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So what do you guys think? Should there be changes to the board?

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So what do you guys think?

Should there be changes to the board?
>>>/qa/668709
/co/ and /v/ are talking about it.
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>>28421262
No, its perfect
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I want the sticky to come back
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>>28421281
Don't forget to add a good picture to it

a wheel of salt
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>>28421262
Ban EQG into >>>/trash/. That's my only wish regarding this board.
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The only change we need is allow porn
Nothing more
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GR15 is cancer.

I don't even want to be making pony threads on every fucking board, I just want to be able to use pony reaction images without getting banned.

autismos crying about ponies are the ones who should be punished for being fascist anti-free speech pieces of shit, not us.
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>>28421281
>>28421291
i think we should post the last part of this image
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>>28421390

This

Its been 5 years of they at least give us pony reaction images then it'll destroy barneyfag

No longer would he shit up an entire thread to 404 because of pony
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>>28421354
lmao plead all you like, it'll never happen
it's equally valuable pony content and would hurt the board if it was removed whether you care or not
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Ban anti EQG posters
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>>28421390
>>28421400
GR15 is the only reason we have a board.
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>>28421394
Why can't this happen again? It was obviously civil and successful. It would not only benefit the board, but any mods that have to deal with us and our constant nagging too.
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>>28421446

Have you been to a thread where barneyfag appears
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>>28421481
By letting an autist troll get what he wants, he's actually winning.

Sadly bans won't work against someone with the cash for VPNs.
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>>28421490

God I wonder how.many fucking ips he's gone through
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>>28421498
enough to ban a small country.
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The board is fine for something based entirely on one show that's running out of stuff to talk about.
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>>28421390
G15 needs to stay, because if it fully went away, (meaning /mlp/ goes away) it would destroy other boards as we flood up /co/, /d/, whatever.

That being said, I do think the rule should be much relaxed. For example, I think it is ridiculous that no pony doll discussion is allowed on /toy/, even of the old gen. People used to collect the old gen stuff, and most of /toy/ approved of GoH, as they just saw them as good toys, not "REEE PONY". And I'm sure /co/ is going to be forced to watch the FiM movie, as it'll be the only non CGI animated movie released on the big screen in some time. So I'm sure many people want to see it for that reason.

So I think it should be regulated so most pony stuff is directed here, but small discussion is allowed on other boards where it fits.
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>>28421531
We can still have the board and get rid of the rule. The board would absorb most of the alleged shit Barneyfag and his ilk are paranoid about.
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>>28421535
It's fine as a patsy.

Also >>28421531 concerns, we're not as big a topic for /b/ to use anymore. We're 250 people at best, many of which aren't really trolls to the other boards.
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Remove rule15 and /mlp/ with it.
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Hiro will do nothing. /j/ can do whatever they want.
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>>28421354
Use filter, Luke.

Also use it to get rid of annoying CYOA's.

You will have from 30 to 60(on a bad day) hidden threads, but browsing this board will actually become enjoyable.
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>>28421394
>Non-English = ALLOWED
Zeit für Deutschfaden??
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>>28421616
>User was banned for this post.
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>>28421616
calm, my german comrade, those were banned after the /ya es hora/ CP incident
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>>28421628
>an entire range of different languages blasted off because a couple chicos weren't able to keep their gonhorrea infested gonads to themselves.
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>>28421262
I'm kinda scared to click on that thread and see how much cringe from autists are in that thread. Hiro seems like a chill guy.

Possibly a bit too chill, but still.
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>>28421446
Pokemon has a board and their reaction images aren't banned. Besides, even if there wasn't GR15 pony OPs would still be banned because the existence of /mlp/ means pony would be off-topic anywhere else.
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>>28421638
This is why we need to build the firewall.

Mexicans are objectively the worst posters.
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>hiro just being a useless little cute jap like always
watch as nothing will change
GR15 stays, banner stays, mods stay, it'll just be plenty of shitposting and no action, like it always is with hirohito
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>>28421680
You forgot to mention THIRD STAR
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>>28421480
I just don't get why there can't be a sticky with the current rules and disallowed threads or anything. It's clear since the second scruffening that there are new rules, but they're not being applied evenly, and the "no roleplaying/no non-show related" thing doesn't make sense in relation to what stays up and what gets deleted.

Even if the mod came and said "fuck you here are my rules", that'd be cool. At least it would be public knowledge.
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>>28421691
It's already public knowledge by common sense
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>>28421656
>not Australians
>not Finns
>not Brazilians
>not Americucks

Please anon.
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>>28421680
that's what happens when you give to someone from japan an american company
there's no control if the CEO has to cross an ocean
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>>28421703
>Implying murrkans wouldn't just look at it, sip at the black water they call 'coffee' and say "needs more clapping"
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>>28421714
what do you think? this is what the mods had been doing.
they did whatever they wanted, and when hiro felt like login, they only had to say "nah boss, the claims are just users angrily posting. we'll take care of it"
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>>28421702
Aussies at least have a sense of humor and are capable of having serious conversation

Ditto for Finngolians

Brazilians are aware of their being HUEHUEHUE monkies and can occasionally bring bantz

Burgers are so numerous and (I loathe to use this word) diverse that you can't make very accurate blanket statements

The only Mexican posts I've read were pure salt and shitposting. If Americans are the McDonald's of posting, Mexicans are the White Castle.
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>>28422041
>The only Mexican posts I've read were pure salt and shitposting.
Maybe that's because we're good at hiding our power level when not deliberately shitposting.
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>>28421423

ban both
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>>28421531
Can pictures with no ponies or pony characters be allowed on other boards? So most barneyfag bait would dissipate?
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>>28421262
>>28421281
We definitely need the sticky back, along with some info for fags new to the show and/or the board. It's nice to have someone new to pony make a thread not to ask "what's the appeal?" but because they are trying the show but we should be able to direct them to some page full of answers to commonly asked questions instead of having to spoonfeed them unwritten rules.
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>>28421262
>red board
>allow anthro
>ban humanized
>delete troll banners
>give me my vote back from the pony /sp/ banner that got deleted so I can vote on one that isn't deleted
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>>28422318
i only vote for allow anthro
there is some good SFW material in some pics
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>>28422318
>allow anthro
>ban humanized
Top bait.
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>>28421703
>that's what happens when you give to someone from japan an american company
>there's no control if the CEO has to cross an ocean

He made 2channel.
While studying in the US.
One of the biggest Japanese sites, dwarfing even 4chan, was controlled by him from his dorms in the US.

The thing is, he doesn't want to shit things up just like he was mostly hands-off with 2channel.
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Also which one of you autists was first to reply to Hiro with the banner situation? I don't know if I want to shoot you in the foot or hug you. I swear if it was you ks

>>28422390
Just how big a site was 2channel?
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>>28422390
moot created 4chan from his room while studying too, and he was extremely hands-off as well.
Sure the site got super big, but the quality took a nosedive.
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>>28422413
i think 2chan is pretty big but only in japan, since only japanese people can post there. any other country is banned

>>28422414
the only difference is moot was more "user-friendly" since he always tried to be in contact with his userbase.
hiro only talked when he took over the site, and then he was silent most of the time. now it's trying to leave by the backdoor saying we are the ones responsable for fucking up the site
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>>28422413
>Just how big a site was 2channel?
About an order of a magnitude bigger than 4chan.

