/prod/ general

>>73500145
>synth
>patrician

lol, work with live instruments. Everything is easier that way and sounds amazing to begin with. Don't worry about being perfectly on click track. Trust me

>>73500321
its just an instrument, m8

I just picked up a korg nanokey2 as a spontaneous birthday present to myself. I have a couple of guitars and small instruments but I've never dabbled in anything like this.
Honestly the OP is a bit overwhelming. Saving all of the information to dig into later but was just wandering if there's anything I should directly focus on as a complete beginner?

Experiment. I'd like feedback on the vocoder or anything else you think is noteworthy

https://clyp.it/ccmgtvbq

hey /prod/
I currently use a tracker as my DAW. It's the best DAW I've found for me and I'm very happy with it. However I feel like I'm getting blocked into writing certain kinds of music because of the program design.
So what I'm looking for is a DAW/other programs/ideas with a completely unique workflow. Or some killer feature that leads to making different kinds of music.

>>73500321
>live instruments
>making music that's been done to death for decades if not hundreds of years

>>73500321
>>73500953
>not ignoring either issue and just buying and using an actual synth

you dense fucks, hardware is king

>>73500395
hey I bought one of those a couple years ago and it's on my desk right now
great investment I use it all the time (with piano roll because I'm a pleb) and also as a controller for mixxx
what a coincidence I'm staring at my nanokey right now thinking about the track I'm not working on :x

>>73500395

If you don't already have a DAW to make your songs with then pick one, the pros and cons of any of the most commonly-used ones are immaterial to you at this point so don't spend too long at this.

>Youtube - [Your DAW] + Starting Out
If all you're wanting to do is have fun to begin with and you've not been taken in by the "sell beats make moniez fast" merchants (Who make their money from persuading people to watch their Youtube videos and from selling their beat-making guides, not from selling beats) then watch the Starting Out guide and get to it - a few weeks down the road you'll have worked out whether you want to learn more and at that point you can revisit the links.

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how does this mix sound on your speakers/cans?

any issues with the kick vs bass?

https://clyp.it/btl3sbk2

Some proggy rap I've been working on. How does it sound overall?

https://clyp.it/qiknbydy

>>73501462
Sounds pretty good and clean overall. Also sounds like there's a lot of space for a lead as well.

fun lil jungle edit of Chief Keef im workin on hehe
https://clyp.it/v4yqx5fj

Any synth recs for weird granular shit?
I've gotten sick sounds out of Absynth 5 but that interface is fucking terrible and iris 2 looks much more like what I'm after. Any others I should consider?

>>73500145
Weak. Sylenth is too boring to be contrarian anyway

>>73502034
padshop pro or if you use ableton and have max granulator 2

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>>73500991
no it's not

>>73500953
That's a shit argument unless you're Stockhausen or something. The vast majority of electronic music isn't innovative or diverse.

>>73501747
Thanks

I've been trying to come up with a good lead part for days now. honestly about to give up :^(

>>73500991
>hardware is king

LOL fucking gear fetishists in denial

>>73502282
>The vast majority of electronic music

>the vast majority of music*******

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>>73500473
>https://clyp.it/ccmgtvbq
meme
>>73501462
>https://clyp.it/btl3sbk2
sonically too clean for me but musically interesting (dt880 250ohms/bookshelves with huge sub both check out)
>>73501684
>https://clyp.it/qiknbydy
Awful dog
young tape deck
https://clyp.it/cvkow1ke

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How do you play like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u6WO6la4Es

hope you guys enjoy

https://clyp.it/xtpdgscr#

-willtheconqueror

>>73503689
practice alot

>>73503695
this is fucking good bro seriously

>>73503689
practice and check out jazz theory, it's not really insane playing desu.

Think i've got it pretty much fleshed out now.

https://clyp.it/1jqbuxe1

>>73503984
this is so good, sounds like radiohead in some moments

>>73503695
really really good - can we connect?

>>73504130
Cheers, tried to put lots of emotion and melody into it

>>73504205
yeah man - [email protected]

ABSYNTH 5 USERS

Is it not possible to use files besides wav and aiff? I've been building a sample library for years that has a lot of MP3 (shut up) and flac. I'm going to be so :(

>>73504569
just convert them if you cant import

>>73504634
I will ofc

Just asking because it's all organized in several folders. Just annoying more than anything

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How do you guys organize your samples? I got shit from bunch of different sources and my folder is a mess

>>73503762
>>73503913
practice what? pentatonics? 7th chords?

>>73505445
Just practise playing the piano in general, the guy in the vid has obviously been playing for while and knows his theory well.

Hey guys, just "mastered" my first track (by following a tutorial on youtube step by step). I'd really appreciate some feedback on the master of this track that I threw together today.
Mastering in Live btw

https://clyp.it/nki1041k

>>73501462
This is really fucking good vro

So I'm writing a score for an indie surrealist horror game and my jumping off point for this track was "Hit the Road Jack meets Fly Me to the Moon, but weird". Was I wrong to interpret "weird" as "use Coltrane changes and strange samples"? Any thoughts?

https://clyp.it/rizo3hh1

>>73505798
I would assume "weird" meant slightly creepy

>>73505321
>drums
>noise etc
>porn
>stems
>snuff videos
>"mine"

>>73505834
Well I did go for that towards the end, to be fair

>>73505321
>tonal
>>subdivide by key
>atonal
>>subdivide by feel

>>73505321
by company :^)

>>73505881
Disgusting
(Am I missing out not buying sample packs)

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>>73505908
just pirate them

>>73505929
Yeah but are they worth it?
Only payed pack I have is the factory battery shit. They're alright

>>73506000
i wouldnt pay for them unless i was forced to

>>73506037
Came with komplete on sale for 150ish I think. It was worth not dealing with cracks and all that for a shit load of content

>>73502254
What is this and why is there a toilet in the corner?

