Drawfag Improvement General

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(If any of these rules don't make sense, please point that out and I'll fix it)

Challenge 3 : Rolling 2; Roll Hardier
PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING VERY WELL:
You will roll twice for this one. One replying to this post, where you will be rolling for your palette
After, you will reply to my next post which will have you roll for the pony you're stuck with drawing WITH that palette!

Pick your Poison:

Baby mode: Roll as many times as you want for either one and basically do whatever because this is the easiest mode.
Medium mode: You get 2 reroll for either your palette OR your character. So you can choose 1 on each or 2 on one of them.
1a: Timed drawing - 60 minutes
Hard mode: No rerolls.
1a: Timed drawing - 30 minutes.
1b: Timed drawing - 15 minutes
Expert mode: WELCOME TO YOUR DOOM. No rerolls. You can only use up to 3 colors on your 5 color palette.
1a: Timed drawing - 30 minutes
1b. Timed drawing - 15 minutes

PS, I did this entire fucking palette by hand so y'all better preciate it.
PPS. I did my best to make sure there were more bright colors for your ponies

>>29587906
First

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>>29587906
Now you need to roll on THIS post to find out what character you'll be drawing.

PS. I'm using a premade one for this because after the 3 hour funfest that was making the palette I said fuck it and used it.

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Also feel free to do JUST the palette if you don't feel up to the full challenge
>>29587910
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>>29587906
Do you have to do it timed or is that just extra?

>>29587620
Go for it, friendo. I'm drawing something with armor too. Maybe I can give you a paintover if you plan to paint it.

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Point out all the glaring flaws please

>>29587926
Everything is optional. the 1a/1b are just harder versions of the mode. Some people like to really get in there and test their skills and others like it more casual so that's why they're there.
>>29587968
I'll do this in 1-3 hours, sorry.

>>29588005
Alright then, rolling

>>29588010
Remember to roll twice

>>29588010
And character

>>29587910
>>29587913
Chrysalis get

>>29588014
>Babs
I don't draw fillies too often, this could be fun.

>>29587906
>>29587913
let's do it

expert mode

>>29588059
You're supposed to roll twice, buddy, haha

>>29587906
ayy

>>29587913
lmaooo

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>>29587906
Thank you, redliner.

>>29587906
Expert mode 1b

>>29588625
2roll

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>>29587968
Alrighty, I can help you now; thank you for your patience.
>>29588625
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>>29588583
You are very welcome

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>>29587968
Sorry if this isn't as good as others; I didn't use a reference and I'm extremely sleep deprived - but at the same time I want you to know you are not a bad artist at all, I just know you can do it and fix it

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Wish I had more time for these challenges. have a doodle.

>>29588698
Thanks a lot pal

>>29588720
Yooouuuu got it
>>29588701
This still came out really cool

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>>29588625
>>29588639
And into a garbage can it goes.

15 min is kill

>>29588782
Hey no, it's not bad. I like how you used the grey on the hair.. Also you don't -have- to do the timed part

>>29587906
Rolling for hard mode 1a

>>29587913
Rolling for my pone
NO WHAMMIES NO WHAMMIES NO WHAMMIES

>>29587906
Maybe I'll try... maybe...

>>29589141
Like I said, everything is optional but you should try to pick one rule that seems challenging enough for you

>>29587913
Now dis

>>29589141
>>29589170
Did I win the lottery now? Colors are litteraly perfectly matching.

>>29589177
Dubs confirms it

>>29589191
I'll get to it tommorow I think. Now I am fixing and playing with this elements pony you redlined for me in previous thread.

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>>29588721
Thanks senpai. Hot sure it still is, kek. I should pull up some reference now.

>>29589840
Great how am I supposed to follow that? Still looks even greater and I wish I could block shit in like that

>>29590997
bump save

>>29587906
Medium mode because I'm a casual piece of shit

>>29587913
second roll

>>29592006
>>29592009
/mlp/ doesn't go fast enough not to get two numbers right next to each other

>>29587906
Roll 1

>>29587913
Roll

>>29587906
Second reroll, fine with RD.

>>29592178
Looks great

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http://theshadowstone.deviantart.com/art/Pinkie-Pie-Jumping-516746485

>>29587890
at first I thought those red Rs were the AIDS ribbon

>>29592324
something something closed due to AIDS

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>>29592358

>>29587913
Rolling

before bed bump. I'm bummed I can't do the challenge until Friday :(

>>29587913
This is a post

>>29587906
man

>>29587913
yeh

>>29587913
can we have with the new background horses?
also roll

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>>29588185
>>29588191
ayyy lmaaooo

>>29587906
Target acquired. Rolling shots.

>>29587913
Secondary target acquired. Rolling out MAC rounds.

>>29593576
>>29593583
This isn't gonna go well at all.

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>>29593344
fug just know I saw the palette thing

>>29593763
>tentiny joins the battle

oh shi-

Also happy birthday

>>29593809
What?
thanks i guess

>>29593344
If there is one available, could you post it? This is the only one I could find and after 2-3 hours of picking every color for the palette, I don't feel like making a brand new roll for pony.
>>29593556
I was going to say "nice Twilight" but then I zoomed in
>>29593595
You can reroll. The options are optional.

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>>29594991
Nah, I did not follow the palette.
I still having no idea wtf i'm doing too.

>>29595418
I would

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>>29595418

>>29595482
what
this is so fucking nice
thanks anon

>>29595488
np

>>29587913
roll

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boop

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>>29587906
Rolling on a yet to be decided difficulty

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>>29587913

>>29597428
>>29597455
fuck you, draw something

>>29596357

>>29587906
roll 1

>>29598503
>>29587913
roll 2

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>>29598007

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I have no idea what i'm doing with these forearms

>>29599263
Because you drew it like a hindleg. The other arm is fine. The one you drew should just be a regular, curved cylinder.

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>>29599263

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>>29599454
>>29599423
but she's supposed to be...

wait a minute i'm being retarded. thank you

>>29587906
>>29587913
give me something good

>>29599454
Thank you
>>29599474
It's okay, you get a warning.

