/gg/ Guitar and Bass General

rip rosewood

nobody will miss you, you ugly cunt

https://reverb.com/news/new-cites-regulations-for-all-rosewood-species
>tfw no more rosewood fretboard guitars from China
>no more from Korea
>no more from Mexico
>NO MORE FROM JAPAN

pedal general when?

>>70067176
>no more rosewood fretboard guitars
The future's bright, boys

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>>70067178
pedal general now
post your favorite pedals

>>70067206
>Gibson starts using Richlite for their standard series
>Fender starts using a more maple, maybe even Pau Ferro
>more ebony almost everywhere

Y E S

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>>70067208
Post /starter pedals/core

>>70067258
>more ebony almost everywhere
Haha don't count on it

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>>70067264
oh we /starter pedals/ now

How does the fretboard change the sound if the vibrating string doesn't come into contact with it?

>>70067258
>>more ebony almost everywhere
not gonna happen

>>70067272
>>70067301
Actually yeah, probably not

maybe they will use Black Limba(aka Korina) for fretboards now too

>>70067294
it comes into indirect contact with it

on electrics? it doesn't change the sound because nothing wood-wise does really

on acoustics? it probably still doesn't make a big difference

>>70067289
Never tried tube scream, is it worth its meme status?

>aesthetical option that barely matters becomes more scarce
>people go apeshit over it

>>70067330
for a lot of people it's a standard pedal, but i've always preferred an OCD over any of the tube screamers ive heard

>>70067294
>when you pluck a string
>the neck and fretboard don't vibrate
lol

>>70067320
>indirect contact

what did he mean by this?

That the fretboard touches the fret/nut, which in turn touches the string? seems silly and inconsequential

>>70067364
Welcome to /gg/

>>70067377
Never tried that either, I use OD or fuzz, but not much distortion

>>70067391
If you think the neck of the guitar sympathetically vibrating is going to affect anything, let alone be picked up by the pickups, i strongly urge you to kill yourself

>>70067409
yeah that's what I was getting at, it is inconsequential though, tonewise it does nothing and rosewood was used because of cost

well, that and maple/ebony are harder to work with

How do I not make the pentatonic scale sound like shit?

>>70067391
>he thinks the amount of vibration is enough to have any influence back through the strings and into the pickup or even funnier, through the frets into the fretboard into the neck into the body into the bridge into the strings and into the pickups

literally l-ing mao at your life

>>70067450
this, anyone who says the fretboard material is anything more than a look/feel thing is retarded

>>70067102
I sounds great but I'm thinking of getting a Super Distortion for the Maiden/Motörhead tones. But only after getting an MXR distortion and EQ

>>70067472
use a metronome and solo over a progression

>>70067472
add the blues notes

>>70067472
mind where in the chord progression you play each interval

>>70067506
if you want to do literally anything but play that type of stuff i'd recommend going with Duncans over Dimarzios any day

>>70067472
Phaser and fuzz and just the right amount of echo/delay

>>70067549
>disguising your ignorance/lack of ability behind gimmicks

>>70067608
I'll take what are guitar pedals for $100? Please Jeremy

>>70067442
>>70067480
>how the neck does (or does not) vibrate has no affect on a guitars sound
lol this is precious

>>70067608
yeah why even play an electric, it disguises mistakes so easily

just play acoustic, or even just nylon classicals, heh yeah! im totally not a fucking idiot

>>70067544
Why? Dave Murray uses Hot Rails now and sounds great, but in the 80's he and Eddie Clarke used Super Distortions, and I love how they sounds.

>>70067631
Please take a physics class

>>70067641
dimarzios sound terrible clean, every time i've heard or used a guitar with any dimarzio it sounded tinny compared the Duncan equipped guitars I have

So I've been playing for about 4 months now and I think finally able to start to play songs. What songs would you recommend for someone who finally learned Enter Sandman

>>70067668
Anything by Nirvana

>>70067668
M A S T O D O N

>>70067628
>>70067632
If anon can't make a pentatonic sound good clean, no amount pedals will help. But of course, upon asking what, where and how to play to sound good, anon gets the proverbial "try it out with X piece of gear" response, which is this general in a nutshell: always more concerned about gear than actual music.

>>70067654
>pluck a string
>string vibrates
>neck/fretboard wood interacts with this vibration (it's called a fulcrum, pivot point or support on which a lever turns in raising or moving ... btw)
so a strings vibrations don't have anything to do with an electric guitars tone?

