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>>71635423
(definitely not the worst one this past week)

Hindemith conducting di Lassus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH9LXg-Ajgg

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updating intro to music copypasta. max 2000chars.

Medieval/Reanaissance
Guillaume de Machaut - Je vivroie liement ()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ti59NdbG1c

Baroque
>J.S. Bach - Bourree in Em (1712)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APNI2CC0k6A
>J.S. Bach - Jesus Bleibet Meine Freude (1716)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdkw7QLozss

Early Romantic
>Franz Schubert - Ave Maria (1825)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bosouX_d8Y

Late Romantic
>Pyotr Tchaikovsky - Walzt of the Flowers (1892)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxHkLdQy5f0
>Richard Strauss - Also sprach Zarathustra (1896)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RdZ7rO_cr0

Impressionism and Modern
>Sergei Prokofiev - Dance of the Knights (1935)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmq1cpcglQ
> Aram Khachaturian - Masquerade Waltz (1941)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPp3Qh-GRqs

I might swap the last out for sabre dance

good books on composing?

>>71665757
Before 1900, what kinds of music genres were popular? What did they call it? I am curious. For instance, what labels would have been given to the music of Mozart to define its style? Classical music is a poor label for what it attempts to describe.

>>71666348

Its sad that singing for men is now fruity as fuck instead of manly.

The singing military units were pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSXtXLAVgkE
based

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What are some essential /classical/ comfycore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1PzMs74-xg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_YUhob6aGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAJo9JvDWug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBY7V7axugc

>>71666348
A better question would be "what kind of music was popular with whom?"
What we call 'classical' music is music in the tradition of that made for the upper classes in the past (mostly aristocrats, but also rich burghers) and High Church music. The earliest name for the secular stuff was probably something akin to "court music". "Whatever the lords listen to."

>>71666560
>>71666348
This is a good breviary -- http://www.columbia.edu/itc/music/ito/history/

>>71666462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y7IwSbQWQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_rlk4H-DQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IoKkbO6Sdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7mjvbci0OM

>>71666441
Shit performance, as usual. Why do you think the orchestra completely covers up the piano when the più mosso section begins? Exactly, it's because Weissenberg can't play those passages to save his life. The cadenzas are even worse. The only one other than Rachmaninoff himself who could play this concerto is Horowitz when he was young (old Horowitz played it like rubbish).

>>71666807
>>71666441
Here, this is a proper performance of the No. 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CARUE500Zw
(Unfortunately several sections are cut from the recording.)

>>71666314
It's called picking up a pencil and then writing notes down on paper

>>71666314
take a course in music theory, the rest should be autonomous

>>71666887
jesus christ this is some fucking good shit

horowitz is the kind of pianist who, when he plays a piece, it's so fresh and innovative that it's as if you're hearing the piece anew again

>>71666807
Kastle please go

>>71667168
Literally who? No matter: I'm right, you're wrong. End of story.

>>71666607
All quite good, though I prefer Carmignola's version of BWV 1019 or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Proid60n4

>>71666807
>the only one other than [composer] himself who could play this concerto is [my favourite performer].
Very bad meme

>>71667398
horowitz is not simply just another [my favourite performer]

anyone who thinks that knows nothing about piano music. I don't there there ever has been or ever will be anyone like Vladimir Horowitz ever again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGp6Hs6Yro0

Busoni as a virtuosistic composer > Liszt as a virtuosistic composer

what's your favourite set of garbage music?
like a set of music that is absolute turd on manuscript, but you still like them for some reason

mine is schubert impromptus

>>71667463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7o3Q1lfII

yes

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>>71667549
Not sure what you mean but Westhoff's suites have some of the ugliest manuscripts of all time but they sound really nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34iZsGgufmg
>tfw you're so poor you have to copy your music yourself

>>71667556
Beautiful

Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm8YXPGxKyA

>>71668254
Who?

Rameau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFPw24UZZMU

>>71667733
Was Westhoff not aware that key signatures exist or what?

>>71666462
Do you have a link to a good full recording of the Sammartini sonata you can share?

>>71668976
That suite was in a minor lol. He just merges all clefs together like an autist.

>>71666462
my god the weebs are infesting everything.

>>71667453
Thank god for that. Horowitz is duller than my sounding rod

>>71669169
Sorry anon I can't find even a torrent of the album

Handel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFJkCN5T96U

>>71669847
Handel stinks. Wagner without the tonal ambition

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>>71670047
Yes, I am peeved. Not only are Haendel and Wagner nothing alike, it's also that neither stinks. But that's not why this situation is vexing. No, it's because the thread needs bumping and I must do it replying to the most low effort shitpost I've read all week. (It was that or the P____ meme, and I hate that meme. Such is the plight of autism.)

Well, ok, I lied. I'm actually really upset that you managed to piss on two great composers in such a pithy manner. But you're wrong, just so you know. There's more to Wagner than just the tonal innovations dammit. And Haendel's body of work is not derivative.

As penance, you will listen to the entirety of the Messiah, and like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-QF2DYVOjI

May God have mercy on your soul.

>>71670539
>>71670736
You're right

Salieri

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig2SzfWwLI4

>>71670980
"no
o
"

>>71670980
Wow, a 20 minute Folia?

>>71671194
>if I write more variations one of them is bound to be good!...

>>71671334
I'm about one third of the way through. He's being pretty conservative with the treatment of the theme. It's more of an exercise in orchestration than an exercise in composition.

i dont like chopin's mazurkas

>>71671485
The only Chopin worth listening are the Preludes, Etudes and Piano Sonata No. 2.

Maybe his Op. 60 and 61, and some of his Valses are also nice.