>>73506079
i only pay for daws and vst i am talking about wav format sample pack

komplete is worth buying

is ozone good or memeware?

>>73506240
You can do whatever with whatever dude, don't even worry about it, just get good with what you've got. Study up.

Just built a simple piezo contact mic (waterproof) and am looking for some interesting ways to distort its output, anybody here into noise prod?

>>73506332
Stop this fucking meme you're setting people up for failure

>>73506240
It's very good, pro tier, all you need to master unless you just have different taste

Iirc there's some difference with newer versions that pissed people off, probably not a big deal though

>>73506429
No idea what the fuck you're talking about and I had to look up contact mics

I'm now very interested. Where can I read more about this /noise/ prod?

Can I record screaming and shit under water? Bashing shit with the mic attached?

Will it sound cool inside my acoustic? <.<

>>73506524
Well I just started a noise general too, asked the same question, sometimes people post their gear setups

But yeah, you can scream underwater, feed that through all manner of pedals/misc. gear. You'd need a tougher one than the one I made to seriously bash it, but they're out there. I'm probably gonna affix it to my chest and experiment with body percussion.

And guitar stuff isn't really my area, but I know you can use it as a pickup.

>>73506549
(I meant the body percussion thing by bashing (good idea))

Sounds v useful I will look into it more thanks :3

>>73506668
Thanks, anon, and enjoy! They're pretty easy to make.

>>73506132
Max/MSP, dunno about the toilet but am intrigued

>>73506524
usually you just put pennies in an altoids box, tape the contact mic to that, plug it into a distortion pedal and flail around like a retard

now you're a noise artist

https://clyp.it/2ke4upei

do you think it sounds like trance?
also, should i make the intro louder?
and how do you like the sound/vibe of the sax/oboe sounding thing entering at 1:00?

how is it mix wise?

>>73502254
That's a very cool Max patch, did you come up with it?

>>73500953
>implying synths aren't live instruments

Have fun making shot music with that scuffed ass Logic Pro digital library faggot

>>73507562
heya friend, do you have a good max book/tutorial?

Everything i have been able to find is just "how to do X in max" i want a sensible text, not too retarded doe, like sth with a nice-pacing for people who already know programming to get into max

>>73507581
desu unless the synth is really good it sounds better to use any other instrument and some fx pedals

there's too many crap synths

>>73505565
I'm pretty impressed my dude, especially for not having done this before and using Live. Personally, I think the snare was like 3 dB too loud and the bass was like 3 dB too quiet, but those would really be in the mix more so than the master. Maybe reducing the high mids (like maybe 1.5 kHz to like 4 kHz) just a touch and adding more low end (really narrow boost around 100 Hz) and boosting the air (above like 6 kHz) a touch might help it sound more even and broad across the entire spectrum. I like your panning though, keep it up! The best thing you can do is practice

>>73506240
Dude, iZotope is the shit, if you're a student you get a discount on it at Sweetwater. Get Advanced if you can!

>>73507609
Sorry dude, but I don't, I learned everything I know about Max in school and I haven't got my own version because I wouldn't have a lot of application for it

>>73507679
>in school
what did you study?

>>73507442
i like this it sounds like dark psy / forest psy

I've recorded some demos with a guitar straight to FL Studio using the Rocksmith USB cable.
It kinda works but there is some annoying delay, would an audio interface fix it and make the quality of the recordings better?

>>73507739
Equal parts audio engineering, composition, and guitar. If you want to do music in school, find a program at a school that's as open ended and self-selecting as possible. Otherwise you get pigeonholed into doing boring jazz shit, stuffy classical shit, or the worst option: writing about those things

>>73507893
an interface would be better look for focusrite scarlett 2i2 or steinberg ur22mkII

>>73507893
Chances are even a cheap interface will do a much better job at converting your input to digital, and using an actual preamp can make a huge difference in the difference between your music and any hum or noise

>>73507977
>>73508017
thank you, I alreaddy read up on interfaces a bit and had the steinberg ur22mk2 bookmarked
Now I'll definitely give it a shot

>>73500953
>Music began in 1910...

Any feedback on this mix would be nice. Any final touched before mastering in regards to the instruments.

Keep in mind, the vocals are getting completely re done at this point in time. We aren't sold on them yet.

https://clyp.it/on5snlec

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>>73507977
Is there any reason against a Behringer UMC204HD for starting out?

hey guys, I posted the older version in the older thread, but I just need to know if you see this as a finnished project, would you add anything? mixing/mastering?

tips, thoughts, critics please

https://clyp.it/fojrasgi

>>73508215
not much besides the fact that it's behringer

what's the best dj mixer you can get with under 500 euros?

>>73508215
i never used behrinher products but alot of people online say tehy make shitty quality gear

>>73508339
it's hit and miss
some stuff like the deepmind12 is actually usable, some stuff is absolute garbage
I'd stay away from it

>>73508112
Dude bro, I really like your track! I love the whole dreamy feel it has. How did you record your drums? Is your drummer left handed, or did you pan for audience perspective? Did you switch to a new snare or retune it when the crosstick section started? At the beginning it sounded like the top head was too loose or the snares were too present or something, did you mic it from the bottom? If so, maybe turn down the bottom mic? I'd also like to hear more kick and overheads, just because there's so much going on with the cymbals and toms. Also, with the snare reverb hard panned it kinda pulls the snare to the right and kinda muffles it. Maybe pan the reverb a little closer to center and lower it by a touch? The guitar and bad tones are great! It maybe automating some panning in the lead guitar would be cool, I think it would help with the sense of space and dreaminess of the track. Great job dude! Sounds awesome

>>73508215
Behringer stuff isn't built well, and they cut a lot of corners when designing because their goal is such a low price point

>>73500145
What's that last one?

