/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

>>69105435
I should get into synths...

fake ass impulse response shit

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:3

Reminder to pray to Steve Vai before you go to bed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTXGswyAls

>>69105509
are squier basses any good?

>>69105567
no

I have about a 500 dollar budget for a new bass. I've been looking at random Matsumoku made stuff but I'm not sure how they compare to something modern in the same price range. Any suggestions?

I was wondering /gg/, what are some good picks? I feel like I've only been using shit ones

h2memorize fretboard?

>>69105618
theyre ok

>>69105618
I had one, it was pretty junky. I got a gsr200 Ibanez from my gf 13 years ago, she spent like $200 on it. A whole lot better than the squier. Still have it, still in really good shape. Still have her, too

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>>69105690

how are the cheaper ibanez guitars?

>>69105690

Dunlop Jazz III max grip

>>69105567

t. 14-year-old who learned how to tap the first four seconds of eruption

>>69105824

my favorites

>>69105851
I hear the GIOs are crap. But>>69105795, the bass i got it fine. Other than that one example, you can get similar guitars from other manufacturers for the same price.. like a Jackson dinky is like the same price as an GRG.. you'll just have to try them and go with preference. If you can't, read reviews and shit online

>>69105913
alright ill avoid the gios
its seems like an impossible task to find something decent for 300$ with at least a humbucker and a single coil configuration

>>69105618
dealing with my p bass now. Played it for years with strings raised and no intonation. Now that I tried setting it up with the strings lowered you can't even play past the mid frets without the string just buzzing. No notes, just a buzz where a note should have been. I have no idea if it's a truss rod issue at this point, and I'm not even really arsed enough to care since I have a different bass to play.

>>69105677
The Ibanez SR500 is awesome but it's $600, might be worth saving up for

>>69105618
It depends on the line:

>Bullets can be diamonds in the rough
>Affinity is to be avoided at all costs unless you're learning or heavy modification/customization
>Standard is alright, can be a crap shoot for quality
>Vintage Modified are very good quality, comparable to lower quality Fenders pretty evenly matched
>Classic Vibe see above

80's Squier II basses are sometimes nice too, which is what the black bass is (MIK neck, MII body) but mostly for specific types. Look for the ones made in Korea, the necks are superb.

>>69106002
It's your truss rod. The neck is probably bowed to hell and back because of the high action.

>>69105945
HSH Yamaha Pacifica.

>>69106201
the 112v? how hard would it be to remove the tremolo?

>>69106134
Surprisingly no bend in the neck. How it came out of the box 9 years ago, there it had remained. It was fun until I learned what I was doing.

>>69106283
Pop out the arm and block off the trem if that's an issue. Won't find much better beginner guitar in that price range.

>>69106093

What about the Silver Series? Acording to the serial number I have a '92 MIJ Silver Series P-Bass.

>>69106320
alright, thanks. that was my only problem with it and if its a relatively simple procedure i see no reason why not

>>69106360
I'd just remove the arm to be honest. No need to block off.

>>69106053
It's pretty but it doesn't quite suit my style. I'm more interested in what vintage gear would be a safe investment. I've been looking at peavey t40s and 70s/80s ibanez stuff.

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I like my 50s classic vibe Strat but I really really want to trade it for the cv Telecaster.

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It seems like these threads are usually mostly fendee, but I was wondering if anybody had any thoughts on the carvin/kiesel custom shop. I just got a bass and it plays better than anything I have ever owned, including my old fender american jazz. Thoughts?

>>69106970
Fender*
Also pic related is my new bass; swamp ash body, bolt on maple neck with birdseye fretboard, radiuses single coil passive pickups with 3 band active eq, push pull knob for eq and passive.

>>69105471
Do it man. I have a microbrute and it's a ton of fun.

>>69105690
Jazz III. Doesn't matter what size or material, though I prefer the carbon fiber max grip. I need to try out some others, like ultex and tortex

How are Yamaha basses qualitywise? I'm looking into getting a TRBX504

>>69106970
The Carvin customized stuff is great. The problem that most people have is resell value. If some one wanted to throw down money for a used carvin bass/guitar, they would just have one made to their liking. Otherwise they are great instruments.

What'll give me more volume, 2 vintage Jensen 12"s or 2 Eminence Legendary 15"s?


obv 15s will move more air than 12s, but will the Eminences be able to come close to efficiency of the Jensens? Tryna blow heads off at basement shows etc

>>69107290
Yea the ones that go for 1500 new are like 500 on craigslist, which i like cause i can buy more. Im really enjoying them right now, also have a 5 string fretless semihollow.

>>69105690
Gator Grip .71s, V-Pick Screamers, and Tortex .73s


I rotate between these 3 based on how I'm feeling at any given point. Listed them in order of preference; the v picks are stupid expensive but they last for eons if you don't lose em.

>>69106810
I've got the CV 60's strat.
Very nice guitar. Have to double check the head stock all the time lol

>>69107334
no you dont

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>>69107334
The CVs are class instruments. My 50s CV neck is lacquered which I didn't think I would like but it's pretty nice.

>>69107539
>>69107334
the frets are so small though

hard to bend well with

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>>69107486
I chose it over the US strats in the store.
It was one of those guitars that exceeds its name.
>>69107539
If the lacquer irks at all I've heard you can just (carefully) sand it. Don't take my word for it though, I'm just a simple guitarist

>>69107633
I fucking hate dave grohl and his stupid dave grohl face

>>69107738
ikr?

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>>69105567

I still can't believe this guy made that video. He really humbled the fuck out in the last ten years, but I'll always miss those articles where he'd say that he was actually a messenger from God who worked through him via music. It's like i'm watching Highlander when I see this shit. Can you imagine being the camera man for this fucking shit? How do you find a proper angle when his entire guitar is a mirror and he's facing the sun?

Anyways, picture of my new purchase to go along with this shit.
Also, has anyone tried any new 2015/2016 Charvel guitars lately? Why the fuck are their necks and frets so covered in lacquer? They seem built to be literal mantle pieces instead of functional guitars.

Might sound like a dumb question but can you run hotter signals like synths through guitar pedals? Does it depend on the kind of effect or specific pedal?

