/gg/ guitar and bass general

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>>69211125
>TFW you realize that Danny Kirwan was the better guitar player in the band.

How do I git gud?

>>69211360
autism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HOjpWfJbpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxgY9eEFiYM

>>69211397
memorize all the chord shapes on 6th, 5th, and 4th strings

Then learn how functional and sequential harmony works. This applies to metal as well, and other genres where complex harmony is hard to find, so you likely won't be using the extended chord shapes like 9ths and 13ths as block chords, but in lead guitar you will use them in arpeggios.

Depending on what genre you're doing, you should either learn scale shapes, licks, or arpeggios for lead. Preferably all of them.

who /prog thrash/ here

https://clyp.it/ziktu4oy

any r8 desu

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>tfw learned new song on guitar
>decided to learn it out of boredom
>go through the usual anxieties of having difficulties learning the song
>eventually learn it to a decent degree
>don't feel anything after being able to play it

I used to be glad being able to learn something on guitar that was difficult for me. Now I just do it. Where should I go from here?

the song I learned was Spirit by Ghost btw. I learned it 10 minutes ago.

>>69211467
What gauge are your strings?

>>69211768
Isn't creating your own sound and music like the next logical step?

>>69211917
standard 10-46

why?

>>69211940
I do that. But I don't have fun making new music either.

I learned Interstellar Overdrive by ear (the main riff not the circlejerk part). I know it's an easy tune but I'm proud of myself.

>>69211949
Your power chords will sound heavier with thicker gauge strings.

>>69211467
Some good riffs
Not getting much progginess from it though

I'm more of a /melodeath/ guy myself
https://clyp.it/zuahn4o2

>>69212186
Now this gives me inspiration to keep playing guitar. Great stuff man!

I'm looking for a giggable guitar around the 600 euro mark.. Considering buying a faded SG as I don't give a fuck about finish, As long as the thing works I'll play it. and I'll probably swap the pickups anyways.. Anyone that has had bad experiences with one? It's not going to be my primary guitar, It'll probably end up as a backup within a year because I'm buying a new #1 next summer.

>>69212218
Thanks friend

>>69211768
very impressive

any help with building angular guitar chords? i've got a few wonky ones but i don't know any way to make more of them on my own to give them that math rock sound

>>69210250
still in SOS mode

>>69211981
Good work man. How long you been playing? I figured out the James Bond theme after I had been playing for like a year and a half and I was pretty pleased

>>69211971
do you just not like playing music

>>69212226
I recorded this with faded SG

>>69211467

>>69212574
Think about getting a better amp first. Those Crush amps do not handle dirt pedals that well.

Guys I am thinking about buying a capo but I am unsure as to what to get the closest music store to me has what is shown in the link below and a few others but I am not sure about them, any advice.

https://www.southernmusic.com.au/collections/guitar-accessories/products/dunlop-87n-electric-capo
https://www.southernmusic.com.au/collections/guitar-accessories/products/ashton-cp2-bottle-opener-capo

>>69213158
could i get a suggestion? I normally just use this for practice and rely on my friends ridiculous orange tube head

>>69213274
>I normally just use this for practice and rely on my friends ridiculous orange tube head
>orange tube head

Well there you go m8, start looking for a tiny terror.

>>69211467
sounds like regular thrash metal to me. But good thrash metal.
maybe add some kinda complex drum playing, even if it's a pain to do it with programed drums

>>69211985
Not only, it has also a lot to do with how you attack the string and how you setup your amp.

>>69212186
>melodeath
>it's death metal with melodies and not gay bland death metal
I like you anon. Got any soundcloud/bandcamp or whatever ?

As a good player, Im playing with 8k worth of gear. It doesnt make me happy or better. People hate me even more because of jealousy and I think they are going to try to rob me soon. A gun is something Im adding to my setup soon.

whats your rig friendo

>>69213411
Mesa 90 watt mark V
Marshall Vintage Modern
Running in tandem into two 4x12s
Fulltone tape delay
the real klon
Sonic blue MIM fender strat with gold spun hum canceling pickups

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>>69213386
>A gun is something Im adding to my setup soon.

lmao. do what you gotta do.

>>69213425
I fear for my fucking life. I hate Seymour D for talking me into these pickups.

>>69213424
your strat looks nice in my head

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>>69213498
Took it apart recently to have a custom made neck fitted

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LOOSE JACK ANON

I fell asleep before you replied. Loctite is a brand, but its what everyone calls thread locker, like the q tip/cotton swab thing. Thread locker is like glue for nuts and bolts, keeps them from coming apart over time from vibration or other movement. A nut driver is a screw driver meant to turn nuts. A nut is that hexagon thing that holds the jack in place. Dont use pliers, youre going to damage the nut. Loctite comes in semi permanent, permanent, and i beleieve one weaker than semi permanent. Get the weakest so when you eventually need to take that jack out you can.

Make sure the back of the jack is held in place so you dont twist the wires and damge them, take the nut off, put a little loctite on the threads(if youre clumsy put masking tape around the area so you dont get loctite on your guitar), put the but back on, tighten it to the point youd have to force it to tighten more(stop at that point, dont be heavy handed), let it set for however long the package says it needs to cure.

can we get some guitar love in here lads, im so glad i started playing guitar and it feels so good to just sit down and play, so satisfying. how do you feel about it

>>69213733
I just started relearning it, I knew a bit some 3-5 years ago, but I forgot a lot of stuff. Feels good to be back. And now I want to learn it properly. I'm probably gonna come back here regularly to help with motivation.

Hey guys, looking at buying a Tiny Terror or a Dark Terror for just bedroom playing (pretty sure I can't settle for the micro versions of either, but if you can encourage either I'm open to suggestions), any suggestions on which way to go? I'm rather torn because I do play clean a lot, however I also love heavy distortion (love Boris especially).

