Could /mu/ be able to pull off a suffering chart?
/his/ are close to finish and /tv/ and /v/ already finished
I'm not doing this though I'm suggesting the idea
pic is /tv/
I doubt it honestly. Maybe you could do it with memey scaruffi scores
Yeezy top left
That one pedo from that crunk core group somewhere on the right
Who is top right?
>>73046633
Ian Watkins
>>73046665
Probably, yeah, but I meant in the TV chart
>>73046665
Would Jackson C Frank be top left?
>>73046777
Nick Drake and Elliott Smith are good choices too.
Courtney Love should go bottom right.
>>73046157
this is going to be predictable and cringeworthy considering how much of a fedora and reddit board /mu/ is
Tangerine Dream's 2/10 streak covers top left
I remember /co/ finished their's
/mu/ though, it would be interesting but how the hell would that work out?
I just know that Syd Barrett, Brian Wilson, and Daniel Johnson would had suffer 90-100%
>>73046633
this
>>73048441
Mike Love, therefore, would maybe be in the bottom-right corner
>>73046157
You'll need to make a /mu/ chart and a chart thread first, OP. I'm actually curious about how /mu/ would do it.
>>73048441
who's top left?
>>73048607
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_Wind_Blows_(1986_film)
also does /mu/ really know 200 musicians?
>>73048607
Jesus himself
sun ra toward top or maybe mid left
The problem with this is we know almost everything about fictional characters but not as much when it comes to musicians with mostly private lives. Zappa deserves around 40 for suffering and around 25 for how much he did.
Beefheart top right
>>73048441
Chris-Chan on top right
my sides
>>73048441
who's bottom right?
>>73049013
Clarissa's Dad from that Clarissa webcomic. He's pretty bad.
>>73049107
I just read that and now I'm sad. Music for this feel?
>>73049259
Buyer's Market
Where would we put Gary Glitter?
>>73049782
8 for suffering and 8 for deserving it
does anyone actually want to do this?
>>73049798
He's a repeat-offending pederast, it should be 7:suffering and 10:deserving it
>>73046157
post /v/'s chart
>>73049856
if we did a chart for individual people, sure, but if we did make the chart we'd actually have to put other people, and there were probably people who did worse things that would fit in that category
>>73049924
Just in case people still ask
I'm not doing this
Maybe some other anon starts it
But not me, I'm busy af
>>73050154
I think xxxtentacion should be somewhere in the top right
>>73050019
Let's start this shit:
>pic related
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 50
>>73050154
>beefheart didnt deserve it
>tortured his crew
>>73050175
more like bottom right
get this madman somewhere in the top right
>>73050204
Isn't that Nick Drake tho in the top left
>>73050204
where do you see beefheart in that chart? do you have autism?
>>73050154
Brian Wilson next to Nick Drake.
Daniel Johnston might fit somewhere in that area as well. Ian Curtis is another pick.
Any idea on Reznor's placement?
I'm >>73050154, I guess I'll start making the chart. Give suggestions and if I think they make sense I'll put them. I'm working with Paint so be patient.
>>73050081
>Ballos
>Deserving of suffering
Miles should be about 75, 25 on here.
Suffering: 60
Deserves: 30
>>73050175
>xxxtentacion
(S: 30, D: 60)
>>73050217
>John Lennon
(S: 35, D: 50)
>>73050243
You're supposed to add onto it, dipstick. That or let one dude do it.
>>73050266
don't forget >>73050187
>>73050266
Use http://picresize.com/ for cropping and resizing because Paint's resizing looks like garbage.
The squares are 97x97 IIRC
>>73050243
>Lives enough to see all the musicians that came after him die
>Sees all his friends die
>Mike Love still lives and has the Beach Boys name that Brian made acclaimed
Yes he suffered but not more than Jackson C Frank
>>73050266
beefheart near the top right corner, if not at the top right corner. The dude starved his band, tortured them, and threw his drummer down a flight of stairs, telling him never to come back, because he didn't know how to play a strawberry on the drums.
Nick Drake, Brian Wilson, and Syd Barrett top left.
>>73050286
>(S: 35, D: 50)
He's an abusive asshole to his wife and child, but he was also assassinated while he was young. These both need to be bumped up.
