/gg/ Guitar and Bass General

Reminder that obsessing over pedals and tone does not make you a better guitarist. it's why you're not very good....

Looking for a second guitar and not sure what to get. Tried a Tele for a while but the twang was not for me. I already have a Strat but I think I may just buy another as back up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_YRZWb3MM
>>69919060
I didn't play with any pedals for years then I tried a multi one to mess with tones but hated it so much. I like the straight amp sound, and maybe an OD pedal but just for a volume boost.

>>69919095

If you don't have a guitar with humbuckers it'd be worth going that route imo. What's the point of buying the same model of guitar? You gig a lot?

>>69919060
Sure stay mad poorfag

>tfw you realize how important a metronome is while recording when it comes to piecing everything together

>>69919119
Tried a humbucker before put prefer single coils.I want to buy one for practice/back up and keep the other for gigs

How are jackson guitars? I haven't heard any shit talking about that brand

>>69919255
good, but theyre not for grandpas
>>69919129
>shitty player detected

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>>69919196
Get a guitar with p90's
>>69919255
They pretty good, not sure about the cheaper ones but the pro series is a pretty good line

>>69919298
Never tried p90s but I will look into it, thanks mang.

>>69919387

P90's are literal /mu/ meme tier. They are very niche and will restrict your sound by entire centuries. Just purchase yourself a decent Telecaster and you will be set. There is no instrument more versatile than the Fender Telecaster.

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Pretty new to using guitars so this is a pretty stupid beginner question but I ordered a Squier Vintage Modified Jag and heard a lot of complaints about the stock bridge so I picked up pic related and was wondering what strings to use for it? Preferably some Ernie Ball strings

>>69919469

guitar strings

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S521 vs S621
Is it worth paying extra for the pretty top?
Does anyone have these?

>>69919533
>Ibeenhad

>>69919455
>They are very niche and will restrict your sound by entire centuries
Citation needed

>>69919533
just get a strat

Can a middle single coil in a HSH set up compete with a bridge single coil?

>>69919584

P90's are niche, tinny as fuck, and are meme pick-ups solely for pre-1955 surf-clean garbage. If you want to severely restrict your guitar's sound, go ahead and place P90 pick ups into them.

t. Guitar player 13 years, technician 10 years, and retailer of musical instruments 4 years

>>69919469
10-52

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>>69919533
>Non-prestige Ibanez
Shiggy Diggy

>>69919733

yeah look at all those fucking faggots who used to play surf music with their P90 equipped hollowbodies and P90 equipped 50s Les Pauls

t. 40 years obnoxious cock, 10 years taking care of my wife's son

>>69919790
>Ibanez
shiggy diggy yourself

>>69919811
Nah MiJ Ibanez are great guitars to play and can be found cheap on the used market. If he's buying Indo shit-sticks he's wasting his money.

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>>69919733
>P90's are niche, tinny as fuck

So wrong. They're just fat sounding single coils literally any other single coil pickup will sound thinner. First couple of Santana and Black Sabbath albums were p90s (not to mention countless jazz albums) or what about Neil Young in crazy horse, or fucking SUNN O))). not exactly what I would call a thin sound.

>>69919533
just get the cheaper one and use the money to get better pickups

>>69919794
LOL DESTROYED

>>69919733
>tinny as fuck
Nigger what

>>69919298
that fender strat TT3TT

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>>69919017

Who else /classicalguitar/ here?
Feels good looking down at you disgusting plebs

Does the Ten Hour workout book work or am I being memed?

>>69919533
>he fell for the Ibadnez meme

>>69919060
I still want to do it for when I get around to recording. I'm more about the overall sound, but the technique is part of it.

>>69919060
>>69920356
>technique is part of it

Listen to any guitarist and a famous band. They don't talk a whole lot about tone. They talk about technique.

>>69920545

Who is Dave Gilmour.

This Marty Friedman weeb music shit is pretty cool

>>69920224
I had trouble reading and playing a part so I stopped 5 min in.

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>tfw ill but still trying to practice daily

>>69920153
There's no reason to fear tube amps. There's very little maintenance but a lot more tone compared to other options.

>>69920903
Good for you anon. When I'm ill I just focus on technique instead of theory as I can't concentrate properly.

>ishibashi has now stopped international sales of rosewood guitars
IDS HABBENINGES

>tfw meal band I play bass in booked a new years eve gig
>tfw just wanted to stay at home alone and drink until I puke

>>69921592
Man this is bullshit. I'm about to order a custom guitar from a luthier in China and it was going to have some exotic woods (ebony and macassar ebony) what do you think the chances of it being confiscated are?

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How do I fix buzz

I've been learning on an Epi LP Special II for about a year and I am getting increasingly annoyed by buzzing when I pick the 6th string, either open or fretting the lower notes. I set the action higher (though it wasn't very low in the first place) and it's still happening.

It doesn't seem to be my playing, as I'm not getting it with other guitars I sometimes play.

Bonus question is should I get a PRS SE as my second electric or save money for something more based

>>69921950
Sounds like the nut slots are cut too low. You have to replace the nut, most luthiers will do this for about $40. You could do it yourself but you'll probably have to ruin a few nuts to get it perfect if it's your first time + you have to buy the nut files.


you might have to level the frets but I'm pretty it's just an improperly cut nut.

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>>69921719
Yeah m8 ebony is on the list as well. Kangaroo dollar is strong against yen right now but that ban is just shitty timing. At least it helps with my GAS.

