>Implying this isn't their best album

they should have saved all those quality B-sides for the 3rd proper studio album instead of just putting them out on singles desu
if they did that, be here now would have been as acclaimed as the first two albums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ivt_3GFYP4

still the gallaghers' finest moment

G O D L I K E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlZ_rAH2K50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3jN1Wgs8T0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFvkms978U0

>>69582088
Masterplan is
Then this one

I agree w/ you OP

Don't see how anyone could sincerely think it's better than Definitely Maybe. Or Morning Glory really since it's literally just MG with the cocaine amped up to 11. But especially DM

>>69582679
TY bb

>>69582698
Personally I just like the sound more and for once the lyrics actually mean something, they touch on Oasis itself, the Gallagher family and living in the moment. It's simultaneously their most optimistic and most cynical album.

Fuck off Montie

>>69582911
>and for once the lyrics actually mean something
Really? I feel like Rock n Roll Star and Cigarettes and Alcohol are the only songs in the entire catalogue that capture any kind of meaning. 'being a rockstar is cool' and 'life up north on the dole is shit'. Everything else is just variations of the same sappy love song or meaningless attempts to be psychedelic a la 'I Am the Walrus'

>>69583055
Check this out
http://thequietus.com/articles/21162-oasis-be-here-now-review-anniversary

>>69582698
>he believes the critics

>>69583055
Have you ever listened to Morning Glory or Be Here Now? That's not what most of the lyrics are like at all

>>69582698
DM got old pretty quickly. MG is great but BHN and Masterplan are more interesting imo.

But really I like all their records. Dumb catchy loud rock music.

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>mfw it's my favorite album of all time

definitely maybe was the best oasis album lyrics-wise, not because noel was a better lyricist then but because songs like rock n roll star and supersonic and slide away are given weight by understanding what shitty living conditions the band members were in when they wrote those songs, what dead-end lives they were living.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aatEBIZHNU

it's the idealism which carries the whole thing.

>>69583422
DUDE

>>69583314
Exactly, not all music has to make you want to die to be good and/or have soundwaves that form the Mona Lisa when you graph them. There are so many elitists on this goddamn board.

>>69583422
Hell yeah, it's so optimistic it's amazing that a couple of poor abused kids from a cold ass part of England could make it

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>>69582698
But the cocaine is literally the reason why it's better.

>>69583422
wouldn't coke or alcohol be a more fitting stimulant for a BHN listening session though

>>69582088
>>69582911
>>69583055
>>69583422
>>69583444
>>69583466
Kek has blessed the Oasis thread

>>69583506
I love you man no joke

>>69583444
yeah I don't understand what noel is writing about now or where he gets the inspiration

falling in love at first sight in some bar? what? the guy is middle aged and married with kids.

his best lyrics came from being working class and later on as a drug addicted mess rockstar falling apart from the stress. everything else he's ever written has been nonsense.

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>>69583507
I usually mix alcohol and marijuana when I listen to it.

>>69583507
OP here, I'm currently peaking on some DXM listening to this shit

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>>69583580
The thing I love about it is its so dense that I hear something new each time I listen to it. I slip into a different groove. Sometimes I concentrate on one of the guitar solo or the drums or other times vocals. There's just so much going on.

>>69583647
Same here, and I love the lyrics here too and the overall optimism it gives me

>>69582088
based album

>>69583506
I kek'd

underrated single desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrARl0dzd-0

heard it yesterday for the first time in ages, got me in a properly wistful and nostalgic mood

STAND BY ME NOBODY KNOWOWOWOOSSS THE WAY ITS GONNA BE

>>69583556
Still great tunes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VekcdXxtzU

>>69583765
That's from Morning Glory but still good senpai

>>69583693
What's your opinion on Heathen Chemistry? It's actually my second favorite album tbqh. It's very Beatles-esque. It feels like the hangover to Be Here Now's party.

DM and WTSMG are rightfully hailed as two of the greatest records of all time but something about Heathen Chemistry hits me in the right spot.

>>69583798
To be completely honest with you I've only listened all the way through DM, WTSMG, BHN and The Masterplan but I like a couple songs off Heathen Chemistry and I'm now going to listen to it.

>>69583789
oh i know, i just felt like mentioning it for some reason

whenever people talk about oasis' early run of singles they seem to single out roll with it as one of the weaker ones, IIRC even the band said that it was a bit of a throwaway track for them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1kVXxyvvOk

I didn't know this was a real quote. Poor bloke.

>>69583506
Wtf is that gamepad

>>69583765
>>69583860
It was the song that started their battle against Blur

It was released in the same week as Country House

>>69583778
Whilst this thread gets coked and ket'd up I'll join you in posting melodic Noel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmOfEYBIuKQ

>>69583966
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPdRRfWpOQI

>>69584035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEUzDpXrBA0

INTO MY BIG MOUTH
YEAH YOU COULD FLY A PLANE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYI7PKg1fp4

His B-side/demo discography is arguably better than his studio.

