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>>1088421

Faggot edition

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>JFK International Terminal 4

Wow. So he just travels through the airport dressed like that?

Question

So I know not all Class D airports have radar services in their towers. But, if they have the capability to tell what freq your transponder is squawking, then they must have radar, right?

>>1088996

Yes, they have SSR if they can see that. They may not have PSR though, which would be required for some things.

Looks like a slim Qaddafi.

>>1089113

For the longest time I didn't think that airport had radar. But I was just thinking about it the other day, and remembered a few times where they requested I change my transponder code.

if you're interested, the airport I'm talking about is KCHO.

>>1088421

This guy is beyond gay.

>>1088421

this guy doesn't realize that pilots are literally glamorized bus drivers... or maybe bus drivers are held in extremely high regard where he's from...

>>1089217
Flying a plane is a lot more involved than driving a bus

>>1089227
as an airline pilot, I disagree

>>1089227
That's true, but the basic function is the same. It's an administrative task when it comes down to it. Move from point to point with as little excitement as possible.

Pilots are highly trained, manage more possible outcomes, make more critical decisions, and operate complex equipment, and so we're paid better (citation needed), and there is more esteem that comes with the job, but it's only out of necessity. If the powers that be had their druthers, airplanes would just be bigger faster buses, romance of flying be damned.

>>1089238
Pilots are notorious users of understatement, and it's easy to take for granted everything that's led up to being an experienced pilot, one to whom flying is second nature.

It is pretty easy for a pilot to fly an airliner, and that's how it should be... but it's definitely uncommon ability when compared to driving, if only because flying airplanes is so inaccessible (compared to learning to drive).

What's the deal with all the smug bastards with fancy SR-22s, Skylanes, Bonanzas and other premium singles on YouTube talking about how much cheaper it is to own than rent?

How can you possibly beat a club rental? For-profit rentals I get, but you have to pay the same for avgas, annuals, overhauls, etc. as the clubs, and on top of it you have to do all the red tape and deal with unexpected costs yourself. The only advantage I see is that you get to hog the plane for longer trips, but on the flip side it's going to spend all the more time sitting around depreciating in some hangar.

>>1089583
Owning is better, If not cheaper, Especially if you buy a well maintained airplane.

I fly a lot, whenever I want, never have to worry about some dodo and their grubby fingers on my bird, I know how the engine is treated because I'm the only one who touches It, I pay only for what I use, and I fly enough that a club would bee an annoyance. What "red tape" are you talking about?

>>1089583
>>1089602
Also i get to put my own stuff in the hangar, So it's not like the hangar fee is JUST for the airplane. I have all my tools, my office, my motorcycle, my bikes, my snacks, coffee maker, my own little home away from home, and at the center of it all is MY airplane. It's like "why have a wife when you can just see an escort hur dur"

>>1089583
If you have an interest only loan, It's cheaper but then the bank actually owns the airplane you "own"

>>1089610

You can get in interest only loan for an airplane? Never heard of that option.

>>1089602
>>1089606
True, one of the things that attracted me to GA was the ability to decide over Saturday breakfast that I want to spend the week-end in an entirely different city with friends or family that would have otherwise taken the entire day driving or being groped by airport security to see. But that's not really viable with club flying, a few week-ends like that and you'll quickly become the club pariah. Also I'd probably have to be IFR rated and be based on a field with ILS in order to get back at work on Monday with some certainty, an extra expense and headache.

But even then, a €154/h rental fee at the nearest club (which I doubt I can beat by owning) is already discouraging. On the other hand, if put a moratorium on getting other toys I can hack it. Other people spend that kind of money on boats and motorcycles.

>>1089610
I don't like that because then the bank owns not only the plane but also your ass. But maybe leasing is an option. Same thing but lower risk. Although there's no such thing as a free lunch, the leasing company won't take all that risk in exchange for nothing.

>>1088635
lol are there any laws against impersonating a pilot?

>>1089728
He is a pilot, just not the airline pilot he tries to make himself out to be.

>>1089602
>>1089606
May I ask what you own and what your level of license is?

I've been looking at a few options for ownership:

1. Getting an old shitplane like a Piper Tomahawk which I can pay cash for. I find the Tomahawk charming because I got my license in one, and it's a multirole plane, but not exactly great in any role either. And I wouldn't dream of taking it into IMC should I decide to get instrument rated.

2. Cub or equivalent for local messing around and bush flying. A bit more expensive, not great for cross country, but lovely for local trips in the summer.

3. Something cross country IFR capable. The most expensive option, but best suited for the kind of flying I want to do. Although I've seen a lot of suspiciously cheap Socata TB-10 and TB-20s from the 80s and 90s for sale. I've flown a TB-10 once and it seemed like a great plane, I wonder what the catch is.

Kit building is also an option, but I am skeptical of whether I can stay motivated. I suppose it's a great way to get a better plane for less money, at the cost of time and labour. I can even save money by doing my own maintenance, but that's yet another big chore. Maybe it's better to do something I'm actually good at as a day job and use that money for flying.

I wish I could use my job as an excuse for flying, but in software development the sane choice is usually to telecommute.

>work as a lineman at an executive airport somewhere in florida
>made nearly $500 in tips during an 8 hour shift
Even though I make $10 an hour I make more monthtly than my all my friends who have real jobs. Best part was a Falcon pilot offering to allow me to accompany him on a maintenance flight an back

I love my job

What's the difference between privately registering an aircraft versus setting up an LLC or similar to register an aircraft? Half the airplanes I see come through are registered in Wilmington, DE under company names like BYE FLY LLC or LASTNAME AIR LLC.

>>1089904
LLCs give you less liability if something bad happens. That's as much as I know

>>1089720
>€
There's your problem

>>1089946
Yes, this whole continent pisses me off to no end. 100LL is taxed to high heaven and for what? A bunch of tree hugging bullshit and cultural enrichment!

Speaking if which, do anyone here have any experiences with diesel engines? Running on Jet A1 or better yet, automotive diesel sounds very attractive.

>>1089950
>A bunch of tree hugging bullshit and cultural enrichment!

Whoops, friend! Looks like you're on the wrong board. Let me help you out.

>>>/pol/

>>1089954
>Muh pol boogeyman
Fuck off.

>>1089992
No u.

Applied for a CSR position at a major FBO. Anyone worked in a similar position? I'm a little worried since I don't have any direct customer service experience, but I think I can do a decent job.

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>>1089950
Diesel engines are great unless you live somewhere that gets quite cold. I got my commercial multi in a DA42NG, sporting two Austro AE300 turbo-normalized diesel engines, pic related. Performance was great; the thing burned something 13 GPH total at 75%. GA aircraft that burn Jet-A aren't very common, but I have a feeling they'll become more popular.

>>1089954
Well he isn't wrong, treehuggers didn't like the fact that lead was in the fuel so they tried to ban it. When it wasn't banned they decided to tax it heavily. It's more expensive than Jet-A in many places now, so I think it's gradually on the way out.

>>1090028
>treehuggers didn't like the fact that lead was in the fuel so they tried to ban it. When it wasn't banned they decided to tax it heavily

You say that like it's a bad thing, we should be encouraging more efficient fuels

>>1090016
Don't be a dodo. Be charming, be a good conversationalist, and have a good attitude.

Now, as to what makes a good CSR...
Write down EVERYTHING. If it's operational, WRITE IT DOWN. Get ALL the information about a guests stay and the line service will love you. (services requested, length of stay, aircraft type, number of pax, EVERYTHING.)
If you meet a brand new customer, write it down.
If a plane left late, write it down.
If you have a base tenant flying out for a long weekend, write it down.
If your customer is expecting catering, write it down.
If you learn he prefers diet coke to coke zero, write it down. If they have kids, know them by name and ask after them. Ask "how's your wife Sharon?"
The customer is paying for an experience, Not a service. This is especially true at high dollar places like private aviation. Make their day!

And THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

KEEP. THE COFFEE. FRESH.

FRESH HOT COFFEE IS AS IMPORTANT AS JET FUEL.

>>1090032
wew lad

kys

>>1090054
>daddy, why can't I go outside today
>because sweetie, it's 200F outside today and the air quality is too poor to breathe
>daddy i'm so hungry
>i'm sorry pumpkin, there's just not enough food anymore
>but whyyyyyyyy
>100LL was fucking worth it damn it

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Saw this at the airport today. I had no idea that "Safe Air One" was even a thing.

>>1090079

>Even considering bringing a daughter into this world
>Ever

What the actual FUCK is wrong with you?

There are "people" like
>>1090028
and
>>1090054

in this dumpster fire. They are the MAJORITY.

And you know what? If you would subject your own children to them, you are even worse than they are.

>>1090032
I didn't say I was for or against it, I quite like the idea of diesel-powered aircraft.

>>1090104
Wat

>>1090032
>treehuggers didn't like the fact that lead was in the fuel
oh yes, those treehuggers, always with their agenda, trying to make sure you live a long, healthy life where you don't breathe in fucking lead every day.

>>1090032
>You say that like it's a bad thing, we should be encouraging more efficient fuels

100LL is the more efficient fuel for this particular application. Cars aren't subjected to anywhere near the same pressure and temperature ranges, and their engines are loaded for only brief periods of time during acceleration, whereas aircraft engines are heavily loaded throughout the flight. And finally, if a car engine quits, all you have to do is pull over. Not so with planes. These are people's lives we're talking about.

If there's a more efficient fuel than that I'm all for it, and there is no shortage of research into unleaded alternatives, but please, nothing that will ruin my valves and bearings, cause vapour locks, turn to gel in the lines, or keep water from settling at the bottom to be drained.

>>1090079
>>1090115
I get it, a billion cars burning highly leaded fuel is a bad thing, but that's not what we're talking about. Try to keep things in proportion.

>>1090130
Every little bit counts

>>1089238
>fully loaded bus wrecks on a highway
Some property damage, a few minor injuries, most passengers walk away from it

>fully loaded jet crashes on takeoff
Everyone dies

>>1090170

https://youtu.be/coIPtgewIYA

They all lived

Anyone from the Portland area? I'll be visiting for about a week so I'd like to go up with a CFi and my girlfriend just to fly somewhere other than central Illinois. Any recommendations on who to contact?

What do you guys pay for avgas?

100LL costs me $3.20 a gallon.

>>1090263

$5.45/gallon for 100LL here

>>1090170
not true. Airline accidents are statistically very survivable.

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>>1090263
I work at the FBO so I get it for super cheap, But if I didn't it would be $5.10

>>1090131
As Al Gore flies his private jet to and from his mansions right on the coast then goes for a joy ride in his hummer.

>>1090256
Not from Portland, but I would head over to Hillsboro...you should be able to find something there

>>1090263
$10 per gallon

t. "hurr gb2 /pol/" yuropoor

>>1090290
But /pol/ and /pol/men are always welcome here.

As the messanger once said, "We must fly the planes to ensure a future for aviation and cheap 100LL."

imagine how much different general aviation would be. IF the US military still sold off surplus airplanes. instead of parking them in a boneyard to be used as spares or eventually turned into soda cans.

you could be flying a surplus F-4 Phantom right now.

>>1090288
Nice strawman

>>1090325
Nothing stops you from buying and flying your own L-29 right now.

Except of course if the cost and complexity is too great, in which case I don't see how an F-4 Phantom would be any better.

>>1090346
Surplus airplanes after ww2 and Korea were sold for 1 to 14 dollars.

Surplus c47s were the workhorse of small airlines all over the world for decades

A Phantom bought for pennies on the dollar would have been affordable. Even main, because you can buy spare parts for next to nothing. All those surplus fighters in flight would have ensured a healthy sized pool of mechanics.

So I have 2 years of GI Bill left after finishing my business degree, how much hours/certs could I get in those 2 years? Just 14 hours payed for myself so far because lol poorfag. Is it a meme that there's relatively accessible low-hour jobs in Southeast Asia and the like?

>>1090399

Well, the GI Bill will only pay for your Multi-Engine, Commercial, and type ratings. and at a $12,000/yr rate.

I'm going to be doing ATP Flight School this coming fall. I talked to the VA and they told me that the max they would give me is $12,000, since the entire course is only 6 months long.

>>1090422
Ah I've been considering ATP too, thanks m8. I'm also looking into places that make it into an associate's degree, apparently that's a way to get a bit more covered, heard anything about that?

>>1090424

I have heard of some schools who offer a flight program that can help.

https://www.afa.edu/pilot-programs/college-degree/

This school is VA approved. So it would probably be better for what you want. With ATP, it'll be reimbursements, which ill manually have to fill out and submit every month on my own.

>>1090340
Nope, not the least bit suspicious that the guy who pushed 'global warming' doesn't play by his own rules.

>>1090429
It's not just one guy though, it's most scientists That's like saying "I'm supposed to believe gravity is real, but this Elon Musk guy, he shoots rockets into space!"

>>1090431

>I'm supposed to believe gravity is real, but this Elon Musk guy, he shoots rockets into space!"

Not a good example Tbh. Because shooting rockets into space definitely proves gravity is real. Everything that goes up must come down. So if that rocket engine stops working... that thing is coming down

>>1090433
It's the same specious reasoning that climate deniers use to say 'well there was snow today so therefore the Earth is fine". It only holds up in a very superficial surface level way but falls apart if you look at it closer.

>>1090435
So the guys pushing green energy and making your 'carbon footprint' smaller doing the absolute exact opposite of what they're preaching means nothing?

>>1090427
Wow, I'm Floridian so this place seems great, thanks a lot bro, and see you up there.

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Do you guys recommend flying with A1 fuel instead of 100LL avgas?

My club has 3 piper warrioers, two of which are avgas and one of which is A1.

From what I know you only pay for airborne time in the A1, which makes it cheaper.

It is 200$ per 60 minutes of airborne flight while avgas pipers are 208$ per targo-hour.

Are there any other benefits with A1 engine compared to Avgas?

Also; any of you guys tried using Skydemon on tablet while flying?

Heard it's pretty neat.

>>1090369
The FAA probably doesn't want to deal with hundreds of privately owned supersonic fighter jets dicking around in their airspace

So, I don't have issues talking to the Tower at all. I've flown to several Class D airports, and my local Call E airport currently had a temporary tower. So I'm used to talking to the tower. But I was just listening to some class C Tower communications on LiveATC.. they speak so fast.. any advice for me? I'll be moving to Florida in a few months and will be attending ATP at KDAB. Seems busy

>>1090563

Keep listening to those Class C streams. Try and pick one aircraft and follow it in your head for a while. That way you can get used to the pace without worrying about fucking it up.

As for when you actually start flying; Just relax and take a breath. It's the same system you're used to just sped up a bit. Controllers are people too and they won't fault you for asking "Say Again."

If there's a question to any clearance, the smart choice is to not change anything until you get clarification (not crossing a runway you're not sure you were cleared for, not proceeding closer to the airport, etc). You're the pilot in command, not the controller on the ground.

Know what you're going to say before you hit transmit. I know you've already been taught that probably, but in a busier environment it becomes more important.

You'll get the hang of it after a few flights.

>>1090563
Just do your best to be clear and concise, and always ask for clarification if you're unsure of the instructions. No guessing. KDAB is also the larger of the two airports that Embry-Riddle conducts flight training operations at, so I'm sure they are used to new students fuckin up on the comms.

>>1090573

Ok I'll continue to listen in, and I'll remember to be prepared before transmitting.

>>1090586

Unfortunately, a lot of the voices I heard on LiveATC were Chinese students. I courd barery understand what rey were raying

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>>1090369
>A Phantom bought for pennies on the dollar would have been affordable.

