/gg/ - Guitar and Bass shitposting

>>71879783
hi

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I finished my guitar. Might wrap the whole body in black tape for looks, otherwise I'm happy with the way it looks now. For anyone who's not been following me in previous threads: I filled the middle and neck pickup cavities with shims and wood glue and sanded everything down finely, I left the body unfinished/painted because I failed 4 times to do it successfully without it turning into a DISASTER, and overall I had to sand this guitar back down to the bare wood 4 times. Days upon days of work...

It kicks ass now and I like the way the strips of tape look across the body and the old filled-in pot holes. The pickup is an EMG81.

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>>71879956
The back side

>>71879956
>>71879977

nice color scheme

>>71879956
>>71879977
very neat

>>71880041
>>71880044
Thanks

Explain Elliott Smiths guitar skill

where can i learn some strumming and rhythm patterns?

solo's and improvising is boring af lol, rhythm is where the cool kids play...

>>71880284
rhythm only is cool if its riffs

I bought a hard case on ebay and when I opened it, one of the latches popped off.
It doesn't look like anything was snapped off or broken in half, but I couldn't reattach it without it just coming off again.

Does anyone know of a good way to fix it? Or should I just return the whole case for a replacement?

>>71880694
tell them it arrived broken you fucking moron.

>try to learn some theory
>middle aged man talking into a camera he put there himself with terrible audio setup

this isn't fun :(

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>guitar won't stay in tune

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>>71880787

>>71881029
>its edgy to tell the seller that the item you bought from them was damaged in shipping

you guys get dumber by the day

>>71881073
Cheer up anon. Positive attitude.

>>71879956
I still don't really get why you paid so much for this guitar, but the project itself was pretty cool. Rubbing some boiled linseed oil can be a nice way to improve the looks of your grain. It's totally foolproof, too. Not a real finish or anything but still looks nice.

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Shiny Guitar is best Guitar

>>71881023
if it's a hard tail a really ghetto fix would be putting foil over the nut, once you tune that its going to be in tune for a while

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>>71881412
No. Matte guitar is best guitar.

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>>71881438
Not on my watch

Would adjusting the intonation on a floyd rose bridge affect the bridge angle by a noticeable amount?

>>71881510
Why would that change the angle?

>>71880979
Read a book you millennial fuck.

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>>71879956
>>71879977

Why did Orange amps get pigeonholed into metal? They produce nice clean tones.

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I hate myself - I want someone to respray my Strat in nitro and then relic the shit out of it

>poseur

Are all soundhole acoustic pickups the same?

I have a shit fishman single coil, and it sounds pretty good through an amp, but you hear guys like Father John who has a freaking d-28 and it sounds so thin and lifeless with whatever pickup he has on it

Could it be cause he must likely plays through a twin?

>>71881927
If you make the finish super thin it'll "Relic" by itself. Just buy a cheap pine body from Ebay and do it yourself.

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>>71881781
Marketing, it's called "aspirational branding". Metal/Doom/ players are the ones most likely to spend money unnecessarily (see Emperor Cabs, EGC guitars, using complex Modeling amps for two tones, etc). Hipsterati garage rock shitbags seem to pride themselves on their gear being cheap old garbage so they're not a desirable demographic. And that's pretty much it for rock music right now, Orange isn't going after country or jazz players.

>>71881927
Just gently throw your guitar like how I do, it's got a nice bunch of dings on it

>>71881979
>>71882041

This is an MIJ Strat - the poly finish on this is so thick that it's almost like being covered by a cellphone case. If you ding it, it'll just crack and come off. but not in a visually pleasing way.

>>71882068
That's why I recommended just buying a replacement body. You can always change it back if you need to.

Since you want a thin finish you could probably do the whole thing for under $100

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>>71882068
>he fell for the made in japan meme
how's that retarded baseball bat neck treating you faм

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Hey guys, help me out here. I've been playing punk for a few years and I don't feel like it's getting me anywhere, so I want to learn "normal" guitar (lead, blues, etc). Problem is I've developed some bad habits:

I bar all kinds of shit (ex: I bar all 3 strings of the G chord on the 2nd fret and hit the B string with a 2nd finger. I also only use 2 fingers for power chords, index for root and I bar the 2 other strings with my pinky like in the pic)

Is there really a problem with doing this, or should I re-learn everything?

>>71882279
My friend Brett, my friend Brett, my friend Brett, my friend Brett, he liked to play the guitar
But he had an awkward way of playing barre chords
With two fingers spreading his index and middle fingers really far apart
One day in band practice he dropped like a deer was shot and was flipping around like a fish
He had an aneurysm triggered by a nerve in his hand from the strain he was putting on it
I went to see him in Ohio; he had a horseshoe shaped scar on his scalp and he talked real slow
We played pool like we did in our teens and his head was shaved and he still wore bell-bottomed jeans

>>71881378
>BLO isn't a real finish
Try telling that to anyone who's ever finished or refinished any furniture from the last century of two.
It works just fine. It's not as weatherproof as poly, but it's plenty durable and looks nice.

>>71881510
Yes.
You're changing string length, which changes string tension, which changes the tension of all the other strings too.

>>71882343
An electric guitar isn't a piece of furniture though. A thin layer of oil does very little to protect a piece of wood that's coming into all sorts of contact during regular use.

>>71882319
>Sun Kil Moon

Had to google that, cool song. I don't think I'm in danger of aneurysm, I'm just wondering if it's no biggie to do weird shit like that sometimes. Does anyone else do things like that?

