/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

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Rate my rig fags.

Just got the supro the other day. It's perfect for gigging with

>>73988632
As long as they get the job done.

>>73988634
>fags
Your guitar is so sparkly. I wasn't expecting that kind of language, lol.

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>>73988557
more like drunk spacewalk

>>73988676
yeah for sure
the tele doesnt atm tho

>theyre pretty ok guitars.
let me comment them
strats my first guitar. really cheap model, its a beginner guitar, but a decent one at it, its well built decent fretjob etc. body is basswood 7 pieces. tuners are surprisingly decent. i was looking for a good strat after i bought the LP so i decided to upgrade it because muh my first guitar. turns out it sounded cheap even with new bridge, block and pups. so i replaced the pickups for some heavy ones, like overwound texas specials, now it sounds ok. i swapped the neck with the tele when i upgraded it.

les paul's all nato wood. the body is 3 pieces i think. decent grover tuners. refreted it with big Dunlop 6000s. pickups are super distortion and 59. wired 50s wiring and with split pushpull. waiting for a new nut to use her again because the a string is really low.

tele is the last one i bought. previous owner had it relic the neck, gfs pickups, and this repaint. i dont really like these overwound pickups. its waiting for new saddles to get back to use because these really cut the strings no matter how much or how ell i sand them, and theyre zinc anyway.

HOW CAN SOMEONE BE AFFLICTED BY POORFAG SYNDROME THIS HARD?

>>73988847
>one meme arrow will green the whole ctrl v

1:59
learn kids
this is how pros do a bass solo
https://youtu.be/KsADgYwoScY

>>73988634
>Sparkle guitar
Faggot/10
If you weren't such a prissy bitch I'd say it looks decent minus that huge silver dildo.

>>73988875
Not an argument

>>73988930
certainly not a good quote job either LOL

>>73988847
>Being assmad about gear that someone else uses
Just play what you play, and let them play what they play. Don't be such a cunt.

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Bought this Washburn Idol tele today for $65. Just wanted a second guitar that had single coils. Probably the ugliest guitar I've ever played, but it's light and after setting it up is super fun to play.

when john lennon does this rythm thing with the pinky, does he play the full 7th chord? does he mute notes with the pinky?

>>73989176
like a power chord with the pinky two frets up

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>>73988634
>>73988706
>>73988907
Fuck off retards. His guitar and amp is better than 95% of the garbage posted here.

>>73989280
>his
yes of course

>>73989310
>it sparkle hehehehe what GIRL!!!
>me no have sparkle!!!
actually you right now

>>73989201
>power chord with the pinky two frets up
5 7 9 x x x
If you're talking about that shape, it's a sus2 chord, no 7th interval. Helps to think of it as just a power chord with an added 9 on top. Don't know what you mean about the pinky muting, might help if you give an example

>>73989495
no
i meant
5 7 x x x x
5 9 x x x x
5 10 x x x
i suppose thats the 7 chord youre talkin about

>>73989280
>His babby combo amp is better than 95% of the "garbage" posted here
You mean your amp is a decent clean amp with no outstanding features whatsoever aside from being denim blue and looking like a middle-aged father would buy it so he doesn't wake his child up at night practicing his Van Halen licks.

>>73989534
That's a standard blues shuffle. Still not quite sure what you're asking. There's a minor 7th interval on the last one but it's not a full chord with only two notes

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>>73989568
I don't. It's not the first amplifier I'd want to use, but his amplifier isn't bad and looks like one of the ~$1,200 Supros. As already said, fuck off retard. My favorite amplifiers, keeping away from boutiques, would be a Twin Reverb for anything crystal clean and an old plexi-era Marshall, with a JCM 800 being a rare exception for rude sounds.

>>73989794
Don't try to play like it isn't your amp, stop whining about your shit money management skills.
Paying over $900 for an amp is absolutely absurd, especially a shitty little 2x12 combo.

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full set up

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>>73989828
Funnily enough, I don't even use any amplifiers, only pirated Amplitube. Buying amplifiers seems like such a waste of time and money, and then getting the microphones and isolating it, carrying it all around if you move or whatever, who gives a shit anymore.

>>73989416
pretty sure theyre referring to the use of third person pronouns as opposed to the gender

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>>73988847
>Samefa/gg/™ tearing apart his own post

>>73989109
Congrats! You bought the Hannah Montana guitar in black.

>>73989280
>guitar
It would have to stay in tune to be any good.

>>73989933
>>73989958
lol

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>>73990005
>phone posting
>formatting

>>73989280
What's your favorite John Frusciante song mine's Anne with Ramparts at second

>>73989936
>can't afford amplifiers
>wastes $1,200 on a combo amp
I can't tell, which retarded are you?

>>73989933
Not bad/10
Might wanna consider swapping that lame Digitech Grunge for something else though.

>>73989936
>amplitube
8/10 well memed

can you guess which amps are these
https://55chan.org/mu/src/1500319405728.ogg

>>73990295
>"can't afford"
>I didn't say that anywhere
Here is your (You). Be sure to fap while reading this for an extra euphoria dose.

>>73990328
I like it. If you your CPU has a high single thread speed and you use monitors with an interface, it works perfectly and I get everything I want.

everybody should like kiss

>>73989951
Wow I got a deal then. And actually, it has the Red Shit Finish ^tm

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>>73990318
got it for free so i mess around with it. it is an utter garbage pedal for bass. had to turn down all of the settings so that it doesn't blow out my amp.
i'm considering giving it away to my local shop so someone else can appreciate it.
the fuzz pedal is all i need for distortion, but i really want add a swollen pickle

>>73990631
Sounds like a solid addition.

