Fa/gg/ot - Guitarfa/gg/ and Bassfa/gg/ General

First for Carly

>>72314300
This is worse than roman's cringeworthy op

The
>is guitar really dead
Yes

OP was less autistic.

>>72314300
>"finally a thread with nothing wrong with i-"
>fa/gg/ot
fuck

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Redpill me on short scale guitars, /gg/.

Yay or nay?

redpill me on sitting for 30 consecutive hours focusing on guitar sounds

>>72314494
Are you a manlet bitch? Then get a regular 25.5 inch guitar

how do i giutar

>>72314300
Awe, I missed my chance

I was going to call it fu/gg/: talentless hack edition and the pic was going to be samuel

>>72314494
i have one and it's nice and lightweight, and vibrations feel nice.
Wiring was garbage though (squier)

>>72314470
It's a nice looking guitar and everything but that headstock makes me want to punch you in the throat.

The unwired pickup too.

>>72314510
watch k-on

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>>72314503
Explain your rude statement without hostility and maybe I'll take you seriously.

>>72314510
>dig 6ft hole
>pay crackhead
>lay down in hole
>crackhead fills in hole
rappers are crackheads because they're black

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>>72314466

>>72314560
Are you though?
If you're not some manlet pussy with tiny little hands then there is no reason not to get a guitar with a 25.5 inch scale.
25.5 might even be too small actually

I remember Buckethead's signature Gibson had like a 27 or 28 inch scale. It's a real size guitar for real men.

>>72314494
Do you wear a size 8 shoe and fit size small gloves? Are you less than 5' 6"? Do you wear a dress?

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So I wanna buy this as a project guitar but it's used and I don't live in the safest place. How do I make sure I don't get mugged by the guy that's selling it?

>Step one: Don't be a third worlder
Not possible right now.

>>72314551
That's the best looking pointy headstock design I've ever seen. Has a nice aggressive character to it plus no-name guitars are always cool looking.

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>>72314581

>>72314470
what the fuck am i even looking at? this is disgusting

>alan holdsworth de dead
>better listen to his music then
>unlistenable shitty fusion wankery

k, now what

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>>72314513
You can have the next one, bruh.

I'll allow it.

>>72314618
every time you ask this, everyone says no

but you keep fucking asking

are you waiting for everyone to say you should buy that piece of plywood shit?

>>72314667
Literally the same for me.
I had already tried to give him loads of chances, I just couldn't get into the music at all. It's totally unlistenable. It's just masturbatory jazz.

I believe people that he was influential and all, but I'm listening to his shitty music to find out why.

>>72314618
Just buy parts on ebay. You can find lots of cool bodies and necks and make any kind of guitar you can imagine. Just be mindful that anything you build has to have either a 24 3/4 or 25 1/2 scale length when its finished or the whole thing will be junk.

Very overlooked consideration am9ng newbie builders

Considering selling my Ibanez RG Iron Label and American Special Telecaster and using the money to get a Pro Series Jackson.

What does /gg/ know about Jacksons? No memes please, this is a serious post that calls for serious replies.

>>72314618
I wasn't exaggerating last night when I said it was dogshit. Seriously one of the worst guitars I've ever owned. The headstock is really small and weird, the neck profile is awful, that licensed floyd is awful, the emg hzs suck, the knobs for the tuning machone broke off on mine, i had to drill out the holes for the strap button and put a dowel in them. And this was mostly in less than 2 years of use. The inlays are super lame.

Seriously, there are so many better slabs out there to use as a project. You'll never be able tonfind a replacement neck, you'll either have to make one or find a luthier to make one. ESP wouldn't even tell me if a neck from an old eclipse might fit.

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>>72314687
>Let's complain about people talking about guitars
>Those guys derailing the thread and posting few words each time so it gets archived faster? Nah those guys are cool, I hang out with them

>>72314704
Well if you can find a Floyd-Routed LP guitar kit online, I'll do it.

>>72314737
I don't care about the hardware, all of it would be getting replaced. I kinda like the headstock though, and I like the spider inlays too, I wouldn't replace the neck.

Besides I wouldn't be able to get a 603 with a neck through instead because those are out of production. I just know if I don't get it I'll regret it later, plus it's only $135 so who gives a shit.

I'm just worried about meeting the guy, you never know with mexicunts.

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>>72314741
Motherfucker, I warned you and you didn't listen.

I'll kill your next thread where you don't link to the old thread too.

FU/gg/IN WATCH AND SEE IF I DON'T

can /gg/ even play this?

https://youtu.be/D0praZd_-m0?t=4m36s

>>72314860
>jew music

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>>72314815
If you want to waste $135 on it go ahead, but you can buy a much nicer neck and body for that much. And unless you're within 3 or 4 feet of the inlays they look like crickets, not spiders. You'll regret it more if you buy it. But, it's your money.

>>72314901
what

>>72314931
Hell if I was in America I would offer some dollarydoos for yours instead.