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>>71881781
Stupid loud, low gain stuff like the old Oranges and oSunns don't have a market for pop lands anymore-they're just too loud.
But the stoner metal guys love it because they can dime their amp and their tone doesn't turn into an endless stream of compressed mud. Instead it just sounds gigantic.
Plus the guys from Sleep and Sunn use them to great effect, so what you're supposed to use now, right?
Speaking of which, if I ever sold my Sceptre, I could now get 5x what I paid for it thanks to them. I bought it in the late 90s just before the prices went skyward. Some old guy had it in the back of his music store for years and sold it to me for less than $200. It sounds great, but it is just ludicrously loud.

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>tube amps
>Pedals
>Gibson guitars
>Fender guitars
>Bass guitars with more than 4 strings
>Erg's
>Stone and/or wood picks
>Expensive cables
>Jazz guitar
>Blues guitar
>Anything "handwired"
>Pointy guitars
>"Finger" style
>using tabs instead of sheet music
>paying more than $200 for a guitar with a bolt on neck

O I am laffin

>>71882586
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>>71881929
It's more a function of he's using what is essentially an underwound Strat pickup with strings that are half non-magnetic (bronze wrappings don't affect a magnetic field, so the pickup only detects the swing of the tiny steel cores from the low strings. Hence a sound with no bass) and then running it through an electric guitar amp.
If you want to maximize detection from a magnetic soundhole pickup, it's best to use electric guitar strings on your acoustic. It still won't sound like an acoustic, but at least you'll get your bass response back.

Dubs decide which guitar I upgrade to

Currently stuck with a Squier

>>71882811
Duo Jet

>>71882343
Man, I'm only speaking from experience, not trying to deride BLO or anything, it's what I use. Most people think of nat guitars as having thicker finishes these days.

>>71882811

you got dubs yourself so I say change your caps and keep it.

but if not, the I say get a Suhr Classic T and fuck your wallet

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>>71882855
keks will be done

>>71882855

that was quick

>>71882855
If you can't afford a duo, get a pro or double

but if i get dubs you need to cough up the thousands for a duo jet

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>>71882944
ohhhh fuggg

>>71882811
>>71882855
>>71882944

it's your destiny anon, Duo Jet.

do it.

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>>71882811
>>71882855
>>71882944
BLACKED

>>71882279
most people play power chords with their first and ring finger, this means when you start playing other genre your pinky will be free to do other things, so i'd re learn that if i were you.

Also don't bar unnecessarily, youll be playing notes that aren't in key

>>71882279
Not really a problem, but you'll want to start learning other stuff anyway just to expand your horizons. Improving your technique will help you with all aspects of your playing.

>>71882449
True, but it's better than nothing.
If he really wants an oil finish for his electric, Tung oil is probably an even better choice because it dries to a harder finish.

>>71882623
Not really what I play, but whatever.
Stay triggered.

>>71882279
I would switch to using index, ring, pinky for power chords. I used barre using my ring finger like how you are using your pink and I cant imagine playing like that now.

Start learning chords that arent power chords to use more fingers and practice playing up and down the neck, just get used to moving your hand around the fret board.

>>71883272
who cares a note out of key is played
even if you play all chords major it will sound good so why bother

>>71883350
>Not really what I play, but whatever.
it doesn't really matter what you play if you don't ever leave your house

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MY BODY IS READY

MY WALLET ISN'T

BUT WHO CARES

Playing without a high e string for a few months has forced me learn tapping, this is fun.

>>71883567
that is fun
it forced me to learn scales horizontally
tapping no

>>71882605
>fedoravape posters, weebs, bedroom warriors, and poorfags ruined /gg/

>>71884262
it's gotten very quiet here recently

Should I buy Texas or Surfer Seymour Duncan antiquitys for my strat?

>>71881995
But how exactly did Orange manage to acquire such a loyal metalhead consumer base?

Metalheads are attracted to the pointy edgy stuff and Orange products are far from that.

>>71884533
>loyal
It's called the entertainment business. Emphasis on the "business". You've got to full on hump it if you want to be a musician for a living. Orange is "placing" their product and the placement can really help a struggling musician get by.

Orange started pushing really hard to set up touring metal musicians with gear and endorsements about 10 years ago. Most of the musicians you see using Orange shit do it because it's free and and Orange is an international company. This means instead of flying a cab to Japan when you tour ($$$) you just contact the "artist relations" guy when you land in Japan and they set you up with a cab to tour with while you're there. It's a huge cost saver when you're scraping by money wise touring.

Orange was looking to expand their name recognition and they did a good job doing that with all the metal bands they endorsed these last 10 years or so.

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Hello /gg/, question here.

I started modding a guitar a while back. It's like a starter dean guitar. Anyways I've finally just about finished but it needs a new neck as there is a decent sized gash in the fretboard and fret. The problem is that it's a 24.75" scale, and I'm having problems finding strat style necks in that scale. Any ideas?

I know I could technically just get a new fretboard but it's really not worth that much effort.
pic related, tell me what you think

Hey guys
have you worshiped our new god , and master of the up and down style, Andy Negative?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjQKQAedgCw#t=190.021

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>>71884808
>dean

>>71882808
I might try that, i have one dedicated acoustic i use on an amp cause it isn't the best projection wise acoustically.

Thanks mate

>>71883272
>>71883390
I normally use index and pinky for power chords. It's a little awkward but doesn't really impair speed and you can also use two fingers across all strings when frethand muting. Helps avoid accidental harmonics.

>>71883390
I can finger A/B/C/D/E/F/G pretty well (despite barring strings on A and D). I mostly started using my pinky for situations where I need to go

4 > 3
6 > 6
6 > 6

...and couldn't stretch that far unless I used my pinky on the higher strings. I mostly became alarmed when I started watching Justin's BEGINNER training videos and he does the A/D chords the proper way, and I freaked the fuck out thinking that my whole shit is wrong.

