/prod/ general - ywn be Madlib edition

Who?

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hi bitsnake here

fig1.
https://clyp.it/klao5lgr

fig2.
https://clyp.it/yz2ymgp5

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I wish I knew the names of sounds so I could speak intelligibly and be able to search up tips for perfecting them

I'm a fucking bumbling idiot

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I want to get into amateur home recording and I play guitar. I was thinking of getting a multiFX pedal that could be also used as an usb audio interface to record stuff but apparently using just a sound interface and software to get different sounds is better. Is that correct?

If so, what interface should I get? My two main options are the Focusrite Scarlett Solo and the Behringer U phoria.

Also, could I practice/play along songs using an interface? i have good headphones(AKG K240 Mk II)

>>73540059
Yes, a multfx pedal interface will have both crappy effects and will be a crappy interface. Get an actual interface

Most anything behringer is shit, so get the scarlett. I'd suggest getting the 2i2 rather than the solo, because if you stick with recording you are almost 100% going want to upgrade to using multiple mics after not too long.

Yes you can play along. One way to do it would be to just drop the song into your DAW, hook up your interface and play along on another track. Or just get the amplitube app, then you can use that to play along while having itunes open or whatever.

>>73540162
Why would I want multiple mics? I plan on plugging the guitar on the computer, not miking the amp. Although that can happen some day, but at first I won't be able to afford an sm57.

>>73540314
Once you learn more about recording, you'll want to expand and have more flexibility. Trust me

Also try and find things used on ebay to save money

>>73540314
>>73540162
>>73540059

I promise if you want to record di and get a scarlett you're going to have a really shitty time

stop suggesting the 2i2 it's shit for recording

>>73540493
It would make sense for you to suggest an alternative

>>73540057
ask me

>>73540493
Why would I have a shitty time. Please explain.

Should I wait and get the interface + sm57 and record through my amp?

https://clyp.it/un3zf15h

Hey, is there anything about this mix that can be improved on? Also is my production good?


>>73539693

This is good

willing to get into techno, any particular plugin recommended

>>73540556
ur 22, roland quad capture, id14, literally anything else lol

>>73540749
zero headroom and very dark sounding pres. it's just a huge easilly avoided headache

I had one, my sss strat clipped the thing with ease. google it and literally everyone has problems with that thing

>>73540057
word there are so many specific synth sounds that I wanna look up but I have no idea how to describe them properly...
like there's this one that kinda sounds like a chipmunk voice doing vowels but idk if that makes sense to anyone but me... it's probably just a vocal sample in a sampler...

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What is the most tweakable acoustic drumkit VST?

Is there any VST that beats Guitar Rig in terms of cab, mic + positioning emulation?

>>73540057
Once you understand the definitions of the following and know how they sound, it should all click for you.

>Leads
>Bass
>Pads
>Percussive
>LFO / Modulation
>Sine Wave
>Saw Wave
>Square Wave
>Triangle Wave
>Attack
>Sustain
>Decay
>Release
>High Pass Filter
>Low Pass Filter
>Band Pass Filter
>Format
>Bit Crush
>Chorus
>Delay
>Reverb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesizer

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>>73541236
Probably Abbey Road Modern Drummer, along with other Kontakt kits.

>>73541236
can't say for heads but the cabs in gr suck as. kathallen sounds a lot better to me

>>73541236
>acoustic drumkit
superior drummer, addictive drums

>beats Guitar Rig
bias amp

>>73541236
>Is there any VST that beats Guitar Rig in terms of cab, mic + positioning emulation?
Use Guitar Rig or Amplitube to simulate the amp heads, then use impulse responses to simulate the cab

redwirez.com

>>73541355
http://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/native-instruments-guitar-rig-5-pro-505095

>Incidentally, Control Room Pro uses RedWirez impulse responses, which are some of the best we've tried, and having them accessible via such a friendly, flexible interface only enhances their usability.

WHAT NOW HUH

>>73541941
plenty more than those are available

>>73540980
Apparently if I use a direct box the issue is fixed. How about that?

>>73542246
Then you have to buy a direct box, and a good one is about the same price as the scarlett

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https://clyp.it/p1ey1dpq

This is far from finished but I figured it'd be a good time to check in and get some feedback. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, especially on the transition to the chattery orchestral part. I want it to be jarring but not to the extent that it takes you out of the music.