>>71671403
>It's more of an exercise in orchestration than an exercise in composition.
This ended up being the case all the way through. Both Corelli's and Vivaldi's variations do a lot more with the tune. I guess Salieri was experimenting with texture(?).

>>71672063
i should have post a better one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GQF4zAUtUA

Ralph Vaughan Williams is still the King of Hacks when it comes to variations though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD5TG8z3-SM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U6sWqfrnTs

>>71672170
Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utmr5jERCQ8

Villa-Lobos, meme or good composer???

Where can I find some decent writing on selected pieces of piano music?

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>>71672479
I like him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Mj6HBbvXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl9gARaZSow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgh8CzHPKok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGVfyKnL9-U

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>>71672170
>>71672232
That was ok. The orchestra is my favourite 'instrument' though, so I'm not that entertained by this other stuff. And by the by, my comment was descriptive only* (all variations consist, more or less, of a copy of the theme used as the main melodic line, with flourishes here and there). I actually enjoyed Salieri's variations more than either of Corelli's and Vivaldi's, in spite of their changing the theme in more pronounced ways.)

(*) Contrast that with how Bach uses the theme in the Peasant Cantata: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHK1Xhrh_sY
Now THAT is a variation on the folia, not just ctrlc+ctrlv.
>tfw you will never be this good

>>71673200
all his* (Salieri's) variations consist

>>71673200
Rachmaninoff's folia variations have the same problem (being mostly just a copypasta sequence with ornamentations). Few can develop a theme like Bach or Beethoven.

>>71666348
There were military marches and folk music.

>>71670047
Handel is way too soothing and not nearly grandiose enough for Wagner.

>>71673474
Wagner can be very smoothing sometimes as well. Take Parsifal.

Honestly, it's a bit TOO soothing. I'm always ready for a nap by the end of the first act, not because I think the music is boring, mind you, I'm just like, "Ah...that's nice."

Hindemith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1gk0p_De4w

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Ravel - Le tombeau de Couperin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkt8T38aaMw

What would a Schubert concerto have looked like?

>>71666147
This is all the most entry level pleb shit from every composer. Prokofiev has countless better pieces than Dance of the Memes

>>71666560
You used whom wrong loser

>>71670047
Wagnuh is worse than Handel though

Hey Classical
>>71674980

>>71675846
>This is all the most entry level pleb shit from every composer. Prokofiev has countless better pieces than Dance of the Memes
He should use Lieutenant Kije instead but what I think he is going for is entry level compositions for people interested in it.

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>>71675875
>He should use Lieutenant Kije instead
No. That's not a beginners Prokofiev piece. I would probably rec Piano Concerto 3 to best show Prokofiev's style.

>>71674336
he was fat therefore he sucks lol

>>71675846
>You used whom wrong loser
No he didn't, "what kind of music was popular with him?" is what you would say, if you can replace whom with him you've used it correctly.

>>71674336
I've been struggling with Hidemith for a while. The guy be like
>I don't give a fuck about nothing.
His music is fairly traditional, except when it's weird as bats in your soup, and he has a total disregard for smooth transitions (his modulations, if you can call the that, are what-the-fuck-are-you-doing tier; I can't grok his harmonic system at all). It sounds like musical collage.

>>71676099
Didn't see his comment mentioned Mozart. Grammar is gay anyways

>>71676158
Mozart being mentioned has nothing to do with it.
>Grammar is gay anyways
For whom? You and who else?

Zelenka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkcLgA9jd3g

What happened to that guy that posted his stuff for string quartet a few days ago? Did he finish it?

>>71676485
Probably poly

His music is shit

So there was this asshole the other day saying this wasn't the best Mahler 5th performance, because there was a trombone sforzando that wasn't loud enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn2J0_I1Ak4

Wow what a douche! s-someone please tell him to fuck off?

>>71676605
>not Giulini
>hmm.png
>not Wiener Philharmoniker
>worry.exe
>not Concertgebouworkest
>it's kaput.com
Yes, that definitely isn't the best performance of Mahler's 5th.

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>>71676605
>trombone sforzando
Da ist das problem

>>71676665
I don't think Giulini recording the Mahler's 5th

>>71676605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-_N8NYw058

>>71676665
>>71676851
Fuck I haven't slept in 27 hours. My mind is in a daze. We're talking Mahler's 5th? Yes the fifth. He didn't? God, I'm not sure. I really like his recordings of the 9th. He did those, I'm sure.
>>71676605
I know it, this is the very best Mahler 5 recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyF9M4V-xC4
This one
>>71677020
is interesting too. It's closer to what Mahler would have performed it like.

Hasse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzai9q6E0aU

>>71677225
stop posting shitty baroque composers that are better left forgotten

>>71677379
Ok I won't post Handel.

>>71677397
good he sucks too

>>71677020
Some instrumentally gorgeous details on this one, however it feels boring because it lacks development between sections, the flow is rather monotonous

>>71677186
One of the best sentimental performances, Fischer is more down to earth in that regard

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>>71677186

>lorin maazel

>good at anything except choking on his vomit

>>71677967
woah man easy

>>71675578
This with a very pretty slow movement beforehand and some sort of sonata-allegro opening movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-NgxuclzpE

https://youtu.be/KpOtuoHL45Y
Is this good liszt

>>71679214
>liszt
>good

>>71676545
>>71676485
not me. I've already finished 5 string quartets and haven't worked on one for a few years. Mostly keyboard fugues these days, and some other projects. Symphony needs scoring out too...

