/mu/s Best Album of All Time Tournament - DAY 5

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First for Fish

>>71760383
Alright boys, I'm really busy right now so I'm just gonna post the polls here:

OK COMPUTER vs LOVELESS -
http://www.strawpoll.me/12598089

LOW vs ITAOTS -
http://www.strawpoll.me/12598099

PET SOUNDS vs SPIDERLAND -
http://www.strawpoll.me/12598101

REMAIN IN LIGHT vs DEATHCONSCIOUSNESS -
http://www.strawpoll.me/12598102

STGSTV vs MADVILLAINY -
http://www.strawpoll.me/12598105

THE HAND ALBUM vs THE BANANA ALBUM -
http://www.strawpoll.me/12598111

MBDTF vs KID A -
http://www.strawpoll.me/12598115

98.12.28 vs ITCOTCK -
http://www.strawpoll.me/12598118

HAVE FUN

POLLS CLOSE AT 2 PM EST TOMORROW

>>71760432
>OK COMPUTER vs LOVELESS

WHYYYYY

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>>71760432
Let's do this

REMINDER:

Ok Computer 51-49
ITAOTS 58-42
Pet Sounds 63-37
RiL 60-40

Madvillainy 53-47
Banana 64-36
Kid A 55-45
ITCOTCK 70-30

>LOW vs ITAOTS
rip Bowie

Missed the first thread, how were the albums drawn?

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let's get this party fucking started

MBDTF is going to win

Don stepped outside

this tournament becomes exponentially more Reddit with each round

>>71760432
VOTE FOR LOVELESS

>>71760432
holy, all the polls open right from the start of the round
>>71760466
People would nominate albums, first 128 with 4+ replies were selected and randomly matched up

>>71760432
Who /STGSTV/ here?

>>71760507
Thanks

>>71760447
I LOVE THEM BOTH SO MUCH T.T

How is the banana album and spiderplace losing???

DON'T LET KID A WIN

>>71760525
I am

>>71760541
because memes

>>71760447
Well it's obviously Loveless

>>71760525
>>71760556
my dudes

Anyone else unironically hoping ITAOTS wins?

>>71760491
Agreed. For that reason I think we should try and keep Have A Nice Life alive - it's the only album here (apart from Fishmans) that is known well and associated with /mu/ and not pitchfork/anywhere else.

>>71760451
Nice /g/ meme

>>71760597
Yes because its all mucore so might as well let the biggest meme win

>>71760525
I am but I still love Madvillainy.

>>71760597
I'm hoping STGSTV will pull through but I wouldn't really be mad if ITAOTS won

>>71760525
yep

>>71760431
The gap between ITAOTS vs Low is already enormous but the voting just started anyways

>>71760541
Ok Computer was a few votes ahead and is already almost surpassing Loveless. Lets wait

The adrenaline rush though*

If radiohead gets kicked out this round I'm gonna be mad bro :(

>>71760548
hi mate voted for kid a suck a dick la

>>71760597
If ITAOTS goes against Remain in Light or Kid A it'll lose. But I can see it reaching semis

I like STGSTV as much as everyone else, but Madvillainy is the best record of it's genre, so I believe it deserves the win over Spirit.

Also stop voting for OK Computer, nobody wants to see the most predictable winner win.

>Madvillainy is beating Spirit
How?

>>71760621
>voting against an album you love
I feel you my dude, I feel like I have to go to confession for voting Pet Sounds over Spiderland.

>>71760677
nmh won't lose to talking heads... cmon
as much as they should that wouldn't happen.

>>71760685
Because it's better?

>>71760722
It really isn't

>>71760733
It actually is.

>>71760602
If you think Deathconsciousness is only associated with /mu/ you are not paying attention. It is also a very reddit album as is all /mu/core.

>>71760739
It isn't at all

>>71760685
I feel like making a poster that shows a person voting for Madvillainy against Marquee Moon, Music for Airports, and STGSTV with the caption "THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON PITCHFORK"

>>71760681
We should be glad no one nominated In Rainbows or AMSP instead of The Bends, just imagine three radiohead albums cleaning the way to the semis


>>71760705
Remain in Light is /mu/s favorite album

>OKC and Loveless almost tied
>breaks out in cold sweat

Fishmans will still win right?

>>71760763
>Implying the worst eno ambient record beats the greatest Hip Hop record

>>71760681
By that logic Lift Your Skinny Fists should beat the banana. I wouldnt be upset about that though

>voting ITAOTS over Low
kill yourself in the most painful way possible

vote for LOW

who else is /goingtobedestroyedbytalkingheads/ here? HaNL had a good run

>>71760704
I feel you dude <3

>>71760799
Velvet underground is going to win, most experimental

>>71760763
>I listen to everything except rap and country

Reminder that Flood was the farthest that a non-Reddit album got

Rooting for Loveless and TVU
I'm fine with this round as long as MBDTF gets crushed.

