/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

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>almost 2017
>wasting money on expensive amps instead of buying an ice block

What's the way to go when you want to start transcribing and jamming to stuff like funk, soul and RnB? Do you just find the chord tones of each chord change, figure out if they're major or minor and add jazz embellishments where it fits or is there a more theoretical approach to take?

is there a safe way to into noise rock a la les razilles denudes without giving myself tinnitus? i'd like to avoid that if at all possible

should i get the Harley Benton ST-20 BK Standard B-Stock or the Rocktile Pro ST60-BK if i want a really cheap e-guitar ?

>>69904966

You must complete story mode to unlock Albert Collins.

>>69905277
Mother fucking KEK

>>69905305
le haha

>>69905150
Use your amp's volume knob

>>69905364
then it becomes a problem of being able to hear the guitars over the drums

What's a good book or website for getting started at fingerstyle?

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Just got this, pretty banging

Best semi-hollow under $1000? Used is okay.

>>69905404
That's an issue in any genre. You should be wearing plugs if you dont want tinnitus. I have tinnitus and it fucking sucks so much. If you don't want to be driven nuts by the thought of silence, protect your ears with plugs or keep the volume down.

>>69905404
Then use earplugs. I used to play in noise improv settings and most of the time you don't really play any louder than your average metal band.

>>69905225
What the fuck is an "e-guitar"

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>>69905476
Gibson Midtown, even comes with Burstbuckers for that sweet original PAF sound.

>>69905473
How loud is it? How much headroom does it have

What strap do you use for electric?

Shitty stock strap mine came with broke, I saw good reviews for a $5 Ernie Ball strap.

>>69905659
The basic ones are fine. I use a squishy neoprene one for bass but that's pure luxury and not necessary.

>>69905509
An electric guitar. That anon is probably german and refers to the electric guitar as 'E-Gitarre'.

You're sitting on a couch at a Christmas Party and a guy hands you an old acoustic guitar.
Play us a song Anon.
What's the song you pick?

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>>69905541
I think I'm gonna do it.

>>69905766
Smoke on the Water followed by Seven Nation Army. Then strum D, C, and G chords

>>69905766

Classical Gas. Everybody loves that song.

>>69905766
Just play the 4 chord song and ask "Do you know this?"

>>69904851
>one pickup ring mounted and other body mounted
>(((edge III)))
Pretty shitty ibanez

>>69905826
Good enough for the guy who owns it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHklv582HKQ

>>69905826
Bro, do you even Chon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-6vLfDEpL8

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>>69905818
>doodle-dee doo doo

>>69905796
It's a great choice, the Midtown Customs look good but the fretboard is made of richlite (if that matters to you) I think it's a fine material. The standards have rosewood.

>>69905766
i say
>lol an acoutist? real guys? an coutsic?

>>69905950

Or flamenco if you know any. Flamenco goes over well always.,

>>69905766
a Townes Van Zandt or Blaze Foley fingerpicking tune.

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>>69905766

>tune down to C
>play a couple harmonics
>this is a little ditty I call PURITANICAL MISANTHROPIC PHANTASMAGORIA PART 2
>commence the chugga

>>69905630
Its a valve, so its relatively loud for a 10w. Its best loud, if you like a gainy clear crips sound

>>69906255
you never tune for black metal. varg used a capo on his first few releases to sound even treblier. c is for doom. chugging is for neither of those genres.

>>69906384
fuck i meant "tune down."

>>69905893
if you were trying to show that he's good or something...it didn't work

>>69906516

power supplies seem so gaudy and expensive, I just use two one-spots w/ daisy chains

>>69905994
>fretboard is anything but rosewood

instant buy

>>69906564
The cheap chinese ones amazon sells are completely adequate.

>>69904851
No frets are buzzing except the third one on the low E string?? How fix?

>>69906594
if you're talking about the Donner or any other $40ish one, they aren't isolated. They're just a One Spot in a box.

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mathrock is the logical conclusion to guitar music, try to prove me wrong dadrockers

>>69906666
quads confirm my claim, 2017 is the year of mathrock, dadrockers btfo

>>69906666
son of a c\btich

>>69906544
Lets see you play something better.

>>69906731
hes just playing arpeggiated chords in odd time signatures, big whoop. not that im a strictly talent person but that style is garbage. id rather have a unique soundscape than whatever that trash is.

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Just bought this for 555€

Tell me why I'm wrong.

How do I tell if fender pickups are genuine? I just bought a set of tex-mex's for 30$. Dude said they're genuine, started talking something about the underside of magnets being beveled. I just want to know if they're genuine texmexes. Also, how do I know which pickup is bridge/neck/middle? There are two pickups with black/white wires and one with yellow/black wires

>>69906794
because its an old blooz lawyer faggot geeter. jk love u bbe.

>>69906779
That's what I thought.

Is an epiphone Dr-100 a decent starter guitar?

>>69906897
People will bitch about specifics but any guitar is a good starter guitar. Anything to get you playing. I would suggest something in the middle of "cheap" and "feels good." Go to a store and try some out. You can always lower the action if you're worried about that. There's not 1 best starter guitar. People can be pretentious all they want but for the most part guitars all do the same thing.

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>>69906666

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>>69906820
If they don't look like this they're fake. Sounds like you might have got got

>>69906897
Seems bretty gud for a beginner guitar, you just starting out?

>>69905766
Autumn Leaves until a real jazz guitarist snatches it out of my hands.

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>>69906897
>decent starter guitar?
>you just starting out?

>>69907086
meant for >>69907056

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My birthday is on Saturday. Should I buy a Mellow Yellow Tremolo and if not, what gear should I buy instead?

>>69906897
I have the same one. It's a great guitar in general.

Anybody have any opinions on the Squier Jaguar?