>liszt
>not good

>tfw you listen to Baroque-shit and the amazing relative minor-key 2nd movement ends and is followed by major key trash that sounds totally different
JUST

>>71676605
Those trombone notes (at 1:11 - 1:15) are flaccid as fuck though. Staccato block chords marked sf, and you can hardly hear them. Nothing asshole-ish about noting a conductor failed to accentuate sf notes. Sure it may be his "interpretation" but I don't like it, and by the look of the score, Mahler wouldn't like it either. If he had wanted those notes mp or mf, he would have marked them thus.

Anime
https://youtu.be/eJInGGAPZgI

>>71679353
fuck off poly, i knew it had to be you

>Mahler wouldn't like it either. If he had wanted those notes mp or mf, he would have marked them thus.
what do you know? mahler was notorious for never playing a piece the same way twice, he loved to change things around

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>>71679353

>>71679393
Usually you change things around until you get them just right, and that's the final version of the score - the one you publish.
Short sf block chords in the mid to high register of the trombones should stand out, they should have a bright, sharp sound. In that performance they barely register, and sound dull and lifeless. Thats going beyond "interpreting", into the territory of completely ignoring what the composer wrote.

Its a pity, his tempi were good and he was keeping the polyphony together well.

>>71679280
fpliu

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>>71679527
>Short sf block chords in the mid to high register of the trombones should stand out, they should have a bright, sharp sound.
I don't think sforzando refers to the pitch, in the Fischer recording you can clearly tell those trombone notes make a sudden change which is emphasized well enough

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>>71676605

>>71679628
>I don't think sforzando refers to the pitch
It doesn't, its about dynamics. The pitch of the trombones just show that it was intended to be a loud, bright sound. Otherwise mahler would have written either mf, mp, or had them play down an octave to allow them to blend and not stand out at all. But he didn't. He wrote very short block chords in the upper register of the trombones, with "sf" underneath. Those notes should be punched, prominent, bright and sharp.
sf is down to the performer, yes. But the conductor is responsible for telling the performers to play their sfs louder, and in this performance the conductor did not do that.

Its not much of a gripe, the different between mp and f or mf and f (a sf would at the very least be forte, if not fortissimo) is minor, but its enough to stand out for me. This is one of my favorite movements of any Mahler symphony so I tend to notice things, even minor things in the performance.
Abbado still stands as the best conductor of the 5th in the last 30 years imo. He gets everything right.

>>71679939
>bright and sharp
Those are pitch descriptors you keep bringing up

>it was intended to be a loud, bright sound.
The loudness is up for the interpreter, which can ultimately be the conductor.

Clearly the way the trombones are used in Fischer's performance is as Mahler intended, as they are obviously loud enough to point out a sudden change

beethoven bagatelles are all i need in life

Stop discussing Mahler, literally who cares

>>71680012
>bright and sharp
>Those are pitch descriptors
Nyet those are timbre descriptors.
Sharp could be a pitch descriptor, but I'm using it to describe timbre.

>they are obviously loud enough to point out a sudden change
Strongly disagree. They're hardly standing out at all. Limp, flaccid, ~mp playing of sf notes.
Its clear to me that the trombones aren't playing sf in that passage.
If you haven't at the very least studied conducting at university (I have btw) I'm not sure you're qualified to discuss this. I've seen conductors working in rehearsals, I've worked with orchestras and conductors to get pieces right (mostly my own). Lets just say my conductors sense was tingling when Fischer blatantly ignored Mahler's intent for sf notes. There's interpretation, and then there's negligence.

I'm done underrating Mozart. It has gotten me nowhere in life. Please, show me the true greatness of Wolfgang Amadeus.

>>71680433
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGvHN3fKUco

>>71680487
Eerily appropriate.

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>>71677379
>>71677414
>>71680171
>stop posting and discussing music in the /classical/ music thread
Y-yeah, l-let's shitpost instead.

Animenz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRQbVNzmCK0

Post your favourite Bach cantata.

>>71681037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkmTF2KX0B4

>>71681081
Do you prefer Harnoncourt to Herreweghe? Any reason?

>>71681037
Geist und seele wird verwirret.

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>>71681037
I've posted these before, but my favourite secular cantata is the BWV 202 --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOEbPrjuKXA
and my favourite church cantata is the BWV 170 --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIf-2mCKLqI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xf6zv4hNK8&index=1&list=LLwBAZNJjXUeKFNe8Iasqbnw

more like this? also what instrument is used for the drone?

>>71681346
Fuck, wrong link... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2zzpINYE_E
The Trauerode is one of my favourites as well (tied for 2nd for secular cantatas).

What's some non-bourgeois modern classical?

>>71681107
>>71681346
here; I don't like Harnoncourt for Bach at all. He is very lenient with the brasses, and he doesn't balance the orchestra, the choir, and the soloists well. They're cantatas, so the vocal parts should be prominent, but they often struggling for space in Harnoncourt's recordings.

>>71681356
fun fact: this is NOT classical music
anything pre-1600 is NOT 'classical'

>>71681406
fun fact: you're a faggot

>>71666462
I have no fucking idea what's with weebs shitting up classical music with their autistic "art".

Seeing a smug anime girl infront of shostakovich's 7th symphony is fucking ridiculous.

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>>71681356
Look into Philippe de Vitry --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtoYzKX-e2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOGbBjCTGWc
Random anonymous --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJuZEyesli

(The drone is from a hurdy-gurdy, or a similar instrument.)

>>71681406
see >>71681439

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>>71679346
iktfw

>>71675171
under appreciated piece.

>>71680171
>its another Mahler is a hack meme.

>>71680433
He made the greatest classical piece of all time nigga. The Requiem alone makes him a legend.

Let alone all the violin concertos, piano concertos, operas, symphonies, AND chamber music.

And then there's all the other concertos for horns and flute etc. Just listen to more of his stuff nigga.

>>71681439
seconded.


