why is john maus so good, /mu/

>it's another alt-right thread

>>69589386
fuck you, go back to /pol/ dumbfuck, this is a music thread

>>69589348
neo nazis fuck off. get your hate speech the fuck off this board

>>69589348
Because he's alt-right and /ourguy/

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>>69589522
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>>69589386
What the fuck are you retards talking about

Can't John Maus be discussed without this stupid shit constantly being brought up

because you dont like black people

>>69589348
Fuck John Maus and fuck white people

Is John Maus really "alt-right"/even conservative?

I find that hard to believe.

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LET'S KILL THE COPS TONIGHT

le based alt-right man xD

he's actually pretty boring

>>69589965
nah

>>69591210
this. his interviews are somewhat fun tho

>>69589348
his music is based on the irrefutable science of marxism-leninism

>>69592509
he's a white dudebro socialist who hangs out with fascists and doesn't care

Molly Nilsson is better

>>69592539
nobody is ever good enough for you people

>>69589348
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

love him

>>69592689
But does she have a song about killing cops or about pussies?

I'm really interested in how he's affiliated with the alt-right, I never would've expected that.

>>69592779
He went on the Adult Swim show World Peace, which isn't even alt-right but every media outlet is saying it is

>>69592779
I'll give you a hint, it involves lizards and disinfo.

>>69592721
Probably about pussies.

But she wrote Hey Moon and John does a nice cover of it, though I like hers better.

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>>69592779
http://www.pajiba.com/trade_news/sam-hyde-that-guy-who-created-the-adult-swim-altright-show-is-a-real-shtbird.php

>>69592791
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>>69592867
Oh, so he hangs out with huge assholes basically. I know World Peace. My edgelord friends love it, it just seemed like a piece of shit to me. Disappointing, but not really enough of an endorsement of that soft fascism for me to want to boycott Maus.

>>69592867
he looks weird and freaked out, maybe they drugged him and forced him to appear on the show

>>69592981
How do you defend this though

https://youtu.be/Ukf-BZzX4oM?t=108

>>69593050
it's actually pretty neat. there is such a thing as good nazi art, one of my favorite writers is Louis Ferdinand Celine. During the Vichy republic even nazis couldn't stand him because he wouldn't shut up about the Jews, but he wrote some of the best french prose of all time.

>>69593050
Russians have mind control drugs they use on people. It's well known, the KGB mastered mind control during soviet times. It's similar to the 'truth serum'. Alt right is linked to Putin.

>>69593050
idgi

>>69592779
He has described himself as a radical leftist, and it's easy to infer this if you hear any of his numerous interviews or read any of his writings

I don't know why he appeared on World Peace, and I'm disappointed that he did, but anyone saying he did so in the spirit of endorsing any conservative beliefs is either lying or attempting to delude themselves

Sam himself has said that he wasn't trying to make any political statements on the show, so there's a lot of degrees of cognitive dissonance when someone says they like Maus now because of his supposed endorsement of a nebulous political movement

But it's nothing new for anyone who would willingly describe themselves as "alt-right" to make choices contributing to a lifestyle defined by embarrassing themselves

>>69593050
One of the better sketches 2bh
>>69593208
/thread

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>>69593050
most of them are funny but this one hits hard

>>69593050
I actually 'enjoy' some of MDE's content. they might be mentally ill neonazis but idgaf. Sam deserved to get cancelled for his utter retardation I mean what else did you want? noone to blame but yourself

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>>69593277
>judging an entire television production by one of its collaborators

>>69593277
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5qXMrAd_G4
this is literally one of the funniest things ever it sucks that they only have a handful of funny videos

>>69593336
I actually like some of their shit, but people have very good reasons for disliking the alt right. also fucking pizzagate?thinking there's a massive pedo conspiracy being run from pizza places? how do you even believe that shit

>>69592948
Have you actually watched it? With the exception of a few more tongue-in-cheek sketches, it could easily be taken as a leftist show. That's precisely the manner in which reactionism functions as an entity.
See >>69593050
That sketch is as much about the championeers of the white race being unable to accept that the Weltanschauung of white European idealism is incompatible with contemporary society as it is about the dangers of neoliberal reactionism itself. John, a secondary link in a Lacanian and Frankfurtian lineage of academics, would never blindly contribute to legitimate fascism. He transcends the phantasmagoric watchdog of capital that is social justice, and it's not a surprise that the same watchdog would function to shut down any mechanisms of transcending its purpose by any means necessary.