>get your les paul
>plug it directly into your tube amp
>tune with just your phone
>dont ever worry about pedals bullshit

>>73990722
This but dean custom 550fr

>>73990806
>floyd
>with emgs
isnt it made to be used with pedals and chorus?

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>>73990722
>Les Paul

>'05 Gibson es339 Custom Shop
>Blues Jr. tweed
>ditto looper
>JHS unicorn
>boss super OD

soundsgoodman.jpg

>>73990846
this is for real players. go back to playing your floyd through your baby pedals kid

>>73990722
Les Pauls are ugly as shit.

Sound decent but I'm an SG man all the way.

>>73990596
Hey you dumb fucking assblasted cunt answer my god damn question you prick

>>73990925
I've been wanting to really play on a SG lately. I know the necks are smaller so that's partially my draw, because I don't have buckethead or hendrix sized hands. What's your experience with them?

>>73990865
[spoiler]I don't play Floyds either but LPs are heavy as shit and don't sound all that good desu

>tfw wasted 5 years of my life not doing warmup exercises

52nd for kiss alive! is best album ever

>>73990838
No. Hi gain enough thru my amp that i dont need shitty pedals. I like to hear the notes i do. Especially going fast.

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>>73990978
what, >>73990275?

I can't choose just one of his songs. I love some of the guitar on Under The Bridge. I think it's perfect. For his own songs, there a lot that are really neat but I only like parts, like some things on the empyrean and to record water for only ten days. I don't listen to it very much and I think his lead playing is like slam-poetry tier, not interesting or thought out, no punch to it, as if he throws all of his style out of the window. I get what he's trying to do, but I think it rarely shows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xqXrAn3S5E

the slide up 0:30 and the BUM, BUUUH... It's perfect. I fucking love it. When I first heard that song and the guitar, I played it over and over every day for like two years. Nobody seems to relate, though.

then when he breaks out at 1:48

god then 2:07 to 2:12, it's like mellow funk.

I recorded myself playing it like 3 years ago. I think it sounds like shit now and I mess everything up.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0wmhKwIS4FI

I've spent the last two years playing Eric Johnson, specifically his live improvisation, not really messing with Frusciante, because he doesn't have a whole lot to mess with unless you bother to watch his live funk stuff, which I don't want to do.

>>73991209
>he didnt practice for 2+hours
Would have got your warmup in the first 30 mins.

>>73991349
i did play all day every day for like 3 years

ops clicked post

...but didnt do any exercises. was focused in playing songs licks and looking like someone else

heres a little diddly I threw together just to get back into the swing of things. It's been a while since I've played. And sorry for the noise. I literally stuffed a rockband microphone into the body of my guitar and eqd it the best I could.

https://clyp.it/uqot4wsv

>>73991316
Sorry for not getting to your post yet I'll look at the links and respond now

>>73991316
>>73992387
Personally I really like his solo work and listen to a lot of it but I agree with you about his live performance. I mean I think he had/has the skill to play really good improv but he never planned it out too well, maybe he was too easily satisfied with whatever came out of improv.

I don't know whether they were made on the spot or planned but the dual guitar solos in Anne are absolutely amazing and the one that was his (I remember hearing the other part was Omar playing) is his best solo imo.

How do you play this guitar riff?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe81wbvsRY4&t=3m8s

How do I make good melodies?

>>73992946
Listen to shoegaze then make shoegaze

>>73992946
Hum it out before you ever touch a guitar.

>>73993115
shit that's a great idea

>>73992946
use lydian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j776jwkWtB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3U3ivanUyA

I'm working my way through justinguitar, it's been quite a good resource but I'm wondering if it's considered to fall short in any major aspects?

I've only skimmed the content but it seems to not teach how to read music?

>>73994060
Why would you need to read music when tabs exist?

My smile is a RIFLE
And WHAT ARE YOU!!

What are some good acoustic songs to learn if I want to entertain normies?

>>73994144
Wonderwall


but really though Go To Sleep and There There by Radiohead seem to impress just anyone who doesn't play guitar and they're piss easy

>>73994144
I'd go with fingerstyle

There's this really neat song I have in mind called Capricho Arabe by Francisco Tárrega it's tricky but rather impressive

Then again if you're asking for help impressing normies you're probably not good enough to play it

What kind of picks do you guys use? I usually only use relatively thick picks, or if my room is as cluttered as it usually is, a coin, but I've been trying to experiment with flimsier ones and...how the fuck do the guys who play with these do this?

>>73994144
Nothing Else Matters

>>73994310
T. Proud fedora wearer

>>73994667
yellow tortex master race reporting for duty

jazz 3 cucks get out

>>73994781
>not having a precise enough touch for jazz 3
You're probably one of those people who needs a pick guard.

>>73994886
???? Not even that anon.... Umm we dont need pickguards.. Guitars do...

>>73994935
>... to protect their guitar(s) [implied].
Jazz III users tend not to scratch up their finishes with errant pick strokes.

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How fucked am I /mu/
I compulsively bought a 1978 musicmaster for 800. I then later found out it's a student model guitar that is 3/4 the shape of a normal guitar. But I looked more into it and the year mine was made they put Mustang bodies and a bigger headstock. And the scale length of mine is 24 inches. That's only 3/4 a quarter of an inch smaller than a Less Paul. How much of a difference is that 3/4 th of an inch feel? Also anyone have experience returning shit on reverb dot com?

>>73995263
its gonna feel like a squire bullet. but who cares. hows the tone?

>>73994667
i have 1 alice and bunch of dunlops. idk about sizes but i rather have it thin as possible. better for strumming. the one im using is alice 0.81mm

>>73994144
imagine by john lenon.
abit tricky for beginners but its easy pussy

>>73995374
That's probably the best suggestion yet. I'm not a beginner, but I'm not really great either. I would describe myself as intermediate, even though everyone's going to have a different idea of what that is.