It's still retardedly huge, though it's in a regression because of Hiro's actions (selling them out).
Basically almost everyone online in a country of 127 million visits that shit daily.
Compare that with 4chan's "measly" 250 000 people online on a good day.

They're a bit faster on the news and such. Basically a sped up version of us with a bajillion boards and no pictures.
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>>28422444
>the only difference is moot was more "user-friendly" since he always tried to be in contact with his userbase.
I'm sorry, what? moot never fucking spoke, he was absolutely terrible at communication. His policy was doing things in the background to not disturb the boards and not talking to the users.

This wasn't helped by the fact that whenever he said something the next minute the thread is overrun with 1000 shitposts.

>hiro only talked when he took over the site, and then he was silent most of the time. now it's trying to leave by the backdoor saying we are the ones responsable for fucking up the site
If anything hiro talks slightly more than moot, though it's not much better.
hiro tries to engage a little in the conversation and answer people, he just never takes any actions.
moot just replied to make jokes and answer some easy questions every other year.
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>>28421394
Is this what is referred to as "The Scruffening"?

>>28421390
>>28421400
>>28421446
GR15 isn't gonna change. We can whine and bitch all we want but the odds are against us. GR15 is what gives us /mlp/, and I think we should be happy that we even get a whole board to ourselves. The rest of 4chan despises horsefuckers.
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>Ask to delete GR15
>also /mlp/
>return to /co/
>be happy again
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Flags in /mlp/. Only that
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Why do people even want GR15 gone?

>>28422488
>Is this what is referred to as "The Scruffening"?
That's what happens when you only quarter-enforce a rule that let's people believe the rule never exists, then have to actually enforce it.
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>>28422546
>That's what happens when you only quarter-enforce a rule that let's people believe the rule never exists, then have to actually enforce it.
When page 2 is the last page because 8 other pages worth of threads have been deleted, you know there's a problem with the rules.
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>>28422544

This isn't /pol/
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>>28422546
So they can shitpost.
I kind of understand and I'm indifferent to this idea.
On one hand outside of /mlp/ most of my reaction folder is useless. It would also drive barneyfag to an hero.

On the other side removing GR15 makes /mlp/ useless. If you deleat GR15, you have to deleat /mlp/ and allow it back in /co/, and we don't want that.
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>>28422595

But how about we delete rule 15 and change /mlp/ to /cog/
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>>28422633
not a good idea
MPLG would be there, sure, but we would have SUG, TLHG, and even a barney general just to spite us
we just become /vg/, but with more hate between generals
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>>28422595
Or /mlp/ could stay, I don't understand why you insist /mlp/ would have to be deleted without GR15. All discussion and shitposting still goes here, you just won't be banned for posting a reaction image elsewhere.
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>>28422546
>Why do people even want GR15 gone?
Because it's a retarded and completely redundant rule that encourages the "ban anything I don't like" mindset that plagues the site.
>spamming
already against the rules
>avatar fagging
already against the rules
>shitposting
already against the rules
>making mlp threads outside the /mlp/ board
off topic, against the rules
>putting /mlpg/ back on /co/
/co/ already doesn't allow generals for shows that are off-season, /mlpg/ would only exist on /co/ for once a week for only a relatively small part of the year

The only change GR15 does is ban innocuously posting a certain genre of reaction image, which I think is absolutely ridiculous.
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>>28421656
too bad there's a wall small enough to build around your tiny dick
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>>28422413
I said this before in one of the other banner threads because someone else assumed I was the one bitching about it, but I am utterly indifferent toward the banner situation after mine lost by a huge margin.
Plus I missed out, or else I'd have suggested putting in whatever sticky that spoonfeeding (both asking for and doing) should be deleted and given a warning at least.
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>>28421262
>/mlp/
>getting anything but negative changes
pick 1.
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Why do you fags want to turn the board red?
It didn't work with /trash/. That place is very slow with the porn.
Just deal with the fact that the people that browse this fucking baord are all fucking normal scum that do so in their jobs or are ashamed of strangers seeing questionable shit (but somehow pony is fine as long as it is SFW, what the hell).
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>>28422546
I don't like this board or any threads on it, and want to show my love for my waifu. Anywhere's better than here, with these boring and unfunny "I claim my waifu/cuck/she's not real" posts. /mlp/ "waifu culture" is shit.
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>>28422846
>but somehow pony is fine as long as it is SFW, what the hell
This desu. How in the fuck do you get a job where browsing 4chan and /mlp/ is okay, but NSFW content is not.
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>>28421262
BAN NYX
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>>28422856
The answer is a gun is ponychan or hugboxers probably.
I thought it was bullshit, but now it seems that lurkers are all fucking hugboxers and they get triggered by muh porn.
Making the board red could save the quality of posting, since only the anons that are what we want here (real horsefuckers, not wanna be that just want a stupid hugbox and to fit in that hate gore and all that questionable shit). The downside is that maybe it will slow down the board way too much.
But who knows, maybe this way we regain our reputation of not family friendly site.
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>>28422852
>Boring and unfunny "she's not real" posts.
It's not really a joke when it's reminding you of reality.
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>>28422910
>>28422852
It is probably anons that are pessimist as fuck or those fags that hate the board so much.
No matter where you go, you will find people that want to piss you off all over the net, unless you make your literal safe space.
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>>28422896
I'm really torn on that issue. Sure, I wouldn't mind seeing some horse pussy and weeding out some of the eqd fags and kids. On the other hand I'm afraid it will also lead to a lot of anthro shitposting and all the porn dump generals would be just another thing to filter. If I wanna have a fap I'll take my stash or check derpi where I can actually search for stuff. If you're drawing something nsfw you can always just post an imgur link or something, that's not bannable. I don't really see many reasons to allow porn here.
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>>28422876
Ban that and frogposting on this board.
Also get some fucking halfway competent mods who don't think adding a pony image or 'in equestria' makes shitposting threads show related.
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Do nothing, Everithing is great as it is.
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>>28422970
>Also get some fucking halfway competent mods who don't think adding a pony image or 'in equestria' makes shitposting threads show related.
this
I am okay with frogs. But only REEE one
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>>28422958
I don't particularly want /mlp/ to be red, and I'm convinced it would never happen anyways.
That said having when threads full of NSFW links to imgur are allowed and 4chan X can auto-embed the images, what's the difference with just allowing it directly? What's the justification?
A couple years ago you could have argued that Sigourney just doesn't want anything that could look like furryshit on 4chan, but now that we have >>>/trash/ it's getting pretty silly.
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Make MLP NSFW.

Remove GR15.

Allow Them's Fighting Herds threads on /v/.

There. You've now made /mlp/ 100 percent better.
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>>28422981
Either you like it or not, porn and the ability to post gore would get rid of the fucking kids and cancerous hugboxers.
But what I said above was, maybe it gets rid of them all and the board is kill.
I doubt many NEETs still remain.
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>>28422981
>threads full of NSFW links to imgur are allowed
Are they? I haven't seen anything like that around. I'd say there's a difference between linking NSFW when it's just a part of the discussion and dumping NSFW links for some reason.
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>>28423020
In the rules, linking to NSFW from SFW boards is supposed to get your post deleted. Mods just don't enforce it, or nobody snitches.
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>>28423007
>Either you like it or not, porn and the ability to post gore would get rid of the fucking kids and cancerous hugboxers.
It would not, anon.
Porn, gore, and edge is the essence of >>>/b/, all it does it attract teenagers.
Kids love doing "forbidden" things.