Affordable in terms of parts, maintenance, annuals, insurance, fuel, training, etc.?

>>1090505
I don't see why the FAA would care about hundreds of planes of any kind as long as they and their pilots follow the FARs.

Private individuals do own and fly L-29s on their PPLs, but it's obviously not for everyone because of the operating cost and complexity. I'd imagine the F-4 would be a few magnitudes greater.

>>1090563
KDAB gets so saturated I've had to circle outside the C while I try to get a word in and get acknowledged. Not common, but it happens. Some times when it's busy it seems they could really use more frequencies and controllers.

Oh yeah, here's a little trick to getting them to acknowledge your tail number and consequently allow you to enter the charlie: ask for a radio check. they have to respond. It's kind of a dirty trick to pull on a swamped controller, but it'll get you into the charlie when it's saturated.

technically they could tell you to remain clear of the charlie if they have the presence of mind, but i've not had them tell me that yet.

>>1090594
>KDAB gets so saturated I've had to circle outside the C while I try to get a word in and get acknowledged.

Wew

>Oh yeah, here's a little trick to getting them to acknowledge your tail number and consequently allow you to enter the charlie: ask for a radio check. they have to respond

Lol

>>1090594
>ask for a radio check. they have to respond.
Cheap tricks man.

>>1090563
As others said, know what you want to say before you key the mic and review the standard phraseology

Also, start practicing a shorthand for writing down instructions/clearances quickly and accurately

>>1090438
Could ask you the same thing about the people pushing green energy and putting their money where their mouth is. Tons of large companies are making efforts to switch to renewable energy but that doesn't fit your "hurr durr libtards are stupid hypocrites" narrative you're trying to push

>>1090594
Cheeky

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I'll be taking my private pilot checkride before the end of next month

>>1090616
Yes, 'switching.' While getting massively subsidized by the government. While still receiving the majority of their energy from coal and oil, neither of which are ever going anywhere.

>>1090701
If you've been relatively consistent up to now then any checkride will be among the easiest flights you do. Just be confident with your decisions and conservative with your flying. You can ALWAYS go around.

>>1090720

I feel like I've been consistent. When we fly, my instructor barely has to tell me anything. Usually just very minor things to do. Like last night, we did 10 take off and landing at night. I couldn't believe it, but those were the smoothest landings I've ever done. My instructor just sat back and talked about gossip he's heard about different regional airlines

>>1090718
Okay, whatever you say man. Good luck when coal runs out.

honestly nuclear power shits all over any sort of alternative or coal/oil based energy

>b-but muh chernobyl

sad

>>1090774
They're not very good in planes though.

>>1090774
Nuclear plants have gotten a LOT safer since that happened, they're basically guaranteed to not melt down now. But people still act like chickens with their heads cut off whenever nuclear power comes up.

>>1090775
Nuclear powered planes when?

>>1090777
That's not to mention that: A. It was a powerplant built by the Soviet Union in the Ukraine in the 70s so safety and construction standards were fuck-all, and the meltdown occured not because the reactor spontaneously exploded but because some Communist part jackass who had already been involved in a reactor meltdown decided to push the maximum limits on the reactor.

But yeah, fuck coal, fuck oil, fuck windmills, where my plutonium at??

>>1090763
See you next millennium.

>>1090847
Just because it won't be your problem or your kids' problem doesn't mean it won't be somebody's problem, bur whatever, keep kicking the can down the road. I'm with >>1090845 nuclear is a better solution

>>1090845
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_NB-36H

BECAUSE AMERICA THATS WHY

I don't know how I feel about Nuclear aircraft.

>>1090856
Not a good idea.

>>1090433
>Because shooting rockets into space definitely proves gravity is real. Everything that goes up must come down. So if that rocket engine stops working... that thing is coming down

Ah yes, almost word for word definition from the Principia Mathematica.

>>1090890
On the other hand, it's a really good impression of a Trump speech

read thru this entire thread and have nothing to add, only managed to get a little dumber.

currently sitting in a hotel room for the 2nd week in a row. today was sim session #5 on my way to #8 and my 2nd type rating, this one in the phenom 100. other is CE-525S, cessna citation CJ series.

hi all

>>1091088

Post pictures

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question for the Airline guys

I've been really confused how the whole crew base thing works.

so, with this route map. If a pilot working on the United Express side is crew based at Newark. Will ALL of his flights be to Newark only destinations? So will he only fly the routes shown from Newark? Or i heard something about pilots taking 3-4 day trips where they depart their crew base, bounce around all over for several days, and then return to his crew base which ends that trip?

>>1091094
Yes.

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I need some advice, I'm looking to become a pilot.

To preface, I'm 24 years old with no post secondary education. I've been a working actor for 5 years, getting walk-on roles here and there and padding my income with background work. It's a living, but if I have to spend another 10 years doing this and hoping for my big break I'm going to shoot myself.

So I figure I take my money and stop buying anime figures, magic cards, antique watches, and whatever other garbage I spend money on, and put it into an education in aviation. Most places rent their aircraft for $200 an hour, instructors are another $75 an hour, and if you want a commercial license you need 200 hours minimum, more like 500 hours to actually work. Helicopters, which I am more interested in, are more like 300 an hour without the instructor.


Flight schools bundle all this plus your exam fees and whatnot for something like 60 grand. My hope is to skip this process, do "ground school" by studying on my own, take out a loan and buy a plane.

To my peers, this sounds insane. I would be taking out something like 30k to buy a small plane, and theoretically get my 200 hours in 5 weeks. Insurance and hangar cost would be minimal assuming I only keep it for a month or two, I just have to worry about operation costs, should be doable since I can keep my regular job going during this time. At the end of the process, I sell the plane and have basically cut 40-50k off what most people are paying for their license.

At 200 hours, you have to beg for what is essentially intern work until you get 500 hours total. From there you get shitty backwoods jobs until you get 1500 hours like 5 years from now and can start working for a reasonable wage. I figure if I do keep the plane, I could try to use it to fly people around while gaining hours, but.. the loan wouldn't be paid off fast enough, and I wouldn't make enough to pay off maintenance and operation costs. If the plan works, it feels like a steal. Am I delusional?

>>1091291
Try it. It will take longer than you think, and you will need 250 hours to get your commercial doing it this way, but this is doable.

Count on flying not more than 4 hours a day starting out, you need time to adjust and learn the environment, more than 4 hours a day will be like beating your head against a wall.

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Flew from RCM to MKC last friday. Got a couple of pictures and videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABZQwFY36nI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ejF1kkEBxE

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I would kill to fly this...

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the guy flying this, is making less than someone working full time at burger king.

really activates your tiny packet of in flight snack almonds.

>>1091316
when was the last time an airplane with the comair name was even flying

>>1090032
>>1090079
Banning 100LL would ground a bunch of historic aircraft permanently.

What they could have easily done is discontinue the certification of engines using 100LL. What you would see is a precipitous drop-off in it's commercial use.

But they didn't try that because they're a bunch of anti-aviation cucks who can only think in 2 terms: BAN and TAX.

>>1091328
>What they could have easily done is discontinue the certification of engines using 100LL

Okay, I'll admit, that is a good idea

>>1091316
Why are pilots paid so little?

>>1091312
Well, you have your target. Jack Davenport. Good luck.

>>1091332
Supply and demand. The demand for pilots is low, the supply is high. Prices go down.

>>1091306
How much can I expect to pay for operation costs on a cessna 150? I imagine I'll be landing and taking off a hell of a lot. I'm worried in my 250 hours somethig will break down. I've always been told to buy cars as new as possible, so do buy a 60 year old plane that'll do worse than just stall on the highway if it breaks down, I'm a bit reluctant. I guess most schools use these old things though?