>>73995509
most Beatles songs are pretty easy, especially in their early years, and are instantly recognizable, they're perfect for you unless your crowds has an irrational dislike for "old" stuff.

>>73995332
I dunno. It's still being shipped

>>73983817
lol

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>>73975213
>>And when i get my.pc imma tripfag you out of existence.
>>73990596 #
>>73991316 #
.......aaaaaaaaand filtered! Thanks.

I have to say its cute you're this upset though.

>>73995347
>>73995359
this sad shit right here

>>73994109
a better effort but still underwhelming

acoustic folk hipster here. sup?

i'm imrpoving a lot on my rhythm and i want to take it to the next level.
how do i use percussive rhythm while strumming?
i've tried to tap my knuckle on the scratch plate on the upbeats in the 16th note rhythm, but it doesn't sound right.
help?

>>73998182
aren't there enough one band man faggots beating on their acoustics like fucking retards? here's an idea: why not try doing something original for the first time in your entire miserable life?

>>73998235
i'm so sorry for doing things that i derive pleasure and satisfaction with anon. come jam sometime.

>>73998235
aren't there enough shitposting faggots beating on their dick like fucking retards? here's an idea: why not try doing something original for the first time in your entire miserable life?

>>73998379
>>73998297
>i'm so sorry for doing things that i derive pleasure and satisfaction with
you ever thought about it when someone calls you a "fucking idiot"? it's not a commentary on your impressive intellectual prowess anon

also, it'd serve everybody better if you didn't start crying like a bitch when you ask stupid questions and get appropriate replies

>>73998182
look into blues, real old school blues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuICVsaxJxc

>>73998438
oof ow oh ow ooff my feelings

>>73998512
something like that, yeah

>>73997670
oh baby

>>73998496
damn, that guy had a sweet rhythm.

>>73995263
Why do people even buy these inferior guitars? I cant wrap my head around this meme. And its a singke single coil. Just give me a shoebox and rubber bands it will be just as good

>>73998727
What's wrong with having one pickup? Most people only use one anyways

>>73998823
Yeah you mean student players who wont be able to coax tones from all pickup positions. Not using your pickups is pleb tier. Hell i might be the only guy who uses the middle pickup by itself on a strat. And besides how are you gonna do pinch harmonics with that pickup and placement?

>>73998882
>Hell i might be the only guy who uses the middle pickup by itself on a strat.
I like it too, far more than the neck pickup.

>>73995263
>>73998871
Here, it'll be over in the archive if you want to read it again ;^)
https://rbt.asia/mu/search/text/>>73998871/

>>73999227
Opps wrong link ;^)
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/73988557/#q73998871

is anyone here familiar with MAX/MSP?
I've been asking a couple times, I guess this is the last time I will ask about this


on a side note: how can I produce my recordings without them sounding like shit? I spend a lot of times setting up al the pedals, amp etc
audio quality is good, but in the mix either the drums are way too high, or the bass is too low, it's madness
I guess it would be useful reading a couple things or two about frequencies?

>>73999358
yep over time the resins in the wood will crystalize and the swelling and contraction that takes place with humidity changes will diminish creating a more stable instrument that will stay in tune better

nitrocellulose lacquer is superior for string instruments

Nitro finish allows the wood to dry out over time. which causes the wood grains to get tighter and it vibrates more
P/U doesnt because it seals the wood completely
Nitro finish better tone

>>73999459
reposted

>>73999472
that's why there's no point in having a new guitar relic'd

while wood in "vintage" guitars has aged considerably over time, encapsulated inside its finish, when you remove the paint from a relatively new guitar wood will eventually absorb humidity and wont age correctly

relic guitars=marketing

>>73994144
learn every song from the nirvana unplugged album

you will drown in pussy

>>73998182
every time you want to learn something new, do it 100 times and do it slowly

it's important learning new techniques and evolve your style, don't listen to that other anon

>>73999684
do you go to peoples houses with your guitar? that's kinda gay

how to git gud at rhythm

how hard is it to learn guitar

>>73995263
>returning shit
Always read the store policies before you buy. There's usually a time limit so that the buyer can inspect but not fuck around. Then there's the restocking fee...

>>73999558
Did not know that. Cool.

>>73999820
Little kids can play guitar.

>>73999820
hard

>>73999810
no, more like a "bonfire on the beach" situation

>>73995263
>returning shit on reverb
Hahahhahaha good luck, they are no help what so ever, i had to get the police and my bank involved after i wanted to return a guitar because the seller was an autistic cunt

>>73999820
Easy to 'learn' but you will never be 'good'.

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>>73999820
anyone can play guitar.

>>73999472
Poorfag syndrome. Nitro cellulose is a brittle shell and only shit wood isnt properly kiln dried to desired humidity.

>>73999913
that's gay too if I decide to hit the beach I bring shorts and a towel not a guitar lmao

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>>73999472
that's nice pseudo-science, but none of that is actually true and it's just an expensive finish.
>>73996994
not me. keep talking to yourself though

Are Segovia Scales a meme, or is it actually a useful method for getting around the neck melodically?

Also is there a codified method for learning arpeggio shapes all over the neck?

>>73999950
https://youtu.be/foC7lLXFiPc

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>post yfw you play your acoustic after a proper set up

That weird old guy was a proper guitar tech after all

>>73999961
>Poorfag syndrome: Nitro cellulose is a brittle shell and only shit wood isnt properly kiln dried to desired humidity.
ftfy

>"uuuuugh eugene's best buy ESP doesnt even have tonal wood"
>"no frucking way gurll, chads gibson has boutique tonal glue,

>>73989109
I think it looks wonderful

>>73994756
t. social outcast that's absolute shit at guitar

Kill yourself

>>73999971
>a bonfire during the day
Wew lad. Dont go full retard.