Post some pics of the broken tuners?

is there anything better than amplitube 4?
i didn't think so

>>72314860
dude is dressed like a faggot

>>72314931
Still wondering why you shit so much on it. Maybe you got a factory defective one, why didn't you ask ESP to replace it?
Found this on YT, you can tell he replaced the Floyd for an original one but the pickups are the same stock shit and it doesn't sound terrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7PtwCD0HWs

If the guy is willing to replace all hardware maybe it would be a well spent $135

>>72314983
They're in a toolbox in the garage(was using a caliper to measure to find replacements), i can look tomorrow and post it. It barely looks like a les paul in real life. Upper fret access is horrible. I got one from the store, they set it up. When I came back they showed me the high e couldn't be intonated because the saddle was as far forward as it could go. They had to order me a new one. Got it around 2007.

Honestly, if you just want a les paul with a floyd why not get an FRX
https://youtu.be/hVjMrFbNhGg
You going to wanr to shell out some cash for an official floyd anyways with the 203.

>>72314860
What is this? This is literally just noise. There is nothing musical or redeemable about this

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>>72315028

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how can long scales even compete

>>72315368
by sounding better

>>72315237
shit bait

>>72315237
it's jew music

>>72315247
>rattly shelf

>>72315382
>muh subjective opinion
nah

>>72315368
>how can long scales even compete
>posts a Jazzmaster

>>72315228
I replaced my floyd with an original as well, and the store replaced the first one I got cause it was defective. The emgs made it about 4 months before I started swapping in different pickups from my collection.

In that video it sounds mediocre but passable, but he's also not playing chords, or playing clean, or doing anything besides playing single note lines with dirt and reverb. It really just sounds like the amp sim he's using.

It was alright for the first month or so, and things started to fail. First thing was the inside of the screws for the locking nut, they started to round off. I was using the factory provided allen wrench and never used anything but. Ended up needing to buy new screws and take the old ones out with pliers.

>>72315368
>shortscales.png
>jazzmaster
>not a short scale guitar

moran

>>72315232
>they showed me the high e couldn't be intonated because the saddle was as far forward as it could go
Well that's why I don't buy guitars with Licensed Floyds new, I bet that fucking shit was like $650 when it came out, wasn't it? But for 1/5th of the price it just doesn't look like a bad deal to me, the damage it has is easily fixed, I searched the whole site for a better candidate for my next project and nothing else looks interesting.

And hell no, FRX is like $250, $300+ with shipping to beanerland, that's way more than I'm willing to pay for a bridge. I've owned Original and 1000 Series Floyds and they're good but I've also never had any problems with FR Specials and they're like $90.
New pickups, bridge, tuners, paint and all it ends up at like $450 which is still cheaper than the original price.

I'll be honest, you probably won't convince me not to get it, I just know I can polish this turd.


>>72315228
Pretty nice desu. I would definitely change the pickups though.

>>72315415
explain yourself

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....aaaaaaaaaaaand archived >>72307047!


Nite nite, shitba/gg/s.

>>72315485
it just fucking is

>>72315483
$450. Your in for world of hurt, but enjoy it.

>>72315531
The real question here is, is there anything wrong with the wood itself? If not, it can be fixed or replaced.

>>72315509
name one jew.

>>72315565
Its soft. The strap buttons pulled out after a year of gigging. Mime has a huge gouge from bumping against a road case, after 2 pickup changes I had to put wood filler in the holes for the pickup rings because they wouldn't grip. each ply is under a half inch, body os probably 9 ply. The screws for the trem claw never had an issue after many adjustments though.

Actually, thinking back I remember really liking the control placement.

>>72315626
Taylor Swift

>>72315658
>The screws for the trem claw never had an issue after many adjustments though
Good because that's one of the most important things and it would be kinda hard to fix. I don't think I would be abusing the whole thing too much though, I'm just a bedroom warrior.

>Actually, thinking back I remember really liking the control placement
Already starting to change your mind? lol
By the way, you said you changed the pickups, what did you install before giving up on it? And why is it missing the neck pickup now?

>/gg/ shits on bass players
>i literally just came home from a bar where i witnessed a 3 piece band with no bassist

this is why guitar music is dead

>>72316424
>he can't into Floor

>>72316957
Can somebody give me a summary of who this Roman guy is and tell me why people bully him so much?

I wanna be a bully too.

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So I built this lap steel from the leftover guts of a 1960s Japanese import. Thoughts on the tone?

https://clyp.it/y5mpcyrl

I know the intonation sucks fat ass, but I've been playing it for like two weeks. (So many blisters)

>>72314300
How do I learn how to make basslines as opposed to just learning existing basslines? Like, how I should interact with the drummer rhythm wise and what notes I should play (root and fifth, how/when I can play something else, etc.)

>>72318164
I mean, learning existing basslines is a good way to teach yourself how to create new ones, since you'll want to get comfortable playing several different kinds of music in order to compose the appropriate basslines within those mediums. Strong chord tones like the root, fifth, third, and seventh are generally played on the downbeat while sixths, ninths, and passing tones are played on the upbeat. The best time to move from one musical idea to the next is when everyone else does, usually when the chord changes. You'll see how this works by learning popular basslines and listening to how those parts work within the larger musical context of a given piece.

