/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

>>74074174
Should I get an acoustic guitar? I kinda want something with a wider nut, but I just can't find an electric that does that. That and strumming chords just sounds so much better on an acoustic.

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The Flying V is the girl you marry of guitars.

>>74074247
>Should I get an acoustic guitar?
Yes. go for it

>>74074247
>sounds so much better
Go for it!

>>74074262
Her legs are always open for anyone to see. I need a more modest wife.

>>74074273
>>74074274
Any recommendations when it comes to steel strings with a wider nut/string spacing? What I found in the affordable range was Baton Rouge, not sure what to think of them.

to buy a tele or pay bills
hmm

What does /mu/ think of frankenstein guitars? Theres a Telecaster body from Squier that I like because of the color, but I want to put in a Fender neck because I want a maple fretboard, not rosewood.

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>>74074307
Buckethead uses or used this Takamine EAN40C guitar and he has big hands so...

>>74074498
standard nut width, 42.5mm as far as I could tell.

>>74074174
did that linking park faggot that offed himself play guitar?

Anyone got any recommendations for a good acoustic guitar for less than 300 euros?
I've tried one of these and was really pleased but I want more opinions on this

https://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_cd_60sce_blk.htm

Can anyone help me recognize the song tab by the sound?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3U3ivanUyA

someone give me money to fix my gutars' nut
no possibility of you getting doxxed

>>74074961
also am willing to pay with youtube videos or whatever

>tfw such harmony changes and off chords
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue7gZnVAcVA

>>74075034
how to understand it

>>74075034
queen sucks so fucking much

>>74075295
i think the opposite, theyre great

>calluses
why right hand caluses build up nice and thick while playing bass but left hand is always peeling off (with both bass and guitar)

>>74074575
Looks like you're stuck with the BR then.

>>74074876
>linking park faggot
I'm Linkin the Linking Park faggot who played guitar and is still alive: >>74066311

Is sam still here?

>>74075500
yes hello

>>74074940
that would take forever to tab out my dude

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>>74075500
>>74075535
present and needing a nut

>>74074961
>>74074977
If you can acquire some Sopa De Macaco I will send you the money, no joke.

>>74075564
Sorry i haven't got the money to you. I got put on 7/12s at work and 3 of my bands hit busy season so I'm either doing rehearsals or gigs in the afternoon. I'll get it as soon as the chaos ends. I had to start paying someone to mow my grass cause I'm obly home to sleep. We just got evacuated out of the plant so I have some free time. Did the condor ever yellow?

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>>74075638
we dont have much monkeys nearby like in rio de janeiro

>>74075700
damn your money is hard earned, i wont ask for it anymore
it didnt yellow even slightly, but i only did it for one week

>>74075784
You never asked for it brother, you said you didn't have the money for one and I offered help. Just cause I earned it don't mean I spent it. The bands don't get much, I get like $110 to $300 a gig depending on the siatuation. We get a lot of grad parties and weddings this time of year, around August it slows down a lot til late september. I'm only doing ridiculous hours at work cause we lost 5 guys to a different energy company. Things will slow down. If we loved a bit closer i'd just make you a new nut, I'm about to buy the files off StewMac once I actually get a chance to use them. Brasil is a little bit too far from the midwest for that though.

>>74075784
Why do you need a new nut? Strings are too low to the first fret?

>>74075934
>If we loved a bit closer i'd just make you a new nut

nigga that's gay
even for /gg/

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>>74075934
You need a name so I can ask for you. Choose one.
>>74059555
I'm not sure what you want here. I'm not going to reveal my identity. If I sent you money the envelope isn't going to have a return address.

>>74075564
it's pretty obvious that the problem isn't the nut, but your headstock/neck junction

wood is absorbing humidity, it's bending and there's a gap between the nut and its original placement

>>74076096
no one asked you retard

>>74076072
>hes using his persona to create a third one

>>74076134
>third
lmao lurk moar bamby

Opinions on American Professional Stratocasters VS Mexican standards?

>>74076131
get your shit straight caralho

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>>74074305
Severely underrated

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>>74076059
Honestly, I laughed real hard when I proof read what said after posting(typical guitar player logic) and laughed hard, glad you caught it.

>>74076072
Call me trick trick, inspectah deck, i dont know. You pick something. Call me shitposter even...pic related.

I gotta monitor plant radio to tell everyone if it's ok to go back in or move to the half mile area so it's going to take me a minute to respond, everytime someone talks I have to listen.

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Samuel, I'm going out to get wasted now.

Here it is: post a pic of your Les Paul with an address clearly written on a piece of paper and I'll send a money order to the address. I'll post pics here so you can see when it's coming.

Then understand I don't care what happens to it after I put it into the mail but if it does arrive I'd like you to post pics of you opening the letter.

If you get it, cool. If not who gives a shit. If you want the money just post the pic and I'll send it.

>crazygaga ban is over
>he's not coming here anymore

what have we done

>>74076403
;^)

>>74075934
>midwest
Like israel specifically, crazyaga?

>>74076402
WHATS UP ROAMZ? Missed you brother, you back at home finally?

>>74076390
yeah

>>74076441
that's middle east, you dipshit
americans

>>74076441
Both look war torn, at least my city does.

>>74076441
kek roman drove this cuck insane

>>74076402
This is stale pasta.

>>74076403
>not coming here
Did you even read the thread before ppsting?

>>74076651
>ppsting
Irony.

