Leak?

do not play with my heart anon

Pleassseee

>>72701363
it's all i'm waiting for buddy, need those sweet sweet bucolic vibes in my life

>>72701316
>>72701363
They are out. I know. Trust me. I don't have a copy though. I highly doubt this one will be leaked though.

>>72701511
part of me hopes it doesn't to be honest. robin is such a nice guy I would feel bad not waiting till release day

>>72701511
Why do you say that

>>72701523
Such a dilemma. If it leaks, I won't have the self control to not listen

>>72701544
me neither, my hype is way too strong. the reviews so far have been nothing but stellar

>>72701526
Which part? I know copies are out because I know people who have them. I do not think it will leak because of the type of album this is. But who knows; the new Slowdive leaked and I didn't expect that.

A couple of reviewers have said they received their digital copies today. It's definitely out there

>>72701686
Robin was interviewed by Zane Lowe yesterday and he had already heard the album.

>>72701705
We've confirmed people have copies, we just want the leak

>>72701705
Right, someone on r/fleet_foxes mentioned advanced copies went out this morning too. Definitely expecting a leak sometime today.

What songs are you most hyped for? I've heard all the live recordings multiple times but they seem to have evolved given that album trailer video. I really really want to hear the closing title track, the opening track, and If You Need to, Keep Time on Me. Luckily we'll be getting Fool's Errand as a single/music video soon, which sounds like a really good song.

>>72701769
Mearcstapa for me. And arroyo seco/thumbprint scar is supposed to be phenomenal

>>72701739
I just hope it's better quality than the HB leak

>>72701739
Is that the timeline leaks usually happen on? Never really followed a release this closely before.

>>72701791
same here desu. Pumped to hear the train track percussion thing going on

>>72701803
Ehhh, there's not exactly a formula for how leaks happen. But this is kinda the first stage or so where a leak could happen. People definitively own copies of the album now. With every copy out there a leak becomes more and more likely.

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>>72701803
Doesn't really answer your question but I like posting this infographic, so here

>>72701937
>like Sonic Arts to add a digital encryption code that can identify uploading evildoers
Can't you remove that?

>>72701937
>>72701803
So yeah, we're at the Press/Plant stage right now. The first part where a leak is actually pretty likely. It's different with every record though.

>>72702000
Trips of truth. But seriously I have a feeling this is the type of album that doesn't get leaked until like a week before or the day it's supposed to be released. I don't know why just a feel.

>>72702039
I hope you're wrong. I generally don't expect leaks until physicals are out though

I'm so fucking hyped lads. Odaigahara is my song of the year so far.

C'mon music journalist friends...

Peer pressure. Just do it. For the greater good!

PLEASE

If it's HD, I won't be able to resist.

>>72701316
DEAK IT LEAK

GUYS IT LEAKED

>>72703172
Where

>>72703172
holy fuck you're right

>>72703234
>>72703302
I just uploaded my copy to my hard drive.
6%

>>72703302
WHERE

Where the hell is it!?

>>72703333
Can't you find it? It's spreading everywhere.

I've been looking around. Seen nothing.

>>72703391
Ditto. Must be trolling

>>72703172
LINK BRO

>>72703391
Where exactly do you look around? Figured the first place it's likely to get posted is here. Is there somewhere else I should be checking?

Lads this better be true. 3rd of may is SOTY

>>72703443
I think we've been had. Can't find anything. But I don't really know where to look either

Damn, this sounds amazing. What do you guys think of it so far?

>>72703443
hasitleaked.com

>>72703443
Major torrent sites. Recently uploaded section up until around a few hours ago. Haven't found anything. Pretty sure trolls above, but maybe its on private trackers?

>>72703470

I just finished my first listen, it's a solid 8/10

I like the song about the squirrel

>>72703478
Nah it's not on WFM or APL yet

can confirm nothing on Redacted.CH

>>72703470
It's great. The opener is lush and heavenly.