>>69108357
I run synths through fuzz pedals all the time.

>>69106970
Screw fender, at the price point of an mia standard bass you can get hand built customized instruments from people who actually put in effort and pay attention to detail. Hell, I bet these instruments are even better than the "custom shop" fender stuff. And yes, "custom shop" because it's a fucking joke.

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Is it safe to plug in a guitar meant for the japanese market into an amp running on US voltages?
If not, is there a safe way to do it?

>>69108837
If it's got a regular 1/4" output jack then you should be fine.

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>>69108877
Alright. Thanks anon

>>69108837
Put condoms on your jacks, you might get a virus in your guitar if you don't.

>>69108837
no it explod

>>69105567
>not praying to Fripp

Aalrighty.. I'm guessing quite a few of us have heard this problem before.

So my Classic Vibe Tele makes a nice little hum on the neck and middle position, not the on the bridge. Noise goes away when I touch the strings or any of the metallic parts. Quick check under the hood didn't really give me clues other than the semi messy soldering job the Squier guys have left me with. Cavities shielded in the factory with paint, so's the pickup cover (aluminum tape).

This is a simple grounding issue right? Classic single coil hum should be constant and apparent on both pickups right?

>>69110120
It's a single coil issue.

Wiring is probably shoddy as well.

>>69108837
The average Japanese plug is way smaller. You'll seriously stretch out the jack on that guitar with an American or European plug. Some say they like it, but it's always a risk.

What is a good strat copy for under 400 USD

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>>69110309
>The average Japanese plug is way smaller

>>69110336
Used mexi strat

>>69110336
>>69110353
or Japanese, probably

Inb4 MIJ inflation

>>69110336
Just go into a music shop and play all the cheapie strats on the wall, one of them probably has the strat magic you require.

>>69110353
In Australia so mexistrats are kind of rare on the used market.

>>69110381
What about ibanez or tokai, are they good?

>>69110458
I'm a shut-in but okay.

Would a good thing to do be buying a copy and putting good pickups in it?

>>69110486
Get a fucking Yamaha Pacifica like everyone else if you're dead set on a strat clone that doesn't suck cocks.

>>69110486
Buying new pickups is pretty costly considering an EQ pedal does the same thing, only you don't have to drop a wad of cash to turn the mids up

>>69110494
okay, thank you, they seem decent

>>69110519
>Buying new pickups is pretty costly considering an EQ pedal does the same thing

Hah, no.

>>69110535
Ok then mister.
Tell me what is different about them?

>>69110561
Pickups define the frequency response at the very start of the signal chain.

An EQ pedal won't fix mud, it can only boost or cut what you feed it.

>>69110535
It is basically halfway there

>>69110486
I'm Australian too hence I said, MIJ because they're pretty cheap. But I didn't realise 400USD is only 530 AUD. I reckon save up a bit and buy a used Tokai/Greco/Fender MIJ. They're around 800AUD and are great. Best sounding Strat I've ever played was a MIJ Fender. Old Ibanez's are good, but most of them are Roadstars which aren't technically Strat's, but they're basically the same.

You should generally never buy new honestly, but most of my gear was bought new, so what do I know?

>>69110612
I've fixed mud before.
But assuming the guy goes into a store he should easily be able to find a twanger without scummy pickups anyway

>>69105795
Do her.

>>69110628
There are a few things I've seen used but I'm scared to buy them because of my lack of knowledge, I could end up with something horrible. My price is a bit higher than that, probably around $900 AUD.

Who has a real synthaxe here though ?

>>69105690
I use Dunlop Tortex exclusively. I like the black Tortex, they feel harder and stiffer even with the same corresponding size in the coloured variations. I use .73mm, .60mm and .73mm "The Wedge" sometimes too. I like lighter gauges which isn't all that common for "shred" guitar players but contrary to the popular belief that more rigid and more pointy picks cross strings easily I find the opposite to be true, the lighter the plectrum and thinner the less effort I exert crossing the string. I practice with heavy gauge picks though and when I go back to lighter picks I feel really airy.

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>>69105435
>synthaxe edition
>he's holding a guitar
best choice anyway, that's what he's the best at

>>69105690
Jazz III. It does everything
ultex 2.0mm for me, thickness depends on taste

>>69105745
I just memorize that 5th and 17th are the fourth of the open string, 7th the fifth and 2th the fifth, and 12/24 the octave. Then I "build" the rest of the fretboard. It's a little bit more convulted but that way you can play in any tuning without getting it wrong.

>>69105851
Don't GIO. The standard line is fine, past 500$ you've got some great guitars. The pickups aren't as bad as people make them out to be.

>>69105913
You heard right. They're complete ass, play like shit and are built to suit that.
The truss rod in mine's probably fucked now too.

>>69107960
>Also, has anyone tried any new 2015/2016 Charvel guitars lately? Why the fuck are their necks and frets so covered in lacquer? They seem built to be literal mantle pieces instead of functional guitars.
I'm guessing FMIC decisions.

also rate my "new gear". decided I needed some more groove and better rhythm

>>69107296
anyone?

>>69110710
Check Facebook, there's a few groups based on selling used gear.

If you live in Melbourne, a few guys ship alot of stuff from Japan, and they have pretty good reputations for prices and quality. Pete Ahern is one, I dunno the other guys name, but www.ebay.com.au/usr/string-switch-noise is his ebay shop. He also has gumtree. There's also a few stores in Carlton that are full of GOAT Fenders.

Also never buy online. Like, seriously never. 1/10 chance you get a guitar that works, doesn't need a setup and feels right. Probably 1/20. Always try before you buy.

>>69106329
To be honest I'm not familiar with the Silver series, never even heard of them actually. So I really don't have and idea on the quality, but if you like it and it plays well and sounds good to you then that's awesome. I'll have to check one out.

>>69106676
There's a deal on a T-40 on Reverb right now. They usually go for ~$500 but this one is less than $400 it has some minor cosmetic issues, but it doesn't affect the playability.

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Earthquaker Devices Documentary Movie is out.

Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M3-ut_U3MA

>>69110336
MiM Fender

Or you can get one of those Agiles on rondomusic.

