/prod/ - msuci pronmduction genril - CIA Edition

still /r/in halp from previous >>70040956
i'll be lurking in case anyone fagures it out

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Any good harmony engine-like vst's?

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>>70041795
Are you on Ableton? Are you playing midi? Chord device is your friend.

How badly mixed is this? It starts at 1:20

I want it to be gritty.

https://clyp.it/mjz5qvqu

>>70041378
is there some kind of sustain feature engaged on the keyboard?

>>70042080
sounds like you just put a filter on the master bus? be more creative tbqhwufamily

>>70042056
I use fl studio

>>70042167
So that means it mixes smoothly? There are 8 tracks in this song, and just one of them is a sample.

>>70042296
it means it sounds like you've put a weird lofi filter on the whole track which is pretty lazy

>>70042080
it's extremely muddy, where's all the high end?

>>70042329
I did lowpass the master bus at 7k and used a tape sound VST, but nothing else. I also over compressed every channel individually.

>>70041378
Do you have a midi cable AND a usb cable going from the keyboard? That would send duplicate midi notes which could cause problems.


Do you know if certain keys are not playing at all but some are?

Could be a keyrange restriction on your controller - usually there's a function like pressing n holding the octave up and down keys together then pressing the top and bottom keys on the keyboard

Who here does mashups?
How do you guys master and mix your stuff considering you're using stuff that's already mastered and mixed?

>>70041378

Which model is your Tascam interface, the 144 mk 1 or mk2?

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>>70042177
fl studio has this instead

>>70042628
how would i apply this to vocals? The thing I like about harmony engine is how simple the design is. My trials about to run out though

>>70042448
>I did lowpass the master bus at 7k
the fuck? why?

>>70042715
It sounds mellower to my ears, I wish it would sound like a really old tape, obviously I'm open to criticism and probably there is some way to achieve this without lowpassing so much, but I don't know how yet.

>>70042849
do high shelves instead of low passes

Why does everything posted in these threads sound like music coming from a toy keyboard? Are you all trying to become Carpenter Brut or something? He's bad

>>70043031
because a lot of it is made with toy keyboards
also
>carpenter brut
>bad

>>70042967
I'm trying this right now, I'm not sure if I really like all this high end, but at least you got me working on it again, ty.

>>70043031
not everyone have a modular synth or a modular wireless synth

>>70043358
>a modular wireless synth

>>70042572
depends on what kind of work I do on my mashup.

>>70043031
there's a lot of newbies too

>>70043530
Like, how do you balance the volumes between the acapella and the instrumental?

https://clyp.it/vy25szgx

https://clyp.it/xhm02szv

any thoughts on these 2?

>>70043562
using your ears, might wanna slightly EQ the instrumental or multiband sidechain the higher frequencies to the vocal.

>>70043574
it's not that bad but sounds more like background music

>>70043574
I think technicolor is really nice and detailed. Even though I'm not a big fan of trap beats since they sound really cliche, I really like the pads and melodies you got there. Though I think some different chord progressions for the second half would have been better.

The other one, I can't say too much about. I just didn't like it too much. Same played-out trap beats but not as interesting melodically as technicolor.

What VSTs did you use for the pads and the melody by the way?

>>70044030
I used nexus for all the melody sounds on technicolor. Thanks for the feedback. The second one I didnt spend near the time on compared to technicolor

I'm experimenting with hip hop, are my beats rappable?

https://clyp.it/cvld4csq
https://clyp.it/j1cvr3a1
https://clyp.it/1ynpur4l

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>>70042056
Why the fuck would you do this? Just learn music theory you idiots

>>70043690
can you post one of your mashups?

>>70044672

I would say no but i'm not a rapper. Very nice vibes though I think you just need some harder hitting drums

>>70044732
I know music theory, I'd rather press 1 key instead of 3 to make my I-ii-iii-IV-V-vi-vii° progressions work. Learn to ableton, you fucking faggot.

>>70044672
fm8 a shit

https://clyp.it/nitvjecz

how's that

Yo guys.
So I got a mininova and am new to the whole thing. Novation finally got their website unfucked today so I was able to register it and get ableton and shit, and with all the free stuff came this "loopmasters" sample pack that had a lil 25% code for any "loopmasters" purchase. I didn't know what that was and I went to their site and I guess it's like sample packs and patches and loops and stuff. So I've got two questions:
1. are these packs just for suckers too lame or lazy to make their own sounds or is it not a bad idea to grab a pack
and
2. how do I tell what patches will work with my mininova? I know it takes syx files, but the formats on this site are like "Nnxt", "sfz", etc, and I'm having really poor luck finding whether or not these work with the mininova.

>>70045995
if ur the guy wondering if it's rappable or not i would still say no. It's a really nice compostion though i just think it sounds too lofi more like old video game music.

>>70046296
No that's not me, i wouldn't quantize a piano like that ugh

>>70044732
why does /prod/ get so triggered by chord shortcuts

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https://clyp.it/i1pjrtgn

Finished the arrangement on this song yesterday, gonna begin mixdown tomorrow. Can I have some feedback please?

>>70044672
>>70045458
>>70046337
here's one i made yesterday that i think has the right vibe to rap over. It's not the most interesting song and could use some variation but i think it's rappable anyway.

I don't know what to do anymore. I never make anything that I like. https://clyp.it/zdzw3ada

>>70046296
well thanks btw

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>>70046833
This is me

>>70042080
Sounds pretty good, but I am not super familiar with vapor wave style, but it sounds gritty and gives me weird 90's nostalgia feel. So I'd say you're doing good work. There is missing top end to the mix so it does feel really muddy, but it doesn't really sound "wrong" to me.