>>28423020
I'm thinking of things like the eqg edits threads, lewd threads, etc
You're right that we don't have many outright porn dump threads, but if say spoilered NSFW was allowed, would it really be used differently than linked NSFW?
The rule sounds a bit arbitrary.
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>>28421276
This. First post is best post.
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>>28423060
The kind of kids and hugboxers that are our cancer hate those things.
posting quality of pony threads in /trash/ is much better than here.
Not many can stand a fucking horsepussy in their face unless they actually want to fuck it.
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Our bolshevik /mlp/ though it's pretty dead for like a years now has only one porn general, where shit like anthro is allowed as well as any porn, and the rest of the board is only for hooves and horse pussy. So it's obviously red, but with anthro in reservation.
Mb we need something like that?
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>>28423086
>Not many can stand a fucking horsepussy in their face unless they actually want to fuck it.
I can definately stand it, if the picture is well-drawn in general and pleases my eye.
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>>28423086
I don't personally mind any of that, but I've seen enough to know that "shock" pictures don't scare anyone away.

You're making a "us vs them" dichotomy and paintaing a lot of different people as ponychan, kids, hugboxers etc.

Please understand that most posters are not actually clinically retarded just because they disagree with you. Shitposters are not going to leave because of a naked horses or dead body art.
It's easier to put other people in a box and call them stupid without trying to see their point, but it's wrong.
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>>28423044
I'm not seeing that. Sure, NSFW content is not allowed, but a link itself is not NSFW. That's up for speculation, I guess, but since I've never seen that enforced I always assumed it's okay.
>>28423060
I'd say our current problem is more newfags and redditors/eqdfags or from whatever hole these people come from that would turn away if this place got a little bit more of an edge, however shitty that sounds.
>eqg edit thread
yeah, that's a good example.
The solution imo needs to be a bit more nuanced. Allow spoilered NSFW since if people want to post something they can just post a link anyway, but disallow porn dump threads.
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>>28423118
Janitor in /vp/ used to delete my links for poke porn, and even suggestive art.
They sometimes even delete threads that are well known to hide porn too, like in here.
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>>28423044
I like to think newfag babies that don't want NSFW want it gone but think links are allowed and oldfags just don't snitch.
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>>28423117
>It's easier to put other people in a box and call them stupid without trying to see their point, but it's wrong.
>without trying to see their point
And what if there is none?
Kissing ponies, ponies in panties, lewd ponies, suggestive smiles all over the board and yeah shure they can definately show it to anyone, I mean, it's called SFW for a reason, right? Right?
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>>28423118
>I'd say our current problem is more newfags and redditors/eqdfags or from whatever hole these people come from that would turn away if this place got a little bit more of an edge, however shitty that sounds.
>from whatever hole these people come from
That's the problem, there's no single hole newfags have been crawling from.
When a community gets bigger or older, more and more people start coming from everywhere, and it inevitably turns to shit.
It's called cancer, and as far as I know, nobody's found a chemo yet.

Again, look at >>>/b/. It's as not safe for work, edgy, gorey as you want.
It's the fastest, biggest, and worse board by far.
A containment board full of kids.
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Why don't we put the red board on trial?
That way we can see if it works, if it doesn't then we revert back to SFW.
You anons say porn and shocking shit doesn't get rid of hugboxers, but it killed ponychan, which was a cancerous hugbox of fags that probably don't even watch the show.
and the other pone board that allows porn under spoilers pone does just fine, the only downside is that it is super slow.
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>>28423086
Only newfags don't love horse pussy over human pussy.
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>>28423148
I'd be down for this. But good luck getting a mod or Hiro to listen.
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>>28423135
>Kissing ponies, ponies in panties, lewd ponies, suggestive smiles all over the board
This.
How is it fucking diferent to outright posting NSFW? Who the fuck does have such a surrounding that they tolerate all that stuff, but ONLY NO DICKS YOU PERVERT.
Can someone actually explain this to me?
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>>28423135
>And what if there is none?
>Kissing ponies, ponies in panties, lewd ponies, suggestive smiles all over the board and yeah shure they can definately show it to anyone, I mean, it's called SFW for a reason, right? Right?
I agree, actually. I think the rules are arbitrary and silly given what we already have on the board.
But I don't think blueboarders are all 12 year olds from ponychan.
If you look at other boards, porn dumps don't really help with the post quality.
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>>28423137
Key difference here is that most people who invade from other shitholes couldn't handle that kind of posts. Having this board red would help A LOT with that. The ones that can find themselves in it probably weren't the worst cancer to begin with.
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>>28423137
That's just what /b/ was, is and always will be. I was an underage browsing /b/ in '06-'08 as well, it's a phase a teenager on the internet has to go through. But it serves its purpose well, when you hear about that epic 4chan with all the maymays, you always go to /b/, and maybe [r9k] and /pol/ nowadays too. It's a place full of edgy kids, and that in turn attracts more edgy kids. There's not much of a spill over, or I would like to believe that at least.
On the other hand we don't have a problem with newfags coming here trying to be all edgy and shit, quite the opposite I'd say. Allowing NSFW, even if spoilered, could tip the scales a little bit, hopefully.
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>>28422318
WTF
Why ban humanized when it's explicitly part of the show meanwhile anthro isn't.
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>>28423187
>porn dumps
I can realy see why everyone itt once using word "porn" does conjunct it with "dump" like it's the only possible outcome.
And even then, again, here we go again, how "porn dumps" gonna be different as oposed to "image dumps" in the bump-generals?
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>>28423212
>"I don't know what anthro and humanized are" the post
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>>28423148
Wouldn't that just defeat the purpose of /trash/? As much as I hate being associated with furries nobody here on /mlp/ seems to take advantage of it like they do. And even with GR15 in effect mods look the other way when it comes to clop dumps.
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>>28423219
>I can
can't
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>>28423221
But that's not the official purpose of /trash/. GR15 doesn't apply there because even mods here should be able to move threads to /trash/.
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>>28423195
>Key difference here is that most people who invade from other shitholes couldn't handle that kind of posts. Having this board red would help A LOT with that.
You're happily ignoring the fact that literally everyone can handle porn and gore. I have a whole folder of shitty gore I got from /b/ when I was still <ageb&.
Sure, some ponychan people would wine and throw a fit, but that's already not the people that browse /mlp/, those people went to MLPChan as I understand it.

>The ones that can find themselves in it probably weren't the worst cancer to begin with.
There's not much to support your opinion.
I have a whole board full of edgy kids showing you that's not true.

>>28423198
>On the other hand we don't have a problem with newfags coming here trying to be all edgy and shit, quite the opposite I'd say.
After Lauren, I saw a pretty large wave of newfags. People who didn't know anything about 4chan, the kind of people that would put their real email in the email field...
We have less newfriends nowadays, maybe.

>Allowing NSFW, even if spoilered, could tip the scales a little bit, hopefully.
I'm not convinced of that.
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>>28423220
I know what it is.
Care to enlighten me mon ami
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>>28423221
/trash/ is mostly /fur/ and low level /b/ /s4s/ shit. And it's purpose was to eliminate threads that violated rules but were not bad. Roll threads, pony and furry porn, etc.
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>>28423221
Actually we tried to overtake the board, but Hiro told people to tone it down.
So no, /trash/ isn't synonym with /clop/.
I liked the idea though, despite the fucking bullshit name, that Hiro actually wants to get into an agreement instead of dismissing us.
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Turn board to red
Enforce spoilers on anthro
Enforce spoilers on guro
[sppoiler]Ban humanized[/spoiler]

Here you go, to the bright future.
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>>28421262
We need them to ban MLPG
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>>28423259
Use CTRL+S to spoiler so you don't fuck up like a retard.