I'm a bit worried about the maintenance a tube amp entails, but I'm told if I take care of everything I don't have to worry about anything typically for about 5 years.

>>69214219
you're never getting a Boris tone out of 20W
unless maybe if you buy twenty of them

>>69214244

I know, but I don't really have $10,000 lying around. If that's what I like, doesn't hurt to go after it right? Or do you think my money would be better spent elsewhere?

>>69213733
Only thing that's made me happy in my post-adolescent life. Gains are addictive, expanding your theoretical knowledge is erudite and satisfying. Good for you that you found guitar, don't let anyone put you down about it. Keep it up guitarbro. Here's to many more years of GAS.

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Should I or no?

>>69214881
>6 strings
That's no meme machine

>>69214907
There's a 7 for 100 more desu

I have a good share of mememachines

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>>69214947

>>69213733
I started playing in late november 13 years ago. Theres times i dont play as much right now because of work, stress, commitments, etc, but ive never set it down. Longest ill go without playing is a month, but thats rare. Its normally every other day, if even for 10 minutes. Its opened doors for me like nothing else. I appreciate all types of music now, mostly. Not saying i listen to them, but i can hear them and listen attentively. Some of my best friends were just people i knew but through music i developed strong relationships with them.

I dont know what id be doing if i wasnt so involved in music. Probably working and hating life.

Deader than guitar music

stop doing whatever you do RIGHT NOW and post the most fun songs to play

I'll start
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni8KBhnebwE

>>69214838
>Only thing that's made me happy in my post-adolescent life
same
I'd be one depressed fuck without my guitar

>>69211360
>>69211420
>british band
>only good band members are american

>>69214266

Takeshi plays a Micro Terror so I don't think you'll have much trouble.

Do invest in an actual tube amp sometime though, an Orange Rockerverb, a Matamp or a Sunn Model T should get you there.

So, 8months player here on a shitty chinese nylon guitar and I am able to play most chords and strumming patterns and some fingerstyle. How am I doing? Should I be already able to play some lead guitar and improvise on some scales?

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What guitar are you CURRENTLY playing, /gg/?

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>>69215987
Forgot pic

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>>69215992

None.

I'm at work.

Fug

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Want to upgrade from my OE-20 and might buy a PSL20 this weekend, but what are some other guitars between $500 and $700 with that arch in the neck that would be good for someone who plays doom, black metal, and blue grass? Are Mitchels good, I was also looking at schecters and ibanezs

How often should I change my strings? I bought my guitar 2 and a half months ago and the bottom three strings have gotten a bit rusty already

>>69216100
depends. every couple of months is good if you're a bedroom musician. hell you could keep them until they break if you don't give a shit about tone.

I've never ever seen string rusts on any of my instruments. you might want to get a dehumidifier or else you'll have neck problems too.

>>69216146
Be careful with chemical based dehumidifiers and those little dessicant packets. Some can damage fragile finishes on the long run.

>>69216100
>>69216146

My uncle and cousins guitars get that rust, but that's because they have like 30 guitars and aside from the few they play frequently, they haven't been touched in years unless I picked it up. That being said, if you play a guitar frequently, change your strings when you feel you need that fresh crispy tone. So maybe before you record something or jam, play live for something, or maybe every month if you do lessons.

>>69216225
could be a climate thing. I live in a dry location but I have no idea what the people down south have to content with.

>>69216243

They live in california about two hours south of san francisco. I live in illinois and never get rust, and my house is dry in the winter.Something I'll say with some of the rusty strings on their guitars is that some of them have been in those cases for up to 30 years, so those brittle cardboard leather feeling cases (hell if I'd put an early 80's les paul in a case like they have theirs in)

I have this shitty small guitar amp.
Can I connect it to my (also small) speaker amp using the audio out with an 3,5 adapter?
It does sound better, but I'm a tiny bit afraid it will burn down my house.

>>69215138
That's really inspiring man.
I picked the guitar in March for the first time at 25 because I was going trough some rough times and I needed the distraction and then my friend did it and now we jam together every week and it's the most fun I've had in a really long time.

>tfw too drunk to work my robot tuning

fucked up somehow and stuck in open g. I gave up.

>>69216378
>tfw hands too cold and its hard to play

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what the fuck happened to guitar prices?

>>69216425
Lack of competition and ingenuity.

>>69211768
Learn to play by ear and start making music

>>69216425
Most of Schecter prices remain at $1200 which in Mexibux is still a lot for me but I saved for one and I don't regret the purchase. :^)

>>69215987
Yes I'm 6 months in and know scales you should be learning how to play by ear and practicing rhythm if you have your chords down. Rhythm is fairly difficult lead isn't too hard unless you're using a metronome when playing but you should be while playing scales.

>>69216425
>tfw the finish you want costs €150 more
black guitars were a mistake

>>69216454
there's plenty of odd, novel stuff (fanned frets, asymetrical neck profiles, active preamps[...]), it's just that the average guitarist doesn't want/need it.

>>69216000
Man that jazzmaster looks sexy

$3000 in my acoustic guitar fund right now. new martin or vintage dove?

>>69216425
Do you want something like a strat or tele? If so, find someone local who is decent with tools (and maybe a second guy who can solder). Buy cheap bodies from eBay, get decent necks and you'll have a "better than fender" tele or strat for the cost of a few hours of work + parts.
There probably is already someone doing something similar near you.

>>69216460
those high end models are good desu

>>69216644
Buy a new martin

>>69216644
>3000 for an acoustic guitar
For what fucking reason man you could drop 200-300 and get something well above decent acoustics aren't even that great unless you're getting an electric/acoustic and plan on using pedals.

