/mlp/ Religion Project

>>30293561
Anon
http://iwatchitfortheplot.romesilvanus.io/⁄mlp⁄/The%20Church%20of%20the%20Divine%20Celestial%20Goddesses/

>>30293561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuQhZDyXyB8

>>30293577
Most definitely. The more the better.

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I want to help write a "Bible" for this religion.

We can call it "The Book of Harmony" or something similar.

Will lay out my email if anyone wants to work on it with me.

>>30293614
We'll probably be doing the brunt of the work in the Discord with updates posted here, swing by.

>>30293561
Isn't this behavior is what caused a man to make a cult about his waifu which he eventually did a murder/sucide in the name of?

>>30293576
https://youtu.be/Pi6QdWma-mA?t=49s

>>30293666
But ours preaches love and tolerance :^)

>>30293684
Does Christianity have waifus?

>>30293666
I think in order to have a cult you have to have more than one member, Randy was just one sad severely delusional loser.

>>30293691
His religion was Danny Phantom, and it preached killing.

>>30293691
He had a few followers actually. A pretty laughable amount, but it's there

Being a theist I heavily oppose the idea but I can't stop you.

>>30293734
We're theists now too

>>30293709
He had a few people that liked his shit cartoons for whatever reason, I highly doubt you could find one who unironically believe they'll become one of his ghost bimbo OCs after they die given his view numbers before the shooting.

>>30293736
I mean I believe in the Abrahamic God, just not completely in the Bible.

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>>30293561
Or you could live a life of good works and compassion for others and go to the actual heaven.

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>>30293746
>agnostic
Not a real position of belief bruh, in my experience you're probably an atheist.

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This is a good idea. I've often fantasized about a church of people just as devoted as I am to my waifu.

>>30293769
I smell NRDT

>>30293775
NRDT?
Is this the new TOPF?

>>30293775
Nope, I actually comprehend that waifus are sacred. Mine is no better than another's, except to me.

>>30293749
I hate this kind of logic, at that point your beliefs become so vague and arbitrary that you might as well not believe in anything at all.

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This is what I want to believe.

Equestria after Death, every world is someone's heaven:

https://pastebin.com/nEnDSdhG

>>30293800
Nah, I'm sorry.
You either believe in god(theist) or you don't(atheist), it's a yes or no question.

>>30293807
Well I have had three miracles
Two astral projections to heaven
Saw the promised city
I know you will think I am insane but I know what I have seen.

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>>30293763
>go to heaven
>meet angels
>meet God
>mfw they're all no hooves

>>30293841
God can create entire universes just for you.
Magical talking ponies are easy to make, trust me.

>>30293833
That sill doesn't prove that the Abrahamic God specifically exists, it can just as likely be something else entirely

>>30293841
This
>>30293852
Please leave false prophets

>>30293855
Whatever, do as you wish then.

>>30293852
This is an aspect of >>30293813.

>>30293855
Who are you to dictate the world to come for each and know the will of God?

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>>30293829
>Lives in an indescribably large Universe
>Couple of religions on an insignificant rock
>You either believe one of them, or you don't believe in a Higher Power at all

>>30293853
It is something that loves every single one of us, and inb4 you say "then why he punishes his creation?" I'll say, as any good Father you always look to correct your kids when they are behaving incorrectly.

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>>30293837
>>30293880
You're missing the point.
Knowledge=/=Faith
You see, personally, I don't know enough to say for certain whether there is or isn't a god doubt I ever will, but I don't believe there is because I have yet to experience anything that would make me think me maybe there is.

>>30293907
>Knowledge=/=Belief
Mean't to change that, but must've slipped my mind.

>>30293904
>Eight year old gets cancer
Oh look that stupid analogy fell apart.

>>30293955
Anon God can revive anyone at any point, death is cheap.
You think when you die it all ends, but you don't know everything.

>>30293955
Celestia and Luna know they can't protect everypony from evil, but they do their best to make sure we know we are loved.

Name was decided by the Discord, we are now the religion of Maneism.

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>>30294081
I'm not doing to let Discord-users decide the name, and besides, that's absurd because we don't have the faintest outline of the content.

>>30294111
Come and vote with us then on future stuff. Do your part to help build the religion.

>>30294111
It came from a strawpoll with Manae, which someone said is greek for all the goddeses of the sun and moon

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>>30294129
No, because chat groups are an awful medium that preclude thoughtful consideration.

