/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

>>74095629
wrong. killer vibrato should be a pic of ace frehley

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1053CA16DDD05579

>>74095628
>why did they make archtops without soundholes even before they had electric pickups
Without any soundholes? I'm not aware of any, do you have a picture or a link? In theory it would still work, it would be like a closed speaker cabinet instead of an open one.
>also is there an archtop with a bridge pickup? but like a jazz hollowbody not just a semihollow like a es335
I know that the retrofitted pickups (in the very early days) were mostly in the neck position for some reason (warmer tone was more suitable for jazz, or they didn't know any better?). I'm no expert, you can browse big music stores for hollowbodies and see if some come up with a bridge pickup. Be aware though that a complete hollowbody guitar can have issues with feedback if you play amplified, that was one of the reasons why they made semi-hollows.

>>74095678
They're made in mexico, mexican labour is cheaper so they can be produced cheaper. Because of that they are also the "cheaper line" of Fender guitars, meaning they use some cheaper hardware and pickups than the american ones. Not a massive difference. People also say that quality control is tighter on the american made ones, so the standard of production should be higher with these but who knows honestly. And if you get one and have a luthier work on it to make it perfect (if that is necessary) then there won't be a real difference between the two except for slightly different hardware and pickups.

>>74095708
well not rounded holes, just small f holes i suppose they would be very quiet

>>74095708
I have an archtop on which some retard coiled the floating bridge UPSIDE DOWN, is there any fucking way to fix this on my own?

>>74095688
>he doesn't get the joke

>>74095688
whops that link was accidental

>>74095760
Hmm...I'll consider the Mexican one. Is the country of origin disclosed when buying or are there any specific ones to look out for? Also any specific model you would recommend?

>>74095789
Cellos and upright basses also just use tiny F holes, the hole doesn't generate the sound, the vibrating top does. It's basically a speaker membrane (kinda). The holes just need to be able to let a tiny amount of air through, f holes are just fine for that.
>>74095814
I have no clue, sorry.

Im looking to get a low watt tube amp, i only play on bedroom level.

Is this something i should consider?
https://www.thomann.de/se/jet_city_amplification_custom_5_bk_bundle.htm


thanks for any tips.

>>74095886
get an orange, nothing sounds better than an orange.

also eat oranges they are yummy

>>74095855
>>74095855
The mexican ones are cheaper, it clearly says "made in mexico" on the headstock and it should also say that on the product page. In your price range I'm pretty sure you'll only find made in mexico fender guitars.

Basically, the country of origin is already (kinda) the product line. You'll see a "fender standard stratocaster mim" mim stands for made in mexico. And then there would be a "fender standard stratocaster mia", made in america. Those are clearly labeled and 2 different lines of products. And actually they rebranded the standard mia line to the "american professional" series now, they start at 1500 as far as I could tell.

Basically, a fender standard stratocaster in your price range will be made in mexico most likely. They have some specialized models, but just the base model or maybe an HSS strat (humbucker single coil single coils instead of 3 single coil pickups) should serve you just fine. But I'd definitely go to a store and try them out, and also other brands of course.

Sorry if that was confusing, I should structure these better.

>>74095955
No need for apologies, I appreciate any and all information I can get on the matter.

I might actually consider pitching in myself to get an American made guitar. I'm sure the Mexican ones are great but it's just something that calls to me about having an American made Fender.

Quite a dumb idea considering it's gonna cost more but this will probably become a family heirloom so I guess only the best is good enough.

>>74095629
Repost, but the old thread died quickly.
I'm eyeing a custom made LP-ish guitar and my goal is to modernize the design (a bit) an to get rid of the inherent flaws in it. Of course it'll also be made to my liking, but that's the main goal.

The idea is:
Mahogany body with flamed maple top. Maybe a thinner body to make it more comfortable, could this result in head dive issues since it's reducing the weight of the body?
A better headstock design, more shallow angle, reinforced joint area, different headstock shape so the strings actually go over the nut straight (tuning machines moving inward). This should eliminate most of the tuning stability issues that LPs have. Oh and probably proper modern locking tuning machines or something like that.
A maple neck? I'm still reading up on this, but hardrock maple is considerably harder than most if not all mahogany. It just seems like it would be more stable and I like that.
2 humbuckers and the traditional control layout (2T, 2V, 3-way toggle), but I'd add two 3-way mini switches so I can switch the humbuckers to serial/parallel/single coil individually. Also, treble bleed or something similar on both volume controls.
24 frets (don't judge me)
A different bridge? Does the traditional tune o matic have issues? Not sure, never had a proper LP.

Yeah, any input, any ideas, anything I missed or didn't specify, anything stupid I mentioned, let me know.

Most important issues, the ones I am really not sure about: maple neck? different bridge? thinner body? but I welcome any ideas, questions, tips, etc. Just anything really.

>>74096038
Eh, it is your decision. I personally think that there is nothing mystical about the MIA Fenders, but just try them out and see for yourself. The new ones, the american professional line, also changed some minor things I think. Some modernizations or tweaks, not sure. But the difference between the american models and the standard mexican ones seems to have widened a bit with the refresh.

What's a guitar with a floating whammy bar that isn't from Blender, or isn't a jazzmaster/jaguar/mustang, u don't want to give them any more money

>>74096038

I dont honestly think that having AMERICAN on your headstock justifies the price and workmanship that goes into a modern day Fender guitar

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>I've never really listened to guitarists, because they've never really interested me. In fact, I think the guitar is a pretty feeble instrument. Virtually nothing interests me about the guitar.
/gg/ btfo.