Dumping some neat shit that people might not be super familiar with:

>Ysaye Ballade solo violin sonata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLORGN9Ojzc

>Szymanowski quartet 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S8iXfxaK48
Sort of like late period shostakovich chamber work, good stuff.

>Dvorak American quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxtAHpYIXdU
Besides Ravel's, some of Beethoven's, and Shostakovich's 3, 7th, 8th, and 15th, this is by far my favorite quartet. Hell, it might even be better than all of those too.

>Glass concerto for Saxophone quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYkIrYh7zuw
One of the few Glass pieces that's worth a listen. First movement isn't long, and the harmonies between each saxophone is nice.

>Adams Chairman Dances:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvzdstfOlEE
Modern classic of minimalist variations, really great imo.

>Stravinsky divertimento for violin / piano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNMovi8gkU
Super underrated imo, its strangely modern somewhat still lyrical. Interesting.

>Gershwin piano concerto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDxKtkkbE7w
Jazzy as usual with some great brass, virtuosic piano work, fantastic orchestration and some neat harmonies imo.

>>71681625
>>71681439
art music =/= classical, you wasters

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>>71681356
>>71681570
It's a vielle according to the description of the video.

>>71681456
This, nothing against anime but I don't understand the need to inject it into every facet of their life

>>71681719
>the hair-splitting save
Nice try, faggot.

>>71681789
enjoy your mozart

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>>71681774
>I don't understand autism
The fuck are you doin' here then?

>>71681719
What the fuck is art music.

Classical music is just a convenient genre labeling term. I'm not about to talk about every single sub genre of classical as Renaissance, Romantic, Modern, Post-Modern, Minimalist, Impressionistic, Serial, etc.

I'd just say check out this "classical" music.

>>71681827
>sub genre of classical
huh, the classical tradition has 'subgenres'? that's too much internet for you today, kiddo

>>71681804
>>71681849
Get royally triggered:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJEZ4ODUuk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj5Bc8zwwU0

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>>71681937
>posting singer-songwriters and church music

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Leonard Bernstein's wikipedia page says he was buried with a copy of mahler's 5th over his heart. What recording of mahler's 5th was it?

>>71681977
The Cantigas are secular songs written by Alfonso the Wise, king of Castile. They're called that because all of them use Mary as a motif. Not even a fifth of them are actually religious.

>>71681984
Who cares? Bernstein was a mediocrity.

>>71681625
>Dvorak's American quartet
Everyone here should have already heard this at least once.

>>71681984
Are you an idiot? It was probably the score.

>>71676605
>>71679353
>>71679527
>>71679939
>>71680012
>>71680239
Actually, in regards to what Mahler intended, both of your preferred performances are wrong, since neither of them use the proper orchestral seating.

Check and mate

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>>71681849
I'm really sad to be associated with people that are semantic elitists.

Use the same fucking terms as everyone else and quit being a pedantic faggot.

>>71682153
Yeah, I just couldn't resist adding that.

Its just fantastic and its so brusque and energetic.

More underrated prokofiev: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_V4slqXqGM

Guy has steadily become one of my personal favorites.

>>71681827
>eras as genres
Hate this meme.
Almost as bad as the "Bach is Baroque not classical (lower-case C)" meme

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>not listening to HIP recordings

bohm's mozart can suck my fucking dick

>>71683377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo1TOgUM11o

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>>71679290
No it doesn't, trust me

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Paging the Baroque Brethren for help: what's the best L'Olimpiade version?

>>71680856
jeeze I'm working on it my relation

>>71682550

see

>>71681823

>>71680987
what a piece of shit. Its called easy listening. It shouldn't be posted here. That goes for Chopin as well.

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>>71683590
Concerto Italiano
https://youtu.be/a4MlqS4uGvc

>>71681823
>2 and 1/2 hours later
>nobody sperged over the fact that the image has a memegenerator watermark
I am disappoint.

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>>71683725
Grazie! If there are no second opinions I'll listen to it this evening.
What do you think of the Pergolesi and Galuppi settings?

>>71666314
Fundamentals of musical composition-Schoenberg. It's pretty good but as always learn from lots of different sources

>>71667008
>pencil. Its Called Sibelius, you cretin

>>71681719
Chansons like that are literally considered art music though.

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OH BOY MORE MUSIC FROM THE MIDDLE AGES

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>>71683807
Pergolesi just kind of sucks in general, and I don't like the bland style of opera that's so popular amongst gallant and post-gallant composers.
Galuppi's concertos are nice though https://youtu.be/D8S0Zkn4zBs

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>>71683493
Now you've made me curious to see just how bad (or not) it is
>>71679290
post some of your shit pussy, I dare you.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cdLuvGsjwlA

If I like schubert am I a fag?

>>71684394
No, you're a fag because you don't listen to the recordings you pick. Embed related is a much better performance, even if the animu triggers you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4_6AKJob78

dlozteP

If classical music is so complex, why are classical composers able to compose such a ridiculously large volume of it? Are symphonies really that inherently hard to compose if Haydn could compose over 100?

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*blocks your path*

>>71684881
They're trained in it. This is the dumbest fucking question I've ever read.
>mathematicians can do a lot of math problems so they're not hard

>>71684920
I'm willing to bet Mozart has at least let other men fuck his boipucci once

>>71684317
https://soundcloud.com/psllbof/sets/symphony-no-1

One could hardly call it a symphony

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>>71684920
Hmmm yes.... Quite succulent my dear....

Also;
HIP Mozarella
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxUK9bo-87g

>>71684929
Except that an exceptionally difficult problem can see someone spend years on it. Any hackneyed mathematician could hack away at relatively simple problems in one particular field and finish over a hundred of them in a 50 year career, but it's not as if even the most exceptional mathematicians are solving Riemann hypothesis tier problems left right and center and winning multiple fields medals.