>>72317650
>lap steel
>blisters

you know you're not meant to hold down chords on the neck right?

>>72318164
I don't think there's any foolproof method, just a lot of different approaches and your own intuition. Personally, I like to first try "conversing" with the various instruments for a starting point. I think about how the other melodies or rhythms could either be filled in (added to) or simplified (subtracted from). I play a lot of instruments so this approach helps me focus in on how the rest of the music is being pushed and pulled by my bassline. When I do this I pretty much try to ignore the vocals at first, then adjust to them last. This is good for noisier or busier music where you have a lot of freedom.

Another approach is to get something you like rhythmically with just roots and 5ths and 3rds, strictly following the chords, and start adding a bunch of passing notes. Then listen for what notes have a really harmonic sound to them, and try working your bassline around those notes, possibly by adding some more of them, putting them on the first beat, or trying to put them were there is some space.

When all else fails, roots and fifths following the kick drum, and slides up an octave for fills.

These aren't very sophisticated methods, but hey, my theory is a bit weak. I try.

>>72319547
bump

>>72320033
third hourly bump

What are some essential techniques that I need to be able to put good solos together? I know how to do bends and pulls offs and hammers ons.Is there any other really important techniques or should I just work on perfecting the ones I listed?

Bass guitars are guitars too

>>72320778
legato runs
fast alternate picking
sweeping and tapping if you want to wank

good morning /gg/

https://youtu.be/dXh-VU_3A-s

>>72320778
vibrato. vibratos are important

>>72320789
No, they really aren't. The Precision bass and the electric basses before it were intended to replace the big standup double basses used by early rock and roll bands. Leo added frets so it could be played with greater precision. Hence the name.

>>72318762
Ha, ha.

No, I've been plucking with my bare fingers - also something you don't really do with a steel, but I haven't mastered using finger picks yet.

>>72320806
good review
8/10

would buy

>>72320806
Top review 10/10

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>>72320806
http://sendvid.com/smpbwha3

>>72320806
Cool review, would buy Samuel signature "lil' favela nigger" guitar amp

Is it more adequate to say
Major key = more open sounding and emotional
Minor key = more closed sounding and tense
?

That "major = happy" "minor = sad" meme seem to apply more to the chords itself
like if you take a minor key, say Am, and play all the chords major
AM BM CM DM EM FM GM
it would sound happy anyway

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https://clyp.it/n3cbkcck

The meme guitar is back. r8 my newest cover

>>72321397
just from looking at your retarded guitar, I know how shiity your retarded music is going to sound

>>72321397
>a7x guitar
>cover is not a a7x song
is that a guitar or a meme btw

>>72321402
What kind of guitar is not retarded according to /gg/?

>Hurr SSS strat

>>72321498
>prs
no
>gibsons
le headstock le dadrock meme
>floyd superstrats
le mememachine
>teles
le ugly meme

would this sound better with a les paul or with a strat. and which pickups combination

https://clyp.it/zg55o50o

>>72314741
>spam the same shit every thread
>a-at least I'm not derailing
yes you fucking are you spastic

>>72321528
Les paul with Lace Dually Red-Red in bridge, fender noiseless in the middle and Dimarzio Evo in neck, using middle position of Gibson SG custom 3-pickup wiring

>>72321528
>ballad
>2017
>ballad

>>72321544
>spastic

not seen that used as an insult since I used to post on b3ta back in the day

>>72321827
well this ballad seems to have a few listeners in 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwmAB8Wx6DY

>>72322057
and it's Brazilian wino day here at /gg/

>>72322124
what is a wino day

>>72321827
You've obviously never heard the ballad of Marcus velafi

>>72322124
that jewish isnt brazillian hes from the us

1:52 for a jewish spending money

https://youtu.be/Su4ytfPxGmw

>>72320789
>>72320890
They are clearly electric guitars, they were just designed to fulfill the role that upright basses had up to that point. It's not like Leo Fender designed an electric upright bass and ended up putting frets on it, he clearly designed an electric guitar (body shape, neck, pickups, frets, everything about it) that was tuned like an upright bass.

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The guy agreed to do $120 for this.
How do I make sure I'm not gonna get mugged after giving him the money or that he won't stab me?

Americans need not apply, you can be with money or your phone out in public in the US and pretty much nothing's gonna happen.

>>72322730
meet him in front of a police office

>>72322730
fuck me, glad I don't live in the third world

>>72322730
not only have you posted in the past 2 or so /gg/ with a question about that paltry cardboard guitar, you've now posted the same question TWICE in one thread

please stop we don't have any advice regarding your fucking mugging problems let alone it not being instrument related

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Thinking about selling my sr1600 (pic related) for a fender aerodyne jazz.

Thoughts?

>>72314466
>implying stringed lumps of wood were ever alive to begin with

>>72322944
>Police office
>In Mexico
Never seen such a thing here. You call them and they arrive 45 minutes later.

>>72322965
Did I upset you, big guy?

>>72323001
a little yeah, i actually don't have much problem with the subject matter but why ask the same question multiple times?