>>29587906

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http://www.deviantart.com/art/Vector-114-Applejack-9-518871007

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How is my pony?

>>29587913
rollan

>>29600989
mc dolan?

>>29587906
I FINALLY GET TO DO MY FUCKIN CHALLENGE

>>29587913

>>29602097
Who the fuck is that? Try again >>29587913

>>29602102
>>29602094
Helloooo nurse

I fill a huge urge to draw pony hips.

>>29602102
>Cheating your own rules

>>29602605
Baby and medium modes allow rerolls

>>29602605
>>29602611
I chose medium mode because I'm having a slow day and don't want a timed thing and just want something that's a little easier to do
>>29602602
DO IT

>>29602619
I will do it! but a little bit later

>>29602637
We can wait, I GUESS.

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haven't posted in one of these threads yet
but now I'm curious, how bad am I at drawing pone?

>>29602714
Did you mean to post this horizontally? You aren't that bad really. Let me fix the perspective before I C&C

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>>29602714
Okay is this about what it should look like?

>>29602748
yes
I forgot to change the angle on the pic, my bad

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>>29602757
It's cool. So I did my best to keep with your style, but most of your problems lie with joints and equal length stuff

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>>29602789
pone legs are hard to draw for me
pic related

>>29602923
I actually drew front arms like that when I first started so I wouldn't worry too much. You just have to practice and correct your mistakes. The best tutorials are here: http://imgur.com/a/m7zQ2
This gallery is how I learned to draw ponies, so I think it works pretty well.

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>>29602605
>>29602611
Goooood enough

>>29595482
you could improve this by increasing rthe range of lights on spitfire, you can use a mask for that purpose

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>>29603031
Should I do like a tutorial on the easiest way to use the palette colors only? Like how I did >>29602964
or pic related? I made a video on one of them but it didn't come out as easy as I thought it would: https://youtu.be/QU7_0e3pkDA

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>>29602602
>>29602676
You don't even know how much I wanted to do this.

>>29603475
I think her thighs should be thicker. I would have also chosen a pose that shows her torso as well because that would help you realize "woah them hips is huge" rather than having to guessing because you can't see them
>>29603503
Is this a drawing or an episode I can't remember?

>>29603726
I can always do a second drawing. I kinda like this one. It was like, you know... I did the first line and then everything was an impulse. This here and this here and boom. It was not even an idea or a concept.

>>29603726
No yeah taht's a drawing, it's just convincing

>>29603752
No yeah it's a great drawing, I just don't think it gets the idea across. I'm going to draw a really quick shitty sketch to show you what I was thinking of

>>29603767
I know what you mean. But I'll appreciate any idea. My mind is kinda empty right now.

>>29603787
I mean "and" not "but". What the...

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>>29603787
So I basically just moved your butt/hips/backlegs to the right so you can see the front and stomach of the pony and you can tell a little easier. On yours though I forgot to mention that her head was a little too big

>>29603849
About head. I just fixed it before you posted. I always do like 15-30 minute break after I "finish" and then look at it again. This head was huge!

Yeah. That's nice. I'll move this a little.

>>29603896
One great way to see things you didn't before is flipping them horizontally or vertically. And I'd love to see your improvement :)

>>29603916
Is there an easy way to do that when drawing with pencils?

Hmm... First thing I thought of is making a photo with smartphone and fliping it there.

>>29603980
>>29603984
I should go to sleep...

>>29603980
>>29603989
You could hold it up to a window backwards and that could help (you could also use a white computer screen and it'lll show you the drawing backwards)
>>29603984
That's what I do if I'm doing traditional media. If you go to bed, goodnight

>>29603427
sure, why not

>>29587906
iron dice

>>29587913
crystal dice

>>29604156
Alright I'll start that tonight then

>>29603031
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are saying. ;_;

>>29587906
Just gonna do a palette only challenge, maybe OC maybe not

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>>29604168
>>29604176
thoughts?

>>29604732
Very interesting shading, indeed. Do you mind if I redline this? I'm sure you have a "style" like everyone does but there are a few things that aren't style and are bad anatomy. I do like how you used the colors though!

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>>29604732
I'm sorry, but I really had to go in there because your anatomy was just so off. Her muzzle was too pointy (horse's or real life pony's noses are very round and smooth), her limbs were way too long, her lower half of her legs were too long and too thick, and there were a few smaller things I had to fix too. I'm fairly sure the part that made this difficult is because you painted it and probably didn't use an anatomy sketch under it

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>>29604745
Sure, go ahead m8 . =) On my defence my "style" generally is a bit more conventional than that, but since I'm super slow to draw I tried to make everything quick (for my standards) so that I wouldn't spend more than 30 minutes from start to finish as the challenge requests.

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>>29588010
>>29588014
Tried a lot of things I don't usually do with my art
Thoughts?

>>29587906
rolling

>>29604952
Fuck I hate posting on mobile.

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>>29604820
Thanks for taking the time to make a redline for my drawing :P. I guess at the time I was going for something more "cartoonish"/"warped" than the actual pony shape in order to get something done faster. And don't worry, there's nothing to be sorry about. ;)

btw, I like your rounded style!

>>29604904
it's looking great, you're nailing the minimalistic style.
>>29604960
>>29604952
sorry, my neck is not happy about this position.

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>>29604952 (baleeted)
>>29605016


Let's try again.

Here's something I started a week ago but lack the motivation to finish. What am I doing wrong? Does she look too ayylmao? Yes I know the tail is fucked. This is my second time seriously attempting poni.

Why is it always so hard to draw emotive pony faces?