>>73508419
dubturbo

>>73501214
HOL UP

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>>73507977
>>73508215
Tascam US 2x2 might be viable, too? But really, I have no idea and am eager for some input.

>>73508360
Thanks mate,

Tbh we are paying an engineer over in USA to mix. We have had loads of trouble trying to get the snare sounding really good. The engineer swears black and blue he had tried it all.

We recorded in a recording engineers studio (his shed turned into a pretty small room and control room with window thing. Drums in one room with bass DI. Gutiars in control room with amp.


I spent a shit load of time on my live guitar sound so it hasn't had any work really done to it from my understanding.

The bass was done in to a pre-amp, we just gave him examples of what we'd like and he's nailed it I reckon.

Glad you like it, we have been sending stuff back and foward for months and I feel its very close to master. The vocals we sent him are just not there. Gonna try some things.

>>73508398
I've never had any problems with their newer USB mixers.

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>>73508438
>2017
>not exclusively using beat kangz products

>>73508482
Best of luck!

How do you actually force myself to sit down and do work? I get very anxious after an hour or so because I'm not coming up with anything and the start procrastinating. What's your workflow like?

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Trappin' out the hipster coffee shop

https://clyp.it/neqqmvfc

>>73508884
Drugs.

>>73508965
kick drum is terrible, sounds like someone slapping a leather sofa

>>73508992
What do you recommend?

>>73509097
I just smoke changa
dont even smoke weed anymore

>>73509097
speed
M
Trip
Schrooms

choose

>>73508884
How do I force yourrself to sit down and work?

I'll be honest with you, I don't. Surprised you haven't noticed tbqh.

>>73500321
Meh. You don't wanna record a bass or live because chances are 99.9% your room doesn't have any acoustic treatment so your frequencies are gonna go bananas. Just DI that bitch.

>>73508215
I would recommend picking up a mackie mixer instead. You're gonna want it for when you need 8 inputs for the drummer. Not sure if the preamps on that lil box have better tone or not though. Just tube vs transistor amplification. Both are good.

>>73508884
Are you a beginner? Don't worry about writing something good, just do SOMETHING. It's really hard to force yourself to come up with a good melody/chords. Sit down and make a shitty 3 note melody sound good, you don't have to save what you come up with. The goal is that after writing a bad melody and making it sound good 100 times, you can make a great song when you finally do come up with a good idea.

>>73500576
I guess people are using the standard toolset.

I m looking around for midi controlers. I ve been interested in the akai apc for controling ableton's funtion. What are more cheaper alternatives to this tipe of controler?

>>73509324
You can't download uniquesong.exe and have it given to you. Using ableton or FL won't make you sound like every else either. A daw is a tool for you to make a song with, it doesn't influence the kind of song you make.

>>73509336
that's as cheap as they get with somewhat reasonable quality

>>73508884
Start off with little bits and pieces. Maybe a few chords you like or a little series of notes, just an accorn of an idea. Then take that and expand it out. There's really no write and wrong and don't take it too seriously because after all it's only art. You'll eventually get to the point where you write out of inspiration, but at the start you'll begin by sitting there and strummimg different chords to see what sucks and what doesn't for hours. That usually turns out pretty bland "radio tier" songs but for now sense you have no base that's where I would start. Eventually the melodies will just come to you from nowhere. Those are the keepers.

>>73509359
If that was even remotely true there would be no such thing as different DAWs.

>>73509446
Okay, don't believe me. Keep searching for that magical unicorn DAW that will make all your songs unique and innovative. Let me know when you find it.

>>73509446
>there's different makers of pens so authors can write different kinds of books
yeah, pretty sure that's the reason for that

>>73509369
In the same price range, what brands/models are as good as this?

>>73509481
go and try out some stuff
it's a highly subjective thing if you like the layout and feel of a controller or not
big music stores usually have a lot of that stuff

>>73503984
this is v nice compositionally, cant knock anything there
however try adjusting the eq in the voice to get more low end and maybe compress it too, (reverb/delay?) the rest could be improved simply by improving ur vocal delivery but that cant happen overnight obviously so dont worry about it too much lol
good stuff

https://clyp.it/5fk2vmmr

need some feedback on this. The whole song sounds like its building up but I dont know what to. I dont know what to add to get that climax, any help appreciated. Also other criticism too pls.

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I got a bass, I know how to play but don't know shit about guitar tone, only mixing and synths.

It sounds really good clean thru the soundcard's preamp but when I use the bass amp in guitar rig 5 its not as good

So what I'm asking is when do you use a bass amp and what kind of sounds can you get out of it

>>73510887

>>73511028
>but when I use the bass amp in guitar rig 5 its not as good

so........ don't?

desu i only ever use gr for bass if i'm looking for more of an overdriven tone- even then i don't use the bass pro cab, just the head

maybe some of the gr distortion in parallel too

other than that i just make heavy eq cuts in the low mids, slight boost around 2-3k if it's appropriate. compression and transient shaper when needed

using the vocal filter and phaser can be cool too. i haven't experimented too much with bass and gr honestly, i just think the cabs sound like shit, even for guitar usually

Redpill me on headphones.

how do you lay multiple rhythm guitar tracks of different tones in a mix

>>73512180
getting good clarity across all frequency bands is key. goal is to train your ears on the pit falls of the headphones and how they compare to the sound of other speakers (without actually listening to the other speakers)

Consumer headphone speakers are "colored" to give the listener a wow factor (ie. Super Bass Boost MAX). Pro headphones are also colored, but in an effort to keep everything flat sounding. You can get by with consumer teir headphones, but you'll be doing a bunch of guess work because they are typically so "colored" its hard to tell what is "normal/flat." Pro headphones will require less guess work.