>>73542246
why not just put that money toward buying an interface without a problem lol

>>73540857
>https://clyp.it/un3zf15h
The volume difference between the melody and the beat is way too big, you should turn that sample up. The delay between the kick and the snare is also driving me insane, if that was intentional I'd give it a bit more space so it doesn't just sound like an accident.

I really love the weird vocal sampling, it's got a nice whimsy to it.

Holy shit after 1:05 things really get interesting, this is great. However, I'd recommend altering the drums so that they change with the music. They kind of stick out just keeping the same beat

Can I bump it
(yes I can)

>>73539693
in fig1, 0:20 to 0:27 really hurts my right ear and makes my eyes water

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>Working on putting together demos on my own track-by-track
>Have a few songs that I've started recording/writing but am starting to get tired of
>Still a good amount of work to do before they're even playable as demos
Should I abandon them and start a new song that I'm more interested in or should I try and improve/finish them out even if it's just for practice?

>>73543214
Get in the habit of actually finishing things or be doomed to being like every other amateur with hundreds of hlf naked songs

Also polishing things is a skill you have to practice too man

>>73543295
>tfw my only real music talent is polishing and fleshing out/layering
>can't for the life of me put together the skeleton of a new song

>>73541130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwz8JVD2QVM

Is it this sound? It's a speak and spell.

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>>73543295
Not what I wanted to hear but you're definitely right. I'll stick with it.

Shit's frustrating, I wish I could work faster and have a lot more material to work with but it feels like it takes me forever just to come up with one part. Let alone basslines and drums and lyrics and everything else. There's a friend of mine I really want to work with but we tried jamming and it's like he can just come up with something good without even thinking about it while I have to sit there and go back and forth for what feels like ages. Fuck

I guess it wouldn't be worth doing if it was easy though.

>>73543446
(How do I find people that can actually hang in a jam?)

Hey guys, I just got into home recording and been playing a lot with microphone placement, but I want
to get this kind of piano tone. How can I achieve it? Could it be because of small sized room?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i0d6CPLSGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mukiMaOSLEs

>>73542582
Apparently the first gen 2i2 had a lower Max Input Level(+4dBu) and the first gen 2i4 had +13dBu (pad in) The second gen 2i2, 2i4 and solo all have Maximum input level +13 dBu. That means it probably won't clip, so it's okay.

where do yall get yours samples?

I don't live near a record store.

>>73543790
He added reverb to that after recording. Honestly it's possible that it's not even a real piano.

>>73543890
>record store
lol

literally anywhere my man. reddit's got some stuff

>>73543869
i'm sure they're an improvement, but I wouldn't take the risk considering their track record

>>73544051
What's a safe max input level? The second gen levels seem safe. The issues people had were all on the first gen versions.

I tried to make a King Crimson song sound like OK Computer-era Radiohead

https://clyp.it/npt4npxt

Thoughts?

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Hey /prod/ how's work?

>>73545300
I finally came up with a song idea good enough to pursue after a two month stretch of nothing and made good early progress on it, so I'm quite happy with today's work

>>73545482
iktf anon. I have to work with minimal shit. If I had a decent computer, I'd have to work with. but when you're on bare bones FL it's pretty tought to work with.

>>73545008
it goes hard

>>73545300
Two weeks of doing nothing man. Literally nothing. Haven't worked on a single track.
I wanted to focus on university but it's all fucked. I decided I'll join the navy cause I'm gonna get kicked if I don't drop out. My grades are fucked but at least I'll get a microphone soon.

>>73545300
I keep on making 10/10 synth patches that sound like some arca type crazy but I can't get around how bad of a songwriter I am :(

I finished lyrics for one of the last songs I have left on an so yesterday though so that's good \('_')/

>>73544593
safe input level..?
Well now I have to assume you're working with hardware synths so I guess what I was saying earlier doesn't matter since you can control your volume more easily

There's not a "safe" level with this stuff, clipping is just 0s and 1s, you're not doing any harm

>>73545959
At least you're looking up

>>73545997
I feel you anon, for the past week I've not been able to think of anything to work on. I just keep making a bass line hoping something will pop out. And the only REAL tool I got to work with is 3XOSC which gets boring after a time

>>73546070
Isn't the input level that determines how loud the instrument can be without clipping after going through the interface? From what I understood from other people having clipping issues with the first gen scarlett interfaces, the gain control didn't go low enough and the guitars and basses clipped, requiring a direct box to attenuate the guitar signal before going into the interface.
Now the second gen scarlett interfaces have a higher max input level, meaning it can "handle" higher volume instruments like guitars without needing a direct box. Isn't this what a higher max input level means?
Sorry if I sound like a bumbling retard, I'm just getting into recording.

