/gag/ - General Aviation General

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>>1079271

Gotta love these little gems you find in a maintenance writeup. This is a 172 by the way.

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>>1079379
If its real I'd still be kinda sketchy about it. I remember a CT4 had to make a forced landing in a paddock due to its rudder getting stuck at full deflection coming out of a slow roll. Apparently the pedal had caught on an exposed section of bolt or something to that effect, or so I've heard.

http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/2766698/rudder-problem-caused-flight-incident-near-gunnedah/

http://www.nvi.com.au/story/2341121/photos-aircraft-incident-at-gunnedah/

***Thread Reminder***

Aviation > girls

>>1079413
stop it man, just lead a balanced life and you can have plenty of time for both.

And seriously, how are you not using your pilot's license to haul all the pussy all the time?

>>1079444

>how are you not using your pilot's license to haul all the pussy all the time?

Isn't that just a meme

>>1079450
It's a pretty killer date if there's good airport restaurants nearby. I'm married tho, and I've had to beat women off with a stick after they fly with me.

Wife thinks it's neato too.

>>1079468

Just because you're a pilot doesn't mean you can get girls. It's hard for people like me who don't know any girls. All of my hobbies are male dominated. So I'm never around girls to begin with

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>guys who post pictures of themselves in their pilot uniforms on instagram

Anon from the last thread who couldn't push his plane here. I just flew an hour ago and was able to push it back in without straining too hard. I think the problem was that I was pushing it up instead of back like someone said.

>>1079574
Protip: Taxi into the spot, then shut down. Get out and turn it around in place by pushing down just in front of the vertical stabilizer to lift the nose wheel. Push sideways to spin it around on the mains. No more pushing up a slope.

>>1079589
We have pretty tight spots at my club and angling into spots is explicitly banned because of the close proximity to the club building.

>>1079444
But I'm married to my plane.

>>1079271
>privatization edition
Why? What's being privatized?

>>1079653
Trump is proposing the Privatization of ATC in the USA.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewbender/2017/06/07/can-trump-privatize-americas-air-traffic-control-system/#5799c77b9498

For me, on the one hand I have the attitude of "It ain't broke so don't fix it" but on the other hand it's taking power away from the government so... I guess I'd have to wait and see how it's implemented.

>>1079687
While just about everything could probably be done better and more efficiently than the U.S. Government can, ATC is one of those things that should probably remain in federal hands. It should be renovated as it is currently painfully inefficient, but this privatization isn't gonna solve all the problems.

>>1079688

>ATC is one of those things that should probably remain in federal hands

Why? Its not like Lockheed Martin will have full run of how their controllers operate. They will still be work in accordance with FAA regulations and guidelines. I work as a contractor at a government site. Even tho I work for a private company, we follow the exact same procedures as the federal employees do. It just saves money and issues can be dealt with MUCH faster amongst contractors than within the government

>>1079271
Wont privatization affect alot of small airports that barely get federal funding as it it? Like wouldn't this close them down for good, even if it was inevitable?

It will all come down to whether there are government contracts that fund the ATC, or user fees. if it's user fees, good fucking luck sharing aviation with your kids and grandkids.

>>1079748

no

>>1079768

it'll be a government contact

>>1079772
>it'll be a government contact
I want you to be right, do you have source that I can read to assuage my fears?

>>1079774

no, but that's just how the government works.

I wish I could fly ultralight helicopters in controlled airspace over populated areas.

a few minutes of flying to work vs 30-60 minutes of driving.

>>1079727
All I get is opinions when I try to research it. Will it be one big contract to a company like Lockheed Martin or will it consist of many smaller contracts for the different areas (flight service, ARTCC, TRACON, etc. each with an individual contract)?

>>1079779

probably a variety of contracts desu. It could even be airport authority discretion.

It's similar to TSA. Having TSOs at major airports isn't a requirement. Private companies can preform this task, as long as they follow do it according to set regulations

>>1079781
In that case it'll definitely be more efficient, but coordination will be a challenge

>>1079687
Canada has had private ATC for 30 years now.

>>1079776
What's stopping you

>>1079779
Read up on NAVCANADA. 1 organization that does everything for ATC for Canada. Been around since 1996. Efficient as hell.

Leaf Pilot here.

>>1079880
legal ramifications. it is a little too obvious to try and do it on the sly.

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>>1079882
Picrelated is what concerns me.

With air carriers having 4 times the representation as GA, what's going to happen to GA? Last thing we need is User Fees, it's hard enough to keep new bodies coming in as it is.

This isn't even considering that the Air Carriers and the Unions would have much, MUCH larger sway over those Federal Government seats.

>>1079903
see
>>1079882

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>>1079904

Nothing in that post addresses my concern.

>>1079903
Why do we need more people in GA?

>>1079891
Which part makes it illegal? Get a radio and a transponder, Good to go.

>>1079963

Because GA is the basis of all of Aviation.
You start in a small GA airplane.
If there's no GA, there's no airlines. And the airlines are already having an issue with finding pilots.

Anyone ever been ramp checked before?

What should I expect to pay for flight training? Cost of PPL package vs hourly rate?

>>1080091
A buddy of mine ran a golf cart into a parked T-6 if you count that. We had the night shift on line duty and all us line guys decided to race golf carts to pass the time. Somehow this idiot runs smack into the side of a T-6 and caused $150,000 in damages. Waited until the weekend was over to even say anything. He didn't even get fired

>>1080130
I was talking more about an FAA ramp check

>>1080069
>If there's no GA, there's no airlines
no problem senpai
http://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-studies-planes-without-pilots-plans-experiments-next-year/

>>1080186
Fuck outta here with your unmanned airline garbage. They'd lose business faster than Pontiac

>>1080124

if you have an reason to care, you need to pick another hobby right fucking now.

>>1080257
Bury your head in the sand all you want, but it's and inevitability

>>1080186

the pay off would be 10x cheaper for insurance companies to have actual pilots onboard in case of an emergency.

It all comes down to money in the end

>15 or so hours into flight school
>still absolutely shit at landings
How am I ever going to make it?

>>1080341
>ONLY 15 or so hours into flight school
Relax. 15 hours is not a lot. Practice, chair fly, and experience. Also, heed your instructor's advice.

>>1080346
>Also, heed your instructor's advice
If only that was as easy.

In all seriousness, I think I'm just lacking a proper sight picture, the speeds are slowly getting where they're supposed to be.