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>>74075934
cool man
thanks i guess

>>74076025
yeah. but the A string only. cant get the open string not to buzz unles i play it real lightly, almost like just touching it

>>74076072
>>74076402
ok man

is it clear on the pic?
rua hilda da costa, nº 191
cep 55590000
bairro: centro
cidade: ipojuca
estado: pernambuco
país: brasil

receiver: samuel campos faria or gabriel albuquerque/ferreira/silva (im not sure whats his surname)

>>74076720
You can easily fix that with some super glue and bone dust or baking soda. For the "file" you can use your A string wrapped in sandpaper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slCMkvEfK_U

>>74076720
I'm not Froosh. I saved the pic though. Do you have a paypal?

>>74076795
no but can make one

>>74076810
Let me look in to it. You might need a bank account to recieve it then, so if you don't have one it'll be useless. I've had my paypal for 8 years but I want to say it took a week to acknowledge my bank account.

>>74076904
But, like I said last time we talked, I have no idea how banking in Brazil works.

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god damn the favela jokes weren't a meme.

>>74076945
rude desu

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Why shouldn't I buy a used Gibson SG?

>>74077029
neck whip

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>>74077002
I think it's pretty cool actually, in a post-apocalyptic kind of way. Is there a lot of crime there? I would feel uncomfortable with so many houses crammed so close together.

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>>74077082
Explain.

>>74077029
Outside of the typical reasons that you would choose to not buy a used instrument? None.

>>74077029
you're buying guitars
because
of
anime
arent
you

whats easier to learn how to play, guitar or piano?

>>74077376
there's no such thing as "easy" of "hard"

I find myself comfortable with both
I play piano since i was a kid and then started playing bass and guitar, for me guitar was "harder"

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>>74077351
Not this time.

How can I tell if I'm strumming/picking too hard with my electric? I get fret buzz the way I've been playing, but I don't if I play much softer. But I have to increase the gain to compensate

I can't find tabs/sheet music for some songs I wanna learn and I have absolutely no talent in learning by ear. Where the can I get tabs or sheet music for shit I can't find immediately by my retarded-ass self? Do I just look for more sites?

>>74077727
You wanna be able to pick/strum hard enough without buzz.

>>74076720
who's this ugly fuck?

where do you buy parts? anybody thrown together a custom build?

>>74077843
provided the song is there you can go to a site called customsforge where people upload their own tabbed songs for rocksmith.
if it's there, download the psarc file and use the program rocksmith to tab to convert it to tab/sheet music.
pretty okay alternative
start training your ear though

>>74078003
Ohhh dope I'll try that out. Cheers!

>>74078064
ignition(.)customsforge(.)com

>>74077727
It's only a problem if you can hear the buzz through a loud amp.

>>74076720
The desperation in those eyes. It's kinda sad to see someone dox themself for nothing more than a promise. I do hope it works out but "pose beside headstock" could possibly be the new "shoe on head."

>MIM
disgusting.jpg

>>74076720
>amicoolyet

>>74078264
>he dosent know samuel
hi newfag

why is rosewood so fucking trash

>>74078419
cause it hung around with your mom too much

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You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>74078404
>he doesn't know who's sending the money
hi, sucker

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>>74078466
No, this is what peak performance looked like. It'll take decades for someone else to reach it

>>74078562
who? froosh?

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>mfw someone "just bought their first gibson"

>>74078623
>froosh?
How did you lose track of the thread so quickly? C'mon, man. The picture is a year old. If you were sending money and you wanted me to dox myself, I would make you time stamp a snapshot at least. (You gonna keep fishing?)

>>74077158
crime is so bad in rio favelas that cops don't go in them. and brazilian cops are basically heavily armed SWAT who are very trigger happy

>>74078366
lol well /gg/?

>>74078891
ha ha ha ok dumass

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>>74078971
>dumass
it's spelled with one s, moran

>>74079036
I spelled your mom with one s last night

>>74079083
I fucked your dad.

>>74079119
lel ur uh faggot

>>74079148
>being the son of not one but 2(two) faggots
a new low for roman

>>74079148
Me and your dad, both. He told me that he used to sneak into your bedroom when you were young.

High end modeling > Tubes > Solidstates > modeling amps

fight me

>>74077727
>>74077906
yeah but only to an extent. one can prefer strumming harder and having a higher action so it doesnt buzz

>>74079172
?
>>74079221
ha ha ha so gay

Suhr>Carvin>Fender>Ibanez>Yamaha>Peavy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>POWER GAP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gibshit

condor>gibson>fender>>>>>>>>>>>>>your moms asshole>>>>>>>>>>>>ibenezes and jacksons and prs

>when you go to your band's reharsal only to find out its actually next week

is samuel here right now?

>>74079461
hello anon-kun

>>74079319
What high-end modeling amp(s) sound better than tubes?

>>74079461
>>74079485
kys

>>74079523
watch you homo
>>74079485
samuel post a pic of yourself doing an ok symbol with one hand and shooting a bird with the other one

>>74079319
The average population doesn't care if it's real guitar or a keyboard synth. Why does it matter?

>>74079565
what is to shot a bird

>>74079588
Throw yo middle mthafuckin finga up 1!1!1!1!1!1

>>74079588
give the finger with your left hand and ok with your right

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>>74079628
what does it mean to do both at the same time

>>74079643
it will be a meme

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In western culture this means "fuck you"

>>74079663
ill do the ok but like an asshole

>>74079725
do two oks then

>>74079807
top fucking kek this is is a man with nothing to lose

>>74079848
what did i do

>>74079807
>those twig arms
hit the gym twinkboi

>>74079869
just got paid

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>>74079777
ok mr trips

>>74079887
not gettin it

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>>74079914
you will

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>>74079455
>when your band only practises once a week

>>74079565
>shooting a bird
Flipping the bird. Flipping someone off.