>>69582088
Be here now was better as a live act, it was so energetic.
It is a underrated album for sure. I love the title track with every part of my being.
also I like the remaster

>>69583823
It's not for everyone. Go into it with an open mind.

Also, Dig Out Your Soul is a must listen as well.

>>69583422
Can I smoke weed with you please

>>69583506
Please please let me do drugs with you

>>69584261
Ill let you take a hit of my dick

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>>69582088
It was the album that killed britpop and got BTFO by way superior Urban Hymns which is also bloated as fuck, but at least it has some of the best singles of the 90s

>>69583890
Keypad for Xbox One.

One-hit wonder britpop.

>>69584337
Please drop your shitty shitty shitty trip code butch

>>69584290
Ok

Would they have broken in America for good if Liam didn't make a mockery of these two performances?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0zxbRYu_2g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnO7ywMPbJ4

>>69584337
kys

>>69584387
Typical britpop fan.

>>69584222
For once I agree with a tripfag

>>69584423
Typical contrarian who likes poseur and weeaboo shit

>>69584419
Typical britpop fan part two: generica boogaloo.

>>69584438
>contrarian
AKA "anyone who disagrees with me, ever."
>poseur and weeaboo shit
What ?

>>69584295
>Implying the Verve ever made anythi>>69584337
ng better than Be Here Now or the big two

anyone who actually tries to claim an oasis album other than definitely maybe or what's the story is their best album is being a contrarian. you cannot be taken seriously.

>>69584452
literally wrong. I'm not being a contrarian

>>69584337
>>69584423
>>69584450
Please fuck off you elitist

>>69584450
Fuck off already cunt
You never contribute anything

>>69584478
God I hate tripfags

>>69584451
and newfags wtf

>>69584478
as opposed to figuratively wrong?

fuck off retard.

>>69584295
>killed britpop

What did he mean by this?

>The Verve

Oh he's just a fucking retard nevermind

>>69584394
nah, liam's antics only made the band even more interesting to the kids and the american press
oasis' commercial momentum in the US was killed by be here now's lack of concise and immediate potential hits
even the radio edits of those songs lasted for like 5 minutes, and that sort of thing just doesn't fly on US radio

>>69584517
Go listen to Grimes or K-pop or whatever bullshit you like and fuck off out of this thread

>>69584452
Further support for the definition of "contrarian" presented here >>69584450

>>69584478
"Elitist" is not a pejorative phrase and is only used as such when someone is insecure that they are not a member of the elite.

>>69584499
Demonstrably false. Anyone who isn't new knows this.

>>69584504
>God I hate tripfags
>>>/b/

>>69584544
yeah no thanks you fucking faggot.

i've forgotten more about music than you'll ever know.

>>69584563
FUCK. OFF. YOU ARE THE WORST TRIPFAG ON THIS BOARD. WHY DO YOU EVEN USE A TRIPCODE WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

>>69584563
>Further support for the definition of "contrarian" presented here >>69584450
Except my favorite Oasis album is What's the Story. And if someone disagreed and thought Definitely Maybe was their best, I wouldn't argue. It makes sense.

Be Here Now? Masterplan? Fuck out of here. The people who say that bullshit claim to prefer Peter Green Fleetwood Mac to Rumours era Fleetwood Mac

>>69584567
I'm Paul Mccartney.

See how we can make bullshit statements on an anonymous imageboard? It doesn't make you any more correct.

The Masterplan>Definitely Maybe>What's the Story>Be Here Now>Dig Out Your Soul>everything else

Personal top 5 Oasis tracks
Listen Up
Don't Look Back in Anger
Morning Glory
Underneath The Sky
Supersonic

Side note: The Supersonic documentary was very well made. It's good they covered it from the Gallaghers childhood up to the Knebworth gig but I would've been interested in a in depth talk about the break up.

>>69584595
There are actual reasons to prefer Be Here Now. Just because I disagree with you doesn't make me a contrarian

>>69584631
No there are not.

Go get your shinebox lad

>>69584595
Oasis are one of my favourite bands, my personal favourite albums aren't to impress anyone and they certainly aren't to impress you.

Now fuck off, filtered.

>>69584588
You need to either settle down or migrate back to >>>/b/. Speak like an adult.

Typical britpop fan part three: the untermensch strike back.

>>69584595
>Except my favorite Oasis album is What's the Story. And if someone disagreed and thought Definitely Maybe was their best, I wouldn't argue.
That doesn't refute my premise, as you have already stated that either album is an acceptable choice.

>claim to prefer Peter Green Fleetwood Mac to Rumours era Fleetwood Mac
I don't know anybody besides my mother who ever cared about Fleetwood Mac, so that analogy is lost on me.