>>1091355
>$50/hr fuel
>$5000-10000 for 100 and 200 hour maintenance
>couple grand for 50 hour maintenance
>stupid high insurance for low-hour student pilot

You can probably recoup some of these costs by renting it out to others cheaper than the schools. Rent it dry and have them pay for their own fuel. Private aircraft can be rented for profit without any commercial registration.

You can also bring down fuel costs a bit by getting a plane with a STC for MoGas (car fuel) so you don't need to pay out the ass for 100LL.

Is instrumental rating hard compared to PPL lads?

Is the hardest part ILS landings?

I've seen on IFR charts there are specific routes you must follow, is it correct that you can't choose your own path when flying from A to B but have to follow certain " highways "?

I know that in a lot of enroute airspaces IFR trafic is directed by ATC while VFR just get information service

>>1091357
I'm trying to get the oldest, shittiest thing I can for under 30k, hoping that it will survive long enough to get my CPL and sell off to some other poor sod before it breaks down. I knew helo maintenance would be a nightmare but was hoping a cessna or something might be on the cheaper end.

There's really not much of a way around the cash-barrier to this career is there? shoulda bin' smarter in school i guess

>>1091362
the holds are the hardest

>>1091362
The hardest part for me is remembering all the regs. But once you get it, flying cross country IFR is way easier IMO

>>1091334
>The demand for pilots is low
HOL UP

>>1091291
I think you're plan is quite ambitious, and will end with maybe a private pilots license, a lot of wasted time, and a big fucking hole in your pocket.

>>1091334
No, it's because they can get away with it. The majors will only accept those with good records and a fair amount of time, and the only way to get that is through the regionals. Pilots will suck it up and accept the pay because they all want a spot in the majors. They take advantage of the low-time regional pilots because they'll work for little pay and they're easy to replace if not. Its a well known fact that these pilots are underpaid, but they can't afford to go on strike.

>>1091362
>is it hard
Its a challenge, but worth it. You learn a lot.
>is the ILS the hardest part
No, the hardest part is a non-precision partial panel approach.
>do you have to fly the routes
Of course not, pilots ask for direct all the time. If a controller clears someone direct between two fixes, the controller is responsible for the altitude assignment. If you file direct between two fixes direct, you have to have GPS and fly the OROCA (MORA) as a minimum altitude.

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>>1091418
any advice?
>ambitious
i'm a big believer in high risk, high reward. i guess it has to fuck me over eventually, but when i took a blind leap and moved to the big city at 19, i accomplished in 3 months what usually takes people as many years. with enough drive, charisma, and luck, i think i could do well

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>Take written test 2 years ago
>Doing everything Part 61 because I need to work
>Ready to go for checkride by this time last year
>Chopper breaks down for months
>Gets fixed in time for the winter to come around
>Next to impossible to find a time the weather cooperates to get checkride done
>Summer rolls around
>Work goes nuts, end up going weeks at a time with no time off
>Finally dies down recently
>Just in time for my written test to expire


Well, fuck me, I guess

>>1091327

Kek, this

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>>1091291
>theoretically get my 200 hours in 5 weeks
So you plan on flying 6 hours DAILY? Plus studying after? You're gonna be swapping out instructors and using an exhausted brain to learn stuff. Also, you're assuming that weather delays and instructor's schedule conflicts never happen.
>should be doable since I can keep my regular job going during this time
- So your plan is to work 9-5, fly 6-midnight, then study (unguided) & repeat. No time for eating, sleeping or pooping. Besides biological needs, you need time to absorb what you've learned (both in the air and ground schooling) before successfully applying them to the next flight.
None of what you propose is impossible...until you try to self-impose your FIVE WEEK limit (to avoid one hangar fee payment?! Dude, park it on the grass for $50 a month...less at some airports!)
Bro, what's the rush? Either take the time to learn properly, or just be content buying a powered parachute to fly for fun.

>>1091291
This is the most comical thing I've read all day

>>1091291

>am I delusional?

Yes

>>1091449
im glad i could be of service
>>1091447
5 weeks is an exaggeration, i guess. the goal would be two months, certainly before canadian winter comes around. 4 hours a day, maybe sometimes more if i can handle it. i don't need long with an instructor before being able to go solo, do i?

>work 9-5
i work on-call and decide my own schedule at an average of $300 daily. rent in the dump that i live is 500 so after two days i can put whatever i make into operating costs, or just live off savings until i've powered through and try to recoup the costs later

the way i live i'd rather suffer immensely for a shorter duration. less time for distraction and delays, more emphasis on focus and training, and a better chance i push myself too hard and crash and burn. the airstrips around here are a train ride away, as well, i'd like to get more hours in per trip to be more cost effecient.

>>1091421
This is a high risk moderate reward endeavor. You have to realize that buying and selling a plane takes a lot longer than buying and selling a car, and the amount of time and money that goes into maintaining and operating them is very high, not to mention the initial cost of an airworthy plane. You must also consider insurance, which can be very expensive for low time pilots. Things never happen fast with the FAA and it may take a while to schedule a checkride with a DPE. Also, if you were to get your instrument and commercial you'd have to get an aircraft with equipment that satisfies the regulatory requirements, which will further increase your initial aircraft investment.

Its not a cheap hobby and it takes a lot of hard work and practice to get it right. You can have all the drive and charisma in the world, but you need time to build skill, money to fuel your training, and a realistic goal to shoot for.

>>1091457
this is what i need to know, i've asked around and found a couple cessna 150s for under 30k but how long it takes to sign it over is a concern. i heard about a guy who paid in cash and did his training without insurance, figuring if he crashed he'd be dead anyway, but it was from almost a decade ago and could just be a story. i'm willing to put in the time and effort.

median reward is a bit of a worry, at the end of this i'll end up spending a lot of money no matter what, and going into a career that pays half of what my current job already does, for probably the first 5 years at least

>>1091459
How much do you want to fly? Most people with a flying career have known they wanted to fly since they were a kid, and have been working towards it since. Most of the pilots who go to the airlines have a bachelors degree or better, too. Regionals don't pay well and it takes a lot of time to get to a major, so you'd better like what you do.

What kind of flying job do you hope to end up with?

>>1091455
2 months for hundreds of hours is still comical. Airline pilots would struggle to rack that up.

>>1091464
I wanted to be a helicopter pilot since I was a kid, but my parents didn't have the money. Now I'm realizing I might be able to put myself through the training, albeit fixed-wing, I would want to convert to rotary some day. Helos are just too expensive to train with, as it is. I don't care what kind of job I have as long as I'm flying one, hopefully I don't have to stay in the northwest territories is all.

>>1091468
i'm not saying i would be working or instructing or whatever you think for 200 hours. with my own plane and 1100 hours of free time accounting for sleep and travel, i'm sure i could spend 200 of it flying

>>1091468
>>1091471
in retrospect i understand where i'm going wrong here - i have maybe 8 hours a day of potential daylight and visibility, and i'll miss out on a few days at the very least due to weather. i'd need 4 hours a day, and to switch to 6 hours catch-up if i were to miss out for weather. 3 months is the most time it should take, but 2 seems doable under a strict schedule.

i've spent a good deal of time already studying exam subjects, a couple hours instruction and in a flight sim for the model i intend to buy, i'm just pretty gung ho about getting it all done at once instead of over time. time is money

>>1091473
Look we're not trying to shit on your hopes and dreams, but your time scale is ridiculous and the effort required is astronomical. Have you even had an introductory flight?

>>1091473
Do it. Report back.