Anyway, I really really really need to figure out how to do proper string bends (the doorknob pivot deal) so I can get a halfway decent vibrato (can't vibrato for shit now). I keep hitting the strings above when I do a bend. Either that or I accidentally pluck them with my fingernail when I release. There are a million videos on how to bend strings, but NONE seem to address the issue I'm having. Am I just a retard and not enough people have this problem to warrant a video?

Dunno if it matters or not but I just bought an Ibanez S520 (been playing on a g-400 and a Squier for my whole punk career) and plan on practicing with that for my improvement. My goal? To be able to play buttrock.

>>71881927
Learn how to play guitar first, then worry about how it looks

>>71885010
Not that I have to explain but for your benefit:

My little sister, being like every other girl, had a phase where she wanted to learn guitar. Uncle buys her this and she gives up almost immediately. So I decided to trick it out.

Also, what does the model matter if I gut everything and replace it?

Let me see what you're building homie

>>71884808
Take a pic of the gash, you might just be able to replace the fret

>>71884808
Well, even if you get a 24.75 neck there's a good chance you might need to move the bridge a smidge. So you might just go for a 25.5 and move the bridge back. Also, can you post a pic of the neck damage? Just curious.

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>>71885277

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>>71884882
This is painful

>>71884882
fuck off Andy

>>71885318
Take it to a guitar shop (not Guitar Center) and they should be able to do something for you. I took a nice chunk out of the side of my bass neck and my local guy filled it with some type of epoxy. Looks like shit but you can't tell it's there if you close your eyes.

>>71885331
>>71885389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRRQFkCdqic

but yet one more?

>>71879956
one pickup and two tape fakepickups lol wtf man

>>71882041
sigh i will never get you people that want to make fake relic guitars

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>>71879956
was gonna defend him and say "he probably just used tape to cover cavities from old pickups"

then I saw
>I like the way the strips of tape look

God fucking dammit.

>>71885663
no it doesnt look like complet shit hes epic BROOTALZ now mane hes got two BLACK TAPE pickups and a fucking sanded down body hes metal as fuck!

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>>71883416
Sure it does. Especially when it sounds this fucking good.
And for the record, it also matters that you're poor and jealous in addition to being untalented.
You're also lying to yourself. You keep saying that it doesn't matter, but if it really didn't matter to you, you wouldn't care.

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>>71884787
Wow. Actual helpful information on /gg/. Maybe this place isn't an absolute shit hole after all.

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>>71885810
truth hurts, I guess

>>71884387
I'd do the surfers, but that's me. I like the more full frequency tone of properly wound or underwound pickups vs the overwound Texas-voiced sound.

does anyone else think gibson guitars are overrated garbage or is it just me being edgy

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>>71885852
>mfw anons in /gg/ just hate me because I like to laugh at the stupids

>>71885318
Just get a repair guy to smooth out that one fret and maybe radius the edges of the gouge too. It'll be fine.

>>71885624
Nah, it's a gentle rage throw

>>71886038
They're not garbage. I'll give them that.
They're ridiculously expensive due to being "handmade" (with the occasional quality issues that come along with that) and are not the end-all, be-all of tone that the fanboy trolls say. But they're not bad. Some of them are even very, very good.
They are just incredibly expensive for not much more playability or tone than a midrange guitar.

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>>71884882
>>71885466
>mfw picking that close to the bridge

What's up?

I have a question.

I have been researching guitars for a minute and I am not entirely satisfied with what I have found to be available.

I am in the market for a 7 string.

I do not want the body to be made of ash, basswood, alder, or mahogany.

I do not want the fretboard to be made of maple, ebony or rosewood.

I do not want the neck to be made out of maple.

The neck I like is the wizard 7, 11 piece maple wenge bubinga purpleheart neck on the ibanez rg 1027pdf model. It also has a lovely wenge fretboard.

But I don't want basswood. And I don't know how I feel about the tight end bridge. It looks funny.

What are my options? Why is it impossible to find a dealer, zzounds, sweetwater, guitar center, that lets me filter by wood? Is that really too much to ask? Drummers get that option.

I don't have a body shape or company preference that I know of. I just want the woods to be right and I don't like fret dots on the 1st fret. I also don't like 3 strings on one side and 4 on the other. All 7 must be on one side.

Bridge can be either no spring, springs, i can enjoy whatever.

>>71886658
I suggest you to stop being a contrarian cunt cause the woods don't matter

>>71886658
I prefer no paint on my wooden guitar. Right handed. Pickups can be whatever. High end pickups sound good no matter what from my experience. DimarZio Seymour Duncan EmG it don't matter. I trust the company.

I know this might be a lot, but I worked hard for my money and I ain't gonna spend it on BS. My price range is nonexistent. If it's what I want, I'll save up for it and buy it if I don't already have enough.

Please and thank you for any help with my journey.

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>>71886658
>Bridge can be either no spring, springs

>>71886705
Excuse me? I'm not going to pay money for a piece of shit guitar. I jam with too many percussionists to not want high quality exotic woods in my instrument. I am also very good and want my instrument to be the best I can find. I have the patience.

>>71886658
>>71886707
get a custom if you've got the money
honestly you sound like a picky cunt but any luthier would love to take your money

>>71886658
>>71886707
>>71886738
this is good bait

>>71886771
roman werking ot

>>71886716
There are pros and cons about all types of bridges. I could enjoy a floating bridge, a bridge like a strat, or a bridge like an acoustic. It don't matter. If all the other specs are 100% and it only comes down to the bridge, I wouldn't care.