Got a link for that chink luthier? How much did it cost you? I remember theres a Chinese company that makes pretty good custom hollow bodies for cheap but I forgot the website. I think I read it in a /gg/ thread or some forum

>>69922019
>>69921950

>Sounds like the nut slots are cut too low, You have to replace the nut
I saw a video where someone stuck a piece of guitar string in the nut below the actual string to make it higher.

You could try that method anon.

>>69921950
>save

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>>69919017

I did the metal band thing from 16 - 21 yrs old and enjoyed it a lot. Then filled in for pop punk bands and sold a lot of my gear. Now all I have is my Fender Tele and a Mesa Dual Rectifier. Realizing if I want to start gigging again straight away, the easiest genre / most fun for least effort is gonna be going back to metal stuff for me.. So I'm in the market for a 2nd guitar with active humbuckers.

. .So I'm looking at Schecter, Ibanez, Jackson and I'm really liking Schecter guitars for most bang for the buck. I'm not a floyd rose fan, and with schecter I can get a thru-neck guitar with EMG's and they look and feel great for under 400 bucks. I don't see many other guitar companies offering as much for that low of a cost. The C1 Platinum is a good example of what I'm talking about. This guitar pictured though is for sale on my local craigslist, I'm hoping its still available, $350 bucks!? Hell yeah

>>69922325
Yeah, I've got a Damien with passive EMG's and a Jackson Soloist X with active EMG's and I'm seriously considering ripping the actives out for Bare Knuckles. I love the Jackson and I played the hell out of the Schecter. They're both decent instruments for the price.

>>69921592
Some of the new Gibbos have some Rosewood alternative thing, and it looks like garbage.

>>69921950
With an Epi LP Special it's probably not worth spending any money to fix an issue like that, you're better off just moving on to a better guitar.

Also, PRS are a meme here but the SE's are great guitars for the price.

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Post your guitar strings

what are some fun, groovy, slow guitar solos? Stuff like the one in smells like teen spirit or hey by the pixies

>tfw started learning the Major G Scale

Been playing for about 7 months now. Why are bar chords easier for me than power chords?

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>>69922817
>tfw you live in a humid tropical shithole

>>69922904
>being a priest

>>69922904
>>69922930
>????

>>69922817
Too lazy to get an image, but D'Addario prosteels. I wish they made balanced tension prosteels though.

>>69922851
Should have started on the C major, it makes more sense in a theorical context as it has no accidentals.
Barre chords probably seem easier because you usually hold them longer before changing them, while power chords can get hectic in some cases.

>>69922599
>Bare Knuckles
I've never played on those pickups, I'll hafta check em out in person somewhere sometime. The only thing I don't like about the Damien is the bolt on neck. I definitely notice a difference in sustain. I've had guitars in the past where I've used Seymour Duncan Blackouts on one guitar, and EMG's on another and I love the tone for heavy guitars. But gotta keep my tele for everything else

>>69922977
whats the difference between regular and balanced tension?

>>69922977
>accidentals

what?

>>69923051
Flat and sharp notes

>>69922990
Regular sets of strings have some kind of arbitrary decision on the gauges, while the balanced tension match the gauge with the tension so that it stays equal across all strings.
It's kinda niche though the difference between the two isn't huge, but it's nice having the same response everywhere, for bending or dynamics.

>>69923051
accidentals are the sharps or flats you place before the measure so you know which key you're in, in the key of C (= C major), there are none.

>>69923069
Strings guy here, cheers for the explanation, I saw the balanced tension version when ordering my strings the other day but decided against it, sounds like a nice idea but I'm not to fussy about it

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>>69922989
There is a difference, I bought that Damien for 140 bucks as a beater but I ended up loving the neck and played it for 3 years straight and buffed part of the flat finish to a high gloss..
Elite Strat is now my main.

>>69923094
>sounds like a nice idea but I'm not to fussy about it
Yeah, it's not something I want as bad as the blinding brightness of prosteels so I can do without it.

>>69923136
>I ended up loving the neck and played it for 3 years straight
Was it one of the super chunky ones ? They feel awful to me.

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I'm going to jam with an experienced band tommorow. I'm pretty green when it comes to playing with others. Any tips bros?

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>>69919017
>I just spent $1,800 to buy and import this guitar from Japan

who /spent $1,500 + on a guitar/ here?

>>69923419
>black, 7 stringed """SG"""
why

>>69923419
bet you feel real fucking stupid right now don'tcha?

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>>69923419
Yep, there are others, too

>>69923410
Just be yourself :^)

>>69923419
>Spending that much for a guitar with EMGs

Enjoy your waste of money.

>>69923419
>people falling for this obvious bait

>>69923480
>>69923483
>never heard of ESP

top pleb

>>69923419
I spent $2900 AUD on a guitar but our market for guitars is fucked

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>>69923530
>bait

:^)

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r8 my Christmas present /gg/

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>>69923563
i dont understand...

>>69923563
what

>>69923563
chugga/10

>>69923538
Having heard of ESP makes your decision even more stupid, you've spend almost $2k on something that looks like it's $500
Should have bought an Horizon III or a Mystique faggot.

>>69923602
>Horizon III
>gay "superstrat" design

thanks, m8; but I already have a Fender MiA Strat

>>69923563
I think your guitar has autism

>>69923555
honestly man there is no difference in sound between the $600 LTD version of the same thing. but to each his own

>>69923613
gay superstrat is better than edgy sg
and you can play the victim card because you're a homo

>>69923619
What are you even getting when you pay so much for a guitar if there is no difference in sound?