This whole thing will almost certainly be an ephemeral meme anyway, and I wouldn't be surprised if you go full retard and create some Equestria-centric pagan bullshit worshipping the princesses.

Here are my thoughtful twopence:

1) It needs to be worldly. 99% of humanity has nothing to do with ponies and the foundation should account for that.
2) It needs to be monotheistic, built on the concept of a loving God (there needs to be some all-encompassing cause) and resurrection in the world to come, which for some of us is Equestria.

All this whole project is doing is giving a name to what many of us believe or want to believe in the first place.

>>30294179
>monotheistic, built on the concept of a loving God
>what many of us believe or want to believe in the first place.
y tho
At the very least it should be bi(?)theistic, seeing as the princesses are canon gods of the sun and moon

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ya'll need satan

>>30294205
See (1).

>>30294216
If we're going with a religion on ponies and Equestria, which is what the thread topic was about, then it should be full or none.

Also, for thread anons, were going to start putting together a creation story, or an intro of some sort. We need help collecting every bit of show relevant lore there is on such things. If peeps could post links and images they find here, it'd be helpful.

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>>30294267
This is so fucking stupid.

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>>30294081
>Letting discord decide everything instead of the board.
Easy way to fuck things up and turn it into a personal project rather than a group one.
It should have something to do with "Harmony" rather than the princesses themselves, as it's one of the fundamental forces of their world and is something that actuallys translates to ours pretty easily.
Hell, most european religion pre-christianity was pretty much that from what we can gather of that time period.

>>30294179
This, although i disagree on it being monotheistic, i dont think a single 'god' is needed at all.

Personally speaking my own thoughts is that we should have three seperate 'sects' of the same group, each represented by one of the pony races that govern an aspect of life, and that it's only by working together that we achieve harmony.

Earth = Your enviroment = Nature = Land
Pegasi = Your body = Physical = Sky
Unicorn = Your mind = Spiritual = Magic

Only the fully dedicated would embrace all three, but it allows people to focus on the parts of the faith that are important to them while still feeling like part of the community.

>>30294306
Sadly it's how this always goes, chatgroups ruin everything.

>>30294327
We've talked about the harmony thing. We want input from the thread too but being in both helps keep up with the discussion.

http://readcomiconline.to/

Searching "My Little Pony" on this site brings up all the comics. We need all relevant lore bits to the creation of Equestria.

>>30294386
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/My_Little_Pony_Friendship_is_Magic_Wiki

Most of the creation lore is in the wiki, how should we incorporate it? Any anons have thoughts?

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>making a religion about an objectively shit cartoon
you might as well make a fucking teletubbies religion too, this autism is unprecedented

>>30294435
I'm pretty sure it's just for shits and giggles who knows people might actually believe it.

Reposting from the feels thread because I was too impatient to finish reading the thread before posting.

I am slowly building up a working religion. Its a little more involved than say, Christianity, but it has brought me great peace.

Every morning I pray to Celestia, and every evening, before sleep, I pray to Luna. The six elements are more like the ten commandments.
Something like:
>Strive to act with kindness towards others who need it.
>Treat nature/wildlife with respect and care.
>Strive to be honest even when it does not benefit you.
>Finish what you start and strive to be as reliable as you can.
>Strive to destroy the dark cloud of negativity humans so easily create with laughter and a positive outlook.
>Strive to help your friends when they are down.
>Stay loyal to those who stay loyal to you.
>Give every competition your all, strive to make Equestria proud that you tried your best.
>Strive to be more generous, never let your greed cripple someone.
>Strive to support the arts, be it by creating or consuming. Do not let the cold harsh reality of the human world crush the beauty of creativity.
>Strive to end conflicts when they arise, Equestria needs a united front wherever her people may be.
>Wherever you can, seek to unite and not to break apart. Seek out knowledge like it's going out of style.

I could go deeper but I honestly think you'd be fine practicing it at a casul level like this. Just wish I could come up with a good name for it or maybe find more people to practice it.

>>30294208
These all sound like rules written by middle schoolers

>>30293561
You guys want any music/hymns for the religion? I'll be willing to write music if you guys provide me with some text

>>30294527
Yes please, if you could do stuff like that it'd be amazing. Do you have a link to any Youtube work?

>>30294499
"Celestia, guard over us this day and guide us as we venture into your light"
"Luna, guard over us this night and guide us as we venture into our dreams"
are the prayers.

>>30294081
Working title if other anons want to post possible names.