>>69111215
Cuckfest 2016

>>69111244
?
The video has nothing to do with cuckoldry or any other sexual activity

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>>69111253
Maybe.

Squier Vintage Modified HSS or Epiphone SG G400 pro
which one is better? Both are available for 250€

>>69111215
Eq gets pretty badly outclassed by the other stuff in their pricerange. Mr Black, Walrus, Keeley and a few others are all much better atm.

>>69111215
I'm never buying anything from these faggots

>>69105618
I have a Squire Jaguar bass, got it for $200. Pretty nice, not the best but still

>>69111926
>Ever buying a pedal that isn't by boss

>>69111215
this isn't even remotely interesting

>>69111606
Eh, I guess it depends on what you want. I don't think anyone else makes anything like the Rainbow Machine, and no one makes something like the Acapulco Gold.

>>69111215
I like Knobs. His thing with Chase Bliss was way better though, and Joel Koerte is way cooler than these fags.

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>>69112184

>buying boss
>fucking ever

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to the guy that posted this pedalboard on the previous thread
holy shit!
currently GASing the pitch fork, but I was afraid my bandmates would kick me in the teeth if I ever use one
also that russian BM...

>>69112660

Some of them are pretty good, an SD1 works amazingly well with my AC15. A lot of their stuff is total shit though

Anyone here ordered a guitar online that they have never played before? My local guitar store is shit but I don't want to buy something and then regret it

Why do all of fender's new releases suck?
The jm's don't have rhythm circuits
The mustangs are hardtails
The jaguars are HH

I need a gigging guitar. I want to keep it under 1,000 if possible. I play a squier JM now, and would not like anything hardtail. Id also really like a rhythm circuit if possible.
The Classic player series aren't very good from my experience, the tails are moves too close to the bridge

>>69113816
Several times. If there's anything wrong with it you just return it.

>>69112660
My ODB-3 is fine. I like it.

>>69113888
The problem is that I live in bum fuck nowhere and returning it would cost a lot of money

>tfw ill never do tech death sweeps like jon lavasseur
feels bad man

>>69113904
Not as much as being stuck with an instrument you don't like

>>69113886
Fender is short for "Fender musical instrument company" now, not "Leo Fender" anymore

>>69113970
Except that's free

>>69113909
I'm two years and a half in and I can pull them off.
Jon Levasseur's kinda sloppy in his solos and sweeps though

>>69113986
I'm aware, but I don't see a purpose in dumbing down an instrument

>>69113886
This.

If only the mustangs had vibrato, it would've been pretty good

>>69114013
reducing manufacturing costs

>>69114011
post clyp

>>69114032
That makes sense, thanks anon

>>69114011
ill be a year in this xmas. right now im working on a couple cattle decap songs, which is simple. im glad i was into black metal because otherwise my tremolo picking would not be as good as it is.

>>69113816
ordered an Orange O Bass that should arrive within a week. Never played one, I just gave in to GAS
Asked in the previous thread about it and one anon told me it felt cheap but the tone was ok, so let's hope it doesn't come out to be too crappy
Anyways I would never spend more than 400$ for a bass if I don't get to play it before.

>>69114042
sure, right after I eat and change my strings

>>69114062
I've started tackling sweep picking about 1 year and 6 months I think.
The hardest part is getting the technique right, there's a few subtelities that a lot of lessons don't approach

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What would be a good upgrade from here?
My main axe is a Fender Stratocaster Mexican Standard.
I play alot of different genres, so what is a good amp that suits most genres?

>>69114100
>I've started tackling sweep picking about 1 year and 6 months I think.
Ah that's it. I never truly tried to practice my sweep picking, just mess with it every so often. Been playing 3.5 years now. I'm the guy that asked for the clyp btw

>>69113886
you could check some G&L high end models
the low line isn't that great, but I got the chance to try some asat arount 1000 and I really enjoyed the tone and the playability
definitely worth a try

What's the wackiest yet most interesting pedal board you've seen?

>>69114125
you forgot to tell us how much money you had

>>69114125
well, I've had a roland cube many years ago
I don't wanna be that guy but generally these transistor amps are nowhere as good as all tube combos or head/cab combinations, but since you're playing through one, I believe one of your concerns is space saving

how about pedals? Do you generally use the effects of the amp, or are you planning to build your own pedalboard?

also this
>>69114199

>>69114199
About 500-600 bucks

>>69111970
Short scale special? I literally got one yesterday.

>>69114237
if you're looking for some clean tone, you should check something like a fender hot rod, a blues junior, possibly used
you'll lose all the effects of the roland, but trust me, not that great of a loss
you could buy a few pedals, focusing on the effects you need the most

you could also check out some ampeg guitar combos, they're super underrated, vintage stuff
they crunch just a little sooner than the fender

If you plan on staying in the transistor world but add some serious quality, you should check out the vox valvetronix, it's a hybrid combo, with tons of effects and a tube in the pre. Plenty of volume. My guitarist started with one as a bedroom amp. He's now playing through an Orange OR15 and a silvertone vintage amp. Planning on buying a fender vintage super reverb

>>69114417
Thanks man, will check out

>>69114669
no problem anon

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Has anyone had any experience with the new Bandits? What do you think of them?

>>69105567
Let me ruin this song for you forever.

https://youtu.be/T2t-1CPJXYo

>>69111215

I hope the local pedal makers get this big some day so I can get a job with them instead of sucking every single dick in this office.

>>69115766
So its true. "Good artists borrow, great artists steal."

>>69105690
Jazz III, Fender Heavy, and Dunlop Jazztone 208s.

>>69113886

If you have 1000 bucks just get the Classic Lacquer Jazzmaster, only difference from a real Jazzmaster is the fretboard radius.

>The jm's don't have rhythm circuits

Nobody uses that shit, the switches are always unusable on those, either finicky as shit or hard as fuck. The new American whatever series they're making has a much better Gibson-style switch in the same position

>>69113993
No, you paid for the broken instrument

>>69115766

What's the problem? Some TV-show borrowed Vais song.

>>69105690
Snarling Doggos

>>69114264
Nah mine's full scale. How do you like yours?