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>>1091455
-When you are ready to solo depends entirely on the instructor's judgement. Could be 10 hours....could be 30. For sure, NONE will set you loose until they are absolutely certain you are ready (its their license on the line if you screw up).
>goal would be two months
I've met exactly TWO pilots in my career who claimed to have gone from zero to CPL in that time...by plopping down a pile of cash to some "shake & bake" school. They boarded there, groundschool-fly-sleep schedule... and were 2 of the worst pilots I've ever flown with. Each had at least one "that was unbelievably stupid" accident, because some new concepts & skills really do take time & experience to absorb. There WILL be new conditions that last month's rote memorization won't help you with.
Here's my suggestion: Join a flight club or a partial-membership deal (less $ down, sell your share when completed). Heck, some of them will throw in free or cheap ground school. Then, allow yourself more time... there is no gold-plated license for setting that kind of speed record.
>charisma
-that means everything in acting, almost nothing in aviation. I'll take a quiet copilot with knowledge & judgement over a charmer I have to babysit.

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>>1091291
the closest i've come to a pilot's license is uninstalling flight sim 2004 from my computer 11 years ago and even i know i'm looking forward to reading the rest of this epic post

>>1091291
>I figure if I do keep the plane, I could try to use it to fly people around while gaining hours... and I wouldn't make enough to pay off maintenance and operation costs
running what's basically an unlicensed air-taxi service and taking any monetary compensation from passengers without first obtaining a commercial pilot's license is illegal. you could even land under faa scrutiny if you're compensated in goods

>>1091648
what? you can split the cost of operation just fine with a private license, as long as it's a shard percentage.

summer WX at its finest

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>>1091764
forgot image

>>1091670
>shard percentage
yeah like you're flying people for free

>>1091648
Someone correct me but I think even if you just have passengers only cover cost of flying they can argue that you logging free hours counts towards compensation

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>>1091091
Ok

Checkride tomorrow, kinda tired of studying systems and limitations on the new jet. Mock checkride today went well.

Wish me luck fuckers!

>>1091808
Break a leg, bish

>>1091809
thanks!

>>1091802
of course people get around this to a degree if the people they're flying are their friends and family but it's harder to disguise if your passengers are total strangers. and by provision (c) if they cover even a teaspoon of avgas you can be just as fucked as had they covered the entire thing

>§61.113 Private pilot privileges and limitations: Pilot in command.

>(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) through (h) of this section, no person who holds a private pilot certificate may act as pilot in command of an aircraft that is carrying passengers or property for compensation or hire; nor may that person, for compensation or hire, act as pilot in command of an aircraft.

>(b) A private pilot may, for compensation or hire, act as pilot in command of an aircraft in connection with any business or employment if:

>>(1) The flight is only incidental to that business or employment; and

>>(2) The aircraft does not carry passengers or property for compensation or hire.

>(c) A private pilot may not pay less than the pro rata share of the operating expenses of a flight with passengers, provided the expenses involve only fuel, oil, airport expenditures, or rental fees.

>>1091857
61.113.c basically means that your passengers can pay for their own inflight snacks but they can't pay for any of the costs of actually operating the aircraft

>>1091858
What it really means is you have to foot 51% or better of the actual operating costs of the aircraft. They can go and buy you a $2,000 steak and lobster dinner right afterwards (so long as its out of the kindness of their heart and not as a payment), but they can't throw down for 5 of the 8 gallons you burned beating up the runway earlier.

>>1091442
Sorry to hear Anon, but you'll need to know those things forever. It's not just for a test. The monkey-skills of flying is what's going to suck - a year's a long time

I have been on 4chan 10 years and only just found there is somewhere to talk about aviation.

>>1091865

Same here!

>>1091808
If the mock went fine just go over those misses for an hour and sleep

>>1091870

I slept. Little too much, now back to studying. Oral is in 5.5 hrs.

>>1091808

Are those approach charts as complicated as they look? I'm still working on my private pilot, so I've never used those things before

>>1091908
They have a lot of information on them, and some are a little complicated, but they only look that way because you haven't used them before. Jeppesen charts are fantastic and have no compare.

Somewhere in this thread, someone commented that an ILS approach might be hard. I think they're easier than non-precision approaches because once you get on the glide slope, you're basically done. Small adjustments and either land or go around. Of course, this is coming from someone who is used to flying with a Flight Director. The sim instructor made me shoot one with no flight director the other day, while looking at a screen across the cockpit, and i felt like a private pilot again :D

>>1091328
>What they could have easily done is discontinue the certification of engines using 100LL.

Which would ground a bunch of historic aircraft permanently once they run out of hours on their engines, as well as people who can't afford brand new diesel Continentals, which happens to be most people, since unlike what the anti-GA crowd thinks this really isn't a rich man's game. And richfags run turbines anyway.

Besides, the environmental gains are questionable, what with particulates and all that. And with turbines the lower efficiency. I'd be more interested seeing wider roll-out of avgas 91/96UL that they have been experimenting with in Sweden as an alternative to mogas which has all sorts of tomfoolery that makes aviation use downright dangerous.

>>1091911
Still havent used a Jeppesen chart as I'm on Foreflight now. I'm assuming based on your picture there's still a chance I'll see them in the future yeah?

>>1091927
>Which would ground a bunch of historic aircraft permanently once they run out of hours on their engines
That isn't how engine certification works, you can reproduce old designs, you simply couldn't get new designs approved for enterprise purposes.

>Besides, the environmental gains are questionable
Lead is about the worst thing you can put near where humans are, it causes loss in IQ.

>I'd be more interested seeing wider roll-out of avgas 91/96UL that they have been experimenting with in Sweden as an alternative to mogas which has all sorts of tomfoolery that makes aviation use downright dangerous
You can convert an engine from leaded to unleaded fuel with a simple valve seating change, and adjusted piston seals. The whole purpose of lead in fuel was to cake the combustion chamber with a soft coating, sealing up gaps and preventing piston wear.

Unleaded fuel is only dangerous when misused, like anything in aviation.

There seems to be a lot of big fractional ownership companies for corporate aircraft, but are there any that provide light piston singles?

I know that people do this for individual planes, but it seems like something that might benefit from the economy of scale, when you get a whole fleet and not just individual planes. Maybe it could even be viable for smaller companies who need the flexibility of GA but don't have the budget for something big like a King Air.

But I guess it's hard to get something like that off the ground in these GA-hostile times.

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>>1091929
I dont think i'm exaggerating too much in stating that almost every flight department uses jeppesen charts. NOAA plates are great and way less expensive, but I almost can't even tell what's going on on those things. Jepp charts rock, but there's no reason to spend the big $$$ on them as an individual.

Still studying and not studying. Wanna get this over with.

>>1091942
or that picture could post FUCKING SIDEWAYS

whatever

>>1091942

Does EVERY Pilot use Pilot pens? My entire flight school does and even I do.

>>1091945
I just think they happen to be a very popular pen, especially with those who buy pens bulk, schools, offices, etc.

I'm not a fan, they feel cheap and rattly. I'm partial to Ballograf, myself.

>>1091945
Anything that clicks, so you can use it one-handed. No pens with caps in the cockpit, pls.

>>1091945
I do and I prefer the 0.38s but the regular 05s will do

>>1091857
I'll never understand why the FAA always tries so hard to fuck everyone over.

Fucking government.

>>1091945
i lose so many i just use whatever is cheapest

Anyone know what happens if you join the Air Force but already have a SEP rating along with an instrumental rating?

Do I have to do all the basic training lessons from scratch or do they just checkride me?

>>1092205
First define "join". If you are enlisting the only thing you may ever fly is a RPA, officer then yes you will fly.

>>1092205
You sound too stupid to fly.

>>1092227
this desu

>>1092205
You skip IFT if you get a slot, but you're getting way ahead of yourself.

How can I get cheap logged hours? The number of hours I have logged help increase PCSM scores and I'm trying to get a UPT slot.

>>1092205

I've heard that if asked you should just say "I have a few hours."

It's a tad dirty but you get to go through IFT and get to the top of the list because you have prior knowledge and you're simply tweaking to fit the AF flying style.

>>1092205
You get to skip IFT and that's it. After that it doesn't matter if you have 50 hours with a PPL or have been flying in the airlines for years, you have to go through the entire year-long UPT program.