>>74096157
Yes on the maple neck. Expensive Gibson Archtops have them and you rarely see them with broken headstocks (though it could be because it's a more careful type of owner)

>>74096157

I personally consider maple necks to be disgusting

Guess the rest of it depends on your budget, you really to to custom a custom guitar?

>>74096228
I recognise that exact guitar.

>>74096228

Nice kitchen faggot

Are pink guitars gay?

>>74096261

Yes

>>74096285
Okay, just comfirming that I'm a faggot.

What's a good guitar with humbuckers that i can find for 1000-1800$? I'd trade this strat pro us that i got in a trade. Looking for thst classic rock sound but dont have the cash for a les paul. I love strats clean tone but feel like they sound like shit with distortion. What do?

>>74096210
Deimel firestar

>>74096293

Maybe you are a post modern faggot who does not care about pink guitars?

>>74096038
>>74096196
I looked it up, new and "better" pickups, a new neck profile (subjective), frets are shaped differently (subjective), treble bleed on the volume control (a technicality, most players don't really use the volume control too much and at home it's not that relevant), better tremolo system, slightly better hardware, allegedly better quality control.
That's what you're getting with the USA model over the mexican one. Again, I'd say you should go to a store and maybe even compare them side to side and decide for yourself if it's worth the extra money.

>>74096235
I'm very tempted and I have some hints on why it "should" theoretically be better. Not sure.
>>74096237
Why?
>you really to to custom a custom guitar?
erm, what? Do I really need one? Basically, I want an LP-style, kinda, guitar but I'm really not happy with the 60 year old design that has many flaws. So I'd get one that is exactly how I want it with the modifications that I like. It will be based on an existing design, which is based on an LP from a luthier here, it won't be complete custom madness for 10,000 bucks, I just want to get it right and not miss anything.

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>>74096196
>>74096213
Strato Hecha en México

https://youtu.be/tfDIiWbYG6I
>1:48
what is on that run after the Gb3b5 Eb3b5

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>>74096469
Computer, could you kick up the Gb3b5 Eb3b5 please

>>74096157
>>74096157
>Maybe a thinner body to make it more comfortable, could this result in head dive issues since it's reducing the weight of the body?
it will result in a thinner sound, like an sg
plus the maple neck. it will be a bright les paul

My gf just left me, will this shitty shitty feeling at least make me better at playing the blues?

>>74096858
Isn't blues just the default playing style?

>>74096801
>TOAN WUDDD

>>74096904
>toan plastic
>toan concrete

>>74096858

It will make you better at being human

>>74095629
Did that one anon ever get his Hughes and Kettner amp working? It happened a week or so ago

>>74096858
Girlfriend left, dog dead, truck stolen... Sorry, bro. Those are country feels.

>>74096228
Nice glasses faggot

>>74096879
>Isn't blues just the default playing style?
It's the default theft of great style that invented the blacks

only weak girly guys play with their pick slanted

should i read more poetry if i want to write lyrics?

>>74097406
you should read more lyrics

>>74096801
I'm kinda sceptical about the tone wood stuff having such a large impact, again I'm not sure. I'll keep it in mind though.

>>74097419
what if i want to write like bob dylan

>>74097567
buy bob a dylan brain

After years of playing guitar, there is yet one question for me that remains to be solved:

What in the fuck does tone do?

>>74097382
only weaklings play with picks

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Fuck it, I'm too tired to do this tonight.

I'll be back tomorrow, fa/gg/ots.

Give me a retardedly hard lick to practice because I'm bored

>>74098726
Knocking on heavens door.

>>74097382
Only fags refuse to use tactics that help them play cleaner

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>>74098394
it's okay i'll take over

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>>74098848
Nah, brah. I got this. Oh... Wait... Wrong board.

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Suggest me a versatile pickup for bridge position of my Les Paul. Surely there must be something beside Seymour Duncan JBs.

>>74099142
Fishmemes.

>>74098848
We still never got an answer to where that gif came from.

>>74099158
yes you did, it came from my computer

What gauge strings should I put on a Gibson EB-0?

>>74099203
post timestamp

>>74099286
no, because I like the fact that it bothers you

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>>74099142
seymour duncan p rails with triple shot ring

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>be real froosh
>everything going just as planned
You people have no idea.

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>mfw weeb nu-froosh promised to shit up every /gg/ thread until /gg/ was dead
>mfw he did
>mfw weeb froosh came back and got upset when he saw how weeb nu-froosh had stolen all his thunder
>but it was too late
>/gg/ was an empty shell
>tfw you fuck with weeb neets on 4chan and they eat your lunch and everybody elses lunch too
terrible

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>>74099577
>mfw weeb froosh came back
meant froosh not weeb froosh I'm such an idiot

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>>74098394
>>74098848
>>74099064
>>74099158
>>74099203
>>74099286
>>74099332
>>74099558
>>74099577
>>74099619
friendly reminder roman hasn't been on /gg/ since last year and these autists are making up shit to ruin the general and blame someone else and probably don't even play the guitar

this place used to be something, not anymore.

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>>74099685
>reddit spacing
this is weeb nu-froosh everyone
he destroyed /gg/
probably forever

>>74099750
How long have you been on /mu/? A week? That's not what reddit spacing is.

>gloating over the corpse you're responsible for
You really are a piece of shit roman

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>>74099750
The reality is the real froosh severely disabled this general over 3 year ago. This nu-froosh character is just picking the bones and finishing the job, if it's not just the actual froosh/roman, knowing his shenanigans over the years it would be no surprise. Who knows. There have been so many copycats at this point, I don't think even froosh himself can account for it all.