>>74000058
You missed the isn't

>>74000058
Not him but you didn't fix it. You made it nonsensical.

>>73999364
Lots of EQ. Possibly compression depending on what you want.
ask /prod/ not /gg/

>>74000079
Because chad got a condor.
>>74000125
>i know you are but what am i.
Thats your shit argument.

>>73999971
>not a guitar
gtfo, normie

Hey /gg/,

I have been playing/learning guitar on-and-off for several years, I have an epiphone les paul that I hate and plays like crap. I want a MIA strat but what would my next best alternative be for clean rhythm playing and the occasional blues? They are pretty expensive even used

Holy fuck, state a few facts about nitro finishes and watch the Poorfa/gg/ Bri/gg/ade™ come pouring out of the woodwork and start shitting all over themselves!

It's ok, just considering this a lesson learned! No need to embarrass yourself or anything.

>>73994962
lol

>>74000237
Save up then. You will spend money on a shit guitar and still feel unsatisfied because its not the mia.

>>74000237
whats your budget? im pretty sure you can find a MIA strat under 500

4:46 lmao jewish boy
https://youtu.be/pqn9FxlPPgE

>>73999820

It's the dark souls of musical instruments

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>>74000789
Not

>>74000685
I can't find one in any local store (Columbus oh) under 800 and I'm not ever sure if buying used is a safe call. I would feel okay spending the 800 if I could find a white one in good condition

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>tfw the nitro finish on my Gibson™ Custom Shop Historic R9 causes a poorfa/gg/ to convulse in hysterical tears on /gg/

>>74000237
Get a MIM

>>74001210
Best case scenario At the end of the day this will be a compromise that youre okay with until you get your mia

MIM with 57/62s and big steel block vs standard MIA stock
both set up to taste

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>>73995263
Shortscale guitar take some getting used to but they're comfy and fun to play weird chord shapes on

I got a shortscale travel acoustic, I'm pretty sure its 24 inch scale

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>>74001103
>tfw momma gave me money to paint my 2000$ toy she bought me

>>74001546
thank god i have a nice les pool

>>74001546
> i literally cannot stop sucking cocks
The image post.

>>73998276
>>73998948
>>73999320
>>74000086
>>74000384
>>74001109
all this destitution makes me sad ;____;

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>>74001637
t. Ibanez neckbeard

what's wrong with ibanez?

>>74001713
Sorry i hate ibanez wizard necks and detest the edge trem system but nice try. And they have shitty pickups and gaudy ass dont fit in anywhere but edgy teen finishes.

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>Bought a shitty Guitar+Amp Pack with some ibanez gio years ago
>Never did much with it, decided to learn to play now
>Playing for 3 weeks according to some books I got gifted once

How shit are ibanez gios?

Are there any anons here that learned only by books and/or internet and that have "made it"?

>>74001735
metal guitars are ugly as fuck

>>74001759
>telecasters are ugly
Whats wrong with you m8

which one guyse
https://clyp.it/r2upcyp3
https://clyp.it/kwhqeyhw

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>>74001759
>I buy my guitars for the looks

>>74001749
So shit that they are actually on par with your skill. Thats like a 12 year olds guitar.

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>he plays an ibeenhadz

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>>74001743
Good

>>74001784
Nice. I was maybe 15 or something when I got it.
Good enough to learn on, though?

>>74001779
2nd by far

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>>74001794
>tfw all your dreams just came true
where to cop senpai

>>74001779
Are you using a computer as an amp?

>>74001828
ywes

>>74001802
Depends how much you want to learn. If youre serious about playing an instrument you will find that you will outgrow the gio.... Fast. But sure its good to help you build callouses practice different finger positions and learn the forbidden technique: patience.

>>74001828
Doesn't everyone here?

>>74001854
Speak right son

>>74001857
Alright, so good enough for a year or two longer, I guess. Thanks.

>>74001794
Headstock isnt pointy enough and it doesnt have a faggot checkmark with the word prestige 3/10

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>>74001817
You have to slay the ibanez god, then you will be rewarded with the holy axe

>>74001877
youre not retarded you know what i answered fuck off

>>74001880
If youre not trolling you can outgrow that pos in 6 months or less.

>>74001859
So you all dont have money for a marshall half stack? Why do you even play guitar? Do you guys realize how shit it sounds?

>>74001911
Suck my dick son. Your generation doesnt appreciate shit.

>>74001916
I'm not, no. As I said, got it when I was 15 or something, so like 13 years ago or something. It's all rusty on the screws and stuff.

What exactly will I outgrow? Can't say much right now, I'm still just learning chord shapes and shit, so I really am clueless.

>>74001901
Steve vai is probably the ibanez god but the funny thing is his guitar is one of 2 guitars that ibanez makes that are actually good and they feel nothing like the other ibanez guitars.lol.

>>74001951
go home grampa, you're drunk

>>74001951
im using your mother as an amp and i appreciated it. im inserting my jack onto her input hole

>>74001967
Practice for 3 months and dont touch another guitar then go to a guitar store and try a high end guitar. You will see what im talking about. Not saying your dumbass could even appreciate a high end guitar at that stage you will feel the subtle differences that make playing that guitar more fun and "easier"

>>74002020
lol

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>>74001996
Ill be back. Post your tubes if youre still a man.

>>74002020
Alright, I'll try that.

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Never posted my rig before, but here it is. Excuse the shitty angle, had to squeeze it all into one picture in my small shitty dorm room.