>>74079807
Haha, fuck white power movement.

samuel = best poster /gg/

>when that last 21 posts have nothing to do with guitar or bass

>>74078721
>>74077829
lol there they go

>>74072389

>>74080076
>when you had both hands up and both shoes off but still had to make a mark on the wall
;___;

>>74079522
Fractal/Helix/Kemper but there is no power amp they are pre amps.

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>tfw crazygaga wants some attention so bad

Bringing the discussion back to guitar stuff a bit...

I recently played through the most perfect amp I've ever heard: a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe. I mostly play single-coil guitars like Strats, and every single guitar I've played through that amp sounds AMAZING. I don't know what it is about the Hot Rod amps in particular, but they give every note so much character. I think what I love most about it is the amp's natural distortion: it breaks up in this very Hendrix-ish way. My Egnater head sounds incredibly sterile in comparison.

>>74080157
Idk, I've played through an Axe-FX before and while I think it's great for a more modern high-gain sound, it doesn't have that "bite" that some tube amps have.

>>74080316
cool brah

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>>74079807
>>74079914

modern fender amps look cheap
tweed amps look and sound awesome

>>74079938
>>74080406
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║░▒║with this blade
║░▒║i cut those who
║░▒║disrespect
║░▒║samuel
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>>74080406
>>74080406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phyqYbmiWUo

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>>74080529

>>74080554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phyqYbmiWUo

>>74080529
>>74080596
imagine being this upset ;^)

>>74079469
>>74080194
....eh?
>>74080151
is this guy the gibson poster?

>>74074174
Thats that fag from green day

>>74081495
lol we got a hot one over here

Any bass players wanna convince me on learning it?

>>74081666
no satan

>>74077029
They're not exactly balanced. They're great to play once you manage to balance out that fucking strap button. 90% of SG repairs is cracked/broken headstock from it sliding down and hitting the floor.

>>74080044
spelt it wrong dummy

>>74076072
wow nice picture of a faggot

>>74081831
I wowed your mom with a nice picture of a faggot last night

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>>74078602
>holdsworth
>peak performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ6lSYVsw6U

>>74082251
>ass methweenie
Not even close, queefshart.

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To learn scales do I memorize scale patterns & the root notes of the pattern then apply that?

I've been doing this lately but I want to know if I missing out on anything by doing this

>>74074273
>crazyaga
I'm surprised you're back after you were BTFO so hard in the guitar duel.

That kind of devastation takes month to heal.

>>74083263
Sure, but you should also know the intervals that make up the scale, don't just blindly learn shapes and never think past that

>>74083243
inpressive

>>74083243

and now, time for some human music

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>>74084920
I'm so shitfaced that made me crack up.

Did that guy ever get his hughes and kettner 5 watt amp to work?

What is the most underrated chord?

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Quick, post your favourite Yngwie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU4fT4Xsb8w

>>74085105
Bm7, Fsus4

>>74078602
>tfw no holdsworth tone
I'll never have his skills but if only I could pretend to.

>>74085165
this is my favourite Yngwie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIyvB2nxaD0

Who /twowaypickslant/ here? I'm breaking down my descending fours today with both upward and downward dominance. It's not musical but it's revealing some weakness in my technique. [Bump]

>>74087525
I end up flattening out my pick when going up half way through instead of changing the angle completely
I'm sloppy as hell on the bass strings going up so I might try a more extreme angle

>>74085165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAsHFSrh0i8
I've been learning this for the past few days but it has been mostly playing the same licks over and over again trying to get my playing up to speed

>b7/9 sus13

>>74087525
no one cares anon

>>74085105
D13

>>74081549
Who's that autistic that the look of their pedal matters geez.

who here bb king lessons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCxDDOWMPfc

>>74088241
2:58 cool synth

>>74088302
Only when he plays Malmsteen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmN14-qnuk

Are guitar cables a meme? This dude is trying to tell me monster cables are the best but honestly I havent really cared just buy mid range price cables.

Part of me is "you get what you pay for" but I don't think I need to spend $50 on a 3ft cable.

>>74088193
I kept getting accidental notes when I didn't switch and my upward dominant slant can be way more extreme than down.

>>74088265
Thanks for sharing.

>>74088367
Road Hog has lasted longest for me so far. The end has an extended "wrap" so that there's less play on the soldering, I guess.

>>74074305
Agreed senpai

>>74088367
I've been using a long ass homemade cable for the longest time
I would only pay a premium if the cable prevents handling sounds and even then I would need a real reason to pay up

>>74088342
Haha, that's great! Blues Boy!

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how the fuck do you write songs

>>74085105
E minor

>>74080316
I've had the same experience with the HRD (not iii)

>>74088685
its a creative process, and as all creative processes there is no prefixed path.

If you kinda know the genre you wnat, you should study songs similar to that genre, copy them, study their tricks, try to reproduce them similarly but not exactly, gather a lot of those resources so that once oyu master them you can use them in different ways and create something new

tips for improving at speed excersises?

i just grab one excersise, warm up at slow tempo then start 20 bpm lower than my limit tempo, then see if i can play it perfect 2 times in a row, if i can, increase 5bpm if i cant decrease 5bpm.

Will this make me play good?