>>69114125
>>69114417
What this guy said, but also Roland Jazz Chorus have really nice cleans. Good reverb, trem, and chorus as well. They are big boy amps and you could probably hold on to it for a while and it would do most of what you need it to.

>>69116000
It's comfortable. I'm afraid it might have neck dive though. I haven't checked yet.

I want to buy a PRS, but don't know what model is best for my $500-$600 budget. I'd like an Opeth/Steven Wilson sound.

>>69115943
ok

Since I didn't get a response earlier. looking into getting a Yamaha TRBX bass.

Are yamaha decent quality wise or are they horrible?

>binding starting to age
>gold hardware is still shiny as fuck
age you cunt, also

>gold hardware
>ever

fretless bass is a meme

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newfag to bass here, need some spoonfeeding

should i learn scales, if so which ones?
tab or sheet?
is learning slap necessary for punk/metal?
what techniques other than slap bass exist (does anything else even exist?)
how long should i practice before considering joining a band?
what are auditions (from craigslist) like?
is 5 string a joke?
is fretless a joke?

sorry for the wall of text

>>69116634

Shoo shoo lame ass troll.

>>69110519
>Buying new pickups is pretty costly considering an EQ pedal does the same thing

Most retarded thing I've read on here so far, jesus fuck guys.

>>69116715
[spoiler]i-im not trolling man[/spoiler]

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>>69116785

Go gibson or go home

>>69116634
That peghead is the worst thing about that entire bass, and that entire bass is terrible.

The scales are independent of tab and sheet, but if you can read sheet the scales themselves make more sense. Alternatively, you can learn "shapes" and tablature and you'll probably be fine.

Slap stopped being a big deal in punk and metal in the early 90s, when the Faith No More sound fell out of fashion.

There's some debate about floating-thumb versus anchoring, other techniques include sweeping, tapping, and legato. There's plenty about bass guitar to learn.

Practice until you're confident in your ability to play music you like. Practice to a metronome, because odds are good that you'll be responsible for keeping time just as much as the drummer is.

Auditions depend on who and what you're auditioning for. If you're looking at punk and metal bands on Craigslist, they're probably just looking to see if you have your own equipment, can arrive on time, can play along with them, and aren't an asshole. It's generally informal.

5 string basses are not a joke, and neither are fretless basses. They're different tools for different jobs, with 5 strings being more common.

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>>69116538

you cant see it too good in this pic but the gold bridge on my Jazzmaster is stained as fuck

wtf gold hardware

>>69114042
>>69114062
alright, I may have stretched it saying I can be as relentless and wild as levasseur, but here's some kinda sloppy, dumb sweeps anyway because too few people post clyps
https://clyp.it/ah23teuy

>>69116634
>should i learn scales, if so which ones?
obviously so. start with the 7 modes of the major scale
>tab or sheet?
both, knowing sheet helps communicate with other non fretted instruments
>is learning slap necessary for punk/metal?
for punk no
for metal neither, but you can pop out of the mix and give some nice effects with slap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF-PCe3--6I
>what techniques other than slap bass exist (does anything else even exist?)
tapping, fingerstyle
>how long should i practice before considering joining a band?
as long as you know what's holding the root and can keep the tempo, you can play in half of every local band
>is 5 string a joke?
if you only play the low B string, it's useless
if you move around and have good technique, it's great
>is fretless a joke?
ask double bass players

>>69116793
>Slap stopped being a big deal in punk and metal in the early 90s, when the Faith No More sound fell out of fashion.
I'd say that's debatable

hey, did anyone use an Ashdown Toneman Deep for guitar?
On this matter, did anyone try to hook up a bass cab with a guitar rig in general?

>>69116793
that helps a lot, thanks anon. in what situations is 5 string or fretless right for?

>>69116634
>should i learn scales, if so which ones?
every scale, chord shapes and arpeggios too so you can impress all your guitar buddies with your bass skills
>tab or sheet?
honestly unless you're planning on playing with brass instruments, pianists or jazz ensembles you can stick to tabs, but it won't ever hurt you to learn to read
>is learning slap necessary for punk/metal?
if you like Mudvayne and Faith No More, sure. Don't do the Korn thing though.
>what techniques other than slap bass exist (does anything else even exist?)
two handed tapping is pretty popular in some metal genres
>how long should i practice before considering joining a band?
till you feel confident enough and can play through whole songs without fucking up often
>what are auditions (from craigslist) like?
depends on the guys, most bands are happy just to get someone who can actually play bass
>is 5 string a joke?
>is fretless a joke?
both have their uses

>>69116914
5 strings are for hitting lower notes without downtuning, and for paying 5 dollars more a pack for strings.

Fretless has a fairly unique sound, and you can play in-between "correct" pitches for weird outside noises and non-western stuff.

>>69110800

Gio/10

Don't care about the pups in it, it's a fucking Gio.

Anyone here had a positive experience with Bias amp shit or whatever on the PC? A ton of YouTube channels seem to shill the shit out of it, and I'm looking for a good PC amp sim. Guitar rig is cool but sounds a little off, and the amplitube shit never worked for me.

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Hey guitbros,

I'm looking to buy a new amp. I kinda wanna spend between 200 and 400$.
I want to use it for some gigs at some reasonable sized venues so I recon at least 40-100W should do the trick.

I want a versatile 80's/90's alt rock kind of sound (sonic youth, dinosaur jr, slint, nirvana, jesus lizard, big black) so I was looking into Fender amps. The thing is, I don't want to fuck around with screens and complicated layouts that the new modeling amps have. Just a couple of channels with your basic knobs.

What do you rec? It need not be Fender.
(I have a Epi Les Paul standard with coil-splitable Seymour Duncans if that helps)

Also, are pic relateds memes or actually worth getting? I've seen them go cheap second hand and it's the kind of thing I need.

>>69117339
budget?

>>69117339

Is a small 15W tube amp out of the question? You can mic up amps you know and $200-400 is not a lot of money.

>>69117421
>I kinda wanna spend between 200 and 400$
lrn2read

>>69117421
holy shit, I feel retarded now

>>69117432
this

>>69117421
>>69117432
id be willing to spend around 300$ maybe up to 400$ if its really worth it.