GA is miles apart from Air Force flying. Do you really think you would be able to ace all the T-6 checkrides from the start, including formation flying, just because you have a couple civilian ratings? Lmao

>>1092377

Thought I'd moan a little and get some advice.

The airport I fly from seems to be losing ATC soon and is supposed to be going to AGCS. That really sucks because I've just started talking to the tower, so now it's probably going to get extra complicated and just generally, it's sad because ATC staff are being laid off.

On the upside though, my club's getting a PA-28 with fixed gear and prop which is way cheaper per hour than the others, so I can afford to give that a try some time. Are the PA-28s any good? Anything weird about them that might catch a novice out?

>>1092452

didn't mean to reply. Sorry.

>>1092377
>formation flying
isnt that mainly a fighter thing

>>1092452
No. Regular old airplane.

I passed my checkride. 2nd type rating is in the books.

>>1092728

Congratulations!

my instructor today told me that I'm just about ready for my Private checkride. He's gonna have me do a final Progress Check with my school's chief flight instructor this coming Friday. Depending how that goes, the checkride will be scheduled soon. Can't believe I'm so close to it

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>>1092604
Certainly not

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>>1089954

>>1092728
noice

>>1092736
>I'm so triggered by a bunch of people praying on the side of the street

>>1092731
The Cardinal is the most aesthetic Cessna

>>1092731
im not sure how often formation flying is required in ga

I don't know a single thing about becoming a pilot.

It doesn't seem like something you can just go into completely blind. What are you expected to know/study beforehand? How much personal study time is required before even considering enrolling in school?

>>1092789

>It doesn't seem like something you can just go into completely blind

Wrong.

They literally teach you every single thing you need to know.

Just go to a flight school at your local airport and ask to do a "Discovery Flight". They are cheap and you can get the feel if you want to actually do it or not.

Here's what a lesson generally looks like. Btw, this guy's videos has been a great supplement to my flight training so far.

https://youtu.be/5iEBlS1COds

>>1092778
I believe it is

>>1092783
Required? No. Fun? Yes.

>>1092604
Mainly. But they want you to understand the basics so you do that in primary

>>1092793
This. If you can read, write and speak English and you can use a calculator, you are qualified to start flight school.

>>1092789

I second >>1092793.

Your best option really is to find a good local flying club and ask about a trial flight. I was interested in flying and planes before I started, but I had hardly any practical knowledge beyond a basic understanding of "plane go fast. Plane go up."

Book yourself in for one. You'll not regret it.

>>1092778

I prefer the Skymasters, though that's probably because they're the least aesthetic Cessnas. I love how stupid and weird they look.

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When Mooney and Cessna are kept in same hangar

>>1092931

lewd

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ill start my multi engine IFR rating in one or two weeks or so on a PA44
what can i expect?

i cant wait. the PA44 is such a beautiful aircraft.

>>1092950
You can expect leg day. Also I hear single engine performance is less than stellar

What's a good entry-level plane for flight into known icing? Preferably something with a big door to get fairly big crates of equipment in, so something like a Cirrus would not be an option. Piper Seneca or Saratoga would be the ideal form factor, but I'm not sure how they cope with ice.

Not that I have any money for this sort of thing, but I'd like to run the numbers and see how feasible it is for a small engineering company to fly people and gear around with.

>>1093015
Baron 58 maybe? They can be expensive though

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Failed my Instructor Check ride yesterday. Feeling like shit.

>>1093065

What happened? :/

>>1093068
Completely messed up the Flight portion. Wasted too much time trying to figure out endurance with the inspector while I was suppose to show slow flight, forgot to do engine warm up on forced approaches, landed long on a short field landing. Was just nervous as well during the ride and everything just crumbled.

>>1093000
eh it can still climb with around 300fpm if everythings perfect.

>>1093069

Aw, man that sounds bad.

I guess you can always try it again at a later date. It sounds like maybe the pressure was just a bit much for you, so maybe just spend your next few flights going over everything in the checkride, or maybe find a way to feel a bit more comfortable up there.

Either way, we can't all pass that sort of thing first time, so don't beat yourself up too hard. You'll get it eventually.

>>1093089
yea i know. I just felt like I let everyone down including my Instructor. I've managed to pass all my other flight test on first try, PPL, CPL, Multi, IFR. So this really was a reality check.

>>1093091
Failure is part of the process my dude, you're learning the hardest lesson for student pilots to learn. Most people don't go through all their ratings without a failure, so I'd say you're good.

>>1093091
CFI is super hard, dont get too down on yourself about it. Fix yourself and come back stronger

>>1089720
>I'd probably have to be IFR rated
>But even then, a €154/h rental fee at the nearest club (which I doubt I can beat by owning) is already discouraging.

That 154e/h is probably for the cheapest piece of shit anyway, not for an ifr rated craft. On top of that, even though you'd rent an ifr rated plane, you're not going to be allowed to fly into known icing conditions with a shitty de-ice boots and anti-iced propeller. Airlines have jet engines which produce high bleed air which is somewhat effective way to do anti-ice. Come to think of it, even one smallish jet I was rated in had de-ice boots, god almighty.

>>1090104
Whats wrong with you? 100LL is a miniscule problem compared to hemi v8 trucks which amerifats drive around to closest shopping mall to get in-n-out deep fried shit they cant live without

>>1090493
Its easier to get A1 anywhere in the world than avgas.

>>1091362
>Is the hardest part ILS landings?

Ils approaches are easier than any visuals.

>>1092745
>France is no longer France
>france...

>>1093146
Yeah I was tempted to tease you but cfi us fucking hard

>>1093074
lol 300 ft/m

>>1091942
>I dont think i'm exaggerating too much in stating that almost every flight department uses jeppesen charts.

That might be true in US. In yurup bigger airlines have their own branded charts from a few selected vendors. For example the outfit I fly for doesnt use jeppesen charts.

>>1091808
That checklist looks pretty simple.

>>1090032
fucking kill yourself, piece of shit
>>1093195
>compared to those bad, mean V8 trucks ;_;
and you kill yourself as well.

jesus fucking christ. Look at chinas/indias etc. industry. i wont stop flying my lycoming just to even out sum-tin-wrong lee's iron mill for 1/100th second.

>>1091864
I understand this, and I rarely get time to fly more than once or twice a month, so it's perfectly sensible, if more than a bit frustrating. Such is life as an adult, I suppose

>>1092783
Required schmequired, it's fun and cool

>>1091473
That's still monumentally dumb.

I'm going to let you in on a little secret: Flying is exhausting. As a new pilot, you're going to have maybe an hour of physical endurance before you're all tuckered out per day, and you'll be starving at the end of it.

Also, you have no idea how much weather can affect your plans. You're not going to be charging headfirst into bad weather in a Cessna or a Robinson, and a strong gust of wind can ruin your day. As a new guy, you're going to be hunting for perfect weather until you're comfy behind the controls of an aircraft.

Lastly, everyone has different schedules, especially doing it Part 61 style. You'll have work, your CFI will have work, the checkride instructor will be on vacation in Florida, you'll need to finish ground school or do a weekend aviation seminar, all this shit will collude to fuck up your already absurd timetable.

>>1093237
China is doing more to clean up their environment than the US these days. So is India. Amerilards are stupider than a country of people who openly shit in the streets.

>>1093226
>>1093146
>>1093099
thanks guys. have the re-test booked in 2 weeks. so I gotta ramp it up and get back into the mood. Any recommendations for someone doing their CFI checkride? I live in Canada btw.

>>1093289
do you have a chance to ride along with another CFI and their student?

>>1093292
That is a great idea! I will ask the other instructors at the school if I can do that.

>>1093000
>You can expect leg day.
Oh fuck, I'm going to be starting my multi training in a PA44 soon too. I gotta get in shape.