>>71886796
>a bridge like an acoustic
if you call it that instead of 'fixed' or 'hard-tail', you're acoustic

>>71886739
What makes me a cunt? I just want my guitar the way I want my guitar. I have no need to just buy a random instrument. I want something legit.

>>71886658
>in the market for a guitar
>doesn't want anything on the market
>wants his own set of unique specs instead.

Go get a custom guitar built. That way you can get EXACTLY what you want. It'll cost a pile of money, but you can get it if you pay the fee.

>>71886812
Do I need to use those terms? You understood what I meant. Why do people on 4chan act like this?

>>71886820
None of the companies I know of offer custom instruments.

>>71886836
I'm more concerned with the amount of people on 4chan that act like an aspie on purpose ;)

>>71886854
What is Google, Tom?

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>>71886836
>Welcome to Fight Club.
>The first rule of Fight Club is: you do not talk about Fight Club.
>The second rule of Fight Club is: you DO NOT talk about Fight Club!
>Third rule of Fight Club: someone yells "stop!", goes limp, taps out, the fight is over.
>Fourth rule: only two guys to a fight.
>Fifth rule: one fight at a time, fellas.
>Sixth rule: No shirts, no shoes.
>Seventh rule: fights will go on as long as they have to.
>And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club... you have to fight.

>>71886038
They're not garbage but they're a prime example of the law of diminishing returns

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Reminder that only Nu-Male cucks hate Blues Rock.

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>>71885466
pls stop

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>>71886658
>>71886707
>>71886738
>>71886796
>>71886813
>>71886836
>>71886880

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>>71886658
For me it's the McChicken, the best fast food sandwich.

>>71886836
Because words mean things, and we'd rather not have to believe that you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you're going to throw away thousands of dollars trying to chase your dream, that's on you. But some of us would like to know that YOU know just what the hell you're getting yourself into, and aren't just throwing your money down a hole.

For instance, a bridge is a vital part of a guitar, and any player who's played a lot will usually have clear opinions of what he likes and doesn't. That you don't-and don't even know the names of various types-is troubling. It makes people think you don't know what you're doing.
Same with the pickups and other functional components. You don't have an opinion, and aren't even interested. That's a subject which a real guitarist would have an opinion, and an informed one at that.
That leads me to believe that you are about to spend vast sums of money building a guitar with no regard to how it actually functions as a guitar.

While it is your money and you are certainly free to do that, your money would be much better spent on lessons and a more standard guitar to learn on. When you can get the ability to play a guitar competently, then the guitar of your dreams will start to take a much clearer form.

>>71885318
You can file the frets down below that, or just pop that one fret off and replace it if you want to do a bit more labor but spend less on tools.

https://clyp.it/y3fcrmjh

>>71886836
>>71887543
just stop roman there's no one in here right now

>>71887610
putting aside that english is probably not your first language, your singing is too breath-y: sing from your gut, not your throat

>>71887543
Damn dude. You all need to get laid. Why bother?

>>71887688
how to sing from the gut
my throat hurts after singing

Should i get a strat or a mosrite clone for indie rock?

>>71887691
Now you're just trolling badly.

>>71887839
indie? arent mosrites for playing ventures?

So is this whole Buckethead craze over? or has it been for a while?

>>71887859
Mac demarco uses a kinda mosrite-ish guitar

>>71887783
imagine like you are holding a weight on your belly when you breathe out for each note: your diaphragm should be working hard when you sing

>>71885318
the fretboard gash isn't that big of a deal, the only real problem is that slice in the fret

the lower gash on the board looks kind of close to the fret though.

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>>71885501
>>71885663
If I didn't cover them up with something you would see 2 blotchy rectangular shapes on the surface from the shims and glue. Pic related.

>>71880694
Option A: return to seller
Option B: grab some screws and be a man

>>71887987
If you're in sf bay area California I can paint your guitar for free. You seem like a cool guy.

Hey guys Im pretty new to guitar and I found a new chord progression. I was wondering if there is a special website I can use to share it so others can find out about it. Basically it goes from C, G, Am, F but on the C I add in the third fret on the B string. Do I copyright it or something?

>>71888039
Wow thanks man. I'm in Chicago however.

>>71887839
Either works.
Fender stuff is more popular for indie, mostly because Fender stuff was more popular anyway, and people used what they could get.
If you can get a good sound from it, that's all that matters.

>>71888102
weak bait

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I've spent literally at least 50 hours trying to learn guitar during my free-time and still none of my fingers are remotely flexible or strong in the slightest. I can't even transition between the simplest of chords without a several second pause in between. All I want is to just play and write the simplest music, shit like Empire Empire but I can't even do that. I'm so unnaturally bad at this, should I just give up bros?

>>71888269
Just play

>>71888269
Pirate disks 1,2,3 of metal method and do them. Take about a month per disk and you will be at a point where you can play most black sabbath (not the solos), any punk, and a lot of intermediate music. Then keep playing and learn as much as you can about theory. Just dont stop doing exercises.

The guy in the vid is a total tool, that is every stereotype of hair metal- but his DVDs fucking work.

>>71888102
Can't copyright chords or progressions. Those are considered part of music theory and as such are in the public domain.
Any melodies, however ARE subject to copyright, and I suggest you protect the fuck out of them if you are at all smart.

Also, the little extra thing you are doing with the C chord turns it into a C2, aka Cadd9.

>>71888269
50 hours is nothing. that's like practicing one hour a day for 50 days. when i first started playing it took me like 4 months to switch between open chords half decently

>>71888293
I'll keep trying.
>>71888313
Looking into this, thanks.
>>71888351
It just feels like I'm seeing no progress so it's frustraing, but I guess it just takes a long time.