>>70043574
first track
The mix is nice, bass and kick low but punchy. It does get a little boring, but you are on the right track by adding new elements every so many bars. I'm sure theres a rapper out there that would love to put vocals to it.

Track 2
Intro was interesting, but could be faded a little more smoothly. If you rework on that I think you might find a better way to slide everything in there. The change up you had is a great idea, it's what track 1 almost needs. I like this track more.

>>70044672
Track 1
There's some mud that could be cut out of that piano. I think you can write decent music but you need to work on your sound designs and be more unique. very comfy though.

Track 2
Your hat is the same as track 1, or at least incredibly similar. Like i mentioned, focus more of your time on making unique sounds and it will push your music further. That little since near the end is nice and sounds like "Snail's House".

Track 3
Good ideas, you're kicks are more complex and that little tapping roll you have going in the background is interesting. Nothing too special though.

You seem like you're on the right track, just need to make more stuff. 10,000 hours.

>>70045995
I think everything was going so good until that lead came in at 0:15. It makes the track turn super cheesey really fast. Also if that's you playing piano then dam you have some good fingers. I enjoy the track though.


All of this is just my opinions, so take it or leave it.

>>70047009
Just keep making shit. Even if you make 99 tracks that you hate, if track 100 is one you do like, your skills will be so much more advanced than if track 13 was the one you liked.

Don't know if that made sense or not.

>>70046837
oops forgot link

https://clyp.it/b0khll15

>>70047009
I have the same exact problem rn
It's the wrost thing ever but baybe is just a phase

>>70047180
I've only ever made one song that I like. It's just hard to keep pushing on sometimes.

>>70047561
then make sounds. don't even try and make a song or music for that matter, make a synth or something. Just try and make noises/sounds/whatever. Something will happen.

>>70047133
Man, your stuff is top tier, seriously, I couldn't pinpoint anything wrong with it, I'm loving the way you used those voice samples, the drums sound great, the sub is tight, that chord progression is simple yet effective and the mix is really really clean.

10/10 wouldn't mind having your soundcloud.

https://clyp.it/qycu3pez

Thoughts on this? Is it too annoying?

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https://clyp.it/fpymemzh

does the pad/soundscape/atmosphere shit soundbad?
it's not rly mixed or mastered yet

>>70047133
>the hip hop guy
The hats on the first two tracks are both simple white noise stuff, so that makes sense. I'll try harder to be more various.

https://clyp.it/soakv0sn
I'm making something of the same nature, hopefully I finish today.

https://clyp.it/kp5be0ia

>>70048038
meh it's kinda annoying, don't really see the point of the song. Didn't like the melody and synth that came in around 1:15

>>70048176
add some variation to the melody.

>>70047194
on the master cut below 35 or so hertz.
Didn't really see the point of the intro. Add percussion.

>>70046833
pretty chill, you could probably boost the portamento chords by 1db or so during the main parts.

>>70048465
You honestly never fail to impress me. Everything you produce is a meme.

>>70047009
yeah alright, nothing special really. more percussion

>>70045995
Not bad, kick needs to cut through the mix more though.

>>70046559
Chords aren't hard at all, if you don't have the patience to learn basic music theory, you won't have the patience to become a successful musician.

What genre is this? Will probably change the intro
https://clyp.it/kp5be0ia

>>70049069
>Chords aren't hard at all, if you don't have the patience to learn basic music theory, you won't have the patience to become a successful musician.
>implying using the full capabilities of your DAW means you don't know music theory
As I said before, learn Ableton before saying this kind of bullshit.

>>70049242
Honestly it would be faster to draw the chords.

>>70049242
100% learning the chords and writing them into MIDI is not a waste of time, it will allow you to experiment with accidentals while switching between flats and sharps.

it will allow you an innate understanding of different types of progressions, not just major and minor. Using chorded shortcuts is only going to stifle your understanding of your own music, and most likely, bottleneck the sound you have in your head between the one you are producing; i.e - you will find it easier to write the song in your head.

if you really dont agree with this then im sorry but you are a mug lol

i get its faster, its easier. i had a good friend talk to me about an Ableton integrated controller where different pads will cause different progressions, so i pressed one, and asked what was the sequence, what was the interval, what was the key, what was the root - and he simply didnt have an answer.

what a cop out desu

>>70049497
>100% learning the chords and writing them into MIDI is not a waste of time, it will allow you to experiment with accidentals while switching between flats and sharps.
You are still implying I don't know how to write them, I learned integer notation by heart because of that cheat sheet, that doesnt mean I don't know music theory.

>>70049672
>i learned intger notation by heart because of that cheat sheet
>that doesnt mean i dont know music theory

righteo

https://clyp.it/retvosni

what do you think?

>>70049069
>You honestly never fail to impress me. Everything you produce is a meme.
T-thanks

>>70049865
With your tracks, do you make them ironically or are you actually autistic?

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what kind of music do they make

what genre is this?

https://clyp.it/ws0ynpev

>>70047180
Wow thank you very much for saying that (:

There is stil a lot I want to change in the track, the synth automation I did live and I find it sloppy in parts, so I'll redo that, and I have to do a cleaner mix. But thank you I'm glad you like it!

I don't have a SoundCloud because I don't post any music that I make online, other than clyp and here on /mu/. I feel I'm not ready to establish myself as an artist yet.