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I've noticed I find it really easy to come up with vocal melodies while playing the bass.

Is there a limitation to this because you can't play chords or is it perfectly possible to have implied 7th chords in your head as you play bass and sing?

>>73546610
Just play the 7th too..?

It just depends what you want, fill in he chords appropriately after you have a melody and root note, don't worry about it

>>73546344
"Input level" sounds more like it's referencing the source volume rather than preamp gain

I'm not sure of the exact range, I read about the 1st gen range on gear slutz a while back and it was objectively rated shit compared to other interfaces. I don't understand the math behind it so I can't really tell you what a safe gain range is desu

I did find a work around with di by using a pedal in between to lower my volume but meh. A di box is really rather redundant because scarletts already have hi-z inputs or whatever.

>>73546344
(Forgot to even answer your question lol)

Yes you've got the right idea, though you should look up line mic and instrument levels if you don't already get what a di box is supposed to be for

>>73542429
is that a goya painting?

>>73543790
Yeah those are piano vsts, not the real deal. If you really wanted to recreate that sound I would record the piano as dry as possible and then add the reverb in post

Don't die

I feel awful right now, just wasted 2 hours on this. https://clyp.it/ao3pfxmu
I don't think I should just fuck around anymore. It makes me feel so bad after.

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>>73549400
I think it's very nice, anon. A bit generic, but it certainly has potential. Drums are the weakest part, but the lead and vocaloid are fantastic.

https://clyp.it/3ipt4jqc
Made this while smoking and jamming with a friend. Critique please <3

>>73542997
thats the point, baby

>>73545997
Can you post a couple on clyp please?
Really curious.

I'm just starting out and I want to start watching tutorials about the basics, but for the next few months I'll mostly have time when I'm away from the computer, so does anyone have some good beginner tutorials that don't need a big screen to see what the guy's doing, so I can watch them on my phone?

I'm using Ableton, so preferably stuff that's not exclusive to other DAWs.

Thank you in advance.

>>73543890
Youtube to dig then soulseek.

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Is there a hardware unit like Maschine not for beats, but for ambient? Like slowly evolving drones?

how to do these effect starting @ 1:30
https://youtu.be/c4KQZ61vB54?t=1m30s

>>73549767
You could read a book!!!

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Guys talking about getting a juno or a jupiter or whatever just get this fucking thing, more stable and actually sounds sentient

how do i make serum sound good?

>>73550412
the maschine is just a controller, it could just as easily make ambient as hip hop

>>73550423
I already have books, but need video tutorals too, since hearing the sounds and seeing the teachings being applied helps me learn much better.

>>73550688
Seems more beat focused, do you have one? I'd rather have a unit that was geared up for ambient instead of going against the grain of it or off its path

>>73550919

Think about what a controller set up for ambient music would need then - what would you need that Maschine (or Push, or any controller that facilitates high levels of integration with your music software) doesn't give you?

So you can trigger sound sources, you can manipulate them in real time, you can add effects to them and you can layer them - what are we missing?

>>73550442
>sounds sentient
what?

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>>73550412
>slowly evolving drones

That's more a function of the sound that you're using rather than the way you're triggering it, but as an addition to >>73551131 one thing that you would probably find useful is an interactive mod matrix that's based on physics and collision detection like you get in Lemur and in TouchOSC apps.

>>73551131
I want to do real time ambient without mouse clicking and dragging. Its a question if you can do long samples on maschine that you can morph into others and not be bound by beat sequencer. Thought someone may know of something other than a synth

>>73551893

If it's not a synth (or sampler) then it would be a controller, and your choice of synth or sampler to control would be what makes your evolving sounds - all the controller would do is give you access to the synth or sampler's parameters.

Maschine is as good at that as others, but I'm inclined to think that some sort of generative feature, like the bouncing balls in Lemur and TouchOSC mentioned above would be something that you'd enjoy using, especially live.