>>71760797
As ridiculous as I think calling Madvilliany the greatest hip hop record (maybe of the 2000s though) ever is, saying that Music for Airports is Eno's worst ambient work is probably the most incorrect thing I've seen on this board. Have you really even listened to them?

>>71760835
I know it will but LYSF is the best /mu/core and deserves to beat it in my opinion. I know that won't be received well but idgaf

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>tfw don't even like MBDTF but still voted for it, just to make sure Radiohead doesn't win

>>71760869
unironically this

Why is well-established /mu/core all of a sudden being considered Reddit?

>>71760862
Shh no tears. only dreams now

>tfw still getting over the fact closer lost to discovery

this competition is so lebbit

>>71760491
Don't you mean exponentially more /mu/? Every record in this final 16 is adored by /mu/.

>>71760885
Because the more obscure the better to people who listen to music as a fashion accessory to show other people.

All of these albums are critically acclaimed and popular for a reason.

>>71760885
that's what eternal contrarianism looks like, although there were some stupid ass wins in this tournament so far.

>>71760383
>money shit > Sgt peppers

Dropped you faggot know nothing

>>71760885
Because people need something to blame the fact that their "not as popular on /mu/" albums got knocked out early upon and reddit is /mu/'s scapegoat 90% of the time

>>71760853
Only other hip-hop album to hold a candle to Madvillainy would be 36 Chambers.
I agree on the fact that Airports definitely isn't Eno's worst ambient work though.

>>71760383
These 16 albums are our updated /mu/core

This shit is beyiong fucked.
I voted STGSTV even though I don't care about it at all just because of the athrocity of madvill winning over marquee moon

>tfw Low is gonna get crushed by memes

Tfw it doesn't matter if loveless or OKC win because they will be wiped next round either way.

>>71760995
And final round will be KidA vs Anne Frank meme

>>71760432
RIP Fishmans you had a good run

VOTE MBDTF OVER KID A

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my prediction is right so far
>inb4 Loveless somehow beats OK Computer
In which case it'll be Banana V Kid A.

>>71760983
Marquee Moon is over hyped garbage.
People should be upset that The Sear beat Trout Mask. '

>>71760383
>How often should these tournaments take place?
We should make another tournament, but without any of the albums that were on this one.

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wew lad

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ITT: people being upset that /mu/core is winning a /mu/tournament

>>71761031
i think STGSTV will beat Madvilliany honestly
I love Madvilliany, but over the past year or so STGSTV has been popping up all over /mu/

>>71761031
I don't see OK computer beating Aeroplane even if it is better

>>71761033
I'm still upset over Red losing to Godspeed You Black Meme, and Rock Bottom not getting to face ITCOTCK is a damn shame.

Radiohead is garbage tier stoner music

>>71761045
Or do it by decade or something

>>71760951
Having this taste (as far as the best rap album goes) is respectable I suppose but I would consider Third Side of Tape better than both of these personally.
>>71761033
not that poster but I am

what the fuck is going on with the bottom right 2 brackets. how did any of those albums get nominated?

>>71761031
>Kid A beating Spiderland
What board do you think you're on?

>>71761081
It's not about better. It's about memes. Aeroplane is a dying meme, as much as I love it.

>>71761078
I underestimated how much people like the mediocre output AnCo has done. Shame on me considering how many /mu/tants think Painting With is a good record.

That said, Feels really should've beat Spidermeme.

>>71761033
I0m upset over so many things these tournaments are so shit, we should find a better way to do this kind of stuff without it being just the same shit every time

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>>71760432
oh shit

>>71760432
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12598118
I thought that Smile was /mu/core and not Pet Sounds
also how is Kid A not winning?

>>71760432
VOTE FOR LOW YOU PIECES OF SHIT

>>71761149
>voting for anything other than ITAOTS
fucking newfags

>listen to STGSTV
>first three songs destroy my fucking eardrums in the openers
why the fuck are people voting for this album

>>71761149
As much as I would like to ITAOTS lose I'm not gonna vote for a trash artist like Bowie

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OH FUCK

Loveless (should win overall)
Low
Pet Sounds
Remain in Light
STGSTV (should've been MPP)
VU&Nico
MBDTF
ITCOTCK

These are suppose to get your vote. Or do you want to be a mouth breathing ugly virgin for the rest of your life?