>>74085105
Em11 :^)

>tfw new strings
nice bright rich sound
>tfw its 2 days vs 3 months of dead strings

>>74088913
Just get elixirs nigga

>>74088913
It's a great feel
>Oh this is how it's supposed to sound.

>>74088865
Sounds like you're doing it right. Make sure you have a variety of patterns to practice and try moving them around the neck. You can double up with scale practice this way.

It takes a long time to improve but this is the best way.

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one day I shall own it

>>74089802
>It takes a long time to improve but this is the best way.
like, can it take 1 year to go from 120 to 140 bpm?

>>74089802
>you have a variety of patterns to practice
i was actually trying to focus on one for a few weeks then switching? or should i practice the same for years?

im currently focusing on tremolo picking once i have that decent enough to play misirlou right i will pass on to other technique like alternate or sweep

>that guy who plays fingerstyle because it strokes his ego but he just plays blues rock shit muffled ver.

>>74088685
come up with a melody then find a key then put some chords together

What's the difference between Swing and Shuffle?

>>74090461
swing = spang-a-lang
shuffle- chaka-chaka-chaka-chaka

>>74090461
Swing is lazy sounding and shuffle is more of a short burst type of feel

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Anyone have experience with Reunion Blues gig bags?

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>>74090074
Depends I guess. It can be easy enough to go from 80 to 100 (accurate to a click) but it takes much longer to go from 100 to 120. Above that is lunacy unless you're "cheating" and play less notes per beat. You want to have about 4 notes per beat or so. At least that's what I do. It can be beneficial to pack some more in as it helps with keeping time.

I wouldn't worry about how long it takes, make a small goal and meet it in a few weeks. Say increasing 5 bpm.

>>74090095
I would definitely not practice the same sequence over and over again ad nauseam. That's a great way to get bored and it won't prepare you for actually playing music. If you only practice 12-14-15-14-12 (e string), you're gonna flub when you have to move to another string mid-sequence. It helps to have that muscle memory already built up. You get that by practicing a bunch of sequences of all types, 4/4, 3/4, triplets, 1 string, 3 strings, chromatic, skipping around, etc. So I would find a bunch, and play them all until you're sick of them and then play them more. Seek out sequences that are tough for you and make you slip up then make them your bitch. That will help more than anything.

This applies for all types of picking, though I'm mostly talking about alternate here. Hope that helps dude.

>>74083280
At what point did you think i took that "guitar duel" seriously?

And im not just talking about the half assed solo i shared because anons in the thread kept asking from me to do it. (which wasn't even a bad solo btw, the guitar volume was just way too low)

I'm talking about the entire concept of that "guitar duel". it was dumb and insignificant in the first place

>>74090948
thanks anon

>>74090988
if you keep replying to the trolls theyll never shut up

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ok WHAT THE FUCK

My fuckdamn bass strings are too high beyond the 12th fret, at the 21st fret its about 0.5' of relief insteand of 0.02'.
I'm new to setting up guitars, but tightened the truss rod to make the neck as straight as possible without giving any buzz and lowered the saddles as far as they will go.
It's slightly less than 0.02 relief at the first fret without any buzz, adjusting the truss made it lower here but its still bullshit at the other end?
Whats wrong here? Does it need a shim in the neck joint? To be fixed by a luthier?
Above the 12th fret its all good low action, below is almost impossible to play yet the neck is straight.

I'm new to setting up guitars and all

>>74091177
>Does it need a shim in the neck joint?

That's what I would do. a shim at the heel side of the neck pocket should fix it.

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>>74091262

Its a G&L and I've heard they all need it. I have a little bit of beech wood, what kind of size would it need to be do you think? Here is the other end, same gauge is snug.

>>74091177
if you installed the strings correctly and theres a problem with the action you need to fix your instrument, take it to a luthier unless you know perfectly well what youre doing

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>>74091340
I've never had to make a shim thicker than a credit card. . I usually just use a piece of sandpaper or wood veneer. Just a small strip is all you need.

>>74091351

I want to learn how to do it myself though, giving somebody €70 every few months to set it up seems like a huge waste of money when I have 5 guitars. None of my friends can do anything at all with their guitars so it would be a good skill to develop.

>>74091377

Thanks, I'll try this tomorrow

>>74091432

Ok I decided to just do it now.

>open it up
>whats this
>a tiny piece of sandpaper already in there

Hvae I been fucked into buying a returned lemon? I noticed the truss rod was hard to adjust was and damaging my allen key slightly.
Has some monkey with even less skill than me already tried this? It was supposed to be brand new.

>>74091723
im trying to learn how to jam.

Im currently looking at the lydian mode i've learnt all the arpegios and triads in a couple of position, and i struggle like hell to memorize them and much more to use them in any vaguely musical way.

Same thing happens when i try to learn up some licks, its just too god damn much information

>>74091723
They come that way from the factory a lot of the time, i've seen it a lot on Ibanez guitars. Some factories just have shit quality control. Just make a bigger shim, all you can do really.

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>>74092057

This is an artists impression of what it looked like, I just replaced it with a cardboard one like you posted. There is a huge difference now, the strings at the top are even lower, maybe its now TOO low for my liking but still no buzz so whatever. Above the 12th fret is much much better, still not perfect but its actually playable now.
Amazing difference, thank you based anon!

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bro I want this FRICKEN guitar

>>74091993

It takes time and practice. When you are practicing an instrument you are actually rewiring your brain to be capable of doing it, takes time to grow those little wires but when they are there they dont go away.