>>70049900
I mostly mess around with stuff in fl studio/live.
https://clyp.it/soakv0sn isn't meant to be ironic

>>70049900
I thought the same thing when I listened to be honest. It sounds like you are trying to badly emulate old MIDI game tracks. Do you shelve up the highs or something? Or do you intentionally make your sounds an harsh and unpleasant to listen to as possible.

>>70049900
The real questions


its like the song was generated by deaf demons with 80's MIDI for inspiration

>>70050074
How long have you been producing for? How have you not improved? This stuff is alright; if it happened to be the first track you ever made. I never, ever say this, but it might be time to give up

>>70050087
I didn't use any effects on that track.

>>70050237
I haven't really made anything else besides that. The rest of my stuff is mainly improve junk. I do have a bunch of very crappy snippets of ideas I made in fl studio. I've only really begun this 2-3 month ago.

>>70050406
....by effects you are referring to the question about shelving the highs?

Its not very.... musical....

>>70050406
Do you make your music sound bad on purpose?

>>70050465
Yes
>>70050471
No

anyone know good places to find samples?

>>70050587
In other Music.

>>70050770
alright smartass

where do I find good music to sample?
>inb4 itunes

>>70050499
you're joking, right?

https://clyp.it/ws0ynpev

>>70050836
No

>>70042056
What exactly is this?

>>70050814
You find and listen to music you like the progressions, instruments and/or rhythm of.

The way you find this is by listening to music.

>>70041298
Anyone know of any multiband imagers that can be set to respond to either a threshhold or an envelope?

I finished it.
https://clyp.it/crjzydy0

>>70051709
just fucking stop dude. your music is shit.

bangbang
https://clyp.it/ewpkmugp

Best/cheapest midi keyboard with at least 3 octaves, anyone?

could someone give me their opinion on my mix in this song so far?

https://clyp.it/wizvskgu

>>70049069
Yeah, even I noticed that. The vocals in some parts are too loud as well, I will begin the mix phase soon. Thanks for your feedback! (:

>>70051709
track for your video game about slithering through Rosie O'Donnel's irritable bowel syndrome afflicted guts? If so, good job. If not, fuck u

>>70050053
Whoops this post was meant for
>>70048024
>>70048024
thanks for your kind words!

>>70052148
anything you can get second hand off craigslist.

>>70049069
>>70049497
why are you so triggered by people using technology? get with the times grandpa

>>70054060
guessing this was meant for >>70051867
and to answer that question, pretty much any one by a reputable company that has the configuration of keys/pads/knobs/faders that you want and is in your price range

also like the other guy said, buy second hand and your money will go much farther

>>70050031
overused sample desu

>>70054509
you didn't answer his question

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write ur name in MIDI

And you have to play it on a controller

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>have to be tired to get musical ideas in my head
>must not be tired in order to transcribe and produce it

and i cant smoke weed anymore to get my head swarming either cos it gives me panic attacks

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https://clyp.it/w5jvebos

Does a scale exist which only has a flat second?

r8 n b8

https://clyp.it/3z3yrooo

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Afternoon /prod/. I'm looking for a quality tape delay VST, something like pic related in VST form. Price is no issue as long as it's decent. Any recs? Cheers!

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>he pays for vsts
>he pays for samples
>he pays DAWs
>he pays for 1s and 0s

can bigger cucks even exist???

>>70060273
Why would you pay for that shit when you can get it for free?
>mfw I've made thousands of dollars without spending a dime on gear

>>70060273
>he uses digital sound sources

>>70060443
>he doesnt exclusively compose with some old gnarled sticks he found in the woods and old pots and pans

plebé tier

>>70060273
if you have the disposable income for it, you really should buy software though. nobody could stay in business if everybody pirated everything all the time

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>>70055213
it's the best i could do

>>70057438
idk why dont you look it up yourself http://www.scales-chords.com/scalefinder.php

https://clyp.it/nk4ftjhb

r8 my generic lo-fi hip hop beat

>>70060271

Probably U-He Satin for the options you get, since its primary function is tape deck emulation with delay and flanger functions as additional (but extremely configurable) features.

>Tape deck emulation (Studio mode)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ_06w0zTu8


>Delay mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiRJWyqYPkA

>Flange mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCkFkrQc600

If cutting is better than boosting, would you accomplish the same effect if you EQ'd everything by boosting and then lowered everything down by X amount of dB? Seems like boosting is sometimes easier way to EQ.

>>70051047
>not knowing anything about music theory or composition
>having to sample shit to make a cohesive music piece

>>70046015
Sample packs are for lazy fuckers, preset patches are for lazy fuckers. Make your own sounds.

>>70063630
>if cutting is better than boosting
the only reason that's true is for the obvious effect this has on dynamics, and even then it might not act that way. for example, no matter if you cut or boost, you still cause phasing, that's why sometimes even when you cut the volume post-EQing is louder than before.

>if you EQ'd everything by boosting and then lowered everything down by X amount of dB?

you're gonna ruin your dynamics, what are you gonna do, up the entire signal by 20 db's?

anyway, you're basing your post off of a misconception, cut and boost responsibly and according to the needs you have, don't go with the "cutting is better than boosting" mentality because you're thinking about it in a wrong way. it's just really easy to get carried on when boosting a signal you shouldn't overdo it, that's why they say it.

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>that feel when deconstructing pendulum songs

so much care and attention to detail both production wise and theory wise, is rob swire literally /ourguy/?

>>70064142
>to pianist:
>"Make your own piano, you lazy fuck!"

>to violinist:
>"Build your own violin you fucking pleb!"