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>http://www.rondomusic.com/Agile_Septor_727_RN_CP_CF_FLB.html

oh you guys are going to love this one

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>>69216682
nah man, dang ol, wood man, kno what, wood, kno dang ol, feel?

>>69216682
This is the truth but dont spend more than 300 on an electric either. Buy a 300 dollar electric and spend the rest of your budget on an amp and as many cabs as you can

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want to cop one of these. anyone tried the new mustangs or duo-sonics ?

>>69216915
Spend a good piece on the amp and the guitar. Don't do what I did for a few years and spend 4 times as much on your pedals then your guitar and amp are worth thinking it will make them sound better.

>>69216915
eh, it depends on too much. how many people can actually afford/want to haul a shit ton of loud amps. a lot of the people on this board probably just record in their apartment and never play shows.

>>69216566
J Mascis signature. Overpriced like all jazzmasters, the Squier one is pretty great though.

>>69216682
the acoustic guitars you get for 300 bucks are okayish but still kinda suck

you can get bretty nice ones for 1000 or so tho

>>69216566

Thanks anon, I wish it wasn't so beat-up, but I've had it for so fucking long and I'm not the original owner so it's to be expected.

>>69217018

You should probably open the picture, Anon.

>>69213658
thanks man

>>69215854
i tried learning this song but it's hard as fuck. post a clyp if you can actually play it

>>69216682
I'd legit rather spend $3k on an acoustic rather than $3k on an electric, the craftsmanship behind the body is far more intricate than "drill a bunch of holes and sand off the top so it's smooth".
But if I had $3k to blow on musical instruments, I'd get a bass rig, a guitar rig, and drums, rather than just a grandpa's guitar.

>>69216707
that's just ugly, their fretless with a floyd is far more meme

>>69217055
?? What about the picture?

>>69216971
The duo sonics are nice reroute the bridge and throw in a humbucker with your sonic and it's 10/10.

>>69217225

It's a Fender American Vintage Reissue, not the Squier Mascis sig.

>>69217388
Oh I thought he did a fender one with exactly the same looks as the squier one, but I guess I was wrong. Guess the squier is based on that model then.

>>69216682
>>69217033
>>69217191
>people shit their pants over 3000$ for an acoustic guitar
That gets you a decent upright bass for a student. A new set of strings sets me back 200 bucks minimum, more like 300-400 for nice strings.

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>>69217388
>>69217666

Oh yeah, I got a gold guard + gold TOM bridge for my american Jazzmaster after I saw his back-up guitar. (the one in the picture)

His Squier sig is based on it too, I had a different pickguard on mine but once the signature was released I thought I'd be more content having an actual Mascis sig pickguard on my tribute guitar.

>>69211458
This is good advice.

>>69217709
congrats.
you're getting cucked by classical music

>>69211420
https://youtu.be/SgnOJXIvu6s

>>69217788
Yeah right, he probably plays psychobilly and never changes his strings unless they break

>>69217788
Do you realize how many hours of work it takes to build an UB?

>>69217709
>A new set of strings sets me back 200 bucks minimum

I still remember the look on my ex's face when she had to get a new bridge + strings. Almost 400 bucks right there.

>>69217819

And he painted his bass white w/ tattoo-style roses, anchors and skulls on it

*shudder*

>>69214993
That's pretty.

>>69217709
>implying I don't shit myself over the prices of classical instruments too
That's the issue with loving playing any kind of instruments, if you're poor, you get fucked.

>>69217848
And the paint is chipping from being put in the bed of his 1980s pick up truck.

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Post your very first guitar and some specs

>Plywood body
>Maple neck
>Rosewood fretboard
>24 3/4 inch scale
>Seymour Duncan JB
>Ebay vintage Strat tuners

I accidentally put .11 strings on it, had to tune it to Standard D.

It plays decently.

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Anyone here who started out playing guitar when they were in their 20s?

I am 22 now, is it too late for me to git gud?

Also how much should I spend on my first guitar? Should I buy an electric one first or would that be stupid?

Thanks

>>69217861
isnt the whole world like that?

>>69218087
Zappa and Albini started around 19 and Cobain around 14 they all started working on stuff within 2-3 years.

>>69218047

>>69216000 my first bass, 2006 mexican Fender Jazz bass
>Alder Body
>maple neck
>rosewood fretboard, nice ass clay dots
>stock everything except:
>badass bass II bridge
>refinished in shell pink (took it to a luthier who was also a friend so he took like 2 years to finish it that son of a bitch, but he got me that Jazzmaster on the pic for cheap so I didn't complain)

I love this bass.

Selling a Epiphone thunderbird bass, 2014. How much should I ask for? $300-$350? In good condition, hardly played.

>>69218157
>2 years for a paint job
Nigga

>>69218157
Some friend.

>>69217823
do you realize you can approximate the sound on a keyboard for like $50

>>69218188
>>69218201

There's a reason he doesn't own a shop anymore and got his shit sued off by some of his customers. But alas, he's my friend.

Funny story, he works at a different amp/guitar repair shop now but has to walk in through the back door and isn't allowed to the desk. I didn't know so the first time I went I asked at the front "hey is -luthier- here?" and the guy at the cashier just yells at me "SHUT THE FUCK UP don't tell anyone he's working here dude Jesus fuck."

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>>69218458
>Being wanted by the cops for not finishing a guitar job

Being a luthier is fun as fuck, how did he manage to get 4 GTA stars?

>>69218458
>>69218494
guitarists are terrible people

>>69218494

Same reason, delivering jobs way, way late, not delivering jobs, misplacing customer's items.

I think the worse was this one time someone stole a customer's Rickenbacker 360 12-string from his shop along with some other shit, he had to pay most of that shit off his back and close store after.