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>>29604858
>30 minutes
Oh I didn't know you were doing that but that explains some of it. Also this is the best of the three drawings you've shown me by a long shot. The colors are great and the anatomy is a lot better than the other two.
>>29604998
That Rarity looks a lot better, but you've still got some problems. I'd redline that if you wanted me to, but I have a feeling you don't, which is fine. And you're welcome; redlines don't take long for me and I usually finish before a person even has time to answer. Th-thanks for liking my style, haha
>>29604904
This is what I wanted people to do with the palettes; substituting the obvious colors with less obvious choices! I think your palette usage was a great success!
>>29605053
If this is only your second pony, that's pretty good. I -could- redline it if you want, but I feel like at this early in the game you should be looking at the tutorials in this gallery: http://imgur.com/a/m7zQ2 , specifically (PS this goes for anyone with anatomy trouble!):
For body parts proportional to each other: http://i.imgur.com/UwSIQXy.jpg
On how to use joints: http://i.imgur.com/5PK2mhp.jpg
On understanding what parts are what compared to a human's: http://i.imgur.com/9vMkfQV.png
General anatomy: http://i.imgur.com/9c5t6gg.png
You can find a lot more in there too!
>yes I know the tail is fucked
To be fair, until you master it, her hair is ridiculously difficult.
>>29605128
Not for me but i've drawn comic strips for over 10 years. If you're having trouble, I suggest this exercise: http://i.imgur.com/LxD1tG8.jpg And if others are having trouble with it, you can do it too. Pic related are some more great examples.

Anyone replying to this post, please let me know which post number you are, thanks!

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>>29605053
Here's my attempt.

>>29605167
The face looks a lot better, gj, but the body needs work. If you like, you can fix that too unless you'd like me to finish that off

>>29604904
That is a very interesting piece! I love how you made the shade.

Should I be worried if I'm getting frustrated at drawing something to the point where I feel like I'm going to have a stroke?

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>>29605016
>>29605146
>>29605183
Thanks.
I've sorta worked with limited palettes before with pixel art, but I wasn't sure how well it would translate over to normal drawings.

>>29605225
Nah

>>29605146
>>29604998
>>29604858
I was not lying when I said I appreciated your help, I just wanted you to know that I was trying to be fast rather than accurate as it is something I struggle a lot sometimes when painting. Said that, I really appreciate well intended advice like yours as it helps me to get better, so I'd be glad if you made another redline for that rarity of mine buddy.

>>29605174
I'm not sure who am I answering here, but I can try to change some things there too after I get some dinner.

>>29605174
>>29605292
Of course it would be great if you tried to fix that while I'm gone.

>>29605233
front legs are too long

>>29605292
This >>29605146 and >>29605174 are me. I'm glad I'm helping you and you appreciate it and of course I'll redline your Rarity.
>>29605303
>gone
Gone?

>>29605292
>>29605303
Wait which Rarity is which? Are you both(?) asking me for redlines? Fuck, please help me, haha

>>29605308
Yeah, I think I put the body too far away from the head.

>>29604732
>>29604858
>>29604998
>>29605016
>>29605167
>>29605292
>>29605303
Those are me.

>>29605539
>>29605167
>>29605344

this rarity is not mine btw , it was my attempt to to correct a few things in OP's drawing with photoshop.

>>29605539
>>29605551
This was the Rarity I was going to fix but I can do yours too

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>>29605539
So I tried not to have to draw all over it but I couldn't help it, sorry.

>>29605589
haha, It's interesting to see how the same drawing can be solved in different ways and styles, I like specially the bits in the hair.

it's past midnight where I live, so I don't think I'll keep having the time to keep editing >>29605053 any further
as I did in >>29605167
but I bet you will fix it just fine.
G night, and thanks for the help m8!

>>29605651
I might do it tomorrow as I'm going to bed in an hour myself but goodnight!

>>29605146
Do you have a blank template for the expressions exercise?

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>>29600989
color roll

>>29587906
Hard Mode 1b

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>>29605981
Here you go! I didn't make it (obviously) but it's pretty fun and useful.
>>29606294
>PONY
>My husbando
I like where this is going.
>>29606379
>>29606380
>>29606384
Yeah I'm sorry, I didn't realize the pony chart would be so shitty :/ and I don't know about a newer, better one. If anyone CAN find or make an up to date one I'll draw you something

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>>29605981
Also here's a couple expressions I did myself a year or two ago. I should redo it and finish it but I'm a lazy piece of shit

Would you guys be interested in an expressions chart for the 4th Challenge? I'd make my own so I could choose the best ones and also make it easy/medium/hard mode by separating the easier and harder expressions from top to bottom, etc. Also, feel free to reply to this with your own ideas for the 4th Challenge; I have a lot of my own but I want to hear from you guys!

>>29587906
OC mode

>>29606906
This is not the file I was looking for.

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>>29606427 (You)
So this chart is going to be medium mode, and the pic related will be easy mode and I'll post hard mode in a minute

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>>29606968 Easy Mode
>>29606427 Medium Mode
Pic related: Hard Mode

>>29606427
>>My husbando

That's Steven Magnet.

>>29607304
I don't know who that is nor do I know why that matters. I was talking about Discord, not the artist (I assume)

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>>29607319

The sea serpent from the 2nd episode is Steven Magnet.

>>29607328
Oh fuck you're right. Look, I have a cataract and from 16" away from the screen I have double vision etc etc :T Thank you for telling my blind ass

boop

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Is there any improvement going on here or am I actually getting worse? 2017 is only RD because I was trying to do a comic for that RD is unattractive thread and didn't like how it was coming out and just turned it into practice of sorts.

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>>29608131
I don't want to say /worse/, but it's different. Have you been drawing ponies /correctly/ for the last 2 years? Because I would assume you'd improve. I myself gotgudder because I used the pony imgur gallery in the OP here: http://imgur.com/a/m7zQ2
Pic related is my improvement with help from this gallery. Also, would you like some redlines to see what you're doing wrong?

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>>29608131
Also your canvas is ridiculously large and your lines are almost invisible so I fixed that

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>all these anons drawing ponies
I just want to get back into drawing Discord and drawing in general. Maybe you have use of this little note I made for rehabilitation. If I don't drop this, I'll do and share more soon. Or not. I don't care. If you do, however, I might be arsed into actually scanning them and doing a sorta tutorial for this general.
Be warned, I didn't resize the photo and all.