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>>72322730
Bring a gun with you, or friend with a gun.

I always carry a gun if I am around mexicans.

>>72323105
>I always carry a gun if I am around mexicans
Then I would have to carry a gun at all times. Not to mention that's illegal here. There is no such thing as "Shoot in self defense"; you shoot, you get legally fucked.

Also fuck off, you memericans get the better beaners there are. The shitty ones always stay here.

>>72323105
And why would you ever put single coils in a 7 string

>>72323247
leave /gg/ and go build my fender

>>72323290
Sorry I don't build literal shit.

>>72323322
>fenders made in my own country are shit

>>72323338
Anything Mexico related is shit. Why would I ever defend it? I like this place as much as you do.

Though more specifically I just don't like Fender.

>>72314300
hey guys, any suggestions on an acoustic guitar? I don't need anything fuckin awesome anything under $200 is what i'm shooting for.

just something to dick around on when I'm at home and guitarcenter is having some deals

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Guitar-A-Thon.gc?N=18153

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>try out guitars
>find one I like
>wait for payday
>go to buy it
>it's been sold
>order one
>call after a week
>they say it'll take a month for it to arrive
>get told to wait until mid-April
>the fifteenth of April was almost a week ago and I still haven't gotten a call
RRRRREEEEEEEEE

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Does anyone else love seeing their instruments decay over time?
My acoustic is loaded with picking marks right by the neck where I play and you can tell which frets I use the most by which has the most wear and tear
I like how it makes my style of playing visible

>>72323563
Those are all kind of shitty desu, but I would get this one. At least the bigger body will make it louder than the others

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone/EJ-200-Artist-Acoustic-Guitar.gc

>>72323677
i dont have such things cause im a careful fag and its not a good thing
only marks i have is little dents of beating the guitar at edges of bed and screwdrivers

>>72323677
No I hate it, rusted saddles on electrics become useless, nicks in the neck make it feel like shit etc.. I sanded down the neck on my telecaster because the small dents in it were annoying as fuck.

>>72323761

>telling people how to own their own objects

>>72323750
yeah, i figured it was a "you get what you pay for" thing. i'll check out that model, is there a difference between the natural and sunburst besides price? i'd rather have the natural one anway idk why i'm not too fond of that sunburst one.

>>72323781
im not doing that im doing the opposite i said i wish i could play freely like that

>>72323677
Yep. That's why I'll never buy a 'roadworn' instrument, I'd rather (unintentionally) do that to my instrument myself over the years.
As long as the instrument remains playable, or you're never planning to resell it of course.

>>72323797
No difference but it looks like it's more expensive. This one is a small body but it claims to be all solid woods, might sound pretty good.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Recording-King/RP-10-0-Style-Acoustic-Guitar.gc

>>72323247
>Then I would have to carry a gun at all times.

So do I. Lel. I wouldnt call #1 in crime growth nationally getting the better beaners though. If I sold ammo on the west side, Id be a billionaire overnight.

>>72322988
Seems like a fair trade, they're both solid and versatile basses, it mostly comes down to active vs passive, which is personal preference.

>>72323269
>And why would you ever put single coils in a 7 string


I'll cut to the chase and just say Im a big guy 4 u.

>>72322988
I hope you can find one as good looking as that bass

>>72323867
>I wouldnt call #1 in crime growth nationally getting the better beaners though
Now you know just how bad things are over here.

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Daily reminder that Peter Green is the best guitarist ever

>>72323950
he is good but hes no ace frehley

>>72323950
is this era what peter green is know for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssHffZNfPuA

who here enjoy watching noodling vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn_fOhG4-x8

I call this piece "Samuel's Bane (AKA what Samuel is shit at)"
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0SGJRayzo9O

>>72324030
do you use that sound your sister makes when breaking things as a kickdrum?

>>72323984
yes although he actually didn't write that song

this is Peter Green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abg4CQgCyD0 (BB King Cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxgY9eEFiYM (BB King Cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HOjpWfJbpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoasUjXBkm8

>>72324086
That's some redneck outside working with a hammer. Don't get mad Sammy, not everybody makes it

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>>72323873
I really like the sr1600. And I still have the option of not going active with it. But I played the aerodyne once, and fuck it sounds great. Especially with my Fender Rumble v3 500.

>>72323903
Haha, thanks. Yeah its a total beauty. But then again, pic related is the aerodyne. Aesthetics out my ass. I feel like look wise it's a rolls royce vs a fancy sports car.

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I want this guitar so bad, I think I'm going to rejoin the workforce.

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>buying a 7-9 string guitar only to play 2-string powerchords

>>72324391
>not buying a 2 string guitar for djent

>>72323001
>Did I upset you, big guy?

I imagine his fury will die down quickly when he realizes he can go outside his house without getting beheaded by drug gangs

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>>72324379

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>tfw you just spent $350 to sound like shit.

Who else has gear coming in the mail?

>>72324555
Jesus christ what is this

>>72324467
>Le cartel meme
Only the top half of this shithole is like that and I'm glad I don't live there.