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don't (you) me nu-froosh you jerk I know its you

Feeling like shit lately. Every time I try to pick up the guitar and write something, nothing new comes out. I keep listening to mid-west emo stuff lately and I'm thinking this has something to do with it. I don't know, it feels easier to do something that I'm comfortable with and trying to be creative late just hasn't been working for the past few months. I keep thinking I'm a talentless hack but I know there's got to be some ideas knocking around there somewhere. I just changed my strings and I felt much better playing than I have recently so there's that. Any interesting chords you guys like to use that are "angular" sounding and in standard tuning?

I just had a band practice session today and had a heart to heart with everyone. Our drummer brought up how he felt like after 4 years of being together we haven't gotten much progress done, and that's true. He said he's lost the starry-eyed gaze that we had when we first started out and has become more realistic in his idea on where our band can go. Though he told us that he hasn't been putting in much effort in trying to get us shows and linking up with other local bands because of his job, he says he still loves playing with us and thinks we make better music now than we ever have before. Right now we're trying harder to book us some gigs and tomorrow we're going into the studio, but I'm extremely heartbroken because I feel like I'm chasing after something unrealistic and maybe I should quit while I'm ahead.

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>>74099577
>>tfw you fuck with weeb neets on 4chan
who would be so stupid to do this? if this is what really happened then this general got exactly what it deserved end of story

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>>74095629
If I want to install a tremelo on my tele, should I take it into a shop or just install it myself? How much do you think it would run me to have someone else do it?

>>74098394
goodnight zachy

>>74095629
What kind of banjo should I get? ($500ish)

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>>74095629
Don't forget to smile when you're having fun, Marty!

>>74100333
If you're planning a Kahler like pic related, and if you're somewhat confident with a router then it's only one hole you'd have to route on top. But I think with Kahlers it's preferred the neck be angled, but they were originally designed for Strat retrofits so you'll probably be fine. If you want a double-locking system, a Floyd nut is better, but it's not worth the work to retrofit one on a non-locking neck. The Kahler nuts are beyond easier to install, but I've seen them with varied success. Otherwise if you're not doing Kerry King wankery, you could look into locking tuners.

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Sup /gg/?
can you guys redpill me on the Epiphone Les Paul? Is it really just a kids toy compared to a gibson, or is it a guitar that's good within it's own right? the plus top pro, specifically.

pic related

>>74100993
Both brands are garbage,

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>>74100993
In addition, how would it compare to a G&L?

>>74101032
How so?

>>74101054
>How so?
Go to a store and play them instead of asking retarded questions that require you to go play them to understand.

>>74101095
best advice ever given in /gg/ right here

>>74101095
I've played one before, I was just asking general thoughts and ownership qualms, that aren't obvious at a store floor level

>>74081967
lol why didn't you help him /gg/

>>74101176
why should anyone?

>>74101174
it's an overpriced chink shitplank it doesn't matter what you buy if that's where your thinking is right now

>>74101210
good question what an idiot, right

>>74101095
thanks so much man i really appreciate your helpful input.

>>74101227
this is more the advice I was looking for, what would you suggest instead?

>>74101328
TIL froosh is Chad

>>74101266
you want a les paul? then go buy a les paul. fucking make it happen. get a second job. eat bologna sandwiches. sell blood

trust me if you can't make that happen you're not going to make anything else happen either

>>74101436
sounds good, but bologna sucks. maybe i can go sell a kidney somewhere and go straight to an R7

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>>74101262
>>74101266
I suggest you go try them and make your own decisions instead of asking strangers on the internet that may or may not know anything and cannot possibly articulate what is good or bad about what you may or may not be interested in with your stupid, vague posts.

tl;dr you're a moron and i'm trying to help you but you're a moron so you don't understand that

>>74101174
>that aren't obvious at a store floor level
They're shit, as I already said. Epiphone is trash, and Gibson hasn't been good for years unless you are buying their custom shop guitars, but that's how it is for Fender too with few exceptions.

I fucking hate you idiots that can't do your own research and get people to spoonfeed you, and then have the balls to deny the only real advice you'll get being >>74101095 as if you know better when you're asking in the first place.

You're an idiot, and fuck you.

>>74101471
you can get a nice 90s les paul classic for $1500. if you can't swing that within a few months then I don't know what the fuck you think your doing, playing music ain't no cheap ride at the county fair

>>74101473
I value the opinions of random ass people more than paid or biased online reviews and chad from the local store. I just want people with experience to help me understand flaws.

in regards to the last comment, I can't, i'm saving it for marriage.

>>74101567
give up then you're just wasting your time

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>>74101471
R0 BITCH I WILL FIGHT YOU

>>74101646
give up on what? sitting around waiting for people to help? yes, I have, but I sure as hell am not losing anything by trying.

>>74101686
but thats yui-bait

>>74101699
you either do or you do not
there is no try anon

>>74101473
you're a fucking asshole dude why are you so angry go outside or jerk off or something man jesus

>>74101724
Eh, waitings free, i can turn on some tv or something

>>74101739
>waiting's free
yeah it's not. by the time you realize it it'll be too late. believe it

>>74096469
>Gb3b5
I think you mean g diminished

>>74101732
that's just froosh. really mean but gives good advice

>>74101773
Ok kid

>>74101832
this is why you'll fail

>>74101832
said the failure.

redpill me on 12 string

>>74102131
Its a physical effect, pretty specific sound, bitch to tune, bitch to own. Cheap used, does its thing.