>>70067748
the pivot point is the actual fret you ass, not the fretboard

>>70067668
Master of Puppets

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do humbuckers sound worse in a strat because its made out of alder/ash instead of mahogany?

i think i am starting to come around to the strat body contours, but love the sound of duncans in mahogany. i am wondering if i can bridge the gap.

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US sellers on reverb
>The scarf joint at the headstock snapped at one point, and the paint on the body have completely chipped off. These are completely cosmetic so I'm only knocking off 10% off of what I bought it for.
>Guitar arrives smelling like cigarettes with some damage not mentioned in the listing

Japanese sellers on reverb
>There's a hairline scratch on the back anf I lost the tags so it's 50% off.
>Guitar arrives in perfect condition and the seller slips in a handwritten thank you note and some green tea kit kats.

>>70067786
lol no

wood doesnt matter in electrics

>>70067776
>the pivot point is the actual fret you ass, not the fretboard
nope the pivot point would be the neck joint. I noticed you found a way to avoid answering the question though

>>70067826
>wood doesnt matter in electrics
this is wrong

>>70067289
I have a tone-lok TS, is it the same deal?
>>70067430
OD and fuzz will give you all the dirty tones you need, unless you're playing metal or some shit like that, if that's the case you just need distortion

>>70067795
>green tea kit kats
>not hokkaido melon and mascarpone

fucking nips

>>70067854
Noise rock/pop punk/sorta hardcore

Listen to PUP and then imagine it a little heavier, nailed my tone perfectly

>>70067829
Any sympathetic vibrations felt by the neck will be dampened by the weight of the wood and the fact that you're touching the neck. Any residual sympathetic vibrations will have no effect on the vibrating string, and thus, no effect on the tone.

honestly the inlay shape makes a difference in the tone more than fretboard wood type

>>70067991
uh no

>>70067472
git gud

>>70067854
>unless you're playing metal or some shit like That, if that's the case you just need distortion
boost + high gain amp sounds better in most cases than a straight up distortion pedal, and will be more versatile.
The only case where I would not consider that is against a Boss HM-2, since it sounds really wild.

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If /gg/ is the only reason you even bother with 4chan anymore gimme an aayyyyyyyyy

>>70067330

While the OCD is definitely better, the Tubescreamer has never really been a meme. It has to be bullshit to be a meme, it's totally got it's uses, especially for throwing in front of higher gain amps.

>>70068092
nah, I just go on slower boards and sometimes shitpost on /mu/
but ironically

>>70068092
No

>>70067786

The amount of material matters far more than the actual material. Hardtail into a solid chunk of fucking wood versus a few contact points on a trem to a plank.

>>70067628

Who the fuck is Jeremy?

>>70068154
yeah i was talking hardtail in all cases

>>70068188
You're being silly Jeremy

>>70068092
I mean it's the only reason I come to /mu/
The rest of this board is trash

Should I buy a hardcase? Hardcase general when?

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Can anyone recommend me some good budget guitar amplifiers that have good distortion channels for under 200 bucks? I've tried some out and listened to demos and they all do clean fairly well, but the distortion sounds like shit.

>>70068281
Blackstar

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>>70067742
I love more mellow backing tracks and can play around using A minor and C major scales. I can the pentatonics too but when it comes to more rock stuff I just can't play it.

I don't know if it's something wrong in my playing or I just don't enjoy noodling too much.

>>70068092
Yeah though it's starting to become the same things over and over again like other boards.

>>70068249
what guitar?

>>70068319
Forgot to post the backing track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ztjk8fk_FI

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>>70067208

>>70067931
wrong. even with your hand on the neck the neck is still vibrating. anybody can test this right now for themselves
>vibrating neck=affect on string vibration=affect on the guitars tone

>>70068304
>>70068281
yep. blackstar

>>70068370
Fender Telecaster custom

>>70068425
Just bend the neck

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>>70067377
>mfw bandmate has an ocd and tubescreamer on his pedalboard and he gives me shit for ordering a phaser

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>>70068249
>his guitar didn't come with a fitted hard-case

>>70068281
>>70068304
Got a Blackstar, I cant play on OD channel past volume one, it blows up my flat

>>70068497
I run a bunch of OD pedals through my OD channel with the volume at 12. what's your excuse?

>>70068471
do it

>>70068524
I don't want to get kicked out my flat???

>>70068526
Ehhhh, I know I should but at the same time ehhhhhhh

>>70068524
He's not using a 1w amp

>>70068425
But not enough to feedback into the strings, or else your guitar is now a perpetual motion machine

>>70068550
Do you take your guitar anywhere?

>>70068587
Not quite. I'm a physics major though so I can enlighten you.