If you're this new, you don't get to give your opinion about the board ;^)
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>>28423237
Have you went to MLPchan recently? it is 5 posts a day.
They are all obviously here, since SFw is now enforced by the mods.
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>>28423239
Humanized-100%human
Anthro-anything but 100% pony features and 100% human features.
Pony-the only acceptable choice..
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>>28423239
Humanized is solely when they're fully passable as humans - and not some fucking wacky colors like EQG. Besides, it's confirmed they aren't humans.
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>>28421281
this
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>>28423148
You know /trash/ exists right?
Right now they have 3 MLP porn threads up for humanized, pony and anthro.
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>>28423237
Honestly the more you post you make it seem like you are one of the cancerous cells that resist to fucking die.
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Ok, even if we can't agree on whether or not to make the board red, can't we all agree that GR15 in it's current form is outdated and needs to be done away with?
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>>28423237
>/b/ is even remotely comparable to /mlp/
talk when you've been around for longer, please keep your name so everyone knows to disregard your posts
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>>28423268
>fail spoiler
>name on name field
>baning humanized while allowing anthro and guro
man, he just (you)'s
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>>28423285
All the mods except maybe the ponyfag one are agaisnt removing it.
I doubt Hiro gives in, and like some anons said, if the rule is removed then we won't have other choice than to go to /b/ and /co/ where people will throw a bitch fit all day long.
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>>28423269
I don't go to MLPChan or height chan regularly, but they've never been very fast, especially since the fandom seems to be slowing down as a whole.

The ones who came here and stayed are probably not any worse than the people who came from EQD three years ago and stayed.
The annoying ones tend to stay away from icky 4chan with all its horrible people, anyways.

>>28423284
That's why I think you have a "us vs them" mentality.
I don't personally mind any of that. I'd be for spoilered porn because I think it's no different than linked porn.
But I don't agree than it would make anyone run away, or than everyone who disagrees comes from ponychan.
That's my position.
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>>28423295
I'm not saying delete /mlp/.

Just remove GR15 when it comes to pony reaction images but keep /mlp/ for pony threads. Basically make /mlp/ into /vp/.
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>>28423268
>how tasty, even smiley face
Nice "oldfags" you have down there.
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>>28423285
No. People on this site are still strongly against MLP, familia. It's become part of this site's culture just like h8ing on furries despite the fact that they have a small presence on 4chan. Those fuckers had it rougher and it's been over 10 years.
While barneyfag can cause shit for the most inane thing, a lot of people on this site are still against MLP. Hiro asked /b/ if they wanted MLP allowed there and there was a strong push-back against it being allowed there.
Hiro has also been a lot more stricter with GR15 than m00t, I think. There were certain boards that allowed MLP as long as it fit the theme of the board and it was humanized and that was allowed for like three years. Since Hiro took over that is not the case anymore and you can get banned.
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>>28423318
Why, thank you ^__^
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>>28423285
Correct me if I'm wrong but, don't you think we aren't the ones who are to deside the global rules? Like for a whole fucking site? Only by our opinion? Just a hint for you.
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Daily reminder that everyone who wants GR15 gone hasn't been here long enough.
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RED LIGHTS! Turn on the red lights!
And yeah, it's nice idea to just enforce spoilers on everything like anthro and guro, whomever baiting or not it came from.
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>>28423339
Hiro has proven he's been open to feedback, and has even created boards at the urging of users (/his/). He's open to discuss about sidewide issues.

All we have to do is present a unified front. Have the users of this board become so affected by Stockholm Syndrome that they think having an entire avenue of SFW images banned from the rest of the site is a good idea?
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Remove the anthro rule.
Make it a red board.
No one gets banned anymore for stupid shit. Like the janitor playing favorites for Pencil's comic yet removing EQG posts.
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It's funny how people here complain about GR15 but I bet they're the same people who are okay with the anthro ban and would like to see EG banned.
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>>28423378
EQG is almost strictly used for shitposting.
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>>28423372
Contrary to popular belief, nor/mlp/eople aren't all shitposters. The ones spamming chikun or breaking GR15 for fun are mostly /b/tards.

Point is, we wouldn't mind not having GR15 but everyone else would, and that would just turn half the site into a salt mine.
The whole reason we have this board is because other boards can't cope with Ponies.
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>>28423382
>remove GR15
>EQG now postable on /co/ just like Monster High and Ever After is
>anthro still postable on /trash/

I don't see anything wrong here.
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>>28423372
You are completely missing the point.
>present a unified front
...And? What? Start a holy war against whole site? Okay, not the whole site, but majority of it, and yeah majority, or this rule wouldn't exist by now.
And for what?
Just imaging if /v/ came here demanding that antho and guro is allowed.
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>>28423324
Being still butthurt about ponies after six years is fucking dumb, and the GR15 is just giving them the excuse and justification to be mad. Remove GR15, weather the next few weeks of shitstorm, and we're done. Barneyfag can kill himself for all I care, either move on or fuck off.
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>>28423285
I'd vouch for that.
I recognise there'd be a whole shitstorm if it happens but I think it'd be better to do it sooner than later.
Something like four years sooner.

>>28423324
>There were certain boards that allowed MLP as long as it fit the theme of the board and it was humanized and that was allowed for like three years. Since Hiro took over that is not the case anymore and you can get banned
That explains why I can't find an MLP cosplay thread on /cgl/.

>>28423339
We aren't the ones who can decide the global rules.
We can't really decide the board rules either.
That doesn't change anything: he's looking for people's opinions to be voiced on the subject (or, rather, a "yes or no" answer).
The question of whether we can comes later which is no but don't jump to conclusions too quickly.

>>28423342
Four years and counting.
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>>28423394
You don't see anything wrong with that?
It's hipocritical calling for the removal of one rule banning certain material while supporting another one that bans relevant material.
Anthro makes up a pretty good chunk of MLP fan art.
By your same train of thought GR15 should never be done away because /mlp/ exists.
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>>28423382
>It's funny how people here complain about GR15 but I bet they're the same people who are okay with the anthro ban

Pretty much.

Pony reaction images, just like smug anime faces and other reaction images that trigger the ever-loving shit out of some autists are a part of what makes image-board a fucking imageboard.
What we are not, however, is a furry fansite and as such, all furry shit (i.e. anthro) should be kept banned site-wide just like it always has been.

>>>/fur/
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>>28423342
Pony being posted doesn't get as many replies like before.
People just stopped giving a shit for the most part.
I have seen it posted a lot in other boards just to piss people off and the one that causes a fucking drama is always the barneyfag.
And he would be gone if the rule was removed.
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>>28423403
>few weeks of shitstorm
Now that's some top tier optimism.
Last time we tried that, it didn't last "a few weeks", and it ended with a purpose built containment board.
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>>28423392
>The whole reason we have this board is because other boards can't cope with Ponies.
Outside of a few dedicated anti-pony shitposters nobody on the site even gives a fuck about ponies anymore. If it weren't for Barneyfag, most threads where ponies are posted would continue as normal. There have been dozens of threads where a pony is the OP and discussion continues as normal until Barneyfag shows up.

