/gg/ Guitar and Bass General

pedal steels are cool but learning how to play them seems like a goddamn nightmare

>>69126898

They are among the hardest instruments to learn in the world, apparently.

All my rosewood fretboards smell like fish and shit, what do?

>>69126932
clean fretboards
wash hands before playing

>>69126932
wash your hands after fingering your vagina

>>69126925

this guy does a pretty good job of explaining the gist of it. It's the adjustments you do with the pedals that make it so crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrbSL92Kz1Y

>>69126925
i don't doubt it

ive watched some youtubes on how they work and it's just batshit. i don't know how they get used to the thinking process behind it, that seems like the hardest part, you press down a pedal and it changes the entire layout. and you can press two at the same time for different strings.... and there's also a lever system on the sides of your knees that you can also manipulate and that changes the layout even more

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Had some issues with my old shitty Vox VT15, now I'm not getting any sound. It isn't that the input jack pins are bent, but I'm sure the input board is the culprit. Where would I order a new one?

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Just got a Fender Strat Jimmie Vaughan Tex-Mex ($850 new) for $250 on craigslist. Pretty good condidtion too.

>>69127166
Glad you bought it. Hows the hot stack pickup?

>>69127166

Ooh! Nice get.

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>want to make hard rock tunes to lead into somber ones for EP
>move to new town and stop partying for several months
>left with a bunch of pity rock and bluesy desert rock


im finally getting the competence to structure a song but lost the motivations that made me want to learn in the first place. now its just job and bills.

how do i stop drinking

>>69127244
>how do i stop drinking
drink more
i'll drink to that

I don't know where else to ask so I'll give it a shot here.

I got a cheap MIDI keyboard for my birthday and I need something like Guitar Rig but for keyboard.

Also, is it even worth it or should I just get a plug-in for Pro Tools / FL Studio?

>>69127244
Think of me

>>69127254
I use absynth
it sounds good

>>69127254
Sunvox is a free standalone synth program. Has a learning curve tho.

>>69126969
what the fuck

>>69127311
yes, what the fuck indeed

it's hard to play, but the problem is it's not very versatile, it's more of a 'hole filler' type of instrument in the background

>>69127269
>>69127286
Thanks guys. Do you still use these for recording as well or do you just use a plugin in whichever DAW you use?

>>69127220
really nice, it works well on the bridge

>>69127244
write a song about that dogger in your picture. call it "seamus"

>>69127412
I use absynth as a plugin into my DAW.
Though desu I use my actual synth more often than absynth cause it's a bit tricky and I never bothered to master it. I just use it for polyphonic shit

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I've been thinking of picking up a short scale bass like a squier bronco and changing the bridge, tuners and nut to make it into a bass vi. Is this a good idea?

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Since I've never seen /gg/ talk about pedal steels before, this dude is easily one of my favorite guitarists/musicians.

Is it safe to buy guitars in the internet? Should I stick to getting them in stores? What are your experiences?

>>69127508
He's the only pedal steel player I know of, and that's only because of this performance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUZnlxuXaG4

>>69127551
not quite my tempo

the drummer is rushing

>>69127551
Now that you mention it, he's the only pedal steel player I know of too.

I've seen him live a few times and he's always killed it. At one point during one of those shows, they started letting anyone from the audience who wanted to (it was a fairly small venue) come up on stage and play lead guitar while the rest of them jammed out. Easily one of the coolest moments I've ever seen at a show before.

>>69127522
I've done it several times with nothing but success. If you can, play one in a store to make sure you like it, then watch eBay like a hawk and make your move on a deal.

Your mileage may vary, but it's worked well for me every time and I've saved a lot of money this way.

>>69127522
>>69127667
Oh, but also try to buy from a reputable source, of course. Stores seem more credible to me than some rando from Peoria or wherever.

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Local guitar shop has several early to mid 70s strats and teles for $1200-$1500. Also has 2 NOS 03 showmasters. Thinking about copping 75 strat, it looks cool and plays well, all original including pickups. Should I? Guitar looks like pic related with more wear on the fretboard.

>>69127522
It's totally safe as long as you're smart about it. Buy from reputable sellers on reputable sites. If something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Craigslist is also good for great deals on gear if you don't live in a small as town.

>>69127253
>>69127244

ayy cheers bros
sipping and playing some type o negative

>>69127711
I'm sippin and thinkin bout suicide rofl
Whatcha playin' anon

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>>69127730
nettie, christian woman, and we hate everyone on [spoiler]bass and vocals[/spoiler]

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Post Ideal Rig, R8 Others

i have this rig with a green rhino and swollen pickle now. if i werent so broke i might keep them but ill be damned if those earthquaker pedals aren't baller. hoping they sound decent together

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>>69128005
template

bonus round: post correct gain structure order for pedals

>>69128005
Your ideal rig is a cheap Orange and Gretsch?

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>>69128033
> post correct gain structure order for pedals
No thank you, I've done enough work.

>>69128115
ideal =/= your $20000 mega world tour rig

i only play for myself and with friends, why would i get anything bigger? considered a wah but i prefer bending and tone knob adjustment for any hippy effect

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If I have a guitar with black coloured pickup borders/casing (in a rectangle shape) around but not over the pickup, is there anyway I can recolour it from black to cream/white or something without messing up the sound or messing up in some way?

>>69128163
Google white pickup ring. Find one for either flat top or arch top guitars

>>69128160
You can get small good amps, and better guitars tho?

If you're sticking with cheap gear, why bother calling it ideal?