>>74092240
is it normal to spend like the whole fucking day on it and feeling you got nowhere?

i think im semi decent at blues and rock in fixed pentatonic boxes and i dont want to die in there, but going outside that seems to return so little in investmetn

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I've been "playing" guitar for 5 years and never advanced beyond a super crude amateurish playing that I've self-taught from youtube videos and online tabs. I realized that I plateau'd and needed something resembling actual lessons and started from the ground up with justinguitar.com. For the first time in 5 years I've been able to sing while playing, and even though it's something as simple as I Walk The Line, I'm stoked. Am I gonna make it, lads?

>>74090988
well all your actions looked like you took it seriously.

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>>74092309
>I've been "playing" guitar for 5 years and never advanced beyond a super crude amateurish playing that I've self-taught from youtube videos and online tabs.
yeah, okay, everyone moves at their own pace and-
>For the first time in 5 years I've been able to sing while playing
how the fuck have you managed to play guitar for five years without being able to sing to it?

>>74092300

Yes thats completely normal, sometimes you have bad days and of course it can/will take years or a lifetime to master an instrument. I play drums, guitar, bass and some other stuff for a long time and am still always learning.
Going through that rote basic is really boring but will pay off as you learn more stuff and can be mixed into what you do.
If you get bored of the basics, you could just listen to your favourite artists and copy what they do, learn from them.

>>74092379
Hence why I put "playing" in quotations. I would always pick it up and fiddle around with it but get discouraged because I suck. I never got to the level of practice needed to sing.

>>74088913
>>74089740
>change strings today
>notice the old ones were black with grime

they didn't even look that bad before i took them off desu

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>>74092429
Well, at least you've decided to give it a real go now. I hope you won't drop it again and even though it might be hard, I assure you, you'll get through it if you really want to. Have fun playing.

I want to practice guitar 22 hours per day, every single thing that is not practicing guitar seems pointless, even having a band.

anyone else in this autistic mode?

>>74092213
Just rip apart an old fisher-price toy and glue the shit on your current guitar.

>>74091177
>>74091262
a shim on the neck joint would do the exact same effect on the action as lowering the bridge. unless you cant lower it any more
plus it can affect the transfer of vibration between body n neck

>>74091993
>i've learnt all the arpegios and triads in a couple of position
i never tried to memorize that stuff for each mode/scale, i just play its notes. maybe thats why im mediocre

>>74092633
i think that the trick is to memorize all, play a lot of excersises, be very technical but then forget about it and be natural.

But its not the same being natural from scratch than doing those things and then being natural, it shows

>>74092309
>For the first time in 5 years I've been able to sing while playing
how did you do that

>>74092213
>spectrum

Is that for autismos

>>74092433
maybe you clean them on the surface but the part that touches the frets remain dirty

>>74092706
i don't clean them at all. am i supposed to?

>>74092592

Yeah I couldn't lower it anymore so had to shim up. It might need a thicker shim to get a perfect balance of string height along the neck but that would involve fucking around with the truss some more.
Havent tested it with the amp yet but I'm sure the vibration transfer loss would be minimal and certaintly worth it for a playable instrument.

How do I get a good guitar tone out of Ableton?

>>74092529
yes i do, except for i dont practice disciplinedly to it

How much will pickups influence the tone? Say if i want to put a classic 57 hunbucker on a esp ltd deluxe ec-1000, will i get the same tone as a les paul? Is there any rules to changing pickups? And how does one know how it will sound like on their guitar? I can't seem to find any informatiom about that.

>>74090988
Aw, it's sad it didn't win...

>>74092973
yes it will likely sound like a les paul, it has the exact same cnstruction (which is what influences the tone besides the pickups). a little difference on the neck pickup because it is positioned a bit closer to the bridge due to 24 frets

Fuck Guitar Center. I ordered a used Big Muff pedal from them for $35 and they cancelled the order 3 times because some nigger employee at the store wanted it. They still charged me both times the fuckers

>>74093436
>yes it will likely sound like a les paul, it has the exact same cnstruction (which is what influences the tone besides the pickups). a little difference on the neck pickup because it is positioned a bit closer
fuck people who use the word nigger

I hope he use its to make great blues music like whities can never do

>>74093436

How can they charge you for something you didnt get?

>>74093487
That's exactly what I'm disputing with my bank. They even hung up on me when I called the store to ask about it. Pieces of shit

>>74074174
Is mahogany just a worse wood for the neck of a guitar than hard rock maple? I may have a custom LP style (ish) guitar built and I wonder whether a maple neck would make more sense.
In general it'll be a mahogany body with flamed maple top, 2 humbuckers, 3-way toggle switch, 2 mini switches (serial parallel single coil for each pickup), 2x tone 2x volume, 24 frets, a more modern headstock design to get rid of the tuning issues and the headstock issues, etc.

What I'm still wondering, do LP bridges (tune o matic style) have issues (I'm happy to go for a more modern bridge design) and is maple just better for the neck than mahogany? Bass necks are under much more tension and I rarely see a complete mahogany bass neck, if they are mahogany then it's always multi layer and mixed with other woods there.

Any input? What other modernisations would you like on your personal LP? Do LPs tend to headdive? I saw that the strap button doesn't even reach the 14th fret.

>>74092057
>>74092196
Sandpaper? That's just fucked up. I know that many companies do it but even the shitty made in china guitars that came shimmed had a thin piece of wood in there (alder or maple) and not a piece of fucking sandpaper.