>>74102131
good for goth rock

Not sure if this is a good place to ask but do any of you play mandolas? What are they good for?

just got my paycheck

whats a good first pedal to get for bass

>>74097873
Lowering tone makes it sound less clear. The higher the tone, the sharper the sound.
Or something, fuck I don't know.

>>74102313
>he uses pedals or amplifiers
n e w
e
w

>>74100333
Get a fuckin Bigsby, brah.

>>74097873
If your guitar sounds shrill and hurts your earrs turn the tone down.

When people say to switch modes midsong are they really just saying to switch which note you're focusing on or can you switch to a different mode of the same root note somehow?

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>>74100993
>>74101473
This is /gg/ in a nutshell. You have lifers and then you have the newbs who aggravate the shit out of them with dumbass questions because they're just going through a "guitar" phase and aren't serious about it at all.

All this general has ever been is that back and fourth. We're all losers with no place better to be but there's a deep distinction between the two types of people who post here.

Pro tip: if you're wondering which category you fall into then you're a newb. Lifers don't come to a shithole like 4chan and ask retarded questions about gear or music.
>t.lifer
I only come here to shitpost. No way in hell would I ask these idiots anything if there was something I actually wanted to know. You'd be smart to do the same.

>>74099685
I was on yesterday wtf

>>74103063
I've asked some pretty niche questions on here and on leddit and the answers I've gotten here have always been better. Redditors know fuck all if it's not about some blueswank or pop bullshit.

>>74103093
>niche
Yeah, it was certainty some obvious shit anyone a year or two in would know. The fact that your two sources were Reddit and 4chan says it all.

>>74099907
lol

>>74103082
gonna have to see that gold k line senpai

>>74103140
It was about some odd effect being used by a Japanese band. Reddit recommended a bunch of completely unrelated pedals and someone on 4chan found one that sounded exactly like what I was looking for.

I've also asked some questions about wiring odd circuits and control layouts.

>>74103196
Nothing you mentioned is niche, tardy. If you weren't a lazy brain-dead little shit you wouldn't be asking about any of that.

>>74103250
Okay Roman.

>>74103286
>I asked Reddit and they said..
>I asked 4chan and they said..
This is you.

>>74103329
We get it Roman, you're a cunt to everyone and their dog.

>>74103362
I was a cunt to your mom last night

>>74103384
Classic Roman.

epic
nice
I like it
4chan
not your personal hugbox

will the timbre of my voice get more pleasing as i get better at singing?

>>74103401
Muddy Waters the fist time he heard a recording of himself:
>Damn, I can sang cain't I?
If this wasn't your experience then you probably need to hang it up.

The world will always need another ditch digger ;^)

>>74103451
thanks
ill probably just focus on my mcdonalds career

>>74096685
Severely underrated kek

>>74103856
lol

>>74104424
is that a girl

what does it mean to "play a guitar"?

Some people say to me they "dont play the guitar" but can play a couple of songs on the guitar

well isnt that playing the guitar?

>>74104965
I watched Thurston Moore beat on a guitar with a drumstick once. The show wasn't a Sonic Youth show it was just some bullshit experimental stuff he was pulling out his ass. People paid to get in.

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>>74101176
Sounds kinda like

1x2210 (FMaj7)

x35050 (C)

1x2210 (FMaj7)

x13030 (Bb6)

x02020 (A7)

to me

>>74096157
Double truss, stainless frets.

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>>74105791
Oh and the verse sounds to me like

1x2210 (FMaj7)

x02020 (A7)

1x2210 (FMaj7)

x02020 (A7)

x1323x (BbMaj7)

x1312x (Bm7)

1x2210 (FMaj7)

x02030 (A7sus4)

x02020 (A7)

>>74105944
>x1312x (Bm7)

Oops, that should say "Bbm7" rather. MY BAD DUDE

>>74103063
See
>>74105791
>>74105944
>>74105969

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>>74096469
>Gb3b5 Eb3b5

>>74101797
This

>>74095629
I'm kinda just looking for a used cheapo steel string acoustic guitar, but I found a Framus Sorella 5/59 archtop guitar here locally for 340 bucks.... Also, what brands should I maybe look for when I want a cheapo steelstring acoustic that doesn't suck balls?

>>74100070
chill lol

>>74100070
Can you list some of these mid-west emo bands/artists?

>>74100070
>Any interesting chords you guys like to use that are "angular" sounding and in standard tuning?

>angular

Try any chord forms that use stacked 4ths or 5ths.

Like

xx3333

xx3335

xx5566

xx8788

579xxx

357xxx

x357xx

>>74106197
Opinions on a Seagull S6 coastline spruce?

>>74106306
It's an ideal choice for players who prefer a mix of the brighter sound of a Select Solid Spruce top with the mellower tones of wild cherry back & sides.

>>74106690
*clap* *clap* clap*
very funny.
What's the opinion on seagull in general?

>>74106197
>>74106306
>>74106712
I went through literally all the classifieds for used acoustic guitars where I live, a bunch of Yamahas, 2 Fender acoustics, a ton of crap and the Framus archtop for 340 and the Seagull S6 for 320. Those 2 seemed the most interesting. Any opinions or ideas? Not sure if buying an archtop is stupid if I actually want a "normal" steelstring acoustic, the seagull seems very interesting. Either way I'll try to haggle both of them down in price.