>>69593460
really makes you think huh

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>>69593460
> tfw John Maus support of MDE is actually just him being dialectical

>>69593493
"no"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF2q8KnIpRk

up there with the best post-punk of this decade

>>69589348
John Maus is my favorite musician, cool to see a thread about him. Shame about all this controversy bullshit, I'll bet he's coming up with an overly long, manic summation of the whole situation like that time during the controversy between Ariel Pink and Grimes

By the way, does anyone have that image with the whole thing? He deleted it from his twitter

>>69593099
There's virtually nothing nazi-eque about it in the slightest. People know that "Nazi" was a political party, right?

>>69589522
>>69593099
>>69593277
What's the comparison being drawn between MDE and nazis? Would someone care to enlighten me

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>>69593873
because many people have only recently heard of them because of the cancellation of world peace and many news outlets have labeled the show as the alt right show

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>>69593873
He took a pic with infamous anti-semite Andrew Auernheimer AKA Weev doing the nazi salute and once retweeted a guy who hosts a podcast called "The Daily Shoah"

MDE isn't even that funny desu. Why don't right wingers watch REAL comedians like Louis CK and Bo Burnham?

>>69593971
That's pretty tenuous, if they're willing to afford Tim Heidecker the opportunity to remain impartial on his buddy Brett Gelmann's political opinions they ought to do the same here. pretty hypocritical desu

WMBTPCOO is literally the colour blue, and is also the best

>>69592867
>oh, and he CHOKES GIRLS
Holy fuck I'm fucking dying, do these people think he's serious?
Does /mu/ honestly let a 3rd rate blogger control how they think about people?

>>69593873
they made jokes and said bad words
Those who commit thoughtcrime must be exiled.

>>69592539
The only tolerable kind of socialist 2bh

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MDE aren't even alt-right, they're just edgy. People only started calling them nazis when buzzfeed published an article saying they're alt-right.

>There are people on /mu/ who actually think MDE are Nazis
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>69593208
they were literally yelling 'vote trump' with john standing next to them

>>69596104
>There are people on /mu/ who actually watch shitty comedy shows like MDE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>tfw people actually think that the alt-right is a real thing

holy fucking shit, dude

>>69589348
my favourite neo-nazi

If we're going to talk about the music, it's because John Maus is a highly cartoonish portrayal of 80s post-punk tropes and that makes the music good as hell.

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>>69597565
>"i-i-i'm not alt right i'm a trve liberal!"

>>69597577
I always figured he were pretty safely synthpop

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>>69596104
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>>69592539
just gonna leave this here

>>69597607
Songs is a pretty clearly cut post-punk release, just with heavy synth instrumentation.

Just Wait Til Next Year, Less Talk More Action, and North of North Stars are pretty distinct from synthpop.

>>69597616
>discussion about a shitty TV show host
>>>/tv/
not music related
saged.
>>69597635
Yeah fair
Also I don't get the "alt-right" shit getting thrown at him when he literally has two songs called "Cop Killer" and "Rights For Gays"

can we just talk about John Maus' music, which is actually good, without spewing verbal diarrhea everywhere about MDE and whether they're alt right or not?

RIGHTS FOR GAYS
OHH YEAHHH

>>69597653
I used to think it was just bleed over from accusations of Ariel Pink being a misogynist.

It's a very bizarre case with Maus, because neither his music nor his statements clearly indicate any sort of actual political identity, so it's not like in the case of a musician either injecting their politics in their music or spending more time making political commentary rather than recording.

It honestly reminds me of Nazi accusations whenever Death in June is brought up, even when Douglas P is a very complex case political and in any case was friends with TG, the most transgressive group imaginable.

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>>69589348
>I'm a part of what some people call the "alt-right" and it feels punk as fuck. It feels like an actual counter culture, or rebellion against the PC culture that dominates American colleges.
what did he ean by this?