>>1080341
A technique that really helped me was to ask myself "am I high, or am I low?" as soon as I started my downwind to base turn, and begin adjusting immediately.

rules of thumb like "I'll have descended about 200' from pattern when I start my base" and "I'll have descended another 200' when I start my final" are helpful too, but not set in stone.

Basically, have an idea of what you want before you're abeam the numbers, and practice recognizing and fixing errors early.

If you are confident your approaches are good, and you're still struggling with the final phases of landing, ask yourself "where should my eyes be?" On final, look down at the runway at a shallow angle, and when you have the runway "made" start looking further down, when you are rounding out and flaring, you should be looking out to the end of the runway. You will develop your ability to perceive your attitude using your forward view, and your height above the ground using your peripheral view. the rest comes down to repetition, "feeling" the airplane and developing muscle memory.

You'll be greasing them on in no time.

>>1080356
Yeah that sounds about right. Thanks.

I know for sure that I always flare too early when shit works out properly with the approach, but that's another problem.

At this point, as silly as it is, I'm just worried the instructor is getting fed up, it's not like we've been doing anything but circuits for ages. Then again it's the most important part so there's that.

>>1080358
It may seem like you've been practicing for ages, but you have had very little practice actually "landing" if you think about it. for every landing, you spend several minutes in the pattern for what amounts to 7 or 8 seconds of real practice developing the muscle memory you need.
You may have 30 touchdowns in your logbook, that's like 3 minutes of actually practicing "weight from wings to wheels"

When was the last time you mastered something in three minutes?

>>1080263
I'm not trying to go bankrupt overnight

>>1080386
Depends on where you're at. Here in Europe it's about 15-20k for the lot.

>>1080337
Haha do you seriously believe airliners will never be fully automated?

>>1080443
do you seriously believe they will?

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Twas a good evening lads

>>1080289
I'll walk before I get on a commercial aircraft with no pilot.

Who /oldillegalplanewithnolicense/ here?

>>1080347

Watch this guys video. Maybe you'll pick up some knowledge you didn't get before. His videos definitely helped me become much more comfortable talking with ATC.

https://youtu.be/6xfbueYvHGo

>>1080573

You were able to push it back! :D

>>1080405
>15-20k
What the fucking fuck that can't be right

There's a highly regarded flight school near me that does a PPL package for $8000 with 50 hours flight time. A shitty flight school at some rinky dinky airport does it for ~$4500 or something and then a friend of mine said he knows someone that would instruct me for about $2600.

Now since these are all grossly varrying costs, I was asking what I should reasonably expect. Should I expect to pay 150 an hour or 35/35(70) an hour for instruction?

>>1080680

not him, but I pay $150/hr

Im paying as I go.

>>1080680
Depends on part 61 or 141 in the U.S., but I'm not sure about anywhere else. I'd imagine in the UK it's pretty pricey.

>>1080680

15-20k would be about right if it's Europe.

got to fly around the july 4th holiday. thinking about getting a big veiny dildo with some balls. going to stuff it in some tight pants and walk through the TSA check point.

>>1080826

You do realize, that when you walk through the body scanner.. it will be flagged as a large, sense, foreign object, and then TSA will alert the Airport Police to observe them search you. When they find its a dildo, you'll possibly get flagged for intentionally slowing down security screening.

The scanner is designed to not pick up body parts. Just foreign materials.

>>1080672
One minute groove length... lol.

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>that first flight of the day

>>1080930
Real men bailout.

>>1080930
oh shit

Hey canadian anons, how much should a PPL cost in or around the GTA area? I'm planning on flying in the bush once I have my CPL. Should I try to get some float and tail wheel time while working on my PPL?

Privatization of ATC

>welcome to big hoss airspace sponsored by coca cola
>turn to a heading of 180 for the home depot approach patern
>hold for traffic
>don't like traffic? upgrade now to premium platinum gold membership for only 2999.99 to jump the queues
>Alpha Bravo one niner four did you just request permission to land? do you agree to the 49.99 clearance fee?

>>1080930
lol enjoy maritime

>>1081135

More like
>Apple in charge of ADSB

Which may or may not be fine because everyone is just using their fucking ipad anyway.

>>1080930
Fuck me man, if I had the vision to be in the Air Force, flying, I would have signed away the next 15 years of my life in a heartbeat.

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>>1080452
absolutely. maybe not in our lifetime, but it will happen within the next 100 years (and that's a very conservative estimate)

I don't understand how alternate minimums work. So obviously, the standard minimums are 600-2 for precision and 800-2 for non-precision. But let's say my alternate airport has an ILS than can go down to 200 AGL and 1/2 vis. It has the inverse A for alternate minimums, and all the requirements for it are met, and lets say the weather there is forecast to be 500-1. Can I legally file it due to the alternate mins for that specific approach?

>>1080930
>200 kt pattern speed
>aerobatics for days
>+7.0 G limit
>ejection seat

What a fun little plane

>>1080598
What's so bad about self-flying planes? A computer:

>Doesn't show up late
>Or drunk
>Or high
>Doesn't fall asleep on the job
>Doesn't suffer a depressive/manic/psychotic episode and crash the plane into the ground
>Doesn't have limitations on flight hours

There is a miniscule chance a bug could cause the plane to blow up in midair or go onto the wrong runway or something but it would still be far safer than accounting for human error and it's not like plane crashes are super common as is.

>>1081144
Hey, this isn't shit any more. We have a new plane that doesn't suck balls.

>>1081321
Think of it like this.

Imagine only the top 0.000001% of skilled drivers in the world. These people have been professional drivers for the last 30 years. Almost all of them have never had any sort of incident at all. They know every nut and bolt on their car and the exact specifications of it. Imagine all of them driving on a circuit. How do you think it will play out? Do you think there would be many accidents? Now imagine a bunch of self driving cars have been added to the circuit. What happens now? The thing about real people vs AI is that real people can account for the unpredictable, AI can't.

All the points you listed rarely ever happen and are so negligable that they aren't even worth saying. Almost 9,000,000 flights in 2015 (~24,000 per day) with 0 deaths in the US alone. Don't fix what's not broken.

>>1081279
If it has the inverse A, it means non-standard alternate minimums apply (so disregard 600/800-2 rule). You would check something like this to see the specific alternate minimums for your alternate: http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1706/SW3ALT.PDF

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>>1081321
Look up United Flight 232, (DC-10) hydraulics on the aircraft were destroyed by a unscheduled deconstruction of the tail engine mid flight. So none of the flight controls worked, but you know what, the pilots crash landed the aircraft, on the airfield, with no controls.185 people out of 279 lived, there was no protocol for this. How would a computer react to this?