Different densities in wood affect how much string vibration energy is lost when you pluck a string. A higher density wood will reject the string energy transfer into the body/neck (this is called internal stress) and thus the string will vibrate longer. With that being said keep in mind two pieces of wood from the same tree would probably sound different due to slight differences in density. It would be very hard to attribute a sound to a certain species of wood.

Also keep in mind a higher density neck will resist the physical pull of the strings and thus stay in tune better. This can also be achieved with multi-piece lamination's which is common on 8 string necks for example.

When a manufacturer uses the misleading term "tone wood" they're really referencing a word that a luthier would use to describe a piece of wood that rings out a specific note when tapped. A piece of wood like this would usually be used for an acoustic rather than an electric guitar though.

Is the wood that your electric guitar is made of as important as your amp, pickups, etc.? Obviously not, but the idea that the wood used in an electric guitar has no effect on it's overall sound is wrong.

>>70068610
Open mic, hoping to start a band and go gigging this year

>>70068550
why did you even ask. holy moley

>>70068661
I'll buy one, what one should I get?

>>70068635
You make some great points, and I've got some questions for you. Since this discussion was focused around fretboards, what's the difference in density between maple and fretboard, and how does that change the overall density of the neck?

>>70068635

>physics major
>first semester student throwing his pretend clout around

>>70068638
Then yes, absolutely do it. That's a $1500 guitar you're lugging around in a piece of fabric

>>70068638
>guitarist being able to find a rhythm section to start a band

kek good luck with that

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Name ONE (1) guitar that isn't a meme guitar

Protip: you can't

>>70068757
Closer to $500 according to ebay but yeah, I'll buy a case

>>70068883
Anything Squier

>>70068891
Oh, it's MiM, still though.

>>70068925
Yeah yeah, It's a lovely guitar, and I don't want to get it broken and all

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How to improve this
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>>70067795
>buying a used japanese guitar
>chance it was owned by a qt japanese guitar playing girl
>buying a used american guitar
>it was most definitely owned by some faggot

goddamn

>>70068725
That depends, you're actually asking about overall stiffness. A solid maple neck may or may not be more stiff than a maple neck with a rosewood fretboard, but a maple neck with a rosewood fretboard is technically "laminated" and that should ensure stiffness.

As a rule of thumb you will get a sharper/brighter attack from a maple fretboard and a slightly darker, more round tone from a rosewood fretboard. Rosewood is an oily wood and that oil has a tendency to absorb certain frequencies and dampen the overall tone. Maple isn't an oily wood and is usually very stiff, but it shows wear easily.

Don't listen to the people who'll tell you fretboard material makes no difference, it's just a popular misconception that's taken hold on theinternet.

How do I find people to play with. I really want to try playing with at least a drummer and a bassist.

>>70069053
>Go to local guitar store
>Put up a poster saying "I play X, I am looking for Y & Z, will provide free beer & pizza"
>????
>Profit

>>70069053
Become a drummer or a bassist. Guitarists will always outnumber them ten to one.

>>70069033

It makes a difference if you're a computer.

With some overdrive and played at show volume you couldn't tell shit.

All this talk about density is conversational masturbation, it doesn't show any real effects anywhere other than analyzing sound waves.

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where can I get this

>>70069033
I feel like fretboard material is a distant last place, behind pretty much everything

>>70068092
>Not getting drunk and participating in /r9k/ normie holocaust threads on Friday nights

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Post your pedalboards?

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Do analog sim plugins like the Virtual Mix Rack and Virtual Tape Machines do anything besides make it sound like low bitrate?

do people here really not have any musician friends? or even know anyone who plays an instrument?
I have been able to form 3 bands in the past 4 years, only one member who wasn't me has been in 2 of those.
can't you just ask someone you know to jam?

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>>70069317

>>70069179
>>70069202
Well, it makes a difference if you can actually hear. Being able to hear is a prerequisite though.

That's one of the reasons I think this misconception has taken hold actually. There's a hearing loss epidemic among younger people now. I'm always shocked when I go the the theater and the sound is so loud, but they have to turn it up like that because young folks can't hear it if they don't.

I believe it when someone under 30 tells me they can't her the difference between a maple and a rosewood fretboard, it's almost certain they really can't.

>>70069371
Tell me about the polytune, did I get meme'd not buying it

>>70069346
The only person that I know who plays an instrument is my dad

>>70069185

Yahoo Auctions
Ishibashi

idk maybe Reverb?