>>71685108
>One could hardly call it a symphony
No shit! Uhhh... dude. That's pop music with synths, not classical. There no theme to any of the movements and no development. You only stringed a bunch of tunes together, added some cookie cutter orchestration, called it a movement, , rinse and repeat 3 more times and bam! you think you got yourself a symphony. And what's with the overbearing incessant percussion? You're supposedly writing music for orchestra, not drums kits.

I kindly request that you change the name of that shit to "orchestral samples", "video game battle music collection" or something like that.

03AI-r6f7s4fJL5z4_nTuzKD9G0hLbLt5PR8yFyWE1U0lNe9hPcikxCSlPr_KuX7bHUCrCl6B4gnjyZ56ybJKngj1apzsssYbG9h46F3jdKooWJ6THtRlqvOHhruEHZ7zmuY7S-bqGQaXC40CRywCVnA6Q9QUyhmCwbetWBOATqLQwBF8hjuph0mzIza1ZeK6KEA6zRarb0Ay_pzRMNW_OYKPB-DikH6HeZIJ0xWeoOyWb4zRMzN0O6Fk9XVV8S-MomkHsVvPoSEu6TMT3hHelTppQVXuHbR0RKUZZwXHPM-UzUqHr5HRMO_A

>>71685108
>anglos in charge of making music

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>>71685183
Why does every Mozart sound the same?

>>71685658
messed, up meant to ask what is the password to some of the recordings in general folder 2?

>>71685406
Woah there, hold on to your horses and tone down the hyperbole there buddy. No one said any piece of classical music was the result of a creative struggle as complex as trying to solve the Riemann hypothesis.

https://www.operaphila.org/backstage/opera-blog/2017/missy-mazzoli-female-composers-shaking-up-opera-world/
>Second moment of full disclosure: I actually detest lists of female composers. These lists are often presented with no context or curation, and amount to a list of names united by a shared gender. I often see, after some article about the dismal lack of gender equality in the music world, a well-meaning comment like, “There are lots of great female composers! Hildegard! Amy Beach! Joan Tower! Laurie Anderson! ” Which is nice, but tantamount to writing “There are lots of great female writers! Sappho! Virginia Woolf! Danielle Steel!” Sweet, but ultimately uninformative. I sometimes see my own name there, next to women I generally respect mightily but to whom I may feel a tenuous artistic connection. I’m left with a mix of ego-boosting joy in being recognized and the feeling that what makes me unique as an artist has been glossed over in the name of my gender.
Is she correct? Also rate her list.

>>71685858
Women aren't good at anything but giving birth and sucking dick andsouls.

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>>71685960
This

>>71685858
>Is she correct?
I could not care less if you paid me. That disclaimer is so damn self-defeating. She smells it in the air that people are getting tired of this nonsense.

>>71685858
Women composers and conductors are pure garbage.

>>71685994
>>71685858
She be like
>yo these things are so silly right? tehee :P
>why should anyone give particular attention to an artist just because they have a vagina? right? right? :3
>but here's the list anyway
>oh and btw, I have a vagina too, bbut don't pay attention to it ;)

Fuck women.

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>>71685975
>>71685858
>underrating

>>71686115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OERJAjoHRY

>>71686142
How did I'd know you'd post Lili Boulanger before I even clicked embed?

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>>71686115
>the opinions of women amtter

>>71686115
>>71686142
This is shit and you should be ashamed for liking it.

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<----- Everything that needs to be said on the matter.

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What'a bunch'a /mu/soggykNEETs.

Leo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIRPXpXSYv8

Pezel

>>71685737
pippo9

I like Women.

>>71686210
Because she (would have been) the greatest composer of the 20th century. It was a sensible thing to do on my part.

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What's some good Classical to listen too on acid?

>>71686675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPV9tfJNOvY

>>71686669
No, and no. It's because everyone likes a sad story. Men have a fetish for fragility. This cunt was so frail she died when she was barely in her 20s. She's become an idol (in the J/K-POP understanding) to most pussy worshippers into classical.

>>71686727
Dude, you post that march as a recommendation to ERR'THING? STAHP!

>>71684191
L'Olimpiade was neat. The casting was queer but fuck it. I think I'm going to check if there is an opera house nearby staging some Vivaldi in the next 6 months.
>Galuppi's concertos are nice though
Backlogged.

Oktophonie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePBB-NO8vKg

>>71683377
>listening to the melting pot of pure ideology that is HIP

>>71686798
what a moron. Listen to those sonorities. You wouldn't hear shit like the latter half of that movement again until Messiaen. Also I could give a shit about women. I'm an antinatalist :^)

>>71688636
Bull-fucking-shit.

Cherubini > Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0RBleeinXE

>>71688676
>>71688636
There are similar 'sonorities' in Mahler's unfinished 10th already. And Lili grew up with people like Satie among her family's close circle of friends. There is nothing especially unique about her music. That was the trend already. This is plain hyperbole from the usual pussy famished suspects and the SJWs (and associated loonie bins).

>I'm an antinatalist :^)
If you didn't have it yet, I hope your chemical castration gets botched. Get it soon.

Strauss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYBAoKtrX0U

>>71684317
Enjoy:
https://soundcloud.com/psllbof/sets/compositions

>>71682533
It would be nice if people used accurate seating, unfortunately modern seating is the standard and people don't really like messing with it, especially if there are multiple pieces in the programme and only 1 requires specific seating.
There's bound to be someone who's done Mahler with correct seating recently...