>>69584628
>The Masterplan>Definitely Maybe>What's the Story
Someone ban this tosser

>>69584655
>go get your shinebox

Who actually says things like this? Like what kind of person are you in real life? Holy fuck

>>69584676
>I don't know anybody besides my mother who ever cared about Fleetwood Mac
That's because you don't know anybody else at all you fucking loser

>>69584676
Serious question, why do you use a tripcode?

cocaine is one hell of a drug

>>69584695
>likes Fleetwood Mac
>Thinks his opinion matters

>>69584695
...or I just choose not to consort with the same low-brow types as you. You sound self-centered.

>>69584698
Serious question: why are you obsessing over me ?

How Oasis would've been the GOATs:
1. Stop releasing half of your best songs as B-sides
2. The Masterplan should've been album number three
3. Give all the songs on Be Here Now the 2016 D'you Know What I Mean?-treatment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyJU2136ym4
4. Kill Liam post 2000

>>69584728
>Why are you obsessing over me

So THAT'S why you use a tripcode, narcissism

>>69584749
>4. Kill Liam post 2000

have we laughed at beady eye yet this thread

>>69584728
Yes, instead you consort with pedophiles and transsexuals who listen to Vampire Weekend and The Strokes. Certainly very high brow.

>>69584676
>>69584718
>>69584728
Fleetwood Mac is GOAT classic rock faggots

And another thread ruined by elitist tripfags

>>69584792
These guys are in here discussion Oasis and they think they're too high brow for Fleetwood Mac

LMAO.

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>>69584563
>"Elitist" is not a pejorative phrase and is only used as such when someone is insecure that they are not a member of the elite.
>>69584676
>Typical britpop fan part three: the untermensch strike back.

Oh God I can hear the sounds of your fedora tipping

>>69584749
Noel planned to remaster all songs on BHN but he eventually just gave up

>>69584806
What are your top 5 favorite albums right now?

>>69584451
>>69584526
The Verve are automatically better than Oashit for their early shoegaze material

>>69584878
How can one man be so wrong?

>>69584749
>1. Stop releasing half of your best songs as B-sides

a shitload of the big british pop bands of the 90s did this, i have no idea why
suede have the same situation as oasis do in that arguably their best album is a collection of b-sides
funnily enough, both bands also burned out at around the same time

>3. Give all the songs on Be Here Now the 2016 D'you Know What I Mean?-treatment:

this was the plan for the BHN reissue that came out recently but they gave up after doing d'you know what i mean because there were too many tracks to sift through lel

>Oasis
>britpop

top meme

they were a 90s revival of rock and roll

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>>69584761

Anonymous posters: [constant badgering and obsessing over Friendo]
Friendo: Why are you obsessing over me ?
Anonymous: A-ha ! Caught you, narcissist !
Friendo: What ?

>>69584779
I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you feeling okay ?

>>69584792
Uh, okay. Post some then.

>>69584816
A picture of a silly man wearing a silly hat ? Is this the best that britpop fans can do ?

Typical britpop fan part four: generica esoterica et cetera

>>69584900
Suede comeback albums were actually pretty good

>>69584842
Meatbodies -s/t
Syd Barrett - Barrett
Cabaret Voltaire - Micro Phonies
Chapterhouse - Whirlpool
Dreamtime - Strange Pleasures

>>69584878
Funny because Storm in Heaven isn't half as good as the first two Oasis albums. But hurrr it's shoegaze so it must be good and hold more integrity, right? Wrong you fucking hoser.

>>69584835
Probably a good thing the Dyou know what I mean remaster is fucking terrible.

>>69584900
>a shitload of the big british pop bands of the 90s did this
Bands have always done this, almost binning what went on to be hits.

Artists and producers are very critical of their own work and don't see it the same way the public do.

Reminder

Official britpop rankings

>GOAT tier
Pulp, Suede, Manics

>Great tier
Blur, Longpigs, Mansun, James, Doves, Supergrass, Super Furry Animals, The Divine Comedy

>Good tier
The Verve, The Auteurs, Puressemce, Jack, Gene, Strangelove, Rialto, Elastica, Placebo, The Charlatans, Early Oasis, Lush, Shack, Inspiral Carpets

>Meh tier
Stereophonics, Travis, Ocean Color Scene, Ash, Dodgy, Sleeper, The Lightning Seeds, I Am Kloot, Black Grape, Shed Seven, Kula Shaker, The Bluetones

>Shite tier
Post- MG Oasis (with exception of DOYS), Menswear, Catatonia, Gay Dad, Starsailor, Cast, Ride (Last 2 albums), Hurricane #1

>>69584976
>James

stopped reading

they were fucking terrible

>>69584976
Absolutely nauseating list.

>>69584902
http://www.last.fm/music/Oasis
https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/oasis
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/oasis-mn0000393345

Typical britpop fan part five: ignoramus excessivus

Manic Street Preachers? Supergrass? is this a fucking joke?