>>30294539
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xlw56ihzdf208o1/Bouchard.aiff?dl=0

Here's an original composition I did for an orchestration class.

>>30294463
I already believe it.

>>30294463
I am 100% nonironic about this now.

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>>30294463
I've already been doing it for a few years now, unironically.

>>30293561
There's already been one since 2013. There's a dropbox for it and I saw a thread for it literally yesterday. I'll find it

>>30294990
>>30289803

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https://youtu.be/PlKYfOFAoN0

OC Music

>>30293614
Wouldn't it be more like a Dhammapada, Sutta Nipata or Vedas?

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>>30295953
From Blue__Flame in the discord

farcry 5 poni edition when?

>>30296030

Yeah, if anyone has any music to donate, please drop it here or join our discord server.

>>30296019
It is.i just couldn't think of the right word. It's probably closest to bhuddism.

>>30294570
do you get any position for the prayer (I.e. on knees, hands together) or do you say it while doing things?

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Stop worshiping ponies.

>>30297724
I'm working on a more in depth description that I'll post later, but basically I have a makeshift altar to each princess, I get on one knee with my hand clasped just above my head and say it quietly. You'd be fine with just praying casually though, I just like being a wannabe wizard.

>>30294499
>>30294570
>>30297724
Wrote it all out in a pastebin, will add more.
Covers:
Prayers, Sunday/Monday, Prayers for occultfags/paganfags, and Altar tips.

Will finish Evocation instructions if and when I'm done figuring out a safe and reliable way to do it, just so I don't unwittingly lead to someone ending up in the funny bin or worse.
https://pastebin.com/QEK7kugG

>>30298651
>Summoning and Evocation rituals is serious shit and you could end up as some demon's meat puppet or worse, lead that shit Equestria's way.
>implying I won't go full /k/, make an arsenal, paint suns and moons on all of them, open a portal to hell, and RIP AND TEAR

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>>30298770
bless you anon, that made my day

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>trying to make a religion out of this
This has been an on-off reoccuring thing for years now, and its a flawed idea from the start
This will never truly be something beyond an interesting writing practice and/or an excuse to win the award for most autistic LARP religion of all time.
It inherrently lacks any form of spiritual satisfaction, and always will, no matter how hard you say otherwise on the matter

>>30299320
hard truth

>>30293813
that image damn. i wonder how many anons have had similar experiences

>>30293561
You know OP, I had an idea like this a year back. Y'all niggas get outta my head I swear to Celestia if you steal one more idea from me I'll.

>>30305618
>Implying Saint Pinkamena Diane Pie isn't throwing her a sick "Welcome to Equestria" party
Why do you doubt the one truth religion, Anon?

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>>30305618
I'm sure someone as loved as her wouldn't be denied entry to Equestria.

>>30305618
She's making dresses with her right now. Rarity even gave her a white and frilly one as soon as she arrived.

>>30293561
Stop, this is even more autistic than tulpas.

Don't do this.

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>>30305618
No. Equestria isn't for little girls.

>>30306483
Joke's on you. I already worship my tulpa as a goddess.

>>30306503
>2017
>there are people right now with no tulpa or pony religion
D I S G U S T

>>30306483
Tulpas are not autistic.
They're schizophrenic :^)

>>30306483
Right like this is any wierder than pagon gods, nature spirits, or Jesus.

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>>30306567

>>30306589
What? You tip that like I'm denouncing religion. It's not all bad when it comes to belief you know, it just has that stigma of people saying "you can't make your own because it's heretical".

>>30306625
"b-but belief has to have a magical jew"
"and thousands of years of history"
"you can't just one day come together and try and make some good in the world"
And most religions were just that at their inception.
We're just trying to bring a little good to the world and our lives.

>>30306589
>i-it's not weird if it's popular, U guis

>>30299320
>it inherently lacks any form of spiritual satisfaction
The phrase "spiritual satisfaction" is so vaguely defined that it can mean pretty much whatever you want it to. The closest meaning to a concrete definition that can be brought up is the concept of inner peace. Inner peace is derived not from religion, but oneself- religion is merely a tool for achieving this.
Therefore, it is plausible that one can find inner peace from a pony themed religion.

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We're going to make it.

>>30307156
>this religion is going to have friendship and ponies.
I'm fucking sold.

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>>30307143
She's going to hug us and tell us it's all okay.

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>>30306752
Thank you based anon, have a (you).