You're making it seem like the entirety of 4chan is represented by Barneyfag and the autists on /qa/. I guarantee you that if GR15 was removed, after a brief shitstorm the site would get over it, like they should have done 5 fucking years ago.

The rule in and of itself is keeping the pony hate going, like a perpetual motion machine. Remove it and the pony hate goes as well.
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>>28423231
>>28423255
But let's be real here, have you ever heard of any incidences where anons have had content redirected there? I've frequented /qa/ before /trash/ existed and haven't seen any threads or posts being off topic. Even if it's happened before anons from /s4s/ or /b/ are unlikely to crossboard just to partake in some stupid get thread.

>>28423256
You think /clop/ could ever coincide with /trash/ as a sticky?
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>>28423407
>Four years and counting
Exactly.

>>28423417
Problem is that every other board has newfags too which are conditioned to be outraged by images of cartoon horses, while they have no reason to (having seen pre-GR15 is a valid reason and only that is). Just like our newfags who say it's bullshit that GR15 is there, they haven't seen pre-GR15.
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>>28423407
>We aren't the ones who can decide the global rules.
Right.
>We can't really decide the board rules either.
Wrong.
Sorry, but I think you are just trying to start a demagoguery.
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Would removing GR15 really kill the barneyfag? Even if it wasn't against the rules, he'd still get triggered and start spamming and ban evading until the thread gets deleted to shut him up.
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>>28423417
That's not true, familia.
Barneyfag causes a big ruckus but that doesn't mean people "stop giving a shit". Most people do the correct thing and report it and move on but if you asked the other boards if they would be okay with the removal they would tell you no.
People still do give a shit and the general population doesn't want it gone.
It's in the same boat as furry shit except they weren't given a board.
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>>28423421
The fandom is nowhere near as large as it was back then, and ponies aren't some new fad like in 2011. It's been almost 6 fucking years. Anybody who still cares about pony images is more autistic than bronies themselves.

Having a rule that caters to and fuels posters like Barneyfag's nonstop obsession isn't good. He's stated multiple times that if GR15 was removed he'd quit.

>>28423446
>Would removing GR15 really kill the barneyfag?
Yes. He's only here because he feels he's on the side of the moderation team. Being abandoned by them would finally make him stop.
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>>28423388
This is wrong in every way. There's a few generals up that are EQG related and they have nothing to do with shit posting. Only anti EQG fags use it to shitpost.
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>>28421374
This, or at the very least allow ass worship/facesitting
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>>28423440
IT happened when the board was created. Then it got its own set of generals and content.
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>>28423428
Most people stopped sperging out when they see a pony pic because they know it's bait and replying would just bring more pony pics.

But I can guarantee you if GR15 is abolished it will be a neverending site-wide butthurt fest. Autists don't get used to things.

It's not just barneyfag. People still can't get over anime images either, and that's been allowed for more than a decade.
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>>28423382
I like to work on the philosophy of "ban as little as possible".
I'd be happy to see the anthro ban lifted, regardless of GR15 and I've mellowed to EG as a whole.

>>28423392
>Contrary to popular belief, nor/mlp/eople aren't all shitposters
He wasn't talking about the shitposters.

>The ones spamming chikun or breaking GR15 for fun are mostly /b/tards
True.

>Point is, we wouldn't mind not having GR15 but everyone else would, and that would just turn half the site into a salt mine
And this is the crux of the whole problem.
If we can find a way of removing GR15 and have the rest of the site fine, I'd love it.
As it stands, that doesn't seem possible. I still insist it needs to go, one way or another.
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>>28423421
Last time was when MLP was the hottest shit around. It's $current_year. /mlp/ would still exist for all your pony needs, removing GR15 would only cause some shitposting until people would get bored and learn to deal with it. Jannies and mods would have to work overtime for a while, whoop de fucking doo.
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>>28423465
>But I can guarantee you if GR15 is abolished it will be a neverending site-wide butthurt fest. Autists don't get used to things.

What if the mod team simply deleted posts reacting in a butthurt manner to a simple image, as well as deleted images and threads who's only purpose is to troll? Is that asking too much?
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>>28423476
The thing, is it worth it?
I doubt they're going to appease to a small minority, famfam.
I know I wouldn't, especially when there is a board for them to post their shit.
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>>28423478
>censorship
>everything is black and white
are you actually fucking stupid
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>>28423465
>People still can't get over anime images either, and that's been allowed for more than a decade.
I, for example, hate fucking anime and am willing to shit all over any animufags when I'm in a bad mood. On our russian chan, where it's a strong tradition
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>>28423478
yes
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>>28423445
>Sorry, but I think you are just trying to start a demagoguery
No, that's Trump.
And I know I fucked up with my argument (unless you think you've been talking to me all thread or something): the point I'm trying to make is that we can still voice our opinion on the matter, whether we can change it or not.
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>>28423488
>the mod team doing their jobs=censorship
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>>28423478
Deleting and banning never stopped shitposting.
We used to have big red bold visible permabans but that just derailed threads, then we had invisible shorter bans and that didn't stop anything.

We're millions in there. The best mods can do is clean up the catalog a little, but you can't prevent idiots getting mad.
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>>28423506
>we can still voice our opinion on the matter, whether we can change it or not
Only make sure that we voice our opinion on more pressing maters, like our very own board, first and foremost, for the fucks sake.
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>>28423509
>The best mods can do is clean up the catalog a little, but you can't prevent idiots getting mad.

Then maybe the idiots will stop getting mad? Sort of like how the Undertale shitposting died down a while back. Same with SU. Maybe if you don't give the spergs a rule to validate their hate they'll move on to something else?
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>>28423531
Why does everyone who participates in this discussion not know what it was like when GR15 wasn't a thing?
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>>28423416
But doesn't that apply to pony shit as well?
I just find it funny t b h.
I was browsing one of the pr0n boards and there was some faggot complaining that his humanized MLP pictures kept being taken down. Anyhow I was playing the devil's advocate and told him what if I started posting furry porn in the thread and he said something about reporting it and that it would bring furries.
That same line of thinking could be apply to those pics he posted instead bringing bornies.
Furries really don't have that big of a presence outside of /trash/ and even on /b/ they're not as present as they used to be.
Either way it's stupid to ban that shit when it fits the theme of the board. I think one of /aco/ biggest mistake was banning a good chunk of western animated porn. I just think that being okay with an anthro ban while wanting GR15 to be done away with is dumb dumb.
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>>28423531
>Sort of like how the Undertale shitposting died down
As did 90% of undertale fags?
This is a retarded comparison, honestly.
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I just want to have pony thread in /b/ again.
I want to be able to post ponies and gore and shit in a fast paced board.
/trash/ is far too slow.
Like the good times.
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>>28423531
>Then maybe the idiots will stop getting mad?
Maybe, I can't say it won't work, but it's hard to be optimistic.

>Sort of like how the Undertale shitposting died down a while back. Same with SU
I think those were just a thing of the month, kinda like how everyone was talking and making things about FNAF for a while, then it got really old really quick.
Pony is a long-term thing though.