Won't deny it's still dangerous to walk outside past 6 here though, but they don't actually kill you, they just beat you up and take your stuff.

>>72324659
haha

you live in a shithole country

>>72324659
>tfw I'm in Argentina and I can walk outside at any time and there's a 99.99% chance I won't get mugged at all
Feels good being first world

>>72324679
haha

tell me something I don't know

Bought an ehx looper from a shop the other day.
Got it home, popped a 9v in and plugged in the input and output. The pedal didn't light up and there was no signal to the amp.
Plugged in a power supply and I got signal through to the amp with some electrical humming, but no response or lights from the pedal.

Am I pants on head retarded and missing something? Or is it safe to say the thing is busted?

>>72324715
>Argentina
>first world

Pick only one

>>72324715
iktf
>tfw i live in brazil and walk home from traps houses at 2am and never got stolen

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>>72324715
How can you enjoy your "first world country" if that thing in front of your face blocks your view all the time?

>>72324737
How about you suck my fat white cock you fucking faggot

>>72324732
You got conned. Happens to betas all the time

>>72324715
alo hermano buenos aires speak portunhol

>>72324732
did you plug into the input jack or the output jack?

>>72324577
crazy as shit noise pedal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMAO1tCHVTU

>>72324770
Sick burn?

>>72324830
Both. Most battery powered pedals won't operate until a jack is in both input and output

>>72324555
Lol what the fuck. This thing sounds horrendous. I like noise sometimes but this takes all the creativity out of it.

>>72325019
I mean did you plug your guitar into the input jack or the output jack?

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>>72325012

>>72324555
>that edgy unreadable font
What's the point?

>>72325063
>this takes all the creativity out of it.

....how?

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>>72324555

>>72325012
Shit, this is what happens when uncool nerds and weaboos think they can play rock music

>>72325111
I'm guessing you get used to it quickly, with my synths I don't even need to look at the labels anymore,

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>>72325168
>implying rock is cool

>>72325130
Okay, I'm not a huge fan of this kind of thing so I am biased but I'll give you my best shot. You can get a ton of the sounds I've seen in the 2 demos I've watched by using other techniques or pedals. Mixing and matching while going crazy on your guitar is why noise rock or noise whatever is fucking fun. Watching some guy lean down to tweak the knobs on this one pedal would be less fun. That is assuming you rely on it that way.

Granted! This does simplify things if you only need noise every now and then. It is a convenience. but it would be more fun to make a crazy noise using a pedal and some technique or funky note choice then sample it, play over that, throw it in reverse. Shoot some audience member in the face, sample that, and on and on.

That's my take.

>>72325183
It used to be before these fucking losers started playing it

>>72321266
But the chords in a minor key are not all major so what do you mean?

If you just play a bunch of major chords it might sound major but it might just sound out of key.

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>>72323628
>order guitar neck online
>2 weeks later it still hasn't shipped out
>ask whats taking so long
>"we'll let you know as soon as it ships"
>request to cancel
>no reply

who /improv/ here

http://picosong.com/i8RM/

my tube amp got mute what do

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>>72325012
You'd love my modular synth.

>>72325355
install gentoo

>>72325355
Explain your issue.

Check your tubes out. Power it up and watch what is going on. Take off the pabel and look.

>>72325355
Does the power light come on? Do the tube heaters come on (do they glow red) ?

>>72325355
shit in your hands and rub it on your chest

>>72325221
Yeah noise rock is an entirely different thing, most of the energy in that music comes from the intensity of the actual guitar playing. This is more of a knob twiddling pedal, giving you lots of timbral options. You can set it and forget it but the best use is to constantly tweak it. Merzbow has one in his rig, just another textural tool really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR_8gpJCT4I

>>72325355
its smelling a bit like burnt plastic

>>72325371
die

>>72325383
was playing and it got mute suddenly. changed the speaker to the 4ohm output but nothing happened

all tubes are lightening up the same

i'm taking the tubes off and putting them back on to see if it works

>>72325393
yes the power light and the tube are still glowing

No power, typically the transformer.

Tubes come on but low volume, possible tube issue. Tap on the tubes with a pencil. Bad one should make a sound.

>>72325370
fuck that's awesome man. I've always wanted to get into modular gear but it's so expensive. How much do you think everything there cost you?

>>72325421
>yes the power light and the tube are still glowing

check the HT fuse, if it's blown then replace it. if it keeps blowing then your amp's bias is set wrong and the tubes are drawing too much current.

insufficient negative bias = increased anode current = blown HT fuse

>>72325428
>Tap on the tubes with a pencil
are you baiting me to break the filament

>>72325446
took the fuse off, how to tell if its blown

>>72325412
Yeah if you use it like that then I guess I could understand. Not my thing at all, in any capacity, or in any universe though.

Sounds like you know what you want so keep it up.

>>72325428
>ill-informed bullshit.

Power but no sound is almost always the HT fuse. Tapping a good tube or a bad tube makes exactly the same sound, you only tap tubes when the amp is working and you want to test for a tube going microphonic.