Years ago there was a program called KoanX that also used bouncing balls and collision detection to generate MIDI data - I used it in the Win95/98 days (so did Brian Eno it seems) but I'm sure the last version I had also claimed to work on NT versions of Windows. The developers of that have diversified now and it might be worth looking at their current projects:

https://intermorphic.com/sseyo/koan/

>>73542429
Anyone?

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rusty again. posted this in the last thread but didn't get any feedback. worked on it a little bit more and posting here again.

https://clyp.it/u44f0euz

>>73545300
I'm working on a dark ambient projekt
https://clyp.it/fbdweqht

>>73552493
Thanks, I'm not so into the moving circles on a screen around, maybe try out maschine at a shop

looking for autotune recs. is downloading a free autotune plugin worthwhile or should i pirate a quality one?

>>73553234
melodyne is the only thing you ever want to use when it comes to that

>>73542429
>>73552704
Sorry this mix is terrible
Too much high end clashing with those crashes, too much distortion.... I'm guessing the drums sound robotic like that intentionally..?

The part you were asking about wasn't jarring at all

https://clyp.it/taedj5ff

Too much reverb, do you think? I am working on the drums now, hats are next, but I have no idea what Im doing

>>73549474
Anyone? Please?

IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO

>>73553287
The mix is definitely awful right now, I've only worked on it through my headphones so it probably sounds like trash through most other speakers
And yeah, I was ideally going for that kind of Sissy Spacek sound with the drums

>>73549544
https://clyp.it/lblgky3b
https://clyp.it/mgqxdb2s

>>73549474
>>73553525
>poz
no gay lingo here plz

before 1:50 is too formless imo. it was cool for like a minute

>>73553746
Dude, I think that track sounds really interesting, but the mix is much worse than just bad. You need new headphones at fucking once

>>73553915
and Im jamming out to Isle la Borracho atm, so you know Im not pissy or anything, I just want you to hear what I hear

>>73553915
They're perfectly fine headphones, I think the issue is just that I wanted to emulate sounds like this, which may not be the best direction to head in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHUc6zy73W0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNgWqi3JLp0

I was certainly going for abrasive

>>73553960
No, of course! I really appreciate it either way, man. I'm tweaking it right now and playing with a less abrasive mix

https://clyp.it/atx2n1vg

hi i may or may not be bitsnake

I'm relatively new to production, this is one of my first attempts. It's an intro to a prog metal thing i'm doing. Looking for feedback from anyone who knows their shit

https://clyp.it/j3egngc0

this is my first track and I have no idea what I'm doing. please fix me

clyp.it/qunxxrfh?token=d961f87489225b65281600f40dca42ad

>>73553761
Not bad character-wise

>>73552493
>Years ago there was a program called KoanX that also used bouncing balls and collision detection to generate MIDI data
That was super crude though, you can do much more sophisticated stuff in Max/MSP or whatever.

Recommend a simple stupid sequencer for playing with when bored. onlinesequencer is great but it lags as hell. I'd like something similar on the desktop (Loonix) if possible.

>>73554823
>bitsnake
if you're really 15 you're going to be really good some day.... maybe

stop advdrtising yourself

>>73555235
I do what I can \(^_^)/

>>73555863
They're nice.
What did you use?

>>73555925
absynth 5 going granular
massive
fm8

w-e-w

>>73555971
Interesting, thank you.

Any inspiring technique that you're willing to share with us?

>>73556007
I didn't think those bits were that interesting <.<

It's stupid easy to get weird noises with granular synthesis, I don't get why more people aren't into it

Modulate everything in massive. It's no secret that fine tuning those envelopes are where you get your patches right

https://instaud.io/12tq

*farts*

>>73556127
Yeah, for some reason I've always known about it but never got into it for some reason.
Might try it now. thank you.

>>73540905
massive, sylenth1, nexus, serum
you know, the usual

>bought FL almost ten years ago
>never had the discipline to do more than a couple of hours with it
Should I start again?

>>73543890
looperman and freesound are really good options

>>73550458
learn sound design

>>73556649
if you want to

>>73556827
How many hours before a person becomes a bit competent? 100 hours?