>>73512180
they're a meme to convince people it's okay to not use monitors. they're a useful addition for second reference though

>>73512375
>make sure they're in time
>make sure they're appropriate tones
>make sure they're in time

do they not sound right or what? i'm not sure what kind of answer you're looking for that doesn't apply to mixing single guitars

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Any 4 track users out there? Looking for some recording tips. I tend to record pretty hot to get a good signal to noise ratio. Is dbx noise reduction good or nah?

>>73513137
but it's the current year lol

>>73513360
I know my lo-fi boys are out there somewhere

>>73513137
i use the exact same one. i dont use the noise reduction as it sometimes takes away wanted sounds. i record hot. personally i like the added noise and distortion of using it so dont work too hard to get great quality.

>>73513137
Bro I don't know jack shit about music productions and I've never had the opportunity to touch a 4-track IRL, but from what my tapebros say dbx noise reduction is supposed to be da shit. Just as with any other NR system though it is dependent on having your levels calibrated pretty accurately, with dbx this is more important than with Dolby B

https://clyp.it/hjhzfs13

What can I do to make the bass and kick "pump" more during the chorus?

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https://clyp.it/kz2syedc

feedback pls it's video gamey

>>73513794
good stuff.
use sidechain compression on the chords/rhythm-part, and have the kick trigger it. Drop the threshold way down. adjust the attack/delay on the compressor until it pumps the way you want it.

So does the computer generate the music for you or do you import prerecorded sound?

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>>73500145
>Using vsts

Any [Spoiler] Free [/Spoiler] synth presets that sound like this?

No idea how to make one in FL studio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgUxD-3lCzU

hey guys, what's the appropriate way to tune drums?

I know the kick should be on the root note of the key, but what about the snare? hi-hats? other perc?

>>73514082
i repitch old soul songs and layer hip hop beats over them using some samples i torrented

other times i loop a break with serum presets and zelda samples

i remix some top 40 stuff but that's just to attract people to my soundcloud

>>73514932
>i repitch old soul songs and layer hip hop beats over them using some samples i torrented

so what? who doesnt

>>73512891
theyre in time and i fixed the little issues on the daw
i recorded them with different microphone placements and amp settings but cant think of how to lay them in the song
i think ill just have all going at the same time to fill up the sound, and take the most midrangey one off during the guitar solo
>i'm not sure what kind of answer you're looking for
neither did i, sorry for making such post

>>73514955
>who doesnt

I think that's the joke

>>73515296
maybe try that neutron plugin

i think it can help fix frequency conflicts like that

>>73515296
>take the most midrangey one off during the guitar solo

sounds like a good idea

no need to be (sarcastically(?)) sorry, you just have to be more specific if you want a helpful response

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>>73500145
>No Diva

>>73509543
Are you talking about the singing in the latter half of the song or the cuts throughout, regarding the eq? Yeah you're right, i could probs improve my vocals.

>>73501684
Lmao @ ur life. Seriously though, i hope it's just a phase and you'll grow some sort of self awareness, you need to start listening to some more challenging music

>muh challenging patrician music
>uses Sylenth1 and Live

>>73514660
U-He Diva or Sonic Projects OP-X are right up your alley

>>73499942

op when you will just fuck off out here and stop with this shitty pics? rlly fuck you

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have anyone here used spire

>>73516515
They're just tools. A good artist can make good music from garbage cans. Most "artists" are fucking hacks tho

>>73505565
Snare a tad bit too loud and I would let the track breathe a little bit here and there. The bass is very constant.

But good job, dude!

>>73516630
oh you mean Bach's Garbage Cantata? Yeah good artists often don't give a shit about the tools they use.

>>73516515
what do you propose we use then?

>>73503984
I love this. Did you play the whole thing or are you sampling? It's great either way, just curious.

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Is it weird that I've developed a coping mechanism where I imagine Brian Eno looking over my shoulder as I'm on ableton giving me pep talks and telling me stuff like "there's flashes of genius here anon" when I start thinking I'm absolute shit

>>73507442
Is the intro sampled from something? It sounds so familiar.

It sounds like something Haxan Cloak made.

>>73508243
Needs to hit harder and that vocal is panned too much to the right.

>>73516630
>A good artist can make good music from garbage cans.

That's kind of a bad argument. You can make good use of anything provided it's capable of doing what you want to do. But that doesn't mean it's okay to be stuck using shitty tools.

>>73517648
Pierre Schaeffer always sees what I'm doing and tells me it's garbage.

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>>73517648

This is just an idea I sketched out.
It's in E minor and it's supposed to give the feeling of missing someone.

Before I turn it into something, is it good?

https://clyp.it/0eqf1akv

I'm looking for a mixer for noise. Don't need anything too fancy, up to $150 is ideal, is Mackie a decent brand? I know to avoid Behringer.

>>73518347
Would really love feedback.

>>73518793
Why avoid Behringer if it's for noise?

>>73519095
because if it breaks down you can't make any noise with it

>>73519095
Don't they degrade faster than average?

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https://clyp.it/0qr4o022

who /onmylevel/ here

>>73519119
I really don't think they're that bad.

>>73519236
They might not be, but considering the wealth of other options in the same price range, I guess I just don't see any point in going with something with any history of subpar quality, even if it isn't that bad

>>73519153
You should not be here

>>73519277
If it's for noise, who really gives a shit?

>>73519427
see >>73519114 and >>73519119

https://clyp.it/fgjpvput


hi it me
bitsnake

>>73518793
>buying equipment to make noise
>not making the equipment yourself

>>73519685
I'm making my own mics, don't know enough about mixers yet though

>>73519153
Unique

You could make great trance/house etc. sampling the beginning of this 0:10-0:40
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mKK32ZB12bA

Some random testing myself: https://static.ylilauta.org/files/mp/orig/hmkak7ky/nb.mp3

>>73519427
>>73519236
>not that bad

why even discuss gear when you've resigned to aiming for just okay..? there's shit out there that does noise with more versatility lol

>>73519153
I wouldn't call this good but you caught my attention

anything else?