>>69597702
tbf john has some pretty fucking out-there philosophies regarding his music but none of it's """alt-right""" per se
>>69597712
>ean by this
You fucked up you worthless cumstain

>>69597721
>some pretty fucking out-there philosophies regarding his music

Keyword being "out there". He has a politic, but it's pretty clearly more complex than left or right.

>just want to discuss lo-fi synthpop
>/pol/ and reactionaries turn it into non-/mu/ related youtubefaggot discussion

>>69597721
>ean by this
of fuck thats embarrassing
im not even good at shitposting
should just kill myself

>>69597702
DiJ are definitely right wing lmao

>>69597616
Hey I'd fuck that tranny too, it's a cute one.

What's wrong with that? Who gives a shit?

>>69593368
his phone camera videos are 10/10. everything else kind of sucks, except the old thankscomputer skits.

also he's a "muh white genocide" crybaby

>>69595313
if you dig around for some things sam has posted on reddit and facebook it's pretty clear his real views are close to alt-right / /pol/

i don't think his show should've been cancelled because of it (i found some of it funny) but you can't deny that a lot of the show is a thinly veiled political soapbox for him

>>69597986
>mde's fanbase

Not gonna lie, former John Maus fan here. It's fucking hilarious watching him crash and burn. But seriously, we can't give the alt-right a platform.

Sam Hyde was a good boy, he dindu nuffin wrong

wait why is everybody saying he's alt-right? he seemed like a straight up marxist maybe weird post-marxist to me in most interviews. or is that another meme like panda bear being a white supremacist? new album when btw.

>>69597864
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>>69598245
Never mind he was a long and serious friend with the most degenerate people possible.

It is a lot more complicated than "right wing". I'm not saying Douglas is a leftist, and is very far from it, but regardless, he's not fascist enough to not hang out with heavily intoxicated pangender exhibitionists and acid-fried Jesus freaks

>>69598950
is it because the obviously ironic tweet where he sais #ImVotingBecause with a hilariously stupid trump advertisment attached to it? Is that really all the substance to this thread? A joke he made one time? Genuinly curious what else people like >>69598891 are talking about.

Is /mu/ actually this much of a leftist board or are people just trolling in this thread?

>>69599068
nah it's sincere. you have to realize that most of this board is 16-20 years old and unironically reads pitchfork

>>69599022
replying to myself once again. apparently he was on some alt-right comedy sketch show. whatever, that's not enough to say he's alt-right. i can see him not knowing much about the show but signing to it because it feels like his ironic sense of humor and being on adult swim is also hip and cool. this thread is cancer.

>>69589348
Its pretty simple you can hangout with people who don't share your political viewpoints.

I have a friend who is a white-nationalist and another who is a communist. Have I adopted their viewpoints? NO!.

>>69589386

john maus is a dirty commie

>>69592689
This

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kPshx-3AFKo

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>>69589348
never heard him, i can't imagine this is good though

>>69589386
>alt right
>rights for gays

you're retarded m8

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6cyUak7Lnho

I've never listened to him, should I just listen to Pitiless Censors first or what?

>>69598980
I'm very right wing and I love degeneracy

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>>69599085
>I'm a part of what some people call the "alt-right" and it feels punk as fuck. It feels like an actual counter culture, or rebellion against the PC culture that dominates American colleges.

>>69599267
you're either lying or you're someone who's dead inside and has no real opinion on anything

>>69600555
You have powerful trips.

You can value people's companionship while not agreeing with them dumb ass.

>>69600683
that's somewhat true, but the degree to which your friends are polarized (in something as indicative as political belief no less) just shows how spineless you are.

>>69599352
6.4 on pitchfork? Must be absolute SHIT!

>>69597474
really?

>>69600940
My dad is a hardcore conspiracy theorist who believes the earth is flat and pizzagate is actually real, so I've been innoculated, so to speak

>>69599523
yeah, it's one of the best nsbm of the last ten years, easily

>>69599523
It's generally best to start at his latest work and go backwards, since his whole career is one progressive refinement of pop sensibilities.

>>69589965
>Sing about killing cops
>Conservative
Pick one

>>69589965

He's on the far left. Don't know about the specifics.

>>69600940
I'm not the original poster you're replying to.

If you aren't capable of putting friendship above politics you're a worthless friend.

I barely agree with anyone politically. I am content not to be living in an echochamber.

>>69597616
feels faked af