>>74002131
80 bucks for the altoid pedal

>>74002131
Impeccable carpet 10/10

>he doesn't even know basic music theory

You're not a guitarist.

hey niggs help a beginner poorfag out.
Should i go for the squier bullet mustang for 133€ or for a used squier mustang vm for 250-300€ (with new bridge installed)? is it worth it to spend the extra cash?

>>74002627
Mustang vm. Trust me, it's worth it.

>>73990596
Where did you get your copy of amplitube from?
Cant seem to get amplitube 4 from anywhere. Only got 3 knocking about on a HDD somewhere.

I was shopping at guitar center yesterday and said I had an offer a hundred dollars below a price they had listed (I actually did). I offered 80 percent of their asking price for a used tele and the "polite" salesman said he had to check but probably not. He came back and said sorry, they don't usually negotiate prices on used gear. Did I get bullshitted? I offered cash and he said there was still nothing he could do, besides throw in a pack of new strings (with a 500 dollar guitar, lul)

tfw you lost weight and now you can't barre the first fret on ur acoustic without huge amounts of pressure because of ur fucked up finger shape

>>74002690
Git tubes kid. Dont cheat yourself

>>74002650
>>74002627

Sorry i mean squier jaguar vm

>>74002903
How long will it take for you to double your money?

>>74002903
Still take it

>>74002930
i already have the money, just not sure if i should start cheap while i learn, or spend a little more and have a "good" guitar ( i know its not as good as a fender or a 500€ + guitar)

>>74003123
i'd say spend the little extra, having a nice guitar helps a bit with finding the motivation to practice, it did for me anyway

What's the deal with modes? All the modes are just the same as the main scale but with a different starting point? How is that useful at all?

>>74003123
Double your money then shop then save more then buy.

What's the best value acoustic? Is it seagull?

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>>74002063
not him but posting

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is vintage v100 a good guitar

>>74002845
I want to get a little cheap practice amp for my electro acoustic.

But I need to save money so I have to just use it unamped for now.

>>74001815
ok thanks

>>73999820
Pretty easy to pick up desu, difficult once you get into some advanced stuff, although you can get by with just legato/stacatto.
I play quite a few instruments and the only one I would describe as "hard" is cello.

>>74002170
Fuckin deal
>>74002271
Thanks guy, I just vacuumed.

How much should I try to sell my Epiphone LP Studio Deluxe for? The only problem with it is a small chip in the cutaway.

>>73989781
im not the one asking

>>73999810
>>73999971

Not sure what your deal is. If I didn't plan on playing for people every now and then, I'm not sure what the point of learning the guitar would have been.

>>74002756
Tha hell. How fat were your fingers dude?

>>74003215
>a different starting point
>Build a chord on each starting point.
>See the relationships.
>???
>Profit!

>>74002720
Don't know about GC but at L&M it depends on how the gear was obtained as far as I know. They don't wiggle on on gear they've bought, and their rental gear is priced based on how much they rented it out. However gear that's traded-in can often be negotiated.

M8s I just started learning. Please tell me what memes I should be aware of.
>100usd acoustic guitar, sounds ok but I'm an amateur
>tune it with Guitartuna app on phone
>learning basic chords, rhythms
>haven't started doing bar because it's hard
>very basic tab
>fingers are numb already but no blisters

>>74004330
When you play notes or chords, you should try to apply as little pressure as possible while still maintaining the same sound. This way you'll get less cramps in your hands and your fingers will hurt less. Also, for gods sake learn some theory while you're at it so you don't become like every other Joe who can only play the same damn riffs over and over.

>>74004394
>learn some theory
I'm kinda scared of it, but I'll give it a go. Thanks.
The best I know is that semitones exist, and why it's called fifth or seventh.

>>74004394
Any good materials to study to learn some of it?

I'm genuinely quite curious myself.

>>74004429
>>74004501
In the OP:
http://www.musictheory.net/lessons

You can also check out YouTube for guitar specific tutorials.

>>74004330
Start doing barre chords asap

>>74004224
really not that fat, my finger just has a weird structure where it curves up just a bit above the g string so it mutes it slightly. before you say change technique/get stronger, nothing really helps, i have to put far too much pressure no matter where/how i hold my finger for it to be healthy

>>74004330
Just take a few hints to avoid certain bad habits and periodically get a lesson to make sure your form is progressing. Here's shit that you should definitely remember as you play:
>In picking pieces, be sure to uae alternate picking and crosspicking techniques... Same goes with strumming, use plenty of strumming techniques and avoid constant down-strum.
>Do not anchor your pick-hand middle/ring/pinky fingers on the body -- keep your hand closed -- this a common beginner mistake that hampers speed and long string-skips.
>Rest your palm on the bridge to assist with muting and compliment the previous point.
>Once you build basic finger strength and picking/strumming dexterity (which develops quickly using a beater with high action), you should work on keeping your touch as light as possible to keep from getting tense and making errors -- use the 3-point triangle check (fret-hand, string-hand, and body) to keep yourself loosey goosey.
>Play along with songs and metronome to develop rhythmic timing.
>When you're ready to invest in an instrument, pick based on playing comfort... Not looks or sound. A good neck and fretwork trumps everything else on a guitar (even sound which can be changed for a small investment) and they're usually unilateral neck profiles by type. Things like unfinished necks, vintage small or jumbo frets, and stainless steel frets versus nickel really change how a neck feels.
>You have to spend a certain amount of money to get a quality instrument, but spending thousands more won't change much aside from aesthetics usually.
>Amplification is in a weird spot right now with high-end modelling and profiling amps being indistinguishable from tube amps -- but you can never go wrong with a small tube amps. NEVER buy low end modelling, digital, or solid state amps.