>>69906897
anything is a good starter guitar as long as it works

>>69907042
ahh shit they look different. oh well, i hope they sound good atleast

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I want to buy a fuzz pedal that i can use for both guitar and bass. I'm looking for something with that heavy stoner sound like Electric Wiazrd uses. My budget is around 100 dollarydoos. Post some recommendations bros.

>>69907319
Boss FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz
the older the better

>>69906855
cant tell if sarcasm or another anon agreeing with me

>>69907319

get a russian big muff

>>69905439
look up Travis picking.

how to get that early swans no wave tone?

If you're in UK where do you find bands to join?

Any of you ever tried Kinman pickups?

Been looking into the Hank Marvin set and just wondering if the brand are good.

>>69907641
Everyone uses gumtree.

Hey guys so I have a MiM strat that whenever I go play high notes for leads or whatever it sounds for lack of a better term, whiny and flat. I've tried it with both my line 6 and peavy vyrpyr and it happens on both, putting on distortion helps but there's songs I wanna play clean also and the sound just isn't where I want it. Is this just a strat thing? Also mine has a humbucker for the bridge pickup but still whiny even on the bridge one.

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S521 vs S621
Is it worth paying extra for the pretty top?
Does anyone have these?

>>69908100
Sounds like your guitar isn't set up right.

That happens when the string is touching another fret further down the neck

>>69908100
Raise the pickup height on the whiny/flat part of you guitar.
Your pickups might be set too low down? put a xhead screwdriver and turn them gently the same each side.

>>69907056
Yeah just starting out

>>69907633
Turn the gain all the way up on your amp and instead of playing chords put your fingers on frets at random

>>69908480
damn sik thanks brodog

>>69906666
proof that mathrock is the only thing you should be playing on guitars

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Got a blank body/neck for a bass guitar yesterday. Where can I find a pickguard that fits this? The body looks similar to a P-Bass but in all the pictures of P-Basses I can find they either only have bridge pickups or they have humbuckers at the neck, whereas on this one I guess the humbucker is supposed to go at the bridge.

Also looking for good color scheme suggestions, only two ideas I had were forest green + white pickguard or just staining the wood darker

>>69908583
neon green gloss on the bottom half of the body, matte pink on the top

>>69908189
>>69908358
OK I'll definitely try that out, hopefully it's that easy of a fix

>>69908583
Orange with white pickguard

i know this sound retarded as fuck but could i reflow the solder on my jack with a hot paperclip? i dont have a heatgun or iron so i need to do it somehow. i lost the washer and nut on my sg that keeps the jack in place while inserting and removing the cable. eventually the joint wore loose from repeated use and i saw that one side of the jack snapped from the solder pad. please give me any other options for a fix, even if temporary.

How can i establish a practice schedule?

I have about 3 hs a day and i'm using steve vai's workout as a reference. The only difference is that i add another block for repertoire.

I've tried dividing the 3 hours into 9 20 minutes blocks, however, i feel like 20 mins is not enough for me to practice the stuff i learn.

And the problem with having 30 minutes block is that i'll have to leave out many skills that i consider important and i won't have as much consistency.

So, how should i do it? How do you practice anons?

> tl;dr
I want to make my own practice schedule and i have as much as 3 hours a day available.

>>69908734
it takes 21 days to establish a habit, practice 3 hours a day for 3 weeks. make an effort to do it for at least those 21 days

>>69908583
Go with no pickguard. Also looks like some damage around the bridge area, hopefully you got a good price for that.

>>69908734
guitar isnt worth it when you play as a chore, just play like you want when you want. you will come to know what you need to learn. priorities and structure come with playing until you find a goal to strive towards. just play, its literally that simple.

>>69908818
This. Having a set schedule and routine sounds really tedious. Just play when you feel like playing. There's no magic schedule/number of minutes to play that will make you good. Just play.

>>69908777
Yeah i suppose i'll try that out, the problem is how to structure my practice time.

>>69908818
No i don't mean to play guitar as a chore, but i want to improve and i feel like i don't manage my practice time quite right.

>>69908644
You can buy a soldering iron for less than $10 from walmart.

>>69908919
What do you want to improve on? Practice that. Good good at that. Move on to the next thing you want to improve on. If you're not getting something right away, practice something else or take a break and go back to it.

>>69908919
improvement will only come when you know what your own playing style is which just comes from playing around. id rather be unique than technically proficient and robotic. just learn scales, which isnt a chore if you have a use for it. learn what you know you will use.

>>69908734
I usually start alternate picking up and down the neck, mess around with some slow sweep picking then play something similar to what I've been listening to or try and learn something new

>>69908734

Practice what you can't yet play
Enjoy now what you can play.

>>69905659
Ernie Balls w/ straplocks on all my electrics

Flashback owners get in here. Bought one yesterday, should arrive soon because >germans.

How is the toneprint software? Easy to use, good tonal options, etc?

Whats the power rankings of squier?

cv>vm>standard>affinity?

How do I into modes, shapes and improv over a backing track? What do I need to know?

>>69907319
EW use the Boss FZ-2 like the other guy said, but I would definitely look up demos before you commit because it is a very polarizing sound when not in a mix (and probably wouldn't be the best for bass). They also aren't produced anymore and aren't attainable for 100 dollars, but check out the Demon Lung for a great replica if you want to save a bit. If you just want a good stoner/doom pedal look into Big Muffs and clones of the muff.

>>69909507
You need to know your major scale, from that shape all modes are created.
If you are a guitar player learn the 5 pent scales and then add the major notes to them to complete the scale shapes.

>>69909263
go look at the prices, price is a direct correlation with quality in this case.

Is having a meme guitar a bad thing?

>>69909587
no
t. telecaster player

>>69906666
mathrock is a lot of fun to play. something about getting odd complex parts just right is a special kind of satisfying

>>69909561
So once I know that it's just a matter of connecting the shapes together while playing?