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>>30308685
And in our final moments, she'll come to us, wings spread to envelop us in her holy warmth. Hoofstep by hoofstep she'll lead us into the afterlife on a road of pure sunlight. And she'll lean down, and say to us,

Welcome home.

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You fags aren't going to sway me from the one true faith.

>>30294435
fuck off Lee
You're only seeking to harm yourself even more, just leave

>>30294463
I have unironically believed in this kind of thing for years, but I've been waiting for an actual attempt at an organized religion

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>>30306752
>Inner peace is derived not from religion, but oneself- religion is merely a tool for achieving this.
>Therefore, it is plausible that one can find inner peace from a pony themed religion.
But the problem that lies with making a pony-themed religion, especially in this day in age, is that inner peace via religion comes from having genuine belief in that religion. Even shit like Buddhism requires an inherrent belief in the religious tenants of it for said inner peace.

A pony-themed religion is the same as modern paganism: Its inherrently fake. You can pretend all you want that its real, that its a real religion and so on. But in their heart of hearts, people will still acknowledge there is no true deity there, that its all smoke and mirrors. You can have a 'holy book', which would be more than pagans can say, but everyone secretly knows it's made up in magnitudes more than you could say about the Bible or any other holy book. To create the inner peace that religion provides, you require mysticism, and making a religion off a TV show would make it lack in such degrees that its honestly laughable.
People who find peace in Christianity do so because have firm belief in God and Christ.
People who find peace in Buddhism do so because they have let go of their earthly possessions and attachments, and thereby have escaped the cycle of reincarnation set out by Hinduism
People who find peace in a religion about a children's cartoon would only do so because they were so deluded they refused to remember it was created not through any form of spiritual enlightenment or relevation, but because anonymous people on the internet said 'lets make a religion' and built it from there, and have deluded themselves into thinking it's religiousity is real, has been created, or is going to be created.
At best, you're all LARPing. At worst, you're making an eventual suicide cult

>>30312203
>you'll never actually believe in this, the """real""" religions that are already established are the only things that people can actually belive
You'd be surprise
given enough persistence and autism (which is certainly in no short supply around here), it can be done
how the hell do you think the more established and older religions of today even got started?

>>30312203
A lot of us look for relevant inner peace in what MLP has to say though, not just direct worship of deities. Many people look at the world around them for personal significance, in a way this is no different. The bible? Written by others. Guides to life? Written by others. MLP? Written by others. Ultimately this all relies on personal significance anyways, and everyone takes away from it something intrinsic to themselves if that's what they were looking for, as is usual with most if not all religions. If anything, it's even superior in some regards. "Be nice to others lest you perish in hellfire." Or, our alternative, "Be nice to others because you know it's a good thing to do."

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>>30312235
>how the hell do you think the more established and older religions of today even got started?
Because they are all rooted in writings and oral histories stretching back into antiquity. You can trace direct lines from early Animism to everyone of the modern day religions and their denominations. Their origins, and thereby their gods, have attachted to them a mysticism that transcends beyond history to this day.
And more so to the point, their mysticism never had to deal with the fact that it was all based off a children's cartoon.
>>30312274
>A lot of us look for relevant inner peace in what MLP has to say though, not just direct worship of deities. Many people look at the world around them for personal significance, in a way this is no different.
Well no shit. Nothing to stop you from finding inner peace from MLP itself. To make a religion out of this is an entirely different ballgame that is ultimately a failure
>The bible? Written by others. Guides to life? Written by others. MLP? Written by others.
The Bible is a collection of legends pertaining to the origins of man, morals and lifestyles, and life after death whose history stretches back into antiquity. 'Guides to life' as you so aptly call Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism, which stretches into antiquity, where the only major difference between is the disregard of a caste system and directions unto which to transcend the Hindu reincarnation.
MLP is a glorified commercial for toys.
>If anything, it's even superior in some regards. "Be nice to others lest you perish in hellfire." Or, our alternative, "Be nice to others because you know it's a good thing to do."
That is such an ignorant view on Christianity I honestly don't know what to say. And what is this 'because its good to do'? Morality itself is a very fluid concept to which you cant qualify as 'nice' or 'good' unless you specifically state what is good and what is bad, and the consquences thereof, because otherwise selfishness wins

>>30293666
Get out of here Satan.

>>30312389
History != Truth, only the perception of truthiness. They could for all intents and purposes be entirely wrong, complete fabrications for what many people believe was the early goal of controlling the masses at large.