>>74004725
>Amplification is in a weird spot right now with high-end modelling and profiling amps being indistinguishable from tube amps -- but you can never go wrong with a small tube amps.

There is no replacement to the spund quality of tube amps. Tube sound is distinct but the reason youre seeing a digital boom is because numale faggots are scared of decibels. Tube amps shine when they are being pushed. Alot of legendary tones came from 100 watt marshalls cranked all they way. Hendrix van halen morbid angel randy rhodes to name a few.

>>74004725
>>74004863
>all this talk about amps
I-I'm just playing vals and ballade right now... It sounds like tube amps are good, so if I ever move on to electric/e-acoustic and get good enough to justify serious investment, I'll remember that. Thank you

>>74003215
It's about context, they all have completely different feels. Your brain isn't letting you experience them as anything other than the major scale because that's what you're familiar with.

When most beginners learn modes, the start with something like C major and play within the same shape starting from D, then E, and so on. It's a good way to understand how they work, but not how they feel. Try keeping the same root note and change the shape instead. Like play C Ionian, then C Dorian, C Phrygian, etc. Also helps if you have a droning C note underneath at the same time

>>74004992
I remember I was once messing around with this chord book I had which showed me multiple fingerings for particular chords, and I remember when I tried them out they all sounded very slightly different.

I honestly thought I was going mad, but even now when I tune my guitar perfectly, and I play the same note in multiple places it always sounds just a teensy bit different to me, usually a little sharper or lighter the further down the neck you go.

I'm very much a beginner though, so I'm likely saying something stupid right now. I acknowledge that.

>>74004863
I've owned a 5150 combo, a DSL 100, a couple TSLs, a JTM 45 clone, and I currently have a couple Twin Reverb 15in customs, as well as running power brakes over the years, I know a lot about tube tone.

But when you see double blinds with the Kemplers and other comparable modelling amps, and seasoned vets frequently can't tell, it's pretty obvious they're in striking range, with even guys like Fripp going digital.
The biggest tell for me personally was when the owner of a studio I went to for years sold about 30 heads or so including Splawns, original slps, Mesas, Dr. Zs, etc -- 90% of his collection obtained over decades -- in favor of modelling/profiling gear, it was pretty clear that this isn't a meme anymore.

>>74005121
The book in question is "Picture Chord Encyclopedia" published by Hal Leonard.

It was recommended to me by a friend and I'm glad I remembered it so I could dig it back out.

i never get angry at my guitar cause when i strike a chord it gives me what i wanna hear

>>74005190
Convenience is a big factor in music production these days thus why some go from hardware that needs to be maintained to software that needs an update once in a while. And its convenient to record and emulate on the ssme machine. But i still dont believe the sound quality will ever be the same especially and inherently live playing. For recording comparable for live tube all the way

are tuning apps accurate enough?

>>74005809
Yes but do it like 4 times

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So i just ordered a harmonic percolator thats 100% accurate to the original that steve ablini uses, what would the best single coil pickup to install on a tele bridge? Looking for lots of microphonic feedback

>>74002131
sweet poverty rig bruh

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>>74006091
>he paid $335 for this
lmao holy fuck retard are you kidding me

>>74005732
You're assuming, but I'll humor you.
This guy has been running a guitar intensive studio since I was literally born, 1988, so I have a hard time believing convenience factors into it for a gearhead like this guy.
Also, you don't have to believe it, I wasn't pitching it to you. Until I try it myself I wouldn't advocate it, and I didn't either -- I just said amplification is in a weird space right now, which is cogent point.

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>>74006091
Get an old hofner colorama pickup, super clean and microphonic but in a good way. This is what they look like, they pop up on ebay from time to time.

>>74005190
>and seasoned vets frequently can't tell
You mean guys nearly deaf from standing in front of a cranked tube amp for 30+ years?

Yeah, hardly convincing evidence to say the least

>>74006218
Hes getting older of course your sugar daddy prefers convenience.

>>74006381
I guess I'll take the word of them over some nobody on /gg/. I reserve complete judgement until I demo some personally, but when many aficionados say it's good, I'm inclined to believe there is some merit to their claims.
>>74006402
Quite literally not an argument, and he did keep a handful of amps that were sentimental and appeased to people who refused to use anything else but in-shop tube amps.

>>74006553
lmao

You're probably half deaf too, can't wait to hear all about your "unbiased" results.

>>74006743
Quite the non-argument you have there, it's convincing.
I have quite a few tube amps myself, but I doubt I'll ever get rid of my fender twin 15 customs, but if modelling/profiling are a convincing facsimile then I'll dump everything else.

>>74006818
>if modelling/profiling are a convincing
Don't worry, you probably won't be able to hear the difference ;^)

>>74006867
That's fine for me, recording, and live performance I guess. I'll phone-in the verdict when I get the chance.
;:^)

>>73988557
>you can smell that fart

>>74006373
hofner pups are lovely, need to get me some

>>74006091
btw man if you're hoping to get Albini's sound he didn't use that very often (in big black days anyway)

from what i've heard he used PA speakers rather than guitar speakers to get those harsh high frequencies

still a cool pedal though

>>74006553
Its Almost like amps arent in a weird place and people who want a quality signal path coming out their amp get tube amps and people who need convenience and who need to cover up their tone with processing use computers

>>74006818
Just admit the only reason people even use modeling amp is for convenience.

>>74006935
>desperately trying to save face
Yeah, you're almost certainly some half deaf aging boomer looking for an excuse to free up some cash because you've got 25 years max left and it's finally dawned on you your rock star dreams aren't going to come true and some extra money would feel better than being surrounded by all your dead aspirations.