>>73556860
idk, it took me like 2 months to understand the basics but that's because at first I wasn't really dedicated to learning

does anyone know how to make a synth lead like the one at 1:56?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYiKPkciJ-4

did akai ever recover?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dvnz2N9-U0

>>73555820
heh
thanks

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Can anyone help me troubleshoot why I'm not getting sound in Ableton with asio4all?
I've been trying to get my M-Audio Fasttrack USB interface working so I downloaded the most recent drivers (which aren't updated Windows 10, but apparently they should still work), and asio4all.
Here are my settings, any idea what the problem is? I have this exact setup on my laptop with Windows 8 and it seems to work.

>>73556988
Supersaw on the JP-8000 going through a blend of bandpass and highpass, high resonance with keyboard tracking control the cutoff at 100%, sounds like there's a very short delay creating a flanger sound too

Could be a sampled note of the JP-8000 played back thru a sampler too

I unironically like this beat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9J8w6aldSg
does anyone know how to make something similar?

>>73557741
also I forgot, the supersaw is mixed with a second noise osc on the JP-8000

>>73557741
>>73557792
THANKS

i can't get my midi keyboard onto my desk, and it's too big for my lap.

should i swap to my laptop or suck it up and ditch the midi for now?

Anyone want to listen to this track I threw together as a goof last night?

https://clyp.it/5a22yo1l

It's not terrible imo, actually

>>73557737

Why are you using ASIO4All when your M-Audio device has its own ASIO driver that gets installed?

>>73557842
can you seriously not decide this for yourself?

>>73557748
i mean it's kind of funny... i'll take it you're being serious

fuck load of trap/808 samples with too much reverb

unsubtle distortion...

presets with reverse reverb if you want. not hard

>>73557737
.... are those ableton settings? that's not what ctrl+, brings up for me lol

>>73557306
yeah there shit's kind of embarassing

I fucked around with my friends rhythm wolf a while back and got it sounding decent through a fuzz factory... I mean their shit's still usable, just don't expect it to be versatile or do what you want it to

>>73556860
competent meaning..? learning the daw and synth basics or what? that should take a few months or so. maybe 4ish months to a year to start kind of liking what you're doing, it depends on where you're starting from and how hard you work at it

>>73557842
post pic or decide for yourself >:)

>>73557915
i'm probably the most indecisive person on the planet

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>>73557914
Are you talking about this? Under these settings I still don't get sound (however, Ableton shows up in the sound mixer, which I guess is a step up).

>>73557737
Go to ableton preferences and fool around with that, restrt afterward

>>73557927
>.... are those ableton settings?

It's the ASIO4All control panel

>>73557996
>>73557979
change the device lol

>>73557979

Read the tile bar of your Windows volume mixer - it's outputting audio to your built-in audio device (Realtek) and not your M-Audio interface.

ASIO should be bypassing that mixer anyway and connecting Ableton directly to your hardware, so Ableton shouldn't be showing up in the Windows mixer.

>>73557842
Why did you buy a midi controller that doesn't fit on your desk?

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>>73557927
>>73558168
I've had it for a couple years, and it fit on my old one

>>73556860
Try 1000 hours
10000 hours to become proficient

>>73558184
so it's between the keyboard and the dolls is it?

fuckin weebs

>>73558184
Why did you buy a desk that doesn't fit the midi controller you use?

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>>73558250
:^)
>>73558310
because i only just recently got back into production

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>>73558164
the problem seems to be that ableton isn't outputting anywhere, not even to my Fast Track
I'm getting the signals, just no sounds. I'm supposed to be using the m-audio asio driver, right?
Tried a bunch of random fixes like turning off system sounds, messing with wavetable settings, reinitializing the cpu load meter thing. Nothing seems to work.

>>73558328
I wish I had a desk and all this shit

I wish I lived alone where I could openly be a degenerate

Keep the dolls and cum on them friend

(swap to laptop)

>>73558416

You're still looking at the Windows mixer anon - ASIO does not use it. It bypasses it so any settings in the Windows mixer are irrelevant.

I'd start from scratch - uninstall the M-Audio drivers AND ASIO4All, then re-install the M-Audio drivers. Set Ableton to use the M-Audio ASIO driver and ignore the Windows mixer.

If you're still getting no sound, check in Device Manager that your M-Audio device is installed properly.