>>71888269
>>71888351
Seriously. It was 4 months for me to connect a couple of chords together somewhat smoothly, and that was when I was like 12 and had nothing but free time to practice guitar. Just be patient and practice and learn.

God damn people be lookin for an Easy button too much these days.

>>71888269
So in other words, you're halfway to the point I was when I could start to be confident in my form and chord changes.

Great, you've only got 70 more hours of practice to go! Better get to it, anon.

>>71888406
You reminded me of when I was learning the basics. Guitar hero and rockband were big and my friends were spending literal days and playing the games. In that same time they took to hit expert on fire and flames I learned how to do the basics, and struggle through the rhythm for Rocket Queen on a real guitar.

Fender Hotrod Deluxe (USA model) for $350. Should I do it bros?

>>71886836
>Why do people on 4chan act like this?
This is the eternal question, it shall haunt humanity forever.

>>71888269
It's better if you practice for a couple hours a day playing some songs you like than trying to blow through it in one sessions or else you'll get really blown out and want to stop playing

>>71886836
>>71888471

Youths. Goddam youths.

>>71888456

I'm a good bit older than that. Patience was a current release, and it may've been one of the first songs I connected chords together on. It was definitely the first solo I learned. The chord change also might have been on Every Rose by Poison, though...too remote to tell at this point. You made a good choice learning music instead of video gaem moosik, anon. We'd be so much further along musically if Hero never existed...

>>71888269
That's ok.
Focus on the absolute basics right now-holding the guitar properly, holding the pick properly, being able to tune your guitar, making sure your fretting hand is positioned so your fingers can move freely, not death-gripping the neck, pressing lightly onto the strings, making sure all of the notes on the chords sound out properly, transitioning between chords, where all of the notes are on the fretboard, and how to play barre chords.
It sounds like a lot, and it is for right now, but all of that stuff is fundamental to good form, so drill it early and often.

Learning good form now at the beginning keeps you progressing-you don't fall into any bad habits that limit you.

My mind and hands are stuck in phrygian dominant
Oops

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>>71888269

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>>71888752
What a fucking reddit-tier gif, please fuck off back to Facebook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAVQGtOxOhI

>playing with 3 different e-guitar
>seamlessly combining 2 rock songs(2 different artists at that) with ease
>managing to bust out awesome riffs/solos
>all of that live in the middle of a stadium with almost 75K people(+ 150 million viewers),
>during a fucking storm-weather,when your stage is wet and you and your dancers are wearing high heels without fail!!

Can someone tell how you do those string movements @ 7:59-8:01?I had no idea you can actually do that with your guitar!

>>71888923
>that greentext
Tap your pick against the strings

>>71879783
So, how good are these OP links?
Are they actually useful or are they /mu/ faggotry?

>>71888923
>Can someone tell how you do those string movements @ 7:59-8:01?I had no idea you can actually do that with your guitar!
Its called practice. Its how you learn things.
see this image >>71888858

>>71889194
Wait?just tap?That's it?

>tfw Prince will never be your music-teacher

>>71889275
I already have the answer.
https://youtu.be/6SFNW5F8K9Y?t=3m25s

For fuck sake,he raped that damn guitar!!

>>71889258
They're actually awesome.

>>71887096
He's right though

>>71888269
have some self-discipline.

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octotonic scale > you're favorite scale

>>71879783
>justinguitar.com
this site looks like gay shit

>>71889456
> you are favorite scale

Good one

>>71889727
what are scales? I've only been playing like 6 months.

>>71889456
why is D marked as a natural in the second one? doesn't seem to be any point

>>71889713
Gay shit that works

>>71889353
No he's not.

The sad truth is that most people's "new and original" shit isn't good. At all. Because THEY don't know THEIR shit. Instead they try to be like the new post-modern philosopher who's going to show all the plebs that everything they believe is wrong, and all he ends up doing is being the asshole who tears down stuff with neither plan nor ability to put it together into anything anybody wants to buy.

I'm not saying you have to be all hidebound to 100+ year old music and only slavishly repeat what came before, but you should at least be conversant in the forms. The old blues, country and rock and roll forms were dance music-they had a beat, a regular form and progressions that were easy so people could dance to them and musicians could play them without losing the beat. Even now when you play them that way, people want to get up and dance to them because they're fun.
Though we've progressed as far as the complexity and technical ability of the music is concerned, there's also something that we've lost in the process, and it's this notion that music is a communal thing
That's something that we've lost from popular music lately. It's a shame, and id even go so far as to call it unnatural. From time immemorial, people would get together, dance the night away to music with a beat, get drunk with friends and fuck each other's

>>71889803
see >>71889918

>>71889803
Basically this
>>71889970
Just shit that sounds "good" together
You can use that shit to make your shit sounds like shit that you want it to sound like

>>71889929
>fuck each other's
...Brains out.
It may not seem profound, but it's human nature to want to do that, and "new music" as currently defined is not providing that today. That's one thing we can learn from the old forms-ways to satisfy that primal human desire, and I believe we must learn it if we are to be successful musicians.

>>71885255
Deans are neat, don't listen to haters. Dont matter whatever topping you put on your pizzas someone is gonna say it's gross

>>71890144
the headstocks are gay as fuck. Plus, by buying one, you give MAB money.

>>71890180
MAB is a good guy bro

>>71887480
Get mcdouble, pull apart between the beefs. Put that bitch in there, put back together. $2.50 monster sandwich

>>71890212
bruh, anyone that brought us this video should be gassed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lrWZuRn08I

>>71890180
The big V shaped one is ok. The one that looks like an ibanez headstock with the dean wing logo is pretty gay tho.