>>70069388
not him, but i just got a used TU3 that i like a lot

really hard to beat imo for $50

>>70069346
>do people here really not have any musician friends?
do you know where you are.jpg

>>70069346
>can't you just ask someone you know to jam?
Sometimes it just plain doesn't work.
Have you ever tried to jam anything but punk/hardcore/easy metal with a punk ?

>>70069346
Finding a rhythm section is always the hard part

>>70069388
>>70069417

Been through two TU-2's. Had that polytune 6 years. Get a polytune if you want a tuner that doesn't fucking break all the time.

>>70069346
honestly not a lot of people i know play / still play music.>>70069442
whats the best polytune? arent there a bunch of other models? ill get one of those if my TU3 breaks

>>70069346
I do, but they all live in different states at the moment. It's very upsetting desu Sempai.

>>70069461

Dunno, that one's either a polytune 1 or 2? I don't know the difference. i just know it is crazy durable.

Recommend me some pedals for shoegazing, /gg/.

I currently have a TC Electronic Flashback x4 a Dunlop Crybaby a MXR Phase 90 Script. What else is essential? (Planning on getting a Big Muff or Pro Co Rat)

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>>70069317
Ok

>>70069537
Boss DS-1

>>70069537

If you want to shoegaze and don't have a fuzz that should be priority #1. Figure out if you're more of a muff or a fuzz face guy.

>>70069537
i have a bass big muff and a swollen pickle, i want to sell the both

looking at noisemaker crush fuzz or donner party for now, maybe a black arts pharoah

>>70067206
kek I see what you did there

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>>70069418
come on, I know the whole
>waah im pathetic tfw no friends
thing is accepted here but even I, a literal neet, have multiple musician friends and play in a band.

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>>70069317
I kind of want to get a fancy ~300usd delay, but I love my memory man quite a bit. I'm looking at the Nemesis Audio delay but am open to suggestions.

>>70069566

I have a Fulltone Octafuzz. It does the job but it doesn't really play well with other pedals. Definitely lean more towards the Big Muff family

>>70069607
yea but
>do you know where you are.jpg

>>70069568
why don't you like the swollen pickle, i was thinking about picking one up

>>70067208
I've been eyeing one of these for a while now. How do you like it?

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>>70069634
oh fuck old pic

>>70069652

I've always thought the Black Arts Pharoah was the end-all-be-all for shoegaze fuzz, but that's obviously subjective

>>70069669
I think you missed my point

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>>70069317
Looking to add a tremolo and and a bigger physical board

>>70069441
Thats when you make one of your guitarists pick up the fucking bass instead.

>>70069710

Got an Earthquaker Hummingbird on my board and I'm still in that 'new pedal honeymoon phase' like a year later. Great pedal.

>>70069769
thanks for the tip

>>70069738
>Thats when you make one of your guitarists pick up the fucking bass instead.
great way to get a band where the bassist is useless

>>70069890
Someones gotta play bass.

>>70069738
I had to do this and though he did not like the idea at first. he is quite good at it and is a valuable asset to the band

>>70069908
>Someones gotta play bass.
Not necessarily. Inquisition and Bölzer sound absolutely massive live, and they're both duos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYWB16ohF80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nVcEzB_Ys

What'll happen if you put a guitarist on bass is that you'll get someone without any kind of actual insight on what he needs to do. So either you're playing thrash metal and it doesn't matter anyways because he's just playing the guitar part, one octave down, or you're playing reggae and he's ruining the mood entirely.

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why is that like 90% of guitars and bass guitars with a natural finish are ugly.

>>70067848
no it isn't you meme shit

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I got it today. I can't put it down.

>>70069537
Amp? Price range? Jesus fucking Christ.

>>70069738
Personally I think about half of all guitarists should quit and focus on bass instead. But guitar is glamorous so that's what everyone wants to do. Gotta actually convince them.

>>70070124
Looks pretty

>>70070155
You see, I've always found bass more interesting than guitar. You can make your lines very glamorous behind the guitarwank. But of course, people care more about the guitarwank I guess.

Any recommendations on a reverb pedal? Got my eyes on the Digitech Supernatural, also heard the TC Hall of Fame is actually not too great.

>>70070166

I believe the color scheme is called "Tuxedo".

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>>70069317
My shitty ass pedal board for my bass/guitar.

>>70069589
is that a carbon fiber or graphite acoustic?

>>70070235
Are pedals as useful on a bass guitar?

>>70070083
you have zero appreciation for wood?

>>70070206
I'm the same way. I'm a keyboardist first and foremost but I also play guitar and bass and if I had to specialize in anything else, I'd go with bass, because it allows you to actually be useful to other people, and finding cool/creative things to do with it is a lot of fun.