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https://clyp.it/egt1pwgl

>>73508965
Very nice but the kick does sound bad..

>>73513863
well.... it has personality

>>73519671
>https://clyp.it/fgjpvput
hey that's pretty neat

>>73519153
>https://clyp.it/0qr4o022
i like it anon

>>73518347
>https://clyp.it/0eqf1akv
>>73518933
does not sound like missing someone at all. Sounds like a chase sequence in a video game.

>>73520038
>why even discuss gear when you've resigned to aiming for just okay..?
What, you need high end shit to make fucking noise?

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i'm working on this new track but I feel like i'm missing some things, maybe some voice samples chopped or something. general critique would also be nice if you have some https://clyp.it/4yqjqgeb

>>73520970
so there's only behringer tier and high end?

>>73505798
Creepy sure, like a Tim Burton movie. Wouldn't really fit in my mental layout for a horror game soundtrack but what do i know, Wierd how it starts off sort of wry and cynical and then gets kinda spacey and tranquil but maybe that would work

>>73507442
>https://clyp.it/2ke4upei
yeah the intro could be a bit louder

>>73520889
Shit

https://clyp.it/user/rkttmzie

>>73510923
>https://clyp.it/5fk2vmmr
I would just call it done if I were you, really.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE A SYNTH WITH THE SOUND OF THE CURRENT GOOGLE THINGY

>>73521879
those floating offbeats kind of throw you off.

>>73520970
didn't say that. the point is if you don't care about it why ask

willingtospend$=more options

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https://clyp.it/aq25g1pf

Is this good?

can someone please help me find the bpm of this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U5VdSQwkl4

or just tell me ways to find out bpm because i think its 120 but it just sounds weird with the metronome

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how do i mix these rhythm guitars so they sound proper and big?

also they sound kinda harsh and trebly, any idea on how to fix that? just an eq cut around 4k~6k will do it well, or it will take the clarity away? the previous attemps i had with boosting lows and trying to make something "fatter" had muddied the mix, thats why i'm askin here

also there's currently 6 rhythm guitar tracks in there, 3 to each side. should i keep all? sometimes i think they add texture and sometimes i think the little difference in transients takes the punch away.

https://clyp.it/inl0acqy

>>73523994
i think thats 120, that way each chords lasts one bar

>>73524055
thanks

>>73523994
I tapped out like 124.0-124.50bpm

https://clyp.it/d5zhqi0b

is this on beat? my ears are terrible for this stuff

What's up /prod/.

I've been producing music for 5 years but just made a secret alias unaffiliated with my normal music presence to sell beats and make some money. I've only been up for 2 days and my shit is good - people on twitter are already digging it - but I've had no sales on traktrain yet despite a lot of shilling, and at cheap prices for beat leases.

Any tips on effective shilling? Any beat makers our there who have had success with independently selling beats, traktrain or otherwise? Any tips would be much appreciated.

>>73523477
What do you think, anon?

>>73524363
people will pirate it if it is good and you probably wont make money how you think

>>73524407
Not if he has voice tags. If he gets popular enough to the point that people are actually uploading and pirating his beats, then you just take them off of the internet and communicate with artists directly to sell beats

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>try to pencil in rhythm
>forget the rest of my idea

errytime

>>73524564
true didnt think of the endgame

>>73524032
didn't even listen and i can tell you straight away big guitars are dependent on big bass playing the root note, not a bunch of double tracked guitars

you're good to cut that much, i usually do a lowpass and notch out any hiss

>>73524032
>>73525056
wait god damnit this song AGAIN?

Is there a good way of digitally recreating the 303 vinyl sim compression effect?

>>73524665
srsly, any tips tho?

>>73525773
work faster in your daw ???????????
play it on an instrument or hum/tap it into your phone......

should go without saying but don't fuck with your sounds before you get out the idea

make a preset drum kit or whatever for cranking things out

i'd imagine every daw does this but in ableton you can set a "template" to open up every time so you don't have to drag shit in that you do at the beginning of every project anyway, saves a couple minutes

https://clyp.it/sjkduudp

>>73525773
get a smartphone or handheld wav recorder and hum shit when it comes to you

>>73526318
So do you want a critique or suggestion of some kind or what

>>73521001
You need velocity on those drums

That pad isn't interesting and is too repetitive

Intro dragged way too long

That melodic variation wasn't interesting, sounds kind of lazy

Needs way more desu man, sounds like you need to learn your way around programming everything

>>73518347
>missing someone

Uhhhh maybe in a highly romanticized "I have to get her back" way....

Sounds way too robotic man. Video game appropriate

>>73526324
No I mean transcribing rhythms

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https://clyp.it/ujaxcift
obvs unfinished with shit placeholder lyrics but what filters plugins etc do you think I should put on this

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>>73527108
also anyone have experience with ardour and zynaddsubfx together so I manually pan the instruments separately instead of jacking all into 1 track

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Hey /mu/,

I'm trying to prevent and/or remove mouth clicks from my voice audio. Any suggestions?

It's for talking that I'm doing. I've tried drinking, not drinking, eating an apple beforehand, moving farther from the mic, using audacity's click removal and noise reduction. I can't find a decent solution and I want to kill myself. Using an AT2020 with pop filter.

Might be getting a juno60. Is it worth it upgrading it so it has midi or should I just do something else for clocking? Also, what are your thoughts on this synth?