>>29608530
Pllleeaseee make your canvas smaller and turn it so we don't have to put it in photoshop just to look at it

>>29608583
My phone does not support such high technology. Don't worry, pictures to come will be properly scanned and resized on a PC. I just posted like this to go to sleep with a clear mind.

>>29608610
When you wake I'll help you, kay?

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>>29608217
I did my best not to just redraw everything but there were a lot more errors than I realized when I started trying to fix things. You really need to study anatomy and toss out your "style" for a while because it's getting in the way of you getting better.
Tutorial gallery: http://imgur.com/a/m7zQ2

>>29608772
Elements of Drawing unite! Give me power and strenght to finish my work!
Also bump.

>>29609472
I didn't mean to reply. It just happend by it's own. Strange.

>>29609472
Best I can do is a +1 power Powerglove and a +2 strength DBZ decorated pair of boxers.

>>29608772
damn, I kinda thought I actually had some understanding of pony anatomy and I've actually been wondering if the way I draw snouts was a good way to about it and now I know that is something else I need to work on. Thanks man.

>>29587906
roll 1

>>29587913
roll 2

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This challenge is killing me
I'll just study and try not to kill myself

>>29610400
Just do it. The worst that can happen is that you make ONE bad drawing. You grow and move on. If your coloring is bad then just blame it on the palette.

If you're not used to making mistakes and learning from them by now then you're not drawing enough.

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Is this a good design?
Are the proportions ok?

>>29609604
I mean you have SOME understanding but it's not as good as you think it is maybe? I really hate having to say shit like this, but go dick around in the Imgur Pony Galerry in the OP
>>29610939
I don't much care for the design but she needs a thicker tale and mane. Her hind legs need to be separated from each other and the, I don't know, knee? needs fixed too as it's a bit broken. The front arm farthest to us needs to be further from the other arm or it's going to keep looking like she's on a tightrope. The face is good though. Sorry this is so critical, sometimes I just get real critique-y

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http://br-david.deviantart.com/art/Pony-running-vector-animation-289840562
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Twilight_Sparkle_running_S01E01.png

>>29611384
Front arm too long, face too square.

>>29611448
Hmm, you're right. I tried to base the leg length on the size of the head, but I forgot to account for the fact that the leg is somewhat diagonal.

>>29611662
> I tried to base the leg length on the size of the head
Honestly I couldn't tell you how to measure the lengths of the limbs properly because I just do it by memory :S I assume you're using the tutorials for it? There's one that bases lengths of stuff on hooves.

>>29587906
Just palette roll

>>29587906
reroll

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Back with another pic. The legs still seem a little off.
Excuse the sketchyness

>>29611758
I'ma redine this. It's not horrible or anything but there are def problems
>>29611762
Dude that's awesome

>>29611787
thanks senpai
i have to do more of these. it was fun to challenge myself and work with such a limited gamut. thanks a lot for the palette sheet!

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>>29592236
>>29592222
>>29592217
>>29587906
Sorry that this took so long, but I got distracted and was sketching other things. Gotta say, looks like a bad sunburn.

>>29611890
>>29587906
Palette was #36, btw.

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>>29611758
Ah jeez I'm sorry but there was so much off that I went a little overboard :B
>>29611845
Oh, please do! It looks fun and lovely
>>29611890
Oh man I was waiting for this! I love those colors. She reminds me of rainbow sherbet. You have to do more, IT ~

>>29611982
thanks for the help, it was my first time doing a butt-view pic so I didn't know how to handle the angle.

>>29611994
Oh, that explains it, hah. But for your first time it wasn't horrible. There's a great butts tutorial in the Imgur Pony Gallery here: http://i.imgur.com/rDBZSWV.png
Includes gentalia: http://i.imgur.com/UfLSTyE.jpg (NSFW)

http://imgur.com/a/m7zQ2 And this is just the whole gallery.

>>29612036
Yes, yes. Very good. I'll have to try again soon at drawing some nice and perky pone butts

>>29611982
Hey, thanks! Will do, appreciate your work in this thread.

>>29611762
>>29587906
rollin' for tomorrow

>>29611762
Don't draw anthro, dumbass.

>>29612364
It looks good, though.

>>29612364
try and stop me

>>29612427
no.
>>29612467
enjoy befriending edgy trump supporters at altfurry then!
no, seriously,don't.

>>29612479
you do realise that you're the one being edgy here, right?

Do any anons of you anons use Clip Studio Paint?
If you do would you mind giving me a rundown of the settings you use to draw ponies?

>>29612530
okay then let's see if you draw more anthro, shithead!

>>29612563
that's my intention. humanized is also a possibility, given that my palette roll for tomorrow (#86) is a decent skintone.

>>29612591
You will be reported because it's against the rules.
It's also not really welcomed by the community ( anthros are kind of cancer desu)
You sure know how to shade but it gives you the illusion of being good.

>>29612605
that's cool, i guess i'll just draw full human/eqg instead. that's what i want to practice anyway.

Is it only me or Fluttershy is hard to shade... I can't choose a propel shade values for her. Like for Twilight I go for blueish and reddish purples with Fluttershy everything looks bad in my eyes. Even when I look at refs I still cannot do it properly on her. Can I get some tips please. It hurts me a lot.

>>29612920
I can into values. Post it. Got tabletops tonight but I should be able to give you a paintover when a break comes around.

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>>29613408
I deleted every attemp I tried on her. I just can't pick right values. this is flutters color. From where should I pick colors for her without any fancy lights.

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>>29613478
highlight with an almost white teal and shade with an oranger, darker yellow; pic related is my attempt

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>>29612920
>>29613408
>>29613478
Also I had some line-art coloring pages and R colored Fluttershy like this

>>29612537
No, I'm sorry I can't help you with that. But if you get your hands on Sai or Photoshop we can definitely help you. You can get both for free if you know where to look
>>29612635
>>29612591
>>29612530
no feeding

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>>29612920
It's not you, Fluttershy is pretty hard to shade, and it has to do with her original color being so gosh darn bright. You're going to find that a lot of artists have ended up with a darker and more orange color as the local color of her coat. That's not a bad thing; that's good adaptation. Colors change depending on the lighting.