>>70070235
>meme "punk" band
>pedals look like fisher price toys
yes, shitty board indeed

>>70070275
Yeah :/

>>70070235
I'm gonna throw up.

>>70070262
If you like the sound they give, I really only use the big muff and maybe the chrous on my bass, it sounds ok

>>70069589
do you break a string and then just buy a new guitar instead?

Are death by audio meme pedals ?

Idiot asshole here.

What does it mean if I'm tuning the high e string up because it's too low, but will only go so high before reverting back to being too low

>>70070150

Marshall DSL 40C, not much more than $150 per pedal. :)

>>70070123
yes it is

>>70070291
so if you don't mind me asking,
why do your board like that?
it looks silly and makes me think you're a teenager

>>70070083

I really like natural finish guitars. The pickguard looks like garbage on that one though.

>>70070380
LOL ok bud

keep believing in tonewoods

>>70070409
Eh normal pedal boards are boring is really my only excuse for it , I own an actual pedal board but I just wanted to do it like that

>>70070470
I will because they're real

>>70070378
Then year get a big muff, not a rat. Boss RV-5 is a pretty good reverb, and if you're trying to sound like MBV, get a digitech digiverb and put it before the muff on a certain setting. I won't tell you exactly what it is, but it's not reverse. After that you have all the basics really, it's just whatever sort of modulation you want. If you get more drive pedals, stay away from another mid humped like the rat or tube screamer. Most fuzzes are a safe bet, and the boss hm-2 is also good, but they're starting to get expensive.

>>70070235
Please tell me that doesn't say Fidlar

>>70070517
Yes I made it when I was 16

>>70070481
this makes it much worse

>>70070512
not him but can you explain how?

>>70070512
yeah just like santa

>>70070512
this just in
wood is matter and is real

>>70069670
it's good for the price i guess if you can get one used. i got mine for $75 in perfect condition, but i just can't seem to get a thick/warm/wooly/creamy fuzz tone out of it.

i might have just got the wrong pedal for the sound i want, but that said, the sounds that do come out of it are very high quality.

>>70070549
so its brand new?

What do I do after memorizing the notes on the fretboard?!??!?!?!?!?!?

>>70070690
Fuck I just got meme'd

>>70070262
feed a joyo ultimate drive (fulltone ocd clone) into a bass big muff and you get the best sounds in the world.

>>70070325
yes

>>70070239
its plot

How did you guys learn to solo? Did you guys just use a metronome and looked up a guitar progression on Youtube?

Thanks in advance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKWAQf0JsaQ&ab_channel=SeanDaniel

>>70070777
Learn many solos and practice improvising

Is rocksmith actually a good tool to use? I've used it a bit and I seems pretty neat.

>>70070848
it hides mistakes too much in all the vids i've seen

if it lets you, you should lower the actual guitar track volume to like 10% so you can hear your playing better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJgsDDLa2HY&ab_channel=DarrellBraunGuitar

>>70070848
It costs money and isn't that accurate.
Recording yourself into a DAW along a track is better, you can go back in time and check if you're fucking up, you can lower the tempo, focus on one part, and so on. The only thing it doesn't have in comparaison to rocksmith is the scoring system, which I think is not really that useful.

I CANT FIND MY JAZZ III

>>70070589
see
>>70068635

>>70071274

Only part I don't understand is that when the string vibrates, it vibrates from the fret (metal) to the bridge (typically metal). How does the fretboard material come into the equation? I don't see how it can affect the vibrations pick up by the guitar's pick-ups.

>>70071332
It has to do with sympathetic vibrations. It makes (almost) no difference. Things like cable quality and power supply are more important

>>70071487

Yeah I can understand that, but I thought people were arguing it was more on that.

On that note, how big of a difference does body material and density make? E.g. a big mahogany body vs a slim, chambered ash body. I know lots of people say Wata of Boris says she gets her tone from her heavy as hell Les Paul, but I don't know.

>>70071332
>strings vibrate/neck vibrates
>string/neck vibrations enter the body through the nut/fret/neck joint/bridge and the body resonates
>the various neck/body resonances/vibrations interact with the vibrating strings over the pickups
>the pickups translate these string vibrations that were affected by the various resonances/vibrations into an electrical signal

It's not really that complicated.
>>70071546
>denser heaver guitar = more natural sustain
It's more complicated than that but a 9 or 10 lb. Les Paul is a good place to start. Go to a store and pull a Tele off the wall with a single coil in the bridge, find one of those new Les Pauls with the splitable humbuckers and put it into single coil mode in the bridge, and see for yourself if they sound anything alike.