>>1081279
The idea behind alternate minimums is that the current weather conditions must be 600-2/800-2 for your specific approach in order to file the airport as an alternate. With non-standard alternate minimums I believe you can use the minimums described on the chart for your specific category.

91.169-c-1-i ("For aircraft other than helicopters: The alternate airport minima specified in that procedure, or if none are specified the following standard approach minima")

>>1081321

you know Uber?

Uber had started doing self-driving cars that would actually pick up passangers. But one got into an accident and some people died. Since then, they pull all of their self driving cars and canceled the program.

>>1081425
link? i haven't heard of any accidents involving fatalities
they likely cancelled the program because they stole some self-driving IP from Google and Google is suing the shit out of them

>>1081374
>>1081370
Alright cool, sounds like I had the right idea then. Thanks anons

>>1081325
The mission still blows cock.

>>1081321
A computer pilot would crash any time it encounters a microburst on takeoff or landing:

>beep boop airspeed too high on final
>reducing power as programmmed
>5 seconds later
>beepity bop altitude is now underground, activating transponder, no signs of life on plane

>>1081481
A computer pilot only makes a mistake once.
After that, the mistake is patched and then no other plane makes that mistake again.
Or you know, recognise that microbursts happen and fix it pre-emptively. I'm not sure why you think computer programs are these static things that can't account for unpredictable but known adverse events.

>>1081482
This post is pure bull crap

>>1081488
Thank you for your critical and well-researched insight.

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>going on vacation to France next week
>Have a ticket for the Paris International Airshow
>excited af
>suppose to rain all fucking weekend of the Airshow


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1081481
Do you really think engineers would forget to take microbursts into account? A computer could probably detect one quicker and better than a human could

>>1081548

If a computer had been flying US Airways 1549, everyone would have died

Some people in this thread have never flown aircraft with proper auto pilot and automation before.
I fly the 737-800 and this is a taste of what I've seen;
>goes into go around thrust at 37,000ft when the captain was briefing the go around procedure into our dest airport (it's not supposed to)
>various modes disconnect for no apparent reason
>autopilot won't engage, again for no apparent reason, after departure
>FMC failures
>on board situations that would be out of the scope of a computer to handle

>>1081581
Most of the time they work fine but from my experience they can be moody

>>1081579
A computer WAS flying 1549, all Sully did was pull back on the yoke and let the FBW work its magic

>>1081605
>I don't know what I'm talking about: the post

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>>1081605

>>1081135
stop fear mongering. Canada has had private ATC for 25 years now.

>>1081548
The irony is it's the computer on our 737 that tells us when Windshear is happening so we can even do the windshear escape procedure. I'm pretty sure the computer would be able to figure it out, calculate a course of action, and perform it faster than I could end the conversation about getting hammered and actually react.

Does anyone have ideas on how to do a proper logbook correction?
I recently reviewed my logbook and put all my flights into a spreadsheet and realized I have done some math errors in the paper logbook. Last thing I want to do however, is screw something up that'd make an airline or the FAA do a double take.

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Can someone redpill me on Spirit Airlines?

>>1082008
Ugh my logbook is a mess too because of an instructor who had me incorrectly log a lot of time. My method has been to cross it out then initial.
Airlinebros: when you present your logbook to an airline in an interview do they review the hard copies? Or can you give them the digital version?

>>1082023

Not an airlinebro yet, actually the guy you were responding to;

I've always heard that They appreciate if you bring in your logbooks along with the electronic copy. Just to show that you're confident in the electronic version that you can back it up with the paper. Also shows good organization that you have the "Official" copy and a copy that people can actually read.

>>1082029
Ahh ok, it all matches, just the first half of the hard copy looks like shit

>>1082008
If its a bunch of little errors I've been told you can make a separate line item at the end of a page and just add or subtract from the totals the required amount, then justify it in the comments area. Discrepancies less than 15-20 hours I wouldn't worry about.

>>1082017
>"Hello anon, welcome to your flight on Spirit airlines from Boston to Mootxico!"
>"Having your boarding pass read will cost $2.00"
>"Walking down the jetway requires a $1.50 service fee"
>"There is a $0.25 cabin door closing and cross checking fee
>"A pressurized cabin fee of $4.95 will be applied to your bill"
>"Bathrooms cost $0.50 per 5 minutes you are in there"
>"Opening your window shade will cost you $1.00"
>"If you would prefer to have a seat instead of standing that will cost you $25.00"
>"Magazines are available to read at $5.00 a piece"
>"Airsickness bags are not included in the price of your ticket"
>"Reclining your seat will incur a $15.00 passenger disruption surcharge"

>>1082008
draw a single line through the incorrect entry, write the correction, and initial.

Whiteout is not advised, it looks like you're trying to hide something. The idea behind the single line is that you can see what is being corrected.

If extensive corrections are necessary, include a note such as "column (a) corrected from (x) to page (y)" and sign it.

For the airlinefags

How hard would it to be to get a job with a Major or Legacy carrier without a college degree?

I've noticed that United Airlines, American Airlines, JetBlue, and Spirit, do not "require" a degree. It's just preferred. For someone with 5 years prior military (non aviation) experience in lieu of college, would that carry any weight?

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>>1079491

Then you'll love this guy. He's a student pilot who likes to wear his uniform in his little warrior. He also likes to pose in front of random jets parked on the ramp

https://www.instagram.com/alsbtani/

>>1082130
Yes military experience is smiled upon. Combine that with the right timing, knowing the right people, being a good "face" and you just might get the job.

But the degree would seal the deal.

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>>1082134

I didn't think it was possible to be this much of a faggot

>>1082141

Oh that's good to hear. I was starting to feel a bit discouraged as if I'd be stuck in the regionals my whole career. But hearing what you said gave me some confidence. Would knowing a foreign language help at all to? I'm learning Italian. I'm all for expanding my education, just not on a degree path.

I tried 1 semester of college several years ago, i have just a few credits. But I have my reasons for not going back.

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>tfw almost done with my PPL

feels good lads

Big solo navigation trip up next

>>1082153

Same here!

I'm finished with all of my XC time and solo time. All I have is 1 night flight, and then refresh training until I'm ready for checkride

>>1082155
>same here
>I have 1 night flight

You do night flying as part of your PPL training?