>>69908963
i know but i am an ultra poorfag and cant really get out of the house rn. the weather is rather shitty.

>>69907196
i beg to differ. the squier strat that came with a starter kit i got way back was not friendly or comfortable at all for me. I guess it did force me to practice harder in the end but it felt like it fought back on every note above the 10th fret.

>>69906658
I have a Neewer. It claimed to be isolated and I checked (i'm an electrician). It is isolated.

>>69909507
Look up the chord scale method, that's pretty much all you need if you're not going to play super advanced jazz.

>>69906619

Raise action on that string. You probably have a low spot on the third fret or a high spot in the 4th/5th-ish region. Raising the action should be sufficient.

is the 112V worth the 100 dollars extra you have to pay in the Pacificas up from a 112J? newbie looking for first guitar

>>69908644
http://m.harborfreight.com/welding/soldering/30-watt-lightweight-soldering-iron-69060.html

>>69910304
These work well but don't touch the hot part

>>69910317
Its much harder to touch the hot part on this compared to a paper clip.

Its a shitty iron, but its good for a couple uses at least.

Yes hello how do I get good at guitar?

>>69910425
Learn and play

>>69910425
Practice, never think youre better than you are, dont have fun with it.

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Guys I want to buy my first Jazzmaster but I don't have the enough money to buy the Classic Player yet, and I live in Mexico so I have to order them from abroad, and my local store is selling the Vintage Modified from Squier, should I go for it?, desu I've seen comparisons on youtube and they seem pretty similar in sound which is what I care about the most

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Just got a bass for Christmas after and I'm new to electric bass/guitar effects. What do I need to do to my bass (or myself) to get it to sound like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZzmohIkYD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08oDOBQ9QKo

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Got this for christmas. Pretty neat amp. Currently trying to hook it up to my computer

>>69910466

No seas pobre mi amigo hipstersini, ahorra y comprate una Jazzmaster de verdad.

>>69910476
I think that would depend on the pickups

>>69910498
Are stuff like this basically an amp with a built in interface?

>>69910476
Flatwound strings and a pickup in either the neck or middle position. A Fender Jazz will get you closer than the P-bass.

Also a compressor pedal. And pluck the strings (fingerstyle) near the neck for that sound in the vid. The bass also has a little bit of something added in post, touch of reverb or chorus or delay I dunno. It's slight but there's something more than dry bass signal going on there.

>>69910522
Kinda. It has if you plug it in to your computer and use Boss Tone Studio. That way you can edit effects etc.

>>69910592
*only the first track has that bit of extra effect on it.

So, are jazz basses less bass-y than their precision counterparts? I used to use a p bass in my band, but it was stolen. So now, I'm thinking about getting a jazz bass, but people say that they lack some of the bottom end that the p bass naturally had. Opinions?

>>69910676
Plug one in at music store and see. Jazz basses have plenty of low end, just different, softer, kinda thing. It's subtle. Try and see.

>>69910592
Wait.... probably roundwound strings on the second track.

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>>69910592
I played upright for a while so plucking with my finger's naturally how I started playing it. Guess I'll swap out the roundwounds and see how much closer that gets me. Thanks.

>>69910512
I'm sure they're shit, pic related, it's just a cheapo bass that a relative got me.

>>69910676

Precision and Jazz Basses are really different beasts, you should try out one given the chance. J basses don't pack as much of a punch as Ps do, but they can do some real nice well-rounded tones that you can't get with a P.

>>69910745
Okay. Just a heads up on flats, string tension will be higher than you're used to with rounds. You may want to use a lighter gauge than your usual. Or not if you don't care about the tension difference.

anyone have a tab for dean blunt 100?

One day of picking too hard hurts my hands for at least 3 days

This isn't fun :(

>>69911040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soDZBW-1P04

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>Gear demo
>Guy plays nothing but blues and dadrock

>>69911071

>bass demo
>guy plays a very softly fingered noodly jazz lick followed by,
>slap bass lick

Demo over.

>>69911161
Those two types are really the only two tones that should come from a bass.

>>69911071
>"Hi I'm Fatass Nevershave and today I'm going to demo the new Tonefucker Pedal it's a pitch grinder shifter stutter delay fuzz"
>proceeds to play nothing but Em pentatonic minor blues licks

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>>69911071
>baritone gear demo
>think im safe from the immense faggotry that is prog metal/djent because it only has 6 strings
>NOT AT ALL
>MFW

Tuned my guitar to G standard for fun and now my saddles are messed

>>69905766
WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG YOU WERE THE KING OF CARROT FLOWERS

>>69911172

No, demo should feature regular fingerstyle in usual position near bridge. And should also have a short bit where the guy is playing along with a full band backing track, standard bass line, no noodling.

>>69906544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cWa6C0OBqs

different anon here, the guy is legit good

>>69910522
No. You can just edit the digital effects with your computer

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>>69905766
Drop D to trick everyone into thinking I'm going to play some metal or some shit and then hit them with some Francisco Tarrega. Then after Capricho Arabe I tune it back up to be courteous to the guitar's owner and play Romance de Amor by whoever the fuck composed that, which flows seamlessly back into Tarrega (Etude in Em).

>>69911287

That sounds like a fucking hassle.

My
>gf
lent me her Fender G-DEC practice amp and just setting that thing up is a fuckin' chore.

>>69911287
But if you want to listen to those effects as you play it, won't that add a delay between when you hit the note and when you hear it?

>>69911071
Chicago Music Exchange has the best demos.

>>69911455
>i enjoy shitty jokes and 3 minute demos
wew

>>69911455
Is this supposed to be a meme?

>>69911287
Can't use it as an input through usb?