>>69128281
>small good amps
you mean like that one i posted?
>>69128281
>better guitars
what? you realize after you add in pedals the guitar is almost unrecognizable. without pedals, however, the tone of that gretsch is on point along with the neck. feels just right

are you arguing i buy more expensive things for the sake of them being more expensive? ideal doesn't have to be you having no money. living and being happy within your means might be foreign if your parents bought all your gear i guess

>>69128614
this is one defensive poorfag ladies and gents
I'm not the guy you're responding to, but those charts are generally meant for people to show their "endgame" gear. The shit they REALLY want. Don't be a cunt over semantics

>>69128614
>using pedals

how to get better at alternating picking

>>69128729
Pick slowly, then pick a bit faster. Rinse and repeat. Start from 80 bpm, add 2 bpm every time you feel completely in control.

>>69126864
Should I buy this crappy kit guitar for 20 bucks? I mean. It's 20 bucks.

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>>69128614
>Crush 35rt
>solid state
>shit speaker
>literally top end of Orange's budget series
>'good'
>pic

You're only vaguely right about the pedals/guitar bit as well. Someone with untrained ears you won't be able to the hear the difference between one guitar and the other with fuzz. If you can't tell the difference between a LP and a Strat through a Chorus though, you're literally retarded.

Also I never said buy expensive shit, I meant buy stuff that isn't literally trash.

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> just watched a man buy a shit guitar and mod it from Ali Express

I kind of like the second control plate. I think it gives it "character."

>>69128947
i can't imagine what part of my rig is actually trash. post your rig m8y lets see what makes these such shit

if it rhymes with harshall and Tes Paul kill yourself

>>69129005
Ah, I saw that video. Pretty neat, yeah.

>>69127486
I asked this question last year and it's a lot more complicated than you think. The neck is the trickiest part with not only the nut but the holes for the tuners

>>69129020
Fender Pawn Shop Mustang Bass and an Ampeg PF500/PF115HE is what I use mostly

Guitar rig is a Epiphone Casino and either a Vox AC4 or Marshall MOSFET 100 Reverb Twin

Have more guitars (actually 2 better guitars but I stopped playing metal much) and a few effects, but don't really use them because I don't have the space in my room. And I paid for all of it; it's called having a job, and playing for a long time, rather then blowing all your savings on bottom range junk and then paying for repairs every 6 months

Looking into getting a 15-25W bass ampm which one should I get?

>>69129161
>paying for repairs every 6 months
i literally set this guitar up 2 years ago and haven't done anything but a truss adjustment of my own

my friend who does play bars and clubs has a nice orange head and cab i can play on, and i recognize there's more body in the tone, but i can't even play my 35RT at half volume in my residential neighborhood of LA

maybe in many years when I have no other hobbies and solid living I can see a tube amp but there's really not justification I can think of for having one. it's opposite of ideal. they're larger and i won't even be able to enjoy what makes a tube amp better.

ideal is mobile and delivers the right tone.

i did see an orange tiny terror built into the amp the other day but it is still overkill.

and i have enough leftover cash to keep my cocaine and chubby asian hooker habit flowing

>>69129161
>rather then blowing all your savings on bottom range junk and then paying for repairs every 6 months
How much of an arm flailing retard do you have to be to repair a guitar every six month. Mine's garbage and I haven't paid for a single repair.

PLS someone answer this. I've been playing guitar for 6 months now and although I'm okay I'm having problems picking up on something I keep noticing people forming chords to play melodies but I have no idea why people do this what is the purpose of this how can I start picking up on it and incorporate it into my playing pls respond my boipucci is aching for an answer.

>>69129504
this is a bit of an odd post
like how to make chords or why epople use chords?

>>69129375
Shit gear needs setups and breaks more often because cheaper materials. Not every 6 months necessarily, but more often then something good. Most cheap gear is shit, most good gear costs more. Not always, because >Gibson, but generally.

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>>69129375

>>69129550
Like when I see people playing their fingers are set in specific positions to play notes not chords but like actually picking notes.

>>69129555
I disagree with this. Shit i have a cheap "hondo" fender knockoff that still works from 10+ years ago. Based on post trail you played metal at some point. I think ill stick to his idea you were just being an arm flailing retard

>>69129577
scales or arpeggios?

>>69129577
>>69129504
I think you might be talking about arpeggios.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtNC1Mfkfwg

I'm on a budget of about $120, what's the best distortion pedal I can get out of that price range?

>>69129683
Personally I really like the DS-2 it's pretty nice.

>>69129366
>but i can't even play my 35RT at half volume in my residential neighborhood of LA
Exactly; it's 35 watts, which is not really enough to play with drummer, but too much to play in a bedroom. You can get ~5watt tube combos that generally have attenuators to lower them down to 1 or 2 watts. Probably costs the same amount as well. Would fit perfectly in a room (still not really enough to play with a drummer) and is equally portable and likely sounds alot better. Specifically the AC4 which is ok, but moddable into pretty decent amp.

Either way, if that's you idea of 'ideal' you lack ambition.

>>69129583
>arm flailing retard
>anecdotal evidence
Yeah, nah your a dumb cunt. And I didn't say all cheap gear is shit, I said most of it is.

Also some Hondo's were MIJ, I think made in the same factory as Charvel/Jacksons (so have fun with your offcut spiky guitar lad). MIJ is generally a pretty good indicator of quality regardless of price.

>>69129709
I'll have a looksies at it, cheers guv.

>>69129714
Wtf i use that 35rt with drummers now wtf are you on about

You can try to justify buying all that shit, you def needed it :^)

>>69129773
A full band as well? What do you play?