I could just get a smaller amp and mic it but I want to be able to hear myself well on stage and be able to use it without a microphone if a needed to.

>>69117508

Have you ever tried 15W tube amps? I really doubt you'd need any more Oomph on stage.

>face too twink-ish for metal or punk
>hair too long and edgy for pop
>emo bands are dead
wat do?

>>69117528
I could go and try one at a shop I guess. Could you recommend any specific models? There are so many different amps I don't even know where to start.

>>69117580
wear a hooded robe, then your appearance doesn't matter and you can be as kvlt as you want

are Bugeras any good?

>>69117656
They probably won't burn your house down, despite the memes, and whether or not you like the sound is a matter of personal preference.

>have chav/wigger friend who enjoys rapping
>thought id learn some hip hop bass lines so we could play/sing together
>every single song is LITERALLY just 5-6 notes played over and over again
why do normalfags always praise hip hop and rap bass, anyone know any actually good songs that i might be missing?

>>69117656
you get what you're paying for. Not a killer value IMHO
but they definitely get the job done

>>69117580
>>face too twink-ish for metal or punk
grow a beard
or play djent

>>69117874
>grow a beard
literally nu male tier solution

>>69115766
fuckin auto erotic asphyxiation, what a lame way to go.

>>69117902
only if you have a puny, overly trimmed beard
grow a filthy looking one and start a sludge band

>>69116416
custom 24 se

>>69117972
>mfw I have a big filthy beard and I'm trying to make a sludgegrind band

>>69117902
>have had a beard since my teens
>"hahaha anon u neckbeard xd"
>"hahaha anon u hipster xd"
>"hahaha anon u nu-male xd"

can't I just have a fucking beard

>>69107738
>>69107826
jealous

>>69118231
Bruh I know that feel
my beard is super unkempt and all I want to do is play sludge

>>69117580
Metalcore is for you (no sarcasm)

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I want to buy an used bass, just for learn, is this a deal breaker?

>>69117749
maybe some hilltop hoods stuff or cypress hill

anyone feel like the only reason theres so many bass players on /mu/ is because we are contrarians who dont want to do whats popular?

>>69118381
at least you can grow a beard, i can only get the pre-puberty middle eastern kid look

>>69118489

is what a deal breaker?

>>69118461
isnt this just nu-metal?

>>69118489
not sure whats wrong with the bass but that fucking glitter covered electric in the background looks atrocious

>>69118492
cyprus hill - insane in the membrane:

G
D 7 5 7 7
A 5
E

YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ANON

>>69117580
let's fuck

>>69118550
No. I'm sorry but I can't tell if you're trolling.

>>69118588
this

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I want dis

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>>69118541
I mean, does it looks like it is in bad shape, here is another pic, should I buy this one or get a cheaper but new bass, sorry I'm new to buying instruments.

>>69118489
looks like a minor cosmetic flaw

so, not really, no. especially not at that price range. I'd worry more about the thing being solidly put together and staying in tune.

>>69118703
sure but let me warn you, i moan like a nu-male from a pop punk band after finding out people are still racist in (current year)

>>69118721

How much is he asking for.

Those basses are pretty solid.

how does /mu/ practice their bass playing speed?

>>69118762
>>69118815
Thanks for your answer, almost half the retail price

>>69116634
Minor pentatonic, major pentatonic, blues, minor, major. Eventually youll benefit from learning modes, the scale played around a different note. A minor and c major are the same scale, they both give a different feeling. That comes later, crawl before you walk.

You dont need to learn sheet music, i never use it anymore. If you want to learn classical or jazz at some point you should learn it. I feel being able to play by ear is more valuable.

Slap is very uncommon in punk and metal. If you like the way it sounds learn it.

Common ways to play aside from slap are fingers, picks, touchstyle and tapping. Pick takes away a lot of tonal and dynamic range, but sometimes you just need it(a lot of punk and metal) for the sharp attack or speed, which can mostly be reached with fingers but it does give a different sound. Touch style and tapping are advanced techniques, dont bother yet until you learn what notes to play across the fret board.

I joined my first band after playing 3 months, it was a shitty punk band but still, it helped me advance. If you can play in time you can play with people.

Be able to improvise, learn quickly, know some popular songs in the genre youre going into, but most importantly dont be a tool. People dont like working with assholes.

I play strictly 5 strings. Unless im playing punk or classic rock loke acdc where low notes dont add anything, then ill reach for a 4 string p bass. The low b doesnt exist for you to ride it, some situations call for it, but most dont. Slapping is harder for me on a 5 string though, id probably get use to it but i dont really like it. 4 notes might not seem like a lot, but it really is once you learn how to incoporate them.

Fretless is useless unless you play a style that it works well with, then its a better option than a fretted bass for a lot of players. Rock, no. Jazz, yes. It has a more mellow sound, and you can go slightly sharp or flat with ease.

>>69118831
I imagine with a metronome

>>69118895
This, and playing with a drum machine so you can practice grooves as well.

>>69118831
Go through all note values from whole to 16th including triplets. Slow it down it you need, youll advance more at a lower speed where you can play perfectly than a higher speed where you play sloppily.

Dont practice speed building and playing on time to records. Im sure a lot of people here listen to records produced with very small budgets. A lot of drummers cant keep perfect time, it comes through a lot more on projects that dont have an engineer qunatizing everything and making it perfect. A lot of times you wont be able to tell because these bands are used to playing with each other so it doesnt sound lopsided or offbeat. You could learn to play perfectly in time to pne drummers quirks, which wont benefit you when you play with another drummer who has different quirks.

>>69116904
It can sound alright/good with some setups (e.g a markbass for playing jazz) but most of the time, it'll sound like shit, especially on a 15". toneman is no exception

>>69117339
So just to repeat my question.

Has anyone tried the fender frontman 212r's? are they any good?

>>69118877

So 200$-ish?

It looks fine, should do you well, just play it before you buy and make sure it aint got no neck problems.

>take up bass
>start feeling angrier and more cynical
wew

>>69119222
I haven't, but if you're looking for a giggable amp under $400 and willing to look used, maybe check out the Peavey Classic or Windsor.

>>69119308
thanks i'll check them out. What about the Peavy Bandit?