>>72703470
Only on track 2 so far but this is fantastic

http://i.imgur.com/x9NeOWp.jpg its legit people. reviewers have it. but its watermarked

STOP TELLING US WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE AND HAND IT OVER

>>72703505
Goddammit, trolls found the thread. Fuck 4chan

>>72703553
Hey /r/fleet_foxes tourist

>>72703541
DUBS CONFIRM!

>>72703541
We know reviewers have it, the question is is it out there?

>>72703570
You're not wrong

album will be on Kingdom Leaks in a few minutes. no trolling this time.

>>72703634
Where'd they get it from?

>>72703634
If you bamboozle....

>>72703634
Big if true...

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>>72703662
looks like one of their staff (mod maybe?) posted this a few minutes ago. Doesn't really say whether or not its crack up though

>>72703707
This is the most confirmation we've had all day. I'll take it.

>>72703707
Bump because it's actually happening now and everything before was just shitposting.

Yep its crack up. Leaked

ITS LEAKED

Link

https://kingdom-leaks.com/index.php?/forums/topic/7036-fleet-foxes-crack-up-2017/

>>72703855
oh gosh

>>72703855

IT'S LEGIT

>>72703855
FUCK

128? no thanks

>>72703855
>128kbps

>>72703946
Is that that bad? Should I wait?

>>72704006
Not bad, but not how I want to listen to it for the first time.

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>>72704006
take this test http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2009/03/mp3-sound-quality-test-128-320/

sounds pretty good for a 128. Kingdom Leaks always follows through.

>>72703855
Just had a quick listen. It's real but honestly 128 kbps is just not good enough for it. The whole thing sounds slightly indistinct, vocals, arrangements, everything important. Sorry boys but I think we'll be waiting a little longer

Is it listenable

If I get really high will it still sound good

I can't believe it leaked

>>72704321
I'm listening now and if you absolutely can't wait, I'd say get it. It sounds great and I'm glad I didn't wait for better quality. I'm fucking creaming over this album.

I'm 3 songs in and it's wonderful

You 128-kb faggots should have some more respect for yourselves.

only thing that makes me hesitate is if it's watermarked...is there going to be some abrupt shit in here that takes me out of it?

>>72704556
its not

>>72704522
>>72704283
i mean, its pretty much just youtube quality... its okay for now t b h

>>72704522
I do. That's why I'm enjoying this album long before you will because I'm not too elitist to listen to it because the sound quality is less than perfect. Seriously, anon, it sounds great. Stop denying yourself.

>>72704556
it "skips" at the end of track 2 but i can't tell if that's intentional or not. very minor, but it's there. that's all i've heard so far

Motherfucker, why did it have to be 128kbs?

What's the chance we get a better leak by tonight?

Robin I know there's like a 90% chance you browse here, just fuckin leak it dude.

This album is very surprising. Twists and turns in ways that I'd not expect. It's leagues ahead of anything they've done prior.

So do reviewers only get 128kbps copies of albums? Or is it just from plebs trying to remove the watermarks and they save it poorly?

Obvious AOTY candidate

>>72704802
Why are you talking like it's embargoed to talk about it or something?

>>72704802
banana_anus

How do you mean?

OP here. After much deliberation, I have decided to hang on. Been waiting for fucking ages already and less than a month is manageable I think

>>72703855
Hey, that's pretty good

Kingdom updated with a 320 copy. Anyone know if it's legit?

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>>72704802
you what?

320 leak is out. http://www91.zippyshare.com/v/j6BoWjpO/file.html

I was so fucking hyped for this but I gotta say, I don't know how I feel about this one. There are so many great parts but most of the songs sound so pretentiously fragmented and oblique. Fool's Errand is the only song I think pulls this style off well.

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>>72705690

>>72705802
what does this mean?

>>72705802
im 12 and what is this

>>72705785
is this legit?