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>>73552855
I use Maschine for dark/dub ambient type stuff I'd imagine it'd be really good for noise too. You get a decent amount of top quality native instruments effects and synths thrown in too which makes it a real bargain. Be sure to go and demo the studio version though as it works much better than the micro and standard Maschine as those big screens really help you out and there is not much menu diving.
Apart from naming samples and naming projects which you need the computer screen and keyboard for I use mine with my computer monitor off and it works really well, you can arrange, sample, re-sample,edit samples, automate, load plugins and everything else all from the Maschine studio. I've not touched my "proper" daw since buying my Maschine about 3 years ago. Just work your way through the manual reading only the bits that refer to the hardware and ignore all the software stuff and you'll never have to touch your mouse again.

What's the deal with making money with a mixtape or something?

I live outside the US. If I go outside and get someone to buy a tape that has a bunch of samples (none of them free or authorised).. am I a criminal then?

I mean, this is ignoring the fact that I use pirated software too - that's harder to detect

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>>73559019
This is what I wanted to hear thank you, so its ok for no beats at all?

>I use mine with my computer monitor off
Living the drea

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Any tips for transcribing rhythms? A lot of the time I just give up because I can't even find where to put the notes while organizing them in some reasonable fashion and maintaining the meter.

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Can anyone recommend Books on Audio soundsystem setup / engineering ( specially for outdoor locations)?

>>73558969
Shit's getting real disheartening. Tried everything you said, nuttin.
I don't think it's a problem with my device, it's between Ableton and ASIO I think, because I still get the signals when I use the ASIO audio device in Ableton.
I really don't want to have to use MME/DirectX, that latency shit is terrible.

>>73559395

Yeah it's next to useless m8 - let's test something else then?

What do you use as your audio editor? Most editors can use ASIO drivers for their output (not Audacity though although you can compile your own copy with ASIO support) so if you have another ASIO application (download the Reaper trial maybe?) does that work ok?

>>73559395
Did you get here?

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/211476789-Audio-Interface-Configuring-the-inputs-and-outputs

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>>73559395

give me one (1) good reason not to just put a fucking reverb on my stereo bus

>>73559709
Downloaded Reaper, EXACT same problem. Gets signals with the M-Audio ASIO audio device enabled, no sound at all.
Starting to think that the M-Audio drivers are 100% retardedly incompatible with Windows 10.
Fuck.
>>73559837
Not sure how this is supposed to help honestly.

>>73559880
Then you can't give different elements of the mix different amounts of reverb, and you can't give different elements of the mix different kinds of reverb

>>73559880
Because you'll sound like a hobbyist audio engineer with a beard and tight shorts from the 80s

>>73559960
I thought I disabled my webcam

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>>73559960

>>73560127
>>73559960
>who's the bigger feg

everybody here sounds like a hobbyist tho so TOO BAD

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>>73560158
embrace it

>>73559915

Right then - something else to try, seeing as Windows 10 is a bit on the fucked up side when it comes to how it reserves audio devices, you WILL have to go back to the Windows mixer for this bit.

Make sure (when you have your M-Audio interface plugged into the USB port, but before you start ASIO via Ableton) that Windows is using your built-in Realtek audio device as the default for FUCKING EVERYTHING - inputs, outputs, the lot, speakers headphones etc...

There's a post on the MS support website that mentions this - it seems that Win 10 likes to have exclusive access to audio hardware and if it does that ASIO will not be able to hook up with your device:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/asio-driver-support-in-windows-10/dff0530a-545e-436a-808e-5c0669829fa0

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>>73560710
Have Windows use your built-in realtek audio device for everything as opposed to what?
Isn't that how it was supposed to be?
Also I can't follow those instructions because I don't have a universal asio device, just the shitty m-audio asio driver.
But anyway, tried it, same shit.

>>73560710
Got it working mate. Feel like I wasted half my day trying to get this shit to work, but hey, whatever.
Thanks for all your help.

One other question: Is it possible to use audio in various applications while ASIO is in use in Ableton? For example, I can't watch Youtube videos or basically listen to anything besides Ableton while I'm all plugged in.

>>73561433

You still had the inputs (The "Recording" tab) set to use the M-Audio device and not the Realtek, didn't you?

ASIO is exclusive too, like the Windows 10 driver model it seems - it has sole access to your audio device while it is using it and nothing else can use it at the same time. The rationale is that when you're using an ASIO application the work you do there takes priority over all other tasks - to build an ASIO software mixer that takes inputs from other applications would add latency, just as it does when Windows puts a mixer into the chain.