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>Fleetwood Mac fans fighting Oasis fans

Fags.

Allow me to correct that list:

>GOAT tier
Oasis

>Great tier
Super Furry Animals

>Shit tier
All the rest of it

>>69585023
Wow cool lad you like 2 pop bands quite the snowflake you are

>>69584992
Laid is a great album, kys

>>69584998
>>69585022
says the Oashit fan LOL
James Dean Bradfield is way more talented songwriter than Gallagher

>>69585010
GTFO

>>69585010
don't care how they're classified

they're clearly not pop or british culture centred. they were full on global rockers playing loud guitars and anthems. no other britpop band even sound like them

the media just tagged them as that to create some new exciting music scene

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Anyone else a bit disappointed by this?
Maybe I should give it another go
Loved the first album

>>69585054
Typical britpop fan part six: argumentus ineptus

>people unironically defending post MG oasis

>>>/ladbible/

>>69585054
>James Dean Bradfield
Lol excuse me? Who?

>>69585069
I honestly thought it was better than first
More varied songwriting and final part is great

>>69585081
Exactly my point. This is a fucking joke of a thread.

>>69584976
you just reminded me of so many bands i don't want to ever be reminded of

the auteurs are very underrated though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKtN2by5V9o

>>69585078
Typical condescending weeaboo tripcunt: part gorillion

>>69584976
>tfw Britpop is one of your fav genres but you can't stand Oasis

Also it was much better than grunge which was total shit apart from like 3 bands

>>69585160
>total shit apart from like 3 bands

Bit like Britpop then

>>69585193
Nah bitpop had quite a few great underrated bands like Auteurs, Gene and Mansun

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This > every britpop album

>>69585245
Wrong album you tit

>>69584918
I know 'autism' is usually just a meme but I think you may actually be diagnosable

This is an interesting review from a couple months ago that takes another look at Be Here Now. As somebody who really likes the album he does a good job explaining how I feel about it

http://thequietus.com/articles/21162-oasis-be-here-now-review-anniversary

>>69585063
>they're clearly not pop
They very clearly are.

>or british culture centered
Not in the traditional sense of exalting an existing culture so much as being a synthesis of past cultures brought partly in response to the contemporary music overseas. They _became_ the culture, or at the very least a reflection of what "British culture" was becoming.

>they were full on global rockers
[chortle]

>the media just tagged them as that to create some new exciting music scene
Well, no, not really. "Britpop" was already a culturally recognized entity prior to Oasis being identified with the scene / genre / movement.

>>69585130
I don't understand why britpop fans keep calling me a "weeaboo."

>>69585268
That's because you don't know what autism is. Is it a trait exclusive to Oasis fans to slander anybody without extremely poor taste in English music ?

>>69585390
Shut the fuck up

>>69585390
>Implying Oasis is the only English band I like

Why do tripfags exist

Also, Chortle? Really? I can only imagine what you must be like in person.

>>69585390
>They very clearly are.

one or two songs maybe. you know what actual uk pop was in the 90s? britney spears and take that.

60 million records sold not global enough?

oasis should never have had anything to do with "britpop". in a fairer world they would have created their own rock revival scene and the heavier guitar centric bands would have followed.

>>69585390
Fuck off, you think Onkyo is good genre

>>69584976
>Mansun

i still remember about the time this band was supposed to tour with blur as their opening act, only for their first album to debut at no. 1 on the UK charts and for blur to kick them off the tour because they were pissed that it took mansun one album to get to the same point which took blur 3 or 4 albums to achieve
shitelife indeed

>>69582088
The songs in it are too fucking long for no reason

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>>69585405
Good post, I'm glad to be speaking with such enlightened and informed individuals.

>>69585460
Nobody implied that. Are you having trouble picking up on social cues, Anonymous ? You _do_ know what that's a symptom of, right ?

>>69585491
>one or two songs maybe
Or, you know, all of them. They exclusive made pop music. "Pop" isn't a dirty word.
>you know what actual uk pop
You're going to want to drop this entire line of thinking.

>60 million records sold not global enough?
I don't see how that correlation makes any sense in your head. Do you have distribution statistics ?

>oasis should never have had anything to do with "britpop".
They were one of the seminal britpop bands for a reason. Just because you're salty about it doesn't mean it didn't make sense.

>>69585509
Is this supposed to be an insult ? Really ? That's the best you can do ?

>>69585680
Dumb weeaaboo

tony mccarroll was such a shit drummer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haz2k6UmzK0

>>69585915
he only had one beat bless him

>>69585915
I can unironically drum better than him

Wonder how much in royalties he got from Definitely Maybe

When did Liam's voice finally go for good?
The common consensus seems to be that he started losing it around 1996 and finally lost it in 1998 or so, but I dunno, there's some performances of his in the early 2000s which are still quite solid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYmVEbKiDN8

>>69586257
I remember some absolutely terrible performances around 2004-5 where he literally growled, but I can't find a clear example.