>>1093237
>i wont stop flying my lycoming just to even out sum-tin-wrong lee's iron mill for 1/100th second.

You do that. In the meantime I'll keep flying with my CFM56s.

>>1093195
>That 154e/h is probably for the cheapest piece of shit anyway, not for an ifr rated craft. On top of that, even though you'd rent an ifr rated plane, you're not going to be allowed to fly into known icing conditions with a shitty de-ice boots and anti-iced propeller. Airlines have jet engines which produce high bleed air which is somewhat effective way to do anti-ice. Come to think of it, even one smallish jet I was rated in had de-ice boots, god almighty.

Another €10 gets me a decent IFR-certified Archer or Skyhawk from this century, but yeah, those don't even have boots, so IMC isn't much of an option anyway.

The other option would be to ditch the idea of GA for transport and get something purely to dick around in. Something in the same category as the Cub, or maybe build a Pietenpol. One good thing about dicking around with bush planes is that I'd hopefully get enough experience to keep me alive if I'd ever have to make a forced landing. That's one thing that scares me about recreational flying, hearing about all those perfectly survivable forced landings ending in disaster because the pilot hadn't practised that scenario that week.

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>>1090422
>>1090422


I am in the same boat in a way. I just exited the service and am about halfway to my private pilot's license and will be pursuing my commercial and instrument rating with my GI bill afterward. Prior to exiting the total the post 9/11 GI bill will cover is $13031.61 with a $1000 book stipend. The biggest thing you are going to need to look for is a Part 141 school, which should be pretty easy to find.


http://inquiry.vba.va.gov/weamspub/buildSearchCountryCriteria.do

This page here should help you out with finding a good flight school that will take the GI bill.

Best of luck to you!

>>1093000
There's no critical engine on the semen hole, It's not that bad. Try it in a Seneca, aztec, Barron, etc. Thems are REAL control forces.

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>when you forget the foggles

>>1093045
Yes, a twin might be a good idea for IMC. Then again, they keep saying that with twins you'll have a second engine to take you to the scene of the crash, I wonder how big you have to get before that no longer is an issue.

Or maybe a turboprop single, should be simpler and more reliable, and A1 is much cheaper and much more available. Probably an unpressurised one like a Caravan, so it will have big doors for unwieldy equipment.

Maybe very light jets are worth considering too, but then you lose the easy cargo handling, but you might be able to get out of ice with brute force. But jets are probably way, way out of the budget that I have in mind.

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Who would you recommend financing an aircraft through? I have looked into AOPA, but I am looking for some more options.

>>1093724

I did look at that in the past. Particularly Aerosim. The course is 2 years and you get a total of like $42,000 from the VA. However. It's 2 years, and there is no BAH.

Because of that. I decided to just do ATP. Because I'll get $11,500 tuition reimbursement from a partnering airline, and the GI Bill will reimburse me about $12k. and all my training will be done in 6 months. Which I'll have a guaranteed job as an instructor immediately after.

Question for certified pilots

Who do you go to if you have a question regarding flying? For example, say you haven't flown in Class B or C airspace in a very long time and couldn't quite remember the procedure. Do you just read the FAR/AIM and go off that?

I just ask because now I'm just a student, so all questions I have a CFI to go to. But in just wondering who you all go to. ive heard that flying is a profession where you never stop learning. So, I'm just curious what resources are available for questions besides the books

>>1094012
For something like that I would review the procedures in the Jeppessen PPL Flight Manual or FAR/AIM. But the best bet would be to consult with a CFI and maybe go up with them if you can

>>1094012
Ask other pilots, previous instructors, consult the AIM, AFH, or PHAK, and YouTube that shit

>>1094012

I'd talk to a CFI in that local area for the airspace. They'd know a bit more about that airspace specifically and you'd get a good review. doesn't even have to be a flight, just give him $20 for an oral review.

>>1094022
>PHAK
hwat

>>1094028
Pilots Handbook of Aeronatical Knowledge, the FAA publication

>>1094039
ah

>>1091094
Sometimes you do flights in and out of your domicile, but multi-day trips you usually range across the route system. I'm LAX based, and my most recent trip was a four day with overnights in DVL, PSC, and COS.

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

why do you try to fuck me over John King?? Why?

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>>1094203
Why cant anything aviation and computer related have an aesthetically attractive UI

>>1094211

I'm so pissed.

I've just been doing review for my upcoming checkride. I was getting a ton of questions wrong and was starting to freak out how I was doing so poorly. But then I got that bullshit question, and another one about fuel weight. So now I fucking realized that this shit is fucked. So, I was probably right about the other answers, but now I'm confused because I was making notes of the "correct" answers.

FUCK

>>1094199

Oh ok cool.

My biggest question was, let's say I was DCA based with Republic's AE fleet. I'd still be able to get some international flights to the Caribbean even tho DCA doesn't fly there? (As shown in the map)

>>1094212
I used Prepware and it was ok. Dont sweat it though, you can afford to miss a few(just not too many)

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i quit.

>>1094203
>>1094211
If you think that's bad, look at shipping.

The people who do this shit deserve a good beating. How hard can it be to actually hire someone competent to do this stuff?

>>1094265

It's such bullshit. I'm actually worried that the Cessna course fucked me by teaching wrong answers. There was a lot of them that was fucked up.

>"An aircraft is 90lbs over maximum takeoff weight. How many gallons of fuel should you drain to meet the standards?"
>answers A- 10, B- 12, C- 15
>hmm ok, so Avgas is 6lbs per gallon. Soooo 6x15=90
>select C- 15
>"Sorry, the correct answer is B"

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1094211
It's not meant to be attractive, it's meant to be stable software and be clear and easy to understand. You want pretty, go buy a mac

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>>1094435
That's Avidyne's problem. They tried to be attractive, 10 years ago, which ends up looking unattractive. They'd have been better off keeping things ultra basic like Garmin.

>>1094438
It's not even that I don't think they COULD make it attractive, you just don't want to introduce tons of new bugs into mission critical software like plane navigation all because you needed to spin the screen around with Compiz

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>>1094439
I dont want anything fancy, I'm just griping about minor design details like an autist. Like pic related, why even bother loading some stupid .jpg of a button into the system if it looks dated by the time the system gets certified.

Hey guys A&P tech here, my ultimate goal is to be a commercial pilot, after getting the commercial license is being an instructor the only way to get hours? Is there anything else?

>>1090287

renton airport or BFI?

>>1094458
do you like to do physical labour for 2 years on the ramp? that's also an option.

>>1094465

I'm 1 year in on the physical labor as an AP, work on A320 and 737s all day.

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>you will never fly a composite turboprop An-2

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>>1094493

>you will never fly a Spitfire like Bane

>>1094493
what the fuck is this

where could I get one

I bet the interior looks the same as old AN2 with that specific USSR color scheme

>>1094012

I read AFM/FCOM/operation manuals, fars, easa ops, what ever is needed. Or ask friends, or even captains. Google it but double check it from manuals as internet is full of shit

I'm confused, should get a commercial license with instructor ratings and teach or just get the instructor ratings and teach and work my way up to commercial?

>>1094649
You need a commercial to be an instructor

>>1094654

Ah..kk

>>1094663
Also are you confusing a Commercial with an ATP?

>>1094667

Googling is confusing me, all these flight training site are really vague with how much a commercial license costs, it's annoying

>haven't done any flying in months
fug
Going back into training is going to be awful.

>>1094675
try five years

I had a five year break after I finished my training and got a flying job.

>>1094672
I have the same problem.

Trying to figure out what it takes to get CPL rated only, not having any interest in an ATPL since I have no desire to fly highly automated airliners, nor make aviation my day job.

Particularly how CPL and ATPL differ in ground school. But I can't find anyone who offer CPL ground school only. I could take the ATPL course, but if it differs greatly from doing CPL only it seems like it would be a waste of money.