Whats the cheapest bass rig I can get to play with another guitar buddy, and a drummer sometimes? Should I just find a random cheap used 210 cab with a head? What head? Mainly for hardcore music

>>71890232
It's of my favorite songs actually

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I DID IT!

Took hours, but I finally repaired this piece of shit from Seymour Duncan. Never buying from them again. Well, it's my favorite sounding jazz bass pickup, so what can I do. Nobody seems to make a clone.

>>71891161
Holy fuck

>>71891161
why do you pull out your hair?
weird

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I'm trying to get into playing jazz and i have a problem

I already learned major minor and minor harmonic scales, i know the modes i know the blues scale and major and minor pentatonic scales.

I know triads both minor and major

and i know all maj7 7 m7 and m7b5 chords.

But i'm trying to learn how to jam jazz and i find out that i also need to know things like m9 mi9 mi 6 and 9#5...

if i want to play jazz, do i have to learn by heart the 5 position of every chord in existence (pic related) ?

i don't understand how a human mind can even store that amount of knowledge much less access it and use it quickly.

Any tips for this?

>>71891456
That's not even 1/4 of what I pulled off

>>71891672
>I'm trying to get into playing jazz and i have a problem

Apparently.

>>71891725
i know i have a lot of hard work ahead of me, but it seems to me that there has to be some kind of trick, else only supergeniuses who can keep 1000+ different chord shapes in their heads and access them instantly could play

>>71891825
C'mon dude everyone knows the best jazz players play the wring chords.

>>71892137
what's that?

>>71892199
Wrong* chords

>>71892260
that does not help

>>71888731
lydian and major blues personally

>>71889456
What is this in tabs?

>>71891672
I've been playing jazz for about three years, I played classical for about ten years before, been to some competitions and even won in some, I've been in some jazz festivals also, so I have some idea what I'm talking about, but I'm also still learning so take everything with a grain of salt. I think it's better to learn scales or rather the sounds of every interval against the root drone. In this way you won't have to actively memorize hundreds of chords, because you will be able to make them yourself almost on the spot. In the start it's seems impossible but you can do it. Also CAGED system paired with pentatonics and then the two extra 2 tones for all the modes is in my opinion a way to go.

what's the most complex riff you can play, gg?

>>71893142
iron man

>>71893142
It's a tremelo riff by Paysage d'Hiver. The difficulty lies solely in trying to alternate tremelo picking up and down multiple strings in short bursts. I fucking suck at it. Jesus Dod from Filosofem is another one I struggle at.


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Traded my defect epiphone for this older Jackson today. Pretty happy with it even though it's not my type of guitar in general as I don't really play metal (until now, I guess). What do ya guys think?
It's a korean Jackson perfomer Ps-2. I think the pups may have been upgraded also.

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>>71893276
I think you should play more metal

>>71893294
Yeah. Think I'll learn some more Megadeth and Iron Maiden songs for now and see where it takes me

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Mandolin is /gg/, right?

>>71893444
i think ur picture's backwards

>>71893553
Maybe but lefty guitars are gross so what can you do

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>>71879956
>I finished my guitar.
>guitar has no finish

>>71880284
https://youtu.be/IEPw06KxdOY

https://youtu.be/wpQGwDxQwvM

what do you guys think about double neck guitars?

>>71885242
>I keep hitting the strings above when I do a bend. Either that or I accidentally pluck them with my fingernail when I release.
Practice proper and efficient muting technique.

For most things, you should be able to hit most or all the strings and have it not matter because they're properly muted and only the note you want to sound sounds out.

https://youtu.be/1eGbr3e9P-Y

i cant play pinch harmonics to save my life

>>71882319
What did they mean by this? They thought playing a standard barre chord put so much strain on your hand it would give you an aneurysm? Sounds like pussy talk to me.

>>71887610
some of this sounds like a pretty solid singer and some of this sounds like you are completely tonedeaf, don;t just stick on one note, push your self

>>71887096
What's a black gal guitarist? I don't think I've heard of that before.

>>71894775
You should never have occasion to play a pinch harmonic so don't worry. It's like how I don't sweat being unable to slap a bass. I'm not a white retard in a beret so it's not a skill I'll ever need.

>>71894812
dont reply to nigger toe

>>71887866
I certainly hope so.

>>71885663
Damn, I haven't seen this in a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3oHpup-pk

>>71893142
https://youtu.be/M0W84VOuMTI?t=126

Which MIX sounds better

https://clyp.it/h2xk2eub

https://clyp.it/nk2qi5lw

>>71894775
More distortion, the rest is muscle memory/

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>>71894775
try edging the pick

>tfw not dominican

https://youtu.be/9Jxxp0i48ng

I found an amazing looking Jap 1988 Epiphone Sherraton for $2500 (AUD), is it worth buying or would it be better spent on a modern Gibson 335?

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Want to change my 10 years old bass guitar (5 strings Rogue LX205B). The neck is bending for the second time and it sounds like shit. I'm still amateurish but I want something better than a beginner's instrument.

Can you recommend me an affordable/budget bass with flexible sound? Fifth string is preferable but not mandatory. Thanks in advance.

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>>71895148
Forgot pic

Why are Jazz guitarists so far up their asses?
>play a simple thing in sound weird time signature
>noodle around for 4 minutes
>repeat simple thing
>end song
is Jazz just a bunch of hacks?

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>>71895786
I bet you never even tried playing the Altered Scale over a 7#5 chord before.

Why are Rock guitarists so far up their asses?
>play a simple thing in sound normal time signature
>strum some power chords around for 4 minutes
>repeat simple thing
>end song
is Rock just a bunch of hacks?