>>69129555
>Shit gear needs setups
setups are free if you can do them, which takes one afternoon to learn and about €10 worth of tools
>breaks more often
the only part that broke on mine was the jack output, which I resoldered after buying an iron.
I also broke the nut once, not because it was shit but because the guitar fell.
I've also moved it countless times in an unpadded gigbag, and it fell a few times.
I've spent a grand total of €35 on spare parts/tools, less than a setup at a guitar store. There's no way you should need repairs every six months playing normally.

>>69129714
>35 watts, which is not really enough to play with drummer
wew, my amp must be magical because I can play with a drummer and a bassist only using 20w.

>>69129828
Typically 2-3. Most of what i play is rhythm and lead, rarely separate into two guitars. Green Rhino is plenty of boost for me since my only real competition at mid to high freq. is whoever is drumming

>>69129867
I was working off the idea that /gg/ has no idea how to intonate a guitar, let alone use a soldering iron. Or buy a tuner, because these threads are full of poorfags.

Also 20 watts tube or SS? If you can get an audible clean tone, out of a SS amp with 2 guitars, bass and drummer, you might actually have a magical amp.

>>69129912
>Also 20 watts tube or SS? If you can get an audible clean tone, out of a SS amp with 2 guitars, bass and drummer, you might actually have a magical amp.
Are you genuinely retarded? Not every drummer plays like they hate their drum kit, not every practice space is enormous. I can work with a 5W SS amp on bass, and yes I can play with a drummer.

>>69129683
Boss HM-2

>>69129912
>If you can get an audible clean tone, out of a SS amp with 2 guitars, bass and drummer, you might actually have a magical amp.
I actually do. SS poweramps don't have to deal with any breakup, so I can stay as clean as I want.

>>69126864
How stupid is it to put a bass bridge and a new nut (for the 4 bass strings) on a guitar? For a super short scale bass essentially. Can a guitar neck/truss rod even deal with the higher tension?

>>69130013
No, it can't.
What are you even trying to achieve..? Long scale too much for your infant hands?

>>69129938
>5W SS amp on bass
Bullshit

>>69129976
What amp is it? Most cheap SS's I've used start to sound weird when you turn them up with low gain.

inb4 MOSFET masterrace

>>69130013
>>69130046
I just checked, tension isn't much higher than guitar strings (19lbs per string) at that scale length and with less strings the overall tension would be lower.
I just have a cheap guitar and a bass bridge lying around.

>>69130013
it's extremely fucking stupid
the intonation's never going to be quite right, it'll be muddy as hell in the low register too, and you'll need a stupidly thick string gauge in order to not play a pack of wet spaghettis
basically if you want to waste a lot of time and money putting together a pile of shit, go for it.

>>69130061
>Bullshit
It's a bit louder than my 3/4 UB, going through a 410 cab. Last time I checked UBs, you know, worked.

>>69130073
Why would the intonation be an issue? Yeah, it's very low tension for bass strings but I have some flat wounds lying around that require ridiculously high tension.

>>69130061
orange micro dark through a 1x12
the key is to not jam with raging gorillas that turn everything to the maximum

>>69130109
>the key is to not jam with raging gorillas that turn everything to the maximum

I'm in a shoegaze band, so that's not happening

>>69130102
Because it's a guitar neck, not a bass neck.
Talking just about tension is nonsense, frequency is defined by scale lenght, tension and linear mass, not just tension. Since a guitar's 25.5" instead of 34" as opposed to a bass.
If you just reduce the scale lenght, which is your case if you put bass strings on a guitar, you're making the frequency go up as the scale lenght is inversely proportional. So in order to compensate for that, you have to lower the tension. Which with bass strings, will end up too low to give a proper note, meaning you'll have to get really thick strings. And I'm not talking about .100 kind of thick, I'm taking >.150 kind of thick.
This means the string will require much more space for relief too, making the action wonky and nigh unplayable in the upper register.

>>69130131
>shoegaze
>clean
the gay noise part of shoegaze is much more interesting than the gay jangle part though

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Rate mixing pls https://a.clyp.it/0yaz3mky.mp3

What SS amp should I get? No digital boogers.

am pro musicmaker
pls rate
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ebdqRn15GF

>>69130176
I agree, but I don't write the songs.
And I can override the guitars when they're playing clean.

Also the Micro Dark isn't really SS lad

>>69130187
For cleans, JC120 or similar, for anything else, something hybrid probably. Or MOSFET.

>>69130187
Quilter MicroPro

>>69127254
FL studio has some quality synths packaged if you jave the producer edition.

Its pianos suck, for piano i either use lounge lizard(electric) kontakts enotional piano library(acoustic)

It has some decent drum samples, but theyre best suited for hip hop and electronic music, although they do have live drums. For drum machines I use stock sounds, for drum kits I use kontakts Steven Slate Drums library or BFD3.

LA scoring strings and broadway big band are noce kontakt libraries too.

My favorite synths that come with fl are poizone, morphine(fl 12), harmor, toxic biohazard, sytrus, and sakura, though sakuras adjustments are kind of obtuse and i still havent got the hang of it.

You can run an isntance of fl studio in pro tools(i have yet to do it because i dont know if my compiter can handle it), and kontakt, bfd, and lounge lizard have rtas plugins. Whenever i can I always sequence in fl, export midi, and import in pro tools, and then load the plugin over the midi track if im recording and finallizing a project, easier to make adjustments on the fly.

>>69130185
sounds kinda messy
but I can't advise on it, ask /prod/ for some tips

>>69130193
that legit sounds like the one time me and my friends tried to record something on the fly bbut none of us were any good. We just got drunk/high and made noise.
Very fun thing to do.

>>69130201
>Also the Micro Dark isn't really SS lad
Well it's an SS poweramp, that's the part that's going to matter the most in getting volume.