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how meme is my new guitar?

>>69119336
I hear good things about the Bandit, but it's a solid-state, unlike the Classic or Windsor. I'm not saying the Bandit wouldn't work, but if you can afford a tube amp, I would honestly go for that.

>>69119345
>Les paul
>Red knobs on a root beer finish
>Purfling, ever

meme level: 92%
this is a meme

>>69119304

gotta play some happy tunes

play some Yes and shit dog

>>69119345
Not really a meme since nobody plays those.

>>69119308
I like the peavey classic. I dont normally like peaveys, pretty versatile amp.

>>69119345
Too many colors going on.

>creme
>white
>chrome
>abalone
>brown
>black

If you made all the hardware chrome with EITHER white or black for the little things you cant find chrome it would look pretty sweet.

Whats the scale? I wouldnt mond having a 24 fret les paul to play on but i never got used to the gibson scale.

>>69118831
I open up a song on GP/TG then I loop it with incremental increases in tempo for each loop until I reach 100% (or more).

>>69119742
Not him but it is Gibson scale.

>>69119125

>A lot of drummers cant keep perfect time, it comes through a lot more on projects that dont have an engineer qunatizing everything and making it perfect.

Literally everything is recorded to a metronome, except maybe Bonnie Prince Billy style fedora-core recorded in one take. I'd agree its very hard for drums to always keep perfect time and sometimes going out of whack in fills or chorus/verse changes, they need to practice more.
But in my experience its usually always the guitarist who cant play in time and forces everybody else to adjust.

>>69119778
Figures, i picked up a kirk hammet signature model les paul like 9 years ago for a steal used, it was gibson scale, never felt right, even after a year.

how the hell do you tell if youre playing on time with a metronome

>>69119877
tap your foot in sync with the metronome

>>69119996
ty baby

>>69119877

t. lead guitarist

If you count 1-2-3-4 in time with the metronome as you play you will know straight away when you are off on the 1

>>69119860
Some drummers cant keep time to a metronome, especially during fills. Metronome has been standard for years, yes, i was strictly refering to low budget records where they cant afford to have the drummer track one song for 4 hours to make it spotless(or to pull in a session drummer that can do the job). It happens more times than youd imagine. The whole point i was trying to make is dont practice playing on time to a record because something like a slightly early kick every other measure measure is enough to train you to play early without even realizing it. Its important to practice to recordings too, but i wouldnt do it to practice timing.

You're right though, guitar player is the one that normally messes everything up.

>>69120069
i think im legit retarded, i try to do this but i get fucked instantly since the song plays two notes for each tick on the metronome

>>69120153
Youre talking either double time or 8ths notes, probably 8th notes.

Count 1 AND 2 AND 3 AND 4 AND
Numbers are on beat, AND is off beat

>>69120218
that makes sense, thanks man

>>69119860
Speaking as a drummer reverting from fills isn't actually that difficult, bass drum is always on auto-pilot and you learn to land the last cymbal hit directly on it.

And not everything is recorded to a click track, in fact a lot of the more funk/off interval rhythms would be hindered by one single track recorded.

>>69119742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0cXRf9if4

24.75" scale, i think that is a little longer than the gibson?

http://www.espguitars.com/products/9526-ec-1000fm-asb?category_id=1963292-ec-series

yeah ideally i don't like the color 100%, i would prefer translucent orange over the flame maple with chrome.

ie same color scheme as this trap's chibson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEKS0vhTFBE

all in all, really hard to beat all of these features etc for under $500 usd used.

>>69120353
>24.75" scale, i think that is a little longer than the gibson?
That's literally the gibson scale lenght.

My fingers keep touching the other strings.
Should I get a bigger guitar or are they all the same length across the strings.

>>69120380
sorry, i've been playing guitar for 3 weeks

>>69120084

> It happens more times than youd imagine

I've recorded in the studio before, its extremely hard to put down the whole drum track perfectly to just a metronome and nothing else, it holds everything back as you say.
The last time I just told the engineer (a coked up 80's dinosaur) to put on a drum machine at the BPM of the song, record the rest of the parts and then I'd do the drums last but he wouldn't do it and got really heated about his "recording method" so I told him to fuck off and packed up.
This seems way easier to me, but nobody will do it and I dont see why not?

>>69120389
well some guitars have wider fretboards but if that fat hawaiian nigger can play on a ukelelee then im sure you could on a regular guitar, just try making a claw with your hand and only press the string with your fingertip

>>69120254
Np
At some point youll hit 16th notes, 4 notes per beat.

Count
1 E AND A 2 E AND A 3 E AND A 4 E AND A
Numbers and AND are in the same spot.

And triplets, 3 per beat(or half beat ocassionally)
Count those TRIH PUH LIT TRIH PUH LIT
Dont count those with numbers.

>>69120404
How far have you progressed in those three weeks? What was your experience before hand? What can you do now?

>>69120452
>fat Hawaiian n-word can play on a ukelelee
That's some real shit

any way to get rid of feedback from cheap amps? i bought this piece of shit used for like 30 quid and cant afford anything better

>>69120485
>censoring nigger on 4chan
fuck off reddit

>>69120389
For how long have you been playing? Pretty much every beginner has problems with that, so if you're just starting I'd say don't bother with another guitar because odds are you just don't know how to use your fretting hand yet.

>>69120492
Yeah but unless you can solder it's probably not happening.

>>69120346

It just takes some practice to instantly switch different feels and rhythms, do a spot improvised fill and land it perfectly and then instantly switch back to normal. You have your set-piece stuff but of course you dont want to do the same thing over and over like some 70's drummer rolling around the toms.
I try to just line up the cymbal with the metronome and then everything else goes off that right hand so its easy to put in offbeat snare and bass hits.

>>69120492
Sit/stand further away from it and don't directly face it.

Or just lower the volume.

>>69120492

Turn it down a bit?