WHO ELSE /JOYO/

>>74098807
only fags use tactics that make it ''''easier'''' to play to the expense of attack in sound

>>74099142
super distortion or 57

>>74106229
Snowing, Algernon cadwallader, Dikembe, oh my god elephant

>>74097873
its a treble filter
a low pass, if you will

who here /alien amps/

>>74102313
I've heard octave pedal is a good start

Who here /Condor/

>>74107697
I have an axcess man!
Killer tone and it's so easy to play up on the 36th fret!

>>74102313
Depends on what music you play. Fuzz, drive, octave, envelope filter and compressor are all good options

>first time opening a /gg/ thread
>it's pure concentrated autism just like the rest of this website
I don't know why I was expecting something different

[chorus]
tell me where you drivin
midnight cruiser

>>74102313
The Miku pedal

>>74106768
Does 250 for the Seagull sound good? Too low? Too high?

>>74108560
Looks good to me.

>>74108709
I asked for 220, hopefully that doesn't piss her off.

do these vocals sound like they were pitched down or somethin

https://clyp.it/xgsxmhb3

>>74108738
Um, you shave off the extra in person after looking at the guitar. She might just put you on hold while other offers come in. Good luck, tho.

>>74108760
They sound like you should find a new vocalist

>>74109053
can u sing

>>74109100
Just about anyone can sing better than that

>>74109005
I really hate haggling, especially in person. I answered with 250 and "I'll drive over there and pick it up as well", this shit annoys me.

>>74109108
nah, not everybody can sing in tune

Guise I got a chinese guitar that reads "7eender" on the headstock, plan on loading dimarzios on it for the kicks.
Any suggestions?

>>74109539
Haha, pix! Now!

>>74109539
Spelling the stylized F in Fender as a 7 is pretty funny in german. It's related to deer. Call it Hirsch, which is deer in german.

Besides that, just for fun or as a legitimate modding platform?

>>74095629
I'm seeing the first boss katana amps showing up used. Have people started to figure out that they're shit?

>OP pic
I thought it was Messi playing guitar

>>74109539
Fuck off. Samuel

>>74109837
That's a shaky claim, anon :^)

>>74110155
Not really. I'm at the park in sun's rays so it's hard to see my screen.

Been learning to play guitar for a few weeks now, but so far I've played my electric guitar acoustically.
Rec me an amp for home use (not too loud cause I do have housemates that I don't want to annoy too much). Preferably with some effects so I can play around with sounds.

Which guitar should I get that isn't a meme or pleb shit ?

>>74110765
No. Stop being a retard and do at least a bit of fucking research on your own you fucking child.

>>74111010
playing guitar is concentrated meme and plebe shit you don't have that option anon

>>74110765
Get a cheap digital combo, like a Mustang GT or Line 6 or some shit like that. You can basically play them at any level (or headphones) and they're going to sound the same, unlike tube amps.

Gear snobs justifiably shit on them, because they are not something you should consider gigging/recording with (unless you specifically want a fake sound or are super lazy/broke/&c.), BUT they are a decent, cheap intro to the wide variety of guitar sounds you can get through different amp styles and effects.

From there you can branch out into "real gear" with a sense of what you're looking for, instead of just buying blind.

>>74111010
The fact that you worry about "meme or pleb shit" is meme and pleb shit in its own right. There's no escape.

>>74111074
I did do my research. Have been doing so for weeks. There's so much choice and no clear winner, I don't even know anymore.
Was thinking about a Micro Cube GX. But 3W seems very, very little and for only €85 more I'd have a Katana 50 which is in a whole different league. But then I'd be into €200 territory which is more than I intend to spend on a first amp that's just for practice when I don't even know what sound I want yet.

So I figured I'd just ask here.

>>74111329
Go to GC, try them out no one here can tell which one you like more.

>>74111280
Shit. Is a Jazzmaster a none meme choice ?

>>74111451
I'm not a burger. The only guitar store near me has a very limited selection of amps.

>>74111554
buy a burger instead then

>>74111478
Jazzmaster is one of the biggest memes.

>>74111554

Nigger, you literally have to live in africa to not have a resonable big music store in your area. Even then there's fucking youtube.

>>74111855
>tfw live in africa

>>74102131
>>74102212
takes a little longer to tune but not that hard.
you can tune them to standard but it's not recommended to store it like that.

I keep mine tuned at a whole step down.
if i wanna play in standard,i use a capo on second fret. but you'll need a 12 string capo

>>74095629
Anyone got an alternate link for the Guthrie Govan package? The 2nd link was fine, but I'm not able to extract more than a couple of pages out of the first pack.

>>74112227
Update: Just downloaded the entire pdf off libgen, so I'm only in need of the mp3s. I"ll try soulseek and check back.

Yeah, they've got it there too, so I'm good. Thanks anyway. might want to update the first link if anyone else is having similar problems.

im gittin gud at spider exercises gg am i going to make it?

What's the heaviest gauge I could realistically use for a low B string?

>>74112443
spider exercises?

>>74112495
yeah chromatic exercises 1234 1234 etc

https://clyp.it/fc0nnqmr
just finished recording the vocals
backings arent processed yet except for a gate and hi pass

>>74112016

If you live in africa you have bigger problems than playing the guitar.

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Reminder that this is the girl you marry.

Shectercucks and Nu-teles need not apply.

>>74113027
Already married the fat bottomed sister. My black explorer. Back pain be damned.

>>74113027
I want a divorce.

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>explorer
>fat

Son...