>>69130185
The solo is spot on bro

>>69128947
Oh look, the "solid state is crap" meme

>>69130230
Didnt know about that thread, thanks

>>69130258
Budget level Solid State is.

If you follow the post trail, I said I had a MOSFET bass and guitar amp, and then I told someone to buy a JC120.

>>69130276
Upon further inspection I retract my snide remark and I apologize m8.

>>69130230
I wish I knew anyone to play with
making noises didnt stop being fun yet though

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>>69130290
all good lad, heres a music-related anime

Budget Musician reporting in.
>Squier CV Strat
>Fender VibroChamp XD
>Joyo Octave
>Caline Echo Delay
>Joyo Phaser

>>69127064
Change the damned tube dumbass. It's a 12AX7 just in case you were wondering.

>>69127508
Susan Alcorn is my favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfIXaEum_ZM

>>69127166
Strat Jimmie Vaughan?
Lol is it like a poor man's SRV signature Strat?

The day I find out how Adrian Belew did that guitar solo on Born Under Punches is the day I will die feeling content.

>>69131425
Studio fuckery, the technology didn't exist to do that live in 1978. You could get close now with a synth pedal and stutter effect.

>>69126864
I'm a bedroom bassist who has never played with other people before, I met an older drummer who isn't actively playing anymore but we were getting along really well and he said he'd like to jam with me in the near future.
How do I do that? How do I jam with a drummer? I told him that I'm basically a complete beginner but he just laughed it off and said that it'll be fine. But I don't want to be a nuisance or a disappointment. How do I prepare properly? What should I even play?

>>69129504
You're talking about arpeggiating chords, I think. Maybe instead of playing each note of an arpeggio as a separate finger movement, the player is holding down a chord shape and letting notes ring into each other a bit more, or just holding their hand closely to the frets so they can be ready to play any of the notes within a given chord shape.

https://youtu.be/Do57YqwVEAw

>>69131845
Just jam.

>>69131913
H-how?

>>69131845
>How do I jam with a drummer?
play in time, that's the only rule, you're free to do whatever the fuck you want outside that

>>69131979
So, should I just prepare a few simple grooves to play and work on my time until we meet?

>>69132044
yes

>>69128134
Is that a revstar?

Can someone give me info on revstars, I hear nothing about them

>>69128134
>Doom Bloom
Good taste in fuzz anon. I have the regular Algal Bloom and it's awesome.

Do epiphone make the best non-gibson les pauls price-wise?

>>69132658
Tokai do

>>69132658
No, but they make better Les Paul's then Gibson

>>69129375
>Mine's garbage and I haven't paid for a single repair.

No shit Mr Bedroom Warrior.

>>69132658
This is a bit of a silly question. Name your budget and I'm sure someone could tell you what the best choice or your best options in that price range were.

>>69130230
Is it less messy now? https://a.clyp.it/avubjqho.mp3

>>69132658
>>69132718
my bad, about US$600

I'm looking to buy a tube amp second hand. SO far I've seen these offers
(price is in € as I am a eurofag but it is more less the same as $):

Fender Blues Junior III - 400€
Peavey Classic 30 - 350€
Laney VC15 - 350€
Vox AC15 C1 - 420€

So I'd still have to go and try them but, asuming they're all in good playing order and condition, which one do you guys think is the best value?

Also that gives you a rough idea of the sound and price range i'm going for. Are there any other brands worth checking out?

thanks

>>69133100
I'd go for the peavey personally

>>69133100
Both the fender and vox looks to be retail prices.

>>69126864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ITFjL0TZc

>>69133272
hmm at least where i'm from they go for about 600€

>>69128134
Where you from bro?

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When I took the pickguard off of my guitar I noticed that the only thing connecting it to the body (other than the screws, of course) was a blue wire that was seemingly soldered into the wood near the bridge. While I was working on the electronics it came loose as the solder was pretty old.
Did I just disconnect the grounding wire? How much of a problem is this?

how do I sound like ty segall

>>69127508
thats not a pedal steel, thats lap steel

pedal have arms that yank on the strings to tune them up various intervals

lap is just like a normal guitar

>>69133424
Your guitar is going to buzz a lot now. Just re-solder the wire on

>>69133435
buy a cheap strat and fuzz pedal and shoot up a bunch of speedballs

>>69133448
(pedal steel is a million times harder to learn to play)

lap steel is pretty easy, you can just tune it to C6 and pretty much every note you hit makes it sound like hawaiian music or old country stuff

>>69127789
Pete Steele is my goal body t b h

So I just got a new Floyd Rose Bridge, and it works great. I keep seeing people mention locking bolts, do I really need one? My guitar sounds just fine without one, what's the purpose.

>>69132805
Try some Gretsch and Hasgstrom single cuts first. 600 should also net you a decent Epiphone, tho I advise to buy a 'vintage' one (2000 and further back, the further the better); the new ones I've played so far are all pretty shit for the money.

>>69133323
Ouch. Where do you live? I see them usually for around €300-350 second hand

>>69133648
yeah, I mean retail price. Second hand fender blues juniors go for 400 more or less

>>69127691
oh mama. I say go for it if you have the money

>>69133843
>>69133648
* I live in Spain btw

>>69130276
Can you post your MOSFET amps?

>>69129357
The new Fender Rumbles are fine. If you spend a little more you can get the 40w which has the better preamp and overdrive channel.

>>69131917
Print out a 12 bar blues progression or something, play those notes along with drummer. Drummer will give you tips as it sounds like he's experienced. This isn't an audition, just have fun.