>>72325474
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuse_%28electrical%29

>>72325438
I don't even like to add up how much I've spent on the modular but it's a fuck of a lot. It's getting cheaper for me now because I'm building modules from DIY kits, the whole top rack (left rack in the pic because Windows phone doesn't rotate properly) is stuff I've built.

>>72325474
>took the fuse off, how to tell if its blown
If it's not blown then you'll see a wire inside it going from one end to the other. If there's any scorch marks or the wire is broken then it needs replacing.

>>72325341
b-bump

>>72325532
You did take out the HT fuse and not the mains fuse didn't you?

>>72325341
You can't fool me Samuel

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did i broke the power tube socket trying to put the tube back?

>>72325532
so the fuse is not blown

>>72325602
that didnt quote me a-ha

>>72325618
>did i broke the power tube socket trying to put the tube back?

Is that the output tube's center pin stuck in the socket? Please tell me it isn't. Please tell me you've not done that. If you've done that then you've really deeply fucked it over.

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>>72325618
ah thats not the amp's socket heheh

whats a decent overdrive/big muff pedal I could use mainly with my guitar, but also with my bass too?

>>72325669
yes its the power tube center pin stuck in the socket

>>72325710
ZVEX Wooly Mammoth (they make clones for like $40)

>>72325712
Right then. You need a new tube in there.

DO NOT TRY TO PUT THE OLD TUBE IN, YOU COULD ENTIRELY FUCK YOUR AMP FOREVER IF YOU GET IT MISALIGNED. /caps

Pull the pin out of the socket with INSULATED pliers. Get new tube(s). Learn how to put tubes in gently but firmly, the right way round.

Just to explain the bit about not putting that tube back in, it's possible you've damaged the pin by inserting the tube the wrong way so the locating pin has misaligned. That could result in incorrect connections to the high tension supply. Get a replacement tube, learn to put it in without being a ham-fisted twat.

>>72325795
Also, learn to fully explain the nature of the problem when asking for help. Your amp hasn't "gone mute", you've rammed a tube in the wrong way and possibly fucked it over.

>>72325790
>ZVEX Wooly Mammot
that sounds great, has a nice punch and I like that for my RIC

thanks for the tip

>>72325822
And, AND ... protip for removing tubes that you're going to put back in. Get a Sharpie, draw a line down the tube base onto the chassis. Use masking tape if you don't want to mark the chassis. Then when you replace the tube, line up the Sharpie lines.

>>72325846
yeah man it's a good pedal. Here's the clone I was talking about if you don't want to spend ZVEX money, they sound pretty much identical

https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-Little-Mammoth-Effects-Effector/dp/B015W69SM2

>>72325822
yes the amp gone mute thats what happened. i played it for 4 years and this never happened before, never had to open it.
i took the tube off -now- to see if it would make it work

im trying to take the pin off but its breaking to pieces and not actually pulling off

>>72325860
why is that for. the tubes have locating pin

>>72325882
>https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-Little-Mammoth-Effects-Effector/dp/B015W69SM2

neat
I'm watching some video reviews atm, that's exactly the same sound I want

I'm not a newbie but I never actually had a pedal, just a wah: I usually use effects with Ableton while recording or a RE-201 for reverb/echo/delay

cheers for the help mate

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the pin fell further

will i damage that contact metal in there if i touch it with the plier

>>72325914
>why is that for. the tubes have locating pin

>why does a complicated electronic device have to have eight pins connected to the correct fucking holes

Because tube amps use about 500 Volts for the anodes and 6.3 Volts for the heaters. And if you ram the tube in any way it's possible you'll connect 500V to the heaters. And you may just connect the other side of the heater to ground, in which case you're lucky if you don't get a loud bang and a cloud of smoke from the amp.

If you're asking questions like this and fucking your amp so badly then you are clearly entirely fucking incompetent. Take your amp to a repair man and tell him what a fucking retard you've been. And believe me, he will fucking laugh in your face when you show him how badly you just fucked your amp over.

>>72325985
Stop now. Really, stop.

A tube amp can store around 500 Volts in the filter capacitors even when it's switched off. You can get a lethal shock from an amp that's been powered down for an hour.

Stop what you're doing, take the amp to someone who knows amp repair and pay for your stupidity in hard fucking cash now. Otherwise you are running the risk of electrocuting yourself.

>>72325992
no. i said why i have to do the tape thing if the tubes already have a locating pin to prevent inserting them in a incorrect position, dont hate

>>72326033
this

but I thought this guy figured it out already?

>>72326036
The tape thing is a double check that the tubes are aligned properly. Because it's important to align the tubes correctly. Otherwise you risk snapping the locating pin off, inserting the tube incorrectly and fucking your amp over. Like you just did. You fucking idiot.

Now stop fucking around with things you don't understand and find a repair guy.

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>>72326033
its not like i'm opening the transformer

>>72326067
You'd be safer opening the transformer than fucking around in the tube sockets. The PSU transformer works on AC, those sockets have 500V DC on them.

Do you think the electric chair worked on AC or DC?