I nailed it, lie and say I didn't.

>>74006992
You sound like a dinosaur when you talk like that, gramps. The fact that tons of professionals use them speaks that the sound coming out of them is one of quality.
Have you tried high-end modelling/profiling gear? Can you make a convincing case or have any evidence? Or are you just talking out of your ass, gramps?

>>74007070
T. Numale

Who let the Line 6 marketing team in

>>74007016
That's a reason to use it, sure. One of the biggest appeals, of course. If the sound quality is equitable, than there's quite literally no reason to not use it.
But I'm just not passing judgement on it until I try it. I don't see the big deal in trying stuff that is making waves with plenty of people.
>>74007024
>Projecting personal insecurities onto others.
>Still no arguments.
Found the real aging failed rocker right here, shit nigga' I don't even play rock.
:^D

>>74007070
>The fact that tons of professionals use them
#1. They're deaf
#2. They're cheap. Cheap modeler, cheaper shipping when touring, cheapening the experience for their audience (lol what difference does it make no one can hear it anyway ESPECIALLY NOT ME)

You sound like a fucking retard who's fallen for some bullshit advertisement.

>>74007213
So I'm assuming you like to get fucked in the ass because its making waves with some . sounds about right normie scum

>>74007097
>I haven't tried them.
>I can't make an informed decision.
>I can't make a critique.
>Nu-insult.
kek, good to see you've got nothing left in the tank. it's crazy how up-in-arms people will get over something so small as noticing trends in guitar technology and being genuinely curious about them.

>>74007213
>hit nigga' I don't even play rock.
lmao there it is

No, you play some other style of music that requires nuanced amp distortion, right?

>>74007253
Have you tried them? Do you have any experience at all to make a valid critique?

>>74007315
Nice logical fallacies. And you havent tried them yourself you stated so whats your point retard?

>>74007351
Have you tried a high end tube amp?

>>74007330
Fusion/progressive, yeah.

>>74007351
Didn't you just get through saying you're not basing your argument on anything other than some bullshit some deaf fuckers said?

The answer to both questions is yes. Now stfu.

>>74007383
>Fusion/progressive
>F-Fripp s-said...

Holy shit, this is halarious. Please keep replying.

>>74007383
Ive been memed. Hahaha youre a fucking joke. Lol progressive fusion. Dont reply to me anymore cuck

>>74007536
No, let him keep on. I want to hear him regurgitate something the faggot from Porcupine Tree said so I can laugh hard.

>>74007353
There is no fallacies in what I said.
1. I never tried one.
2. The market is shifting if you look at professional rigs.
3. I actually recommend going with a tube amp because you can't go wrong.
Where are the fallacies?
>>74007379
I've owned a 5150 combo, a DSL, a TSL, a recroverb, and I have a Fender Twin 15 Custom and a Frommel-mod hotrod in my house right now and another 15 Custom and a Matchless Phoenix at my rehearsal space. The only one I would say I really high end is the matchless.
>>74007429
Please post where I say that I think modelling/profiling is better? I was just curious and not dismissive.
>>74007489
kk

>>74007608
Hahaha why you back pedaling dumbass bitch

>>74007608
>I never tried one.
this is all anyone needs to read
congratulations you can stfu now

roman = crazygaga

>>74007657
>>74007676
Read what I wrote. Go ahead. From the very first statement onwards. I spent the whole time saying professionals praised them but I was reserving judgement until I tried one. You just assumed like crazy, but I'm pretty eager to find out for myself without listening to anyone else. I've never seen so many (you)s and ravaged assholes in my life kek

>>74007755
see
>>74007676
you're done
take you new orifice and move along now

roman = samuel

>>74007755
Nah youre just dumb as fuck and this general points out dumbasses like you. Fucking jew rat. Go justify being a hebe and buying cheap shit for frugalities sake

roman they're not (you)s when you're replying to yourself

>>74007794
>Another wrecked asshole bringing up a point I never once refuted and not relevant to my initial observation.
>>74007825
I have quite a few tube amps anon, kek.

My god, all these tender assholes and you.

>>74007877
Upload something crazyaga

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Watch how its done, /gg/.

I'll show you the way.

>>74007955
But he took his trip off because hes already been filtered.

>>74007940
crazyaga has no tube amps just a bunch of pedais

>>74007955
>>74008002
I'm not a tripfag if that's what you're getting at. Tripfags would just make a new trip.

>>74008026
Upload something or stfu

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watch me /gg/
learn

>>74008067
http://sendvid.com/5gta2kgh
http://sendvid.com/l5dewy2p
http://sendvid.com/uvdw4tgk

>>74008159
What are they putting in the sopa de macaco these days

So lads I'm looking to replace the Boss Super Chorus on my board because it's pretty boring and I don't use it often, any pedals that are very versatile without being a Line 6 multi-effects fuckfest?
I was looking at the Electro-Harmonix Tone Tattoo and that's looking like a good contender atm.

>>74008264
worm meat from mcdonalds

>>74008340
Ahh so the quality of meat is improving in brazil.

WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE NEW GUITAR HEROES?!
whos inspiring kids to learn guitar who AREN'T just faux-blues rockers or acoustic strummers

legitimately can only think of st vincent, and even then she's quite niche for kids to find.

>>74008375
everything is improving in brazil ;^)

>>74008375
yeah its the same standard on every branch of the burger company you know

>>74008402
So far down in the cesspool only way possible to go now is up

>>74008399
There are almost none for young people because guitars have left mainstream pop music almost entirely.
Bands that are heavy and popular (mostly pop-punk or offshoot metalcore/screamo outfits) usually don't have any intricate or significant guitar work either.
The closest I can think of are the guitarists in Avenged Sevenfold since they've only grown in popularity since 2008.