First time posting in a guitar thread.
Been playing acoustic for a few months with a guitar I've had lying around for a while.
What a good electric guitar and amp combo for low tone distortion and general beginners use?
I was looking at playing some of Modest Mouse's stuff.

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>>69911455
What the hell am I watching

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>>69911599

>>69911586
For guitar that's a really broad topic. The type of guitars the bands you enjoy tend to play is a good start (get the cheaper version). Amps, you'd probably like something in the category of Fender, Vox. By 'low tone distortion' you mean like just a little bit of distortion and not heavy distortion like metal bands use, right?

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Who does do the best demos?

>>69911774
Playstation Magazine.

>>69911725
Correct.
I love stuff like Whirr and Sonic Youth
But I'm looking for a sound like Modest Mouse's - Broke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je3r4DxLWDM
I'd like to play noise rock/no wave sometime down the line as well but I want to stick with more mainstream/traditional stuff. Also compatibility with pedals would be great.

Price is overall what I'm looking for, cheaper = better

>>69911376
What? I think you have a fatal misunderstanding of how the amp works.

It has a 3 or 4 inbuilt effects, ie. reverb, delay, fuzz.

You can switch those effects to effects that you'd rather have, like switching reverb for a metalzone, or switching delay for a comp.

>>69911504
No

>>69911774
Andy from PGS

>>69911599
my sides

>>69911071
>guy demoing a light overdrive pedal specifically made for bluesy, rock stuff
>djents for 8 minutes

you can't win with these things

>>69911455
Nah, Fretted Americana

>based phil x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBJlrtanM6o

>>69911859
was actually going to say this. haven't seen many demos where the guy plays tastefully

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>>69908583
Is that Ash? if so you could do a finish like this except with a dark green grain filler instead of red. + a DIY tortoise shell pickguard.

>>69906897
>epiphone Dr-100
I had one. the action was high as fuck

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>>69911071
>demo for some extreme high-gain metal pedal
>guy plays blues licks and AC/DC riffs for 10 minutes

>>69908136
anyone? ;_;

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>>69912144
>guy immediately tunes to C and starts playing chugwank

Have any of you checked a guitar case on a bus? I'm looking into a bus ticket and the way the size is limited for checked items is by adding the length, width, and height. My guitar case is 70 inches and the limit is 62; will they let me on anyway? If they do, should I be worried about my guitar being stolen?

>>69911820

Okay, yes then Fender and Vox amps are a good place to start.

Any guitar pedal will work with any guitar/amp combo. Don't buy any pedals until you know what your amp sounds like. Amps often have a distortion channel so if you like how that sounds there's no need to buy a pedal to do the same job.

>>69911847
You're right, I misinterpreted "edit with your computer" as "run through your computer"

>>69912236
Just buy an extra ticket for it. I wouldn't trust the guitar in that bottom compartment tbqh,,too many stops through the hood increases your chances of it being stolen by a lot.

>>69911774
knobs duh

>>69905766
Fahey

>>69910500
Cual es la diferencia? Seguramente me diras que la calidad es mayor en la Fender pero en que consiste esta "calidad"?
No soy el mismo anon por cierto

>>69905766
john fahey and richard bishop rip off fingerstyle until someone says it's too depressing

I'm just starting out and I'm looking for an entry level or relatively cheap amp. (Under $100-150)

I mainly want to play classic rock and metal, some bluesy stuff.

Can anyone help? Does it really matter at all when im just getting started? I know chords and a few tabs.

>>69913252
blackstar fly

>>69912377
>tone candles
>sustain berries
>potted plants for boosting highs
they thought of it all

what jazz tunes does /gg/ like to play?
working on Misty and Autumn Leaves right now

>>69913391
Is this a meme? I honestly know nothing about amps.

What should I look for in one?

>>69913468
Input jack, some knobs, and a speaker

>>69913442
So What, because it's the only one I know.

>>69913468

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAe3zr4r4cE&t=209s&ab_channel=CSGuitars

It sounds like you're a beginner and want something to play distorted and clean music. you're probably not in a band right now so you want something to play at home.

>tfw build pedals for a hobby
>tfw no local store to walk in and pick parts as needed
There's one store, 40 minutes away, but the guys a tool and he doesnt have a large variety. And then theres radio shack.... i have to spend one weekend planning and ordering, and the next building.

First world problems blog post for you chaps

>>69913442
Blues Connotation

>>69913468
as far as practice amps go, Roland Cube, Fender Mustang, Vox Pathfinder, and the the little SS Orange are considered good and cheap. I have a big boy amp but I still play through my little Fender Champion in my apartment. Found it on CL for $40.

>>69905766
telegraph ave

>>69913516
>>69913503

Thankyou!

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>haven't touched any of it in almost a month

>>69913572
>pedals aren't in line
>blogpost
what did he mean by this?

>>69913572
I literally have never heard of any of those

2boutique4me

>>69913572
Lot of hipster tier meme brands there, how does it sound with the rest of your rig?

>>69913648
>d-d-d-d-d-doesn't know ch-chase b-b-bliss
biggest meme in a long time

>>69913648
Wait I take that back

I recognize the decimator and polytune

>>69913653
Sounds good to me.

>>69912536
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ybogzrfyd50db1/TheBestOfJohnFahey_TAB.pdf?dl=0


some dank ass john fahey books with tabs and shit


this shit good as fuck

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>mfw i sort of figured out what makes a dominant 7th a dominant 7th, but not really

>>69913442
Invitation

>>69913913
>the 7th is dominant
woah
damn

>>69913913
It's just a minor 7th as opposed to a major 7th

>>69913998
>It's just a minor 7th as opposed to a major 7th
fucking should have just asked here instead of try to decipher what this guy said.

http://music.stackexchange.com/questions/11189/why-is-a-c7-chord-named-a-dominant-seventh-chord

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worth it or just pay for a MIM tele or strat?