Here's my attempts on two different cases where I've tried to account for the colors of the surrounding lights as well. In the bottom one, I use Fluttershy's original coat color as that brightest highlight color.

>>29613734
>In the bottom one, I use Fluttershy's original coat color as that brightest highlight color.
Yeah that looks real great for her coat. The top one looks like you shaded with black or a black-yellow? I could not bring myself to use that color to shade with but that might just be me (Sorry).

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>>29613794
I used a slightly darker, slightly greener yellow. It's what would happen with a bright blue sky, I think. but yeah, it's a weird color to shade with. It feels like it's very easy to take it too far, but also not to take it far enough.

>>29613734
Thanks for that! I think I'll try to make her a little darker. Now that you mentioniend that when I see pictures of her a lot use darker orange hue.
What I did now looks like she's dirty.

>>29613826
I also might try to do it on overlay but I've never done that.

>>29613825
Honestly I'd never shade yellow with a green unless yellow is a highlight to green because I hate those colors together, haha. I'm a terrible artist.
>>29613826
>>29613880
Can I see what she looks like right now?

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>>29613911
Nah, you're not at fault when it almost always looks better to shade yellow with orange.

>>29614084
That's the way I'd go, totally. You could even throw a little light blue low light in dere.

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>>29613911
Hmm... Maybe. It is very raw. Only booty is shaded. Now I realized how big I've made it but I like it.
I almost forgot! Before I do too much can you tell me if rest of the body is ok? I feel like it is off. Also I don't know how to place wing there. I know it should be visible.
Oh, and the flowers on her stockings and hair will be reworked because now they are very poorly made.

>>29614115
Yeah I can fix that I think. That hoof looks kind of weird but I know it's the pose

>>29614115
I want to send you the .PSD when I'm done so you can see what I did with the layers. Can you open a .PSD?

>>29614145
Nah. I had PS but wiped out disk and now I don't have it. Can you save in something sai can open?

>>29614176
Sai can open .PSD

>>29614215
Oh it can? I believe I couldnt do it when I've tried month ago. Hmm...

>>29614234
Everyone I know with Sai has been able to. You might have to use like, "import"

>>29614278
I remeber now. I was trying to open sai in ps. That is immposible. psd in sai is. Sorry for confusion.

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>>29614115
yooo, that is some sweet flutterbutt!
I kinda unlawfully borrowed your piece for some personal practice, but I think I'm actually gonna post it. I constantly have to remind myself to try and push for more contrast and saturation, and I think you could benefit from sharing that reminder with me.

It's so much easier to apply it to others art then your own, though.

>>29614318
I have a huge problem with saturation and contrast. That's what I am trying to learn. But I think left is to much orange.

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>>29614318
I think that yellow is too saturated; if you turn down the saturation I think it'd be good. Here's mine (I got distracted, sorry)
>>29614338
Here's mine. I don't know where to post a .PSD though. I used an overlay for the shadows and I added a little highlight with the light blue

>>29614338
>>29614347
Or maybe you just haven't realised how golden Fluttershy's ass is??

In all seriousness, that's good to hear, maybe I'm ready to try less now!

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Drew my first art.
It's not good, but it's mine.

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>>29614372
>>29614338
Um well I was going by the coat color anon chose. But after seeing yours I tried to fix mine a bit

>>29614347
So I'll try to play with filters and overlays a little. If it doesn't work I'll do it again. Basicly I should choose from more orange hues rather then dirty yellows. Makes sense.
Also, what with the body. You told you might do something with it.
But I am happy that beside colour error I made the right shape.

>>29614347
>I don't know where to post a .PSD though.
https://mixtape.moe/

>>29614385
>>29614387
So I should go for golden flutter? Well, a lot of artist make her goldish. It's a nice colour.

>>29614387
>Also, what with the body. You told you might do something with it.
Wat? Are you asking what to do with the rest of the body? I can paint that
>>29614393
Thanks!

>>29614404
Nah, not paint. I know how to paint now when I know colors. The shape. Is it ok?

>>29614401
https://my.mixtape.moe/kyyhse.psd
Okay this has all muh layers on the newer, better color : https://my.mixtape.moe/kyyhse.psd
>>29614410
Oh the shape. It's mostly fine but you forgot her wings and I still think that hoof is weird because it's hidden behind the leg. Also her head/mane should be a bit smaller due to perspective

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Haven't drawn a lot lately, decided to do this yesterday and finished it around an hour ago.
never been good with wings at all, but I'm really happy how these came out, though I feel like the shading could use some practice still.

>>29614447
this eye under hair look creepy for me. Wing looks good but wings doesn't grow from middle of the back. I can't describe where they grow but just closer to front leg(?).
Also shading is fine.

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>>29614401
Always go with what you think looks the best.

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>>29614529
This is STILL too saturated. Look at her coat; it's not bright yellow like that, so I took yours and desaturated it a little bit and made it lighter because, again, it's not a full on yellow, it's a light yellow.

>>29614583
I have never made a more famous booty than this!

>>29614524
That's fair, took a look at some images after you replied and I can see what you mean about the placement, will have to remember that next time i practice wings, thanks.
As for the eye thing, it's just something i've done for the majority of doing art, I dont really like obstructing the eyes because I felt like I wasn't able to get the facial expressions across when I did hide the eyes, though I could've just as easily changed the way I did manes I suppose.

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>>29614524
I agree, the eye on the right is the only thing that bothers me. It could easily get sized down to cover up part of the iris and making it look less wide eyed.

>>29614583
Fugg, you're right. Looks like I gotta git guder.