>>71689992
Chailly does it now. He didn't use to when he was with the Concertgebouw, but in all the Gewandhaus Orchestra recording I've heard, he's using the German seating

Haven't heard his Mahler 5th with them, though. It's on DVD or something

>>71689992
poly, why is your music so bad and gay?

Also, why are you so bad and gay?

>>71690183
is he gay really?
can I make friends with poly then?

>>71689017
Satie was an idiot who couldn't voice-lead worth a shit

I know we'll never win, but we should promote more /classical/ albums for the "Greatest Album Ever" tourney.

Is he right?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiehasty/hans-zimmer-slams-sexism-in-the-film-composer-world

>>71690585
>Zimmer
>The hack that created that damn horn blow from Inception, used in every damn trailer now
>The hack that rips-off himself every movie
>the hack complaining about a career that women are rarely, if ever, interested in
>his opinion mattering EVER
>Buzzfeed
Ya, nah.

which US concert halls have the best acoustics?
>inb4 Symphony Hall in Boston
I just went there. where else?

>>71690642
You know you could have just put
>Buzzfeed
and be done with it?

>>71690642
>The hack that created that damn horn blow from Inception, used in every damn trailer now
what, that was hemsey
http://zackhemsey.blogspot.de/2013/11/braaam-101.html

>>71690321
what? He was a master contrapuntist. It's clearly your problem if you don't get his humor.

>>71690684
Yeah, but then I couldn't post out my autistic hatred for Zimmer.

>>71690686
Huh! Well, the more you know... But let's be honest, if Zimmer didn't couple that sound with Nolan's blockbuster, would that sound still have the same amount of influence?

>>71690702
>He was a master contrapuntist
"no"

Fell in love with Schumann's Piano Quintet. Anything by Schumann that is as good as it? I'm just recently getting into Schumann.

>>71685737
it's always in the filename

>>71690812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrYAQkYaLnw

>>71690812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSiwMR3dBUY

>>71690777
'''YASSS'''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBIs29d1SHQ

>>71679353
I'm sure Mahler wouldn't have cared much about that detail if he liked the whole performance

I fact, I bet Mahler would go and edit the score after hearing it

>>71689992
>>71690099
In regards to Mahler in general...

American seating:

Abbado
Bernstein
Boulez
Barenboim (he uses German seating now)
Eschenbach
Gatti
Haitink
Inbal
Levine
Maazel (I think he uses German seating nowadays)
Mehta
Ozawa
Sinopoli
Solti
Chailly (RCO)
Dohnányi
Tennstedt
Fischer
Saraste
Shipway
Abravanel
Karajan
Stokowski
Bertini
Järvi (Weird, btw. He usually uses German seating, I think)
Schwarz
Horenstein
Maderna (most of the time)
Prêtre
Martinon
Bychkov
Scherchen
Wakasugi
Kondrashin
Jansons
Nelson
Ancerl
Kegel
Rosbaud
Sanderling
Barbirolli
Steinberg
Walter (tsk, tsk)

German seating:
Tilson Thomas
Zinman
Mackerras
Kubelik
Morris
Maderna (sometimes??)
Chailly (LGO)
Gielen (it was actually a performance of Mahler that made him adopt the seating, and he kept it thereafter)
Klemperer
Norrington
Hengelbrock
Swarowsky
Gergiev
Petrenko (take over Berlin, already)
Reiner
Gilbert
Jurowski
Runnicles
Nott
Sladkovsky
Barenboim (post CSO)

Probably missing a few. And in some cases there might be a conductor that has switched it up in recent years.

>>71691344
>Maazel (I think he uses German seating nowadays)
>nowadays
anon...

>>71691369
wot

>>71691063
lol this is putting me to sleep. Sounds like something you would do in first year voice writing

>>71691344
>Maazel (I think he uses German seating nowadays)
I don't think he sits anymore...

>>71691369
>>71691414
Kek. Didn't know he died

RIP

>>71691414
Maybe they buried him with his piano chair, he can sit for all eternity now

plen here, what's the difference between one seating and another?

>>71691405
well it's not Germanic firetruck counterpoint for sure

>>71691344
>German seating: Tilson Thomas
He has a flawlessly conducted recording of Mahler's 5th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc_fwjIr7wg [Embed]

My only nitpick is that the attacks sound too clean, takes rawness from the music. The interpretation is great though.

>>71685858
>bla bla bla Why isn't everything about me? bla bla bla

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>>71691685
Mostly how the string sections are divided up. The 'Modern' or 'American' seating was initially conceived by Sir Henry Wood in 1911 and then subsequently developed and popularized by Leopold Stokowski.

>>71691982
Is the difference audibly noticeable?

Caldara
https://youtu.be/IQyXI5mDHZ4

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>>71692088
We just really hate sitting next to non-violinists.
t. First violin

>>71692088
Yes. Very. Especially for music written before it was popularized.

Without the separation between the two violin sections, you can miss a lot of contrapuntal detail since they're homogenized. The playful interaction between the "two wings" of the orchestra is mostly lost. The modern seating sounds more lush, sure, but at the cost of balance and expression. Mahler's 9th is a pretty good example of this, where the string section builds from the right in the first three movements, and in the left during the finale.

Here's a few snippets where the spacial qualities of the split violins come into play:

Classic:
https://f.lewd.se/skX5Au_example1.mp3
Modern:
https://f.lewd.se/yO7Nct_example2.mp3

Classic:
https://f.lewd.se/gkFsfk_example3.mp3
Modern:
https://f.lewd.se/ZXiKUA_example4.mp3

>>71692813
Opps. Reverse those first two examples, example 1 is Modern, example 2 is Classic. 3 & 4 are correct, though.

Are there many really good orchestras, performers or conductors who don't record performances out of principle?