>>69914217
1 3 5 = major triad
1 b3 5 = minor triad

1 3 5 7 = major 7th
1 b3 5 b7 = minor 7th
1 3 5 b7 = (dominant) 7th

in the major scale, the V (aka the dominant) is the only scale degree on which you can build a dominant 7th chord. For several reasons, this chord is (traditionally considered to be) very tense and resolves strongly to the I (e.g. in the key of C which is CDEFGABC, C is I and G is V, so a G7 builds tension that is resolved when you return to the C major chord)

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just restrung my 13 year old fender squire starter pack guitar i got when i was like 10

i just remember the old strings killing my kiddy fingers, these new ones are a lot less painful

pretty excited to relearn everything and get moderately good

i even tuned it all by myself!!!

and then maybe i'll buy an actual guitar!

>>69914333
probably the same quality

>>69913913
Other anon is right

Just for reference

Major 7 is 1st, major 3rd, 5th, major 7th
Minor 7 is 1st, minor 3rd, 5th, minor 7th
Dom 7 is 1st, major 3rd, 5th, minor 7th

If youre playing in a major key, the 5th tone's chord will be dominant(so E if youre playing in A). The 5th degree is the Mixolydian mode, which is identical to the major scale but has a minor 7th instead of a major. Playing a major 7th chord there would be out of key. Thats not to say it wouldnt sound good, of course.

Thats the same reason a power chord "doesnt work" for the 7th tone of the major scale, that mode doesnt have a perfect 5th. It does have a flat/diminished 5th, which is why youre told to play a diminished chord there. I personally think a minor 6th chord sounds better, although it is cliche.

>>69914422
>>69914486
Love you guys. Now that the dom7 done with I guess I'll have to get a bit more acquainted with them mode things seeing how the secret to the dom7 chord was with them.

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New amp day, Sound City 200+ purchased from the original owner.

>>69914852
turn everything on together and play something

>>69914650
Basically, if you know what a major and minor is you've already learned two modes - ionian and aeolian. You may have learned the major scale as

W W H W W W H

and the minor as

W H W W H W W

well, if you look at those patterns, the minor one is actually just the major one but starting at the 6th degree. The rest of the modes are just applying that concept to every other scale degree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAnAwVTQy8o

this video has a good, easy to understand explanation. I know the dead and phish aren't exactly popular around here, but if you're interested in improvisation and a bit of theory that guy's channel has a ton of useful info presented in an easy to understand manner.

>>69914909
I would but I need to get a multi amp switcher that has a buffered output in it, otherwise it'll be hiss and noise city from lack of grounding. I'm looking at the one Voodoo Labs makes currently.

>>69905766
the first couple bars of stairway over and over again

>>69905766
the fisherman - leo kottke
or at least the first few bars of it, then I'd realize I haven't practiced fingerstyle in years and don't actually remember how to play the one "difficult" song I ever fully learned

>>69915056
cheers man, this is well good info. learning this stuff is damn hard when you're the only one prowling the web for answers so its good to know there's always someone out there that is willing to help ya.

>>69914852

I'd be lying if I said I'm not fuckin' jealous of your set-up, anon. That shit is the bees knees.

What bass are you running through that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8H-67ILaqc&ab_channel=BrushyOneString

Where in a pedal chain would I put a Dr. Scientist Bitquest? It does so many things that I'm not really sure where to place it.

>>69905439
giuliani's right hand exercises

guys how can i get a good tone in garage band? i bought a recording kit that came with protools but im too stupid to use it so im using garageband.

My only amp is a line 6 spider III, and im not going to use plugins because i have to send the files to someone else to get mastered

i want to get a tone like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RggRFyVUiZA

Is it just me or are Bach Cello pieces perfect picking exercises. Anyone know of any other Classical pieces like this (no chords)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzLgoTy7aDw

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New to different kinds of scales. What's the difference between major and ionian scales

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>>69916050
Nothing, it's just the Greek name. Aeolian is minor.

>>69916096
thanks

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>>69916108
No problem man.

>>69916096
any one have any tricks to memorizing the Whole and Half steps in the scales?

>>69915993
you sound like you're looking for an easy answer but if you're willing to put in some effort its amazing what you can do.

Id say learn a proper daw like protools reaper cubase or something and download some vst plugins like amplitube or bias fx or ezmix and you will have unlimited tones (including the plini tone) at your disposal once you learn to configure them properly.

look up videos of people demoing those plugins to see what I mean.

the age of amp sims is the age of creative freedom at your computer. it just takes a little know how

>>69916144
got it.

lets say i record somwthing with a plugin, and i send the garageband file out to someone, will they be able to open it?

>>69916200
Maybe? idk how garage band works. If you export it as a wav file then definitely

>>69914852
What Univox is that fampai?

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>>69915619
I have 4 bass, 2 of them being my mains, A Roger Waters Precision thats been heavily modded and a Music Man Stingray Classic 4, my other 2 basses are a 30 year old custom fretless jazz and a Peavey T40, all strung up with erine ball flatwounds. pic related

>>69916257
>flats

nigga u need to get urself some dank ass round Rotosounds

>>69916250
Its a 1061 thats been modded to 1561 specs, what that means is instead of 6L6's in the power section making 100 watts it now runs 6550's making closer to 150-160 watts, its a pretty rad amp

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>>69916257
>tfw no t40

>>69916290
I've been using D'Addario Nickel wounds for the longest time, but these Ernie Ball flats are just so good they converted me over, They're just that good.