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look what a cool. i took the head off the case to take that pin off the socket

>>72326067
no, no
of course not

I wonder where those pins connect to
it must be some place that has nothing to do with electricity and huge amount of volts

>>72326104
yeah but it doesnt store energy that could shock me with the amp unplugged like the transformer does

>>72326095
Pretty sure I already mentioned the power supply caps could still be charged to 500V, I mentioned that didn't I?

I'm done helping you fucko. Put your amp back together and call a repair guy. Because you have fucked it right over, you don't have the skills or knowledge to fix it and you run the risk of a fatal electric shock.

>>72326124
of course not but you've been fiddling around for a while
and you're still doing it

I consider that "being extremely lucky"
there's an alternate universe where you are dead right now

>>72326124
You know precisely fuck all about how electricity works. Transformers do not store charge. None at all. Power supply caps do. And that is what can discharge into you right now if you touch the wrong thing.

Fucking kill yourself, you're a waste of fucking skin.

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>>72326128
i'll just put the power tube back, thats what im going to do, the locating pin is still in as pic >>72326067 shows.

anyone here had some experience with that Ric-O-Sound thing?

I'd like to try it with my 4003, but I'm not really sure if it's worth the price
but that neck pickup sounds very low, and checking it in is literally the last thing I want to do

>>72326161
why would you even remove the head?

also, putting it back is exactly the last thing you want to do
if there's any kind of contact, you're fucked

anon warned you, I'm warning you too
you dun goofed, but now there's a serious risk of death

>>72325795
>DO NOT TRY TO PUT THE OLD TUBE IN, YOU COULD ENTIRELY FUCK YOUR AMP FOREVER IF YOU GET IT MISALIGNED.

>>72326161
>i'll just put the power tube back

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holy shit its written 400 fucking volts on that capacitor
capacitors store energy dont they

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>>72326161

>>72326225
THE TUBE STILL HAS THE LOCATION PIN IN
AND ITS NOT LIKE IT WAS TWISTED

>>72326223
cause it wasnt possible to take the piece of plastic with the head inside the case

>>72326235
is this bait now

just fucking electrocute yourself and die already

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>>72326257
lol butthurt

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>>72326235

>>72326235
Make sure to put the tube back in, these guys are full of air. You are standing in the ground so you are 'grounded'. You can't get electrocuted if you are standing on the ground. I've been a electrician for 7 years I know what I'm talking about. Also wouldn't hurt to open up the guts of the amp and clean it out, probably dusty in there messing with the connection to the tube.

>>72326308
Warm soapy water is best for that, remember to take your shoes and socks off before you start

>>72326308
using saltwater is the best for cleaning the insides, isn't it?

minerals like attract dust or something

>>72326254
>asks for help
>gets really detailed instructions and advice
>ignores it all

>>72326308
>>72326324
lol

i'm using a flipflop on the left foot though so the electricity goes by the right feet and has less chance of fucking my heart

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>Hello /gg/ I died yesterday while messing with my tubes
>You guys told me not to do it
>I fucked up putting the tube back in so I asked for help
>/gg/ said I should take it to a repairman to do it because it's "dangerous"
>I'm a hands on learner though so I decided to do it myself anyways
>I wasn't sure so I had to experience it first hand
>Man you guys were right though, caps do store electricity!


Ask me anything about the afterlife I guess.

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Roll on one

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there is a fucking piece of the location pin still. its all perfect, i will just put it in there.

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>>72326354
Good idea. Honestly I've been shocked by 700 volts before and it wasn't even that bad. It's pretty hard to kill yourself with only 400v caps.

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>>72326389

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>>72326354
>a single flipflop
>on the left foot

>flip fucking flops
>just one tho

let me, just let me grab some popcorn while you're at it, will ya?

>>72326308
>>72326391
kkkkk look, he is mad nervous

I really hope someone is capping this

for future generations

>>72326414
Not sure why. If he made a video I could easily help him but he seems to have it under control. I've been in the business for awhile and I work on amps a lot. He's got nothing to worry about if he's grounded.

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>>72326389
>Oh shit I did something retarded and everyone is making fun of me
>Better start pretending to be retarded so everyone thinks it was just a big joke.

>>72326442
im not going to make another video for you to laugh

>>72326389
there's another fucking missing pin you idiot
another fucking one other than the center you you
FUCKING BROKE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>72326462
Im not pretending to be retarded, HTAT IS THE LOCATING PIN, ITS ALL FINE, ITS THE LOCATING PIN I JUST PUT THE TUBE ALIGNED TO IT AND IT WILL BE FINE. I CANT EVEN PUT THE TUBE WRONG BECAUSE OF IT. ITS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FUCK UP

>>72326476
Just trying to help. Alien amps are really good, Brazilians make good quality stuff. I'm a big fan of kiss and ace frehley so I want you to have a nice working amp bud.