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>>29614447
There were a few things needed to be fixed other than the perspective on the eyes. The hair is especially far too big on her hair and the shoulders should not be that, uh, "sticky-outty".
>>29614637
>Fugg, you're right. Looks like I gotta git guder.
Like I don't normally try to argue with people trying to help, but it needs to be as accurate help as possible, so I'm sorry I had to do that.

>>29614635
Everyone prefers other things. I just don't like art with eye lines being visible trough hair overall.
But you make a very cute looking pone. If you are bored or don't know what to draw you can draw Twilight for me. :3

>>29614650
ayy, i wouldn't post in this thread if i wasn't prepared to get critique myself.

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>>29614637
I can really see what you mean about the eye, was admittedly having issues with the Iris but couldn't really figure out why

>>29614650
The mane thing makes sense, as do the shoulders, The shoulder thing was something I picked up from another artist desu, should probably get out of that habbit.

>>29614655
aye, it's all just style preferences in the end of it, and thank you, if I get the chance to I'd love to, though admittedly Twilight is a pony who's mane I REALLY struggle with

Also here's the sketch layer if that helps with things.
Thank you all for the feedback

>>29614745
ayy. Twilight's mane looks so easy but when it comes to drawing it it's a nightmare. I know a lot about it as Twilight is main character of my drawings and sketches.

>>29614745
>>29614771

>twi's mane is hard

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

>>29614745
MUCH better! Also yeah Twilight's mane sucks. It's more difficult that Rarity's tail

>>29614771
I've done a few twilight drawings for a good friend of mine in the past, but I always tend to draw her a little bit differently each time.
http://imgur.com/a/OkSOV

>>29614803
>Twilight in socks.
And suddenly I feel better. (I am a little ill)

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>>29608617
I've drawn this for you, unexpectedly friendly anon. Being so happy about actually getting to draw something, I did not consider putting some thought into arm placement _before_ rendering half of it. And I still need to grind my fundies, anyway.
Hopefully, I'll move people to try and draw Discord as well. He's too cute.

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>>29614745
Hey all.
I'm that one faggot who was trying to draw Super Saiyan Anon. Still am.

So right now, I have worked out a very retarded and overly complex system of drawing figures involving two pieces of paper.

So what I'm doing is, I'm trying to draw out the line art on a piece of paper, and when I draw say, the head in a way I like, I'll trace that head on the other sheet through the paper, and then I'll keep adding onto it...

It's fucking kinda chaotic and weird.

Pic related, I guess you can kinda see what I'm doing?

I'm having trouble trying to figure out how to draw heads. I can't seem to decide on a good reference. I figure if I just draw the shit I want piece by piece, I can slowly etch out a complete picture. But it just takes so long this way.

Maybe I'm overthinking it?

>>29614842
Oh hell this arm is truely off the place.
But think about it. He's Discord so this arm can be just summoned and not his.

>>29614894
Didn't mean to quote that post, sorry.

>>29614894
Don't do this. Just draw circles and turn them into heads.

>>29614894
Maybe you should use clear paper and why are you drawing this so tiny. I know small things are easier but on the other hand it's harde to put details.

>>29614923
Dunno, I'm kind of just afraid of drawing shit too big. I don't know why.

>>29614899
I know just how out of place it is, yet scrapping it completely would have killed the mood of it.
The next one will definitely enjoy more constructive planning beforehand.
I hope you like it as flawed as it is. Sorta portrays the character.

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>>29614842

I'm reminded of this only Discord is being punched by someone off screen.

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>>29614946

Wat. that's not what i meant at all.

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>>29614745
>>29614786
Did have a large number of sketches done before i chose who to draw, mostly canon ponies, few of my ocs, and some friends too. chose flitter in the end because I liked the wings and wanted to flesh them out

>>29614842
Hahaha oh man, thanks. I don't care about the arm, its a gift and a gift for me~ Thank you a lot; it was very sweet of you~
>unexpectedly friendly anon
I mean it's not unexpectedly? I kind of run the show here but even if I didn't I'd be friendly because I believe you can make people get better with a good attitude, ya know? But you grind those fundies and YES move people to draw Discord 8)
Oh, and >>29614899 isn't me, if you weren't sure.
>>29614935
I love it no matter what so who cares
>>29614894
My buddy, you are way over thinking this. I hate promoting my videos, but here's one of how I draw a pony because I think it'll help you figure out what to draw first and shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsLRrEb78QU
>>29614923
*Tracing paper
>>29614984
Dude that's a lot, haha. I mean I've never drawn and saved each sketch like that; didn't even know it was a thing people do

>>29615045
thank you friendlyo.

>>29614984
I want to get this good.
Like, I don't want to be drawing some fucking amazing Zone-tier shit that I can patreon, I just want to fucking draw decently to wear you can recognize what I was trying to do and see if I accomplished it to some degree or not. I don't care about monetizing my '''art''', I just am doing this as a hobby.

I'm still drawing though like an hour to two hours a day though, been doing it for the past week, and I've made some progress, but I feel like I keep undoing it by overthinking it like I have been doing.

Also speaking of overthinking, do you guys draw the X as a guideline for your circles, or do you just draw the circle? Should I just keep doing the whole 'use crosses as guides' until I get the muscle memory down?

>>29615045
I tend to save everything I ever draw, never know when I might go through my files and see something I want to redo or change up.
And to be honest, there was only that many drawn because I was really indecisive last night and didn't know who I wanted to draw.

>>29615075
"I'm still drawing though like an hour to two hours a day though"

God I wish I could get back onto a regular schedule like that again

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>>29614946
>>29614949

>>29615097
Sometimes I only draw for 30 minutes, but right now I have a schedule where when I lay down for 'sleep', I bring a notebook with me, and a few pencils, and my Kindle, and I just go under my sheets and I just lay there for about an hour or so just drawing shit and occasionally looking things up as reference. It works pretty ok for me. I used to do the same for when I was learning programming.

Maybe you could try that if you have a laptop or a Kindle? But I probably would suggest against it if you have a sleep schedule you want to preserve. I always wake up the same time every day: 10:30 AM, but I go to bed at fucking 2 in the morning because of the shit I do regarding my bed schedule.