>>69135252
I'm going for so low wattage because I won't be able to crank it very loudly anyway

>>69132805
no

research japanese made gibson copies

epiphones are...ok. I don't think they are that great these days, the made in Korea ones in the 90s were awesome, the made in China ones are..meh. I've had 2 and they were kinda crappy.

Best bet would be to get an Edwards Les Paul copy shipped from japan, this will be around $650-850. They are guitars were the woodwork is done in China and then fretwork and electronics and setup is done at the ESP factory in Japan. I've had 2 and they were better guitars than any of the 4 Gibsons I've owned.

There are many Japanese Gibson copies that were made starting in the late 70s that are (somewhat incorrectly) called lawsuit guitars, and many of these are much better than Gibsons, but theres a lot you have to learn before you buy one so do your research. They have gotten kind of expensive these days but if you do your research and are patient you can score a good one $700-900

>>69135417
Also the small Hartke combos are pretty neat. Very bright sound that you may or may not care for. Hartke uses a bit of metal in their speaker design that causes that tone. For me, Hartke speakers sound most interesting when played with flatwound strings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpPDFofXqsM

I don't usually like blooz stuff but this guy is pretty fuckin amazing

I guess its not bad music but theres so much of it that is done 'wrong' like joe bonamassa

this guys like a younger ry cooder with even better technique

>>69135394
Thanks for the help. I'll prepare something simple like that, yeah.

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>>69132149
I can't really say much about Revstars except I like them and I'd much rather have a higher-end Revstar than a low-end Gibson.

>>69132240
Thanks. I was wary about spending that much on a fuzz, but it's great.

>>69133351
California.

>>69135513
I had a Hartke A70 and returned it, the thing had really bad hiss without even having an instrument plugged in. Thomann checked it and told me that it wasn't defect, that seems to be "normal".
It was completely useless at lower volumes due to that constant hiss.

>>69135565
is this the cab company that had stupid hipster hype and they torpedoed their own business by being stupid immature edgelords?

>>69129912
>I was working off the idea that /gg/ has no idea how to intonate a guitar, let alone use a soldering iron

Well then you'd be wrong and in typical anonymous 4chan fashion underestimating everyone else whilst overestimating yourself. I learned to solder and wire everything myself years ago and I'm not the only one who lurks these threads with a DIY mentality. It's necessary if you're into modding and want your guitars to play well and a natural progression for any guitarist that sticks with the hobby long enough, Mr Special Snowflake.

>>69135651
Especially with electric guitars/basses there's no excuse, almost everything is really really simple and can be done at home.
I hate the mentality among classical musicians that they take their instrument to the luthier whenever something's wrong, but in many cases they have no choice (seriously though, learn how to prop up your bridge at least if you play UB/cello/violi )

Can a converted garage make a good drum room?
The celing is flat and I'd rather make it sort of octangular with wood panelling but that would probably be too much work and im not sure if I could take that down when its already built.
Would it ruin the properties of the room to put in a window where the garage door used to be?
The room is not perfectly sized or custom designed but simply converting the garage would be a hell of a lot cheaper than building a purpose built room on its own, though maybe in the future I might do that if I got lots of money.

>>69135513

Cool. I'll see if I can find any locally to listen to.

>>69135586
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.

>>69133604
Hasgstrom looks nice. Does anyone own a D2H or heard anything good/bad about them?

I don't know much about gretsch either

Is PRS any good outside of hurr hurr blooze lawyers, I've $500 to spend and they look like a decent option.

Looking into getting babby's first delay pedal. How is the Ibanez DE7 compared to a Boss DD-6? I'm looking mainly for noise, but I do plan on using it for some doomy stuff as well

>>69135976
Yeah, if you don't mind the aesthetics they're great

>>69135976
they are very good guitars but forever have either blooz lawyer style or numetal style

shame really

>>69136022

I have an ibanez, got it because I heard it was the best one available at that time. I only use the analog echo setting though.

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>tfw identifying intervals by ear without much trouble

>>69136055
which nu metal guys played PRS? never struck me as the guitar brand for that genre

>>69136022
TC Electronic Flashback Delay has a lot of options
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUubLP5hVi4

>>69136116
I heard the analog echo is the only side worth using. I watched one video and it seemed like it had a lot of uses.

>>69136190
Would it be the best option in that price range?

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STEP UP YOUR MEME GAME LADS THERE'S A NEW CHAMPION IN TOWN

>>69136235
>best option in that price range
You can sometimes find one used on ebay or reverb for about $100

>>69135931

I have a Viking. I like it alot but their Resinator fingerboard is so-so. I prefer real rosewood.

>>69136118
Isn't that standard for people who actually train their ears ?
Also that chink better have a dick or i'm gonna be disappointed

>>69136181
mike ackerfeldt from Opeth plays on a PRS but he's progressive death metal/progressive metal

>>69136259
Thanks Mountain Dew.

>>69136181
every numetal fag in the 90s played PRS

creed
mudvayne
puddle of mudd
seven mary three

>>69135565
What is it you like about them that makes you prefer them to low-end gibsons? your interest is making me interested, also what models are 'high-end' when it comes to revstars?

>>69135628
yes

>>69136556
can you explain what happened with them?

>>69133100
I played a classic 50 a couple times, pretty nice. I own a blues jr tweed, its "cleans" are pretty nice, i dont like it distorted, slight overdrive is pretty nice too.

Blues jrs are a noisy amp, i really dont like it for that reason. But i like the sound. I would pick up the peavey though

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>>69136531
The higher-end Revstars are nice cosmetically (binding/frets), have better/more choice in hardware and pick-ups. Also, the cheapest one doesn't have the tone cut circuit that the other ones do.