Where I'm from we learn night flying after getting our PPL as an extra rating.

>>1082163

part of the private pilot requirement is a total of 3 hour night XC, and a total of 10 take off and landings. All I have left to do is the take off and landings

>>1082134
>being such an enormous faggot that you rent a 40 year old piper warrior but stand in front of other peoples' jets and photoshop your watermark on them

Why do ar*bs dress so gaudy?

>>1082142
surprised he didnt put 4 bars on his epaulets

>>1082184
odd

Is that PPL in the US?

I'm taking it in Scandinavia and we have a thing called NQ -> Night Qualification, which allows you to fly VFR at night.

I believe it's about 5 lessons with 1 navigation trip and practising landings all at night.

Can't wait to get it, it really is beautifull to fly at night, I've been dreaming of doing it since I was a kid.

>>1082128
Hah, my early logbook days are covered in crossed out numbers and splotches of whiteout here and there.

>>1082216

Yeah in the US

>>1082218
Are you flying a piper or cessna?

Warrior here

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>>1082134
>wings on table are old WWII USAAF wings
> most pictures of him in a plane on ground the plane isn't even on, judging by the lopsided false horizon
>Says shit like he is an airline pilot, but only can have two people in the back
>Flashy as fuck cloths, but has steam instruments
>"Owns" old ass piper but in front of some dudes jet

This is cancer, we need to stop this

Commercial SEL Checkride done! on to CFI.

It was a bitch to climb that Cessna, with me, my 220 pound Examiner, full fuel, and a 3000ft Density altitude.

>>1082134
The instructors at a school near mine nearly all wear captain epaulettes.
None of them are/were in the airlines.

>>1082216
I did my NQ in the UK under those EASA rules as well.
Flying at night is great but not much use this time of year.

>>1082220

Cessna 172R

Eurobros: in the US we have some pretty nice weather packages like aviationweather.gov and 1800wxbrief.com. What do you guys use for weather planning?

>>1082216
I find it interesting/funny that ICAO prohibits VFR at night. While I understand, there is nothing more fun than zoomin around when it's pitch black out.

>>1082300
it's fun until
>moonless night
>engine sputters
>engine quits
>wat do

>>1082356 remember your ABC's!

A: Airspeed for best glide!
B: Best field for emergency landing, the darkest piece of the ground, or toward the nearest shoreline! Into the wind for touch down!
C: Cockpit flow, fuel select, mixture rich, throttle OPEN or ADJUST, carburetor heat ON, ignition ON or SELECT MAG FOR SMOOTHEST OPERATION, Primer LOCKED! ATTEMPT RESTART!
D: Declare an emergency, get search and rescue moving before you are even on the ground!

common Anon, you should be doing this in your sleep!

>>1082363
Or
Pitch for Vyse
Mixtures, props, trottles FORWARD
FLAPS UP, GEAR UP, IDENTIFY, VERIFY, TROUBLESHOOT! secure that engine!
YOU ARE NOT HELPLESS.

>>1082356
EJECTION HANDLE - PULL

>>1082367
Hey smoke 'em if ya got 'em

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>>1082367
it's the Cirrus way

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>>1082363
>the darkest piece of ground

here anon, just for you, a handy guide of identifying terrain features on a moonless, cloudy night, with a lit instrument panel:

A, C, and D are done by default, though they won't help with knowing where to put it down. don't have a landing light, you won't even know when to flare.
If you

>>1082603
fucking korean basketweaving list
If you avoid flying SEP in specific weather conditions that make it impossible to deadstick safely, you are gravely asking for it, pun intended.

Keep flying cavok and you probably are fine.
Also, nice drill.

>>1082431
also, this.

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>>1079963

Because GA is a fun and valuable skill that more people deserve to participate in.

Besides we don't need to kill what remains of it. It's just intentionally dumbing down society at that point.

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>>1081482
Computers lack the situation awareness, problem solving and decision making skills required of a pilot. The pilot is captain of his ship, and he does more than control the airplane.

>>1082637

If you want to fly join the military.

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>>1082647
> implying the military won't be all drones

what even is the point of life without the things you enjoy? kys.

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>>1082650
Yeah, I really hate what I do.

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>tfw aligned with center of runway
>tfw wing up against the Wind
>tfw still drift off the center line due to crosswind

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Any of you guys know if it is hard to land a job as a bush pilot?

I've got a PPL and done with my post-grad soon.

I don't care where in the World it is, I just want to fly for a year or two and live some adventures.

From what I understand I need a Commercial license first, but does this include IFR rating?

>>1082667
ICAO CPL does not need to include IR.
You can have a CPL with only SEP proficiency.
So for the 15 hour CPL course you can be bushflying in half the world, given you find employment.

>>1082674
Thanks senpai

Do turboprops perform better al altitude than supercharged pistons because their massive power to weight advantage means they can be flat rated to a power output it can keep up well beyond 20 thousand feet?
+That turbines are more efficient at higher speeds.

>>1082654
>he can only gain enjoyment out of killing people

stupid wingnut

>>1082666
>wing up against the wind
Do you mean your upwind wing is going up? There's your problem.

G450 came in today and got totally fucked up by lightning. Punctured a hole in the skin and left some nasty looking burn marks. What happened with planes being lightning proof?

>>1082431
Flew those for training. Man, nothing spoils you worse than a Cirrus.

>>1082954
/gag/gers who fly more modern/glass trainers, what hourly rate are you paying and for what aircraft? i pay like $130~$140 for N and M model 172s in socal and it seems ridiculous

>>1082951
Nothing is lightening proof.

>>1082960
Is that a wet rate?

>>1082960
$150/hr for a 172R (Steam) or S (Glass) model.
$125/hr for a P model.
All wet rates

Honestly, I prefer the steam gauges for VFR flying. Gives me less to look at inside.

>>1082960

$150hr/wet 172R steam

>>1083043

Is it confusing switching between steam and glass?

I've only ever flown steam gauged 172s through my local flight school. But when I go to ATP Flight School this fall to fast track through IR, Com, Multi, CFI, CFII. It's all glass. I've never even sat in a cockpit of aircraft equipped with a G1000 before

>>1083047
It takes about 5 minutes to get used to the different scan.
It takes two, maybe three flights to get used to navigating menus if you're on that sort of equipment. Read the users manuals if they're available.

Once you've flown both, switching between the two is like flying a yolk vs flying a stick, It's just a non issue.

>>1082960
That's par for the course.