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>>70069317
Only pic I have

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What are the best places to buy used instruments other than reverb and ebay?

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>>70070235
You've inspired me to shred while I shred, bro. Pure analog filth.

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How much does something like this affect the selling value?

Have a 2008'ish Gibson SG, headstock is damaged, pic related. One of the volume knobs has a chip to the plastic at the very top. I have also added sperzel locking tuners.

What is the value I could get for this, and what's the best way to sell?

>>70071906
Probably should sell it for half off, and give the buyer an apology note and some green tea kit kats.

>>70071928
'fucken lol

>>70071906
>What is the value I could get for this
bout tree fiddy

>>70071862
>buying a pedal with the name of a genre on it
I've never understood this, you could easily play Death Metal with regular pedals

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>>70071966
This is what you use for death metal

>>70072016
I mean, you could use that yeah

>>70072016
Why wouldn't Boss make more of these. easy money

>It sounds weird to solo while hooked up to a scanning machine, but a few brave guitarists pulled it off and contributed a major finding to the science of guitars. Researchers found that, when a guitarist shreds, he or she temporarily deactivates the brain region that routinely shuts down when achieving big-picture goals, signalling a shift from conscious to unconscious thought.
>And when mere mortals (non-musicians) attempt a solo, the conscious portion of their brain stays on, which indicates that real guitarists are able to switch to this more creative and less practical mode of thinking more easily.
>All of the research makes it clear that guitarists are just super spiritual, intuitive people. Think about anyone from the Jimmy Page to the Edge right on up to Bon Iver. That sort of intuitive thinking runs all the way to how they learn. Unlike musicians who learn through sheet music, guitarists, according to researchers at Vanderbilt University, get a better grasp of a song by looking at someone playing it rather than reading the notes on paper.

lol, real guitarists don't even think when they're playing, it's all natural instinct you're either born with or not. This explains all the losers in /gg/, doesn't it?

https://mic.com/articles/88357/science-shows-how-guitar-players-brains-are-actually-different-from-everybody-elses#.Q5RQGPxav

>>70072191
Metal Zone is probably cheaper to make, and retards will buy them no matter how bad they sound.

>>70072203
Metal Zone is way more complicated though, and sound awful

>>70072195
If anyone believes this applies to everyone they're a food because people learn and process differently.

>>70072195
>signalling a shift from conscious to unconscious thought.
when I played regularly I could do this for short bursts

>>70072283
>they're a food
check this genius out

>>70072320
Looks like he shut down his brain halfway through the post. He must be a real musician then.

>>70072195
>The intuition might come from one truth every guitarist suspects: Playing guitar transcends simple brain chemistry. Pat Martino, a jazz guitarist from Philadelphia, had 70 percent of his left temporal lobe removed when he was in his mid-30s due to a hemorrhage. When he came out of surgery, he couldn't play guitar.
>Within two years, Martino was able to completely relearn how to play jazz guitar. Scientists have used Martino's brain as an example of cerebral plasticity. For guitarists, Martino represents something else: Playing guitar isn't a skill. It's a way of being, a way of life.
fuck /gg/ can't even learn jazz guitar with their whole brain

>>70072283
You're right, it doesn't apply to everyone, just guitarists that can actually play.

>>70072360
How do I learn jazz? I want to do something in my life for once

>>70072283
>When non-experienced-musicians attempt to play a solo, the conscious portion of their brain stays on, which implies that "real" guitarists are able to switch to this more creative and less-practical mode of thinking more easily.
What didn't you understand about this?

>>70072195
So is this some power people are born with or something that comes with practicing and becoming a skilled guitarist over time?

>>70072398
Be born with a jazz players unconscious mind and natural musical intuition.
>>70072432
Born with, can't be learned.

>>70072423
>non experianced
>real guitarists
I think we all knew this. obviously if you're in your first day of picking up a guitar and you only know shape one of the minor pentatonic you're going to overthink the fuck out of it.


>That sort of intuitive thinking runs all the way to how they learn. Unlike musicians who learn through sheet music, guitarists, according to researchers at Vanderbilt University, get a better grasp of a song by looking at someone playing it rather than reading the notes on paper.

However this part seems to imply that guitarists, unlike other musicians can do this even if they are new. They learn this way by shutting off the conscious side of their brain to learn.

So its contradicting itself. do you understand?

>>70072504
>seems to imply
Stopped reading right there. You're drawing baseless conclusions on nothing more than assumptions.