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So the guitar I bought for $250 was worth $2100 in todays money. Good deals will come to you if you reply "sweep picking a shit".

>>71895855
>scales
>difficult
kek

>>71895946
>>71895786
Apathy in a nutshell

>>71879956
what did you get the neck off?

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Haven't posted here in a while. I'm the retard with the meme A7X guitar that makes videogame covers.

R8 my newest piece, I feel like my audio quality has improved a lot since I started recording one year ago.
https://clyp.it/2eysc53n

>>71895949
Sweep picking is great

https://youtu.be/T11qXR9xr7A

>>71895949
sweep picking a shit

>I only do this for the sake of my wallet

>>71879956
That looks cool as fuck, great work anon

>so, how much you asking for?

Anyone got the inside scoop on what guitar center is doing for April/guitar month?

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Hey, I kind of suck with my pinky finger.

Is it a good exercise to try and play things as fast as possible with only your ring finger and pinky finger? Like a reverse Django Reinhardt?

>>71893137
any good guide?

>>71896237
No, also guitar center is so fucking horrible it's ridiculous. Don't even give them business.

>>71896237
I know I'm going to my local music shop
Fuck GC

>>71879783
I had to post this fucking shit. The worst cover I've ever seen. It gets worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peNUTfN1dxo

>>71896476
>>71896557

It's just I'm looking to upgrade amps and the 10% thing is about $100 off Internet prices

>>71896593
do whatever you want m8
If your local store is doing anything though go there instead

>>71896261
https://youtu.be/K_zUV2YyBik

How to write chord progressions besides fifths?

I mean what are ways to find the next chord besides playing its forth (A7 > D for example)

Like whats the theory from going to 1 to 2 or 7 to 1


This song i'm listening has these chords on the verses

A7 Dm G C (all fourths/fifths in the key of Am)

then after that C

C#º Dm Am B7 E7 Am


Whats the theory for those chord changes where its not fifth

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Even the fuckin tab is a meme

>>71895669
Shameless self-bump

>>71896849
If you want to adhere to the tab you can bend the string behind the nut. Otherwise just play it one string lower.

What are some good songs to train left+right hand coordination without making me want to kill myself? I hate practicing technique slowly and prefer just playing stuff full speed in songs until I get it.
I'm intermediate probably. Like I can play Holy Wars but not the solos.

>>71897059
keep noodling and doing exercises
take a cold shower

Does anyone know what effect(s) the lead guitarist is using to get this sound?

https://youtu.be/B4_QGrJBf6Y?t=3m9s

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>>71896849
Just bend the string faggot.

>>71897108
Supposed to start at 3:09, he uses a different tone before that.

>>71897117
Do these saddles have a particular name?

I hate strat bridges with a passion but this looks pretty neat.

>>71897108
auto wah or duck
my teacher uses it on his line 6 hd

>>71897059
DO THINGS SLOW THEN SPEED UP
THAT'S HOW YOU GET GOOD

>>71897142
heres my teacher using it https://soundcloud.com/somdocaroco/apocalypse-now#t=0:33

>>71897140
Modern tremelo saddles,

>>71897140
Just google modern strat bridge saddles and you'll be sorted. I know some people use graphtech brand ones as an upgrade. Don't get the tusq ones though, they're shite

Holy shit floyd rose tremolos are the fucking worst

>>71897108
Sounds like a Qtron to me.

>>71897241
>anon graduates high school.str

>>71897278
Just traded my broken epi for a guitar with a Floyd and in 8 hours it's already killed 2 low e strings

>>71897307
Low E strings? Surely you mean high E strings, the thin ones?

>>71897362
Oopsie. My mistake. Yeah. High E strings

>>71897278
>>71897307
ITT: Retards don't know how to set up a FR

It's not that hard, fellas. Once you get the correct spring tension for your the strings and tuning you want that guitar to have, putting new ones is EZ.

>in 8 hours it's already killed 2 low e strings
Hahahaha holy shit.
That used to happen to me when I was FUCKING 13 YEARS OLD.

>>71897406
Meant to reply to >>71897241

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>>71897406
I actually know how to set up a floyd rose, but they are still alot more difficult than a regular bridge to set up. Don't lose it senpai

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>>71895996
What?
>>71896121
Thanks. I wouldn't sell it though. An Electra-Westone Dynasty modded to suit my playing style has been my dream guitar for a while. When I found out how relatively cheap they are considering they were ONLY made in 1984, I was ecstatic and had to get one ASAP. Paid $250 on Ebay and even though I stripped the original finish and removed the old pickups, I wouldn't even sell the thing the way it is now for 2 thousand dollars.

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Why is it so hard to find the full video of Vinnie Moore's "Advanced Lead Guitar Techniques?" I'm not going to try some shady Russian torrent from 50 results down in Google search.

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>>71896040
Pretty gud

>>71896755
C# augmented consists of c#, e# (f), g## (a)
Dm consists of d, f, a
Am consists of c, e, a
B7 consists of b, d#, a (and f#)
E7 consists of b, d, g# (and e)

Notice how you only change 1 or 2 notes to go from one chord to the next. A scale that all these chords take their notes from would be
a b c (c#) d (d#) e f g#
which is just a harmonic minor with added maj3 and aug4 / dim5, or your standard blues scale but with a maj7 instead of min7 and min6 instead of maj7.

>>71897059
>I hate practicing technique slowly and prefer just playing stuff full speed in songs until I get it.
Too bad, that's literally how you do it.