>>73526318
This is pretty good

>>73527350
get a midi retrofit... for your brain so u can play haha

>>73527700
that's a bold, risky move, switching tabs right before lift off

>>73527145
Use a good de-esser plug.
Use a Compressor and fuck around the attack

>>73527700
I think we ejaculated at the same time anon..

>>73527738
People are in large part a product of their environment

>>73527145
You'll have to manually go through and remove each click, but this will do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB_igerSuc

>>73527719
I don't understand. Can you dumb it down?

Am I using a compressor plugin in audacity? Is it something I buy? What's an attack?

>>73527829
There's a bunch of useful videos in the OP. You should take a look at them when you're free. Learn some stuff.

>>73527959
>you should watch 10+ youtube videos and maybe 1 of them will answer your question while the other 9 do not

You should kill yourself

>>73527996
It's not about answering a specific question, you should learn a little bit about how sound works before you try working with it cause at the moment you don't know shit.

>>73528022
>Being this upset because I told you to kill yourself

Ok buddy. I'm sorry. I didn't know you're so sensitive. I'll try to refrain from using harsh language in the future.

>do not post links to SoundCloud or YouTube
I'm sorry but that's fucking retarded

>>73527829
upload a few seconds of your audio that has clicks. I'll see if I can fix it then I'll tell you what I did

>>73528062
t.soundcloud kid

>>73528046
>>73527996
His point was not just for you to find a solution to this one specific problem. It's to gain a fundamental basic knowledge, so that in the future you can solve problems yourself rather than having to ask for help all the time. There's no use in spoonfeeding you some technique just so you can go and not even do it correctly anyway because you don't understand the basics

>>73528071
I like when people can see my other tracks for comparison

>>73528114
What basic fundamental knowledge don't I have?

I'll wait.

>>73528185
>what's an attack

>>73500145
I wish faggots from NI would add resizable gui to fm8 i can't see shit on my 2560x1440 monitor.

>>73526835
yeah that's why i put it here

Any must have samples for making Detroit/Old school house?

Also any suggested specific videos for House/ Garage synths in FL Studios 12?

>>73528065
>>73527145
come on breh it'll take me like 2 minutes, hurry up I'm going to bed soon

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I just booted up FL Studio and this grey square shit happened after I opened a track.
Does anyone know what the fuck it means or how to fix it? I think it might have something to do with the license.

Anybody know any good synths for Gesaffelstein type stuff?

>>73528312
https://clyp.it/hiu5tiuq

>>73528392
Please point to a specific timestamp where you hear a click that you want to remove

>>73528404
>>73528392
ya took too long so I just found a click myself

https://clyp.it/5orygerl

Before and after, you can hear the click on "away" is there, then it's gone. Not gonna tell you how I did it though because you were rude to that guy before. Maybe if you apologize I'll let you know

>>73528467
Nah, I already know how to remove specific clicks individually. I'm wondering if there's a more convenient method. Preferably to stop them from happening at the source, or a blanket plug-in. All my googling tells me not really. Probably just need to practice speaking.

Also, fuck the other guy.
>muh feelies

>>73528356

its so easy to just make your own

>>73528501
Here's the same thing using a plugin that does it automatically
https://clyp.it/1tlsw5xz

an anagram for the plugin I'm using is "A Acquired Zen Limy"

>>73528651
Sounds good, but can it be allied to the entire audio track or only via selecting the individual tracks?

It's not that much of a bother to do it individually. It's moreso the plugins I've tried have a drawback. I.e. muffled/noise reduction, warped sounding, etc.

>>73528699
You just put it right on the track and it does it automatically, once you set it correctly

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>>73528710
Nice. Even if it was more of a hassle, it still sounds nice.

What do you want for the name of it?

Also is there any instructions that might be necessary? I'm not gonna lie and say I know much about audio production. This is for amateur stuff obv, but the mouth clicking is by far the biggest problem when I record. So I'm all for learning about it and factors relating to it.

>>73528773
;^)

I have zero experience making music, but i am doing a short film right now and i want a kinda rhythmic droning for the background soundscape. How would i go about doing that? What programs? Any general tips to a complete pleb?

Is this sounding good?

https://clyp.it/bg3utxry

anyone have a recommendation for a good all around portable microphone

i used a zoom mic before and it seemed decent but not sure what else is considered good

thanks

>>73503695
try turning drums down 1 db ish

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>>73517648
As soon as you externalize an idea you see facets of it that weren’t clear when it was just floating around in your head.
I started coming to the studio with less worked-out pieces, and eventually with nothing at all. I would just start working with that thing, “the studio,” as the instrument.

There is nothing outside of this process. This process called recording is the creative process. We don’t have the canvas standing in front of any landscape, you are going to make the landscape here and now.
Repetition doesn’t really exist.

As far as your mind is concerned, nothing happens the same twice, even if in every technical sense, the thing is identical. Your perception is constantly shifting. It doesn’t stay in one place.
If you had a sign above every studio door saying ‘This Studio is a Musical Instrument’ it would make such a different approach to recording.
Beware the panic effect that accompanies the high cost

One becomes increasingly oriented toward results, and progressively less inclined to engage in experimental activities that might not lead anywhere.

As a result of this, one focuses one’s attention on the safe bet, on the tried and tested techniques.

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https://streamable.com/eyfr0

I wrote down a list of trailer cliches and I'm currently writing something that uses all of them, I'm getting worried because it's actually turning out okay.

>>73500145
The pleb is you because there's no alchemy

>>73502034
Alchemy

>>73524363
Try and license them to ad agencies, don't forget other countries

>>73529237
>>73517648
People in the arts often want to aim for the biggest, most obvious target, and hit it smack in the bull’s eye.

Of course with everybody else aiming there as well that makes it very hard and expensive to hit.