>>69120389
oh also, make sure you have correct thumb placement, not easy to explain over text so google a video about it and that might give you the extra reach necessary for using just your fingertips

>>69120611
>>69120602
volume is barely audible already and even if i stand as far away as i can it still buzzes like a motherfucker, guess ill just have to live with it

>>69120461

never touched one before in my life, now i can play YEM by phish.
kidding aside, i played guitar for like a few weeks as a kid and took some lessons but never practiced.

played bass for 15yrs off and on after that, took lessons, took theory classes in college.

i started not being able to play on the strings and now i can pretty much hit them when/where i want to. it still sounds like a hornets nest when i strum. but i've learned like maybe the 15-20 most popular/used chords and can switch between them pretty well.

a lot of my theory is coming back to me, and i remember a lot more than i think, and learned a lot more back in the day than i ever realized.

actually playing this instrument instead of another instrument (ie bass) has helped my musicianship 100 fold.

usually i just pick up and start strumming out some chords in a progression since i dont feel like i have a lot of time lately since i've been busy at work, but i've been working through mel bay 1 when i have time.

>>69120634

Do you have 5 metalzones on your pedal board turned up to 11?

>>69120664
no idea what a metalzone or pedal board is (no bully pls), the amp is just a 10 watt with volume and low/medium/high equalizer knobs

>>69120639
cont, my main goal for now is to keep playing, working some times for chops on picking clean notes and practicing the mechanics of switching notes, and learning more chords/theory. this will be mixed with progressing through mel bay 1, i want to make it through all of mel bay guitar 1 and 2, and then probably go take lessons for a few months, and then go do more theory on my own.

i'm trying to learn a song here or there on the side, but i really don't give a shit about this aspect of playing. though as i learn theory more, most songs sound super fucking easy now, assuming it isn't phish or dillinger escape plan etc.

>>69120705

I dont know what kind of guitar or amp you have but it shouldn't be doing that generally unless you have the gain and volume turned up and are sitting beside it and pointing your pickups at it. Maybe somebody abused the shit out of that amp by playing a bass through it.

>>69120409
Different strokes for different folks. Old people get set in their ways, and they also tend to look down on younger people who they feel have less experience, know less about whats going on. That sounds like a solid method, i could see it having issues in some settings, such as bands that have a little bit of an improv thing going on, or say you lay out a fill and it would sound really neat of the bass synced the fill with one of his own. But thats what punch ins are for, so completely feasible. Ive seen some engineers even hate the idea of recording scratch tracks.

I was thinking about doing something similar until i get a drum room set up, but using an electronic drum set tracking midi to a sequencer where we can go back and line up kick and snare if its off time, recording everything, then going back and recording live drums at this guys spot I know. I cant stand the guy, but he has an excellent sounding room and mics, and he charges like $25 an hour. If we had everything else complete we could just slide in, track in a day or 2, and then i may never have to see him again.

>>69120705
Does it buzz when you have nothing (no guitar/cable) plugged into it?

>>69120901

That sounds like a good plan. A good electronic kit can sound as good as any real kit and is way easier to record with in every way.

anyone know any slow paced, beginner metal songs for bass?

>>69120940
when its unplugged it makes no noise, thanks for having patience with my stupidity

Help guys, I just bought a joyo ultimate overdrive pedal and bought this pedal https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005M0CK9M/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479428092&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=joyo+ultimate+overdrive and it sounds like shit out of my stratocaster, my amp is a fender mustang III does anyone know what could be the problem? I've heard using longer audio jacks could be the problem but I've only ever used a really long one so idk if it affects the tone

>>69121028
The buzz might be coming from your guitar then. That could be from shitty electronics/poor shielding/noisy pick-ups/etc. Also, possible interference from other electronics around you.

>>69121060
>I've heard using longer audio jacks could be the problem but I've only ever used a really long one so idk if it affects the tone

a longer cable? what do you mean exactly? its probably because you bought a $30 chinese pedal with a modeling amp.

Hey /gg/ i'm about to begin setting up my LP from scratch and the guides i see on google all have different order and measurements for it, which is the ultimate setup guide i should be following? Thanks in advance kind anons

>>69121288
Its pretty straight forward

New strings
Stretch strings
Adjust truss rod as needed, little increments, tighten first, even if you need too loosen it. Like, 1/8th of a turn then back to where it was initially, easier to toghten than loosen, just to make sure its turning.
Set action.
Check for fret buzz through an amp, you might get buzz thats not detectable at all through the amp that doesnt affect sustain.
Adjust intonation.

And clean everything up real nice with the strings off.

Dont adjust the truss rod without knowing what youre doing and why. Read at least 3 reputable articles. I fucked up my first truss asjustment. That was back when the only thing you could find on the internet were a couple of shitty html sites, theres much better resources available now.

>>69121216
The input from my guitar into the pedal is a long cable and someone told me that shorter cables are optimal but idk if that's true

>accidentally my whole guitar while trying to take it apart
FUCK, anyone know how to fix this?

>>69121547
Unless you're using like 20+ m of cable to plug your guitar the effect is pretty negligible.

>>69121617
Fug so is its probably just a shit pedal and shit amp

So I got a bass pretty much just for my home "studio", I have no experience with one. I need to tune it down to drop B though, but I have no fucking clue how to adjust the truss rod and there aren't any guitar shops in a reasonable distance to do it for me. Should I just tune to drop D and transpose it down in my DAW?

>>69121596
Do everything you did but in reverse

>>69121498
Thanks i'm getting started already i guess.
Also, how did you fuck it up?

>>69121745
get a 5 string

>>69121547
Longer cables have more resistance(technically i think its capacitance, im not not that savvy). Anyways, that can suck up power and kill your tone(as legend goes). If your pedal is not true bypass then it has a buffer, a buffer will help counteract that. Ive never had an issue with 20 ft cables. Probably not your issue.

Joyo sucks, had their fuzz octave, garbage for anything thats not lofi and abbrasive.

>>69121874
Too poor my nigga

>>69121914

Get a thicker set of strings and an allen wrench.

Put the thicker strings on your bass, adjust saddles/nut if needed. Set truss rod action with the allen wrench, then adjust intonation on the bridge.

>>69121849
Over tightened it. I was 15 and it was my first electric.

I had been playing 6 months, then i played someone else's guitar, and i realized how much easier it was to play then mine, even though he said it was in the same price range as mine. Did some research, found set ups, attempted it.