>>72326489
Lots of output tubes only use seven pins. EL34 and 6L6 in particular

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If the guy is stupid enough to fuck up and he actually dies, that's on you, /gg/. You'll have to live with it. I hope you're aware of this, even if you call me a faggot for posting this.

can't you livestream the whole thing DIYanon

because eventually you will die, and you will stop posting, abandoning this thread, leaving us with so many questions

Acoustic guitars don't have this problem

>>72326527
He won't die. It's a common myth that tube amps are dangerous. Like I said I've been working on them for years and have done a lot of risky shit. As long as he grounds himself with his flip-flop he is fine.

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>>72326494
IT IS NOT FINE

>>72321397
Intonation's off

>>72326547
but he only has one, single flippity floppy!
OH THE HUMANITY

>>72326515
yeeeeah right
does he know anything about vacuum?
because that tube clearly never asked for this

>>72326502
>>72326547
kkkkkkk

>>72326595
the flip flop is made of rubber and can isolate.
what are you? a dumb?

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>>72326595
>yeeeeah right

They do though. NC means no connection. Some manufacturers don't put a pin there. Marshall use the socket pin on the inside as an extra soldering point to mount the screen grid resistors.

>>72326746
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes-valves/140170-help-el34-8pin-7pin-conversion.html

>>72326730
>you dense motherfucker.png
>image already exists

>>72326730
>I will only touch a high voltage component when no other part of my body is in contact with anything grounded

>>72326730
I'm sure he's wearing both of them, with no other physical contact whatsoever, and that his flip flop are made with hi quality industrial isolating rubber

also, he hasn't been posting for a while, so he's dead

I don't think people should be allowed in /gg/ threads if english isn't their first language

>>72326494
>Im not pretending to be retarded

Damn right you're not pretending. You really are retarded.

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tube is in and with the protective spring thing

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found the problem. alien sent fucking ecc83s when its supposed to be 12ax7.

>>72326889
why

>>72326876
kkk

>>72326989
You stupid fucking cuntlick.

ECC83 is the European equivalent tube, it's exactly the same as a 12AX7. Same heater voltage, same amplification factor and same mutual conductance. Fucking educate yourself you dickweed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2qhAC6-5hE

>>72327030
kkkk trolled

>>72327081
Nice video

>>72327093
its playing now

>>72326225
>he doesn't put power tubes with broken keys back in

>>72326527
pretty hard for him to die, but excited for him to get lit up real good

>>72327178
I do. But I tell retards not to.

>>72327178
>excited for him to get lit up real good

I was pissed that I missed my friend trying to fix his Fender Evil Twin one time. He snapped the top off a preamp tube then tried to, get this, blu-tak the glass envelope back together.

With the amp plugged in and switched on.

Apparently he flew backwards across the room and couldn't move his arm for an hour. Would have loved to see that.

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mfw this thread

>>72327479
I hope we get back to deciding who the best guitarist is soon

>>72327492
It's obviously Sammy I mean his Ace frehley technique is on par with the man himself. Kiss could use a new lead guitarist. I work for a big record label and I'm trying to get my boss to give Sammy a record deal.

>>72327515
I heard he was makinga blues album. That's what all the kids are into these days, they can't get enough 12-bar blues with pentatonic solos over the top for half a fucking hour. Groundbreaking stuff.

amp is ded
samuel is sad

https://youtu.be/PoKO_o2Ys8w

>>72327731
Samuel isn't dead. Everyone else is sad,

>>72327755
dont be sad, if it comforts you i just took a shock plugging the camera charger
and it was with the left hand

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back to playing the zoom multifx to the 8" bass cab i guess

>>72327852
no one cares

>>72327852
clean your fucking carpet you filthy favelo scum

>>72327342
remember that one time you made up a story

How do I play like Jonny Greenwood????!??!??!?

>>72328170
shit post 1-2 hours daily

>>72328261
Thats like a 4000% increase in my shitposting

>>72328301
just put some effort in will you

>>72328360
Low effort shitposts get better responses

>>72327555
Ace Frehley is probably the most versatile guitarist. I mean guys like Joe Pass, Mark Knopfler, and EVH can all play but they don't have the technique and feel Ace has. E minor pentatonic and Barre chords are the peak of guitar playing. Sammy has a bright future.

>>72328811
It's not just E minor you know. I seen him play some crazy shit in A one time.

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This bass solo kicks ass.

https://youtu.be/0TjyLU0-9SE

>>72317085

2:10

https://youtu.be/IrWMyX4cnpk?t=130

>>72329983
>insufferable jazz fusion wankery

>>72315368
>posts jazzmaster
>2 high end japanese guitars and 2 of the lowest mexican guitars
Axe yourself

>>72330118
Post something that you enjoy.

>>72330187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9Y5Dhzciyc&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZENkj7C7Bw

>>72330086
It all makes sense now

>>72330444
I genuinely never knew that music could possibly be this bland, thx4postin

>>72330444
How do jazz guys get that tone? Just roll the tone off and use a lot of compression? Almost sounds like a Rhodes piano

>>72330485
low tone, low volume knob, neck pickup, warm-sounding amp with the treble rolled down. He's probably not using any compression pedal.

>>72322730
Its your fault for buying that piece of shit
T. Mexican

>>72330531
>>72330531
>>72330531

>>72325985
Oh my fucking god, this guy.