>>74008454
Did you start listening to music in 2008? Fucking faggot

>>74008509
No? I don't see your point.

>>74008454
any good footage of that avenged sevenfold guy? only footage ive seen of him looks like hes just playing the typical guitar-center shred stuff.

WHY IS EVERY RG450 LISTED AT MSRP
IT'S BEEN OUT FOR 6 YEARS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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I always laugh when I see some dumb 19 year old buying a guitar. It's like why, you dumb fuck? Why waste your time and money? You don't know guitar based music is deader than horse shit? What the fuck do you think's going to happen? Why do you think everybody in their late 20s and early 30s stops playing in bands? Go take a look at the lineups of all the popular music festivals these days. What's the average age of most of those bands? Why do you think that is? I'll tell you why: because being poor as shit is only fun when you're a stupid ass kid. Just as soon as your peer group moves on to adult pursuits you look fucking retarded playing the "cool kid who plays in a band". Trust me, when all your family and friends have stable jobs, kids, and nice houses your "artistic poverty" playing shitshows out of an old dilapidated rust covered van won't measure up anymore. It's like.. think about what your doing, you dumb little shit. What are you trying to achieve? Do you really think you'll be one of the lucky few who'll wins the lottery and has a successful career in music? I mean, really? Do you really think you're talented and smart enough to succeed in the music industry? Are you fucking stupid?

And don't give me all that "I do it for myself" bullshit either. lol, no fuck you don't. You're doing it in the hopes that one day it'll garner you some peer recognition, you're hoping it'll help you climb up socially one day. You do it because you're a fucking loser who wants to desperately escape the societal pecking order you feel has marginalized you. Name a famous guitarist who started off wealthy. Oh, you can't? That's who you think you are, loser. You want that same success and you know it. Only problem with your plan is noone cares because guitar music doesn't matter anymore

Go to school, get a real job, and stop wasting your time trying to score "cool points" with other impressionable moron kids like you. You ain't gonna make it, you fucking idiot

Get a fucking clue

>>74008528
he's probably trying to say your point is invalid since, even if it may be truth that "modern pop music" diteche guitars, many great songs from the past used guitars
so there's still a reason people still buy guitars nowadays

t. poorfa/gg/ to normie translator

>>74008545
Their more recent stuff is a lot more sophisticated than the GC wank, and their slow songs usually have pretty decent melody work.

>>74008528
That band is everything wrong with modern music. Its all marketing. The guys just a copycat player.

>>74008566
if i stopped playing guitar for hours per day i'd neck myself desu

>>74008608
The question posed was who is /now/ considered a "guitar hero" that is spotlighted enough to encourage kids to go out and buy a guitar.
>>74008621
That doesn't mean he's not inspiring younger people to play guitar. I see kids buying his weirdly shaped signature model all the time.

>>74008623
Dont respond to pasta

>>74008623
i stopped now i just stay at the pc

>>74008656
And then its in a corner collecting dust in 3 months. They only get a guitar because they are trendy normie faggots.

>>74008566
Most of the musicians I respect most (ie most jazz musicians) aren't wealthy and many have other jobs. If you're into playing music only for the money or fame you're only setting yourself up for failure and shitty music. You don't need to be a top 40 musician to leave your mark in history.

>>74008683
Okay? What difference does it make.
He's still causing kids to go out and buy a guitar, I'm not debating whether or not he's any good.

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hi

>>74008721
Yo nice crazyaga drawing dude.

>>74008721
LOL I BAITED THEM IM AN EPIC OLDFAG xD!

>>74008711
So buying a chinese katana in a flea market would make me a shogun?

kek should we tell them?

>>74008767
I really don't understand your point.
The question was "Who is currently inspiring young people to go out and buy a guitar?" and that guy is. I'm not saying he's good or bad.

>>74008788
Kung fu movies make you think you wanna do karate but once you realize you have to work for it most dont entertain the idea further. Same with guitar. The only things these guys are promoting is shit guitar companies making shit guitars at a retarded price to clueless impressionable teenagers like you

>>74008785
No, let it ride.

>>74008881
Okay. That still isn't the point. He's still making people go out and buy guitars. It doesn't matter if he's bad or the guitars are poorly made.
You don't have to be so frustrated just because some punk 20-something with a pinstripe mess can sell more plywood guitars and oversaturated albums than you.

>>73989794
I like some of the Supro amps like the 1605 reverb, but at that price, I can get something a bit more affordable.

>>74008941
Youre missing the point. The guy aint inspiring anyone just marketing guitar. Youre probably a fucking jew supporting the bastardization of a once high art.

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you guys like what I've done with the place?

>>74008996
The sentiment behind the two statements of "inspiring someone to play guitar" and "marketing guitar" are unfortunately inseparable at this point.
I don't condone it, I don't care either way to be honest.
If you really want it to just be about someone who isn't making billions of dollars off of what they do, then look at someone like Rob Scallon.

>>74009003
Is that your room?
Should i let him know what ive been doing?

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You remember when I told you to watch?

Long story short i just got 5k. Is it too late to play guitar(im 18) i want to buy a good guitar and amp but literally know nothing. Should i get a fender?

>>74009230
Look into something outside of Fender and Gibson.

>>74009257
Like who?

>>74009407

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>>74009428
PRS SE, Jackson, Charvel, look into used guitars too.

>>73998882
>pinch harmonics
Oh boy...

>>73999227
>>73999277
Oh boy. We have some tough guys on here.. I can care less I'm not some attention whore with multiple social media accounts. You act like you're going to ruin my life by me making a stupid decision. Lol. How does that virginity feel bud?