>>69923619
the reason why I purchased a legit ESP Viper is because I've already owned two LTD Viper 7 strings (the 407 and 417). I disliked both because of the shitty pickups (81-7 EMGs sound awful), fretboard (cheap rosewood vs. ebony) and construction (Indonesia vs. Japan).

The ESP looks better, plays better, sounds better, and feels better. Anyone who says the LTDs sound "the same" or "no different" don't know what they're talking about.

>>69923502
That would be awkwardly staring at my feet while gently playing open e with spaghetti falling outta my pockets, not a great plan desu.

>>69923636
>gay is better than edgy

sounds like something a cocksucker would say

>>69923653
https://www.amazon.com/ESP-Viper-Viper-1000-Electric-Guitar/dp/B004Y3IZGU/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1482854492&sr=1-1&keywords=viper+1000

ebony fretboard / 81/85
sounds the same to me bro

>>69923788
Indonesian trash. it "sounds the same to you, bro" probably because you've never heard an ESP 7 string guitar before and you play LTD overpriced trash

Which are less shit: Line 6 Spiders or Marshall MGs?

>>69924091
Marshall MG

>>69923955
>Indonesian trash
>buying into the factory origin meme.
In my experience with recording and gigging, the biggest factors in quality of sound are the amp head, the pickups, whether the guitar is a bolt on neck or if its set neck, the microphone used on the cab (even different sm57s have slight variations in sound) ... after all of that would come things like cabinet (since almost everyone uses birch construction with celestion 30s), then very last would be wood of guitar body, gold plated cables, fresh strings, etc.

I've played on both and it wouldn't be worth the difference in cost. If I had money to burn and all my other equipment was top notch, sure, go ahead and throw away 600 or 700 bucks more to have the ESP name on the neck and feel pride in knowing your guitar wasn't made in a 3rd world country. But if you laid down a track with your ESP viper, then plugged in an LTD 1000 and laid down the same track, and someone played em back for you I bet you couldnt tell the difference. And if someone blindfolded you and had you play the two guitars, you probably couldn't tell a difference.

>>69922168
I would think that would cause all kinds of friction and tuning problems. You ideally want all the contact points between the string and the guitar's hardware to be as low friction as possible for better tuning stability.

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>>69923735
>sounds like something a cocksucker would say
Spot on.
Seriously if I'm going to spend that much on a guitar it better look like it's worth it.

>>69924091
If you'd put them side to side I probably wouldn't notice any difference, they're both ass, the MG just has the advantage of having a fancy Marshall logo.
At least the new Spider V have that stupid 8 bit preset which seems a bit more fun to mess around with.

>>69924091
save your money and keep your eye on craigslist. Everyone once in awhile some nice gems pop up at a decent price.

>>69919733
you are mistaking P90's for soapbar pickups like the ones in jazzmasters

>>69923955
>trash
>indonesia

confirmed for buying overpriced guitars

>tfw you don't know which memes to believe

>>69924130
>and someone played em back for you I bet you couldnt tell the difference

I bet I could

>And if someone blindfolded you and had you play the two guitars, you probably couldn't tell a difference.

I definitely could. One's a 7 string, the other is a 6 string. pretty straightforward

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Any other bass players in here?
Gf just got me this guy for Christmas. It sounds pretty good actually.

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the memes keep on coming

>>69924462
disgusting

Whats the /gg/ approved pick

>>69924441
I really dislike the 3+1 headstock, but congrats anyway.

>>69924462
Even as someone who likes the aesthetic of headless guitars, that looks like utter shit.

>>69924545
jazz III

>>69924545
Jazz III
Fender Heavy
Orange, Yellow, and Green Tortex
Dunlop Jazztones 205 and 208

I think these are my favorites.

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>>69924510
>>69924574
>yfw its already sold out

>>69924574
Admittedly, I thought that was a little weird. My previous bass had no headstock

>>69924462
>rondo

utter trash

>>69924601
>>69924574
for acoustic? It is quite thick no?

>>69924777
For acoustic I would probably use a thinner pick if I'm planning on doing a lot of strumming.

fuck buying/selling used shit
fuck having to deal with random ass morons
fuck having to deal with lowballing immigrants who only buy shit to flip it
fuck having to let strangers into your house to eye up all of your valuables

my time is worth something. it's pointless to spend 20 hours to save 100 bucks. I will be paying shit full price from now on.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-EWquKhZTg

more johann appreciation

>>69925136
I dislike it.

>>69919834
>crazy horse
pretty sure he used old black most of the time with crazy horse and it has a humbucker from a firebird on it

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>>69925067
>he actually gives strangers from craigslist his address instead of meeting them at a coffee shop or local parking lot

>>69925067
Just sell and buy on reverb

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>>69925067
>let strangers into your house

you're doing it all wrong. now you're going to get robbed.

>>69924091
Marshall MG has even worse distortion than the Spider

>>69925067
>letting strangers into your house
shit nigga wateru doin

>>69925136
boring.

>>69925067
>fuck having to deal with lowballing immigrants who only buy shit to flip it

hey fuck you I always pay asking price

>>69925338

I always suggest local fast food joints to meet cause I'll be damned if I'm walking into some Billy Bob's redneck shack

>>69925338
>>69925355
>>69925371
this is how it's done in my corner of the world.

everything I have purchased second hand (from kijiji, not CL) I have done so by going to somebody else's house.

I understand that it's always a risk, and it does bother me, but still the odds are extremely low.