>>72706080
>>72706088
Google "music transcode spectrogram" and stop being new

>>72706136
yeah but what does that mean, that's what it is now what does that picture mean re: the question asked

>>72704802
>>72705732
lel

>>72705785
>ttp://www91.zippyshare.com/v/j6BoWjpO/file.html
this legitimate?

>>72706191
Yeah. Noticeably better than the original leak.

>>72706191
That's the one from Kingdom so probably

>>72706080
320 cuts off around 20khz and 128 cuts off around 16 khz

so is this album good music?

>>72706160
The picture is of a spectrogram, which in this case is used to detect transcodes in music (a transcode is bad, not legit). You can look at the difference between a 320 file and a transcoded 320 file and see the difference. The picture shows a legit 320 file

>>72705802
damn

>>72706080
>>72706088
Mean's it's transcoded

al frequencies above 20khz have been hard cut

Yo this is actually really interesting.

Considerably more texture based than what they've done before.

I wonder how uber normies will react to this because there really isn't a single "hit"–if you will–on this album. The self-titled had White Winter Hymnal, Tiger Mountain Peasant Song, He Doesn't Know Why, Blue Ridge Mountains and so on. Helplessness Blues had Montezuma, the title track, The Shrine / An Argument, Grown Ocean. Crack-Up really only has (sort of) Third of May and Fool's Errand.

>>72706389
I dunno man, On Another Ocean is pretty accessible too

>>72706389
>The Shrine / An Argument
>"hit"

>>72706265
What does that mean?

>>72706426
you forgot the "if you will" part. You can't deny that The Shrine / An Argument was and is a popular song, regardless of its length.

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Is anyone else getting SMiLE vibes from this?

It feels really Brian Wilson-ey and not even from the harmonies, but from the production/song structure.

I really fucking like this, this honestly the exact direction they needed to go in.

guys its good

it's pretty backloaded

cool tho

well at least people can't bitch about them being generic indie folk anymore.

I honestly have no clue how the general reaction to this album will be.

I'm really interested in seeing how this plays out, regardless the fact they even went in a direction like this is admirable.

>>72706813
I'm expecting some Kid A level divisiveness desu. There is waaaay less emphasis on catchy/melodic song writing this time around and much more on textural/structural experimentation. The lyrics are also more obscure than they've ever been.
If not for Third Of May/Fool's Errand/Kept Woman I'm guessing most "normies" would dismiss this record.

>>72706813
In term of critical reception? It'll be praised. Probably an 88/100 on Metacritic. In terms of fans? /mu/tants will like it and normies will like it while secretly wishing they were listening to another self-titled.

>>72706972
>There is waaaay less emphasis on catchy/melodic song writing this time around and much more on textural/structural experimentation

Exactly what I was thinking. Honestly the way they're placing focus on texture through primarily acoustic instrumentation with melodies that even seem to draw your attention to it is something that I haven't ever really heard before. I don't even know if I consider a "success" but it's certainly interesting, and I hope people pay it enough mind there.

>>72707045
I fear it'll get a negative to mediocre response across the board. Critics will say they jumped the shark, normies won't get it, and the general /mu/ population won't be able to put aside their biases on the band to really embrace it (I already see people chastising them for experimentation, even though it's supposed "blandness" that most of this band shits on them for). I hope not, but I could see this happening.

>>72707192
*most of this board

>>72706264
>The picture shows a legit 320 file
>>72706265
>Mean's it's transcoded

ok so which is it?