>>69217848
Yup, I know that feeling.
>>69217861
Well you can get plywood basses for a few hundred bucks but I have yet to find one that doesn't require a complete setup and isn't a complete pain in the ass to play arco.
But you can get away with cheaper basses when you just play pizz, just don't expect them to sound amazing.

>>69216644
get on the waiting list for a Wayne Henderson.

>>69218047
My first bass was a Yamaha TRBX 174, neck was too thick and wide, pickups were trash, no body contour, bridge started rattling after a few months, didn't stay in tune properly.
That said, it got me started and I'm really happy for that.
First guitar was a noname Chinese strat copy, sold it within a few weeks. I currently have my first classical guitar, 30 bucks used, I actually like it.
>>69218087
I started playing bass when I was 20. Not even 2 years in now but I have the chance to play with a jazz ensemble soon and I'm fairly confident that I'll find a band in the summer when I have more time.

>how much should I spend
I'd get something used or something really cheap, you can learn how to do a proper setup and you can mess up without any real consequences. That said, I haven't been playing for long and I already own some pretty expensive instruments.
Pretty sure you can start on an electric, I don't see an issue with that.

>>69218047
My first guitar was some Behringer stratocaster copy. Was REALLY fucking shitty.

My first bass was a Squier Bullet Bass from 1984 miJ. Didn't have the original pickups, but plays pretty great, actually. I love it

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Finished putting my Muttcaster together. It sounds gr8 :,)
Chinese body (my first guitar when I was 11)
American neck w/ locking tuners
Mexi HSS pg

Finished the body myself

>>69218110
I'm talking "first world poor", not extremely poor

>>69218621
I can't exactly spare a few hundred bucks now though, I still need to buy a new guitar, then I'm buying a bass(and I'd need a bass amp to go with), then drums, on top of having actual living expenses. Thank god I'm young.

>>69218976

pretty cool anon

>>69212369
Alternate tunings and uneven note values/time signatures

>>69218047
Epiphone Les Paul special II

"Mahogany" body but I bet money it was basswood
"Mahogany" neck but it was maple
Shitty tuners
Shitty pickups
Shitty nut and TOM
played like barbed wire on a 2x4

Is a solid body Mitchell worth looking into? If not I'm going Washburn or Ibanez

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>>69218047
>Mahogany back, sides, and neck
>Rosewood fretboard
>24 3/4" scale length
>Almost 50 years old
>.13s
>standard tuning

>>69219343
>First guitar was a Gibson
Man get the fuck out

>>69218976
Very nice m8 mirin that fat strat what humbucker did you throw in? I'm thinking of getting some 500k pots putting my single coil dimarzio sd in the middle and throwing in a JB humbucker in the bridge.

>>69218047
First was a $100 acoustic from walmart. I can't remember the brand name but I did see it getting smashed in a movie one time. Was a real shitty guitar but at the time it was awesome.

>>69218047
Epiphone SG Bully
Don't remember the specs

>>69219378
I was born into it please don't hurt me

>>69219439
You were born in a guitar? Most of us were born in a hospital you hillbilly fuck

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>>69219343
>>.13s
You learned on that? You must've been one hardcore kid.
To be fair I never tried them, never bothered trying anything other than .10s and .11s except when I played on my friend's .09s stringed guitar and it felt like spaghetti.

Hey /gg/. I'm not usually one to shill for any particular online store but I noticed something on amazon Canada that the resident leafs might want to take a look at. Today as part of their black friday week sales they have gibson and epi guitars on for 50%-60% off.

>>69219485
Anyone know how to get placenta stains off the inside of an acoustic guitar?
>>69219563
It was pretty rough for the first week or so, but the calluses built up quick. Nowadays the thinner strings hurt my fingers more

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I'm curious, /gg/.

Do you have a studio where you play or do you prefer a proper amp corner/practice mini stage? Post your space.

This is where I play and record, but I use Bias FX so I barely use the amp.
(Also cable management to be fixed)

r8 me and r8 others

>>69219764
>star wars legos

ugh

no I just play in my room and its always a piece of shit cause my whole family complains and sleeps at different hours since we all have different shifts at our respective jobs

>>69219811
What's wrong with SW Legos?
I was a poor kid and never had any Legos growing up so I bought that shit when Force Awakens came out and it was fun to build.

>>69218047
It was a cheap local made classical guitar. Wasn't mine but I fucked around with it a couple months then gave it back and got an ibanez gio starter pack with a shitty 15w amp. Had so much fun with it back then even though everything was shitty. Traded those for a chink LP that I still have.
>>69218087
>>69218724
I started at 18. Started bass at 20, and now a year later got offered a spot in a big band orchestra, because there seems to be a lack of bassists around. I even told em I have no musical education and they said it's alright; city must be starved of bassists.

>>69219764
Nice mousepad. That's pretty funny.

I just run my amp head in to an audio interface and play with headphones at home. Apartment so volume levels are a concern. On the rare occasion i find some people to play with I will rent a cab and go wherever they have set up to play.

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>>69219914
>Nice mousepad
Thanks, I spent 5 dollars on this joke.

>>69215982

Takeshi plays a Micro Terror? Really? I find that kind of hard to believe, that thing is be completely drowned out by what Wata plays.

>>69220056

He plays two Model Ts into 4x12s and a Tiny Terror into a 8x10

source: I've seen them live 5 times.

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>>69220087
>source: I've seen them live 5 times.

>>69220087

Ah cheers. Bloody jealous too. Wonder if they bother with the Dark Terrors now too.

>>69216644
I'd probably go Martin in your situation. Unless you have a local luthier who makes awesome stuff and has some already built that he wants to sell at that price.