I prefer to shoot the arrow, then paint the target around it. You make the niches in which you finally reside.
The more time you spend on an old idea, the more energy you invest in it, the more solid it becomes, and the more it will exclude new ideas.
I wanted to use the studio like a microscope for sound, which is what good engineers do.
Most studio units — traditionally regarded as simple devices for altering or modifying a set sound — can be employed as instruments in their own right.
I can’t duplicate my own successes, because part of the creation of that effect is making something happen that you didn’t expect
Somebody in an interview said recently, “What do the words mean?” And I said, “What do the chords mean?”
A studio is an absolute labyrinth of possibilities — this is why records take so long to make because there are millions of permutations of things you can do.

The most useful thing you can do is to get rid of some of those options before you start.
Often in life you are confronted by many possibilities. The best thing you can do is just go for one with a quick decision, then make that choice work for you. It takes you to interesting places with surprising results.
When people censor themselves they’re just as likely to get rid of the good bits as the bad bits.

>>73500145
>He doesn't use FM8 to create complex wavetables to use inside Serum, harnessing the power of both at the same time.
>He doesn't have multiple instances of both plugins' FX versions in complex routing configurations.
>He doesn't use Sylenth1 ironically to malke fun of progressive house producers.

I seriously hope you guys do this because the more noobs who don't take it to the next level, the easier it is for me to get ahead.

>>73501969
>https://clyp.it/v4yqx5fj
give me more dude no home

>>73525773
When I'm "in the zone" and have an idea that just flows out of my brain on its own, I record myself humming/whistling it and explaining how it sounds in my head.
I usually go on for a while until I've milked it completely and no creative idea or addition comes out.
This is because the moment you come up with something is the only moment where your mind is completely wrapped around the "vision" of how it sounds like, and when you stop and resume creating on it at a later time, you don't get the same level of coherence between the creative flow you had the first time and this one, so it's important to squeeze the idea right away and possibly even compose the whole song by humming in a recorder, and regard it as the only time you'll ever be able to compose on it (even if it might not be true).

>>73526911
thanks man, imma fix it

>>73528356
His sound design isn't particularly unique to any specific gear, but using analog synths and processors would definitely help in getting closer to his sound.

>>73513137
lmao even your image is lo-fi

hoping someone can help me out,
I use studio one 2 artist and i am desperate to use 3rd party VST's, which is not possible in this version.
if anyone has a crack/serial(or anything really) that i could use so that i could upgrade to use VST's thatd be great...

If thats not the case, can you anons reccomend any DAWs i could check out? I mostly record instruments and microphones, so stuff like ableton doesnt catch my eye.. Thanks in advance

>>73530457
give reaper a shot

>>73530457
i really like reaper, more than cubase

>>73525090
lol
postin this time because i re-recorded the guitars miking my real amp... was told on a previous /prod/ that the rhythm guitars sounded boring and lifeless, and they were DI'd and amplitube'd

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WHAT HEADPHONES DO I BUY FOR $200 THAT WONT LEAK SOUND AND SOUND LOUD?

THANKS

>>73530506
dt770

>>73530457
Pro Tools, although I don't know how easy it is to pirate.

Ableton can work with recordings really well, and is the best for sample manipulation/editing, so I suggest you give it a shot because it's very good.

>>73530517
incredibly shitty to pirate since the aax plugin format is a bitch and wrapping from vst is like going through hell
don't even bother

how to record such a huge, nice and full and everything, acoustic guitar sound like these? can be done at my room? with some cheap jumbo acoustic like the yamaha cpx500?

https://youtu.be/5zP4ZWm1exI
https://youtu.be/WA28ka-WSCw

https://youtu.be/MXHTwNzg29I
https://youtu.be/RUwZQXBPDiw

>>73523025
You mean the Korg M1?

>>73530553
is that it?

>>73530591
it's a classic ROMpler full of that type cheesy sounds and effects

>>73527145
why is it set up like that lol you do know it's a side address microphone right?

>>73527145
if by "mouth clicks", you mean you click your tongue, you just need to un-learn it. record yourself speaking a lot, clip together every single time you do it, and listen back to it. start catching yourself doing it in real-time, and it's going to drive you insane enough that you'll learn to avoid doing it.

>>73513137
tape head here, biggest tip for recording on a 4 track is making the most out of my the little. run a external mixer in between your instrument and the input on the 4 track to have more adjustment of EQ and levels. record hotter but beware NR DBX acts almost like a compressor and can fuck up drum tracks.

>>73513397
im here and also use a DAW but prefer my analog hardware
DAWlets will never understand how to make a gooc song with limited capabilities and just raw talent so dont let them bring you down

>>73499942
Get this if you don't feel like compressing and Ableton's one is bad

http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=2060

>>73532204
>limitations inspire creativity :p
>gear fetishism
>can't handle more possibility

So fucking delusional

>>73532843
>still so newb they think the answer is more possibilities with a single click input device

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>>73532843
>$600+ on full DAW
>another $300 on VSTs
>150$ interface
>expensive condenser mic
>headphones
>calls other gear fetishists
>spends money on midi controllers to emulate synth patches
you poorfags get so mad when anyone has any gear thats not on your macbook air display. spending so much time trying to process sounds that real hardware does in half the time and In better quality.
Stay poor
Stay shit

>>73532980
Some people want to do things more musically ambitious than one bass line and one drum pattern with some knob twiddles.

>>73533946
>never touched hardware
>cant make ambitious music without over processing and a dozen plug ins.
kys

>>73534016
Great assumption, I actually own a lot of hardware, including classic/vintage stuff. It's okay but kinda boring. Acting like someone must want to use an 808 or whatever like it's the pinnacle of electronic music is fucking retarded.

Daily reminder that nobody cares what you used to make a song (you'll at most get an "uh, neat" reaction from other producers), and that the only thing that matters is the end result and your enjoyment of the process.