>>70067472
make sure you're not just going up and down basic pentatonics, some people use it in really creative ways like eric johnson, or add in blues notes if its that kind of jam and then kind srv or jimi mayer sounding stuff and get the huge bends that sound really good in those scales. make the ascending/descending stuff creative with what notes you don't play and build tension

>>70072459
>tfw can't into jazz, because not born with jazz
rip in pieces

>>70072195
I always knew something was wrong. why even live

>>70072601
the article is literally saying this magic guitarist intuition seperates guitarists from other musicians even in the learning stage but you tried to make the point to say it was only experianced guitarists that could do this. so which one is it?

>>70072643
>you tried to make the point to say it was only experianced guitarists that could do this.
I never said that, nice try though.

>>70072195
>le "playing by ear vs sheet music" meme

ffs

>>70068092
Interested in buying one. Is it any good?

Now tell the truth, /gg/...

Does it upset you to now learn that you'll never be a truly great guitarist because you weren't born with the appropriate aptitude and capability?

Has the fact that you're wasting your time and energy on a hopeless pursuit dawned on you yet?

It'll never happen.

All your accomplishments on the instrument will be lackluster at best.

Your dreams were dead in the water before you even began.

>>70072768

It's solid. Don't pay over $1,000 for one.

>>70072952

>shit troll

Oh no you'll never be famous which is the reason we all apparently do this! Oh jeez!

eat shit.

>>70072986
>admitting to the futility of your pursuit
How do you live with yourself burning in your own personal Hell like that? Terrifying.

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>Kirk Hammett owns the Peter Green/Gary Moore '59 Les Paul

Kill me.

>>70073047

Name me one thing you've ever accomplished to the level in which you claim we all yearn for and I'll admit my defeats as a guitarist.

>>70073047

ur bad at this, you should stop

>>70072952
Jokes on you, I don't like the wankery of guitar. I like the smooth rumble of a good bassline.

>>70073063
>and I'll admit my defeats as a guitarist
Nah, no need, you've already done that. See >>70072986
>>70073080
The post above and below you both say otherwise.
>>70073091
Ha! You win!

>>70073147

cringe.jpg

Alright, I'm bored now. I'm going to watch Sphere instead. Boop! Boop!

Enjoy the rest of the thread, you sad miserable ass fa/gg/ots.

>>70070693
git gud

http://www.strawpoll.me/12017631

>>70070325
do you not?

>>70073423

J A Z Z
A
Z
Z

>>70072952
For me, it's always been about creating a cohesive whole with regard to the music. My guitar playing doesn't need to be excellent, it just needs to suit everything else.

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>bought this at a yardsale for $20
>lady had an amp there, guitar definitely works
>i don't know anything about guitars
>keep thinking about learning

is this a good guitar y/n

I know it is dusty but I figured if I cleaned it up, polished the metal parts, and put new strings on it, everything would be fine.

>>70070325
what else to do? im not a lutheir. its broken...

>>70072195
but that just sounds like muscle memory or something.

>>70073719
show the headstock.

check the neck to see if it's bowed or warped. check all the frets for buzz

>>70073719
Fender?

>>70073719
It's pretty banged up but if it was only $20 then yeah obviously it's worth it. Show us the headstock. Is it an actual Telecaster or just a telecaster type body

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>>70073719

>>70073783
dude you got a fucking telecaster for $20

>>70073719>>70073783
buy the amp too if its still there.

>>70073783
That's a Fender Standard Telecaster, Made in Mexico. New, they're $600 dollars. That looks pretty banged up though.

>>70073783
A Mexican Fender for $20 so far beyond a steal. Even if you need to make a $100 in repairs, you're still WAY ahead of the curve. Nice find.

>>70068188
JEREMY SPOKE IN CLAASSS TODAAAAAYYYY

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>>70069317
I'm a bit of a minimalist...

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>>70070235
>>70071862
HELLO

>>70073914
How do you like that blues jr

>>70073918
that line 6 came like that......right? like you bought it second hand and it was already ruined, please tell me that's the case

>>70072016
>not using the metal zone

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>>70073767
it doesn't look likes it's warped or bent or anything

>>70073956
I love it, although it's too loud to play when anyone else is home. If they are I have to keep the master at like 2.5-3, and it doesn't sound good until you get it up around 6-7 or higher.

>>70073719
MIM Telecaster for $20. Fantastic deal. It will be a wonderful modding platform. I'm jelly.