Bought a ticket to the MPP show a while back


my hype has now ascended to the stratosphere after listening to the leak

>>72707215
It's not transcoded, it's a good copy.

went to the listening party/ watched the interview there about influences, this album is a such a huge step forward composition wise. it samples tezeta (nostalgia) by mulatu astatke, and this african tribe who plays a river like a percussion instrument. track 2 has some crazy delay loops and the track builds and evolves from that steve reich style. some parts were heavily influenced by david behrman and other early computer music, this album is almost as much modern classical composition as it is indie folk.

every track is great, theres no one song thats purely pretty folk music, the most basic parts are bookended by challenging parts

aoty personally. this band is gonna be so cool in the future, robin talked about how hes wanted to make something like this for a while but didn't feel capable, now that he's coming into his own (which is crazy to say, he had aoty 2008 too) some crazy progressive stuff is gonna be coming out. when i asked he said he's back fully into the writing touring recording releasing schedule so i'm expecting more amazing stiff

>>72707215
>>72706265
>>72706264

the point is that it's a good transcode. frequency cut off at 20kHz means that it's a legit 320kbps audio file which proofs that it has decent audio quality

>>72707192
>I hope not, but I could see this happening.
I really can't.

>>72707290
did he talk about the solo album he announced a while back?

this is not what I expected a fleet foxes album to sound like.

>>72707359
he didnt name it specifically he just said he's back into the swing of things. with no specification either way its a possibility that that's that

>>72701523
as bad as I want to listen to it right now I respect Robin to much to do it, with that being said I hope it doesn't leak

>>72707290
>this album is almost as much modern classical composition as it is indie folk.

>implying modern classical is even good

>every track is great, theres no one song thats purely pretty folk music, the most basic parts are bookended by challenging parts
said like a true indiehead

>"some crazy progressive stuff is gonna be coming out."
>crack-up
>progressive
this meme has to stop

>>72707573
>le edgy cynicism meme

good one pal

>>72707573
>>72707760
Reddit spacing anons fighting each other, kek you can't make this shit up

This would be fucking amazing... if it had come out like 15 years ago.

>>72707760
>negative criticism
>cynical

good one pal

>>72707788
I've been browsing this place for like 7 years, I wasn't aware ive been spacing things wrong.

DUDE MYKONOS

>>72707839
You didn't offer any criticism. Whining about Reddit is not a valid musical critique.

>>72707835
this

>>72707835
>>72708040
Fucking how? What has happened in the interim 15 years that makes this less notable?

Unless you can give me an example of an acoustic texture based album like this one that's based more on dynamics than melody (which is a huge shift from their previous work) then I'm really not understanding the attempts to downplay this.

>>72708007
That was one of three of my criticisms and it was not in reference to Reddit but rather the subculture that exists on a certain subreddit and which exists as the primary culture of "indie" music in general. Also, yes it is valid; it is just indirect. My point being that it is a very indiehead thing to say any moment of Crack-Up has "challenging parts." I also made three other criticisms to your post but I guess mentioning them wouldn't support your argument of me not offering any criticism.

>>72707860
Reddit

tourists

reply

like

this

>>72708125

>What has happened in the interim 15 years that makes this less notable?

about a billion indie rock records were released, many of which were at similar or equal or higher quality to this

ex: Arcade Fire's Funeral, Sufjan's Illinois, Joanna Newsom's Ys

>>72708125
>What has happened in the interim 15 years that makes this less notable?
Folk merged with pop to become an unfortunate scatalogical clusterfuck and no one stopped it.

>>72708136
I didn't make the original post, but literally all you said was that you don't like modern classical, that calling the album challenging means you browse reddit, and that calling it progressive is a meme. Those aren't criticisms.
>>72708184
None of those albums sound in any way similar to this one.

>>72708242

>None of those albums sound in any way similar to this one.

they kinda do. this Fleet Foxes album sounds pleasant but it certainly doesn't do anything innovative.

>>72708226
What does that have to do with this album? This basically has none of the characteristics of the indie folk trends of the past 15 other than being primarily acoustic based.

>>72708242
>Those aren't criticisms.
They literally are.

Also, nice job of straw manning my points.

>>72708279
>What does that have to do with this album?
Do I need to change your diaper for you while we're at it?

This new direction could have been progressive but it's too little, too late.