>>69925411
I'm not saying all immigrants all lowballers

I'm saying all lowballers are immigrants

>>69925411
yeah, if i'm selling a suggest a coffee shop close to me, if i'm buying i ask for a parking lot or coffee shop close to them, and usually a little ways in between the distances.

>played for ten years
>finally getting into pedals and effects
There's so much I don't even know where to go.

>>69925432

Oh yeah, even here in our country they'll try to lowball you.

A friend of mine was selling his chink Rickenbacker 4003 copy, asking 250 usd for it, lowballer offered him 200 and was later selling it on Facebook for 400.

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>>69925457
Buy everything

>>69925457
decide what you are looking for, and try to buy clones or used pedals. never pay full price.

check out cheaperpedals dot com as a starting point.

>>69925457
could always start out with a cheap multi-FX and have a grand old time. then you buy good versions of the effects you like if you wish.

>>69925136
holy fuck they're so bad

kys if you like this, at least the Strokes had a couple of alright songs when they were ripping off television and TVU, these guys are just garbage

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Opinions on PRS SE Angelus acoustics, have been looking for an acoustic and tried all of the models out and love the tone of all of them, compared to other guitars of their price I still prefer them but I've heard they're overpriced from a few people money isn't exactly a problem but is there a specific model or brand I should really consider over them?

>>69925707
if you're looking for more value Seagull is hard to beat, Yamaha is great at that price range too

how2 memorize the note wheel?

Carrie Fisher died

>>69925861
Meh. I was more upset the other day for George Michael.

>>69925861
crackhead stacy BTFO

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>>69919298
Metal guitars with Dad guitars are the best combo

>>69922977

Does it really make a difference what scales you learn from a practical point of view? surely you just learn the patterns for the different types (ie major, the minors, pentatonic and other niche shit) and just play into whatever key you want. Accidentals are only unique when it comes to notating them.

>>69925922
>tripfag
reeeee

>>69925974
He's a namefag, still an insufferable faggot but not a trip, newfag

>>69925922
If you start from C, then you know where every natural, which you'll just alter afterwards as you go through the circle of fifths/fourths

>>69925067
Do all my selling off Reverb and in the past year I've owned over 40+ guitars. My entire rig costs $5000 but due to all the profits I made it was only $1,200 out of pocket. Patience is key and knowing your market is key, I dealt in Fenders in rare colors and rare models where there's a scarce market and I sell $10-$20 less than the next guy but first making sure I profit at least $100 from how much I got it.

what are some good books that will teach me guitar and or music in general?

>>69926101
sounds like a hassle though, shipping that shit out

Not really guitar related but it's sort of an instrument I guess so I figured maybe someone here might know. Does anyone know how much a Technics 1200 mk2 sells for these days? I'm looking through ebay and the prices are just all over the place. I was hoping to get maybe $700 - $800 for a pair.

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I want pic related so bad

>>69926112
did you read all of the books in the op?

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>>69925457
Go to Guitar Center, buy a pedal, try it out at home, and return it. If you liked it but it used or a clone, if not repeat with another pedal. Also buying cheap $20 pedal clones like Behringer, Danelectro and those Mini companies are good starting points for certain effects like chorus or delay and help you get a better understanding or if you like it you can upgrade to a higher quality

>>69926142
i have to buy one

>>69925457
Pedals are a meme. I've bought a dozen pedal over the years and the only one I ever used regularly is an equalizer pedal.

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>>69923563
>what in the unholy hell is that and how do I get my hands on one

>>69926114
Not really especially when I'd jew them out and charge $50 for S&H when the total is $20-$30 at the post office. I reuse all the boxes and material I get from my personal collection or if I buy a guitar online and flip it locally

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Favorite bass guitar colors?

Trying to figure out what I should paint mine now that I'm not going to have a pickguard on it. Kind of liking this

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>>69925847
Nevermind, just wrote them as A-BC-D-EF-G on a paper and let the hyphens represent sharp/flat.

>>69926538
Bb and Eb are a thing though.

>>69926579
Don't small b's mean "flat" and wouldn't those be represented by the hyphens?

>>69924441
My ex got me a sub bass last christmas, sounds pretty good

>>69924441
Picked myself up a Schecter Riot 5 for Christmas. I'm enjoying my gift too.

I just want to remind everyone here who received a /gg/ related gift to go thank the person who was generous enough to buy it for you. You never really know how much an extra "thank you so much" will go.

>>69926242
horrid use of greentext

>>69926350
Lake placid with a brushed silver pickguard. You also gotta have them pickup and bridge covers. Maple neck.

>>69926827
>t-thanks for the $25 guitar center gift card
yeahno

>>69926856
ungrateful cunt, you could use that for cables, strings, save it for your next big purchase towards something you want. any way you could spend it, that's 25 free dollars towards whatever you buy. go hug your fucking grandmother or some shit and say thanks

>>69926856
Imagine being this ungrateful

>>69926908
>>69926915
>giving money to the big jew companies
found the betacucks

>>69926843
I would love to have a good pickguard on it but unfortunately it's a pre-cut/drilled body, and I called the shop that did it and they said I'd have to try and find a custom pickguard if I wanted one so I'll probably hold off on it for now
Lake Placid is a pretty neat color though, I've usually seen it on Jazzmasters but I'll look into it

>>69926856
I got that exact gift card and spent it on a pair of earplugs for concerts
Best $25 I've ever spent

>>69926935
I'm glad I don't know you irl, you seem like an insufferable faggot.