>>74113253
Thick arse, rest of it slim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPuTPyEHPcY

Post obscure covers that are better than the original

>>74113297
>it ain't me starts playing

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>>74113272

>arms
>slim

>>74113297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkFQGCdUVZ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzLJODadEGA

>>74113297
can't think of one because i'm depressed and dont enjoy watching covers anymore

For any jazz dudes out there, on a ii V I do you put in a couple of altered tones from the V'alt into your ii licks? Just recently started learning jazz guitar and sticking with the notes in a chord for a ii V I w/ occasional chord extensions just sounds...like it's lacking something.

>>74111855
I live in Florida and there are almost no music stores here at all in some areas. Across the panhandle there's not a single big music store any more

>>74114127
First of all, I'm curious what you mean by "licks," because for me a lick is a phrase/soloing idea that's practiced rather than improvised. So in a jazz context, a soloist playing "licks" basically means there's very little in ways of improvisation.

Second, V's (and other chords functioning in a dominant manner) are probably the most "appropriate" play to insert altered/outside ideas, but by no means the only. You basically can make alterations/substitutions anywhere, and the preference for doing that varies from player to player.

I would suggest experimenting with it in as many variations you can think of, and studying other musicians solos to get a sense of their preferences. Right now it sounds like you're boxing yourself in a little to tight and methodically for the sake of being "correct."

>>74114591
I guess I didn't really mean "licks" in that sense, more just whatever comes out of soloing over a ii V I.

It's just that whenever I see a tutorial about single-note soloing over a ii V I (or about soloing in general), the tutorial usually says something along the lines of "we'll just play through the root, third, and fifth--and hey, let's add a 9 in there and put in an approach tone in the beginning to spice things up" and it actually sounds interesting.

But when I try to improvise solo over a ii V I backing track with these things in mind, I just end up sounding...bland, I guess would be the best description. If I'm improvising over a ii V I in C major, on the ii I'll just do a quick C-D approach and then F A E D to mix things up, but it's still lacking something that other soloists seem to have.

From the terminology I've heard so far, it always sounds like I'm playing "inside." I'd like to be playing more "outside," but even with the altered scale I'm still sounding a bit inside. I'll try out different modes and whatnot and experiment. Cheers.

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Does anybody else give themselves chills when they play or am I just a narcissistic douchebag.

>>74114867
I get leg spasms but yeah you probably are a fag

>>74114855
post the videos youre talkin about

>>74114867
no i enjoy playing too

>>74114569
Guitar Center in Tallahassee. It sucks through.

>>74114980
shore

I mostly stick with Jeff Schneider for music theory and soloing stuff. This video is pretty much describing what I'm trying to achieve: a balance of playing inside and outside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGwwKhNCIm4&t=75s

In terms of what I think is the ideal "outside" sound I'm trying to replicate to some degree, Yussef Kamaal has a guitarist that solos brilliantly. Hopefully I linked the right time in the video, this is a long performance:

https://youtu.be/AvFwjUZSkzg?t=30m47s

There are other points in the video where his solos are a bit faster, but I can't find them. This is the only one I could find offhand.

>>74114855
>I guess I didn't really mean "licks" in that sense, more just whatever comes out of soloing over a ii V I.
I kind of figured, but I have also met people who tend to rely on stock licks a little too much when they're "improvising."

Anyways, don't be discouraged if things feel bland or forced in early stages, you're simply at a point where you're still getting a grasp on the ideas. It takes a long time to internalize this kind of stuff (and it's a perpetual work in progress).

On another note, I think there's merit in "methodical" outside ideas (studying specific scales, substitutions, etc.), but also play around with a sense of "freeness" that isn't simply going into the "proper" altered techniques. Do weird, unmethodical shit that you can't explain and see what happens. Doing that can take you to some interesting places. That cheesy old jazz quote "learn everything and then forget it" has a lot of truth to it.

>>74114855
Try to play fewer notes and play a complete melody over several progressions rather than just separate "licks" on every chord. I have had the same problem with my Jazz soloing sounding pretty "corny" and a good piece of advice is to listen to some basic swing guys like Wes, Charlie Parker and even Django Reinhardt to get a good feel for the style. Soloing over basic 2 5 1s wont sound very contemporary or modern because its really not very contemporary harmony

>>74115127
i swear to god there are better solos in there

shit what have a i done

>>74114867
Well, i can't recall goosebumps right now but I can say I kinda got into a ""trance"" with some repetitive loud rythm with guitar

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any recs for albums similar to this?

other than his 2nd of course

thanks in advance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUnRQhDFnuE

>>74109159
lol?

>>74109005
>>74109116
That was fucking annoying, but 250 for the Seagull is what we settled on. My first proper acoustic.

>>74115248
Maybe some Eberhard weber?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsGTDKmxYQ

>>74115315
You beat Reverb prices, as far as I know, so ya did good.

>>74115454
thanks man

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Is my guitar posture shit? Have been playing for two months, thought I was getting along swimmingly, have learnt about 30 songs with some up to eight chords which I think is not bad for an adult learner, but I am really fucking struggling with the f barre chord. I need to be able to play it for the type of music I like.

I realised that I was holding the neck tilted away from me as in the pic, I find this most comfortable for my left wrist but I suspect this might be holding me back a bit? My fat bastard belly doesn't help. Anyone else play like this and does your performance suffer as a result?

>>74114127
Usually V7alt sounds better when leading into a minor chord, like in a minor ii V i.

Like, play Am7b5, Dalt, Gm7.

People play Altered chords and licks and shit on V7's resolving to major chords, as well, but it's not as common and it usually doesn't sound as good in my opinion.