>>69220087
>five times
You went to their Flood tour didn't you? Lucky cocksucker I got to see Pink but would take Flood over everything.

Now that were on Boris, does anyone know how to play that riff halfway into Red?
https://youtu.be/Fr56Ilc4XWs?t=13m10s

I haven't touched my electric guitar in months and the moment i rearrange my room and move my amp next to my desk, i suddenly start playing at least once a day. i've played more in the past week on my electric than i have in the several months beforehand

>>69218047

My first was an Ibanez grx40. Late 90's model. Bought it for $250 when i was 16. Basswood body (i think?), roseboard fretboard. H-S-S pickup configuration. Tuners: shit. Bridge: shit. Nut: improperly filed. I still have it in storage. It is beat all to hell, including a diy paint job performed by 18 year old me that only decreased its already poor appearance.

>>69220162

Nah, I honestly doubt it. You'd be surprised at how clean they run their amps, it's just the insane volume.

>>69220149
They will continue to tour, anon, it is your duty to catch up to me.

>>69220486

Yeah, I could've seen them on one of their major city twofer shows (flood one night, old songs the next) but I didn't have a ride for it.

Still was amazing, was even better when they closed off with Huge.

I only know a few Boris songs, but to play any of their shit you need to tune down to Bb.

>>69220976
>paint job performed by 18 year old me that only decreased its already poor appearance
post

>>69218047
A red Fender Coronado II with like 20 year old strings on it.
Found it while clearing stuff out of my grandparent's attic a couple years ago and started playing shortly after.

>>69218976
That came together real nice. Well done!

>>69221007
I would but it's in storage. I can describe though:

>originally black with white pickguard
>sanded body down to the primer but not all the way to the wood so it has the dull grey of primer
>the primer was too hard to sand through and all i had was a low power sander
>pickguard painted with red and yellow um... "flame" design with acrylic paint with a brush

The little girl who did the repaint on the Rick bass that an anon posted a little while ago did a better job than me.

>>69221162
>The little girl who did the repaint on the Rick bass that an anon posted a little while ago did a better job than me.

Sailor Moon stickers make your bass really shine.

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>>69221186
I know right?

>>69220989
they will never come to my country ;_;
but hey i saw karma to burn twice, russian circles and stoned jesus and am seeing swans in a few months so i guess that's something

>>69216384
Not him but that's been me these past 2 months. My room is in the attic of my house so it's blistering cold. I have two heaters but I cam only keep one on or I'll blow a fuse. And fuck having to keep going down 3 flights of stairs to my basement just to fix it. Haven't been playing much recently.
It's miserable here in PA

>>69221288
I want that with hitler so I can play in an NSBM band

>>69218157
a Kawasaki acoustic yes not a Yamaha but a Kawasaki

Playing challenging songs vs practicing? What would you guys say is better

>>69221729
Understanding the theory and technique behind the song. Practicing a song, and practicing your instrument are two different things.

Can you guys imagine an instrumental song that grows, and end with this solo?
I like this solo i made and want to use it in an actual song.

https://a.clyp.it/xtwc1kdx.mp3

>>69221819
A lot of time, you don't need to understand the theory behind the song to play it, raw technique is more important.

name me some boutique builders that are unique like cardinal instruments please. I really want something similar, id prefer a really small builder though.

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Anyone ever own one of these organ or tape-day simulator pedals? They look so fun but $200+ is a bit out of my price range.

>>69221854
I can think of the Fractured series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x7iZfVb0gU

>>69221910
I suppose he's asking for purpose of becoming a better guitarist

>>69222053
Boutique tier
I want the C9, but fuck I can't justify it with that price. Maybe used, after I save for a month or two.

>>69219394
It's a fender standard hum, just got an HSS pickguard and threw the shit together

>>69222053

>mfw I thought that dial on the right said "cuck"

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Soon I will have two ds-1's. The old one is up for sale but no biters yet.

>>69222530
what happens if you turn the cuck knob up to 10?

>>69222620
Sweden
All your music sounds like Islamic prayers no matter how hard you try to play rock.

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>>69218047

Incredibly comfy and fun to play.

>>69218087
>I am 22 now, is it too late for me to git gud?

It's never too late. Jack Black started playing guitar at 24 for example.

>>69222102
becoming a good guitarist's easy, just learn piles of technique and have good muscle memory. becoming a good musician's the hard part, as musicality is not about how technical you are, but rather how do you apply that technique.
A thing that a lot of people get wrong is that mindset that technicality is the opposite of musicality, and for a simple reason, it's far easier to be musical if you're playing at 60bpm as opposed to 160bpm

Oddly enough, I've got that mindset from a drum lesson. Look at the blast beat at 2:40 and then the blast beat at 3:10.
They're both based on the same drum pattern, but the latter has some more technique applied to it, and it sounds more organic and musical.

>>69218087
Doesn't matter how late you get into playing, if you actually keep trying and are rigurours with your excercises you will reach an acceptable level in 2-3 years.

>>69222991
aaaaaaaand I forgot the link
which isn't exactly so important otherwise if you're not a drummer, aside from the point I wanted to make
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEhdHLDg9dQ

>>69221854
Anyone pls

>>69218087
I think the biggest issue with learning guitar (or anything really) when you're not a teenager is the lack of free time. It's much easier to devote 3 hours a day to something when you're 15 years old and have the patience. But like most things in life, you get out what you put in. If you're willing to put in the time and effort it takes to git gud, there's no reason a 50 year old can't do it.

Anyone got any tips for how to make songs sound I guess more "classical", I'm not talking about playing on a classical guitar but just the general feel of it. I guess a simple example is something like the intro to Metallica - Fight Fire With Fire or their other song Call of Ktulu, particularly the bass parts

Do you guys have good tutorials for playing bass with a pick and how to mute strings so it doesn't sound muddied? I need the sound but I'm not sure if I use my right or left hand.