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>>69926935
>proceeds to shop at a supermarket
>drives a car that uses gas
>lives in a home that he didn't build for himself on land that isn't taxed
(you)'re the real betacuck here goyim

>>69926856
You fucking cunt

>>69926980
The only problem with lake placid, is having to dress around it when you play live. Yeah, I'm a fucking fag for dressing around a guitar, but appearances matter.

>>69926999
>implying i do any of these things
wew

>>69926989
>>69927000
>mad

>>69927019
you absolutely do all of those things, go away you underaged faggot

>>69927019
Its hard to shitpost from a tree, you fucking dipshit.

>>69927032
>>69927047
>be lame suburban middle class white kid
>get fed up and change life drastically
>grab guitar
>walk/hitchhike to wilderness
>build cabin in bumfuck nowhere secluded from everyone
>farm/hunt/harvest food
>build computer and satellite for internet by scratch
>shitpost on /gg/
checkm8 atheists

>>69927114
ha ha, you sure got me !!!

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>>69919533
S470DXQM, anon.

>>69927156
Please post some clyps when you get it.

>>69927017
Oh yeah true

Honestly the more I look at it the more I think that the Placid Blue is really worth doing when you have the second color to complement it. Maybe some kind of dark blue thing, or maybe I'll just do a regular old dark wood stain and call it a day

>>69927171
>uploading my music to the internet
feels fripp man

>>69927231
Or going with a black pickguard. That pretty much opens you up to just being able to wear blue jeans and sort of match. I would just stay away from neons and shit. Greens, too.

>>69925560
wooahaha

>>69927156
Yeah let us know what you think. I've been wanting to buy one for a while now, but I can't justify spending that kind of money on a pedal.

>>69926827
my sister got me a really nice strap i'm so happy with it

>>69927314
pics

>>69924829
>he doesn't use thick picks on copper strings

>>69926538
>>69926579
>>69926648
A D# is the same as a Eb and so on (assuming their in the same octave)

>>69926648
b are flats yes, and B flat (Bb) is a thing, the hyphens in that case are kinda wrong.

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>>69919060

which is why any good guitarist will learn and practice (most things) without an amp.

BUT

obviously good gear makes you sound better, and if other people like how it sounds, then you're a good musician.

>>69927314
Someone got me one of those fender vintage tweed straps and I'm mildly happy with it

>>69927527
>A D# is the same as a Eb and so on (assuming their in the same octave)
They're the same notes, but D# implies the key of E/B/F#/C# while Eb implies the keys of Bb/Eb/Ab/Db/Gb/Cb ; they're not the same things.

>>69927585
that's what I meant
>I'm just too retarded to explain things clearly

>>69927654
>>I'm just too retarded to explain things clearly
Nah it's just that it's not about octave, when you're writing in a key, you write the accidentals just for one octave but they apply to every octaves.

>>69926827
Thanks

>>69927541
I think you're kinda wrong. The hyphen is behind the B. Therefore it represents B flat or A sharp. The only thing that's wrong is he needs another hypen before A or after G to represent A flat or G sharp.

>>69919060
Who is better, Steve Vai or Kevin Shields? Not saying there is a correct answer, but I certainly enjoy the way Kevin Shields plays more than Vai. I think Shields is more creative in his pursuit of tone and style over technicality and I think that sound is just as honorable a pursuit as technical ability. Of course people who copy him and just use a shit ton of reverb because "that's what shoegaze is" are just as lazy and unimaginative as the mindless shredders who can play a million notes a minute.

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>>69927166
But I don't want a floyd-rose!

>>69927759
Oh right. But you usually write NOTE flat, not flat NOTE

>>69927764
Vai isn't just about playing lots of notes though, he might come off like that because that's what he's known for and what a lot of people like in him, but that's not the whole of his skills.

>>69927835
>Oh right. But you usually write NOTE flat, not flat NOTE
True, but I think his idea was to just write the 12 note chromatic scale linearly but with hyphens representing enharmonic notes. Like he's essentially drawing a diagram of the piano keyboard but with hyphens representing the black keys.

>>69927786
I feel you, I wish they had more models with a regular trem that arent gios

>>69925468
Dropping the price $50 isn't really lowballing

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>>69927764
Vai is infinitely more beautiful than Shields though.

So I got a ukulele for christmas. My question is where the fuck do I start with it?

I have a small penis. Is it still possible to be good at guitar?

Is there some kind of penis amplifier I can get for under $100? I really want to learn guitar.

>>69927914
start by putting it in the trash can

>>69927931
Everyone knows the one with the smallest penis is the drummer.

>>69927835
Yeah that's not what I was implying. I know Vai is one of the more tasteful shredder types, and he has a style about him. I didn't want to pick low hanging fruit as the example like Malmsteen because I wanted my point to be that both the pursuit of sound and technicality are fine as long as you are actually trying to push boundaries.
>>69927907
Haha I prefer the grimey 90's look to the polished 80's look. Also Shields has Belinda Butcher, which is big points for him.

>>69927948
I knew this was going to be a response and I kinda feel the same
>but I kinda want to learn it for shits and giggles

>>69927914
become a trap, dress like a cutesy girl, put a flower in your hair, and do a cover of an indie twee song and put it on youtube

>>69927962
wrong, it's the multi-instrumentalists. they're compensating for something

>>69928145
https://youtu.be/-WZH0M29JnQ

>>69928202
Oops I mean to post the one with actual video.

https://youtu.be/8erNetIbwxw

>>69928202
>>69928219
who started this shitty way of singing? i want to stick an ice pick in my ears when i hear it

What is a good guitar and amp for 1300€ max? I'm looking for something with a humbucker and/or P90(s). Single coils will work too, as long as i have a humbucker in the bridge. And inb4 buy used, the used market is dead here and even if you find something decent, it will just be cheaper to buy it online from Germany

>>69928245
I don't know but I hate it too. It makes me think "Indie" like the songs that play during the credits in Juno.