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>>71761202

>>71761142
>>71761217
Bad /mu/. BAD. STOP NOW

>>71761202
>rapfag can't into pleb-tier expiremental pop
What else is new

>>71761225
Lol voted against you on half of those and I get laid consistently.

>>71761225
>MBDTF
>Not Madvillian
>Loveless is good meme
Yup. I detect a loser.

>>71761225
Should actually be:
OK Computer
ITAOTS
Pet Sounds
Remain in Light
STGSTV (agreed it should've been MPP as well)
Banana
Kid A
ITCOTCK

>>71761108
I think that doing by decade will lack of diversity, and that's the most funny part.
Banning those current albums at a next tournmant will demand more creativity at nominations

>>71761240
well it's fucking trash lol

>>71760951
Indeed. Let's agree that Donuts and Madvillainy are the best then

>>71761240
It's shit. It doesn't matter if he's a rapfag or not because it's unbearable crap.

>>71761255
>implying ITAOTS is better than Low
gay

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>>71761225
>not Fishmans
>MBDTF over KID A

If I don't like something, I'll just blame reddit!

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>Low will probably lose to ITAOTS

Loveless
ITAOTS
Spiderland
Remain In Light
Madvillainy
Hand
Kid A
ITCOTCK

is the only right choice

>>71761308
Hardest vote I've done so far. Seriously couldn't make up my vote. But in the end, my heart told me to vote for ITAOTS

I mean come on, it's ITAOTS

>>71761311
I don't really like either that much but imho Fishmans album is a little better than ITCOCK, and Black Saint was far better, and both are too obscure against the competition and that's why they lost

Mark my words. Here in a little while when school lets out MBDTF, Madvillany, and the Radiohead albums will all get a lot more votes

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I hate Kanye and want to see him BTFO.
On the other hand, King Crimson has a better shot at beating Kanye than Kid A.

Someone help me decide

Stay another season!

>>71761342
i can understand your sentiments, but for me Low was the obvious choice, so it'll be hard to see it lose

>>71760432
guys please vote godspeed

banana is good but cmon

>>71760432
literally every one i voted for is losing

We have to stop the Kanyefags. I like Kanyes music, but his fans brought one of his worst albums to beat Flood AND Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

>>71761388
>radiohead is literally against kanye
What will happen?

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>>71761285
It is better

guys if iaots wins i'm never coming back to this fucking board

>>71761428
>one of his worst albums
fucking kill yourself you filthy contrarian

>>71761403
What the hell is the appeal of Godspeed? Literally worse than mid tier ambient.

>>71761394
This, except I do like MBDTF. Not as much as Kid A though.

>>71760843
and it lost to fucking kanye.
This board really is plebby

>>71761259
Because of the nominating system this had that wouldn't be enough desu, I can already tell you that with this sttipulation the next tournament will most likely have in rainbows and MPP in top 4.
What we really need is to make tournaments with some kind of kind of theme or category and make sure that the voting process is a bit more rigorous so there's a nice balance between having a tournament where you can see the result from miles away and a litterally-who fest where the most known album will win.
I'd love to see one of these for EP's but I know that it's gonna be all anco EP's radiohead EPS american football EP probably Swans EPS and MVP and so on so forth.

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>>71761455
You hear him, vote ITAOTS everyone

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>this round so far

If this goes down to ITCOCK vs. Spiderland I'm going to cry, they are my two favorite /mu/core albums and I would hate to see either them lose.

Why do people like Spiderland more than Pet Sounds?

>>71761490
CONTRARIAN SPOTTED
I didn't vote on that one because I couldn't decide, but come on: it's a matter of quality/preference, not obscurity... Flood is really REALLY good, but its obscurity is absolutely not what matters, it shouldn't even be considered honestly.

Vote fishmans or king crimson, but preferably Fishmans because it isn't that much of a meme!
http://www.strawpoll.me/12598118

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>>71761448
you shut your lying mouth

>>71761536
Smile is much better than Pet Sounds though.

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if dubs ITAOTS wins it all

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>>71761544
>contrarian spotted
>contrarian spotter

>>71761536
Memes I guess.

Spiderland was always a highly enjoyed /mu/ record, but within the last year or so it's been memed into being the top of /mu/core, and I genuinely don't know why. It's pretty good, but it's not exactly mindblowing. It's not ITAOTS good for example.

>>71761455
Literally the most sure thing in this very round

>>71761536
because Spiderland is a much better album

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>>71761568
nice trash

>>71761456
Yeezus being one of his worst albums is a pretty common opinion around here. What about saying that makes me a contrarian?