>>69223417
>when you're 15 years old and have the patience
I don't get that. I wish that I would've picked up an instrument sooner sometimes, but then I always remember 15-yo me. I'm pretty sure I would've just fucked around and not practiced enough back then. I certainly wasn't as patient as I am now. I also didn't know how to learn properly and didn't value that free time I had.

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>>69223934
I played Guitar Hero 3 when it came out, I was 10.
When I saw Slash I just thought "Hey that guy is cool enough to be in a videogame, I wanna be like him" and picked up the guitar.

It's things like those that make you want to succeed, if you're doing it only for the pussy you either forget about it or end up playing Wonderwall at parties; so yeah, picking up the guitar at 15 isn't a very good idea.

>Also look at that fucking guitar, it's colossal
>[spoiler]Fucking Activision[/spoiler]

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>>69218047
Keith Urban brand Les Paul copy. Frets are pretty bad but it looks nice. Still have it.

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>>69222615
What's the difference between the two?

>>69223922
Left hand muting on frets for a plink
Right hand muting on bridge for a thump

I just bought a blues jr today. I turned it on, played for 10 seconds, and then the power went and now it won't turn on. what do

is it a fuse issue?

>>69224048
Same story as you except I forgot about my guitar and didn't touch it until I got into black metal years later.
I heard Transylvanian Hunger and I was like "Hey I could play that" and picked it up

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anyone here built their own speaker cabinets? thinking about building one for a Tiny Terror

what are bomb speakers for a 2x12 or 4x12 stoner/desert rock that still lets out clear high frequencies/notes?

>>69224379
Best way to know is to actually open the thing and check the fuse, shouldn't be too hard. When you say the power went, are you talking about the amp or your mains?

>>69211125
I'm strongly considering one of the new artcore ibanez basses. Pic related.
I doubt anyone here has experience with them? The left one is considerably fatter but the bridge makes me really nervous. I think I'd prefer "standard" bridges where I can set intonation properly. They should sound identical, same pickups and everything.

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>>69224870
and I'm an idiot. forgot the picture.

>>69224048

I always had wanted to play an instrument, so I got Guitar Hero 2 and 3 when they came out and I thought they were hella gay and sold em both to buy an amp and instead learned how to play an old bass a cousin lent me

>>69224916
>I thought they were hella gay
Saying "hella" is gay

>>69224942

that's hella gay, anon

>>69224746
It was blown. I found another one around the house, turned it on, light came on and tubes lit up, then the new fuse blew

Any recomendations on some pedals that work well with vox amps?

>>69224706
Just get a used bass cab

>>69223192
Ah fuck you

>>69223192
Personally I would extend it instead of holding that E and fade out starting from there

>>69224955
Alright, as a general rule, don't put fuses with unknown specs into your amp because that may damage it even more. That said, your amp is already fucked anyways. My guess is that your mains got a power surge and that your amp was plugged into a non grounded socket. Your preamp section is probably dead.

>>69225141
fuck, youre right. the preamps are all blacked out on the bottom. all i did was plug it into the wall?

>>69225224
Take it back to the store. I don't know if the Fender warranty covers that kind of thing but that seems to be your only option at this point

>>69225224
just take it back and tell pretend you didnt touch it

what do you negroes think of this? kinda sus but i just came across it. they look neat but a lil sloppy.
https://reverb.com/item/3467079-coobeetsa-ccg-mk-9-2016-clear

>>69225612
Dents on that thing are going to be gross
I wouldn't cop it

>>69224965
fuzzface and ce-3 would be brettygood

>>69225406
well thanks anon

>>69225797
durn, i wasnt even sure to begin with tho. i just want a cool boutique guitar like josh elmore from cattle decap

>>69225612
I don't like it from an aesthetic standpoint

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SCREEEEEEEE

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>>69227023
well, at least rondo tries different things...

any anons play instruments?

https://discord.gg/VTa4jC4 join our discord and jam out!

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>>69227037
BWAAOOOWWWW

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>>69227037
They also make pretty good guitars tbqh

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>>69227080
>>69227105
these aren't bad actually, that sg looks interesting desu

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>tfw your amp is an exact clone of a fender champ but people think its shit because of the name

>>69227166
is it good

>tfw jazz is easily the hardest genre to play well on guitar

i mean classical is tough sometimes but it really is just rote dexterity and memorization. jazz requires a super high level understanding of chords and scales (progressions, harmony, substitutions, etc), incredible technique, and musical creativity (but spontaneously).

there really isn't a harder genre to be proficient in

>>69227298
Its fun. gain sounds like crap if you turn it up but the clean tone and using a overdrive pedal is great.

Has ext output, so i have it plugged into a 2x12

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Cheap bass get! Kramer Disciple (D-1)

So amazon had this bass on at steep discount last week (still does i see) and I bit. Paid $378 CAN, that'd be about $280 US. I guess this is the only bass Kramer currently makes?

Mahogany body, ebony fretboard, EMG MMCS active pickup, knockoff hipshot-esque bridge. Indonesia """quality""" factory setup which of course meant I had to do a complete top to bottom adjust to make it playable. Frets are sharp and I will have to file them at some point as well.

All that said, once I had setup taken care of and new strings on, I have been having a blast with it. Sounds awesome too, although that's 90% because I have a nice amp. I certainly wouldn't pay anywhere near list price for the D-1 but at the price I got it at I am very pleasantly surprised.

>>69227105
I dig the way they did the finish on the body a lot.