>>1094757

ATL is a CPL with 1500 hours

>>1094780
So there's no appreciable difference in time spent in ground school?

As far as I can tell ATPL includes ME and IR, whereas a pure CPL course (if such a thing existed) would cover single engine VFR operation only. And IR seems to be a good idea anyway, and ME seems more hands-on that theoretical. If that's the only difference there might not be anything to gain from stopping short of ATPL.

My thinking is that although you can fly to work on a PPL just like you can drive to work without a commercial driver's license, it's a lot easier to end up in a grey area with aviation.

>>1093065
That is the most commonly failed checkride to my knowledge. Figure out what you did wrong, fix it, go back. Nothing is wrong with you that prevents you from doing it eventually.

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I love my job

>>1094888
I'd give my entire life to the military if I could fly those.

>>1094900

This video makes me chub

https://youtu.be/ZESIsgZBl3Q

>>1091291
>mfw also a 24 year old theatre professional (stage manager)
>paying for PPL entirely with savings
>did ground school in a month, flying twice a week
>going to save for another year afterwards to get my CPL
>fly twice a month at least in between
>concurrently start saving for my own aircraft. maybe a homebuilt since it could be more cost-effective, or a shared lease with some buddies
>not worrying about making my money back just yet
>not interested in working a passenger airline, but considering firefighting, private charters or cargo to remote areas

Sometimes my parents and self doubts make me feel like a fuck up for going this path, but reading a post like this is reassuring.

>>1095010
Fuck me he's Canadian too, I feel like I'm staring into a mirror showing me what I could have been

Need some advice. I want to get my PPL in the future and I was considering CPL, but I did an intro flight in a C150 a month ago and I got a bit panicked by the shakiness to the point I actually felt stressed (I'm normally super chill) and the instructor turned it into a sightseeing flight. Do you ever get over that feeling or is it game over for my aviation ambitions?

>>1095025
There's a really good chance you'll get over it if you go up again. Not every flight will be shaky like that, and even if it is, you can try to get used to it. It's worth trying maybe two more flights and if you really can't handle it then maybe it's not for you

>>1095026
Thanks anon. I have the opportunity to go back up this week and I was really anxious about it because of how I reacted the first time. Here's to hoping this next one goes better.

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>>1095010

my plan is to take a loan out for my commercial and instructor ratings, then work part time as a instructor getting hours while I work part time as a Line A&P Technician.

After a few days of deep thinking I decided I don't wanna be a tech for the rest of my life.

>>1095028

How pilots get into the seat. Do they physically step on and climb over or does that seat literally roll all the way back?

>>1095081
Seats roll back, like in cars

>>1095028
Beautiful.

If you have some questions about a320 I can try to answer them, I'm rated and current.

>>1095081
Like anon >>1095082 told, seats move backwards and to the side.

>>1095097

type rated as well =] but not for flying.

mobile.airlinetechs.com/airbus/airbusHome.php

bookmark this, it tells you resets you can do w/o needing to call a mechanic.

>>1095081

as other people answered they move back, in the picture the seats are as back as they go, they actually slide inward a few inches then forwards, in a 737 they move but barely u have to step over the center console to get in.

>>1095144

that's specifically what I wanted to know. I knew they rolled back. But I just couldn't imagine them rolling all the way back to the door.

>>1094582
dat glide ratio, doe

How do I get into recreational hot air ballooning?

>>1095000

"... spiked, notch north" and he poops flares... That's going to make for an easy kill call.

>>1095252

Getting caught was apart of his plan

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>>1094212
Yep, the written tests have always been like that. If you try to just figure out the correct answer based on your knowledge/experience, you could fail PPL written. I got by with highlighting the "correct" answers from the study sheets, and just go for automatic, rote memorization, without thinking about it. Sucks, but that's how it is. Pic unrelated....I just like that bird.

>>1095287

You don't understand.

The Cessna Ground School practice tests are fucked. They did a recent update and it mixed up the answers. Literally, look at this>>1094203

What I was saying, I kept getting questions wrong and I didn't understand why, because I really thought I was right. But once I hit this question and asked for the explanation because it baffled me, that's when I realized those practice questions are completely fucked.

>>1095257
>How do I get into recreational hot air ballooning?

Stop masturbating.

>>1095025
Yesterday I lost engine power in a single (C150 actually),
Declared an emergency, got her down, fixed, and flew another 5 hours that same day. You get over that shit and fly.

>>1095534

I was talking to some jetblue pilots who told me they threw up their first time.

>>1088996
I've noticed radars on top of Class C towers but never on Class D towers that I can recall. Perhaps they share data from other ATC radar stations over a phone/internet line.

>>1095540
>>1088996
They use ADS-B and a terminal radar feature if I remember correctly. It's not necessarily for radar separation but for situational awareness. They can also use secondary radar information (transponder info) if they're nearby a busier airport

Could be inaccurate cause I'm going off of memory, so if I'm wrong someone chime in

>>1095534
Neat. Were you in the pattern when it happened? Did you put it down in a field or on a road?

why are women allowed to pilot planes? Asking for a friend in saudi..

>>1095702
I would exactly say it was neat. Happened on my way home from Oshkosh, cross country. Landed at an airport.

>>1095719
American women fly better than Saudi men. Tell him that.

>>1095729
"american women are just men in skirts"

>>1095733
And damn good pilots.

>>1095728

What was your altitude when it went out?

>>1095719

Because this

https://youtu.be/su2pg029awQ

>>1095747
7,500. Airport was at 2,000, tops of mountains 4,000.

>>1095765

I hope your comms ends up on VASAviation's YouTube channel

>>1095772
I hope it doesn't. Lost contact with center when I went below the top of the mountains, so tried 121.5, another pilot on guard relayed another center freq to try, switched to that one, by that time I didn't have time to say anything really. Switched to Unicom and said "emergency aircraft on final runway x"

The radio work was a real shit show b/c all the frequency changes. They say aviate, then navigate, then communicate... and I feel like I had the first two well established, So I don't think all that fiddling with the radio really hurt anything, but your mileage may vary.

>>1095779

What was the cause of your engine out?

you did good tho man. Glad you made a safe landing. That sounds stressful

>>1095780
>>1095780
It started with carburetor ice. I applied carb heat but the cable that controls the flap in the air box broke, So I was getting only partial carb heat and partial primary air. Ice choked out the engine. Leaned the mixture way back and was able to regain *some* power once I was down around 4,000. By the time I was on short final I could have probably done a go around if not for the mountains, but I wasn't really interested in finding out. Was way high on approach (better than the alternative) so slipped it hard and landed. Atlanta artcc had called the airport so they were expecting me. Wasn't what I would call a greaser but we landed just fine and that was that. I basically this played glider pilot for a few minutes lol

As to it being stressful, I just took a breath when I knew I couldnt maintain altitude and kinda told myself "Ok, time to get to work" and pushed the nerves out of my mind. Wife was super chill through the whole thing too and even helped out by copying down a phone number on our way down.

>>1095785
>Wife was super chill through the whole thing too and even helped out by copying down a phone number on our way down.
Good wifey.

>>1095785

That's really good you were close to the airport. Did you have any question if you would make the runway or go for a highway or grass field?

>>1095748
>tfw no gorgeous 10/10 pilot wife

>>1095812

I fucking knoooooow

I want FO Sabrina :(

>>1095822
I'd like to fill her tank with Jet A-1 if you know what I mean

New thread

>>1095827
>>1095827

>>1095808
There were no good alternate places to land, I was over the mountains. It was either airport or trees.

>>1095748
Thats a fat one

>>1094211
The FAA has a lot of strict rules on how you can do the graphics for every little thing you can see on that screen and when getting it certified, making it pretty usually doesn't coincide with what they want or makes certification much more expensive
t. designer of these

>>1093265
>China is doing more to clean up their environment than the US these days. So is India.

You're a complete fucking moron if you actually believe that.