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>>71761584
sounds like the opinion of a dirt eating peasant tier pleb tbqh

>unironically liking Kanye

what the FUCK guys come on. YOU have the power to make your board less gay. Memes are what got Trump elected, now stop fucking around where it matters.

>>71761544
I don't like Flood because it's obscure. By /mu/ standards it's not obscure at all, it gets mentioned all the time as top-tier

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>>71761614
>newfag who fell for the spidermeme

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If dubs Kanye wins tournament and later becomes President,

>>71761551
>but preferably Fishmans
if you think that is actually better than ITCOCK then honestly just reach for the bleach

>>71761641
True, I should've specified that meant obscure by the standards of an average person.

>>71761769
But this tournament is made by /mu/, why should public knowledge on the album even be a factor?

>>71761646
>newfag
back to >>>/b/ with you pls
>spidermeme
sorry it's 7deep8u but it's a really good album

>>71761251
>i still don't get loveless in 2017

back to /daily/

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>>71761225
>likes loveless
>calls other people virgins

please vote for madvillainy

>>71761866

i get it and it's shit.

It is starting to look like radiohead is going to entirely be knocked out this round.

I voted for Deathcounciousness, Loveless, Spiderland, Madvilliany and Lift Your Skinny Fists.

Fight me.

>>71761889
>thinks it's funny
>thinks he's funny

lmao virgin confirmed

>>71761942
Mostly what I said, save I voted for OK Computer

>>71761787
That's exactly what I'm arguing. People are saying "X shouldn't have won, it's 'pleeeeebian!'" when plebianism/notoriety shouldn't affect anything.

>>71761929
Post your last.fm and let us see how baby mutant you are if you can't even appreciate loveless

>>71761942
Thank god

I either want Kanye AnCo or Madvillainy to win

Kid Autism

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>>71761584
>>71761536
>>71761591
If you don't understand why Spiderland was so revolutionary then you probably don't know much about music

Pet Sounds is just as good though so I don't really care who wins

>>71762009
>revolutionary
Nobody even knows about Spiderland.

>>71761950
(You) made the right choices

>>71762009
No Pet Sounds is better.

>>71761977
Oh, I see. I think the post you were responding to was using "pleb" not as an indicator of popularity, but as an indicator of it being not a very good album. "Pleb" has been so overused that I think that the meaning is muddled at this point. I just voted for Flood because its a superior album.

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>>71762009
>Spiderland
>Revolutionary
If you think it's revolutionary, then you probably don't know much about music.

I like the record a lot, but it's not better than Pet Sounds, which in addition was actually revolutionary.

Reminder that most of the people voting just vote for albums they've heard which is why we're down to 15/16 entry level /mu/core albums.

Fishmans is our last hope.

>>71761971
meant for >>71761950

>>71761998
I would be floored if kanye beat ITCOKC even though I will vote for MBDTF

>>71761584
>within the last year or so it's been memed into being the top of /mu/core
90% of Spiderland threads are contrarians shitting on it

>>71761129
>STGSTV
>mediocre
wtf

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This close! You know it's better!

>>71762153
Nico really dragged down that album.

>reddit ruining everything

reddit com/r/Kanye/comments/61b314/mu_confirmed/

>>71762127
That happens anytime an album gets memed into /mu/core. It happened with Hospice, it happened with MBDTF, it happened with Sunbather, etc- over-saturation of both genuine and contrarian threads (the latter a response to the former). None of them are top /mu/core anymore.

>>71762153
Yes, LYSF is better, that's why it's winning

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>>71760902
Is this your feel?

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>>71762023
>>71762031
>>71762072
>highly influential in the development of post-rock and math rock
>the creative pinnacle of hardcore
>combining the raw energy of punk with the complexity and depth of prog and experimental rock
>unconventional riffs in odd time signatures that still manage to be hard-hitting and memorable
>highly technical, laser-precision playing without sounding like wank
>poetic and revealing lyrics with a unique delivery
>>>not revolutionary

>>71762072
not that anon but it was
no album did what it did before it.
you will not find a single song before spiderland, including talk talk, that did rock music like they did.
if you can i'll be grateful

>MBDTF actually winning

/mu/ confirmed patrician

>>71762153
Is it really an upset if Hand wins though? I don't know why everyone assumed Banana would beat it so easily, it's a long time beloved /mu/core album

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>>71762153
>The single worst album on that chart is beating the second best album on that chart.

>>71762211
>post-rock and math rock
Who cares about those genres. kek. Only hipster nerds.

>>71762243
Jesus, what a fucking great post. I suggest you go into other threads and make more like it, it'll really make /mu/ a better place.