>>1083047

Just remember steam gauge 172 flies the same as a glass 172.

But just like >>1083049 said, it'll take a few flights to get used to all the buttonology. I think Garmin has a simulator for a G1000 that you can buy and set up in different situations to practice that.

>>1083049
>>1083052

Sounds simple enough

Found this video: https://youtu.be/j8j8ZI2LJVQ
North Korean aviation seems really interesting

>>1082960
$169 wet

>>1083274

What about this?

https://youtu.be/2nKuoNhihh4

>>1083345
breddy gud

Once I was walking around at an airport and some guy randomly took me up on his plane.

>>1083378
Happens a lot. Flying is meant to be shared.

>>1083378

Did you have sex?

>>1083400
no.

>>1083395
really?

>>1083345
ahaha good shit

>>1083408

That poor airplane...

>>1083408
Is this African airlines.

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>>1083049
>flying a yolk
>mfw

THE ONLY SKILL IT TAKES TO FLY FOR MONEY IS NOT BEING AFRAID OF GETTING UNLUCKY AND DYING

Do the compressors in (for example the Pt6a) turboprops work similarly to a turbo/supercharger found in piston aircrafts and increase/help performance at high altitude?

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I can't wait to see this demonstration on Saturdaaaaaay!!

https://youtu.be/nmefnkTvWIw

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Today's plane of the day

I don't why but I have a sexual attraction to this aircraft. It just looks so beautiful

>>1083727

I saw an episode of airplane repo where they repo'd that same aircraft, and apparantly found a while stash of guns in the back.

Looked fake as shit Tbh

>>1083728

*whole stack

>>1083730

Every single thing on that show is total BS. I have a student who's convinced it's all real and that's all he ever talks about every lesson. Drives me nuts

I watched an episode just to see. The guy takes off at NIGHT with no radios installed in the panel because they were "removed by a disgruntled maintenance guy for payment". He navigates using a car gps. Has an "electrical failure" when they clearly show him flipping the master switch. Then he calls the fbo on the field using his cell phone and yells at the secretary to turn the runway lights on

yeah, I refuse to watch anymore

>>1083738

lol I watch it just because it's entertaining. I was talking to my instructor about it on my last flight and he said "they violate so many FARs that if it was real, they'd have their creds pulled and be in jail"

>>1082364
ZERO SIDESLIP BOY WHATCHU DOIN

>>1082688
Turboprops will always perform better at altitude than a piston, supercharged/turbocharged or not. Superchargers are great for instant power but less efficient that a turbocharger, especially in the high-rpm ranges. Turbochargers are less efficient than turboprops because of their critical altitude limitation, and perhaps intercooler capability. Turboprops will put out plenty of power both at sea level and at altitude, but become more efficient at altitude due to the lower inlet temps. It's not the speeds that make it efficient, it's the low ambient temperature at altitude (efficiency ~ inlet/exhaust temps).

>>1083786
But why does a Westland Wyvern not perform like a Ta-152 at altitude?

>>1083656
Yep. There are two types of compressors, centrifugal and axial compressors. They do the same thing but in a little different manner. The PT6 has both.

The difference comes in when you refer to the mechanism that drives the compressors; in a turbocharger exhaust gas from the cylinder spins a turbine, which spins the compressor. In a turboprop the hot gas from the combustion chamber (defined in the Brayton cycle) drives the turbine, which drives the compressor.

Turbochargers help a piston engine perform better at altitude because it offers forced air induction, allowing the thinner air at altitude to be compressed for better performance (more air +fuel -> more power). The difference is that a turbocharger has a critical altitude, where the wastegate is fully closed, at which point an increase in altitude results in a loss in performance. Turbine engines don't rely on piston exhaust, so they maintain performance at altitude.

>>1083796
*as an example

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Big plane is big

>>1083799
A380s are fat and ugly

>>1083796
Because the Wyvern was a strike aircraft, not an interceptor. The Ta-152 was a dedicated high altitude interceptor, and has both nitrous oxide and methanol-water injection mechanical assists. The Wyvern also weighs literally double the TA-152

>>1083803
But a B-29 has a higher wing loading and worse HP/weight ratio than the Wyvern yet according to wiki it still has a higher service ceiling than the Wyvern.

Is it the airfoil?

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>>1083801

It is pretty fat

>>1083805
The overall parasite area and induced drag will significantly affect the performance, so throwing a bigger engine on a plane with tons of drag won't necessarily solve the performance issues. I don't know the specifics on either the Wyvern or the Ta-152 but I can assure you a turboprop performs better at altitude. The efficiency increases with reduced inlet temperatures, so the engine likes higher altitudes. The propeller likes lower altitudes because they rely on more dense air to generate thrust, which decreases as you climb in altitude. This is why turboprops like mid-level flight regimes (FL180-FL280 or thereabouts). Piston engines rely on more dense air for both combustion and to satisfy the propeller, so they prefer low altitudes. The TA-152 can only perform at altitude because of these nitrous oxide/methanol-water assists, and a fat propeller.

>>1083801
just like ur mum

>>1081618
Honestly I'm now wondering how badly the UK ATC system got fucked up by privatization. Looking at other privatisations by Britain (*cough* railtrack *cough*) i'm left wondering why British Aviation hasn't collapsed entirely.
(It looks like a pretty lukewarm "privatisation" with 49% state owned, 5% staff owned, if we want to be honest.)

>>1082235
>we need to stop this
Why? it's funny

IR-fags how often do you takeoff / land in instrumental conditions?

Here in Europe we just got a thing called "En Route Instrumental Rating", which is an IR rating that allows you to fly instrumental mid-flight but you still need to take off / land VFR.

It costs a fraction of an IR rating and sounds pretty good to be able to fly near clouds or bad visual conditions.

>>1084106
Why go halfway? The real benefit of an instrument rating is that you can land and take off in instrument conditions. It's a no-brainer to follow an airway, especially so if you have a GPS equipped aircraft. If you were so inclined, you could do VFR on top or just cancel IFR after you've taken off from your weathered-in departure airport. But if you need to get the aircraft on the ground in IFR conditions and don't know how to use all of the instruments available, its kind of useless.

>>1084111
It completely eliminates the requirement to visually avoid traffic.

>>1084140
Or you could get VFR flight following and accomplish the same without an additional rating.

>>1084146
Flight following is subject to operational constraints and can be cancelled or denied.