>Maybe if you don't give the spergs a rule to validate their hate they'll move on to something else?
One can hope, but it didn't help with the animu hate fags.
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>>28423525
>more pressing matters
Ladies and Gentlemen: what pressing matter do we have?
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>>28423545
>implying the pony fandom hasn't had a significant slowdown as well
We're nowhere near as rampant as we were in 2012 m8.
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>>28423274
>Besides, it's confirmed they aren't humans
Except when SciTwi called herself a human lol
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>>28423490
>On our russian chan, where it's a strong tradition

Isn't 2ch.XX even more 2chan inspired than 4chan is? What do Russkies over there like, even?

I mean, if you've got people butthurt over anime then western cartoons are also probably a no-go.
God, how do their /co/ and /a/ even exist?

Is the site just a massive /v/ or something?
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>>28423549
I think that you're just a shitposter anon. You don't create quality content.
Maybe you'd do better to stay in >>>/trash/, >>>/b/ or [s4s]
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>>28423568
But I watch the fucking show.
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>>28423557
Significant slow down of an ongoing show-related fandom vs a single game based faggotry, no matter how huge was it.
Realy?
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>>28423285
No, if it goes this board must go with it
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>>28423579
Do you think the pony fandom is still large enough to warrant GR15? I don't.
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>>28423577
Yes, I'm not saying shitposters don't watch the show, I'm just saying you don't belong.
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>>28423593
Well fuck you faggot.
the /b/read posters never actually watched the show and they were just there to make anons in /b/ mad.
I genuinely wanted to talk about the show while having some porn, gore and other random shit in between.
That's why I want red /mlp/ or GR 15 gone.
I am sure a lot of you go to /b/ still just don'
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>>28423591
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>>28423618
admit it anymore because it is looked down upon, just like you are doing right now.
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>>28423558
It was one off-line t b h.
The woman that designed the characters said they're human-pony hybrids, I'd take her word over one single line.
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>>28423560
>Isn't 2ch.XX even more 2chan inspired than 4chan is?
Doesn't it make perfect sense? There is more "inspiration" drawn, as you said, as well as more fedora edgelords with katanas showed up theirs, who furiously fap to anything japaneese. So, naturally, there is more who are disgusted or/and buttblasted. And the thing is, that there are almost no "i don't give a fuck" anons: only either weeaboos or haters.

And speaking of western cartoons - no, not at all. Everyone (sane) there is used to shitting on everything soviet or native, even after CRIMEAISOUR, as oposed to western products.
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>>28423618
It sounds like you're mad you can't spam gore and edgy crap like everything you care about has to be on the same board just for you.
You're welcome to go back to >>>/b/ or >>>/trash/, it's full of people like you.
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>>28423675
Isn't this fucking thread all about that? Everybody is posting for their interests.
But nice b8, faggot.
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>>28423687
>Isn't this fucking thread all about that? Everybody is posting for their interests.
Sure, and we can discuss the rules, but there are rules. You can't post whatever you want and complain that it doesn't work.

If you think we should have gore in /mlp/, you either need to grow up of your dark emo teen phase or you have weird fetishes.
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>>28423675
Do you even reading comprehension?
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>>28421262

Please make mlp red
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>>28423703
>you have weird fetishes'
Anon a large majority of this board wishes to fuck horses and the remainder is too new for that. This really isn't the place to call anyone's fetish weird.
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>>28423705
Never ever
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>>28423657
And trust me, there is no worse thing than a russian weeaboo.
They retain all features of typical slav, while also being significantly more immature, hysterical and often dumb. This way, they usually can't say a word in english, because "fuck english! i don't need dat shit, i'll learn japanese and emigrate there!", but, as expected, never learn japanese, being slavic apes.
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>>28423714
>Anon a large majority of this board wishes to fuck horses and the remainder is too new for that
And there's literally nothing wrong with wanting to fuck horses, but there's a place for everything.
The place for gore is /b/.

>This really isn't the place to call anyone's fetish weird.
I don't know if gore is even a fetish. Sounds hard to satisfy IRL.
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>>28423703
Nigga fuck you
We are literally in a fucking board that praises bestiality.
I bet you are a butthurt ex /co/ fag that is mad about being expelled from his shithole (even if nowadays it is way worse than ever) or a fucking hugboxer ponychaner.
4chan used to be about having fun, not about pleasing fucking autists like your kind. You probably would cry to the mods about everything if they didn't ban horsefuckers from IRC.
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>>28422723
Fucking this

Right here
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11232190
Go on and vote
Captcha added so people don't bot the shit out of it
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>>28423724
>I don't know if gore is even a fetish
They call it guro and it's a thing.
Ain't my cup of tea, though.
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>>28423727
>We are literally in a fucking board that praises bestiality.
Yep.

>I bet you are a butthurt ex /co/ fag that is mad about being expelled from his shithole (even if nowadays it is way worse than ever) or a fucking hugboxer ponychaner.
I'm happy we have our own board, I wouldn't want to go back to /co/ actually.

>4chan used to be about having fun, not about pleasing fucking autists like your kind. You probably would cry to the mods about everything if they didn't ban horsefuckers from IRC.
Of course 4chan is about having fun, but guess what it turns into when the rules are "ZOMG NONE!!!!"?

I hate nazi moderation as much as the next guy, but you need to have limits somewhere or everything turns into /b/.
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Re-name the board to /glm/.
Ban nu-glim topics and images.
That's pretty much it.
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>>28423746
>They call it guro and it's a thing.
Oh alright, I though guro was just an art style.
Never went to old /g/, don't think I missed much.
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>>28423724
>I don't know if gore is even a fetish
>This new and sheltered
Oh, to be young again.
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>>28423746
Pony gore is something else. It is both cute and shocking. It is something else.
Candy pony gore is fascinating, but there is so little of it.
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>>28423744
>Strawpoll
>About whether to make /mlp/ red or not
I'd vote for the "don't know/don't care" option if there was one so you'll get a yes from me.

So the only pressing matters are a red /mlp/ and GR15?
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>>28423721
>but, as expected, never learn japanese

I wouldn't exactly call that expected considering a Russian has a much better shot at learning Japanese (both are phonetic languages, no need to get used to any new pronunciation habits, most people living there are at least bilingual,...) than someone from the US does and the more into it boards like /m/ do have quite a good amount of people who speak Moon and help with translations for old anime.
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>>28423765
>So the only pressing matters are a red /mlp/ and GR15?
A sticky would be nice too.
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>>28423703
Why is everyone like that?
Is I'm the only one thinking: "okay, we better allow anthro, so drawfags can do whatever they want in their threads, as well as any Pencils", or "okay, we can allow gore, so writefags can post edgy pics to their greens".
Why everyone think that there will be instant floods of said content all over the board, massive dumps, godzilla invasions and so on?
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>>28421354