>>71762184
>haha guys look at these wacky redditors I'm totally not a redditor myself xD
Fuck off

>>71762220
>you will not find a single song before spiderland, including talk talk, that did rock music like they did.
That's not what revolutionary means.

Lots of bands do something that no one has done before them. It's only revolutionary if it sparks a revolution, i.e. a lot of artists take that album and its sound and make new something from it.

Velvet Underground and Nico was revolutionary. Pet Sounds was revolutionary. Hell even OK Computer was revolutionary. Spiderland was not revolutionary.

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>>71762238

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>>71762269
>OK Computer was revolutionary. Spiderland was not revolutionary.

>>71762300
>Frogpost
Opinion discarded

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>>71762269
>Hell even OK Computer was revolutionary

>>71762269
How was OK Computer revolutionary? It's a solid album but I can't think of anything on it that hadn't been done before

>>71762269
>Spiderland was not revolutionary.
lol you're retarded if you think that any of those things compare to the absolute innovation and reconstruction of rock music that spiderland was. all of the records you mention are great, but none are as ridiculously innovative and unique as spiderland. not even in slint's discography. i can only even name like 3 songs that remotely sound like spiderland.

>>71762300
>>71762314
>>71762318
Bands of the mid 2000s guys. The entire alt rock scene 2005 onward was directly inspired by OKC.

Also Coldplay, though you could argue The Bends was more of a causal factor.

>>71762377
Influence =/= innovation, Oasis was just a rehash of The Smiths/The Beatles/etc. but they were influential

>>71762342
Ridiculously innovative and unique does not equate to revolutionary. Jesus Christ, how does that not get through to you?

it's also not as outlandishly innovative as you wish for it to be, either. Good, sure.

>both radiohead getting btfo'd by almost 20 votes
Didn't expect that. Let's see what it will look like at night though

Spiderland vs Pet Sounds and Velvet vs lysflath are adrenaline rushin!

>massive influx of madvilliany votes after it was 50/50 fot about 3 hours
Hmm, who would rig the most overrated hip hop release of all time /mu/?

>>71762403
Influence DOES => revolutionary.

Being ridiculously innovative is ggreat, but if it doens't reach anyone then it doesn't matter.

Likewise, reaching a lot of people is important, but if the music wasn't innovative, then the impact is minimal.

Think about Sgt. Pepper's. That album was undeniably revolutionary, but in terms of innovation it didn't do anything that hadn't been done in some form before by either The Beach Boys or Frank Zappa. It was still innovative, but the popular music platform the Beatles had made their album more revolutionary than more innovative records like Freak Out.

Yeezus is better than MBDTF

>>71762475
>50/50 fot about 3 hours
Of course AnCo fags will lie to make themselves feel better.

>>71762547
You're right, AnCo had a decent lead for 3 hours

>>71762451
>Ridiculously innovative and unique does not equate to revolutionary
>innovation does not equate to revolutionary
1. yes it does, you fucking retard
2. it completely changed not only post-rock (i would say building it from the ground up off of talk talk's last couple records) but also math rock and post-hardcore. you would be hard pressed to find musicians from any of these genres who say they aren't influenced by slint, or more specifically spiderland.
it's a complete milestone in rock music. again, find me a piece of music that sounds like anything off of spiderland.

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If ITAOTS doesn't win, everyone on /mu/ will die in a fire.
It will win.

>>71762211
idiot normie confirmed

>>71761202
Only the first three songs have any noise like that, do continue. That said April and the Phantom is fuckin' great you fug.

>>71762594
this t b h, i don't see anything else winning

>>71762594
Final will be RiL vs ITAOTS
RiL will win with a 6% lead
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>>71762168
how retarded are you irl anon?

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>>71760768
>Remain in Light is mu's favorite album.
Are you high?
TEAM ITAOTS

>>71762520
I think at this point we're just arguing over semantics, I always considered "revolutionary" to be a loose synonym to "innovative". And Slint *is* both innovative and influential, there are a ton of post-rock/math rock/post-hardcore bands that cite them as an influence.
>>71762599
Funny, I could say the same thing to you

>>71760383
>The Idiot crushed by eno: Ok
>Closer crushed by Discovery: Not Ok
>Low will be crushed by ITAOTS: Fuck no
>Kid A will be crushed by Kanye: Holy shit no

What the fuck guys? Aren't you guys supposed to have good taste? How Kanye arrived this far?

>>71762635
but you really are a worthless piece of shit though

>>71762586
>you will not find a single song before spiderland, including talk talk, that did rock music like they did.
I can't. That's because it wasn't revolutionary. If it were, I could point to something released since that resembles it. Sure, plenty of math-rock and post rock bands look at it favorably, but very few took anything from Spinderland and synthesized it into their sound. most sound much closer to Talk Talk and, on the math side, most sound closer to more traditional post-hardcore bands like Fugzazi and Jesus Lizard.