He's recovered alright and seems to take care of it now to be fair to him.

>>69586705
https://youtu.be/SQSPFEM3HaE?t=79

>>69584394
>>69584540
Oasis did actually remain quite successful in the US even after Morning Glory though.
They filled up Madison Square Garden back in like 2005 and 2006, well after Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova first properly introduced them to North America.

>>69586860
Worse than I remember.

Hilarious hearing Noel harmonise with him.

>>69586257
His 2000 concert in wembley is okay, after that, is shit

>>69587416
>2000 concert in wembley

Maybe the first night.
The 2nd night, not so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FwV-jHNk1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHcJvwSHkt8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaR_RJiBk3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFQUiuoDM8

>>69587479
>biggest venue in the country with 100k fans
>refuses to sing
>continue to argue all gig

no wonder noel got so pissed off with him.

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you seee meee i got myyy magic piiiieeeeeeeeeeee

>>69584394
what is it with mancunian bands always fucking it up when it comes to touring america?
liam gallagher chimped out constantly during oasis' 90s tours, the fall imploded like 3 times on different US tours with mark e. smith replacing most of all of the band once they came back home, morrissey keeps cancelling his US tours, the happy mondays ended up in jail during on their US tours, ian curtis fucking killed himself shortly before joy division were supposed to tour the US...

what is it?

>>69587765
There's a lot of pressure on prospective and hyped UK bands in general to break the US, pressure that often results in them losing it while touring the States.
I don't think Manchester in particular has much to do with it, it's just that a lot of the UK's most important bands tend to come from that area.
And Ian Curtis was going to kill himself one way or the other, and Happy Mondays and Oasis' US mischief had more to do with those bands generally being out of control than anything else. Liam was a pain in the ass no matter which country Oasis were playing in during the 2nd half of the 90s/early 2000s.

Just announcing that I have taken up a tripcode because my opinion holds more weight than most of the posters on this board.

>>69587936
(As evidenced by this thread).

>>69587765
>>69587926
And yeah, Mark E. Smith also ended up in jail during The Fall's US tour in 1998.

>>69587986
Never heard of this

For what?`

>>69587765
History suggests a combination of things, firstly it's really hard for Brit bands to fiill venues in the US and that loses money. Also really hard work - America is a big place with a lot of potential bookings, touring for months isn't all its cracked up to be especially with boozed/drugged/angry young lads. Finally we just aren't very popular overall. Oasis less so, but The Smiths, Joy Division, Happy Mondays and countless others have an inherent culture statusand following very specific to the UK. So much of our music, however good, doesn't resonate with Americans at all.

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>>69587997
He assaulted his band members in a hotel room and the cops got involved. No other specifics about it ever came out.
The mid and late 90s were a pretty fucked up time for him and The Fall in general, his drug abuse during that time was insane and it reflected in his behavior.
At least it resulted in some of The Fall's best albums though.

>>69588073
I've had The Big Midweek since it came out but I haven't read it yet. I need to get on that.

>>69587999
>Oasis less so, but The Smiths, Joy Division, Happy Mondays and countless others have an inherent culture statusand following very specific to the UK. So much of our music, however good, doesn't resonate with Americans at all.

Yeah, this also definitely plays a part in it.
There's a reason why Oasis' biggest US hits were their wide-reaching ballads and not any of their very British rock and roll tunes.

>>69588167
i.e. Columbia and Morning Glory, which are both infinitely better than Wonderwall, Champagne Supernova, Don't Look Back in Anger, et al

It's really bullshit and it makes no sense. Columbia is a jam to be reckoned with.

I hate you Montie but I have to admit that the Oasis memes are a lot of fun. Oasis are extremely derivative and they've had a cancerous effect on British rock but I can't deny I deeply enjoy their 90s work.

>>69588197
Definitely. When I think of material which defines Oasis and defines where that band is coming from and what it represents I think of songs like Morning Glory and Some Might Say, not fucking Wonderwall.
It's not very surprising that those songs didn't make as much of an impact on post-grunge America as they did on the UK and Europe, but still.

>>69588167
I'm just imagining The Smiths trying to push into 80s USA when they were really going through their hard rock resurgence, with every other song written to hint at Moz's bisexuality and feminine tendencies. And of course the flowers!

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>>69584540
>>69587055
>>69587765
>>69587926
>>69587999
>>69588167
Blur toured the US in 1991/92 and they almost imploded due to drinking and shit management. When they came back they almost faded from the musical landscape due to them being seen as wateredown band wagoners, and Suede essentially replacement them/acting as competition. All of this plus their dislike of the US lead them to making the very british Modern Life Is Rubbish. However Blur were never really known in the US anyways even after Song 2 (well...not superstars.)