>>69224870
>>69224890
Do it, then let me know how it is.
I want a semi acoustic bass. Preferably 6 string, but that's not on market anywhere. The artcore 5 string would be my alternative.
I wouldn't go with that tacky pickguard myself.

>>69227934
They do have a 5-string model but the thing is a shortscale. Not so sure what kind of B string you'd use on that thing, .145?

>>69228047
>5 string shortscale bass
why

>>69228115
You could always tune it EADGC. But yeah. That would require a massive low B string. Either that or they don't give a fuck and just ship it out with a wobbly and terrible low B.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Squier-FSR-Classic-Vibe-50s-Stratocaster-Daphne-Blue-/282188129805?hash=item41b3b9260d:g:bS8AAOSwU-pXvAcT

this seem legit to you boys? i always find it hard to trust when theirs only a stock photo

>>69228299
Well, it's a shop that sells them new not a private seller. Is that really much cheaper than ordering from thomann?

>>69228160
>Either that or they don't give a fuck and just ship it out with a wobbly and terrible low B.

Yep, and lots of companies do on their low and sometimes even mid-tier 5-strings.

>>69216644
One of the best guitars I have ever played also it has a peizo acoustic pick up which sounds great

https://reverb.com/item/1408658-ernie-ball-music-man-majesty-arctic-dream?_aid=pla&pla=1&gclid=CLvGjM2BvtACFRc7gQodStwG9Q

>>69228047
>>69228160
>>69228355
>30"
Well, shit, scratch that then. I will still be picking up the ibanez prestige they're selling. Here's hoping.

>>69228355
What annoys me even more is that so many string sets come with a .120 or a .125 as a standard B string. To have the same tension as a .100 E string you need a .130 or .135 B string in most cases (going by Daddario nickel wounds here). That shit is so stupid.
>>69228474
I kinda want a 30'' or 32'' scale bass. They're super comfy to play. If you want a long scale hollowbody check out the epiphone Jack Cassady bass.

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I got your long scale right here pal

http://www.rondomusic.com/Brice_HXB2_405_37_NatB.html

>>69228724
>Sorry, but we have no case available for this model at this time

Yeeeah... 37" scale, no case. Lol you want to put it in a case, huh? Get out your tools and make one!

Awesome.

Found the meme machine

http://www.rondomusic.com/pendpro102528ebcpnatmahog.html

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>>69229050

>>69228724
Seems interesting for people who downtune their basses a lot. And 36'' isn't even that uncommon among certain boutique builders. Couldn't find a demo of this thing but kallium has their 40'' meme machine.

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Are we posting atrocities? Who is even buying these things?

http://www.rondomusic.com/product9043.html

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Hey /gg/, whats your opinion on this bass?

Epiphone Thunderbird Pro-IV

Anyone notice that they can't play well on higher tuning after playing on a lower one for a while?

Playing in standard feels weird after playing in D for months

wow /gg/ has been so fucking slow. what's going on?

>>69228327
200 AUD difference

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>>69227166
I stupidly noped on a very cheap Laney CUB10 a few months ago and now I'm interested in getting 5w babby tube amp.

Would you recommend this for low volume bedroom practicing or do I need to buy a $20 chink volume attenuator? My pedals are a tubescreamer and reverb.

>>69229301
You'll be fine. For clean, up to 15 watts is fine for bedroom usage. If you want to drive it, 5 or 10 is more than quiet enough

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>>69229153
>fanned meme frets on LP body
>angled humbuckers
fooking hell

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Is it possible to play Drop D on a short scale bass?

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>>69229153
wtf am i looking at? why is this being sold?

>>69229548
With some very thick strings, yes

Floyd rose original and Grover tuners under 1000 am I seeing this right ?
http://www.rondomusic.com/hawkereltblue.html

Is there a /gg/ approved beginners acoustic guitar brand/model?

Anything I should look for or avoid in an acoustic?

>>69229644
Should I get ?

>>69229910
Yamaha for a low priced acoustic. Things to look out for are "buzzing" frets, very high action, neck whip (curve of neck towards or away from the body), and if the top is warped (obviously raised or cracked).
Happy hunting!

how do you train yourself to sing and play at the same time?

my brain can't function doing two things at once it seems.

>>69229980
I have no idea about Agile but that does seem like it would be a decent deal. As with all cheap stuff, be prepared to do some extensive adjustments.

>>69230173
Turn your brain off

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>>69230223
but then i would die

>>69229980
As long as you dont shitpost about how it shits all over gibson/fender/anything else, sure,

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>>69227105
Thought that was plywood like the gibson zoot suit, but just a cap

>>69227166
I was thinking of getting one of these and putting the electronics in my FM65 cab.

I dont know how i would get the tweed chassis to fit in a blackface cab though.

>>69230190
Like what new pots switch and a new nut ?

Going through rondos bass section and just found out a band I like is using a $150 bass, I swear he was using some whacked out Fender.

Should I sell my 5 string and just go for a 4?

>>69229300
Where are you in Australia?

Most music stores will wiggle on price and will always go lower than internet prices.

Also, you're not risking it getting damaged in transit flying halfway round the world

Thinking of falling for the Aliexpress meme and ordering a Gilmour strat for $150 to see what comes in the box.

Rate my tone pls
https://clyp.it/bq4lvihk

>>69230611
I bought a Rondo SX strat copy and it was pretty decent. about the same quality as a squier vintage modified.

>>69230611
Do it. it's only $150.

Be aware that the photo they use is probably of a real Fender

>>69229910
Yamaha is bretty gud

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>>69230562
not that anon you're replying to but do they do price comparisons for international stores?

>>69229300
where are you m8?

If you're in Melbourne check out buy and sell groups in normiebook like Melbourne Muso Market/Australian Guitar Exchange, plenty of cheap Mexican Fenders, you can make offers to lower their asking prices. Some of them can post if interstate.