Innovation is just one factor you fucking retard. Exposure is just as, if not more, important.

>>71762664
I usually say dumb shit like this when I'm butthurt and clearly have no argument, sorry for your pain

>>71762635
>I always considered "revolutionary" to be a loose synonym to "innovative
Why? They're not synonyms at all.

>>71762664
Be nice.

>>71760768
I did nominate in rainbows but wtf
also wheres turn on the bright lights

in my opinion if another one of these tournaments happen please omit the 4 albums that make it to the semi-finals, or we'll just have the same albums winning for the next 4 tournaments

>>71762651
>Low will be crushed by ITAOTS
This is fine though
Low is 9/10, ITAOTS is 10/10

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>>71760432
>Kid A vs MBDTF

hardest choice of my life lads

>>71760491
>He claims to know Reddit's music opinion
>Implying he browses Reddit

You have to go back

>>71762760
MBDTF

Radiohead is garbage

>>71762698
>BEFORE spiderland
you complete and utter dumbass

The only remotely hard decision was Talking Heads vs HANL.

>>71762739
If someone remembers this next year I second this idea.

Also, Turn on the Bright lights should definitely be nominated.

>>71760383
Still salty Endtroducing is out. I hate everyone

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>>71760432
>madvillain over stgstv
>vu over gybe
>itcotck over fishmans
>spiderland over pet sounds

Welp. This is my last day on this board boys

>>71762842
Velvet underground is better than cuck post rock

>>71762790
>Not liking Radiohead

I went with MBDTF but c'mon man

>>71762742
>ITAOTS has something outside meme value

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UP AAAND OVER WE GO

>>71762799
I agreed that Spiderland was innovative. Again, innovative isn't the only factor to being revolutionary. So I guess I omitted that word instinctively since we both already agree it is an innovative album, but like this post points out

>>71762727
innovative and revolutionary are not synonyms

>>71762698
>very few took anything from Spinderland and synthesized it into their sound.
some of the most influential and important math rock artists took great influence from it.
>shellac
>unwound
>don caballero
this doesn't even include the MASSIVE influence it had on post rock (because it essentially invented it independently of talk talk, and had a completely unique sound)
>Exposure is just as, if not more, important.
figures you think ok computer is revolutionary you absolute moron

>>71762859
you have so much to learn...

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>>71762855
>Cuck post rock
What the heck does this even mean

>>71762698
>>71762799
>again, find me a piece of music that sounds like anything off of spiderland.
Is what I meant to quote. No before there.

>>71762866
Oh you're on of those retards
never mind then, fuck off

>>71762727
I hate to be that guy, but...
http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/revolutionary?s=t
>>71762698
I get the feeling you don't listen to much math rock or post-hardcore
>Shellac, June of 44, Drive Like Jehu, Polvo, Faraquet, Rodan, Off Minor, Unwound, 90 Day Men, Envy, etc.
You can see Slint in all of these bands. My theory on why post-rock isn't much like Slint anymore is that most post-rock fans are too weak to understand the crushing force of Slint and not good enough at guitar to play anything but shitty crescendocore.

Loveless vs ITAOTS
Who would you vote for?

I'd vote Loveless

>>71762887
Alright, then which album was more revolutionary: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, or Frank Zappa's Freak Out?

You'd be an idiot to say the latter.

>>71762903
Ok, that's fine then

>>71762842
>>madvillain over stgstv
That's good.
>>vu over gybe
That's also good
>>itcotck over fishmans
That's good too
>>spiderland over pet sounds
That's not good.

>>71762925
neither are revolutionary. freak out is definitely more innovative but sgt pepper is probably about 1.5-2x as influential.

>>71762893
I dont like the genre

>>71762915
In that case I suppose it's fair to assume they are synonymous musically. But I always figured innovation means doing something that hasn't been done before, while revolutionary carries some amount of exposure and influence behind it. Damn you thesaurus.

Oh well. Semantics it is.

I don't hear Slint at all in Drive Like Jehu, but each to their own.

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>>71762971
>Sgt. Pepper's isn't revolutionary.
OK then. I'm not even asking you if you find either record enjoyable.

>>71763003
it isn't innovative. i enjoy the record, and i think it's very good but it's by no means "revolutionary." you seem like the type of person to consider DSoTM the greatest album of all time behind sgt pepper, or just drone the rollingstone 500 list because either seems like it would suit you

>>71763003
Psychedelic rock was definitely in the musical mainstream before Sgt. Pepper. The Doors' first album came out almost six months before Sgt. Pepper and there were a ton of influential albums (Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Disraeli Gears, Surrealistic Pillow, Are You Experienced, Forever Changes, 13th Floor Elevators, Safe As Milk, Younger Than Yesterday) that came out before or around the same time as it. Stop falling for the Rolling Stone memes.