I lay down at about 11 PM or so, and just browse /x/ and draw and shit until I finally get too exhausted to continue.

>>29615151
I could try bringing a sketchpad and a pencil to bed with me I guess, that's always an idea, though I'm so used to the hand eye disconnect that my tablet gives me I'm a little worried about it :'^)
Also I think my sleep schedule is pretty healthy - Sleeping at 6am, waking up at 2pm, that's good right?.... right? :''''''''''''''''''^)

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>>29615045
Do you use a mouse for digital art? I'd like to do digital art at some point but right now I can only stick to walmart paper and pencils and pens because poorshit.

Pic related is the most 'fanciest' pen I have, it was $9, and it's in black. Honestly I like it, it feels smooth and slick, but I've been mostly using pencils.

I don't have the money for an expensive Waco thingy with magic digital pen. :(

>>29615045
Do you have anything like the video you posted only in traditional art? Like pencil paper? Are the techniques employed doing digital art much more different than traditional art techniques? I think maybe I keep trying to replicate what I see digital artists do only I am doing it traditionally which might fuck me. I don't know. Perhaps it'd be better to just forget everything I know and start over.

>>29615190
I use a medium Wacom Intuous Pro, but that doesn't mean I can't do traditional media (especially if I'm in a lecture). Pic related is marker and pen for the Challenge #1 I held a couple weeks ago. I really do love my tablet though. For 5 or 6 years I used a Bamboo Fun (the smallest Wacom available) and it was great and cost $70-80 - which is cheap to me, but it could be extremely expensive to others, and I understand that

Anyway, I believe you can do great things with any medium you choose or are forced to use due to whatever problems you can't fix. Also that's not a great pen for drawing. It will definitely smear if you erase your pencil underneath and you cannot color it. You should get Micron pens or other pens that will not smear nor leak into the colors (you can google this). They're like $3 dollars each or something.
>>29615274
Unfortunately the only traditional medium (paper and charcoal) I have is this one of a 2 minute gesture. It was very hard to film because I don't have anything to hold my phone up to record it, but it could help you, I'm not sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q19LG6dwymo
Yes the techniques are different because digital is the absolutely most forgiving medium. I can try my fuckin darndest to record how I draw a pony on paper and pencil for you though some time today. I think I can tape my phone to my desk lamp or something

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I want to draw a pose like this, but the leg is all... fucked up. Does anyone have a better reference?

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>>29613498
kek. Forgot about this. Wow that was a while ago. I did a session related sketch during my break. Guess I'll post it because there is a pegasus in it. When in doubt about values just get rid of color and it becomes easier to think about.

I photobashed that older sketch into the background :^) Here we go art police.

>>29613734
Good stuff. Though for the top one the shadow would be a kind of lesser desaturation and blueish from the diffused atmospheric light from the sky.

>>29615366
I'll draw a leg for you over it so you don't have to find a better reference.
>>29615373
Faaaaantastic

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>>29615366
#66, one penis leg

>>29615045
Wow, you video taught me a lot!
Thanks!

>>29615438
>>Wow, you video taught me a lot!
Really? That's great! I have like 10 or so videos on that account if you wanna watch those too. I still plan on doing a video on pencil and paper pony though

>>29615465
I'll check them out!
I'm just starting out, so I appreciate all the help I can get.

Mine, by the way
>>29614379

>>29615483
Ah shoot I forgot to get back to that drawing because I was arguing over a yellow ass. I have to head out for a bit, but feel free to watch the rest of them.

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>>29615045
I'm not native to this board and browsed some /ic/ for artbooks recently. That much for my surprise to find a positive art community.
I've seen your thread by chance once and I'm glad you keep up running this, redliner. Count on me to keep on drawing Discord. Been loving him since the fateful day 'the Return of Harmony (part 2)' aired.

>>29615274
As for sketching, it's pretty much the same, except for the inability to hide layers and the resulting need to do less mistakes. However, this 'handicap' can teach you to put more love and thought into each stroke and make you more efficient, be it on paper or digital.

As for coloring, it's a waste of time trying to copy the official artstyle with colored pencils. The paper's natural texture will always look wrong (to me, atleast). Cell shading on paper only works with markers, yet those are expensive.
Once again, digital is different because of layers and transparency and the possibility to edit or erase anything. The way forme, volume perspective and light work is the same in any medium. Ways of creating the illusion of light are countless. Therefore, look up how to make good use of the tools you own. Experiment with those, google about it, experiment more.

Pic related was made with cheap colored pencils, a set of 36 colors sold for 2 or 3 bucks (Aldi). To have some texture on the shell, I actually scratched lines into my paper (sgrafitti)! Digital would have to employ other tricks to do the texture. Just hang in there, you see.

>>29615604
>That much for my surprise to find a positive art community.
That's why I do my best for this thread to be absolutely welcoming to anyone that wants to help me or be helped. I figure, if you can find a 4chan thread that actually makes you feel happy when you leave, you'll do much better work. Plus I'm just not a mean person and I love helping people and I'm thinking of becoming an art teacher and making LOADSAMONEY (ha).
>I've seen your thread by chance once and I'm glad you keep up running this, redliner.
I always feel bad when the thread isn't around, but sometimes I have a life, unfortunately.
>Count on me to keep on drawing Discord. Been loving him since the fateful day 'the Return of Harmony (part 2)' aired.
God me too. Plus John de Lancie voicing him? Oh. Man. But we can share him :)

Pastels are a pain in the ass to work with.

>>29615841
I couldn't even help you with that. I can do markers, charcoal, pencil, colored pencil, water color, and water color pencils but never do pastels :/

>>29615868
It's effectively painting, but you're using special pencils instead of paint and a brush.

And it's beyond frustrating. I'm thinking about switching back to colored pencils.

>>29615905
And on that note, would anyone happen to have any tips for drawing fog or mist with colored pencils?

>>29615905
Yup. They are smudgy as hell. I don't get them and their appeal, either.