>>1084140
Noooooooooooooooo!
When you are in VMC, you are responsible for maintaining a visual scan, regardless of your contact with ATC and regardless of your clearance!

>>1084160
Well stop being lazy and look outside. If they're not swamped they'll usually give it to you.

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>that second flight of the day

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>when you pass the ifr check first time after failing your ppl the first time

>>1079688
Someone should try to talk Trump into handing it all to DOD instead of privatizing. It's the sort of thing he might actually go for with his pro-military gusto, and military controllers do a perfectly fine job whenever I work with them.
>>1079776
Well, if you built it yourself and it's up to GA standards, you could always try to get an amateur-built airworthiness certificate for it. There's no minimum weight requirement for a GA aircraft.

>>1084460
If there is one thing he is bigger on than the DoD it's private business

>>1084277
Enjoy your 9 month carrier deployments. I'll be over here enjoying per diem.

>>1084535
I love it already

>>1082356
Turn on landing light

if you dont like what you see, turn it off

>>1082017

Choose another carrier.

>Have to transfer money for plane within 3 days of flight
>Have to bring Cash to instructor who never gives a receipt
>15 $ landing fee
>They rage at me when I transfer money after a week instead of 3 days
>Forget landing fee once or twice
>Get raged at

Man I hate this small time mentality

I have the money but fuck it, at least let me get a grasp of air while you're sucking me dry ffs

>>1084277
>the air force still uses the Talon for jet training even though they're aging death traps and MX nightmares

At least you can get multi engine certified lol

>>1084605
>$15 landing fee
What happens if you don't pay it? Do you never land?

>>1084605
Why are you so fucking lazy? People like you don't deserve to fly. I bet you don't even listen to air traffic control, why do they rage at me when I don't do what they tell me to do, I should just land at any open strip available fuck.

>Chief Pilot retired this semester
>Long time CFI of the school, who did my checkride, is also apparently going to retire real soon
>My preferred CFI who I was going to work on for Instrument through Multi commercial also contemplating retirement too

Fuck guys, I feel like my flight school is going to shit. We don't have any instructors as it is

>>1084881

my school has too many instructors. I hardly get any work

>>1084896
Where are you instructing?

>>1084277
what airport?

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>>1084831
>Buy a single flying lesson in a multi-engine jet
>declare your intent not to pay your landing fees at the end of the lesson
>never get permission to land from greedy airport managers
>enjoy 1500hrs high performance jet time and probably some IFR cross-country experience ezpz on the cheap

>>1084896
Same here. doesnt help that i'm an average instructor at best compared to everyone else at my school

>>1084984
You can't run out of fuel if you don't pay for any

>>1084645
Goshawks only recently became ungrounded after several months due to carbon monoxide leaking into the oxygen and causing the pilots to become ill. Talons aren't the only aging death traps

Anyone else tried flying with a single instructor for a long time?

I don't know why but I feel like I perform badly with him.

It started out good but I've flown like 15 lessons in a row with him and now I'm declinning.

He points out a low of errors very often, I just feel kind of anxious flying with him.

Like he is going to point out an error at any moment and it is a kind of self-profiled proficy because I get very nervous and mess up

>>1085188
Yeah, My dad. I've flown with 5 other instructors, And dad is by far the most exacting, most difficult to please, And most professional pilot I've ever flown with. I've been with him from day 1, and am glad I could. The occasion I've flown with other instructors was for tailwheel, seaplane, rental checkout, And checkride prep "second opinion" flights.

He is a difficult man to please, And the consummate professional, and I feel it when I fly with other instructors, they're "too easy"

I also feel like he expects more from me than his typical student, so there's a lot of pressure.

Nothing is "good enough" until it's textbook prefect.

I think it's made me a good pilot.

I think every pilot who desires to fly professionally should strive to fly to the highest standard possibly achievable, And if this instructor can help you get there, good.

If you're flying for pleasure, you may want to fly with someone who will keep you at ease and make sure you're safe.

I have a friend how flies CRJ's for an airline he he doesn't speak too kindl you them. When the autopilot was flying once it just didn't intercept the final approach course on an approach so they had to kick the AP off and hand Flynn it.

>>1085393
riveting tale, chap

>>1085393
>when the system fails I had to do work ;_;
That's what a pilot is there for.

What ways are there for an airline pilot to fly fighter jets without joining the Air Force?

>>1085457
git rich AF

>>1085457
Join the Navy

>>1085457

I was told about some black ops/ high risk/ mercenary schemes...

http://m.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2100242/elderly-flight-passenger-throws-coins-engine-luck-delays-take?utm_content=buffer90c8d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
>chinks

>>1085393
Oh no! Not the dreaded "automation failed so now I have to fly!"

>>1085471
Some 737 pilot flew a Mirage and bombed ISIS for kicks.

http://www.checksix-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=279&t=190143

>>1080601
Nice try, FAA

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>>1082130

4 year degree is basically required at majors/legacies unless they have a flow from one of their wholly owned airlines... so if you don't have a 4 year degree basically go to Envoy, Piedmont or PSA or your'e SOL because there are tens of thousands more qualified people than you who ALSO have 4 year degrees and a decade + at regionals

>>1085457
CIA

>>1085188
I'm flying with a former Marine pilot. He's an older guy and he's strict, but damn if he hasn't made me a better pilot. My first instructor was like 3 years older than me and all her post-flight briefing consisted of was "good job, see ya tomorrow"

I'm definitely sticking with this guy as long as possible.

>>1085237
>>1085913
Yeah you guys are right

He is strict and I definetly learn a lot from each lesson.

I just get nervous before the lesson because I dont want to dissapoint and then end up dropping spaghetti.

I guess I just need to chill out.

>>1085926
You're a student

Your job is to spill your spaghetti and fuck up. That's how you learn and become a better pilot. Don't focus on whether or not you're gonna look bad, focus on your performance and refining your skills. The cockpit is not a place for thinking about mistakes. Think about what the plane's gonna do and what your immediate plans are flying the plane. Do not get stuck thinking about the maneuver you just messed up; the plane keeps flying with or without you.

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Anybody know the name of this aircraft and the era? The owner just finished restoring it and it is immaculate. The interior looks like something straight out of a 1940s movie. Apparently he acquired the plane after it was discovered abandoned and chained to a tree in Africa.

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>>1086043
It's a Grumman Widgeon

>>1085783
hows life at CP?

>>1086043
>>1086047

I want the Gweduck they're working on when I retire and have time to fly places.
http://www.gweduck.com/

>>1085783

Fuck me. So even though Jetblue doesn't "require" a degree, im fucked?