>to electric guitar player:
>"Kill yourself you cuck, Stop using premade sounds!"

Being a music producer doesn't mean I have to design my own sounds. I want to make music. But it seems that this thread can pretty much be titled "/sound design/ general", since a bunch of fucks here like to create spooky drone noises and call it music.

>>70064281
Cool, thanks man.

>>70064306
Your argument is completely invalid. You can't compare those instruments to a synthesizer in any way.

>>70064306
>>70064474

a lot of producers are successful using presets nowadays

>>70064474
Can't compare them, but sound is a sound. Why would anyone be obligated to create their own sounds in order to make music?

>>70064285
Rob Swire is just as good as any other professional on that level.

>>70064306
I agree with this, personally I like designing everything I make because it gives me total control over the music, I still use samples tho, but a "musician" can do as little as write a few notes on paper.

>>70064333
anytime bro

>>70064474
if he just wants to make music then let the nigga just make music, it's harder to get what you accurately have on your mind on the DAW without designing the sound the way you want it or have it in your head, but you'll still probably get your idea across as long as you produce it ok.

>>70064527
a lot but not most of them desu

>>70064541
because it gives you complete control over your music.

>>70064557
>rob swire is just as good

yes i suppose so but there is no sound like pendulum rly

what does this need?

https://clyp.it/eojmxl4k

>>70064687
that's true, but like most other great artists like him, he has his own sound. actually stealing just a tiny few Pendulum vibes for my album ngl. I think "originality" is just everything you ever heard translated through your inner self.

>>70064824
post clyp?

>>70064883
I have a strict "don't post anything anywhere from my album before everything is done" mentality. I want everything to be fully finished before I start showing it to people. but man, it's so fuckin much, orchestral infused bangers, all kinds of tempos, chords/melodies all over the place, anyway, I guess it's useless to say this while I don't have anything from it to show. just really fuckin excited about it.

>>70064941
are you a professional producer? or have you just started out?

if you've just started, you probably have a lot more to learn to say the least lol

>>70063767
Fuck you it takes a refined ear to spot the sample suck my dick

>>70064281
Most of the time, cutting many tracks is better than boosting one because you are fighting for less headroom overall and are allowing for more dynamics in the mix.

You always want to be mixing without any digital distortion, IE; no clipping/redlining within any vst's or channels before the mixer, also none on the mixer, the you a pure green signal until it hits analogue

will post soundcloud

>>70050031
>https://clyp.it/ws0ynpev
fuck me that was cool as shit. Lovvveee those drops.

what kinds of programs you guys use? ableton? FL Studio? etc.?

>>70065094
no it doesn't lol maybe to make multiple samples work together but anyone can find a sample

>>70059206
hey you improved it!

>>70065000
I didn't start out, been grinding music production for 2 years and before that was into orchestration and classical shit, anyway, I know where I am objectively, I'm not deaf. it's happening in 2017 screencap this.

>>70065094
ye, that's true, however don't assume that when you cut that automatically means the volume goes down. there's a lot of phasing going on where you're cutting so you might even end up with something louder post-EQing EVEN if it's just cutting.

>>70065191
Ableton but FL Studio is amazing.

>>70065301
i use the FPC in FL because i'm too broke to get an actual drum machine. does ableton have something similar?

>>70061731
i really enjoyed this. go on movie maker and throw a bunch of romantic anime clips in and you've got yourself a youtube lo-fi music video.

>>70065301
are you going to be doing the mastering yourself? if so, what chains will you be using?

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>>70064306
>since a bunch of fucks here like to make spooky drone noises and call it music.

hahahahaha my fucking sides, anon! It's so true! Most of the stuff posted in prod is cheap midi piano sounds trying to imitate some 8shit video game or just noise. not music, just fucking noise. who in the fuck would listen to that shit ahahaha

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r8 collab i did with my cousin

https://clyp.it/vpwziohv

also, where can i find some free vocal samples?
also, how do i into this warm piano-y sound on 0:08 -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9XKLqGqwLA
also, how do i into this bass preset? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfROT6jWSkw

>>70065516
the piano sounds like its chords reversed and the layered with the original so it swells into the next one

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>>70051709
chop the the entire recording down to 1:48-1:50 and loop it.

>clypit realted
https://clyp.it/ntlnfjnx

>>70066105
>>70065516
it's actually more like a piano-y synth which I have no idea how to replicate

https://clyp.it/4cgw1xc0

>wonk pop

advice

>>70065292
yes!

>>70066610
nice anon

/prod/ should make a track

>>70065343
honestly man, mastering is a little turd when you have a perfectly mixed and arranged colossus of a track

Let's ignore the shit composition (was just trying the calypso beat) and focus on my shit mix.

This took me 25 minutes, but that is usually the point where I finish mixing anyway, since after that it is a straight road downhill and I just make everything worse and waste time.

https://clyp.it/cwzxa2jh

So - you are given shit like this - what do you do with the mix?

Btw, I might as well challenge you all to do something in a half an hour and make me hate myself again.

>>70064306
>he thinks the purpose of electronic music is so you can sound the same as everyone else.

>>70064527
sources? I find it more likely that the ones that use presets are in fact ghost produced or already have a ton of money for marketing.

Actually, I have an idea. I'll remove all the effects and play all the tracks separately.

Cut that shit up and just mix it, then send a clyp here - I'm interested what can you do with the sounds. (Preferably, exaplain what you did in a few sentences).

Help a fellow anon learn a thing or two.