Seconded
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>>28423782
>Why everyone think that there will be instant floods of said content all over the board, massive dumps, godzilla invasions and so on?
Because it's been tried before.
Do you seriously think you're the first person to have had that idea? The rules are here for a reason. You know, we used to have pretty much no rules.
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>>28423782
Because it is the way that cancerous cells are attacking back
They don't want gore, porn and shocking shit because it will make them leave
Please oldfags of /mlp/, if there is enough of us, we shouldn't let them win
We should rise, literally make /mlp/ great again
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>>28423774
This; a sticky with primers like so many fucking boards have. It would be great just to tell faggots to fuck off and read the sticky here.
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>>28423797
And it was better
You are just a cancerous hugboxer that is mad that we want to take your safe space from you
Fuck you, eat shit and die
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>>28423798
>enough of us
as much as I'd like to imply this screams new, I must agree with your post.
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Make TFH go away
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>>28423770
>both are phonetic languages, no need to get used to any new pronunciation habits, most people living there are at least bilingual
Yeah, just as I'm being a polyglot on paper with my 3 slav languages and english. Does it differ from just speaking russian and enlish? No.
And what I'm saying, that, if someone can't grasp even basics of english and is actually semi-openly proud of it, no way that dumbass is going to master japanese.
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>>28423802
That's some weak bait, anon.
Again, I don't mind porn or gore. And I know that you won't change your mind, I'm pretty sure you're somewhere on the spectrum.
What I care about is quality content, and you're a shitposter.
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>>28422856
>How in the fuck do you get a job where browsing 4chan and /mlp/ is okay, but NSFW content is not.
Because if your boss walks in and sees you looking at pictures of cartoon horses he might think you're a weirdo and yell at you to get back to work (especially if you're using your own phone or tablet)

If your boss walks in and sees you looking at pictures of horse pussy he's going to fire you.
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>>28422876
>>28422970
Go ahead. You can't ban Nyx.
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>>28423821
Browsing 4chan when you should be working is a valid reason for getting fired, red or blue.
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>>28423797
>we used to have pretty much no rules
I haven't come across anyone who would say that 2012 /mlp/ was a bad thing. The Scruffening attracted all kinds of filth.

>>28423815
>Everyone I don't agree with is a shit poster
Here, I have a (You) for you.
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>>28423821
You shouldn't be browsing 4chan at work in any case, because that SFW image could be tied to a post saying "I want Twilight Sparkle to shit down my anus." If your boss sees that you're fucked too.
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>>28423821
>Because if your boss walks in and sees you looking at pictures of cartoon horses
And what if they are kissing or showing bulges on their panties to your boss? Oh, sure he will be fine with, it's SFW after all.
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>>28423651
One line in canon holds more weight than the word of someone who has no draw in deciding lore or storyline
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>>28423815
No fuck you, it really was better
I was in 4chan since /co/ days, and before fags like you that bitched and moaned about muh porn and shit were so fucking whinny, we used to slip porn in the /co/ generals and other fucked up shit. That's what made 4chan different from any other stupid forum, people did whatever the hell they wanted, not followed the stupid rules.
Rules were just fucking words nobody gave a shit about, you enforce them like the fucking Bible. Kill yourself.
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>>28423831
>normies
>able to recognize 4chan at a glance

90% of people still think we blow up vans and that they'll end up on a watchlist if they come here.
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>>28423855
>Rules were just fucking words nobody gave a shit about
This.
Rules where the just for the case someone realy looses his mind or simply tries to wipe the thread with something that could be easily ignored otherwise.
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>>28423838
>I haven't come across anyone who would say that 2012 /mlp/ was a bad thing. The Scruffening attracted all kinds of filth.
2012 /mlp/ was a small board, and if you've ever visited any other board you'll know that the bigger a board gets, the worse shitposting gets.
Small boards don't need many rules because the community can still agree together, that's not true anymore.

It was better before because we were smaller, and we were a real community.

>>28423855
So you probably have hundreds of bans and so do I, but what worked in 2011 doesn't work in 2016.
I'm not saying enforce rules like the fucking bibles, I'm saying some things are b& for a good reason.
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>>28423851
Great, then hands exist in the actual series too. Because there was one slip-up in all of the writing. Great logic.
Besides,
>EQG
>canon
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>28423457
All EqG-related discussion and shitty writefag bait threads are low quality and thus shitposting
Fuck off, shill
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>>28423874
Well they do you dipshit
Spike has hands for example
>EqG
>not canon
lmao it's so ridiculous that after 4 years you're still this far in denial
Your butthurt won't change fact, you bleeding heart shitter
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>>28423890
>Spike has hands
>actually this stupid
Dragons have claws. Do point me to where they even mention the existence of EQG as a universe in the main series, too.
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>>28423873
>2012 /mlp/ was a small board
/mlp/ was one of the fastest boards on the site in 2012 and was nearly twice as fast as it is now. By your reasoning, we need less moderation now that we're entering 'small board' status and having about 10k - 12k posts per day.
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What kind of restrictions would it take to get ponies posted on /co/, again?
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>>28423890
>stuff that happened in EqG outright ignored in the show
>still believing your little spin-off is on the same level of canon as FiM
I guess it comes hand in hand with the shit taste you need to have to like eqg anyway
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>>28423752

Someday
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>>28423890
EQG is a child of dumb and shitty cash-grab by hasbro, way worse than any edless streams of new princesses (which is also shit). And anyone who is willing eating that better be put down, but it's just my opinion, I've never shitposted on your threads, because I can easily hide them.
Still naturally I would be much more happy, if there was nothing to hide in the first place.
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>>28423874
>Great, then hands exist in the actual series too. Because there was one slip-up in all of the writing. Great logic.
No, hands exist in the series because Spike and Tirek and Discord and other creatures with hands exist
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>>28423909
Couldn't pay me to post there. Besides, the users don't want us.
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>>28423821
Allowing spoilered nsfw would be the best option IMO.
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>>28423752
>>28423912
>"FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES!"

No, seriously, you glimmy glammy wammy xdd spamming retards need to shove flaming legos up your urethras.
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>>28423908
/mlp/ was around the ~15th fastest in 2012 out of about 50 boards.

We're actually still in the top 10 I think today, and the problem is that a lot of content creators are gone nowadays, and almost everything about the older seasons has already been discussed, pretty much all that's left is shitposting.
Less rules isn't going to result in less shitposting at this point.

We're going to get smaller and smaller, but that's because we'll be dying, not because we're going back to how it was before.
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>>28423914
Humans are the only race to have hands. Things that act like hands are not hands. Spike has claws. Tirek has claws, which hand has 4 fucking fingers shaped like they could murder a man? Discord has claws too.
>inb4 EQG has hands but they're not humans
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Bring back write prompt threads.

In fact, fuck it, bring back all the banned topics. Why the fuck were they even banned in the first place?
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>>28423928
Mods won't allow that.
If they did, then every other board would want a piece of that cake.
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>>28423942
Half the catalog was fetish generals that attracted porn dumps. Then the scruffening happened.
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>>28423948
So? Let other boards have it too, if they want... there's nothing preventing that from happening.
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>>28423765
>So the only pressing matters are a red /mlp/ and GR15?
Well those appear to be the major issues, yes.

If I'm understanding correctly, there's been an ongoing movement for the removal
of GR15. See >>28422723.
That rule is constantly cited as outdated, redundant, and unfair.

Other anons want GR15 to remain since it's intrinsically tied to the existence of /mlp/, and
also state such a repeal would unleash waves of mass butthurt across 4chan.

Making /mlp/ into a red board would allow for gratuitous amounts of porn.
Oldfags desire a return to when the rules were more lax, and are claiming
a ton of porn and related material would drive off newfags who are promoting a cancerous
hugbox type mentality.
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>>28423919
As an avid /co/ user, it gets really annoying to refer to MLP as "That Show That Must Not Be Named". It's also a stupid rule to get banned for posting ponies.
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>>28423950
Half the board still is fetish generals and there are still porn dumps at night.