>>74093540

Just print all that stuff out and then go face to face with the manager where they cant back away or bullshit you

>>74093540
>>74093487
>>74093436
>american consumer protection
lel

>>74093580

Not only was it just sandpaper, and just sandpaper so haphazardly put in it fucked up the neck even more, but a piece of sandpaper the size of a cig butt.
So they used it as a cheap fix for a shitty design and also cheaped out on the amount of sandpaper "shim" going into each one.

Pretty gay for a €700 bass, looks like I wont be buying anything made in Asia ever again until I can buy it practically for free.

>>74093599
I bought it from a store in another state because it's used. Every attempt to contact customer services has been ignored, or dropped in the case of my call to the store.

>>74093723

This is an age old tactic to jew you, hoping you will give up. So your choices are to either give up or drive over there and confront them.

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>>74074174

who /Hagstrom/ here?

>>74093705
G&L you said? That's just fucked up, I heard good things about these guys even the tribute line. I assume you live in the US? There are some amazing, smaller manufacturers in europe, and for 800-1200 you could have gotten something made in Europe at (almost) custom shop niveau, better than mass produced mia fenders. I would assume you have similar manufacturers in america somewhere but I have no clue about the market there.

>>74093436
make sure you get 10% off of everything at guitar center.

>>74093705
>>74093886
And what I also wanted to say, shimming is kind of a shitty fix for a bad design but it has essentially zero effect on the sound. My bass has a shim in the neck pocket and it sounds amazing, but I'm pretty sure it is supposed to be a proper shim made out of a wood veneer.

I'm pretty sure making an angled neck pocket was harder back in the day and/or at least it was more machine time and not that easy for CNC machines (someone correct me if I'm talking bs here) so that's why this solution became so popular, a very quick and easy fix that works really well if it's done right. Fender also used to make guitars that had a screw to tilt the neck, they dropped that though.

>>74093545
>Do LPs tend to headdive?
no their body is much heavier you should have guessed that
les pauls mahogany necks arent common for having problems and theyre part of the traditional les paul sound, i would make thje guitar with a mahogany neck

>>74094022
>TOAN NECKWOOD
my sides!

>>74093886
>>74093963

I'm European actually, was just using inches since I think most of 4chan is American. Who are these European manufacturers by the way? Dont get me wrong I also have a G&L strat and its an absolutely beautiful and excellent value guitar (solid ash body).
They are made properly but the finishing touches are awful, ther most obvious being drilled holes and filed nuts without the excess material being sanded away, and this shim bullshit. I cant blame these sweatshop workers for not giving a fuck when they are being disrespected with shit wages.

So many aspects of electric guitars are pure shitty design, bolt on necks, gibson headstocks, floyd rose etc. The shim works well and I'm happy with it, not a big deal to do it.

>>74094063
Sandberg and Maruszczyk. You can find Maruszczyk basses (and mensinger guitars, the same people are building them) at public-peace.de
They're made in Poland and at least my bass, and the basses of other people on forums, are really great. 800-900 for a basic model (with superb pickups though) but also ridiculously customizable if you want to go that way, etc.

Sandberg just make amazing basses (they also make guitars but nobody really stocks them afaik), a basic J, P or MM style bass should set you back 1200-1300. They are superb and super consistent since they use a PLEK machine for the fretwork.

Reading through my post again, I swear I'm not a shill, but both of these basses I own are just so much better than any MIA fender I ever tried.

>>74094022
Yup, I thought as much about the body, but I'm not 100% sure if the body won't be somewhat slimmer. I'm still not sure about the neck, a nice hardrock maple neck, in my head, just seems like it's more stable. Maybe it's completely irrational, I don't know.

What's a good guitar with the same quality of a gibson les paul but without the overblown price for the headstock? Something around the 1000-1800 range?

>>74094188

Those Maruszczyk basses look fucking sick, cant believe I never heard of them. A friend of mine is sponsored by a Polish bass drum pedal manufacturer, a very small company but they make really good stuff even though they are unknown.
I always thought Sandberg were just meme djent 13 sting wanksticks, looks like they have some nice basses too.
In future all my guitar stuff will be made properly by people who are being paid properly. I'm a huge fan of pearl drums and though they are made in Taiwan it pretty hard to fuck up a drum.

>>74093545
Also for the electronics, treble bleed (or 50s wiring or whatever is available for these things) on both volume controls. I love this mod and I think it's almost essential.

>>74094056
it has more effect on toan than bodywood mind you

>>74094423
>Those Maruszczyk basses look fucking sick, cant believe I never heard of them.
Check them out, they also have a configurator under "custom shop" so you can see how much you'd pay for a customized bass. They actually seem to have raised their prices recently, I saw several of their basses for 800-900. Also, I don't know about their own "maruszczyk" pickups, but delano and haeussel are just top notch. They also have a shitton of demo videos for all kinds of pickups and basses on their youtube channel, public peace.

>I always thought Sandberg were just meme djent 13 sting wanksticks, looks like they have some nice basses too.
That's Strandberg, you're not the first to confuse the two. Sandberg is a German company, the basses are made in Germany (except for the Electra line, the sub 1000€ basses) and, as I said, PLEK'd so the fretwork is just superb (and should be ridiculously consistent). Electronics are made from Glockenklang for them (so it says "sandberg electronics" on their active basses sometimes) and the pickups are delano (again, some of them made specifically for sandberg so they say "sandberg pickups"), I think they make their bridges and tuning machines in korea, but I've never had an issue with them. They also have a configurator on their website if you want to play around with different woods, finishes, hardware colour, scale lengths, etc.