>>73561566
>>73561308

Meant to add - "Universal ASIO" as referred to in that MS thread is referring to ASIO4All - there are no universal ASIO devices as such but ASIO4All attempts (pretty well when there are no alternatives) to be a Universal ASIO driver.

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https://clyp.it/hzdbmmuz

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>>73561566
Nah, in fact, it's working with the M-Audio device selected.
Turns out that ASIO4ALL worked all along. Just needed to alter the WDM Device List settings a bit... Fantastic.

btw, any idea what a good amp vst is? Used to use something called Guitar Rig, which I can still get, but I'm not sure if there are any other good alternatives.

>>73561764
turn down the noise sweeps, turn down the voice bounce a slight less reverb on the initial wob, maybe a touch less on the rest of the vocals, scoop out some of the fundamental frequencies of the bass from the other elements that are clashing in that area

try exporting/freezing your tracks to audio and begin composing them other wise

your bass sweeps are nice but not even close to loud enough in the mix they compete for frequencies that (MAY)not need to be there

i think this will sound very nice as an intro if you can clean up each channel so only the needed content is there and then slam the transients through a limiter so there is only loud, clear noises competing for only their respective ranges

>>73561912
You're really milking /prod today, go to google now, give a man a fish he keeps wanting his hand held

>>73561949
Thanks, you're right, I did it quickly for fun, also the drums are way to quiet bounced like that I just realised, maybe mono compatibility issue. Probably going to leave it for something else

>>73561912

Glad you've got the fucker working anyway - I'm using Peavey ReValver when I need stomp box emulations, and Scuffham S-Gear when all I need is an amp and maybe some default effects. They both have their uses so I'd hesitate to say that one is better than the other.

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>Got Reason 9.5 with vst compatibility
>automation doesn't work

Why do I suffer so?

>>73559880
Because you can't process the wet signal independent from the dry signal

>>73561764
god damn that girl a qt
where is the rest of your song -_____________-

>>73561964
makes me so >:( when people don't google before asking like /prod/ is full of technical sages

>>73562150
stop replying to b8

>>73562186
She's from a documentary 'Weiner' lot more of her there.

That's all of the song, just something to post

>>73562007
im sure its not a mono compatibility problem, your rip is stereo, there are no drums i thought.

>>73562150
what if it has a wet/dry feature


https://clyp.it/cm4am5ik

ive heard this song so many times im just bored of it and fresh ears are always good so if anyone else has commentary its welcome as fuck, i posted it earlier but i deleted it because im a little bitch

>>73562418
I'll try and fix some of it..

>>73562418
drums are a little jungly for my taste, i think you could fuck with some gate action glitcy beat repeat on those hats though (in the middle part)

i don't like that sax(?) in the background at all lol

how do i into sick wubz like these

>>73552723
Anyone??

>>73561764
Slightly better but would need a lot eqing like >>73561949
said to get right

https://clyp.it/yisdxgyn

>>73552723
>>73562616
>no feedback two threads in a row

sorry i lol'd

sorry i don't like it. it's kind of hard to critique this remix type of stuff.

there's like a huge disparity between the drums and vocals. your drums don't sound appropriate, that kick especially sounds amateurish next to such polished sounds. the clickity clackin is cool but needs more variation

like your drums just keeeeep going when they coud make a really chill groove that would make more sense. i'm thinking along thelines of burial :)

i can hear like a million ways your bass could better make these *implied* chords, it's very boring as is.

that ending melody should be like.... plucky, playful, and more STACCATO you dig? like quirky off beat.

so basically change everything and it would be v chill :) (half joking i'm saying it has potential)

>>73562557
but muh jungle influence, ive been trying to balance the drums and variate them for like 2 weeks, finding it very difficult to get the vibe i have in mind but i might just do it and make it less raggo jungle more neuro hoppy sorta style throughout and get rid of the bright breaks

i also just realised that there is a whole vocal bus not activated lol

the wubz are made in serum, i spend a lot of time making patches, samples, atmospheres etc in their own sessions so that i can resample them later, but an understanding of how audio works within the daw and into a limiter are important aswell as well as an understanding of where elements are in the spectrum and how the balance between the low/mid/highs sort of forces how you interpret them.

the wubs in that if i remember correctly are a sine wave FM'd by another wavetable in osc B which is FM'd by a square in the sub osc then lots of modulation and processing. various things are attached to the macro knobs like 3 or 4 to each and then automated within the daw.

a big part of getting these sounds are using proper parallel compression, but again an understanding of the balance is an important thing because if you process the parallel differently you will be changing outcome from the master

>>73562418
Drums are a bit loud for me. Hard to focus on interesting ambient stuff. Also mix is just a touch too bright for my ears, what are your speakers like? You can De-ess cymbals / hi hats. Must be hard doing D and B jungle on your ears, need to take many breaks.