>>69927907
Kevin Shields has the biggest penis in guitar history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5ggv-5s4bs&app=desktop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdpnhCe_QEc&ab_channel=PhillipMcKnight

>>69928617
How long do I have to play till I'm this good?

hey guys I just bought the Dunlop Classic Crybaby Wah pedal (it's my first pedal, ever). How'd I do? What do you all think of this pedal? Any tips on how to make the most of it?

It was USD 110, but after gift cards and discounts I ended up paying 80 outta pocket; I think it was fair t.b.h.

>>69928709
most of that is just tasteful pentatonics, so not very long once you know how to build chords and scales off any given note.

>>69928617
>jewish.
disgusting

>>69928761
how to build chords and scales off any given note? (Sorry if it's a beginner question, I'm still pretty new to guitar)

>>69919017
Just started classical lessons after 17 years of being self taught, and boy do I regret being self taught. It's true what they say, it's almost more difficult for someone self taught for a long time than a beginner when learning classical.

Anyone else ever have this dilemma?

>>69927759
Original anon here. Yeah, I simply forgot the last hyphen (before A or after G)

>>69928761
>once you know how to build chords and scales off any given note

By that I assume you mean changing keys as a solo guitarist? That just comes from practice with a little help of similar voiced chords to subtle down the individual half steps.

>>69928824
Can't go wrong with simply learning pentatonic scales and minor relativity (circle of fifths). Chord structuring, knowing what goes where and all that jazz will come naturally.

>>69928982
what did you find out you were doing wrong? for me it was thumb over the neck

>>69928824
Learn all the inversions of popular chords
Learn the relative major/minor of all popular chords
Learn the intervals for each scale ie: Maj scale (2+2+1+2+2+2+1) 2 being a whole tone, 1 being a semitone.

>>69929082
Bicycle-ing when finger picking mainly. Using the small knuckle to "pluck" instead of moving your finger in a backwards motion from your largest knuckle (like touching your palm with your fingers).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gQLV99BDbc&ab_channel=JaredDines

How many Chapman guitars do you see?

>>69929122
>>69929082
to add, i'm fingerpick fag who posts here every so often. I'm not new to finger picking at all i've been doing it exclusively for about 5 years, but it's bluegrass style and i've been doing it all wrong which is why I've hit a plateau. Self taught people can only get so good because of little things like that

>>69925560
>when they were ripping off television and TVU

they literally sound nothing like television. i see the tvu influence kind of, but they were definitely influenced by the cars more than television. the guys in the band said they had never heard of them until people started drawing comparisons

>>69927156
holy fuck i need this pedal immediately. buy it then upload tons of clyps

>>69928202
>>69928245
>>69928272
yeah it's annoying as fuck, and there's always a ukulele that's slightly out of tune
>>69928761
>most of that is just tasteful pentatonics
doesn't sound like that to me

>>69929125
Charlie Parra is pretty good but I really don't like that Kirk Hammett fingertip vibrato he put on the end of his tapping thing. He should fret the note with his right hand and produce the vibrato with his left hand rather than the fretting finger.

>>69928617
>>69928709
Not long, there's really nothing exciting about this. It's all safe within the key 4/4 noodling familiar shapes.

It's the frozen yogurt and consensual missionary coitus of music

>>69929296
Man, I love frozen yogurt and consensual missionary coitus

does anyone here sing? how did you learn?

>>69929371
yeah thats the point, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it but it gets old once you've done it a handful of times.

>>69929376
Lessons, don't learn on your own. Or you'll end up like>>69928202 and every other shitty youtube/the voice singer

>>69929122
what do you mean by "bicycle-ing"? i don't really get it

>>69929392
makes sense, only had sex once
But I've had frozen yogurt loads of times

>>69929450
when you pluck the string bending at the smallest knuckle.

Typically if you bicycle, your whole hand will move and your fingers will have space between them, you'll notice your hand will move to add some extra help to picking. I'll record an example and post it to youtube for you if you stick around

>tfw you walk into guitar center

https://youtu.be/z2RalGnY4Nk

>>69929516
>I'll record an example and post it to youtube for you if you stick around
yeah please. and include proper technique as well, i wanna see the difference

>>69929560
kk give me like 15 mins

>>69929376
By just singing as often as possible, you'll grow a stronger and in-tune voice by doing that alone.

Of course that only cuts it for your generic band vocalist. Wouldn't dissuade anyone from vocal coaching if they want to be the best they can.

What's a good cheap beginner guitar to learn the basics with? I'm thinking of trying to get into playing and I would just like something reliable and cheap to test the waters with. Also, I kind of want to play bass, but would it be more beneficial to learn guitar first and then move on to bass later?

>>69929622
gibson les paul

>>69929529
kek

>>69929622
Yamaha pacifica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVF_w5XvlLg&ab_channel=acidbath32

How long did you last?

>>69929622
go to a guitar store and see which guitar's the most comfortable for you

>>69929664
>guitarists
>musicians
lost

>>69929296
Know how I know you suck?