>https://clyp.it/vnubxxd0

>>70069086
Are you actually saying that electronic music is just about sound design, whilte the actual composition doesn't matter?

>>70069126
you can't mix something that isn't a project file.

>>70068905
aye i was just testin ye

please post a clyp :^)

>>70069086
some yt vid showing how a song with 20 mil yt views was using a nexus preset- it was exactly the same

>>70069188
How so? These are clear sound samples, chop them up and add needed effects, mix volumes etc. I don't want you to play with plugins anyway. That's a challenge.

I don't know how to EQ these tracks properly so thay sit well together.

>>70047133
bless you anon

>>70069178
No, did I ever say that? But in case you haven't realized, most electronic genres don't value composition as much as sound design. e.g dubstep, future bass, trap, bigroom, and most other modern genres.

>>70069252
link the video

>>70069276
no

>>70069360
>no
Explain, now I don't understand what's the problem here.

>>70069360
i cba to find it it was years ago

some faggot song with niggers dancing in the streets like lmfao but the music sounded better than lmfao

it was quite listenable, marketed for the masses

if you google "popular songs with presets" im sure youll find plenty of examples

>>70069252
alright I will but it's not from the album, it's extremely shitty and the mixing/mastering is fuckin awful, think of it more of a sketch or something. it;s also a year old track.

https://clyp.it/fadp5t30

>>70070028
>mixing awful
Sometimes I worry that there is no hope for me if people consider something like this "bad"

Where did these few years I've been producing go?

>>70070028
>>70070093
Btw, now I realized - you're that guy with a night at the opera clyp, right?

>>70070028
>think of it more of a sketch or something
I thought of it as a sketch comedy piece and that helped

>>70070093
it's bad in that although it gets the point across and I guess it's good for all the loudheads I guess, there's fuckin 0 dynamics on it.

I think the most important aspect is knowing what's wrong with your music and starting with a solid idea/concept.

>>70070028
did you lowpass all the growls n shiet?

>>70070120
lmao yeah that's me

>>70070129
:^)

>>70070152
Btw, do you have a soundloud or some shit? I don't believe you've been making music for only 2 years (unless you did it full time).

>>70070182
Triple btw - what the hell are those instruments from? What is that trumpet? It sounds too real, I'd almost think you just sampled shit.

>>70070217
where*

>>70070182
I've been making music for 6 months and I made this

https://clyp.it/3z3yrooo

I know it's shit but I think it's alright for 6 months.

>>70070028
bretty interdasting, drop kinda felt a bit aimless and weird at times but head and shoulders above what is usually posted here, even tho it's a sketch

also lol @ that hardcore influence or w/e that genre is called the one the russians like to dance to

>>70070249
I bet it's because in the first 6 months I just acummulated at least a hundred small ideas and never developed anything so never came to the stage of actual mixing. How much unfinished shit do you have?

Fuck, I should focus already.

>tfw you are so pleb people don't even want to respond to you so you learn something

>>70070356
why though? for at least a year after you start,a anything you make will be completely shit. not point really worrying if your non-existent fans think your idea is good enough or not.

>>70070182
I do but I don't feel comfortable posting it on here because of the no soundcloud rule. also, everything I have on there is just random shit I fuck with, nothing serious since I haven't started my whole "alias" yet. and it's only been 2 years as far as production goes, but I've been making mockups on Sibelius for years before that and playing the piano and shieet.

>>70070217
trumpet is from a kontakt library called "broadway big band" by fable sounds, it's 100GBs

>>70070249
it's pretty good for 6 months, especially the drops, very experimental stuff

>>70070335
haha thanks man, and ye, the hardstyle part with the jumpy kick

>>70070356
I got """"""good""""" by trying to recreate all the tracks that I loved as close as I can, then I started taking liberties and now I just do my own shit. I've fuckin tons of unreleased projects but a lot of it is just 30 seconds or a minute, just focusing on sections or getting ideas down. really fuckin focusing on my album, trying to get it as perfect sounding as I can and that's why I'm embarassed every time people listen to my other shit because it's nowhere near what I'm making for the album and everything after that.

>>70070447
nigga I hope that's not the same guy I'm responding to, I'll like, fuckin add you on discord or something if you want and we can talk every day.

>>70070249
btw, meme meister nigga again
the biggest piece of feedback I can offer judging from this is that "it's all over the place" you need to step back and try to listen to as much music as you can and try to get inspired in your head, try to hum shit, try to generate melodies no matter what you're doing. you gotta have a concept in your head before you delve into producing it. before I had any sort of inspiration I just remade all the shit that I liked as close as I could to improve my production skills.

Nah, I forgot to add the person I was replying to

>>70069360

I still don't know why couldn't you mix the raw sounds I provided. And I want to know since I feel there is something I need to know. Maybe I have just been trying to polish shit sounds the whole time and didn't know that's not how it's supposed to work.

how do I make my mix louder

I used mostly field recordings and my drum machine to make a little ambient dub thing but it's suuuper quiet. I don't want any clipping and a compressor doesn't even help much

>>70070659
How I can justify that these are my best productions after a few years of playing with FL Studio every day for at least an hour?

>best drop I did. Spent around 15 hours on this project file:
https://clyp.it/etufb2e1

>best remake I did
https://clyp.it/borigmj1

>random shit. I have dozens, if not hundreds of shit like these. Nothing finished.
https://clyp.it/qleurqbb

>>70070948
lol top kek

try looking up tutorials and downloading better software

>>70071004
Laugh all you want... Doesn't help at all, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

I watched a SHITTON of tutorials, mind you.