>>69588440
That was the tour with the Mary Chain and Dinosaur Jr. and a bunch of other bands, right?
IIRC they didn't even bother to tour the US until the late 90s after that whole debacle went down.

I'm not too keen on Oasis in general, their records are pretty spotty as far as I'm concerned, but I believe that for the duration of this particular performance of this particular song, they were the greatest rock band on the planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4oR7bv9kF0

>implying Oasis has a good album

BHN certainly has its moments. This one always has me laughing maniacally by the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxHEsYCBSLs

Also Magic Pie, because they wrote a song called "Magic Pie" and made it 7 fucking minutes long.

>>69582088
D'you Know what I mean? was such a perfect opener, if only the rest of the album could've maintained that level then it undoubtedly would've been their best

>>69589188
Yet nearly all fans couldn't give you a bad album which is rare.

Oasis did something right.

>>69589146
Slide Away is definitely a top 5, maybe even top 3 song for the band, but my favorite live performance of it was the one on Live By The Sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrdVCZCapWI

That hoarse desperation in Liam's voice during the first verse really does it for me, especially the bit around 40 seconds into the song.
The band was always best when they succeeded at maintaining that balance between muscle and vulnerability.

If the last 4 songs were as good as the first 7 songs on DOYS, it could have been the GOAT.

DM and MG (+ b side album) were amazing. What went wrong after that? Why couldn't Noel replicate his previous song writting? Were they even relevant post 1997?

>>69587936
>>69587959
I FUCKING HATE YOU

>>69587936
Seriously? Your opinion isn't worth any more than anyone else's

>>69582138
You're not wrong. It's still a quality album though. The singles are relatively close to the quality of the first two albums. If only they hadn't over done it with All Around the World.

>>69589904
>What went wrong after that?

They realized how rich they became. They were surrounded by yes-men who were either too intimidated or too sycophantic to tell them when they were making bad decisions and bad music. They had a massive amount of drugs and money at their disposal.
I really wonder what would have happened with Oasis if they took some time off instead of rushing straight into making Be Here Now and then touring behind it, I wonder if Liam would have managed to save his voice and Noel would have managed to save his songwriting abilities.
Even the band admits that making a follow-up to Morning Glory as quickly as they did was a big mistake.

>Were they even relevant post 1997?

Commercially relevant yeah, but not culturally relevant.

>>69590044
Noel went on to write one of his best songs ever though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D431CwC9wTw

>>69583506
mah nigga

>>69584976
bye rddit

>>69585069
I thought it was pretty much in the same league as the first, but a bit more varied. I really liked Lock All the Doors. I miss that classic early Oasis sound. I want him to go back to writing Rock songs. Not that his softer stuff is bad.

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>>69589902
>tfw their next album would have been their best
>it would have been the culmination of everything they had done and the best of each era in one album
>it would have been the last album before Liam's voice went to complete shit past the point of no return
>tfw it can never happen now, even if they reunite

>>69590145
As he says himself, 40 year olds can't make powerful music.

>>69590044
>Even the band admits that making a follow-up to Morning Glory as quickly as they did was a big mistake.

Came out 2 years after Morning Glory, that's not rushing it. They rushed Morning Glory following Definitely Maybe and it was brilliant.

I've heard Noel saying they should have waited to follow up MG but I don't understand his logic at all. If they had waited 3 or even 4 years for a follow up their significance would have just faded anyway.

Don't forget that BHN was fucking MASSIVE upon release and in many ways was the height of their success. It just came crumbling down shortly after.

>>69590277
Powerful in what sense? He put out Lock All the Doors in 2015. I just wish he did more songs like that.

>>69589902
>implying DOYS comes anywhere close to the first 2 albums

Really?

>>69590277
>he says himself, 40 year olds can't make powerful music.

That's what I would say too if I lost my talent.

>>69590308
>MASSIVE upon release

Because of hype, and they never recovered from the weak reception.

Although Oasis were a big band, after Morning Glory there was expectation for them to become the next era defining rock band alongside Led Zeppelin or The Who. A combination of extreme drug use, arguing and lack of world class musicianship held them back.

>>69587479
wasn't this performance broadcast live on TV in real time lmao
fucking hell liam

>>69590432
>Because of hype

You say that as if it detracts from anything. Why do you think they had so much hype? Because they were fucking MASSIVE. They were at their most culturally significant from 95-97.

And yes, the album wasn't as solid as the first 2 which helped lead to the backlash it got later on. But it was probably also due to the fact that people were getting tired of them and they hadn't really changed their style at all over those first 3 albums.

It's one of the classic problems bands face. They either change their sound and get called sellouts for abandoning their roots or keep their sound and get called boring and repetitive. Unless you're lucky and find that sweet spot.