I tried Sgt Peppers because I figured I should give them a try at least once and it had a cool album cover. Then he started singing about beating his girlfriend and he sounded really jolly.

>>71760383

this poll is flawed/suck/meaningless/retarded.

>they think there is any difference between 4chan and reddit

>>71762975
post tfw no gf syndrome rock

>>71760432
VOTE FOR KID A YOU FAGGOTS

VOTE FOR PET SOUNDS

HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY LOSING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>All the saltiness in this thread
You guys realize this is just for fun right?

>>71763173
what a insightful and engaging comment

>>71763211
I voted for pet sounds but I don't mind if spiderland wins, that's a great album too.

MBDTF is overrated af though. Kid A >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MBDTF

>>71763119
>>71763132

I'm not talking about personal enjoyment, and again, I'm not saying Sgt. Pepper is as innovative as those records. But it was much more far reaching.

To contrast, I wouldn't say DSotM is revolutionary at all. It didn't do anything that previous successful albums didn't do, even if it sold millions. Similarly, VU&N was 100% revolutionary because it was fairly innovative and, even though it sold poorly, it heavily effected everywhere it touched.

I like how both of you went
>muh Rolling Stone
on that though. Again, I don't necessarily think Sgt. Pepper is in any way the most revolutionary album of all time, but it was revolutionary. Any artist of the 70s would tell you it affected their music heavily. The idea of the Concept Album wouldn't have taken off without it. Progressive rock would be very different without it. Piper at the Gates of Dawn couldn't have happened without it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuTMvpl1D_Q

If I find it's in another one I'll post it.

>>71763294
>I wouldn't say DSotM is revolutionary at all
Are you dumb?

>>71763294
>To contrast, I wouldn't say DSotM is revolutionary at all. It didn't do anything that previous successful albums didn't do, even if it sold millions.
that's sgt pepper you're describing
DSoTM didn't do anything new but it's incredibly important to the chronology of prog. it tied up all of the loose ends of the mixed bag that was prog at the time.

>>71763317
What bands made anything that sounded at all like that record?

>>71763294
They started recording Piper months before Pepper was even released, dumbass

>>71763327
no, the yes album tied up the loose ends

>>71763327
Tying up the chronology of prog? What does that even mean, and how does it equate to revolutionary?

>>71763328
why do you try to define how revolutionary something was by how many other records sound like it
are you actually retarded or something?
that's a stupid way of thinking about it because it leaves out completely unique sounding records that don't have anything that sound alike

>>71763334
Would Piper have been as successful without it? Would Pink Floyd have taken off? I don't honestly believe so.

>>71763351
It's not about how many sound LIKE that record, it's about how many took something from those records and synthesizing them. You can't really trace anything from DSotM to later records. And yeah, the number matters. Otherwise there's no revolution.

>>71763349
>Tying up the chronology of prog?
that isnt what i said you tard
i said that it tied up the loose ends of what prog was at the time. there are moments comparable to stuff like tangerine dream or cluster, and other moments that are comparable to out of focus or king crimson
>and how does it equate to revolutionary?
i never said it was revolutionary. i said it was important to prog as a genre.

>>71763405
Okay, then I guess I'm confused on why you talked about DSotM at all, since the argument was that it wasn't revolutionary. The fact that it was important doesn't enter into what we are talking about. But fair enough, regardless.

>>71763367
Considering the success of The Doors' first album ("Light My Fire" peaking at #2), yes, I think Pink Floyd would still be quite popular. This Beatles-centric narrative is revisionist and ahistorical.

>>71763456
Well, you could be right. It was still a pivotal record in other respects.

>>71760432
>Pet sounds losing to Spiderland
Actually very surprised. Oh well then.

>>71760383
the hardest choice here was picking between lift your skinny fists and tvu

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>>71760383
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12598118
Rip Fishmans I loved to see you get this far.

>>71763132
Why does everyone always forget Tommy and The Who Sell Out? :(

>>71760383
I'm sad that Ziggy got dropped so fast

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>>71763327
>DSoTM
>prog

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wew

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>yfw King Crimson quietly steals the lead and BTFOs all these pretentious avant-teens

Who's the Xavier of this bracket?

>>71763683
>so fast
>last tournament had 4 Bowie albums in the top half

>>71763700
COME ONE LULU YOU CAN DO IT!