And what defines a religion from finding inner peace in it? We're talking, chatting, and swapping ideas about the ideals of the show back and forth. We've aptly named it a religion. Where's the difference apart from nomenclature?

A glorified commerical may have truth to it. Things we can take from it. If it didn't, then nobody would have cared in the first place. You don't see attempts at a Target religion, or a Powerpuff religion. Maybe there's something inherently peaceful about MLP that attracts this kind of behavior and attention.

Summary != Ignorant. I was using a basic perception about religion in general to make a point, rather than a fully thought out critique if you hadn't noticed. Additionally, I didn't name Christianity. I just said hellfire. Most if not all religions have some semblance to a place of punishment, or an equivalent to one. And the counterpoint to most of these places in a lot of peoples minds is the fact that they are often severe, unfair, and unforgiving.

Additionally, yes, Morality is fluid unless there are concrete views on it others can prescribe to. Relativism, culturalism, etc. And this particular Ethos is derived from "magic is friendship." I understand this is a stretch for you.

>>30312203
The problem I see with this religion going forward is its inability to answer, or even ask, profound questions. There's no bedrock philosophy that the tenets to stand on. And because of that, it inherently lacks a deep understanding of the human psyche that most of the major religions have.

>>30312455
We have 7 seasons worth of material, friendship lessons, and movies to reference. "Major" religions have their fair share of inabilities when answering many questions, hence the reason there is intense heated discussions on how exactly things should be interpreted and applied to daily life. This is an attempt at the same thing with different material.

>>30297758
No u

>>30312203
For my personal belief, its less that I genuinely believe in god, but moreso that I act as of He were real. I understand fairly well the bible and its meanings, using that as a sort of guidance for life.

>>30312455
I agree with this. I think the only way around were to draw inspiration from current relgions, as the show follows many of the same archetypical entities present in many of our stories, in order to write it with a bit more depth to it. It'd be a lengthy process and probably require someone with even more theological background knowledge than I.

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>>30312448
>History != Truth, only the perception of truthiness.
And therein lies the rub. People dont need it to be 100% true, they just need to be able to have the belief its true. This MLP religion inherrently lacks any form of truthiness to be convincing. In the grand sake of it, it doesnt matter whether its true, but whether one can believe it

>And what defines a religion from finding inner peace in it? We're talking, chatting, and swapping ideas about the ideals of the show back and forth. We've aptly named it a religion. Where's the difference apart from nomenclature?
To make it a religion requires a worship of some kind. You have to place faith in whatever mystical idea that is being put out by that religion to achieve inner peace from said religion. Inner peace in religion comes forefront in the idea that your eternal soul will be brought to a better afterlife after death.
If its just the ideas of the show you're knocking about, it is in no way a religion, merely a lifestyle choice.

>Maybe there's something inherently peaceful about MLP that attracts this kind of behavior and attention.
Because it connects with basic moral tenents typical of a moral society as well as feelings of social acceptance, the exact feelings a religion should invoke. This does not make it a religion, merely a lifestyle that people will use in place of a religion. No harm in that, but to try and turn it into a bonafide religion is idiotic

>Additionally, yes, Morality is fluid unless there are concrete views on it others can prescribe to. Relativism, culturalism, etc. And this particular Ethos is derived from "magic is friendship." I understand this is a stretch for you.
See, I've no problem with this totally. Props to you guys on this neat way to spread the social values of MLP.
But the only way this would ever actually succeed as a religion would require a worldwide civilization-destroying event to occur that would cloud the field of history. As said earlier you need truthiness

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>>30312572
>but whether one can believe it
And a few of us so far are entirely personally on board with it. To connect this to a later point in the response, most of us are aware of both the implications and limits of this kind of ideal, a religion from something relatively new and generally considered "less than ideal for a religion", that being MLP.

>you're knocking about, it is in no way a religion, merely a lifestyle choice.
I would disagree with you on this point. While the classical definition of a religion certainly pertains to ideologies that only contain the belief of a "supreme power", it's not necessarily required in my opinion. (Understandably, this is opinion.) In its subtext, even if an anon decides to toss aside any sort of belief of Celestia or Luna as being real and supreme beings, is it necessarily not a religion? Even if they pertain, follow, and ascribe to rules - traditions - and teachings? What seperates it from a lifestyle choice would be the personal significance. One can recognize divinity in something without believing in that divinity.