>>72708321

>implying any rock album can be progressive now

all the ground has been covered already. there hasn't been a truly innovative rock album since the early 90s

>>72708277
This album doesn't even sound pleasant, they've for the most abandoned the focus on melody from their previous albums and are focusing almost exclusively on texture and dynamics. If that isn't innovative within the genre then I don't know what is.
>>72708321
No one else in the genre has done this yet. Ergo its progressive, there isn't a fucking timer on this shit.

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>>72708363

>focusing almost exclusively on texture and dynamics. If that isn't innovative within the genre then I don't know what is.
>texture and dynamics

hmmm now what album from nearly 30 years ago does that make me think of

>>72708398
YEAH I SURE LOVED WHEN ACCLAIMED INDIE FOLK BAND MY BLOODY VALENTINE DECIDED TO TAKE A PRIMARILY ACOUSTIC APPROACH TO DEVELOPING SONGS BASED ON TEXTURE AND DYNAMICS RATHER THAN THE USUAL METHOD OF USING HEAVILY LAYERED GUITAR EFFECTS

GOOD ONE CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE

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>>72708469

>TAKE A PRIMARILY ACOUSTIC APPROACH TO DEVELOPING SONGS BASED ON TEXTURE AND DYNAMICS

ohhhhhh, you mean THIS?

>>72708184
>he thinks if he lists multiple artists that, are hardly similar, they will combine into one answer to btfo

>>72708598
>american primitive guitar
>texture

Robin has mentioned Fahey as an influence before, but you're out of your mind if you think an album about gradual changes in solo acoustic performances over long expanses of time is accomplishing the same thing as the shorter dynamic shifts and heavily layered sounds that Crack-Up seems to be working with.

Like jesus, do y'all approach all music by describing it in such wide swaths without actually paying mind to the details? This is infuriating.

>>72706813
Definitely gonna get BNM from p4k, Fantano will give it a 9

>>72709114
blergh

>>72708398
>music is only good if it is truly original and innovative, why listen to anything that borrows from anything else. Gregorian chant only, desu

>>72709465
He wasn't talking about it being good, just progressive

>>72709570
Understood, but who cares if something is progressive if it's good? Progressiveness shouldn't matter

>>72708160
caring about spacing or browsing reddit is reddit tier

WHO STOOOLE THE LIIIGHT FROM YOU

I can't get over how pretentious (and annoying) the dynamic shifts in the opener are. In fact, the whole record is splotched with annoyances. The desperate attempts for the songs to sound experimental and/or disjointed is too overt. Also, that jazz sample was fucking stupid.

>>72709748
Imagine being too pleb to enjoy Fleet Foxes.

There's hardly anything experimental going on just a few pretty well utilized deviations from standard song structure along with some samples here an there.

Geez I'm gonna love the shitstorm from all sides this album creates. Bravo Robin.

>>72709748
I too prefer all my music at one volume and all concentrated in the mids

>>72709920
>someone dislikes what I love
>pleb
>>>/tv/

>>72709958
>straw man

>>72709974
m8ey you're calling pretty standard creative choices "pretentious." that's like the definition of plen.

Also, I'm pretty sure /tv/ originally took the whole pleb/patrician habit from /mu/ back in the day.

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>>72707983

>>72710026
Did you even read my post? In what fucking way is putting an Ethiopian jazz sample at the end of On Another Ocean a good fucking idea? Switching between hushed vocals and loud vocals is also pretentious.

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>>72710226
>Switching between hushed vocals and loud vocals is also pretentious.

>>72710302
Robin pulled it off pretty on Third of May. However, it's egregiously done on the opening track.

>>72710344
It's obviously intended to be jarring on the opening track. That doesn't mean it's "pretentious". I'd need to look at the lyrics more, but it almost creates a conversational, call and response feeling of sorts.

>>72709748
>In fact, the whole record is splotched with annoyances
elaborate

>>72709748
jazz sample is a highlight of the album, song starts off with a simple piano sample, the track gradually becomes moodier and more dramatic over its 4 minutes only to climax and be immediately undercut by a beautifully simple and evocative bit, sampled from a song literally called nostalgia. the lyrics just before are "too young" and the track following cuts right back into drama and harmony. use your ears, and brain

>>72710512
I still think it is pretentious.