>>69929672
I personally don't think this is a great idea when you are just starting. Get something people say is solid and fun to play. I had a really shitty Squier as my first electric guitar and it almost turned me off from playing altogether it was so shit.

>>69929814
Forgot to mention my point, which was that I played that squier in guitar center before I bought it and thought it played fine. Only later did I grow to hate it.

>>69929664
This doesn't make me cringe, it just makes me sad, its not nice to make fun of people still learning how to play guitar, the only people I cringe at are people who are mean to beginners

>>69929911
It makes me cringe because I was those people once. Cocky as hell but nowhere close to "good"

>>69929814
If this is truly something you want to do, you won't let a garbage instrument stop you. Maybe you shouldn't' have been doing it in the first place

A Squire is fine.

>>69929664
>doesn't include this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O72lItS4OA

1:15

amazed the drummer keeps his composure, I'd be hysterics

>>69929560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zq6wB0Gm5g

here you go anon

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>>69929939
I get what you mean but its hard to escape the feeling people are laugh because "lol u suck"

>>69929963
Second for Squiers are fine guitars

>>69930035
had a lot of coffee so pretty jittery, sloppy but you get the idea.

>>69930035
not that guy but how should you optimally position your pinky finger?

I've heard everything from bridging it, holding straight to emphasis chords, curl as you do or mimick your ring finger.

>>69930053
>>69930035
ah i kinda see what you mean. plucking with your whole hand using your wrist vs, following through smoothly with your fingers. nice playing btw

i guess i took some of this shit for granted having taken classical lessons when i was younger

>>69930151
on picking hand? or fretting hand? Two totally different stories but equally important
>>69930165
Exactly, 0 wrist action. It needs to be all in your large knuckle.

>>69930052
only to other musicians

if you can strum wonderwall you're a guitar god to everyone else

>>69930224
picking hand.

also there's an argument you should utilise it, but if John Williams doesn't then I don't see much reason too either.

>>69928716
That pedal sucks

>>69930230
Other musicians should be the last ones to judge, as they know first hand how hard it is to learn an instrument

>>69930263
>Didn't get the pedal you want for Christmas? :^)

>>69930254
Classical musicians will teach you to mimic your ring finger. Something like flamenco will be a totally different story alot more right hand acrobatics. Classical musicians don't use the pinky what so ever, where as flamenco will utilize it in numerous techniques and even use it for leverage with certain techniques.

>>69926191
>Be young guitarist
>Buy/Sell tons of guitar gear on CL and profiting and becoming a tone nazi
>Start buying tons of pedals
>Build pedalboard out of an oldschool suitcase
>Get tired of the pedal meme
>Start buying used rack equipment
>Eventually opt to stop bringing Head & cab to shows.. Instead go DI into a full rack. EQ/Distortion/Delay/Tuner / etc all part of rack inside a road case
>Eventually grow up
>Nothing beats a simple setup with a guitar tube amp.

No reason to hate on people for getting their fill on pedals and effects. It was fun to play with, but at least for me, when your playing shows, simplicity is best. Quick setup, less things to go wrong live. I use two pedals on my live setup... I have my Boss Tuner and Noise Suppressor pedals sitting on my amp head, and then it runs into a wireless. So I basically plug my head into my cab, switch on my wireless, and everything is good to go. The only other pedal I get occasional use out of is a delay pedal. If there's one underused/underrated pedal IMO it's the noise suppressor. Soundguys get a hardon for you everytime. "This kids got a fucking noise suppressor? HELL YEA, and he's using a wireless.. thats some next level shit"

>>69930230
>Tfw you suck at guitar and are just starting out and your pleb family hears you practicing the pentatonic scale and they think you're good enough to play in front of people

>>69930342
not sure if it was clear how I typed it. But basically I just have Mesa Dual Rectifier Head on 4x12 cab with my NS-2 and Tuner on top. No rack, no mess of pedals and cables all over the place. Easy livin

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>>69930369
if your practice amp doesn't have a headphone/record out, think about spending 50 bucks or so on another one. I've got a shitty little line 6 I use for practicing at home. Nobody hears a thing

>>69930323
you'd think so, but I know a top level session musician who says it's the most bitchiest and egotistical field out there

maybe that's just at the very top level though where everyone has to be perfect

>>69929529
king hack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E62iA6KCIQ&ab_channel=G4ViralVideos

>>69930417
Anything to do with art in general always has its pretentious egomaniacs. Telling someone they are good at something is a helluva drug

>>69930417
I think theres a real degree of ego involved in some people that play an instrument for them as opposed to for the music, for the longest time I used to get real petty about guitarist that were better than me (which made no sense because I was a complete beginner at the time, so literally everyone was better than me), after a while and as I got a little better I started playing more and more just to make good sounds, but I guess for some people its not about the art but about showing off how good they are, which is fair enough, but I guess it's missing the point a little

>>69930417
I legitimately learn guitar so I can play songs for myself when i'm bored and lonely kind of like banjo players in the lonesome country

>>69927156
once you get it post a clyp of you saying betcha cant play this then play a horrible flute solo

>>69930407
If you're just getting it to fuck around on, it probably doesn't matter.

But if you're trying to build an inexpensive rig and it's a first guitar, I'd get something on the level of a MIM Fender or a VM Squire and a decent modeling amp, even if it's a THR10 for your bedroom.