>No harm in that, but to try and turn it into a bonafide religion is idiotic
Again, it truly depends on everyones own personal definition of a religion. We don't have a church, priests in robes, and incense swinging from chains. We're a collection of like minded anons who believe there is something profound in MLP to be recognized. I believe you're arguing from the perspective that the extent or planned extent at which this is meant to be taken is outrageously far.

>succeed as a religion
But, are we trying to succeed? To herald an earlier point, this is a cambodian knitting forum for a children's show. Does this truly matter? Probably not. Could it matter to the people involved? Definitely. And that's all it's trying to be. "Make a religion" and "Make a successful billion dollar way of life" are two different goals. You mistake us for the later.

>>30312651
Well see, now this is just all becoming an argument over what a religion truly is.
>In its subtext, even if an anon decides to toss aside any sort of belief of Celestia or Luna as being real and supreme beings, is it necessarily not a religion? Even if they pertain, follow, and ascribe to rules - traditions - and teachings?
Its still not a religion. A religion is the rules and traditions that pertain to the worship of a deity and the following of said deity's teachings
Ethnic groups and lifestyle choices like abstinence or prohibition certainly have their own rules, traditions, and teachings, but we don't treat those as a religion. Those can as well bring about inner peace, of a different kind of course, but inner peace all the same.
Religion requires the worship of something as divine. Inner peace from religion requires knowing that your soul after death will be better off than the life you lived.
MLP cannot provide that

Like I said, all the more for you for spreading the teachings of MLP into your life in order to better oneself and find inner peace as a lifestyle, but a religion requires worship, and any worship that could thereby stem from MLP would fail as explained by my previous posts

>>30312538
>I think the only way around were to draw inspiration from current relgions, as the show follows many of the same archetypical entities present in many of our stories, in order to write it with a bit more depth to it.
And the thing is, MLP does have some great moral narratives, particularly the first two seasons, whether Faust realized she was doing it or not. Think of the return of harmony.

A common narrative in mythology is the creation myth. Order is established out of chaos. God made the world from nothingness. Not from nothing, but nothingness itself. Out of the chaos came day and night, then the ordering of land from water, and then from that order could life arise.

1/2

>>30312717
The longer a discussion goes on the more likely it is to detract from it's original point.

>worship of a deity and the following of said deity's teachings
My point was that it was optional, it doesn't mean that some anons don't do it. We have the goddesses and MLP as their teachings.
And by the amount of posts on this board of anons believing in Equestria, as most religions seem self propelled on mass alone, it could possibly provide that.

It needn't inherently fail - what you put into it is ultimately what you get out of it. And until the end, no one has the truth regardless. Maybe MLP is a reflection of divinity rather than true divinity. Ascribing to that reflection may be as good as following any other reflection. There's no foolproof way to measure "viability."

Ultimately, this is pedantic though. It still boils down to the believer. If you don't believe in it, or respect it, the very least one can do is leave it alone. If we ultimately fail you will have the ability to remain smug. If we chug on by ourselves, we've hurt no one and possibly brought about something special.

>>30312755

Now, relate that to the old story of Celestia and Luna fighting Discord. What happened? Discord is literally chaos. He reigned, but why is that a bad thing? Because to live in perpetual chaos is suffering. So, how do we fix that? By following the creation myth: from chaos comes order. The sun and moon rose in a regular fashion, seasons come and go. But how did they do that? They used the elements of harmony, which by the way, aren't just mystical objects, they're qualities in people: laughter, generosity, honesty, loyalty, kindness, and magic. The gods of the world used those elements to turn Discord into stone. Now, they didn't kill him. Why? Why imprison him? Because you can't kill chaos. Chaos can be contained, but never eradicated. So what happens? A thousand years later, the CMC bicker, and Discord is free. Just like that. It's that simple. And he has to be imprisoned again by the elements of harmony, which are embodied by everyday ponies.

Take a step back, and think about the moral lesson taught.
>Watch your temperament, and watch your mouth.
Why? Because at any moment, order can devolve into chaos -and not just a little chaos, a LOT of chaos- and you don't want that, because chaos is hell. It doesn't matter how long you have been at peace, chaos lurks right around the corner, and all it takes is a little slip-up to do you in. And the only thing to bring order back is for you to bring yourself up to the level of godly behavior, because remember, Celestia and Luna used the same elements, and if you want to accomplish what they accomplished, then you need to hold yourself to the level that they did, but here's the thing: you can. Anyone can do this, but not everyone will, because it takes a great deal of effort to do that, and it requires that wholeheartedly embody these qualities.