>>69590348
>>69590392
He's right though, look at Paul Weller trying to create heavier music in recent years. It's alright but ultimately forgettable and he really should return to more soul-orientated stuff where his core talent lies. Same for Noel, his best writing has been more down-tempo almost ballady stuff over the years. He knows he should stick to that.

>>69587479
>liam won't shut the fuck up
>liam talks in the middle of songs
>liam sounds like shit when he DOES song
>noel plays a pink telecaster

Dropped

>>69590535
>He's right though, look at Paul Weller trying to create heavier music in recent years.

That's why I'm asking though. What does he mean by powerful music? Is he speaking about "heaviness" like the actual intensity of the music? Or does he mean music that can effect people in a powerful way? Does he mean relevance?

I agree that old guys trying to "rock out" like 20 year olds isn't very cool. But Noel isn't that fucking old. And once again, his hardest rocking song of the last decade was Lock All the Doors and it was great.

>>69590620
>Lock All the Doors

The majority of that song was written when he was in his 20s. He didn't finish it until 2015

>>69590543
i don't think there's a single song during that set which isn't interruped by liam going on rants about his ex-wife or how much he hates wembley stadium or him insulting the audience or something else
they definitely should have gotten him off the stage at some point during the set

>>69584337
>one hit wonder
Even in america this is false lmao

>>69590668
Yeah Wembley wasn't a great gig. This is the last truly good liam live vocal imo:

https://youtu.be/IPXP2aqftKQ

>>69590620
>Is he speaking about "heaviness" like the actual intensity of the music? Or does he mean music that can effect people in a powerful way? Does he mean relevance?

All of the above. Both Gallagher and Weller are cultural icons, young men who made music that punched you in the face. Now they have widely gained respect but will never ever make the same impact with music as they did in their pasts.

I was gutted when The Stone Roses reunited because as a group they had exactly the same cultural status, and of course they've been shite.

>But Noel isn't that fucking old
I thought he was 40, turns out he's nearly 50. That's pretty old.

>>69590759
>I thought he was 40, turns out he's nearly 50.

He's like 7 or 8 years older than Liam.

>>69582478
what a comfy era

>>69590759
>All of the above.

Hi Noel

>>69590535
>his best writing has been more down-tempo almost ballady stuff over the years.

Then why was the best song on his last album a Rocker?

>>69590969
If you're referring to Lock all the Doors that song was pretty mediocre at best

>>69591028
Yeah the 92 demo was better

>all this talk of how great Oasis B-sides were
>nobody bothers to post the best one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIjTUOb-5oo

Just because he's 50 doesn't mean he can't plug a guitar in, I'm simply saying what he's already said himself, he is not the all powerful godlike rock star anymore and never will be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VekcdXxtzU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZv5POIbUss

STEP OFF THE TRAIN ALL ALONE AT DAWN

>>69585245
It's not fair to pick one of the greatest rock albums ever and compare it to a genre that reached its peak, albeit a pretty great one, with the album Different Class

>>69591774
*snorts line of coke*

>>69591960
>>69591774

GET UP OF THE FLOOR AND BELIEVE IN LIFE, NO ONE'S EVER GONNA EVER ASK YOU TWICE

Fuck haters this album kicks ass

>>69591937
>Implying Be Here Now wasn't the peak of Britpop

>>69586860
I feel bad for Liam here, he has to know how awful he sounds now.

>>69593195
I saw Oasis live a few times, you could never hear him anyway.

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>>69582088
I dont think its a bad album, technically its pretty similar to their previous ones (Albeit with a bit more "grandeur"), and the lyrics are more of the same. (lyrics were never oasis's strong point)

The problem is Oasis was a singles band. Think of almost any song off their first two albums and you instantly know the chorus and the sound of the track. They were unpretentious bangers, but with be here now it doesn't have that. listening to it you think ,"wow, this is pretty good" but it doesn't have anywhere near the same staying power after the fact. The only song that comes close is stand by me.

>>69593594
>The problem is Oasis was a singles band

don't really get you. they have a handful of songs that everybody knows, but so does every big band.

oasis's fanbase and album sales were still huge right until they split. you won't get that impression if you only read /mu/ threads but their latest music was all over UK media constantly, they were damn popular and not really a greatest hits band.

>>69582088
Heathen Chemistry is

>>69590348
Yeah, but he wrote that in 1992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzdYNjLbwZI

>>69593594
>The problem is Oasis was a singles band.

They really weren't. Singles bands don't tend to have multiple albums that are considered all time greats. The general consensus is that their first two albums are pretty much great start to finish.

>>69594696
Lol no

>>69597001
Yes it is

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>>69582088
Is it me or does MGMT's s/t cover look really fucking similar to this?