>>1086174
depends how desperate they get in the coming years

>>1086200

Another anon said that having a few years of military experience, even non-aviation, will help. I hope that supplements the degree shit.

>>1086200
Boeing seems to think there's going to be such a massive shortage of pilots in the coming years that they're aggressively developing self-piloting planes in order to meet the future demand for flights. So probably pretty desperate if they're correct.

>>1086206

I hope.

My ideal airline to fly for would be United. I saw on their job postings that a degree isn't listed under Requirements.

>>1086208
Fuck United, fly for Southwest, they're the comfiest airline

>>1086211

eh, I guess I'll put in for them when the time comes. But my order of preference is: United, American, Alaska, Jetblue

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Everyone see the 310 wreck on the 405? Sounds like the pilot was a huge faggot and panicked like a bitch on the radios instead of flying the airplane. Vmc'd into the ground.

Audio starts around 3:30

http://abc7.com/news/small-plane-crashes-on-405-freeway-near-john-wayne-airport/2167965/

>>1085783
What up fellow Compass FO? I'm still laughing at the uber rape email.

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>>1082134
KEK

>>1086243

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>>1084277
wsos r gay

>>1086243
This dude is such a cornball. I'm impressed by how many followers he has though

>>1086288
They're all arabs too. Why are those people so gaudy? Like everything they do is cheesy as fuck.

>>1086290
I think I remember hearing that with their culture respect comes from appearances. Like, people would respect you as a pilot if you look like a pilot.

So they dress up in the full captain's gear where I just toss on a polo and kahki shorts to go fly.

>>1086299

Continued because I thought of a different point

That's also why they send their people to the US to get training because we actually focus on skills

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>>1086301
It's the cringiest shit I've ever seen.

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Sup /n/iggers

Is there any way of doing part-time airline work?

Thinking aloud since the most viable way of digging up an ATPL would seem to be working outside aviation and tossing money from that at the problem, but then one has to wonder whether even after all that taking the pay cut and insecurity of moving over to airline employment full time would be worth it. Half-and-Half solution: Flying on contract or something if really that desperate to fly a big jet without quite paying someone else for the privilege.

>>1086363

>he got his wardrobe at Qaddafi's estate stale

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>>1086365
sup

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When was the last time you flew, /n/?

>tfw at least a month ago
Can't wait for school to start up again, I miss flying every day. Starting IR

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>>1086384
Nice Archer. Florida?

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>>1086508
Yeah.

>tfw the Archer is not even mine, but the school's
>tfw I'm the only person right now in the school that ever bothered checking out in the Archer
>tfw I pretty much have a plane that's always faithfully waiting for me to take her to nice remote airfields

Truly the closest thing to a waifu

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>>1086501
Yesterday I had to get current for my job. Just three take offs and landings but it was the first time I flew solo in months. Felt real nice. Multi checkride on Monday though, I'm fucking pumped

>>1086501
Last Tuesday,

Took my GF Flying for her first time in a GA airplane.

Also had to abort the takeoff about Rotation Speed because the airspeed was indicating 20-30 knots when we were easily at Vr.
First time I've ever had to do that. Tried a second time and the A/S was fine so we went.

>>1086365
CRJ? My sympathies

>>1086523

Post more above the cloud pictures pls

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>>1086501
Over a month ago, work's been busy. Goin' tomorrow, though

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I really want to start taking flight lessons but I don't have a few grand to just drop on a PPL out right. Is it possible (common) to just pay per lesson as I get the money? Say 1-2 hours a week, if that? I work at an FBO next to a flight school and I see the same students there every single day so it had me wondering.

Should I fork out $150 for an intro flight and see what they can do for me?

>>1086666

>Is it possible (common) to just pay per lesson as I get the money? Say 1-2 hours a week, if that?

That's exactly what I'm doing. I pay per lesson, and I typically do one 2 hour flight per week

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>>1086638

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>>1086523
>tfw the last hobbes entry was yours

>>1082145
I'm in the same boat as you. Thinking about just sucking it up and getting an on line degree in some bs major

>>1086501
It's been FIVE. FUCKING. MONTHS. Jumping through hoops for the FAA is infuriating.

Here is some video I took from the Paris Airshow last weekend.

*Sorry for some of the not-so-good camera work. I was really dehydrated, plus it was packed with people, we were almost shoulder to shoulder so people kept bumping into me.

>Dassault Rafale

https://youtu.be/uo5D3UW91fg

>Dassault Falcon

https://youtu.be/3OT6il1bpek

>Dassault Alpha Jet/Patrouille de France

https://youtu.be/KQ5SvfigvDo

>Airbus A380

https://youtu.be/IooPq1qI0gY

>USAF F-35

https://youtu.be/i-qivMMzMnc

>>1086738
I know how you feel anon. I'm still waiting on the FAA to get back to me on my vision issues. It's been 5 months as well.

Meanwhile, I'm still shelling out $7k for my instrument rating, not even knowing if I'll get my first class medical.

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How good does vision need to be for various pilot jobs? I'm thinking commercial or maybe joining my states national guard if they can guarantee me a pilot slot. Problem is, I have terrible vision. Every optometrist I've talked to said it could be corrected to 20/20 with corrective surgery. An Army recruiter said they were ok with corrected vision for helo pilots, but after four years in the military I know not to trust them. How do airlines feel about corrective surgery? Other branches? Thanks.

>>1086899
Airlines don't care if you wear glasses, brah.

CRJ or E-jet?

>>1086910
Thanks. Do they care about corrective surgery? I should ad I want to get it anyways for general quality of life, cuz no shit, I look like Bubbles. I just don't want to box myself out of opportunities down the road.

>>1086929
Why bother with the surgery? Glasses are great and ladies love them. They bring distinction and sophistication.

>>1086950

As someone who is considering corrective surgery:

-Glasses are a bit lacking in the peripherals
-they add another failure point (glasses break while on the job, suddenly can't fly)
-Removes "Must Wear Corrective Lenses" on medical
-Buying glasses and/or contacts over 40+ years gets expensive to the point where it might be more economical to spend that money on corrective surgery.

My $0.02

>>1087008
You should get the surgery but still wear glasses anyways because glasses are cute

>>1086950

Yeah, and tattoos mean you're a rebel...

Faggot. Everyone has both these days. Hell, hipsters wear glasses without lenses.

Just fuck right off.