As for why I like them more than low-end Gibsons, I just like the feel/sound of them more. I think a lot of people have noticed Gibson quality control slipping recently. I can't say much about that, but I just did not care for the Faded/Studio stuff I tried versus the Yamaha stuff.

What are some less known short scale guitars? I know of Les Pauls, Jaguars and other common ones. I'm trying to find a more comfortable guitar for my dad, because he can't move his fingers properly after an injury. Preferably something light too.

>>69135845
Make some of those boxes with insulation in them and put them in various corners.

If ceiling reverberation is an issue put some eye hooks in the joists and a sheet of plywood, hang the plywood by wire. I would also cover the plywood in an old comforter. Do half inch thick so you dont put a lot of strain on your joists. Youll have to put a rug down over then entire room too, probably.

This is a non permanent solution and will not likely work as well as a permanent solution.

>>69136786
check rondomusic.com. I have a buddy who mainly used one of their short scale guitars

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>>69136814
Get out of here kurt.

>>69136825
Not even close

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>>69136814
Please don't.

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>>69136293
That's really gay, dude

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>>69136259
>guitarist takes 1 hour to tune his instrument

>>69136814
I live in Finland, so it has to be something that is available here or at least somewhere in Europe.

>>69136887
That's pretty hot
source?

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>>69136805

I dont think my family would be too happy about that kind of jury-rigged stuff. What I'm really going for is a very live room and it seems that in my experience you need most importantly and oddly shaped celing, obtuse angled corners and as much wood as possible, but also a room that could be used for different purposes in the future such as sub leasing or whatever, so it has to be kinda livable and not too insane.

>>69136786

I'd check Thomann. They are the biggest instrument sales company in Europe, Germany and they have extremely good customer service.

I know they have a Swedish sales rep, not sure about finland.

>>69137022
Already checked and they don't have anything out of ordinary. Just trying to find more options. And they have Finnish customer service too.

What do you do when the G string is so fucking sharp at the second fret? Would it be a nut problem?

>>69137130
I can't help you, but what kind of guitar is it?

>>69137130
At the second fret, that'd most likely be the nut, yes.

>>69137198
>>69137200
It's an epiphone LP, i'm kind of afraid of it being the nut since i don't have a clue how to file the slots and i also don't have the tool to do such thing

>>69137262
They're cheap plastic nuts, best thing you can do is remove it for a tusq graphite nut.

Hope this thread is still active because I've really been wanting to ask if anyone knows some cool steel guitar music or music that has generous amounts of steel guitar in it. Here's something I thought was interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8TIw7LUYVs
He's using a vocoder and a steel guitar I think but yeah it sounds really cool

>>69137276
i hope i can get it for a lefty around the local stores

>>69137355
A nut is a nut, you'll have to file it in or have someone do it for you.

>>69137375
well i though it had to be a little different since i regularly see them with slots already made i supposed the manufacturer made them with right guitars in mind

>>69137429
Third party manufacturers don't file them in because every guitar is slightly different.

>>69137007
JK黑脚少女写真
https://mega.nz/#!eQBgCIaI!WZV0JKHwKTAMpYWFNBuvc_HEoQtEEFnHSgsI6rQN070

>>69130185
garageband.mp4

Sounds like a bunch of looped instruments still. Levels are ok, maybe bring up some of the instruments idk

>>69137017
It would only be jury rigged if you jury rigged it, suspended panels are commonly used in audotoriums.

When i say wire i mean braided wire rope, about an 8th of an inch thick, with a latching hook at either end, like a dogs leash. Eyelet lag screws for the joist, eyelet bolts with washers and locking nuts or nuts with loctite on the panel. If you do 8 you could probably sleep on it.

Unless you have a large room it's not going to sound good enough to make into a live room. Youre going to spend a lot of money making a live room sound good.

>>69137447
alright, do i also have to get a set of nut files or is there any alternative?

>>69137742
I'd recommend the right tools for the job, yes. You're filing 6 slots with different width after all.

>>69137742
have you measured it yet? you could try left handed nut in amazon.

>>69137883
i don't like buying stuff on the internet, i live on the south of Mexico and i have to wait for months for shit to arrive, sadly the only competent luthier in the city dissapeared and i'm pretty much forced to do things myself but sadly finding the tools is worse than hell
#blog

>>69136605
i think every numetal and stoner doomfag wanted one of these and they got real uppity and started being complete little pissy 12 year olds on social media and they made some nasty comment about jim marshall the day he died, like making fun of him cuz he died or something

a lot of people that bought them said it looked like a D+ high school shop class project on the inside of them

>>69137696

I've been looking into the technical details and it seems that if I was to just cut the celing down to convert it into a vaulted celing the walls would start to bow outwards and collapse so thats a no go. This kind of tray celing you are suggesting is not really done here in europe so I will just leave it as it is.
I can put in a suspended wooden floor or just throw some insulation down and put concrete over it, wood might make it far too live?
I guess the room will have to stay largely as a rectangular box which wont be great for getting a neutral sound but it will be cheap and effective, more of a practice/jam room than a home studio setup. It will be extremely "live" in a bad way and as you say its a waste to spend huge money trying to correct it when its fundamentally flawed.
The room I use now for practicing is a converted attic, the room is about 5 X 10 meters with an almost circular celing but the drums ae so loud up there guitarists cant cut it with even a full cab setup. The room seems to intensify the loudness to the point that it can be heard from a mile away and having to bring up an ultra stack for a jam is too much for the neighbours.

Anybody here practiced for hours on end with no improvement?

>>69138571
Dont force it. Set short goals and use a metronome

>>69138571
Your brain needs time to process all of the practice and new information. You'll wake up tomorrow, try it again and it'll suddenly work.