>practiced on bass the other day
>fingers feel nice and stretched, easy to do two steps stretches

what's a good amp for an apartment?

>>74094553

That sounds pretty good to me, fuck Gibson, Fender and Marshall too for charging 5x the price for these features and only giving you an Indonesian tier guitar for €1000.
The big brand stuff has gotten insane recently.

>sandberg
>strandberg

lel

>>74094655

Ideally none, it depends on your neighbours. Noise pollution drives people crazy.

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I don't understand the appeal of les pauls. They look and sound like shit in my opinion, and all those knobs seems like it would make it difficult to get the sound you want. Please, could someone help me understand.

>>74094586
Whenever I switch from my 35'' scale length bass to a guitar or to my 30'' scale length bass it feels like cheating. It's so much easier to do certain things. Then again, if I switch from upright bass, which has a scale length or roughly 42'', to my 35'' bass it also feels that way.

>>74094795
>Please, could someone help me understand.
there's just no way. If you don't naturally understand that les paul is the superior guitar you're doomed.

It's like a gay man asking whats so good about women. Lel faggot keep on sucking dicks leave us them sweet pussyes and titties to the masterace

>>74094795

Its a big heavy awkward weapon with humbuckers, whats not to love? Its a mans guitar.

>>74094841
Yeah, but I just started playing guitar.

>>74094655
Something low power with a headphone jack I would assume

>>74094795
They're a classic design, many people's heroes have played them so they love them and want to play them as well.
>sound like shit
Maybe you don't like humbuckers in general? There's pros and cons and you can always split them to single coils.
>all of those knobs
The idea behind it is that you "set" a tone and volume for the neck and "set" a tone and volume for the bridge pickup and then don't touch it anymore. Basically your lead sound from the bridge (maybe tone all the way up and full volume) and your rhythm sound from the neck (maybe more quiet, so less overdrive, and slight tone cut). While you're playing you literally just switch between them and you also have the "somewhere in the middle" option. That's the gist of how they're supposed to be used.

>>74094890
it doesn't matter, if a 14 yo hormonal boy tells you he doesnt see the appeal in fucking a pussy, you already know he's gay, like either you have it or you dont

is a standard strat hss a good guitar? ive never played electric. i can get one for a little under $400 in good condition

>>74094655
I play a boss katana 100 in an apartment, at the 0.5W setting. I also have a tiny 5W bass amp with a 410 cabinet set up. I asked the neighbours (specifically the ones living below me) and they said you can kinda hear it but it's no big deal. I make sure not to play on holidays/sundays and at night, obviously. Again, no issues whatsoever so far.

>>74094945
yws

>>74094945
A Fender Standard, made in mexico? Not a Squier? Yeah, should be more than fine. HSS is nice and flexible and with a mim fender you shouldn't have any real issues.

>>74094933
Get off this board fucktard, the next time I see you post stupid shit here I'm going to strangle an infant.

>>74095053
>implying a shitler troll would care about your infant strangling
go play your strat

>>74095075
He's not a troll though, he's a fucktard.

>>74094719
>fuck Gibson, Fender and Marshall too for charging 5x the price for these features and only giving you an Indonesian tier guitar for €1000.
>The big brand stuff has gotten insane recently.
That's literally the conclusion I came to, they charge ridiculous amounts of money for these mass produced guitars while people here, locally, are making them better for less money. I'm not willing to pay for Fenders or Gibsons advertising campaign.
I'd still urge you to try them at a store if you have the chance though. That alone, comparing them to the big brands, made me confident in ordering one, don't just trust some random guy on 4chan and see it for yourself (should be possible with sandberg at a large music store, not really possible with maruszczyk sadly).

>>74094952

You are lucky to have cool neighbours, last night my neighbours had a party and rented a big sound system playing ZZ top and ACDC until 3 in the morning.
It was so loud it sounded like the real ACDC was playing next door, the bass drum was reverberating off all the houses around the area, nobody said shit.
Nothing worse than nazi neighbours who make you walk on eggshells in your own home.

>>74087525
>>74088193
slanting is for sissies
i make sure to always have my pick straight

>>74095102
implying the guy you replied to isnt actually me and the guy you were originally replying to?
mindfucked yet?

Im sorry idiot, but you have stumbled into a fighter of the mind, and no matter how much you insist on being a violence builly, i have read books all my life so i have an armor against idiots. Youre inferior non knowledge powers do nothign to me, so prepare to fight with thoughts or be declared inferiors to me dear sir.

>>74095116
Well, if they had such parties every week then I wouldn't be too happy about that either, both extremes kinda suck in that regard. But apparently one or two hours of my horrible playing a day are acceptable, one of my neighbours even told me that he liked hearing it from time to time and that he could tell that my playing was improving, that was super nice.

>>74095132
Atleast I don't look like a fucking idiot playing my strat. The fucking les paul looks like a pear.

>>74095116
>nobody said shit.
thats cool neighbohors not bad ones
>Nothing worse than nazi neighbours who make you walk on eggshells in your own home.
wut

>>74095181
woah sorry i need 3 different mics and switches. Why not 5, why not 267 mics, if we're designing retarded instruments lets go all thew ay

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>>74093857
This old hag keeps winking at me whenever I go to the shops.

>>74095204
is that what they call an archtop? for what genres of guitar playing is it good?