Suffering: 85
Deserves: 5
>>73050266
Suffering: 70
Deserved: 30
>>73050308
>being assassinated = suffering
Wut
This guy belongs in the bottom right corner, next to Gene Simmons
>>73050331
>dying violently isn't suffering
Suffered: 90
Deserved: 0
PWR BTTM
S:100 D:50
Sufjan Stevens
S:80 D:0
Mark Kozelek
S:60 D:60
Jeff Mangum
S:90 D:10
Suffering: 75
Deserves: 40
>>73046157
Grimes bottom right.
>>73050341
Hence why it's 35 and not 5 or 100
You don't get 100 suffering just for being killed. That throws off the entire equilibrium
Suffering: 55
Deserve it: 50
Suffering: 80
Deserves: 10
Suffering: 65
Deserves: 45
Ian Curtis
S:100 D:10
Thom Yorke
S:70 D:20
Fred Durst
Suffer:30
Deserve:70
>>73050387
>Ian suffering 100
80 at the very least
>>73050406
Fred should be around a 50, really. He's been suffering crippling depression (basically the reason they haven't released a new album in so long) and he's fully aware that he's a music punchline, but he's sorta moved past being able to take that in stride because he's lost most of his fanbase from them just growing up.
>>73050154
also why isn't sarah bonito in the bottom left
Nico
S: 100
D: 50
I contributed to the /tv/ one but imo the only good chart so far has been the /co/ one- it's the only one that hasn't double-dipped in memes or waifuism or bullshit contrivances. I think /mu/ has the potential to be up there with the /co/ chart based solely off how this thread is going so far
S: 50 D: 25
S: 25
D: 90
>>73050448
Nico is more of a 95/65 girl
>>73050448
spot's taken hombre
Lou Reed
S: 55 D: 5
Kanye should go somewhere near the top right. He's a crazy asshole but he's also been through a lot of tough shit.
Suffering: 90
Deserved: 0
S: 90
D: 30
Suffering: 25
Deserves: 60
This guy is just so lovely
Pure s20/d0
UPDATE: If you don't post a picture and just give me a bullshit approximation (ex: around bottom left), then I won't put it on the chart. Same if you don't pay attention and put it where an artist already is
>>73050480
Maybe (S: 85, D: 75)
Beefheart 100/100
>>73050503
bit of a cunt he is, on occasion
S: 70
D: 20
>>73050323
deserves at least 50
>>73050487
S: 91
D: 0
>>73050516
don't forget to post your progress every now and then bruv
>>73050459
His S should be somewhere around 70 or 80, and it has nothing to do with his rape allegations at all. Ctrl+F "Gira's second time" and read from there.
http://www.self-titledmag.com/2014/08/22/in-search-of-the-real-michael-gira-from-prison-stays-and-madonna-sightings-to-the-second-coming-of-swans/
>>73050540
There are no 91s dude
Also D Boon is S:80 D:15
>>73050538
I forgot they had to be dead lel
ignore this
>>73050516
Here then
>>73050520
>>73050558
Nah, Gira's S should be close to the middle
Like 40
That should be good
S: 90
D: 5
Might as well post, in case this goes somewhere
Moondog
S - 50
D - 0
Robert Johnson
S - 80
D - 40
Robert Smith
S - 45
D - 25
Daniel Johnston
S - 75
D - 10
Jeff Mangum
S - 45
D - 25
Aphex
S - 25
D - 30
Dennis Wilson
S - 100
D - Absolute 0
>>73050540
95,0
>>73048441
When the wind blows, fuck man
>>73048441
>morel orel
those feels hit me like a pound of bricks
S: 75 D: 30
>>73050584
You got that in reverse bruv
>>73050588
U forgetting the image
Rachel S:5 D:5
S: 40
D: 40
>>73050605
wait the simple plan guy has that already lol
make it 75 / 25
>>73050286
xxxtentacion needs to be D80+
>>73050472
Place her somewhere aprox to that
update (this while take a while)
>>73050641
S:100
D:100
S:35
D:55
I'm not sure about this D
>>73050641
MC Ride was posted before Nico.
You already failed at following your own rules...