Still feel bad for not not pulling the trigger on a $450 white MIM tele last month, dude was willing to slash 20 dollarydoos off but had to pay for my car's rego instead

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>>69230611
>tfw want to cop a Strandberg Boden copy on Aliexpress

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$150 yay/nay

>>69230647
>>69230656
>>69230995
Alright, placed the order for the David Gilmour strat.

$150 and free shipping. We'll see how it goes.

>>69230947
My local guys have before and it was something they had to order in.

They've always looked after me, but just about everyone seems to get a "walked through the door discount" rather than ordering online.

Also, if you're not a complete dick, that helps.

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So I got a guitar recently and I got curious and looked at the wiring

For some reason on the volume pots the input pin is wired in parallel with ground by being soldered to the metal shell of the pots

It works and sounds nice but I don't understand this. What the fuck? Can any wiring aficionados explain why someone would do this? Why doesn't this cut signal entirely? What does it do?

>>69231245
ayyy gibe link pls

Are these chink copies compatible with Squier/Fender aftermarket parts?

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R8

>>69231360

tetanus/10

>see MIM standard tele in pawn shop for $499
>ask if they will accept trades
>offer my MIM blacktop strat with USA 60's RI pickups and electronics
>they say the tele is worth more because my strat isnt original

The fucking pickups are worth almost as much as what they are asking for the tele.

>>69231345
www.aliexpress.com/store/1796319

This is the store I bought it from. Never ordered from them before and I'm only going off some guy's word on youtube who ordered 3 of them from here and swears by them.

We'll see in 2 weeks when it hopefully arrives and isn't taken by US Customs.

>>69231360
I need to know what it sounds like

>>69231181
I have one, buy it. Consider alnico pups

>>69231289
No functional difference. I have no idea why someone would do this instead of doing what's in your diagram though, seems messy.

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>>69211125
R8 my dadrock solo pls
https://my.mixtape.moe/xgntzs.mp3
I used an epiphone les paul junior thu a line 6 spider III 15 going straight into my computer, so it sounds pretty bad.

>>69231673
The diagram WAS how I described it

Turns out I'm just dumb though, the input was not also connected to ground, it's just shielding from the wire itself that's connected to ground while the actual signal wire comes out a bit further and into the pin itself

tl;dr ignore everything I said it makes perfect sense

>>69231645
Tuners on it okay? Tbh I think id be into locking tuners if I replaced them, but desu I haven't heard of locking bass tuners

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>actually starting to get a hold of guitar so i can actually start playing songs i like

wtf i'm actually having fun now

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>>69231897
>tfw starting to experience this same feel

>>69229297
Roman's been around

>>69231994
I'm confused, does he just shitpost? and why is he called roman?

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who /busted callous/ here

>>69232058
you'll stop getting them after a while

>>69232058
Pretty much impossible for me nowadays.

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>>69232058
>haven't played guitar in almost a year
>picking it up again
>have to build callouses again

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>>69232058

>>69232047
Yes, he just shitposts and he's called roman because that was the actual name of a kid who got doxxed on /gg/ way back then.

>>69232058
been playing for 4 years and I still get them occasionally

but not as extreme in that pic

>>69232260
Holy shit, I haven't been on /gg/ in a while.

Isn't that roman kid the guy who was spamming that copypasta about /gg/ being shit with that tranny in the pic a full year ago? He's still here?

>>69232082
I've been playing for 9 years, they just get shredded sometimes. i play everyday

>>69232312
Yup, that's him; he's been gone for a few weeks now and it's been slower since then. I kinda like it desu

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What are the best affordable Martin 000 15M replicas?

>>69232312
He was, ive been out for a month, so he might be gone

>>69231839
Mine stays in tune well over a full set of hard playing. Only real thing I would point out with this bass goes for most basses, make sure to set it up and file the nut.

>>69232058
Pretty much constant with me after 5 years of daily play. I just ignore them, most people stop getting them though. I just have callouses under my callouses.

>>69232402
Sigma makes one

>>69232058
>>69232457
As a bass player I never really got these. Is it more of a guitar thing or do I just not play enough?

>>69230562
>>69230947
in semi rural QLD atm about 2 hour drive from toowoomba

>>69232556
Ppls fingers are different. I do find bass easier than guitar on the fingertips sometimes though. I've heard others say bass is harder on the fingers so I dunno. Just count yourself lucky or something.

>>69232556
I do get these on bass. Not when I put on flats though

>>69232762
>>69232809
I used to play flats but not for a long time now. I don't know, my fingertips slowly built light calluses and hardened slightly. But that's it, nothing major at all. I also play with a pretty light touch so that probably has something to do with it.

>>69224174

The keely mod changes a lot of the components with better quality ones, also this pedal has an "ultra" switch which is always good.
While people are collecting overpriced boutique meme pedals I will be amassing a collection of modded pedals, taking it to the next level.

>>69232642
I guess that does suck for music shops out there.

You could try calling some QLD stores to see what price they'd do, but otherwise you may be SOL.

As I said before the best way to haggle is in person

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>>69232312
>a full year ago
It wasn't that long ago, I made this image back in May

>>69224870

Ive seen them in store. I dont like the finish on them. It just looks tacky.

Never played it though

>>69233633
yeah its pretty shit when i was in perth i had like 2 guitar shops and a cashys in walking distance

>>69234203
The vintage finish? I'm not a huge fan of aging but from what I've seen in videos it seems tastefully done. Maybe it looks different in person, I don't know.

>>69211125
Is there a consensus on older made in Korea Squires?
1989 Squire Jazz Bass for sale locally, 200 seems pretty high.

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>>69215992
These