>>70071227
Buy them in bulk and have them everywhere

>>70073967
Been working fine for 4+ years friendo

let's play a game where we add on to each other, kind of like finishing each others sentences. the only rule is that you're not allowed to play over anyone else's part or remove it. then upload the new clip, and repost it. i think it'd be fun, all skill levels

>>70073719
>>70073783
>>70074033

Helluva find for $20, nice job anon. Doesn't even look banged up, just a bit dirty/dusty.

Pretty sure this was a sign. This guitar was meant for you. You have to learn to play it now.

>>70074359
forgot the clyp link, here i'll start
https://clyp.it/caqwa4je

>>70073783

!!!!!!!!!!!!

nigro don't be trollin' me

>>70074370
do you mean download and add on or just reply with the addition?

>>70074487
download and add it then reupload it. that way we can just have one link rather than a million

What is the deal with mitchell guitars? Are they shit?

>>70074494
it downloads a .ogg file, I can't run that

>>70074529

Really? Thought Windows could play that natively. You can get codecs to play it, if you can be bothered.

>>70074529
ok use vocaroo
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0mAhuqYyxqO

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What's a good clean amp I could buy from GC for less than $300? I've been playing my fender stratocaster through my hifi stereo system, I don't have an actual amp.

I have $250 of in-store credit on my guitar center account.

>>70074593

Fender Excelsior if you can find an old stock one. Awesome tube amp for low watt clean stuff.

>>70074521
i know mitchy he's a piece of shit

>>70074561
reeeee vocaroo downloads a .webm
i can't do anything

>>70074647
What do you mean by this?

>>70074654
really? for me it has a spot where it says "Download as MP3, Ogg, FLAC, or WAV." and i can just click mp3

>>70074702
sorry im dumb I only clicked the embedded link

>>70074722
baka

>>70068000
Wasted trips on your dumb ass

>>70074747
we /drone/ now
http://vocaroo.com/i/s047Epxi5ENF

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>>70074840

>>70074868
whos the cutie with that rockin soul patch and why did you post him?

>>70074882
i thought it was going to be like you pick up where i left off. like everyone finishes each others sentences

>>70074882

https://youtu.be/xfKhDiUNOG0

>>70074840
oh yeah i should mention that was played on a guitar
if you can guess how I got such a fat tone I'll give you a high five

>>70074840

Are you one of those dudes that tell people "Hendrix never learned thoery!"

>>70074914
no
>>70074903
well I thought it was a bit too fast

did I do something wrong?

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What gauge string you nerds use? Let's fight about it
I like to change it up every other time I get fresh string

>>70075147
arrrgh fuck u i use 9 raaa fuck anyone who doesn't use 9s i will fight u

>>70075185
I'm fuckin mad about it I use 10's

>>70075203
normie gauge

>>70071821
That's the sexiest tele I've ever seen

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Rickenbacker answered my e-mail saying they never made anything outside of the US. That means the 750$ "made in Belgium" rick bass on one of my local shops is fake. Can't wait for the next time I go there to tell them this.

>>70071826
Craigslist is worth checking. I got a brand new Jimmy Vaughan signature Strat for $250

>>70075147
0.10 - 0.52 master race

let's do a thing where we each follow each other where we left off, doing ~2 measures

here's what i came up with to start:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0mAhuqYyxqO

i know there's a lot of really good players in /gg/ so i think this could be fun to see the different skill levels

>>70075147
On most of my guitars I have .10 standard, but on my hollow body I have .12s.

Fun story, when I bought the hollowbody I took it to a local guitar shop on my way home to find out what size strings the old owner had, and he kept trying to measure with his micrometer, but was getting weird numbers. The moron was trying to measure it in metric instead of thousandths of an inch. kek

new bread:
>>70075481
>>70075481
>>70075481

>>70075147
11-49 in D standard

>>70069634
>>70069687
I keep going back and forth between the Nemesis and the DD-500. I think the Nemesis will be the best option for most guitarists, but I think the built-in editing on the screen of the Boss will give it the edge for my use.

I also plan on eventually getting a Strymon Mobius and maybe a Big Sky, so the DD-500 would be optimal for pedalboard aesthetics. It would be white, cyan, and blue similarly-sized pedals. Strymon should make a black or white version of the Timeline so it can match better with the other two big box effects.

>>70069127
just fuckin play all instruments and look for a band.

i'd happily play bass or drums in a band, even though i'm primarily a guitarist

>>70070270
>>70070206
bass is the most underrated instrument of all time. great basslines are so awesome and it's cool if the band knows that.

like "is this it" where the bassline is just crazy good and the guitar is kind of just providing some harmony.