S: 0
D: 95
These chart threads should be limited to fiction people desu
This is just memes and politics and favoritism now
S: 95
D: 30
>>73050641
>Sufjan's mother died
>Gets 75 suffering spot
Wow, its almost like he's the only one on the planet. Dude, he isn't even sad, did you listen to his music? Move that faggot from that spot.
Grimes
S: 5
D: 95
>>73050657
He is more 25/75
>>73050690
Tell that to /his/
>Kurt Cobain that far in the top left
You do know his suffering is literally his own fault right
>>73050673
MC Ride doesn't really fit 100 suffering to me, it seemed like a meme post to me, unless you have a better place for him
>>73050709
/his/ chart failed because every suggestion turned into an argument.
>>73050673
>>73050718
MC Ride suffering is ALL his own fault. He even says so in his lyrics.
>>73050641
I think Shinji Sato and Phil Elverum should switch places, and Varg should be further to the bottom right. (Norwegian prison is cushy as fuck to the extent that he was able to record multiple album in his cell bigger than some apartments in NYC, he still has records being released that he has a decent following for, and he has no remorse at all for his murders, arson, or being a Nazi)
>>73050708
What did Grimes ever do besides making music you don't like to deserve D:95?
>>73050718
Not the original dude but chartmakers can't be biased with this shit no matter what. Meme or not
>>73050708
have you read the lyrics on Illinoise and C&L? Only someone who has known true suffering can write heavy shit like that
>>73050774
fine, I got you, I'll put him a little below Nico, since I'm too lazy to swap them
>>73050772
I'll start making changes when everything is done
>>73050641
S: 45
D: 35
S: 70
D: 0
I'd lower:
Sufjan to 55
Elverum to 65
Nick Drake to 85
And put Jackson C Frank in 100
S = 0
D = 10
>>73050641
S: 0
D: 50
>>73050844
keeping the balls empty and the belly full
>>73050780
If you're referring to John Wayne Gacy Jr, the closing verse is pretty standard in Protestant Christian thought. Also, re: VCD, pretty much everyone I know has dealt with a close friend or family member dying of cancer. If you wanna justify him deserving anything over S:50, how about talking about his congenital central nervous system problems?
http://exclaim.ca/music/article/sufjan_stevens_discusses_his_serious_issues
S: 30
D: 70
>>73050853
hehe ;D
>>73050641
suffering: 45
how much they deserved it: 10
>>73050780
Illinoise is uplifting album. Most of the sad songs are not about his own experience's but someone else perspective like Casimir Pulanski Day where he describes serial killers point of view. CnL whole album is about his mother death as I said. Its sad but it's not his WHOLE damn life. You don't know what real suffering is.
>>73050828
Its something like this and I would be embarrassed to put him even close to Sufjan.
>>73050801
put grimes at deserved it 100
I think Kanye needs to be very high in the upper right
His suffering:
>Crashed his car, getting him through the wire
>Girlfriend left him
>Mom died and he believes it's his fault as he wanted to giver her what's best in life
>Seen as a pariah by the media and average joe
>His mentor and father figure doesn't want to work with him
>Had suicidal/ill thoughts, only to be mocked by the media (Twice, in 808's period mocked by South Park and thus everyone else, and last year where he was mentally ill and everyone jumped on him for it)
Deserved:
>Kardashian
>Has always been a dick to others
>The infamous VMAs and Katrina relief moments
>Has fucked certain people over while creating music (stole from Chance for example)
>Has made various outbursts, specifically on TV networks
S: 70
D: 80
>>73050916
I think you need to read
>>73050516
>>73050641
Layne Staley
Suffered: 100
Deserved: 20 or so
S: 10
D: 80
Suffering: 40
Deserves: 70
>>73050946
yeah, this
>>73050931
pictures, lad
>>73050866
>>73050889
the last verse from Eugene
>What’s left is only bittersweet
>For the rest of my life, admitting the best is behind me
>Now I’m drunk and afraid, wishing the world would go away
>What’s the point of singing songs
>If they’ll never even hear you?
if this isn't worth 70 i don't know what is
>>73050928
I can't give Kanye an exact spot because he's a difficult person to think about. He has suffered a lot, but he has also succeeded alot. He has reasons to suffer, but he also has done a lot of good shit.