>>69925457
This was me, kinda. Ive used multi fx and sims in daws, but i couldnt tell you a brand besides boss, or a pedal name. I just started trying some out, and listening the demos online. It started to make sense, for delay i bought a dd6 cause it was a steal and all i needed(dd7 would be nicer because it has external tap tempo). For fuzz i got a big muff, basic but useful. For OD I got a ts9, i hate it, but it came with a guitar for $25 more. For octave i got a pitch fork, does a lot more than octaves though(wish it had independant blend knobs for high and low pitches). I got a bunch of old DOD pedals for $20 each at various pawn shops for things i dont use a lot, like a chorus and a phaser. I kept going, getting deals or getting new ones as i wanted a soind.

Go on youtube, look up "different types of distortion/modulation/delay" and that will explain a bulk of pedals. Things that might not show up are pitch shifters, reverbs, bit crusher, tremolo, compressor, eq, wah, envelope filter, maybe clean boost but its grouped with distortion pedals a lot...i think that covers the common ones. Youll hear representations of each sound, and youll be able to link it to different things youve heard. Find the types you want, and hit up some forums, youll find tons of opinions an reccomendations on specific pedals.

Honestly, im at a point i dont even enjoy playing all that much, ive moved on to cloning and modding pedals. It keeps me playing, testing them out.

trying to jump from banjo to guitar

the tuning is so confusing. Is it wrong to learn open tuning?

>>69927156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjNaxiNqHnI
What the fuck, this thing sounds like cheap midi ass trash. Why would anyone want it?

>>69930485
best video of all time

>>69930035
damn i gotta stop moving my hand about

>digitech

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What do you guys think of the fender mustang 3?

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>>69930806
God bless

>>69927156
>>69930668
It's bound to sound unnatural since most of the time you will be playing outside the original instruments' range. Chords are arranged differently on guitar too.

>>69930735
I didn't start running into problems untill recently when I started trying to do some more complicated stuff. I think I peaked at Avalanche by Leonard choen. When I started learning classical music like pangini it started to become physically impossible and the intonation was frustrating and I thought it was my left hand the entire time. Turns out it was my picking hand, which I never thought had an issue.

>>69930545
Comfy desu

>>69930545
Looking through some of my old songs as we speak. All complete shite but I had fun writing them.

Unless by some stroke of luck I make it as an artist I'll never have a career in music. Which is all cool, the strenuous pressure and devotion of being a professional doesn't sound the life for me.

>>69930485
pretty inspiration desu

>>69930668
>not knowing the mellotron sound
the instrument these pedals are based on was created while technology wasn't where it is now. if you want exact sound replication, dont look at this pedal. this pedal sounds pretty fucking close to the real mellotron though. this is the same shit as people focusing too much on vidya graphics.

>>69930894
it's just super nice writing songs and just lettin stuff out. It's super nice when you can write some tunes with a buddy, or just whip out a guitar at a campfire and play some beautiful finger pickin'

>tfw thread is going well but the squier players decide they need to be heard

>>69931019
Although all my song sucks I take great pleasure in writing them, I've never really been able to express myself better, I know it sounds super pretentious but its true

Pls help

Storm st-15
Or squier sp10

For a first and basic amp

Are any of these ok?

>>69931075
There is literally nothing wrong with playing a Squier

>>69931075
true this is actually one of the better threads in a long time.
>>69931079
That's what matters man, I mean if that weren't true punk wouldn't exist.

>>69931122
I'm pretty sure most forms of music wouldn't exist if that were true, but you have the digits to back up your statement so who am I to argue

>>69931177
well you got some digits yourself.

>>69931194
we got got equal digits so I guess we're both right?

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>>69931225
depends if these are double digits

>>69928617
Thanks for introducing me to this dude. He's really good.

Feels kinda bad that he basically called my current improv style shit at the beginning of this video:

https://youtu.be/sA4cbr69LwA

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>slapping and popping on an electric guitar

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>>69919060
yeah, fun though

>>69930782
I have a 2 and I like it.

>>69931322
you win, digits dude

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>>69926350
>Tfw favourite colour is purple but almost all purple guitars look like total shit

>>69931400
shit, it's even still.

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>>69931407

>>69931081
Get a Fender Frontman 10g

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>>69931433
digits?

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>>69931445
Thanks for proving me right anon

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>>69931407
just make your own

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>>69931407

NEW THREAD TIME GOGOGOGOGO

>>69931512

>>69931512

>>69931512

>>69931512

>>69931512

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In this book(downloaded from the links at the top) the author shows a Ebm7/9 on this page. The diagram says it starts at the 3rd fret making the root note a D? Am I reading this wrong or misunderstanding the theory?

How do you know when to change picks?

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>>69931738
Bad bait, bad bait.

>>69931450
I got a marshall mg15cfr

Did i dun goofed?

It was $100

>>69931544
The root note of a chord isn't always the lowest note in pitch. That said, I don't get how It's an Ebm7 anything chord because it has a natural 7th degree (the D note). It would work in melodic or harmonic minor, but I would write the chord name as Ebminmaj7add9 or something instead of Ebm7/9.

Not too concise, but I think it's more descriptive. When I see Ebm7, I'm thinking it's going to have a Db in it rather than a D natural.

>>69931328
>Feels kinda bad that he basically called my current improv style shit
nah he's just saying that it's sort of outdated (and it is). jazz is hard as fuck. modern jazz is just super complex with tons of subs and altered scales, it really takes a thorough knowledge of jazz history to understand fully.

>>69929963
Have you ever played a truly shitty guitar? Like with high as fuck action, shitty plywood tier body that breaks, shitty tuners, and all around shit?
It's a nightmare. Switching from that to a decent enough, slightly more spend guitar was like a dream.