>>70071043
you can watch tutorials and not learn anything from them

i'd advise you to look into "mastering" (aka making your tracks loud and mesh well) and how limiters/saturation works

>>70070762
yeah, I know it's all over the place. There are too many awkward silences, and you can tell where I've copied and pasted patterns. Hopefully I'll be able to fix those problems. Is there any point trying to classify this song into a genre?

>>70070948
>>70071043
That's why you need to finish stuff
Do you understand that your tracks don't sound professional?

>>70071151
>Do you understand that your tracks don't sound professional?
No way, how did you figure that out? It's not like that was not literally the point of the post. But I keep working and messing up everything as I go. Shit just sounds worse the more I mix it. I'm telling you, I'm deaf to this.

>>70070948
>>70071043
here's what else you do. you go on a site called equipboard, you see what your favorite producers use and then you go through the manuals of fuckin EVERY little piece of software and every time they use a word or concept you don't know, you research it and you try shit out.

someone post the /prod/ discord invite pls

also, this is the latest fuckery

https://clyp.it/0z30f10v

>>70071247
know one thing, fuckin EVERY pro you hear has said that at more than one point in their lives, even people who keep shitting out amazing bangers go through this, it never goes away, you just learn to hate your shit less and less as time goes by. anyway, keep working at it man
join /mu/cord I can't invite for /prod/
https://discord.gg/CCQBArz

>>70069126

https://clyp.it/f1zopfxq

Here you go, I mostly cut bass freqs, compressed, added some reverb to everything, compressed the master bus, limited a bit. Let me know if you want more detail on anything in particular. It's not a great mix still but I think it's an improvement. The high end I think sounds a bit washy because it's gone through the clyp.it compression twice now.

>>70071463
>>70071307
here is /edmprod/'s discord, plenty of people, and there are actually good artists on here.

https://discord.gg/PUaKXeg

>>70071463
Joined. I don't understand shit. Why the hell am I called Jplebitex? But actually, it is surprising, because I once used that as a name here. How does this shit work??

>>70071586
Based anon. I'm now trying to compare it to mine. Obvious loudness on the side, I guess my bass was too loud? I don't know if I should have cut it a bit more. Something happened to your drums, EQ? I'm trying to analyse this a bit with my shit hearing. It definitely sounds better, though.

>>70070938
seriously pls help /prod/

>>70071763
google "how to make my song louder"

>>70070938
turn the volume up?

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>>70071705
Yeah you have to be really careful with bass levels, they will kill the loudness of the mix because they take up too much space.

For drums, I have a weird philosophy. I usually compress them with a slow attack to accentuate the transients, but then I do other stuff to bring the transients back down. I know it sounds retarded but it gives a lot of control. So what I've been doing lately is using some tape saturation to bring down the transients a little bit after the comp, and then using a clipping plugin to bring down the transients a little more after that. Also I did a lot of EQ on them. Heres a screen shot that may help make that clear if you're familiar with fabfilter plugins

https://clyp.it/lhh2txqg

my bass always sounds like shit

>>70070938
put a limiter on and just crank the post-gain :^)

>>70071897
Great, thanks for the explanation man! I use fabfilters too, so this is quite useful.

>>70072007
No problem, drums and bass are most important to just focus on those is my advice.

>>70042056
>still /r/in halp
music theory is easier than memorizing that

https://clyp.it/lt030bxv

can I get some rates?

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>tfw shit drum loops
>tfw shit sound design
>tfw shit melody and chord progression
>tfw overwhelmed by mixing
>tfw nothing interests me
>tfw procrastinating

>inb4 is this hobby really for u

>>70073043

What is there to learn desu, I have a hard time with chord progressions. Scales, notes, time signatures and all that is easy though

is there anyway i can see the waveforms of a song? basically just "visualize" all the layers and shit.

Yoooo

So I've posted on this before, my 2017 goal is learning how to produce. I've had a solid start using VSTs and such in Logic but I've hit a brick wall with sampling. I'm having trouble finding the tempo of some songs I'm trying to sample. In the clyp I'm sharing it's all in time until the 4th bar...check it out. I'm hoping one of y'all could help me. For some reason I think it may be the song I'm sampling...but probably not.

https://clyp.it/ohuxhwdu

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anyone got recommendations for good organ vsts?

anyone got a link to a torrent?

>>70074121
>shit drum loops
>shit sound design
>shit melody
>shit mixing
>shit at life

>not making lo fi grarage synth noise depressioncore

maybe it really isn't for you

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>>70070028
>i only know how to use sample packs and can only make harmony based tracks

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https://clyp.it/ounz4xtx

Mainly looking for feedback on the chorus. Thanks in advance!

Flume where are you?

>>70076267
terrible

>>70076325
Thanks for listening, but can you be a little more specific?

>>70076267
Hopefully a joke

>>70076267
I don't like the random beat reapeats

as for the chorus, it's way too fucking loud, mix that shit. put a compressor on it and limit it so it's not like 20 fucking db louder than the vocals you fuck.

overall it's a lackluster remix.

try harder anon

>>70074355
How long have have you been producing anon? This is not bad desu

>>70076406
the synth rise could have almost worked if it didn't go into a house dance beat. That part just doesn't work at all. Also the synths just sound super cheesy. it sounds like videogame music with adele on top of it. The music itself isn't really bad but they just don't work together at all

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I haven't managed to get a single sound i like out of Ableton Live 9's Operator. Is it just shit, am i just shit? I always try to get a very specific smooth saw sound, like on James Blakes Wilhelm Scream, but i keep shooting past it and it only gets worse from there.