Posting in 200+ reply Oasis thread

Be Here Now has always been underrated. Noel has always panned it himself. The critics couldn't wait to destroy it. But then they hated Morning Glory when that came out too. BHN still sold way more copies in a single day than most bands sell in a whole career. I was a teenager at the time and when that album came out, Oasis were a fucking phenomenon. Fond memories

The album is the sound of the biggest band in the world walking offstage from the biggest gigs in UK history coked out of their minds and not having the foresight to take a break for a while. A classic cocaine album.

D'You Know What I Mean, My Big Mouth, Magic Pie, Stand By Me, All Around The World all fucking great tunes. Yes its too long and overblown but thats what is so fucking great about it. No band could make an album like this today. You could argue it was the last truly monster, over-indulgent rock n roll album ever made. Times have certainly changed

>>69582478
Yea supersonic is great.

>>69585054
James Dean Bradfield is unironically one of the absolute best songwriters of the 90's and 00's. His melodic sense is superior to fucking Cobain's. Bloke is a genius.

>>69597012
Songbird and Stop Crying are good. Rest is pish.

Tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D431CwC9wTw

>>69601097
PANIC IS ON THE WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY

madferit

>>69598627

Massive Oasis fan here. Manics another personal favourite. JDB is seriously fucking talented. Not only a fucking shit hot guitarist and brilliant singer but created so many great melodies from Ritchie and Nicky's verbose and fucked up political lyrics

Peaked on Everything Must Go and This Is My Truth in terms of his melodic mastery. Love the guy

i shoulda stayed in england
with my big house
and my big car
and all me friends there at the bar

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>you will never live in England and wear track suits and hang with the lads down at the local pub

>>69603674

La la laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>69590790

He's 5 years older than Liam. Liam is 44, Noel will be 49 next year

>>69587479

I was there on the first night

2nd night Liam was out of it. But 1st night was pretty fucking great from where I was standing and they got a pretty good live album out of it too

>>69583526
Fuck you

>>69603875
Should have made Yokohama the live album. Liam's vocals are way better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqUEwWnUtFU

>>69588197
For sure. Columbia is definitely my favorite thing they've recorded

>>69587479
holy fuck, i forgot all about this
my brother had the whole show taped on VHS
still one of the funniest things i've ever seen

>>69587479
>i'm in one of them fuckin moods, you know the moods... that you get in and can't get out of
>a really fucked up mood
>it's true, i am a fuckin twat

poor liam

the only good brtipop bands are Radiohead, late Cardiacs, Mansun and late Blur

>>69604408
late blur isn't britpop though

>>69604408
Good lord, fuck off you gigantic tool.

>>69584992
You are terrible you faggot

>>69585069

I digged it, he made some great tunes

>>69585245

Of course, its like compairing gold to shit

>>69584337
No, dont be NaCl

>>69593594
>singles band
Not really m8, their albums arent full of filler, not all songs were amazing but i would never say they did shitty filler to complete an album

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Kanye is good , Oasis is trash

-- /mu/

it all went downhill when bonehead and guigs quit desu

>>69605498
desu yes
oasis should have just ended in 99

>>69606091
*95

>>69606140
Why 95?

>>69586257
He was still relatively fine in 2000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnVdYJDtvVg

2001-2002 was when his voice noticeably started going to shit and 2004 was arguably his nadir.

>>69608899
His voice really started to go as the 2000 tour progressed through

>>69582088
>implying it isn't a shitted up mess

if Noel had saved the b-side songs for the third album and not made every song 10 minutes too long it could have been their best album. noel even has acknowledged it himself

1. Acquiesce
2. All Around The World (shortened to 3-4 minutes)
3. Half The World Away
4. Stand By Me (shortened with less repetition of the chorus)
5. (It's Good) To Be Free
6. Don't Go Away
7. Listen Up
8. Going Nowhere
9. Headshrinker
10. The Masterplan
11. D'You Know What I Mean?

they would have been remembered by the masses in the same sentence as the beatles, stones, zeppelin and pink floyd

>>69610616
Never heard these B-Sides that keep getting mentioned, wonder if they're any good

The album however is the most overlong god-damned thing I've ever heard in my life. Literally every track is 8 times as long as it should be, holy shit. I was expecting a beautiful titan after those first two albums being pretty good

>>69610699
>wonder if they're any good
yes. just listen to the masterplan. they are some of their best songs

>>69593195
he sounds a fair bit better these days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMrW3G8HS0Q

>>69583778
THIS IS LOW KEY ONE OF HIS BEST SONGS EVER

>>69610850
But still not a patch on the glory days or even his voice in the early 00s at the beginnings of tours

>>69610974
yeah but at least he can actually sing the songs

>>69585069
I liked the first album more but you must admit this album had some of Noel's finest songwriting in ages. Ballad Of The Mighty I is what I show people who don't like Noel or Oasis and it usually converts them

>>69611000
There's still songs he can't sing anymore. He could still do D'you Know What I Mean and Some Might Say in their original key in 2000, hasn't been able to since.