>>73050916
At least 3/5 of you deserveds are valid reasons
S:20
D:70
>>73050990
*aren't
S: 40
D: 50
>>73050916
>Crashed his car, getting him through the wire
ok
>>Girlfriend left him
happens to everyone
>Mom died and he believes it's his fault as he wanted to giver her what's best in life
really not that bad
>Seen as a pariah by the media and average joe
that can be good or bad
>His mentor and father figure doesn't want to work with him
so?
>Had suicidal/ill thoughts, only to be mocked by the media (Twice, in 808's period mocked by South Park and thus everyone else, and last year where he was mentally ill and everyone jumped on him for it)
so do a lot of people
to be honest most of this really doesn't count as that bad when other people in the upper part of the graph deal with serious chronic and mental illness, death, addiction, starvation, and torture
>>73051007
That's just all I could remember, I know there's probably some worse shit Yeezy's done, I'm just a fan desu.
>>73050641
S: 40
D: 15
>>73050972
S:35
D:5
gonna start editing these charts myself and injecting them into threads like these so they're accepted as the official version
my autism can't handle the fucking Driver deserving his suffering less than John Wayne and Dale Cooper, meme or not
S: 30
D: 45
>>73046157
>smug patrick
wut?
>>73051047
Forgot the pic
>>73051062
S:0
D:0
>>73051062
D is more like 85
S: 5
D: 60
>>73050978
He described how important his mother was to him by exaggeration. He's Christian you dumb idiot. Even if he's sad sometimes he has positive outlook on the world.
Sometimes I'm really baffled by how delusional some kids are.
>muh favorite artist is SO SAD!!!!!!!! :((((
S: 15
D: 10
Jackson C Frank NEEDS to be S:100, D:0, life hasn't dealt a shittier hand
>>73051093
Ok asshole, since you're such an expert on sad music, why don't you give us an example of sad music?
S: 40
D: 80
Suffering: 40
Deserves: 100 for turning the band into sell-out garbage
S: 15
D: 20
S: 25
D: 70
I love him and he's one of my music heroes but I can't deny the fact that he's a total dick.
Also,
>Kim Gordon
S: 40
D: 55
Mingus
S:50
D:50
S: 40
D: 0
S: 85
D: 60
We need more people in the upper right
S:85
D:85
S: 25
D: 60
>>73051124
Like I pointed before and many other anons said, Jackson C Frank probably had worst life of any musicians. Is his music the saddest? Probably not, but there's some crazy foreshadowing feel of all the terrible things that will happen to him.
>>73051193
Dude Rivers Cuomo is at like suffering 50
>>73051193
Other way round
>>73051081
John Lennon was basically miserable his whole life and was violently murdered and yet fucking Father John Misty supposedly suffers more than him??
Lower Misty's S to 35 and raise John to 80 or 85.
S:60
D:90
>>73051142
his 'suffering' is 20 at best, but the rest is correct
>>73051221
holy shit wew
>>73050801
>>73051181
S: 70
D: 80
S: 90
D: 90
Serj Tankian
S:80
D:40
S: 90
D: 20
S: 20
D: 85
s10
d10
>>73051221
Tillman is diagnosed with depression. Just because he's a pretentious twat doesn't mean he has not suffered in his life.
S: 95
D: 10
S: 20
D: 20
>>73046157
Where's Leon?
>>73051242
Forgot the image.
>>73050347
>>73050381
I don't think either of these have really suffered that bad compared to some others. Yeah gene's been through some bad relationships, but neither have either done anything super bad or had anything super bad done to them
>>73051296
Exactly what suffering has he been through
>>73051292
I think 35 is more than enough suffering for a rich famous musician with depression.
S: 35
D: 35
S: 10
D: 100
>>73051308
Pretentious cunt. D should be at least 60.
S: 45
D: 100
>>73051296
top kek
I don't know about this one
I guess S:45 D:85?
S: 25
D: 100
>>73051288
nigga died at 33, I'd say a bit more than 10 suffering
>>73051327
His entire music career is based on being sad all the time
>>73051340
>Pretentious cunt
how?
>>73051329
Yes because wealth matter when you are mentally ill.
Fucking end yourself idiot.