>>74095222
yes it is good

>>74095192

>you turn on your amp
>tuning up the guitar
>before you have even tuned all 6 strings you hear a frantic knocking on the door

It's your neighbour telling you to shut the fuck up because he has to get up at 3 am to go to work in some shithole.
Thats killing your whole vibe.

>>74095173

It's only every few months, I play the drums so had to go into work today with 2 hours sleep and had no moral leg to stand on.

>>74095247
for the what genres of guitar is it for the playing of of good?

>>74095222
Yeah that's an archtop, the top is literally arched like a violin or cello, not flat like a classical guitar or a normal steel string acoustic guitar.

Many of them aren't even fully acoustic though, they have a "sustain block" going through the entire length of the body, which means it's actually an electric guitar with hollow wings, a semi-hollow. The "original" archtop guitars back in the day didn't have any pickups and were obviously fully acoustic, the pickups came later.

>>74095266
>It's only every few months, I play the drums so had to go into work today with 2 hours sleep and had no moral leg to stand on.
I wouldn't have an issue with that if they let you know in advance, should be standard if you're having a planned party and you know that it'll get louder.

>>74095298
>any pickups and were obviously fully acoustic,
>>74095247
>>74095222
>>74095204
>>74095204
>>74095204
>>74095222
>>74095247
FOR WHAT GENRES GOOD GOOD FOR WHAT GENRES?

WHAT THE GNERSE TEL LME TELL ME NOW NOW NOW NO WNOW OR ILL KILL YOU

FOR WHAT GENDER IS IT GOOD THAT GUITAR!!!!=?!??!?!#=)?!=#?!?!?!

>>74094795
It's a big ass slab of mahogany with a thinner slab of maple on top. What's not to love?

>>74095323
Jazz. They were used for Jazz mostly, or at least that's what they're famous for. They're even called jazz guitars sometimes. Jesus, calm down.

>>74095320

They are nice enough to invite me everytime even though I never go.
The only problem is driving and working without sleep and potentially being injured because of it.

>>74095266
ahh it kills the little princess' vibe

>>74095181
Enjoy having 2 settings out of 5 where you can get a subpar humbucking effect.
Unless you like listening to every power grid with a 5 mile radius through your amp that is.

>>74095365
Oh yeah, obviously that sucks. Proper earplugs every few months? I know it sucks that you would need to prepare for that and deal with it, but I personally would try to deal with it before trying to police the neighbourhood.

>>74095288
>>74095323
lol that english

Dad said he'd get me a Stratocaster if I could play some Beatles tunes for him.

Is Fender a good choice? Some of my friends have Fenders but my budget is a little bigger than theirs was at the time of buying.

I'm thinking of something in the 1000$ range, possibly a bit more if it's worth it.

>>74095359
>Jesus, calm down.
what if i told you i was gifted one of those but i am a shit player and can barely play blues much less jazz. But the guitar sounds so fucking good i just want to learn jazz just to play it

>>74095429

Why do you care about budget if daddy is paying for it?

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>>74095323
Steve Howe of Yes has used his ES-175 since before he joined the band and still uses one as his main guitar.
Don't believe the instrument will limit what you can play with it.

>>74095429
That would easily get you a made in mexico strat or a higher end ibanez super strat (different animal, but you might like it) or something along those lines. If you have the option then go to a store and test out a bunch of stuff in your price range, but getting a mexican strat and maybe having it adjusted, set up and "polished up" by a proper luthier (don't let guitar center or someone like them work on it) would be a solid choice.

>>74095400
no its not a humbucking effect because its wired in parallell not series. turn out the bookreading genius has never read a book of electrics

>>74095429
Get yourself a used Japanese strat. You won't regret it

>>74095414

I agree with you that moderation is best, but just saying musicans who are able to practice in peace dont know how lucky they are. I have a set of electronic drums and it causes a lot of fights with my neighbours wherever I went. Even though I'm listening on headphones the people below can still hear the bass pedal through their roof and always went nuts until I was banned from playing, that left me with no particular purpose.
When my nieghbours do it now I just suffer it out and hope they have a good time.

>>74095453
You can play metal on it, you can learn fingerpicking on it and play classical guitar pieces, you can play blues, jazz, funk or whatever else on it. It's a guitar, you don't need to play jazz on it just because that's what they are known for. Teles are associated with country music and there are some metal bands that use them, it doesn't matter.

But do learn jazz, it's great fun to play and you'll be forced to learn music theory.

Might be a dumb place to ask, but does anyone here know an app that lets you record audio and isn't shitty adware or something? For some reason my smartphone doesn't have a fucking audio recorder

>>74095533
Then I'll feel really lucky from now on that I can do just that. I can genuinely practice in peace except for upright bass, I have to have an electric one at home. It's not the same but any actual acoustic UB with a proper endpin would be unbearable for my neighbours.

>>74095535
why did they make archtops without soundholes even before they had electric pickups
also is there an archtop with a bridge pickup? but like a jazz hollowbody not just a semihollow like a es335

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>>74095455
I just want value for my money, I could never make my dad pay a grotesque amount of money without good reason.
>>74095499
What's the deal with Mexican guitars? Are they worse because of mass manufacturing or something?
>>74095528
Used? Would a new one be too costly?

>>74095678
>I just want value for my money, I could never make my dad pay a grotesque amount of money without good reason.
stay around 1000U$S and you get great quality for the price youre paying. more than that is just fetichism

>>74095678
Well, I don't really know what Jap strats costs in the US, but where I live they are expensive as fuck. Anyways, used or not, get a jap strat

>>74095628
>>74095678
I answered you guys in the next thread
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