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>>30310737
That was quite a fall, are you okay?

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>>30298651
hey, could you maybe include >>30294499 in there somewhere? These seem like they could be important.

>>30312717
>A religion is the rules and traditions that pertain to the worship of a deity and the following of said deity's teachings
Explain Buddhism, Tao, and the other adeific religions, then. It may have its origins from Hinduism, but there are no deities relevant to Buddhism itself, only the detachment and transcendence of human suffering through a variety of techniques (fun, unrelated fact: modern tulpafaggotry was derived from old Buddhist traditions, though the tulpas we know of today are created for entirely different purposes). However, in no sense do we see a true deity. Even Siddharta Gautama himself does not qualify, as though many respect him, he is not himself deific.

Overall, I'm getting a strong sense of no true religion. If a religion is nothing more than a tool for achieving inner peace through a series of practices and rules, then it is entirely plausible that one may derive this from mlp.
You (or someone sounding much like you) said that a religion must "feel real", to paraphrase. Here's the thing though. For many, the various texts do not "feel real". The existence of so many different, conflicting religions is testament to this. Even so, they are still religions, and arguably, the opponents of said religions appear unconvinced that those religions "feel real" compared to their own. This contradicts your claim that a religion must "feel real"
You (or someone who sounds a lot like you) also claim that people won't "feel" like a pony based religion is not real because it lacks the antiquity of other religions.. LaVeyan satanism isn't that old, yet it's still, objectively, a religion. As I mentioned earlier, religion does not require a deity to be a religion, so it too is a good example of a religion that contradicts your earlier claims.
From these contradictions, I determine that it is still entirely plausible that mlp can become a religion, because if those contradictions exist, so too can a pony themed one.

>>30314182
Won't feel like a pony-based religion is real*
Fuck me I can't proofread tonight.

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>>30314092
will do in a bit

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>>30314092
https://pastebin.com/2sX3szkq

Had to make it in a new paste because I'm retarded.

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>>30313542
Don't let the evil inside over take, be the good person that you are.

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Where does Flurry Heart fit into all of this? Do you all only regard the sisters as great or?

>>30318453
Flurry isn't the princess of anything yet. Celestia, Luna, and Twilight represent important universal concepts, Cadence represents the sanctity and power of love; but Flurry has no symbology. Maybe innocence, I guess, but that's a long shot.

>>30318453
Fuck everything that was only done on Hasbro's whim.
Fuck Flurry Heart.
Fuck Cadance.
Fuck Rainbow Power.
Fuck Twilight's Castle.
Fuck Equestria Girls.
Fuck Glimmer.
Fuckcetera.

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>>30318699
>the demonic crotchbiscuit
>Innocence

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"Celestia, Luna, guard my heart and guide me out of this valley of despair. Help me to fight through this dark cloud and bless me with the strength to not spread it to my friends."

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>>30319833

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Does Luna guide us into the afterlife or Celestia?

>>30320985
Nyx. Everypony else has better shit to do.

>>30320985
That's a good question
I actually had the thought that Celestia might do it at night, and Luna during the day, so that each can cover for their sister because their sister is busy doing their stuff
only problem is, could Celestia do it in her sleep? Or does Luna do it around the clock?

>>30320985
I would think Twilight, honestly. It works well, given that at least her name represents equilibrium and transition. She guides us from one life to the next so as to maintain balance and harmony.

>>30293561
but we already did this..

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>>30320985
I wouldve said that itd depend on the time of day and which of the Princesses courts one was in, or if they were in both, or if their waifu could guide them.

But what >>30322027 said makes sense too.

NEW DISCORD

>>>> https://discord.gg/JvsnJC

>>30322076
I'm a Mod of the Original server. The fuck is this lmao.

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>>30293813
>every world is someone's heaven
But that's degenerate.

>>30293614
The Journal of the Two Sisters should be like the Old Testament, and then we write the New Testament

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this thread makes me glad that i'm spiritually dead
i've never been happier to be flesh animate before

>>30322075
>>30322027
>>30321979
What about Starswirl? What role does he play? It's implied his abilities are on par if not above that of allicorns.

Harmony?

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>>30324156
Harmony is important, yes.

>>30323340
Just a monk who devoted himself and made it to equestria.
Honestly I don't think magical power should equate to holiness or divinity. Then we'd have to give every gifted unicorn a place in the canon.