S:5
D:80
>>73051355
Lol
If we go by that it should be 20
>>73051366
Whoops
S: 10
D: 5
>>73051350
Amp up that sufferin'
>>73051356
Just watch her interviews. She acts like she was such an important figure but she's just a Katy Perry for artsy kids.
>>73051374
What did this nigga do?
>>73051364
lmao
>>73051374
He's that of a cunt? I don't know shit about him
>>73051389
Why is frank ocean on here twice
>>73051350
>>73051387
75 is ok?
>>73051415
Do your research man. He's a pretty shitty person
>>73051417
shit. need someone for S:95 D:10
>>73051389
Jackson C. Frank should be
S:100
D:10
S: 85
D: 45
>>73050584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiaYDPRedWQ
>>73051432
>>73051374
S: 10
D: 70
>>73051389
I think you got Marilyn wrong
>>73051171
I would add up the deserving due to the whole recording minors porn or whatever
S: 30
D: 30
>>73051389
I'd still like to know why Claypool is up that high
Seems like a nice, easygoing guy
>>73051388
>Just watch her interviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU2Z_yQHs3U
how is she pretentious?
>she's just a Katy Perry for artsy kids
what does this even mean?
>>73051389
In what world Mac DeMarco suffered more than Frank Ocean? It doesn't make any sense
Yung Lean
S: 25
D: 40
>>73051449
why does he deserve so much?
>>73051389
Sid vicious. 100 suffering, 40 deserved it
>>73051460
>Mac has grown without his dad
>Frank is gay
Makes me think
S:95
D:25
They kinda shot themselves in the foot after Paul left to do his solo stuff.
S: 10
D: 20
>>73051324
Gener had really bad drug problems, that ultimately was the main cause of the band's demise. Both Gener and Deaner also lived on a commune for the beginning of their career. Communes are pretty shitty living tbqh.
>>73051457
I won't argue with you faggot. Go dick yourself
>>73051484
SICC RIVVZ BRAH
S: 10
D: 65
http://standardcriteria.ca/cool-story/mac-demarco-filmed-porn-in-front-of-minors-and-me/
Add more suffering to MacBriare
S:80
D:100
>>73051507
But Anon he started from the bottom tho.
Kinda relevant
S: 50
D: 5
S: 25
D: 5
>>73051509
*i meant deserving
>>73051492
go back to your shitposting board >>>/b/
S: 60
D: 0
>>73051487
yea gener did have that drug thing
neither of them ever complain about living/recording at the pod. They made it their own, and gave it personality through their music. I wouldn't count that as a downside
S: 25
D: 75
>>73051479
Yes but Mac is chill as fuck. He might have suffered with that in his past but it seems it doesn't bother him anymore.
I might be wrong tho. Mac is getting sadder and sadder with his music.
>>73050480
>>73050520
he doesn't really deserve to suffer, he's kind of a dick , but he hasn't done anything particularly wrong. Also he hasn't suffered that much, he's just dealt with depression and death, nothing the average person doesn't go through. He's more like 55/25
>>73051541
*S: 65
D: 0
My bad OP
>>73050641
S: 75
D: 10
S: 15
D: 90
>>73051588
Huh?
>>73051541
who?
D:80
S:35
>>73051588
The fuck did doom do? Also add more suffering due to the ending of KMD and where that left him.
S: 65
D: 5
>>73051588
He's not a cunt, he's just a lazy fatass.
D should be like 45 or 50.
>>73051541
You can't do 0 dumbass
S: 65
D: 5
>>73051594
Fake DOOM's playing shows and general being a dick to fans
>>73051449
wtf did david byrne do wrong?
>>73051628
Part of the villain persona
>>73051087
S:5
D:∞
>>73051645
Well doesn't a villain deserve backlash?
>>73051628
Yea but 90? Not even Varg is 90 in D
>>73050641
Have you guys even heard swans' music? Gira suffering should easily be at least 90. Also he was in prison at a young age. Worse than most the others above him
>>73047324
perfect
>>73051651
What did Panda Bear do?
S: 100
D: 50
>>73051673
I'm just doing what people tell me man
S: 10
D: 95
>>73051651
>Scaruffi
>100
Alright what the fuck?