>but it almost creates a conversational, call and response feeling of sorts.
Well I read somewhere that Robin said the opening is intentionally supposed to sound depressing so the listener thinks they are going to be hearing a depressing record only to be surprised when it picks up at the 1-minute mark and is more bright and happy sounding. I believe the returns to hushed vocals and subsequent quick returns to louder instrumentation is meant to evoke the feeling of getting out of a depression/breakdown, during which you struggle and start back from the low point where you started only to progress again. The 4-minute mark is the climax of that low point but the 4:36 mark is the start of the first brief resolution of problems. The closer track is the ultimate resolution, which Robin described in his interview with Zane Lowe.

All that being said, I like a lot of the ideas and sound passages but I'm still not sure about these songs overall.

>>72710639
>jazz sample is a highlight of the album, song starts off with a simple piano sample, the track gradually becomes moodier and more dramatic over its 4 minutes only to climax and be immediately undercut by a beautifully simple and evocative bit, sampled from a song literally called nostalgia. the lyrics just before are "too young" and the track following cuts right back into drama and harmony.
So your explanation is that it fits the album's theme? Who gives a fuck? That's not my fucking point. It does not sound good in the song ffs.

>use your ears, and brain
If you're going to be a condescending cunt then you can fuck off.

>>72710226
Anything that doesn't follow verse/chorus/verse song structure is pretentious if you think about it.

>>72711031
Not really. What I am saying is not that the practice in general is pretentious but the product in this example comes off pretentious.

fleet foxes never gives perfectly immediate gratification. they just sound "nice" on first listen but once they grow on you, holy shit. that's you you realize how special they are. I expect the same to happen for this album on hearing the tracks for 3 or so times. so far, on track 5, it is definitely delivering

>>72709615
t. reddit tourist

>>72711430
t. reddit vacationer

ON ANOTHER OCEAN

so fucking good, guys. so fucking good.

>>72711415
>opinions printed fresh off the Indieheads Press

>>72711695
You must be the coolest kid in your AP World History class.

>>72711804
No, I never took that. I took APUSH and AP Euro though.

Your post still reeks of indiehead diction

So is the album actually good?

>>72711895
If you are a prententious indiehead who is spoonfed the music you listen to then yes, you will love it. If you have a shred of dignity as a human being then no, you will not believe it is good.

>>72711952
embarrassing post

>>72711895
It's very good, a pretty drastic change compositionally and in overall effect despite retaining the basic essence of their sound. It may seem immediately a bit disjointed but after a few listens it really all begins to come together.
>>72711868
>>72711952
It sounds like you secretly have a a crush on indieheads and are doing the classic playground move of feigning disinterest or resentment. you should ask them out.

>>72712080
embarrassing post

>>72712138
>le sleuth

>>72712411
it's spelled "sloth" dumbass

sent ;?)

just finished the intro track. this is something else. these transitions got me shook

>>72712443
>being this stupid

>>72711162
weird i got hype. not really considering robin's ego when listening to this

>>72712443
holy shit you are such a black

>>72711868
He isn't me, but I don't even know what indiehead is. I'm just me, mate.

>>72712654
>>72712839
at least I actually know the seven deadly sins you dumbos

>>72712956
sleuth is a word you glaringly dumb idiot

>>72713116
yeah and so is "gleuten" but that's not how it's written in the bible.

>>72713256
it took you 15 minutes to come up with that? your worthless overweight ass is going to die alone when you have a heart attack part-way through a marathon wank session some day, and after someone writes an obituary about your greasy cum carcass nobody will ever think about you again

>>72712380
No, he was actually right. That shit made me cringe.

>>72701984
Sure, but it would require chopping out frequencies that may be audible, leading to a worse sounding leak.

>>72704050
Didn't think the difference was that small but it's audible.