On one hand, I hate post rock

On the other hand, where the fuck is White Light/White Heat?

>>71760432
>LOW vs ITAOTS -

Rip Bowie, you had a good run

>>71763783
Yeah seems almost sad, but sometimes you just out classed you know? Doesn't mean Low is bad just a tough ass bracket.

>>71763750
xavier

>>71763783
Low was fucked look at the rest of that Sweet Sixteen. Even if it managed to pull of the upset, it would have had to face OK Computer or Loveless. I don't think it would have beat F#A# either.

>>71763803
Low is infinitely better you cocksucking normie

>>71760383
holy shit that one section with MBDTF is absolute reddit-tier cancer

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i dont even care much for pet sounds but i refuse to let that meme shit of an album go any further. im still mad at /mu/ for suckering me into listening to that uninspired and lifeless garbage.

>>71762606
alvin row also has noise but overall this

>>71763883
what's your favorite album

>>71763883
suicide is an option you know? no one likes pet sounds haters

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>>71763731
i'm not huge on ITCOTCK but i'm so happy to see it BTFO fishcucks

>>71764029
I don't understand this comic

>>71763843
that's your (minority) opinion.

>>71764071
garfield stole john's pipe
2deep4u

>>71764071
Then can you say you understand anything at all?

>>71764075
aww he doesn't get it yet how cute

>>71764107
I know as a white male being a minority for the first time might be a little shocking to you but you'll get used to it ;^)

>>71764071
in the first panel you can see that nice young man trying to read the paper, and with his right hand he is feeling around for something that should be there

in the next panel he is contemplatively looking towards the reader wondering where his pipe went, and it then becomes clear that that's what he was looking for in the first panel. this is quite a plot twist because previously we did not know what he was looking for, so this revelation is akin to one finding out bruce willis was dead throughout all of The Sixth Sense

the man, obviously having encountered this kind of mischief before, reaches a conclusion to his problem: his fat stupid orange cat, who is presumably named Garfield, has stolen his pipe. and then smokes it. it's humorous because cats don't smoke pipes so it's like that one painting of those dogs playing cards. so we can see the man yell the name of his cat in anger and frustration, probably because he cant get his nicotine fix so now he's irritable

>>71764196
you call that a comeback faggot?

13 year olds on mu not getting bowie in 2017 lmao!

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guys
please dont let kanye win

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>>71760432
PLEASE HAVE MERCY

>>71763966
extension of a man.

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>>71760432
FUCK YOU JEFF

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>>71764303
I'm sorry Thom, but Kid A is not your best album. I voted for OK Computer though. It's a shame your albums got so tough brackets.

>>71764402
both are for normies

>>71763883
how fucking dumb can you be lol

>>71760432
HOW IS PET SOUNDS LOSING.

AND LOOK, MBDTF IS AMAZING BUT KID A IS SO MUCH BETTER


VOTE KID A


VOTE PET SOUNDS

>>71760432
Remain In Light is fucking overrated and I'll fight anybody who disagrees
Also
>STGSTV in the running for greatest album of all time
Guys it's a good album but seriously

>>71764485
VOTE MBDTF AND PET SOUNDS

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>>71760432
>Loveless beating OK Computer

WHY THE FUCK IS THAT BORING SHIT BEATING THE ALBUM OF THE CENTURY?

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Let white people win

>>71764504
WHY AM I SUCH AN IGNORANT PIECE OF SHIT WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THAT'S BETTER THAN LITERALLY EVERYONE'S FAVORITE ALBUM OF ALL TIME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>71764430
its mediocrity at it's best. i dont know how u guys have convinced ur selfs that it's a great album, let alone a classic.

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VOTE OK COMPUTER

>>71764529
>>71764530
today in normie opinions news...

>>71764504
this is what u get for letting it get past kind of blue kek.

>>71764525
WHY DO I KEEP SAYING I LIKE BORING HORRIBLE SOUNDING SHIT BECAUSE I WANT TO FEEL SPECIAL IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE EVEN IF IT MEANS LISTENING TO NOISY TRASH

>>71764548
>using normie as an insult

ill be keking in my dreams tonight it seems.

>>71763843
>Calling someone a normie while defending one of the most popular and well known artists of all time
wew

>>71764567
>noisy trash

yeah you don't get it just give up on music pal

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>>71760432
KAAAAAAANYEEEEEE

>>71764707
>>71764707
>>71764707

NEW THREAD

>>71762651
kanye is /mu/ newfag

>>71763883
actively disliking pet sounds is so fucking weird i wouldnt bat an eye if we just all up and decided one day to classify it as a mental illness

radiohead is for underage normies