>>73051651
thanks for doing this brotha
>>73051688
>Bowie
>100 only cus cancer
He's 60
S: 95
D: 80
S: 40
D: 60
>>73051651
Is Roger Waters already in there? If not:
S: 35 Cause of Muh Daddy Issues
D: 65 Cause of taking over Pink Floyd and putting it further away from it's psychedelic roots. And for not helping Syd out more than just making a tribute album, even if that tribute album is 10/10.
S: 30
D: 100
>>73051588
he lost his brother and spent some years being basically homeless, both of which happened to him as a teenager. His suffering should be higher
>>73051732
Forgot pic
S: 95
D: 95
>>73051651
You should filter memes dude. Like Liam deserving 100 of suffering. He's just a banter britibong.
Sure he's a dickhead but a fucking 100?
>>73051710
He's kind of 40:20. He had it relatively alright aside from the cancer thing and dead brother.
>>73048594
his underage daughter got fucked, married and impregnated by his nearly forty year old cousin. she also died at an early age
S:55
D:30
Varg dindu nuffin
>>73051754
>>73051732
>implying he doesn't deserve 80+
the dude was a narcissistic cunt
>>73051768
this chart is kinda meant to be a meme tho
>>73051732
>>73051794
Damn, that bad? Well then make it 80
>>73051651
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rubinstein
dave rubinstein, dude's life was fucking tragic
s 100
d 25
S:25
D:75
He's chilled out know but back then he was a a dick.
>>73050154
xxxtentacion needs to be like 70 s
>>73051651
S: 10
D: 15
>>73051656
lolz
Delia Derbyshire
>created early synthesizer stuff in 1960's
>no one cared back then cept some dr. who fans
>literally married some guy she hates cuz no one liked her
S:60
D:10
S: 100
D: Very low.
How had no one mentioned based Welsey yet? Schizophrenia is truly haunting and awful and he fought it with music.
>>73051844
Fuck, forgot pic, shouldn't be doing this at 6 am
>>73051854
pic
>>73051724
More like D: 80
>>73051142
this post is horrendously confusing to me
S: 70
D: 10
>>73051275
>>>is a pedo
fuck right off he deserves all his suffering
S: 10
D: 75
>>73051651
>mike jackson is a pedo
>doesnt deserve to suffer
kys child molester
S: 40
D: 65
S: 40
D: 40
>>73051688
>>73051694
>>73051720
>>73051724
yes
S: 70
D: 15
Viper the rapper
S: 15
D: 35
>>73051933
S:20
D:10
>>73051939
this man hard as fuck he suffer at least 80 if not more. He smoke crack an been in tha pen many time.
>>73051651
>Nick Drake
What the fuck did he even """suffer""" through besides meme depression and being a virgin?
>>73046157
Dan barrett
S: 65
D: 55
>>73051682
Can someone please explain this
S:40
D:0
Small image so you don't make her look like shit while resizing it anon
someone make a new thread please
>>73052012
see
>>73051142
makes no sense to me either
>>73050154
Nick Drake definitely deserved it. Whiney piece of shit
>>73051939
Change to:
S: 80
D: 15
>>73052026
Make Roger Waters an 80 in Deserving
>>73052026
Oh shit didn't see Demarco's
put Bjork at S:45
>>73052026
I'm doing it
S: 100
D: 10
Roky Erikckson of The 13th Floor Elevators
S: 95
D: 15
> in 1969, Erickson was arrested for possession of marijuana when he was found with a single joint, an event that would change his life. To avoid jail time, Erickson pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. He was sent to Rusk State Hospital for the criminally insane where the singer was diagnosed with schizophrenia. He subsequently received heavy medication and electroshock therapy for the next several years.
>Since his release in 1972, he has undergone several musical comeback phases in between his bouts with mental illness. He believed that his body was inhabited by aliens and was arrested in 1990 for stealing his neighbor’s junk mail and pinning it to his walls.
>>73052026
S: 15
D: 15
>>73052026
S: 30
D: 95
>>73052077
Wait no you did already
>>73052049
Bipolar schizophrenic who dropped out of college to pursue a music career which went nowhere because he would have nervous breakdowns if he had to perform or do interviews?
>>73052026
S: 20
D: 90