Then i heard the snap. I had some money saved from mowing grass and doing handyman shit like fixing fences and changing door knobs or whatever, i just bought a new one. But i had to learn from a hard mistake.

>>69121714
are you on a clean preset?

>>69122323
I have any modulation turned off it's just clean

>>69121991
shit, this kinda scares me since i gotta tighten the truss rod, i hope it all goes well

>>69122529
Just dont over tighten it, they recommend like an 1/8th of a turn at a time. I was a heavy handed kid without much foresight, you should be fine.

Does sg bro or axefx australia bro still lurk?

>>69123178
doubt it

>>69121991
By easier to play do you mean the action was lower?

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Rate pls https://a.clyp.it/0yaz3mky.mp3

>>69123511
Cant even remember bro, that was over a decade ago.

>>69123579
Heres the original song for comparision https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmXNL8uO3U4

>>69123579
Are you doing a kiss cover album? Its pretty solid, the other one too. Youre not really projecting your voice, sounds like youre holding back. I like the drum sound youre getting.

>>69123955
Not but i liked the idea
I'm shameful of the neighbors, gonna try to record singing louder
This song is pretty obscure, are you into kiss?

>>69124165
I honestly have no idea how I know so many of their songs. I spent a few years growing up in southwest Detroit(mexican town) and all the white dudes around there loved Kiss.

Theyve got a distinct sound though, you can tell its them immediately. I would have guessed it was Kiss by the third chord even if i didnt recognize it.

It took me a while to get over singing aeound neighbors, but i came to the realization that singing to crowds is much worse as far as anxiety goes. Neighbors might be annoyed, crowds may look for reasons to hate you. Keep it up man, im interested to see what you do next.

>>69123579
bretty good

why are ricks so expensive what warrants the pricetag

>>69124528
beatles kinks lemmy used them

my fingers fucking hurt when do you get used to the pain

>>69124528
This >>69124560 but also I think they pay the workers well. I think they also churn out less in a day then Gibson/Fender.

>>69122605
i think i kinda got the hang of it, but strings buzz around still when fretting, is it possible this changes ovenight after the tension settles a little?

>>69116513
I think they're the best entry-level basses. Good quality control and you can always upgrade the pickups.

>>69124645
When you buy superglue

>>69124645
When you get good

>>69124714
should i superglue the tips of my fingers?

>>69124732
Tip of your penis too for the real folk blues

>>69118493
I haven't encountered that many bass players here. It's mostly guitarists because everyone everywhere plays guitar.

>>69124645

If they hurt, play more. If they bleed, break until the skin is healed and begin to play again. Callous yourself over and over again and never stop playing or you will never develop them, or you will lose them. Play at least 30 minutes a day and in a couple of months you won't mind so much.

>>69124769
penis playing is too advanced for me

>>69124811
>he cant strum with his penis

wow how new are you

>>69124829
This sounds dangerous

has anyone tried those gibson scale length necks they sell at warmoth on a strat or tele?

seems kind of interesting and i like gibson scale over fenders

>>69124877
honestly desu senpai noob here
is the only difference between the two scales a couple of inches and not any other functional way?

>>69125238
the difference is 3/4 of an inch

and yes, that is a noticeable difference in the way it plays and feels. i'm more comfortable on gibson scale length because i played on it for like 15 years before switching to a tele

>>69125238
It changes the sound a little, plays differently, different string tension.

Theres also baritone scales, 27" and 28.5", for guitars tuned to b standard(normally), and bass vi scale of 30" for a guitar tuned an octave lower from standard. Neck is longer so strings can reach tension at a lower tuning. Light strings on a gibson will be floppy at b standard.

Thoughts on headphone amps? Worth getting if you mostly play for yourself and have a good set of cans, or is it better to spend a little more and get a speaker amp combo?

t. someone in a college dorm

>>69125438
get a usb interface

>>69125458
how does it compare to a headphone amp like the Vox AC30 for example? Because a usb interface seems to be a bit more than that.

>>69125438
In my experience the vox ones sound like trash, really buzzy and whiney, and using AAA batteries is a pain. Biggest drawback would be if you like playing along to music its not going to happen, biggest pro is that they only have one cable and you can play through them anywhere. Its easy to get tangled with a cable going to your waist and one going to your head while moving your arm around with a guitar neck sticking out.

Theyre not the worst sounding thing, but theyre not pleasant sounding either. I keep one in my case so i can practice betweeb sets or rehearsals. Or so i can work on parts if someone is recording.

>>69116513
I'm late, but i'll answer anyway. Bought that as my 2nd bass and couldn't put it down. It has a familiar body to my squier affinity, while also having a thin neck to go up and down. For ~$200 you can't go wronf.

>>69125286
>>69125410
i see i see ty anons
anything to watch out for switching from gibson to fender neck?

>>69124645
Rubbing alcohol on a cotton swab. Wipe fretting hand and air dry 3 times a day for a week.
Dries up skin and lets calluses build faster. Stay the fuck away from soap with lots of additives.

If your fingers still hurt, stop being a fucking baby.

>>69125604
Fender has small radius on their fretboards compared to Gibson. Gibson tends to use 12" radius, Fender 9.5", if it's a "vintage style" Fender, if can be 7.25" radius, which is a baseball bat with strings on.

>>69125749
oh
so is that why so many strat style guitars come with a tremolo?

>>69125799
Has absolutely nothing to do with it.

>>69125604
gibson fretboards usually have a 12" radius, fender usually has 9.5". the radius basically means how flat or round the fretboard is, 12" radius is flatter than a 9.5". shredder types of players usually like flat boards because it's consistent and it feels faster for single line stuff, rounder necks are easier on the fingers and hands, and it makes gripping chords easier. 12" to me is the best balance for rhythm and lead stuff, but that's just a preference, some may like 16" more.

the neck profiles and the fret types and size are also very different.

>>69125815
seems impossible to bend on

>>69125829
You can bend just as easy on 9.5", they're shit at playing really fucking fast on though.

You guys talk about fretboard radius so often I feel like I'm weird for not caring at all about it.

>>69124528
ive always wanted to know, where they always that expensive? cause it seemed like everyone had one back then

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