>>71692882
Sokolov

>>71692882
Some don't like studio recordings, but they inevitably get recorded anyway since live recordings are simply a byproduct of most public performances

>>71692813
I kinda like the modern orchestra better

HIPness is overrated and Mahler would agree

How many iterations of this thread and there's still no bibliography? It's like you don't want people to understand what you're talking about.

Also, out of curiosity, how much work is there scored for only soprano and double bass?

Fill in the blank /classical/.

"9 times out of 10, when I hear a bad recording, ________ was conducting."

My answer is John Eliot Gardiner.

>>71692882
Not many anymore. Historically there were quite a few of really the best musicians who saw recordings as a fairly sterile experience compared to the live environment, which I don't disagree with.

>>71693047
I don't [mind] the modern seating, but its inferiority is abundantly clear when it comes to music outside of the 20th century. Most prominent composers wrote their works with the divided string section in mind, and that much is clear whenever you listen to the pretty big differences between a recording utilizing a modern seating, and a classic one.

And all of the recording I posted pre-date HIP. They're just from conductors (Kubelik, Klemperer) who had their heads in the right place regarding balance.

Thankfully the German seating is becoming more popular again. There are more conductors picking it up.

>>71693107
Roger Norrington.

>>71693107
Dudamel

>>71693047
>i speak for composer X because muh preferences
lol dude

>>71693179
Richter absolutely hated recording in the studio iirc

>>71693271
Yes. As did Monteux and many other 20th century performers as well.

"You may give an excellently played, genuinely felt performance of a movement, but because the engineer is not satisfied because there is some rustling at one point, so you do it again and this time something else goes wrong. By the time you get a "perfect" take of the recording the players are bored, the conductor is bored, and the performance is lifeless and boring. ... I detest all my own records."
-Monteux

>>71693068
I see this request from time to time so fuck it here are some random books I uploaded for the fuck of it. Maybe I'll organize it better later. Add it to the OP from now on anyways.
https://mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw
>>71691344
>Petrenko
Haven't listened to this meme. What recording(s) would you tell people to listen to?

>>71693271
Mahler re orchestrated Schumann's Symphonies and Beethoven's 9th to fit the newer orchestra, even adding new instruments to the score

>>71693270
Has he conducted that much though? At least on recording

>>71693383
The only Petrenko performances I've heard have sadly been live! I don't think he's recorded very much.

I can give you a few of his broadcasts, if you'd like?

My folder includes:

Tchaikovsky 5th Symphony
Strauss Vier letzte Lieder
Mahler 4th Symphony
Stravinsky Violin Concerto (w/ Julian Rachlin)
Scriabin 3rd Symphony
Zemlinsky Lyrische Symphonie
Korsakov Scheherazade

>>71693510
>I can give you a few of his broadcasts, if you'd like?
Sure, that'd be cool.

>>71693510
I'd like to hear that 4th, he's jewish so he's already halfway through being good at Mahler

>>71693540
The Zemlinsky and Tchaikovsky specifically.

>>71693542
>Mahler 4s other than Mengelberg
Haram desu

>>71693584
Fischer's 4th is really something else, extremely nostalgic, and the fourth movement is so amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAJ8fnwJPaM

>>71693401
Mahler died before the modern seating was initially conceived, though. And it wouldn't be developed and later popularized until Stokowski did so years later. Sir Henry Wood initially devised it for the proms season of 1911, and Mahler died one month prior.

When Mahler reorchestrated Schumann's and Beethoven's symphonies, he was doing so for a modern orchestra in the sense that it was larger. It had nothing to do with seating at that point in time.

>>71693540
>>71693542
Alright, it'll take awhile because my uploading speed is piss

Meanwhile my ESL friend in a 3rd world country can upload at 4000kbps

>>71693637
By adding newer instruments however, showed he didn't care much if that was the exact timbre that the composer conceived the work for

In that sense, the newer seating has its advantages and disadvantages but it can be preferred many times

Mahleranon what do you think of Des Knaben Wunderhorn and Mahler's other miscellaneous not Das Lied von der Erde songs?

>>71693726
For Schumann's, it mostly concerned dynamics. And it wasn't really unprecedented to re-orchestrate a Schumann work, since a lot of conductors/composers had a poor opinion of his orchestrating abilities.

You're right about Mahler taking significant liberties with compositions, even his own, but he was fairly harsh on conductors who couldn't keep up with his own abilities. Hell, he was hard on Walter (who has a very different style to Mahler) and he was very good friends with him. Allegedly Mahler wanted Mengelberg to conduct the premiere of Das Lied, but Walter got the job. Alma was pissed.

>Dearest friend,
>I am desperate with Gutmann's tactlessness, and with what he has again done. First he led me to believe that Walter was out of the question... the very thought that he has any right! It gives me enormous pain to think that you shall not be baptizing the work. I had expected *everything* from it."

Mengelberg was really the only conductor that Mahler felt comfortable with in regards to performing his works, after all. So it makes sense.

So, yeah. Mahler; liberal when it came to other composers, but picky when it came to his own compositions.

Of course, I'm not saying that every performance with modern seating is invalid; in-fact, I think most of my favorite performances utilize the modern seating (my favorite 9th, Maderna's, does), but it would be nice if we had more options in that category. Just as it would be nice if we could get a conductor that utilized butt-loads of portamenti like we knew Mahler did (I'm looking at you, HIPsters. Especially you Norrington. Yeah, go ahead and use Walter's 9th as a reference for your own, and then conveniently ignore all the string portramenti therein. You brainless oaf.)

>>71693804
The only Mahler I don't like is the 6th and the finale to the 7th.