>>69131379
1.5/10

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>>69136373

>>69126864
What is the cheapest way to get a bass body? Ebay or something?
And where do I get a super cheap decent neck?
Ordering from Europe if it makes a difference. I'm feeling like building a parts bass.

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>>69136259
Does it come with Dorito shaped picks?

>>69136259
I'd pluck it.

>>69136786
I have a Peavey T-15 that I got for $275 in decent condition. 23.75in scale I think. It plays great and the knockoff p90's it has sound just as good as the real deal. Good luck finding one to play in person though. Also it's kinda heavy.

>>69139118

all parts necks are good and not too expensive

bodies? just get the shittiest squier affinity body you can find

I'm planing on building a semi-hollow body guitar from scratch fully handmade, but don't know shit about making necks. Does anyone know any tips to not fuck it up?

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Any opinion on this? I can't make heads or tails of it's price. Is it a good price/value?

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recently bought a 7 string bass because i'd alwyas been curious about them

>>69133883
Might pick up the strat and the 73 tele and sell the tele

>>69139646
If real. Do you ever play it?

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>>69139715
yeah i use it as my main gigging bass as seen in this picture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZX1bRhCnpA

So is this guy a legit retard or what?

>>69139646
Neat

>>69139646
>>69139765
Is that the Harley Benton?

>>69139906
yeah it is i was gonna buy the ibanez but this was about £500 cheaper and i wasn't willing to spend that kind of money on something i wasn't sure i'd like

thoughts on the Epiphone Casino

>>69139937
Cool, do you like it? How are the hardware and the pickups? Did you look at the wiring? I've seen some pretty horrible shit from the super cheap Harley Benton stuff, but I heard these "deluxe" models are actually alright. Comparable to mid tier Ibanez stuff.

>>69139785
Yep.

Comparing guitars through a Line 6 with all the gain is hilarious in its own way, though

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>>69130185
Cool where can I find more of your stuff, I heard your other song and I'm starting to dig what you're doing. Keep it up.

>>69139990
the pickups on these are a bit thin sounding for my personal taste but i can't really swap them because it's such a niche market really and the wiring inside it is all good. overall thought for £315 it's proper good and plays nicer than most of my other basses

>>69140076
Interesting. Thanks for the info. I'll have to check them out in person when I'm around the area again, maybe I can recommend them (the series, not that specific model) to some students.

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Just made an impulse purchase of a Steinberger spirit xt-2 bass for $140. It's not in bad shape, finish isn't great. How fucked am I? (pic for reference, but not actual guitar)

>>69137654
dammit, i can't make these drums sound organic
the instruments are all one whole take

>>69140065
thanks man, i'm very glad for that
theyre not mine though, its kiss' covers
got a couple songs but they dont have lyrics https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria

>>69139977
They are really good guitars for the price, I've had one for a while and enjoy it.

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>>69139785
>random open string noise when he's talking
>15 dollar strap on his expensive guitars

>>69140546

oh nevermind I'm an idiot I just realized his real Gibson doesn't have a strap

my bad

>>69140667
Well he puts some piece of shit strap on it.

>>69139646
I really want to get one for shits and giggles
How's the fretless 5 by the way ?

>>69139906
on the same subject, they're putting out a series of cheap fanned fret guitar and basses for december, which might be interesting.

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>tfw no qt Rickenbacker bass

God I wish I wasn't poor and lived in a third world fuckin' country.

>>69129161
>Ampeg PF
nice.jpg

How the hell is telling a kid to play chords considered a guitar lesson

>>69141478
Crawl before you walk.

Are there any good nylon string guitars for less than 800 dollars?

>>69141239
They're not unattainable, you can get one for 1500 or even below.

>>69142099

My country's currency is worthless atm, and it's only going to get worse.

But yeah I might be moving soon so I won't lose hope, you're right anon!

Anyone here had ulnar nerve problems? Any tips? How has it affected your playing?

I used to practice 4 to 5 hours a day, now I do just lame ass two bursts of 45 minutes and can't go farther. Waiting on a surgery, I guess.

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Pls no bully I'm pretty new; how would I go about playing things like pic related? (Tabs with notes on non-adjacent strings)

>>69142439
finger

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I have one U left in the rack, what should I put in there?

>>69142809
Compressor or power conditioner

>>69141618
I think I got mine for around 150-200 dollars, it's been a few years though so I don't remember.

>>69142809
do you use a rack preamp into the cab instead of a head?

>>69143163
no that's a swr bass 350 head. super clean but the MFD pickups really push the preamp well, I've found

Is the Chapman Ghost Fret a meme?

>>69142809
compressor. also those LDS cabs are awesome

>>69142809
One of those shitty tuners that takes up a whole space for no reason....oh wait

>>69145304
half the time those are strobe tuners and not crappy. but yeah, those guys that use them live are kinda over doing it

>>69142439
Finger or chicken picking.

Rumor is brendan kelly wrote that song, i saw them on that tour in a venue that housed 1000 people, i couldnt hear the band over the crowd at some points, ridiculous.

>>69145304
>>69145347
it just happened to be a cheaper and simpler alternative to getting a pedal tuner at the time and clip tuners were not yet un-fucked
honestly if there was a rack that stuck out as being worth it (like a 1176) i'd change it out in a second and just get a clip

however, some have argued that my control has gotten really good (mostly fingerstyle, my picking technique is garbage and only usable for the handful of painstakingly fast songs I play for fear of blistering) and they say I don't need a compressor; it might still be a good idea if only for testing out crushing shit, i have a presonus bluebox somewhere that i'll try out again, I'd just held off because its a half-rack w/out a proper mount

beyond that, a conditioner would only be good for protecting my amp which is already an old piece of shit that gets shorted out just trying to make the DI work sometimes

honestly considering ditching the whole rack and going for one of those tiny class-D's

>>69140526
do you use it as your main guitar?