>>69916143
Don't memorize scales as a series of half and whole steps. Think of them as a set of scale degrees, and identify which of those degrees have a half step between them

e.g. a major scale is just
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8(1)
3/4 and 7/8 are separated by half steps, the rest by whole steps

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Just built this, whatchya think

PS45
Gibson SG Special Faded
Volume output 1> Tuner
Volume output 2> Wah > Compressor > Muff > FX loop in > Phase 90 > Flanger > Small Clone > Carbon Copy > DL4 > FX loop out > Amp(Bugera 333xl combo)

>>69916419
>Gibson SG Special Faded

it's shit

>>69916548
It has burst buckers tho :(

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>>69915882
Please help im kind of a retard. Currently I have it Envelope filter->Fuzz->Distortion->Chorus->Delay->Reverb.

>>69916683
what year is it? If it comes with burstbuckers stock I might have to buy one.

>>69916818
Not stock it's a 2004(before they made it thin as fuck)
New pickups, pots, selector, tail piece, chrome pickup covers and hat knobs

I like it honestly, good tone and a lot of volume

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I borrowed a friend's Tele for a while but didn't really like the twang. What should I get as a second guitar besides another Strat?

>>69916694
After Distortion but before Delay/Reverb. Try a few things and see what sounds best

>>69916025
Bach violin sonatas and partitas, Telemann did some solo viol stuff, Handel

You could go to imslp.org and download heaps of different stuff and use it for sight reading practice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPx6WdNM30&ab_channel=Rstyle

This is probably why I've always felt like j songs were more interesting musically than western songs. The chord progressions are more complex and kind of wander a bit before resolving. Western chord progressions seem a little simple in comparison which is why in my opinon western pop is very basic and pedestrian sounding. It doesn't challenge your ear or attention span because the changes are pretty predictable.

what to practice when you can't play?
too late parents will get upset

>>69917211
The Japanese were obsessed with america just after the war, and they based their music heavily on american jazz from the 50s and 60s

>>69917350
do you have a headphone amp or soundhole cover for acoustic?

>moms gonna freak

>>69917356
which is fucking great. but why did america decide to ditch that in favor of pretty much the 12 bar blues format for popular music?

>>69917371
electric is at school and no cover :(

>>69917397
jews

>>69917411
seriously? that whole jews are behind everything bad in america meme is true?

>>69917211
This is pretty cool. I can recognize that kind of chord progression because it's similar to all those anime openings. Even though it still sounds "pop", it still holds some sort of "unpreditabilty" or "complexity". Making it more interesting than Amerian pop music.

Looking for a Tremolo pedal with tap tempo for under 200 dollars. Rec me something

>>69917211
also the basslines even in jpop are actually worth listening to. I try to incorporate that into my songwriting

>>69917493

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tremolo+pedal+tap+tempo+%3C%24200

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>>69917440
beyond true

>>69917537
Boy, it's almost what I was asking what you're guys' opinion on what you liked was, not just a comprehensive list

>>69917211
does anyone know what song that japanese one was, i want to look up the chords. it doesn't sound very harmonically pleasing to me, and i don't think it's because of the length. i like a lot of long jazz progressions, but those seem to move in a way that makes more sense to me.

does anyone know how this is working harmonically?

LIST OF THINGS NOBODY SHOULD DEBATE

>Tonewoods are a myth in the case of electric guitars

>Anything that makes a break angle on your string is detrimental

>Bolt-on neck joints are far and above the best choice, and neck joint means shit all for tone

>Weight doesn't add sustain, proper high quality parts and construction does, you should try to get the lightest guitar possible for comfort

feel free to add more, no bullshit though

>>69913503
...this actually sounds decent what the fuck

>>69917211
the japanese one just sounds like it has two too many chords in it to me. it's not like i think that basic western one is any better, no, but the japanese one just sounds forced to me.

to me, pop music is supposed to be to-the-point and doesn't need fancy changes like that. just listening to that japanese progression and thinking of a person singing over it makes me annoyed, because i can hear that thing in japanese music where they go through 5 different emotional states within 6 bars. it's extremely annoying.

>>69917676
not sure the band but he says the name of the song several time

also if you open the youtube link and look around in the comments you can find this:
I-vii-iii-vi-V-I-IV-iii-vi-II-iv

not actually sure how accurate this is

>>69917716
>bolt on
>not string thru for sustain

>>69917716
>Tonewoods are a myth in the case of electric guitars
why does the glittler sound like trash

>Anything that makes a break angle on your string is detrimental
what does this mean

>>69917716
>Bolt-on neck joints are far and above the best choice, and neck joint means shit all for tone
agreed

>>69917716
>Weight doesn't add sustain, proper high quality parts and construction does, you should try to get the lightest guitar possible for comfort
agreed

>>69917758
>I-vii-iii-vi-V-I-IV-iii-vi-II-iv
this seems really really random. like someone just is randomly picking chords from the major and relative minor

>>69917744
I totally understand that. That's what I like about it but I get what you mean

>bolt on
4 inch block of wood between you and the 20th-27th fret

WHEW LAD

>>69917771
>why does the glittler sound like trash
probably the reason 100% electric guitars suffer from.

pickups and amp(settings)

>>69917768
string thru doesn't add sustain, makes a break angle on your string
>>69917771
the gittler has trash sounding hardware, EGC guitars sound amazing and some are lighter than wood guitars
>>69917816
this may surprise someone who has played like two guitars, but there are much better neck joint designs than the fender one

>>69917832
>probably the reason 100% electric guitars suffer from.
>pickups and amp(settings)

>>69917835
>the gittler has trash sounding hardware, EGC guitars sound amazing and some are lighter than wood guitars
it's like a $4000 guitar. are you saying they made this guitar and just randomly decided to use shitty hardware?