The snare is not quite good tonally; sounds stretched / pitched up, perhaps layer a clap or I don't know. Doesn't have a nice smack

Aside from that its good. Did you watch the show Noisy with the EDM guys; Afrojack, makes his dance tracks by using his own template, and just swaps out the sounds. Saves him time, don't think anyone in the crowd notices ha

>>73562798
>FM'd by another wavetable

fuckin hell i didn't even know serum could do that.now i want it that much more -_________-
fuck fm8 (just kidding i <3 it)

lol I do that same shit tweaking out in a seperate design sesh.

didn't know about the parallel compression for that kind of stuff... good tip.

>>73562888
Noisey s01e06 if anyone's interested

>>73559395
is the interface your default device for windows?

does anyone have any genuinely good techniques to stop constantly thinking about whether people are going to like this while producing?

over the past couple of years it's turned something that was a really fun hobby into a source of anxiety. of course everyone wants their music to be liked and listen to but it's almost turned into an obsessive intrusive thought while producing to make things sound palatable or try to impress people

it's actually so bad I've thought about just quitting

>>73562798
You could put a glue compressor on the master. MJUC or TDR kotelnikov maybe Or maybe turn drums down a smidge

>>73563180
I guess ask yourself why you care about other people enjoying it. I actually have the exact opposite problem where I don't care if anyone enjoys it, but me.

>>73563180
Prove your competence and then stop worrying about it. It's not bad as an exercise to try to make something impressive, but it's not really a great artistic goal.

>>73563180
https://www.recordingrevolution.com/the-cycle-of-self-doubt-in-mixing/

Need a dark theme for browser to read or print it out

>>73563252
probably has something to do with being an outcast my whole life and ever having felt validation in any real sense by friend groups etc. and then when I did share my music with some people I know which then spread to other people I knew from high school, and people who used to treat me like a worthless piece of shit were actually coming up to me and exclaiming to me in a completely genuine way how much they liked my music

>>73563357
That's kind of funny. Getting positive feedback only ever makes me more uncomfortable.

>>73563357
>>73563180
Hm... I always try to remember how diverse taste in music is

I occasionally feel kind of worried that all the music I make is experimental and techno and nobody gives a shit about it, but then I remember how many weirdos there are who love autechre and this baby metal shit... somebody out there is bound to like it

>>73563234
the point is to judge the mix as its own entity and approach the master in post, something on ur master is just masking problems that could be addressed in the mix.

the drums will probably come down like you said a smidge but the channels are so quiet im just changing the levels each time i hear them, i must have done the gain staging 20 times

>>73562888
hs7's, the samples are all scooped and i like the brightness but i know there is some disparity in the cymbals, i will probably try de essing them but i will more likely make a ghost and sidechain them down, the snare is also a source of pain, since this upload i have a paralleled, heavily compressed version a boosted transient that may address what your talking about. i am very lazy with my drums, it gets so tedious but i do like the tone of the snare. i will likely export and totally resample the drums but its so much effort...

>>73562940
ye man serum is badboy, fm8 is dope but serum is way easier to learn what is happening within each stage of the modulation because the matrix in fm8 is so clutch, like 1 point in a matrix box can cause havoc - serum isnt like it unless you make it very reactive on account of the fm more of an effect that serum does.

the visual learning of serum is 10/10, the visual link between modulations from lfo's and envelopes is amazing for learning sound design

>>73563880
>i must have done the gain staging 20 times
Ear fatigue

Do you refernce your mixes ? Magic AB is the software

Just made this and thought I'd share, I want feedback. I'll work on the mix more later.

https://clyp.it/5pyj4mni
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hey guys i put together samples from an episode of tales from the darkside and came up with this. any feedback is appreciated!

https://clyp.it/0qlbawsf

>>73565026
>trying this hard to baitpost

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>>73562058
>Got Reason 9.5

>>73565149
What? New to the website.

>>73565185
can't fool me faggot kill yourself

>>73565232
...lol