You should learn to play the Altered Scale (Also called the Super Locrian Scale and the 7th Mode of the Melodic Minor Scale) and dick around with that on altered dominant chords.

A really easy cheat way to get a similar effect as the Altered Scale is to play a Minor Pentatonic Scale on the Tonic minor chord of the key, but move the root notes down a half step.

Say you have a 2 chord jam going with 2 bars of Am7 and 2 bars of E7(alt), just going back and forth. You can jam in A Minor Pentatonic on the Am7 chord, then when the E7(alt) comes, just keep jamming A Minor Pentatonic but drop the root note down a half step to Ab instead of A.


So that covers the V i change, now just tack on a Bm7b5 at the beginning for your minor ii V i progression and you get some shit like this.

https://clyp.it/zhaupxuj

idk how to solo on a m7b5 chord to great cause I'm a little pussy so I just play the arpeggio.

>>74115479
I can't find this exact model on reverb but yeah, that and they're actually more expensive in europe.

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>>74115653
>30 songs
>2 months
>beginner

>>74115653
You can cheat and play an F chord that isn't a pure major chord and isn't barred.

>Sarah Longfield is replying to me again on snapchat
WHEN WILL SHE BE MY GF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>74116012
L.O.L.

>>74115867
Not sure if you are implying that I am bullshitting or that my progress is too slow. Either way I am fairly pleased with how I am getting on, I am 28 and play no other musical instruments.

>>74115902
Thanks, I know, but I am still curious if my posture is bad and if that is what is causing problems. Should the guitar neck and body be straight or is it find to have the neck outwards?

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Any opinions appreciated.

My friend bought a 3D grand auditorium Michael Kelly guitar but after a week in a half regretted it. Now he's offering it to me for 540 with case, tuner, and shubb capo. Is it worth or should I just decline? Pic related.

>>74116020
sarah pls

>>74116012
send her a dick pic

>>74115653
most people i see use the neck tilted away like pic

>>74116012
who is that

>>74116157
nah man, that's not a deal at all...

>>74116222
Why do you say that? Genuinely curious, I was thinking it would be worth it because I save 100 on the case and some more on the extra stuff he's giving me. The guitar itself is 500.

>>74116204
Ok cheers, was just a bit paranoid then. Will keep trying the f barre chord, I think I am finding it a nightmare as it's been the first major hurdle for me.

>>74116429
experiment with the placement of the index finger to get the bones over the strings youre tryng to press... while you still cant bar all strings

you can also just press the 2 top strings and leave the low e
or do that and press the low e with your thumb

>>74095629
Do any of you guys use a proper loop station? I rarely play with people but I really enjoy creating these loops with my simple 1 button looper. But I do feel that it's a bit limiting at times.

Anyway, what features should I look for? Or are there programs where I can just use my computer (I have an audio interface) as a looping station?

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>>74116474
I actually finally found a video that explained it well (Andy Guitar) and managed to barre all the chords on the first fret easily using a pincer shape with index finger straight rather than curved. Need to work on stretching the other fingers now but getting there at least. Also switching to light strings next time I change them, using medium gauge just now so that probably isn't doing me any favours.

>>74115315
Just noticed your post. I got a Seagull Entourage Mini Jumbo last month for £280 as my first acoustic (pic related), I absolutely love it and it was at a steal of a price. I am going to try and stick with it for a while and make my upgrade something very substantial a few years down the line, an all solid wood Martin or Gibson most likely.

>>74116918
get a proper band fucking nerd weirdo

>>74116987
nah

>>74116984
Oh neat, yeah mine will be a coastline s6 spruce, apparently coastline means that the rop is pressure tested (whatever that means), and the S6 is just their take on the dreadnought, which is fine by me. I also really like their headstock design and the wider nut, pretty pumped to pick this up in the next few days. Oh and I never really mentioned, 250€ here in mainland europe, new it costs 500+ from what I could tell, 600+ for the one with the pickup. I kinda would have preferred something with a cutaway but this is literally my only complaint.

is this gud enoff to start doing lessons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfutKZijcbU

>>74116918
If you have an interface, get a DAW, record whatever play it on loop and play over it

>>74117110
I know that this would work but I'm kinda looking for a "1 button" solution specifically for looping, the only audio recording software that I got used to was audacity, lol.

>>74117110
>>74117142
and I just checked, audacity literally can't do that.

everybody watch out for the new pinnacle of bedroom reaper productions
https://clyp.it/c5gjat0n

>>74117194
audacity can loop stuff just hold shift while clicking play or pressing space

>>74117208
yes but you can't record over it while it's looping, that's literally not possible.

>>74117070
Definitely got a great price on that and should sound and look great. Will have a solid spruce top which gives it a very desirable aesthetic and sound. Uses laminate cherry sides like most Seagull guitars but it looks good and is apparently a very high quality laminate. The select pressure tested thing just means that it is a decent grade wood as far as I know.

My guitar was exchanged but had been practically unused, normally goes for £430 - £450. Has a solid cedar top, provides a warm sound and looks great in sunburst. Also smells lovely! ;)

>>74117222
ah yeah, true, its not possible
download reaper, its easy to learn, same thing as audacity

>>74117286
I found something that seems to work, ambiloop.
Doesn't reaper cost money after the trial period? Or did I misunderstand something there?

>>74117726
you can still use the program after the trial period, just the nag screen makes you wait longer. it's only $60 and your license is good for this and the next major version. I'd probably wait a minute on buying, reaper 6 might be coming pretty soon.