>hurr durr I hate practicing motorcycle riding slowly and prefer just racing MotoGP full speed until I get it

>>71879956
>>71879977
>>71887987
>>71897450
wicked trell brah

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The only metal band that sounds good with floyd rose dives

>>71897728
>Metal
>sounding good
Pick one, and only one.

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ra8 h8 appreci8

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>>71897514
rutracker is not a shady site, one of the best in fact.

>>71897760
>tele
*puke*

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>>71897760

>>71895786
Jazz bassists are worse.
>1-3-5-7-1

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Floyd Rose:
>Tune
>Adjust bridge
>Tune
>Adjust bridge
>Tune
>Adjust bridge
>Change strings
>Restring
>Tune
>Adjust bridge
>Die of old age

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>>71897813
>>71897846
rude responses quite frankly

>>71897728
https://youtu.be/76aaomO2yPg

>>71897928
Just overcompensate while tuning so it pulls itself into tune.
No need to adjust the bridge more than once unless you change string gauges / type.

TuneOMatic:
>tune
>play 3 notes
>out of tune
>tune
>bend 1 string
>out of tune
>tune
>look at amp funny
>out of tune
>snap your back because you're playing a Les Paul and it weighs 3 metric tons

>>71898107
generic af + trying to replace a bass player with an 8th string sounds like shit

>>71897761
Thanks, Super Ninfriendo

I want to get one of those leather coverings like what Elvis had on his acoustic guitar for my Strat. What's the best place to get this? And how much do you think it'd cost?

>>71898155
>he doesn't own a chambered les paul

>>71898303
>les paul
*barf*

Gotta get that brand new uploaded shit for your fix bros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBOSHj5ogMo

>>71898489
How can people stand to watch this guy.

>>71890232
I love this video in a culturally historical way. To think that this type of music was the stuff that people listened to is hilarious to me.

>>71898711
You think your shit smells better than theirs?

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I just wanted to record a lead track for my black metal song, but my pick said no and moved. Now my track is a little choppy.. . .

>>71896755
There is not a whole lot of theory in chord progressions themselves, but there are some reoccurring patterns. For example: chord motion going up in fourths/down in fifths sounds the most pleasant, and after that, chords that are a third away from each other.

As for the progression you posted: It starts on the III and uses #iiidim motion to get to the iv chord. Then it drops a fourth going to the i. Going from iv to i is called a plagal cadence.
The next part is trickier because it uses a lot of what are called secondary dominants. Hopefully you know that dominants resolve very strongly to the tonic. You can place that level of tension/resolution by altering chords to be dominant in quality. This only works when the chord moves down a fifth/up a fourth. The #dim movement of earlier is related to this concept, because you could see C#dim as a A7 without a root.
The B7 is a secondary dominant going to the V. The fifth chord in natural minor is normally a minor chord, but because the resolution going from v to i is pretty weak, people make the chord major because that has the natural seventh, which wants to resolve very strongly to the tonic.

>>71897596
C#o means diminished not augmented. C+ would be augmented

>>71899104
why not use common dim and aug markers

>>71897596
>A scale that all these chords take their notes from would be
>a b c (c#) d (d#) e f g#
>which is just a harmonic minor with added maj3 and aug4 / dim5, or your standard blues scale but with a maj7 instead of min7 and min6 instead of maj7.

The scale is A major actually
The key is A major

The C#º was used as a transition from C to Dm, its not "inside" the key's scale

Which genres of music and guitars does /gg/ NOT shit on?

>>71899178
Atmospheric Free Jazz

>>71899137
DAMN the key is A MINOR.
Ignore everything i said

>>71898711
I'm not saying it's objectively worse or something. I mean, I unironically like disco and people hate that shit, but that doesn't matter to me, just like I hope that it doesn't matter to others when I don't like a certain genre.

>>71899118
because they can't always be used interchangeably

>>71899004
>You can place that level of tension/resolution by altering chords to be dominant in quality
In that song its the B7 and E7 right?
Got it

>Hopefully you know that dominants resolve very strongly to the tonic
To the tonic, not just to the fourth up?

>The B7 is a secondary dominant going to the V. The fifth chord in natural minor is normally a minor chord, but because the resolution going from v to i is pretty weak, people make the chord major because that has the natural seventh, which wants to resolve very strongly to the tonic.
Cool
How he went from A to B? Just know by ear the sound of the II, and of the II>V motion?

>The #dim movement of earlier is related to this concept, because you could see C#dim as a A7 without a root.
Actually it would be with a augmented root (A#), and bass on the maj3.
How does that sum up?

So whats on that song is
"maj7 / maj > fourths"
(At that point it sounds like modulated to the C / relative major key)
then he breaks the fourths with the C# (or A7 8/C# (is it how its written?))
then plagal cadence (down to fifth) going back to i
then somehow i > II7, then maj7>fourth again (ii > v > i)

>>71899178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgE5xWnEv80

>>71896071

This guy shreds

>>71899443
You don't have to think about it that analytically. The only important part in making chord progressions is if it sounds good, that goes for anything in music. You don't need to have a bunch of rules for chord progressions. But when you start exploring what makes them tick, then you can find a whole world of order and beauty. So you don't have to stress about how chords can move from I to II or something.

>Actually it would be with a augmented root (A#), and bass on the maj3.
I think you mean that C#dim chords have a Bb (enharmonically equivalent to A#). The chord you described is a A7b9 without a root. There is no such thing as an augmented root though.

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>local shop has a spanish acoustic guitar i want for 550 euroroos
>go in earlier, priced down to 350 because tomorrow is guitar week or some shit

i feel like i got away with something i shouldnt have

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>>71899651

Is it true that Mexican Fender Strats in the 90's were made with American parts?

>>71899675
no