>>29615706
I live in a country where most people will only know his dubbed voice. Scary.

I think you'd be a good teacher as you appear really passionate.. How long have you studied art so far? Just curious. Sometimes I regret not having studied my fundies years ago. I loved drawing so much. But disappointed and overwhelmed with life, I turned away from it. Still depressed and unhealthy as ever, I woke up yesterday and thought: I've no friends and no social life and I study something I don't like (I'll switch it). Might as well be a loner that's at least good at drawing. (I'm only 19 btw)

If you ever draw a snail, be warned the usual gestures and expressions do not apply to them. I had a snail like the one drawn for years, and I even I was puzzled about this.

>>29615962
I have no experience in drawing fog, but I can see well what's tricky about it. Fog blurs stuff, most of all, and blur is a pain to draw with colored pencils. Draw lightly in lots of layers... lots and lots of layers.

>>29616006
If you're only 19 then you still have a chance to make friends, at least in this little community. Show kindness and you will receive it back.

You're lucky if you're that young and are getting good at art. I didn't started until much later in my life and deeply regret it.

>>29615905
Oh, no, I mean I know how to use them and shit just not nearly as well as the rest I mentioned. And I'd switch back to colored pencils in a flash, haha.
>>29615962
Color the stuff that is going to be in fog with a lower opacity and use a grey over it. You should really google this though; I can't help you with that really
>>29616006
>Yup. They are smudgy as hell. I don't get them and their appeal, either.
And more expensive
>I think you'd be a good teacher as you appear really passionate...(etc)
Thanks, I'm pretty passionate about it, yeah. I'm 29 and I've taken art classes since I was 11 when I started private painting classes at some fancy shmancy ass place for a couple years.I've switched colleges a few times so I've had to take fundamentals classes 5 or 6 times now so I know that shit by heart. Luckily for you, art can be very therapeutic and I think you should try drawing again/more and learning the fundamentals better at your own pace, especially since you have no social life to worry about! Yeah so we have 10 years apart from each other and if you start drawing now, maybe you can catch up to us! And no I dont plan on drawing a snail.

Anyone got any good cum tutorials?

>>29616257
Yes, and it's in the Pony Imgur Gallery that apparently no one knows about.

>>29616274
There's a pony imgur gallery? :^)

>>29616279
No of course not. Why would I bring it up fifty times a thread /triggered
>>29616257
Gimme a minute I'm getting them

>>29616292
Fucking.. I didn't mean to post that

>>29616274
>http://imgur.com/a/m7zQ2
>scroll through the whole fuckhuge thing
>It's not there
Thanks for being a smart ass, there's some dick and vagoober tutorials but no cum tutorials.

>>29615373
>>29616006
>>29616163
This. I started seriously 3 years ago at 21 though my first year was me twiddling my dick figuring out how to learn. I'm not anywhere near where I want to be but as long as you're kind and are humble about asking for feedback. As well as know where you want to be in terms of skill level. You'll make a bee-line to great gains by the time you're 21. Maybe even sooner if you're a smart enough guy.

Won't be around to give feedback for a while. Going on a trip atm.

>>29616205
I was asking because I already googled it and I only got results for graphite pencils.

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>>29616257
I'm just going to post ALL the NSFW tutorials in the gallery - though I guess there -isn't- a cum one in that gallery, but I DID google for it, so:
Pony Gallery NSFW:
Penises: http://i.imgur.com/7z416Bn.png
http://i.imgur.com/mY3t01z.png
http://i.imgur.com/kstgpAS.png
Penetration: http://i.imgur.com/tEmRaUp.png
Vagina bits: http://i.imgur.com/oLbX7Wc.jpg
Cum tutorials: http://img14.deviantart.net/6272/i/2014/254/3/9/how_to_draw_white_liquid_by_hews_hack-d7yrv4u.png
Pic related is the one I use

>>29616299
Okay well I thought there was. Sometimes I'm wrong.

>>29616349
Ah there we go, that's a great tutorial, thank you very much.

>>29616348
Let me see if I can find some colored pencils around here. I have a big thing of Copic markers but that won't help. I'm going to try a few things. Can you show me what you have so far? Or are you not yet coloring it?
>>29616357
Honestly I just googled "how to draw cum" and they were in the image search area at the top.

>>29616348
Okay so do you have white acrylic paint, a white conte crayon, or a white pastel?

>>29616371
I'm not yet coloring it. Right now I'm inking in some lines.

>>29616406
I have:
A white pastel.
White India ink.
A white colored pencil.

>>29616429
Okay so if you just color the area normally without fog you can dilute the india ink (test it out before you put it on your real drawing) and use that. I'm going to test a few of these myself as quick as I can although I do not have white india ink

>>29616371
>Honestly I just googled "how to draw cum" and they were in the image search area at the top.
Really? Fuck. When I looked stuff up all the tutorials I came across were garbage hence why I came here and asked.

>>29616559
It's probably how you worded it but it's fine to come here for help, that's what this thread is for. I wasn't trying talk down to you earlier, I was just joking because of the amount of times people ask for a tutorial on X and it's in the gallery

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>>29616429
Okay so I quickly did a shitty little forest and tested all my supplies
1. Acrylic paint, diluted: This one is best, IMO. You just have to be a little careful or it'll be too white, so always start with diluted and make it lighter.
2. White and black water color pencil: This looks more like a cloud's shadow than fog
3. White gel pen: I could hardly use this over the damp paper and I would not recommend this.
4. B/W water color pencils + acrylic paint: This is second placet. Basically I did the same as I did in number 2 and then added diluted white acrylic paint to the top of the trees to make it more convincing and I think it looks really good.
I also tried a white charcoal pencil but you can't even see it so I didn't bother listing it. Hope this helps!

>>29616720
Oops I called two of them best and two fo them second best. What I typed is what I meant. The number 1, diluted acrylic paint, is the best one, IMO while B/W water color pencils + diluted acrylic is an extremely close second.

>>29616720
I'll let you know how using diluted white India ink goes.