>>73534383
Pretty much, unless you're like a Charles Cohen/Dan Lopatin with a mastery over a specific instrument.

>>73534383
>the only thing that matters is the end result and your enjoyment of the process.
It's the quality of the end result that matters. No one cares how much fun you had either.

>>73533594
You are incapable of making an actual argument.

>>73534449
True, but if you don't enjoy making music you're never going to make anything worthwhile.

>>73534436
There are always exceptions. It's unlikely that anyone here is one of them.

>>73534449
>It's the quality of the end result that matters. No one cares how much fun you had either.
The quality matters to the listener.
The enjoyment matters to you.
That's what I meant.

Unless you're doing music for work/money, in which case enjoyment is nice, but not as important.

>>73500145
>not using vintage digital synths people scoffed at

>>73534745
>Not making your own instruments like This guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHoMLDht-HY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXM4zTNCzSw

>>73534209
>I actually own a lot of hardware
kek you literally don't

but stay butthurt tho

>>73526965
Any advice on how to change that?

>>73506429
if your interested in this sort of stuff from a non-noise more ambient perspective, check out deepchord presents echospace "silent world." A large chunk of the album was created that way. As for your question, pedals and more pedals are always the answer for noise. I'm a huge fan of reverb, delay, distortion/fuzz.

>>73506429
**Experimental Idea**
Attach it to a soda can filled an eight of the way with vinegar. Cause a chemical reaction with baking soda and scratch the side with a knife. Post results.

Can someone help me with figuring out a drum loop?

I'm trying to recreate the drums to this song by Houses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkUu_Nd-jw4

I can get everything besides the snare ish thing that comes in at bout 0:13. Its got a clap on it I think, but I don't know what else is hidden in there.

Please and Thanks

>>73534802
How the fuck would you know? You can't make an actual valid point so you resort to bullshit.

>>73534745
That's really the most interesting thing you can do now. Pick up something for under $200 and go nuts with it. Analog has already been played out since forever.

>>73527350
>Might be getting a juno60. Is it worth it upgrading it so it has midi or should I just do something else for clocking? Also, what are your thoughts on this synth?
pro tip here guys
other than the eg's being snappier on the juno60, and a SLIGHT difference in the resonance, along with noisier chorus, 106 and 60 are really really close
which nobody is even sure why the resonance is different because the discrete circuit design on the filter was exactly the same minus being set up as a single ic on the 106?
tldr, if you get the choice between a 106 and 60, and you arent sure the 106 is probably always going to be the better choice

and seriously unless you already know what the fuck youre doing please for the love of god dont take a soldering iron to a 30 year old synth expecting everything to be okay

New thread?

>>73535424
>nobody is even sure why the resonance is different because the discrete circuit design on the filter was exactly the same minus being set up as a single ic on the 106?
It might be because the capacitors are different. The Sequential Circuits Pro One has always been known for having super nasty sounding resonance compared to other synths that use the same exact filter IC. If you replace the ceramic disc capacitors (which are nonlinear and change their capacitance as a function of the applied voltage) with film capacitors, it sounds much smoother and more like other synths. The thick film hybrid modules in the Juno 106 use SMD capacitors. They could use a different dielectric material than the Juno 60.

>and seriously unless you already know what the fuck youre doing please for the love of god dont take a soldering iron to a 30 year old synth expecting everything to be okay

No way man, just go at it until the solder pads separate from the board, then mix up the connectors when you put it back together. The guy who repairs it after you will just love that.

>>73535470
If someone makes a new thread, remember to use the new pastebin, like this OP did

https://pastebin.com/08mwwiAV

>>73527350
Don't they have midi to DCB converters?

>>73535167
Can you post what you got? That would be hella nice.

>>73535370
That's what I did, I bought an Ensoniq ES-Q1 from a pawn shop for 200 dollars and love it to death.

>>73535499
Even then yeah not all caps age the same either.

Cont.
Would really say unless you specifically want the weird resonance on the filter of the juno 60 you're so much better off with a 106, and you aren't sacrificing anything. If you're gonna end up modding the 60 to fit MIDI, you might as well mod the 106 to add the arp feature and extra LFO options.

>>73535330
Because you have exposed yourself more than you realize

But go ahead and keep replying :^)

>>73535924
>Even then yeah not all caps age the same either.
I don't know that aging effects are actually significant here. It doesn't really matter that much if the component values drift or whatever in a resonant filter.

>Would really say unless you specifically want the weird resonance on the filter of the juno 60 you're so much better off with a 106, and you aren't sacrificing anything.

The 106 has portamento and the 60 can modulate the pulse width with the envelope. Honestly I'm not crazy about either of them and I don't know why they're so desirable. They make like three good sounds, and you've heard those sounds a million times already.

>>73535370
>most interesting
>hardware

>>73534823
Imagine you're actually playing piano (or actually play it on a keyboard)

Velocity is higher on the first of a sequence of fast notes, don't make every note of the chord hit exactly in time or togwther

>>73535988
once again no argument, no substance, just bullshit

>>73536188
>asking for own incompetence to be spelled out
wew

>>73536017
>They make like three good sounds
I would disagree but I've used them frequently.

For me at least it's because the synths are incredibly simple, have nice filters, and the chorus can be amazing. You need to be going after something pretty specific to use one proper, and I do think many people have buyer's remorse on them since they change hands very often compared to other vintage synths.

I have Reason essentials 9 and a Yamaha Cs-10 & Korg poly 800 for synthesizer leads/basslines/pads
im curiois about midi controllers and would like to know if reason has any good VSTs?

>>73536334
>midi controllers
do the yam and korg not have midi out????

or do you just want more knobs..?

>>73536383
nayrt, but often it's better to be able to assign the channel through the controller when you're trying to control multiple synths. also, record + play buttons are convenient.