Any software synth that could inspire me? What are you guys using? Should i just keep at it?

Did knowing about /prod/ kill y'alls ability to listen to a bunch of music? Everytime I listen to something lo fi or badly mixed I want to change things every second

>>70076650
maybe you're just retarded

ableton 9's operator works wonders for making synths

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>>70076650
you are drawing the bars of frequencies right?

>>70074355
sometimes you need to correct the timing of the sample because it may not have a steady tempo. you can use timestretch or just chop the sample at each transient and line them up on the grid.

>>70076872
Yes, and even if i wasn't, there's presets for different waves.

>>70076990
Try putting delay and a little spread on

Been trying to work on making my drums more experimental. Any tips?

https://clyp.it/twz0w5v2

>>70077117
What exactly happens to the wave form when you put spread on it?

Who Max/MSP here?

How long did it take you learning it to make some cool rhythms and textures?

>>70061731
3/10

>>70065156
thanks senpai

>>70051739
>just fucking stop dude. your music is shit.
It's better than most of this thread, faggot.

>>70078242
Without a doubt, it's the worst in this thread. His music is not only bad, but also offensive.

>>70078342
It's not as nicely polished but it's one of the few attempts at a real composition.

>>70078384
NO. it's not that. He simply chooses the worst possible sounds and boosts the highs by 10-15db

>>70077155
>https://clyp.it/crjzydy0
dude this is sick

>>70077155
wow that's amazing! How did you sidechain your kick so well?

>>70077155
fuck sake, I've been producing for 2 years and i'm yet to make anything of that level. well done anon.

>>70077155
interesting sound design, do you have sound cloud?

>>70077155
holy shit that's good

>>70077155
best in the thread without a doubt

>>70077995
Tastes better

No I think its the same as putting 200% width on utility in ableton whatever that is

>>70078532
Messing with the pitch on the kicks pretty much did that

>>70078618
No, but here's something else I made around the same time

https://clyp.it/m5xrcatz

>>70078879
Whoops meant to reply to >>70078579

>>70078879
can i call u senpai

>>70078935
Go for it my man

>>70077995
>>70078817
btw you're not supposed to spread or put width on bass sounds, they should be mono, look it up if doubting thomas

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What audio interface is everyone using and why?
>Low latency
>Physical MIDI sliders/surface controls
>Hardware Monitoring
>ADAT in/out
>8 in /4 out 1/4" TRS/8 XLR
>decent preamps

>>70078958
Well i wasn't intending to make a bass sound but thanks

Nice vid that shows Sampler with ableton. How to get punch etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlX9-d3Asd8

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>when literal 11 year olds / /prod/ try to pass on 'constructive' advice with 11 subs/80 listens

>>70077155
literally how, that's so good...

>>70076650
maybe try some of the korg legacy softsynths? don't listen to this doofus >>70076777 operator is pretty lame

>>70079781
>operator is pretty lame

t. 13 yo hobbyist

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Does anyone know any good online resources to explain mastering to the severely mentally challenged?
I'm like, using reaper and a casio keyboard with no velocity control type special, any help would be much appreciated, thanks in advance

https://clyp.it/dknfdfj0

>>70077155

>that mid drum chaos
please put your trip on, Richard David James

>>70080889
go through the izotope manual and try to understand in depth every word or concept they talk about that you don't get. like, every time they mention stereo for example, look up what stereo exactly is and how it works.
also get a few plugs man

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https://clyp.it/cefyque4

Song I started.

do you dig this /prod/ ?

https://clyp.it/43wdb1ti

>>70081192
e p i c dude

>>70081192
reminds me of watership down

>>70081220
thank veri much <3

>>70081258
never actually heard the soundtrack to that

>>70081091
I guess this is what I expected, can't really half arse a shortcut learning this stuff. What do you mean by plugs?

>>70081114
digging this desu

>>70081371
aaaa i forgot about that

>>70081368
plug-ins, you need them to do anything. for mastering I suggest getting the izotope suite for starters, then expand from there.

do you also dig this /prod/ ?

https://clyp.it/vofdbkg4

>>70081371
Thanks, I'm trying to make more songs in this direction. It's like trap and idm mixed together.

>>70081421
i hear that blank banshee. that bass is super nice though good god. also nice transition from trap ish to house ish. i dig

https://clyp.it/pqdm0ypr
alright how's this

>>70081452
ayyyy thanks man <3

>>70081421
The bass is my favorite part. Like the other anon said, reminds me of blank banshee.

Also great transition into the main section.

>>70081465
I like the hook 0:20 and the section at 1:54->

(0:39->) sounds directionless. it can work if you had a vocal to tie all the craziness together, or you rework it so the ear has something to latch onto.

You've got parts of good craziness and bad craziness, make sure that you give the listener something to focus their attention during each section or subsection, and guide them through your weird music

Keep doing you

How do I go about making noise? Do I just get sounds and distort the fuck out of them?

>>70081477
thank you <3

>>70082028
in essence yes, think about no boundaries, just do whatever and go ham

>>70081874
my track, looking for general advice: https://clyp.it/o0fp5m4i

>>70082028
it helps to make use of methods that are only partially controllable like feedback or synths with randomizing settings

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>>70078960
MOTU Track16
Needed something with enough i/o for my gear and room to grow. The size of the unit, snake cable and low latency is what really sold me.
Also pros:
>Firewire bus powered
>expandable via adat
>zero latency onboard DSP (EQ, Compression, Reverb)
>Mackie control
>dual headphone amps

Cons:
>shaking the firewire cable can kill the power mid session
>snake cable is massive
>headphone amps could be louder
>physical i/o ports are named differently in the software mixer

>>70077155
>great production
>great drums
>bad and uninteresting melody and harmony

Classic /prod/.