>>69917871
not randomly, they deliberately gave it tinny shitty hardware because their in-house designs apparently suck. it's not like that $4k is going towards a bunch of R&D, it's a meme instrument

putting on a ton of gain, reverb, and delay makes it sound like just about everything else anyways

>>69917913
>not randomly, they deliberately gave it tinny shitty hardware because their in-house designs apparently suck. it's not like that $4k is going towards a bunch of R&D, it's a meme instrument
i believe that tonewoods are a thing unless someone shows me a gittler that sounds like a strat

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>>69917211
The Pillows (the guys who did the FLCL soundtrack) had great jazzy songs in their early days especially their album Living Field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P--YD2SrrR0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBt47MfTEJY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tNWwsuLen0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PxraLHOZrc

>>69917716
Autistically discussing guitars and wasting money on pointless peddles does not make you a better player

>>69917959

and then they turned into the shittiest mid-tempo, radio-friendly, pop-rock, let's-write-the-same-album-10-times drivel, the Foo Fighters blush when they hear the pillows.

>>69917939
it literally doesn't matter what you make an electric guitar out of lol, also they have great sounding metal and composite acoustics already so it's not the fault of materials

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn9E32molSg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP6ULeI6SeI

>>69917984
yeah pretty much

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my
>gf
got me a 3-guitar stand for x-mas

now i dont have to leave them lying on the floor or my bed anymore (jazz bass not pictured, currently at my guitarist's house)

is it true black foam stains nitro finishes?

>>69917997
They got tired of being dirt poor

>>69917799
I agree it does seem a little more out there and I think thats probably a point of the video

if you think of iii as the 3,5,7 of I with no bass, vi a classic sub of I, V going to I, IV descending to iii, iii is the V of vi, vi is the V of ii switched to relative minor, and then ending on that iv for some tension

its not too random, no jazz tritone subs and a lot of descending fifths

but also i dont know shit about fuck and im not even sure these are the correct chords he's playing through but like that other anon said a lot of jap music was based on american jazz

What do I buy this week
Ibanez RG, Fender Strat or both?

Katana sounds good for an amp?

>>69917997
I haven't listened to them much after their FLCL stuff but you can't tell me Last Dinosaur isn't still amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6nXzbvT0Oo

The have really good songs on those albums where the FLCL songs came from.

Reggae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTfgx3KgyP0

Sounds like that song Summer Breeze, fantastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKdQDrh8yF4

Country type swing to this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_KDF2Q7DQY

Nostalgia feels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WtaQjV6ezs

Man I haven't heard these in a while. Thanks to the anon who posted that Japanese chord video to remind me of stuff I listened to in high school

>>69918036
>great sounding
[citation needed]

those both sound like trash. do you really think they sound the same as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4GLV8a4Adw?

>>69918103
S series and put new pickups in it

>>69918085
is your jazz bass another "white" color that's different from those two?

also have never heard of black foam staining nitro

>>69918098
yeah i listened back and it makes more sense, still sounds disjointed to me. jazzy, but kind of...amateur idk. it doesn't flow well to my ears but maybe that's just cultural

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>>69918092

yeah they didn't soldier it out like the actual good japanese indie bands like bloodthirsty butchers and cowpers and shit, no anime for them huh

>>69918114

I won't lie I'm just angry cause I thought all their music was gonna be good like the songs they used in FLCL, but they really pilfered their catalogue to make that soundtrack huh. I'm loathe to them using pillows music again for the sequel now that I'm not in middle school any more...

>>69918141

No, Shell Pink.

>>69918123
>just posting the most overpriced martin to try and compare

lamo

also yes, the kevin michael sounds better than that Martin while being 1/3rd the price, lighter, smaller, more comfortable, easier to play, and more resistant to climate

>>69918169
agreed, it doesn't have that sweet jazz harmony that only fits if you listen through a couple chords, not just one chord to the next.

but yeah the cultural aspect of it means it would sound even harsher to our ears

>>69918103
Which RG and which Strat are you considering?

>Katana
Nopenopenopenopenope.
Vox AV, Yamaha THR, Blackstar ID or Marchall Code.

>>69918219
>the kevin michael sounds better than that Martin while being 1/3rd the price, lighter, smaller, more comfortable, easier to play, and more resistant to climate
check your hearing

>>69918267
your shitty 6k martin has zero dynamics, o i am laffin

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i'm currently getting fret buzz on the following frets

E- 3, 6,9,12,
A-
D-7,9,12,
G
B
E-13

is there a way to fix this? i tightened my truss rod but i don't think the action moved that much off the board. pls help ;-;

>>69918103
Tech 21 Trademark, Marshall DSL5, Laney VC15 & TI15 and Fender Bassbreaker are great amps too but more expensive.

>>69918172
The have lots of great deep cuts on the albums they pulled from. I haven't been into anime at all for 10+ years but I'll still check out the new FLCL. Almost forgot they were making a new episodes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGyDUZ3zIEE

>>69918301
>has zero dynamics, o i am laffin
lol at you saying that while defending that fucking acoustic electric piece of trash

>>69918302
Putting 10s helped the thinner strings for me when I was fucking about with all that. Check your nut too it might be to worn down or the slots to wide making the string move around to much.

I had bad tinging sitar like sounds. I put some slight pressure with my finger on the string above the nut when played open.

>>69918327
lol sure bud

a dreadnought junior sounds better than that overpriced shit

>>69918230
RG655M-CBM and the American Pro Stratocaster
Both the same price

so /gg/ what bands/musicians do you listen to who play outside of your normal musical interests to find inspiration for harmony, guitar tones, "soundscapes", whatever

currently I'm listening to the Roches, who I found out about because Fripp produced their album

>>69918360
>a dreadnought junior sounds better than that overpriced shit
dude you can say it's overpriced but it's retarded to say it sounds bad

regardless, any $300 yamaha sounds better than either link you posted so my point stands

>>69918368
i'm not into metal too much but that new Eternal Champion album has great guitar pieces for being standard tuning power metal
>>69918387
nah

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just recently switched from the roundwound strings i had to flatwounds, ecg25; 12-52. Playing a epi les paul

bit different, higher tension which isn't a problem cause my action was terrible so I'm used to using extra strength when fretting. I like the sound I'm getting out of it but overall it seems either more quiet or I'm just not used to not hearing the "bite" that roundwounds usually give.