>>69139937
Which Ibanez bass were you looking at? I'm currently perusing extended range basses and came across their prestige. Was that it?

>>69145347
Form with a higher price over function with a lower price is crappy to me. I mean, i see where they come from, there was a point where it looked like racks would replace pedal boards, and when most pedal boards incorporated a tuner pedal it was the logical step. It was a joke though, whatever works best for whoever is the best thing to do, im not sitting judging or condemning people for doing something I dont do.

To me they just scream, "look ma, i know how to stay in tune."

>>69136786
yamaha pacifica

playing on just 2 strings now. it's amazing how much variety you can get from just different intervals on 2 strings. i didn't appreciate it the first time i tried to go through advancing guitarist because i just did solo'ing on 2 strings. i get more appreciation for it now that i'm doing mini 2 note chords

>>69146218
>mini 2 note chords
They're called double stops lad

>>69146244
i'm not your lad, mate

>>69146244
You mean the good ol Iron Maiden Prowler bridge

>>69146324
I'm not your mate, friendo

Anyone has a .pdf or a .png of a printable action gauge? All the ones i find on google are crap.
Thanks.

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>>69140469 just reminded me I needed to post my $100 headless find. 80s Hohner G2T, the cheap version they licensed cause they were still making the composite ones at the time.

Suggestions what I should do with it?

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Happy new amp day to me! Picked up a Bassbreaker 7 watt for 279 at GC and this thing fucking screams. Loving the fuck out of it. Any new gear out there for my niggas?

>>69146983
Stick it up your bum

>>69146782
Why do you need a gauge for that?

>>69146244
not on a guitar. dyad would be correct though

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>>69147026
not so new but I like to suck my own cock

>>69146983
looks like it needs a bridge

>>69147066
do you have it or not?

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>>69147026
Nice. I've really liked what I heard from the Bassbreakers. And I think low-wattage tube heads are pretty nifty.

Picked a couple of things up in the last month, a Doom Bloom Fuzz and a Ditto Looper. Also found a box of mints to put picks in.

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>>69146983
Won an eBay auction of this earlier today. $150 shipped here by next weekend.

>>69147342
>>69146983

meant to reply to this one >>69147026

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So over the past week I'm finally understanding what scales and the circle of fifths is all about, but I don't understand what it means to play chords in a key of D, C, G, whatever. Nor do I understand how to meld scales and chords together. A push in the right direction, please? Does the circle of fifths also tell me what notes come after each other well in terms of scales?

>>69147518
The fifth refers to a note on the scale (the fifth one obviously) and chords can be constructed with such notes (base, third and fifth for major chords by example) and a key is more or less the same thing as a scale

How do I get that crisp attack on notes like Kevin Parker did in the solo of Endors Toi?

>>69147864
ask him you fucking stupid nigger
or maybe post a fucking link that shows what you fucking want instead of expecting us to genuinely spoonfeed tghe shit out of you you useless fucking pile of trash fucking kill yourself

>>69147518
>The fifth refers to a note on the scale (the fifth one obviously)
I'm not sure what this means but I'll look into it.
>and chords can be constructed with such notes
What like roots?
>(base, third and fifth)
Dunno what these mean either.
>and a key is more or less the same thing as a scale
So there's C scales, D scales, etc?

>>69147896
Do you happen to be a bass player?

>>69147927
no not yet i'm just drunk and agitated

>>69147919
It all will come together if you keep reading through, trying to learn all the concepts even if just the basic ones can be a little overwhelming at first, just be patient and constant with it.

>>69127244
WHAT A NICE DOGGO

>>69147864
Probably a compressor, I don't remember it that well, and i'm watching racecars so can't check now

>>69127244
I'm still drinking thanks man

how do I get better
more specifically I can play a bunch of chords and make them sound good together, but I've never gotten past that really, just strumming and picking chords or random notes

>>69148152
Learn time signatures play every day. Rhythm,scales, and Arpeggios. Learn a couple of neat tricks too and you're good harmonics are pretty important too good for tuning your guitar if you're good enough to hear the soundwaves.

>>69148222
Well I know all about time signatures and rhythm because of drums, where do I even get started with scales and arpeggios? Random ones on chordbook?

>>69148295
It's really easy just look up scales on a site like justinguitar

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BANJO MOTHERFUCKERS

DO YOU PLAY IT?

Any body jam with other musicians here? How do you hear yourself over the drummer without a huge amp?

>>69148358
>start playing banjo
>fuck it up because I messed with the coordinator rods too much

Back to guitar, I guess.

>>69148363
30 watt amp is plenty

a 30 watt 1x12 combo is not a huge amp

>>69148394
i love to play it but there dont seem to be a lot of good resources out there for learning... might just keep it around for fun and start learning piano

im not satisfied by just guitar, idk why

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>>69148412
The banjo definitely has a unique sound that can't be matched with guitar.

As far as learning resources go, I only attempted clawhammer, so I went with Dan Levenson's and Ken Perlman's books. They worked pretty well until I broke my banjo.

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Picked this up 2day plays surprisingly well

>>69136769
The color of the far-right guitar is so beautiful.

>>69150036
>The color of the far-right guitar is so beautiful.
Not white enough la

>>69150122
Obvious, but good, take a {you), anon.

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>>69148979

Mad jelly. I searched far and wide for the bursted one.

Pic related is mine.
Plays really well and the pickups sound awesome.