I wear glasses because my eyes are pretty fucked; -5.5sph in both eye. I would have jumped on the corrective surgery train if I wasn't so worried about the possibility of halos.

>>1087008
Fuck contacts. If you're going to do them you might as well get the surgery.

Glasses almost never break, you can keep an extra pair, and as you get older your prescription doesn't change much year to year. I normally go two to three years between getting new lenses and frames.

>>1087034
Yeah, that's why I won't get corrective. That and the possibility of a botched correcting, somehow making my vision worse.

>>1087008
Glasses really aren't that expensive if you buy online. An eye exam is like $50 and takes maybe half an hour. I bought my glasses from zenni for like $20.

Eye surgery is $2000 per eye or something like that. If you spent $100 per year on glasses, it would take exactly 40 years before the break even point for surgery. I personally don't spend that much annually on glasses.

>>1086898
>>1086738

While it's not the FAA that's cucking me I'm still getting anal blasted currently.

I was in contact with them about a month before my CFI ride and they told me to email them back when I got it. The day I passed my ride I emailed them. Then it took them a while to get back to me, then it took over a week to schedule an interview and then they pushed the interview back two weeks.
After the interview I took a written test for the hiring process just a couple days after the interview. After passing that I was able to fly as a portion of the interview with them. That went well (last Wednesday). The guy I flew with told me he would recommend me for hire and I might even get a call the same day and we could move forward with more training on their aircraft and learning their exact procedures.

From my initial contact with them I was informed that the hiring process was three parts; interview, test, flight.

Now I never actually got a call but they did email me yesterday morning telling me I had to fill out their online application and that if I was approved after that and selected as the FINAL CANDIDATE I would get an offer.


What an absolute shot show this has been. I have spent the last month and a half out of work and these cpeople have been making it seem like it's been a sure thing the entire fucking time I've gone through this process and I have no idea what to think.

>>1086501
Well guys, OP here. I went flying today, just touch and go's, and like a fucking idiot I got a possible pilot deviation for landing on the wrong parallel runway.

Fuck me, I'm stupid.

>>1087256
Oh fuck, man. That blows.

>>1087256
at least it wasnt a taxiway

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>>1087286
Luckily I didn't endanger anyone, as the aircraft holding short was still doing their runup. I did 3-4 more laps in the pattern after that without any incident which hopefully helps my case when the FSDO calls, but man I'm so disappointed.

I didn't even make such big mistakes when I was a student pilot. Goes to show you never stop learning

>>1087290
I took my multi checkride today and turned an ILS into a localizer because i was too fixated on power settings. I was sure i failed it but barely scraped by with the rest. I too am disappointed with myself

Will speaking a foreign language carry any weight while applying for pilot slot with an airline?

Anytime I've ever traveled internationally, the captain always speaks to the passengers in both English and the local language. So, if I spoke Italian, i guess it would be looked at positively?

>>1082142
>Doesn't even lift
How does this nigga even operate the controls on his beaten up old warrior?

>>1082235
The tea and cake addition is just embarrassing. The guy probably has autism man, I can't fault a guy for loving the image of being an airline pilot.

>>1083727
Watch out for the stall nose-pusher, can fuck your shit up on landing.

>>1085783
>requiring a degree to fly planes
Airlines are such faggots, honestly.

>>1086047
>>1086043
I would murder to own a Widgeon, it is basically my perfect aircraft.

>>1086243
>I can't pick up girls because I'm a weedy Arab come flying then maybe you zuc my dic?

>>1087404

Small-airport hos are definitely a thing.
They're just... not people that you would let near the penis of your worst enemy. Or maybe you would, idk.

Point is, motorcycles are a FUCKING lot cheaper and attract a broader range of ho. Better off keeping a bike in a hangar next to some rusted the fuck out Piper Cub. No point in spending $300 of avgas on a ten cent handy.

>>1087408
>10 cent handy
Hello grandpa

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Sup /n/imble /n/avigators

Is it ok to make mistakes on the private pilot checkride as long as your correct for it?

I'm not a perfect pilot. But I am 100% confident that everything I do is safe. I'm just worried that I'll forget something small or not do a maneuver perfectly and get fucked over. I'm a nervous test taker

>>1087902
Yes, at the examiners discretion.

example: If you are flying on a thermally active day and wander through your 100' tolerance on steep turns, the examiner will look to see if you are aware of the deviation and are actively applying the appropriate correction. if you are, the examiner can chock the deviation up to "less than ideal weather" and move on. If it's clear that the applicant is NOT at least attempting the corrective measures, the plicant will still get an unsat

>>1087922

Ok, so the biggest thing is as long as I correct my mistakes, I should be ok?

Within limits.

>>1087927

That seems fair enough

>>1086899
Air force accepts 20/200 corrected to 20/20. They generally frown upon corrective surgery but it depends.

>>1087254
This guy again.

So I'm going on with the hiring process to start training to instruct for this flight school.

They said that I get 3 flight hours per plane to get good to go in and then after that if they don't think I'm ready they'll charge me for the time.

Is this normal among flight schools?

Also I don't think theyre planning on paying me for my training time either and I don't think that that's normal/okay bunk could be wrong there also.

I've already done a flight with them during the interview so they know I'm a fine pilot and Im not too worried about the three hour limit it just kind of rubs me the wrong way.


I don't know if I'm being weird about this or if this is fucked someone. Anyone else's experiences with getting a job as a CFI would be greatly appreciated.

>>1088275
Hey, an airplane is an airplane. Just start teaching.

>>1088275
That sounds shitty.

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Weather cancellation.. again..

>>1088275

I couldn't imagine a situation where it would take you more than 3 flight hours to get checked out in an airplane honestly.

>>1088365
especially if you're an instructor. Do a couple steep tuns, stall it power on and power off, do an accelerated stall, maybe a couple slips and an emergency descent to see how fast you can get it down, good to go. an airplane is an airplane.

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>>1088421
new bread

I just received my commercial license with about 250 hours. I sent out resumes to aerial mapping companies, and the skydive season will be ending soon in New England. Does anybody have any suggestions for places I should apply with low-times? Trying to avoid the CFI route but it looks like I might have to. Would I be a more attractive hire with a Multi-Engine Commercial?

>>1088708
>Trying to avoid the CFI route
Same here.

>>1089094
I applied to a few Aerial Survey companies. Had a pretty good interview with one today. Gonna suck going from $80k/yr to $24k/yr. Oh well, getting hours at least