I put forward that only the princesses, the elements of harmony, and their foils (i.e. discord) are deities or symbols of important concepts. All others are denizens of equestria. Perhaps even exclude the ponies representing the elements.

>>30323340
He's more of a cultural figure than a religious one

>>30324491
>I don't think magical power should equate to holiness or divinity
okay, I can agree with that. it would be ridiculous to have to include every single powerful magic user that Equus has ever seen.
>exclude the ponies representing the elements
that is some Grade-A Heresy right there
cease this faggotry at once

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Took me forever to find this again.

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>>30326148
thats a beautiful idea, i'm going to try and start doing that.

>>30327084
If we know what was in the letter that was sent we could possibly reverse engineer the response through guesswork.

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>>30326148
>>30326958
I would like to ask, should you write to Celestia, on the off chance it does work and she actually gets the letter - please be formal and polite, don't spam her inbox.

Outside of that I'm sure she'd be beyond delighted to hear that we're trying at the very least to bring some harmony and happiness into our lives.

Maybe we could figure out a way to write letters to Luna as well, I'm sure she'd appreciate a nice letter too.

>>30327118
Can I send her memes?

>>30327727
preferably not
but you could try if you wanted to

So I've been praying to Celestia and Luna for the past few days, as laid out by >>30315864
I really do feel that subtle presence, as if Celestia is with you during the day, and Luna is there with you at night, soothing you so that you can sleep soundly
I like it

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>>30328669
I'm so glad to hear dude, the Princesses really are here to help and guide us.

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b u m p

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>>30293561
>>30328669
>>30328966
what the fuck

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>>30329799
Pray to the horse, its good for you of course.

>>30330046
>it's god* for you
ftfy

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>>30330438
>they're gods to you*
ftfus

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do y'all even praise the sun/moon \[T]/ _\^/|

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>>30331221
\[T]/

This thread is now at the top, where it belongs.

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Is this heresy?


also >>30332564
good man.

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hello fellow anons
I had an idea once to write sermons about episodes of MLP and the moral lessons that they teach, and I still have that document around somewhere
now I feel like I could write sermons about each episode and how it relates to one of the elements/element bearers, relating them to one of the twelve things from >>30294499
what do you anons think?

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>>30333114
I'd be interested in reading it, yeah.

>>30333114
Go for it, sounds interesting.

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I'm not quite sure what this is all about, but I have an idea.

Has Bonnie Zacherie ever created a Pony OC in recognition of the current fandom?

If so, that Pony is now an Alicorn and is the creator of the Universe.
Depending on what previous MLP incarnations turn out to be, the Multiverse.

Queen Faust of the ancient Alicorn nation that Celestia and Luna came from is said to have created Equus, the Pony homeworld (And possibly others, the EQG universe and the alternate Equestria from the comics) However, all traces of them disappeared long ago, sometime after the founding of Equestria by the tribes of the Pegasi, Unicorn, and Earth. So this cannot be verified.

I'm a simple bump farmer
Growing bumps to be ripe
The work is long but rewarding

>>30333734
that sounds interesting
I was thinking of Faust's role being moreso that she's the messenger of Celestia and Luna, meant to spread hope, joy, and the lessons of Equestria to our world through what she has created: a Television show detailing how the Mane 6 became the Elements of Harmony, as well as their lives afterward

>>30333734
She might be. Certainly a neat take on the usual formula.

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>>30334268
praise the humble earth pony, for they are what keeps our society running.

>>30311195
>Implying dad-rock is anything but trash
Also, John Lennon beat his wife.

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Happy Sunday all, don't forget to praise the sun today!

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when should we make this thread again?

>>30335243
I think if you're trying to make a legit religion we don't reference any humans in the creation of the mythos, it should be more like inspired and the inspired writers should stay anonymous

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>>30339857
I agree, not to put them out in the hay bin, but it might deligitimize the religion.

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>>30329799
Praise the pony, or else you're a phony.

bumping in anticipation of some sermons about friendship

>>30333114
There are more episodes without lessons than there are with them ;_;

>>30293561
Weird

>>30343560
>something on /mlp/
>weird
where do you think we are?

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>>30343560
normies get out

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killin some monday blahs with some cozy moontunes https://clyp.it/atwxctkh?token=fc0445585cdcd7f2148da13806fe1c36

praise the moon, friends _\^/|