What strings do you use, have you experimented with custom gauges from different packs?

Can anyone here shred?

>>69918515
Papers

>>69918412
same, I'm unfortunately very uncultured when it comes to "guitar" greats so I've recently been enjoying a lot of Malmsteen even though I don't care for shred guitar too much and a lot of his music is similar, or so people have said

>>69918579
I like all malmsteens instrumental stuff, but the stuff with singing is usualy super corny and lame

>>69918515
>>69918578

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmcuoaqdJ9w

im about to file and crown my frets and i have no idea what im doing.
wish me luck.

>>69918716
look stuff up instead of diving headfirst into it

you might not even have enough fret to file and crown anon

>>69918631
yeah although I think some of that cornyness is just looking back at it now vs when he came out with it. something about shredding on stage when your 21 and having some stupid lyrics about

"I will never die
'Cause I will fly
To the other side"

sounds awesome

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>>69918726
damn i think you just saved my fretboard.
the frets are pretty low.
sort of like 6130 in pic.

do i need to crown the frets after i file em down or can i just take a bit off the top of the ones that are causing trouble?

So, got an Orange Dark Terror, looking to get some pedals to complement it. Kind of torn between getting a decent overdrive pedal, or a fuzz one. Love Boris kind of tones. Would the Proco Rat be a good start?

>>69918338
like ernie heavies?

>>69918764

No. Takeshi only uses a modified Rat on his bass afaik.

If you want the Wata tone you need a Big Muff. I'd get a wah too.

>>69918759
if they're low wide frets(which is what 6130s are) and it's a newish guitar from the past few years, you can file and crown your frets.

if they have pretty heavy wear you might not want to try it, and you might want a luthier or a tech who knows what they're doing to look at them. if you only have certain frets causing trouble you might have a leveling problem which I definitely wouldn't mess around with if you don't have gauge(s).

filing down a bit off the top would leave the fret flat, which can give intonation problems because the strings won't hit the fret evenly

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>>69918773
Just regular 10s. I took them off though and went back to 9s. The only problem I have now is the G string with the slight sitar/pinging noise when open but it's not a big deal.

Double check your nut and action again too. If your strings are too high above the 12th fret you made need to adjust the truss rod some more and raise the action to compensate. It was a bitch to deal with but it got better. Hopefully looking around online and youtube change help you. Best of luck.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?178765-buzzing-above-the-12th-fret-means-i-need-a-little-relief-right

>>69918780

Ah fair enough, part of what put me towards the Rat was the fact that it's so integral for Sunn O))), but I'm not sure I'd ever really be playing their kind of droney stuff much.

Any recommendations on the wah? I've heard great things about the Dimebag one.

>>69918736
>>69918515
>>69918636
>tfw cold hands, haven't played all day and too lazy to get proper mic and do more takes
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ifBiKAiBz3
yngwie is baby shredding. i could play it better when i was 17 tho since i never do this stuff anymore

>>69918866

A stock Crybaby is what she uses, the new small one is pretty useful.

If you're the adveturous type a RMC-3 wah would work best imo.

>>69918869
yeah i don't think he's the end all for shredding or close to it but being one of the first does give him some sort of nostalgia, imo

>>69918836
yeah its fairly new, about 3 years i think and not so much fret wear.

the problem is uneven frets but i was under the impression that you could file em down a bit and then file the sides so it creates this sort of round angle again, making the frets even(er)

i may have misunderstood though.

>>69918858
when you say regular 10s are you referring to just standard gauge? im not used to the terminology. also i checked my nut it doesn't seem too worn out. they don't wiggle too much there. i really wouldn't want to move the saddles since that'd be a painful process. i had the steps written down when an old guy told me but it involved bending the string down a few frets from 12 to get it to sound 12 by adjusting the saddles.

>>69918913
do you have a fret rocker, or sanding beam, or anything like that?

if you have low frets to begin with, naturally it leaves you with less material BUT it sounds like your guitar would be fine to adjust. what tools for this do you actually have?

>>69918989
I have a couple of different metal files and sand paper.

>>69918989
>>69919015
oh and a fret rocker of course. i've already marked the areas that need be filed down.

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>>69918881

I'm watching demos, and I have no idea how a wah would come into the play when you're playing something as fuzzy as Boris or other similar rock/metal. I know they definitely use it, but watching demos hasn't got me convinced that the wah would be too useful.

>>69918987

Regular 10s are what you'd typically use on E standard tuning on a 24.75" scale guitar (Les Paul). The high string measures 0.010 I believe, different from a 25.5" scale guitar (Strat) which would typically use 9s. Of course you can use any strings on any guitar, that's just what's typical.

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>>69918987
Adjusting the saddle it literally the easiest to adjust. I was afraid to mess with anything with the guitar but it's so easy to do. Just need a .05 allen key if you have a Strat or Tele.

For intonation you just need a screw driver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSRqdmXBSAQ

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>>69918362
I'd go with the RG, because they are more versatile out of the box and the necks are wonderful. Overall just a lot more potential in my opinion. I have a RG1820X. I'd also consider a model without a tremolo or at least a vintage one, because locking tremolo is a pain in the ass in my experience. Pic related would be my choise.

Seeing you have plenty of money to put into the guitar, I've no idea why you even ask about the Katana but something like an Engl Ironball, Koch Studiotone or Marshall 2525 would be a more suitable pair for the guitar.

>>69919782
To be honest I'm scared of buying a tube amp which why I was pulling towards that.

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>>69917545
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