>>74117267
Cool, thanks for the info. Laminated sides and back don't bother me too much. Any tips what I should look for when I check the guitar out? The seller is saying it's in great condition, but of course he'd say that. Obviously I'll look for any cracks or shrinkage in the wood, I'll check the action, intonation and the trussrod, what else?

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Is there any place where I can buy a mustang body just like this?

have there been any Chinese knockoff versions of the e-bow?

>>74118257
nah i dont think you can find these molecules elsewhere

>>74118377
Aww, looks like I'm going to have to carve one myself then.

>>74118218
Sounds like you know what you are doing. For that price a few minor scratches or tiny dents to the body and headstock would be fair enough, I wouldn't even bother haggling to be honest as you won't find better at that cost assuming the guitar is as described.

>>74118452
I don't haggle in person, especially not when we decided on a price beforehand. I just want to be able to spot any major issues that it might have, something that would make me not buy it at all. But I guess those should be obvious.

>>74118257
https://www.rosserguitars.com/guitar-bodies/m-model

Ask him to skip the pickup routing

Just got an USA strat from the serial number would be 2009 for 300 bucks fuck yeah

>>74118798
Pix or it didn't happen, brah!

>>74099142
PAF is all you need.

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>>74118854
I'm definitely digging the hot rail pickups, higher output than the original pickups

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>>74118965

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>>74118983

>>74118681
Thanks man

>>74118965
Nice! I'm digging the cherry burst. $300 is insane... What's the back story?

>>74119014
Haha, clean them knobs. Some dirty-handed guitarist got all over them.

i bet you cant tell which amps are these
https://clyp.it/axzuge4a

>>74119187
Thanks man! I'm really loving the cherry burst too hadn't seen it irl before this one actually

The backstory is that I work in a small mom and pop music store and one of the teachers had a roommate that left the country and had to leave the guitar behind, came into work and asked 300 for it. Honestly I wasn't looking for a guitar but that price I figured fuck it

>>74119242
Haha yeah thats the next thing I need to do, changed strings, cleaned up the rest of it I just forgot the knobs actually

>>74119329
For that price, I would even buy a Les Paul!

>>74119562
die

>>74119245
SDM45?

>>74119589
Kek

>>74099142
Dimarzio Transition
Lace Hot Gold Duallys
Seymour Duncan Custom Custom
Mojotone PW Hornet

>>74099142
Look into Dimarzios. I'm thinking about putting a Tone Zone as a bridge.

>>74120610
I put a tone zone DP155 in the bridge position on my Yamaha pacifica, great pickup honestly.

>>74103286
>>74103362
that's not roman because i'm roman

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$10K+

>tfw if you wanted to just play in bands you should have been a drummer

>>74121081
NO I'M ROMAN

>>74121178
lmao

>>74114867
I get numb in my neck and legs, but that's due to fucked back.

>>74122845
>tfw permanently tweaked by a Les Paul
shoulda chose saxophone

>>74115653
>but I am really fucking struggling with the f barre chord
Everybody struggles with barre chords, it's just finger strength at first, then figuring out exactly how much strength to use in order to not cramp up over long periods of playing.

Keep at it, do small adjustments to the angle of your fingers.

t. some asshole with arthritis in the fingers.

>>74122871
Wasn't the guitar that fucked me over, but disc prolapse, OA and the start of stenosis doesn't help.
I bought a Yamaha APX recently, it's comfy as fuck to play since it doesn't weigh much at all.

>tfw Jimi Hendrix didn't need barre chords and neither do I

>>74122912
Jimi used his fucking thumb and triads since he had huge ass hands. The end result is the same.

>>74122845
>>74122871
>>74122873
>>74122902
>old
kek

>>74122938
Middle age will happen to you too.

>>74122927
>buy mini squire
>instant hendrix hands
smart as hell

>>74122950
not necessarily

how the fuck do i find people to play with? i just want to do some noise with some people but i cannot find anyone that wants to play the kind of stuff i want to do. am i just too autist?

>>74123083
I didn't expect to live to the age of 30 either. We can't all go out in a blaze of vomit at 27.

>>74123090
Local music shop is a good start. They're usually run by musicians and the customers are most certainly musicians.

>>74123103
all plebe normie shitstains desu

>>74123092
it took me like 10 minutes to spell necessarily right senpai

>>74123126
Then I'm afraid you'll have to suffer alone with your autism.

>>74095886
just mod a valve jr

>>74123151
there must be more like me
what can I put in someones drink to cause autism

>>74123151
k that guy's not even me but what do when i dont even purchase music lmao

>>74123171
Give them a vaccination?

>>74123183
Instrument shop is what I meant. I'm gonna assume you buy instruments and strings and shit like that from time to time.

>>74123183
you want to play dave matthews and jack johnsons anon

>>74123199
already work at one, i found out that most customers that wanna jam are awful, and i'm not even that great

>>74123214
Then how about sucking together until you all sound better? That's how bands start.

>>74123207
fuck yeah man, my pedalboard is made for that shit

>>74123227
you play any ukulele or wear cargo shorts

>>74123222
honestly it ends up being really annoying people that dont really know basic theory and chord shapes so you cant really even teach them some songs

>>74123235
it's pretty chilly so i stick with cargo pants but yeah i play some uke here and there

>>74123247
awww sick you like heineken bruh

>>74121498
lol this poor guy over here

>page 9
r.i.p. in peace /gg/

>>74123272
Pabst blue ribbon senpai

>>74123729
>>74123729
>>74123729