>>71693804
I'm pretty sure there's a few Mahleranon's here

The Des Knaben Wunderhorn is really the backbone of the 2, 3 and 4th symphonies. He used the song "Urlich" as the 4th movement of his Second Symphony and he composed his Fourth Symphony based on the song "Das himmlische Leben", both from that songbook

Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen is what he based his 1st Symphony on.
Kindertotenlieder is an eerie piece he wrote about the death of children at the times, coincidentally his own child died four years after.

>>71694055
>not liking the 6th
I'm listening to it right now, it's amazing. Levi is so good in this one.

>>71694191
Maybe I'll like it someday. I listen to it once and awhile but it has yet to grow on me.

Who's that one baroque composer that doesn't have most of his works existing to this day
I think his son arranged one of his most popular pieces for him. Anyway, someone posted it some months ago and it was great. I forgot the composer's name though

>>71694220
Berg and Webern were so blown away by it when it came out that they agreed it was "the" 6th (apart from the Pastoral)

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I came to this thread as I was listening to the 6th, then I saw this:
>>71694191
>>71694289

>>71694258
Antoine Forqueray?

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>>71694258
Albertini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz5i_0nr2YM,
this is his only surviving work, or
Erlebach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLmyzeIWWYs,
most of his work was destroyed in a fire.

>>71694466
>>71694579
I don't think it was either of these, but these are great too.

Albertini kind of reminds me a bit of Biber? Maybe? I dunno.

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>>71694770
I agree with you. Their sonatas have roughly the same structure and instrumentation, and Albertini also writes a lot of fast passages like Biber. It's not unthinkable that Albertini took inspiration from Biber given how famous Biber was.
Could you give me a hint as to who you're asking about originally?

>>71694435
based

>>71694862
Sorry, that's all I got. I know it's pretty vague though. If I remember anything else I'll let you know. I might just go digging through the archives.

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I absolutely need this, and cannot find it anywhere, does anyone here have it?

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>you will never again witness the NHK Symphony Orchestra performing Mahler's Sixth Symphony

>>71693540
>>71693542
>>71693704
https://mega.nz/#!6McAxbQb!XI-N7XMfSgaXF_837Xoqpj2DwuSqrJyDCdoNY6JPUEk

Here are all the broadcasts I have of him. Untagged because I haven't added it to my media player since I haven't gotten off my ass to make artwork for them

>>71696086
>1.8 GB
I don't think Mega let's you download such big files unless you wait like a 6 hours queue

>>71696172
Huh. Really? Don't think I've ever had any issues with downloading big files.

Well, shit. Guess I'll upload them in separate parts some other day, then. Going to bed now, though

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What do you guys think of Bach on accordion?

>>71696086
Based Mahleranon

Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxEXiUG0_tM

>>71696172
I've downloaded >5GB games from there before without any issues, Mega is fine.

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How the fuck is counterpoint even possible to write?

>>71696908
Stick to consonant intervals on strong beats. Handle dissonance carefully, learn the rules, look at examples, analyse the scores of masters.

There are video tutorials out there if you cbf working through fux.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcqrGLvs95M&list=PLD30417EED8560721

>>71696956
I thought dissonant intervals were forbidden

>>71691982
>>71692813
>>71692859
Thanks for that interesting write-up. Never noticed this before, I love how the violins jump around in Ex. 3.
Now I think this is gonna bug me lol, gonna try to look at for it more in recordings

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0tB4Nii2GQl
What violin piece was this?
Thanks

>>71696983
You can use dissonance as long as you prepare it and handle it carefully. Things like passing notes, neighbor notes and suspensions are some of the most common ways to handle it. Obviously you can't use dissonance in first species.

Some intervals are more dissonant than others and to be avoided or only used if you want to say "fuck the rules" Things like tritones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterpoint
http://www.music.ucsb.edu/faculty/rothfarb/courses/103/Fourth_Species(2v).html

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Name of this song?
The only thing that I know is that sounds like neo-classic music:
https://www.youtube.com/v/b5rfHYOrOnU

Mozart's Coronation Mass >>> Beethoven's Missa Solemnis

Buxtehude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YiCEBZWv0w

Which composer do you have dreams of?

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>>71693804
I'm not that big on Mahler (of the post-Wagnerian symphonists I prefer Bruckner) but I like his setting of Des Knaben Wunderhorn quite a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvgiN0MvKo4

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>>71699673
Lili Boulanger. I dream of exhuming her and licking her rotten frigid pussy.

>>71700731
Whoever makes the new OP, don't forget to include the bibliography folder that anon was kind enough to compile . It's a decent list.

Maybe we can talk about expanding it? What other books would you recommend?

>>71701040
anon's folder
>>71693383

>>71699673
I dream of ravishing Vivaldi's boypussy

Should I listen to /classical/ without knowing music theory? Will I experience it properly and get everything out of it?

>>71702169
>Should I listen to /classical/ without knowing music theory?
Yes.
>Will I experience it properly and get everything out of it?
That depends on your inborn musical acuity. You probably won't be able to hear all the nuances within, but learning musical theory will not help if you don't have the ear for it. The only way to find out is to listen. It's music.

>>71702341
I notice most of(if not all) instruments. But is there something you can do to develop your ear for music?

WHERE'S THE NEW THREAD??

>>71702409
The same way you develop any skill, through attentiveness and repetition. When you listen to music, don't let it play in the background. Pay attention to it. Over time you slowly build up your own acoustic lexicon. You start noticing the details.

And then you hit your glass ceiling.

How do you guy chill out between practicing sessions?
I usually practice on the piano for 1 hours, do absolutely nothing for another hour and then start again. Could things such as meditation or short naps make that necessary pause shorter?

>>71702425
Here you go faggot.

>>71702724
>>71702724
>>71702724

Maybe you can make it yourself next time instead of crying for it? How's tat thought?