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I tried making something with a simple melody, but still give it a "feel":
https://clyp.it/pn2cdvxo

What does /prod/ think?

>>70042706
learn some theory dumb fuck
>>70045551
enjoy your shitty chords with no extensions then
>>70064306
enjoy never making anything memorable
>>70077155
>https://clyp.it/twz0w5v2
>"experimental" aka change snare for gay cum sounds
>>70078960
>ableton

This is just a portable recorder recording of something my band did. This is the master and I'm fine with it and it's sound and the fact it's live. However, what is anything I can do to give it the right degrees of variance in sonic quality as well as the illusion that it is at least somewhat better recorded?

https://clyp.it/mkdinzda

I mainly use reaper but I mainly just use it for sequencing tracks, I know almost nothing about VSTs other than basic stuff that comes with reaper

>>70080031
it's ui is cramped and shit, sorry that i like not having to click through 8 separate tabs to make sounds lol

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>>70083888

>>70084466
woah man, so irreverent

you can bet that the amount of fucks this guy gives is zero

>>70084585
>using software
>complaining about clicking things

>>70084633
what a great argument you have made. truly i have been bested

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>>70084690
you are welcome

>>70084767
they should just put every knob on a separate tab, that way you could click the most amount of times possible and use the software to its fullest extent

Anybody knows how can I achieve similiar tom sound to https://soundcloud.com/miss-roisin-murphy/mastermind ? They kick in on about 45 second.

>learn to record and produce rock / metal / band stuff
>thousands of free quality instructional videos, software and hardware comparison videos, everyone is generally helpful

>get into electronic music and want to produce techno and house
>little to no information on how to do it
>most "tutorials" sound like shit and are made by people who know even less than I do
>professional/decent producers don't reveal any details on how they made their tracks mostly, and some even have an attitude about sharing their methods and knowledge

Well fuck

>>70085063
if its not hard its not worth it :^)

>>70049929
What the fuck is wrong with their faces, they look like the creepy masks from that daft punk movie

>>70074791
organist here
nothing good is free, except for combo model v

http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=1004

>>70049929
french house for their pizza parties

r8 another one of my lofi boombap tracks

i'm trying to make one a day.

https://clyp.it/iivjlug3

>>70084466
Somebody has some issues with himself.

>>70084595
Here you go:

https://clyp.it/

>>70084466
IDGAF about sound design, you pleb. Composition is what makes it memorable. :^)

How repetitive is too repetitive? Also looking for feedback https://clyp.it/yfjqne50

How much faster could somebody get good at /prod/ if he is focusing on music with classical instruments, opposed to electronic genres? If any? There's not that much sound design involved in it, I guess.

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>>70085063
>tfw close friends with retired top tier house producer
>tfw still doesn't share secrets

>>70086180
>pleb
then learn some actual theory, baby

>>70084571
bump
can I get production help in terms of mastering?

>>70084571
>>70087025
bump?

>>70087837
not anymore

>>70084571
>>70087025
>>70087837
>I want to be a professional photographer
>I'm gonna use a phone camera.
>What instagram filters should I use?

Seriously, what the fuck did you use to record that?
If you're not willing to fork up the cash to get even a decent portable recorder, I think the only thing you can really do is record each instrument individually and eq them separately. It still won't sound good though.

Can someone please give me the exact BPM for El Scorcho by Weezer?
I'm doing a mashup of it but I just can't seem to get it in sync.
Also, FL Studio has a think where you can stretch the tempo of the track by dragging the soundwave. Does Ableton have something similar to that?

How many reverb and delays do you guys use in a track? Is there a right amount? I try and use only like max 3 or 4 different reverbs on sends to not make it everything muddy and jumbled. Try and make everything sound like it's in the same room. Idk if this is good practice tho

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Coming from headphones (and a world of crappy mixes) I figure any studio monitor is better to mix on, but the fuck do I even pay attention to when looking for a pair besides the frequency response?

I'm looking at some cheap ones online and I'm about to pick and order at random...

>>70041298
which daw should I use?
bitwig, fl studio or ableton.
I wanna make shitposts, dubstep, future house, brostep, vaporwave and some beats

>>70049929
is this drumpf?

>>70088822
FL12

Comparatively user friendly, but still feature heavy. Plenty of good stock features and samples. Prettiest UI. Easy to pirate.

>>70088251
I usually just use one reverb, high pass it, stereo widen it, and usually sidechain it as well.

Another weird thing you can do with vocal reverbs for instance is side chain the vocal reverb to the vocal track so that the verb doesn't muddy up the track

https://clyp.it/avswbmo2
boosh

https://clyp.it/jypsg3wf

It's really generic I know, but the point how this was to practice mixing and mastering? Have I done well?

anybody know if there's a way to use the nanopad's roll/flam features with the xy pad with other midi controllers. like if i hit a note or held a chord on my kidi keyboard i could do the variable speed rolls/flams with the xy pad on the nanopad?

>>70041298
>>>70081874
>my track, looking for general advice: https://clyp.it/o0fp5m4i

Still looking for feedback on this one. Listening on another pair of speakers, I now realise that the bass line isn't quantised as well as it should be.

But otherwise, what does /mu/ think?