And write prompt threads were great. We used to produce a lot more content than we do now.
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>>28423964
>As an avid /co/ user
I feel sorry for you.
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So? I guess so far everyone, except cancer that doesn't belong here, agrees that we should have horse pussy NSFW, but can't decide wherever gore and anthro should also be permited, right?
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>>28423976
I'm not saying it was bad, just giving some context.
At least generals aren't 10 pages of HI ANON.
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>>28423983
>generals aren't 10 pages of HI ANON
I would take a board meme spammed then removed because spam is not allowed over those shitty bumpfest circlejerks any day.
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>>28423851
So when the show uses terms like "man" or other shit like that it means there are humans in Equestria??
I dunno senpai. They've been pretty secretive in using the "h word" in the actual material. The books and some of the promotional material do use the word but for the last 3 movies it was only brought up as an off comment.
Still the person who designed the characters should have a strong say and unless they bring it up apart from one off line I'm not buying it t b h
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>>28422669
This. You're still allowed to post Pokémon images on other boards despite /vp/.
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>>28423998
Meh. I like that there's a place I can fall back when all the rest of the board is crap.
I wish every thread were original, but that's not gonna happen anyways. It's not like generals are pushing more interesting things off the board.
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If things get extremely bad here we could always migrate to /pone/
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>>28423935
Stop talking shit. We're at half the speed we've used to be. Averaging 300 pph now we're slower than /fit/ or /k/ are.
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>>28423983
>At least generals aren't 10 pages of HI ANON.
All banning Hi Anon threads did was piss people off. It sure as shit didn't stop the shitposting. It just made them start posting glimmer and nyx threads.
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>>28423982
>anthro
There's a board for that xDDDD
>gore
Wouldn't you know it, there's one for that, too!
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>>28424013
Your pic pretty clearly shows that the peak was in 2013. We're slower today than I estimated, but that doesn't change my point.
We're going slower because the fandom is dying and most people have moved on, what's left is mostly shitposting.
There's no going back to a simpler time, it's just going to get worse.
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>>28424013
Why don't people sage anymore? It still works.
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>>28424018
So, noone against horse pussy?
Good, so let it be first in our make-mlp-red-again program list.
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>>28424032
Many people still stage, it's just that new people don't know all the email options that exist.
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>>28423935
>We're actually still in the top 10 I think today
Gonna need a sause on that, because if you're right, that means that 4chan is fucking kill.

>>28423982
I don't see much point in banning gore, honestly. It's not like enough people like posting it for it ever to become a problem. Anthro should definitely stay banned, though. /trash/ is there and stealth anthro reaction images almost never get the ban hammer.

>>28424021
The peak was clearly within the first year of /mlp/'s existence, before all of the moderation. Know your history, breh.

>It's just going to get worse
Yeah, I can agree with that.

>>28424032
It's no longer visible, so newfags won't pick it up and I don't think archives can see it either.
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>>28421262
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>>28424036
It would be nice to get horsepussy, but that'll n ever happen. All I want is for Hiro to undo the shitty scruffening.
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>>28424021
You're saying that 2012 /mlp/ was a smaller board when it was twice as fast than it is today, and that we're still top 10 in activity when we have 300 pph. Your point is build on bullshit.
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>>28424056
>Replying to OP
>Not a new IP
I'm not against red, but you make it look like one dedicated autist samefagging.
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>>28424013
What the hell happened in April of 2013?
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>>28424067
Yes, and I wan't to be noticed this much.
Is it realy that autistic?
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GR15 isn't going anywhere.
You'd sooner see GR3 changed than seeing 15 done away with
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>>28424078
Do I really need to explain to you why attentionwhoring and samfagging is autistic?
What the fuck has this board come to.
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>>28424012
Too many autistic "muh precious /pone/ philosophy" fucks in there and Jim isn't any less of a faggot than gook here.

If it came to migrating and it could handle the traffic, then nntpchan would be the best option.
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>>28424085
>nntpchan
Pls. Even cripplechan is better than this.
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>>28424070
>He doesn't know
Learn your history newfag.
It starts with a S and ends with y.
It also hates fun.
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>>28424083
>samfagging
Would you realy start to behave like it's something that noone does or/and at least definitely not you?
What the fuck has this site come to.
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>>28423940
What do minotaurs have?
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>>28424098
Oh, that certain episode...
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>>28424098
Bruh, the servers went down. That's it. Every board has that drop.

>>28424108
>"E-everyone does it!"
Ponychan is for you, my friend. Samefagging is only okay if you're bumping something.
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>>28424108
Unfortunately most people now try to save face and deny they samefag and shitpost. It's really quite baffling.
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>>28424108
>Would you realy start to behave like it's something that noone does or/and at least definitely not you?
So that's how you justify being a shitposting samefag, by thinking everyone else is doing the same?
No wonder the board is full of crap if that's how newfags think.
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>>28424098
>
scruffy happened in june, not april

>>28424070
4chan had to shut down. they needed to pause for a new code to work
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>>28424093
It was better and then the administration turned to shit.
It's not about the specific frontend, it's about the principle. If you don't like the frontend and the node's admin, there will be others. Afaik Next supports it too.
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>>28424098
>>28424070
Actually it was a server crash. You could still post during the scruffening, it's just that everything got deleted.
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>>28424108
I agree with this poster.
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>>28424098
learn your history, newfag.
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>>28424133
The irony is you're probably >>28424108 samefagging.
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>>28424108
Excellent point, senpai.
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>>28424108
/thread
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>>28424150
>>28424143
>>28424133
>All one minute apart
Not even trying. This is neo /mlp/.
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>>28424108
>>28424122
>>28424133
>>28424143
>>28424150
Careful Anon, the spam filter's gonna catch you :^)
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>>28424157
>he can't tell the guy is obviously playing it up for laughs
>I can't tell if you're also just being ironic
we're all in this together, fampai. We're all retarded.
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>>28424172
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>>28424172
>pretending to be retarded
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting,
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>>28424126
And how exactly pretending to not doing it will helps?
At least I'm honest and straight.
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>>28424200
Samefagging is being honest and straight now?
I don't know who you're trying to lie to, but start by being honest with yourself.
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>>28424200
I don't know which filthy hole you all suddenly came from, but I realy want you to be sucked back and painfully crushed in the process.
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>>28424214
Just for (You) >>28424218
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QUICK! CALL REDDIT POLICE! IT CANNOT BE!
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>>28424218
Nice shoop
Seriously is Hiro even here?
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>>28424218
Actually all the posts in this thread are mine, the 20 minutes late screencap says so!1!!
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We're getting off topic. This thread is for
discussing changes to the board.

So what are our options?
Keep protesting GR15 which has been proven woefully ineffective?
Demand red?
Give up?


Even if by some miracle /mlp/ organized significant
resistance, mods still simply wouldn't care.
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>>28424255
>Keep protesting GR15 which has been proven woefully ineffective?
It's been pretty effective tbqh.
If you want to talk about boards that are leaking, /pol/ outside of /pol/ is probably a much bigger problem than GR15.

>Demand red?
I'm fine with spoilered red, but it's not gonna happen.

And a sticky, pretty please.
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>>28424255
Demand red. GR15 removal would never pass, but if it did, I doubt most people from /mlp/ would give a shit.
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>>28424255
Naaah, austist get triggered because someone samefagging with his opinion, as if mods woun't see when they actually get here to reach for the thoughts.
Fucking. Kids. Get. Out.
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>>28424248
If you paranoia goes so far, than I can only congratulate you with you power level, autismus.
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>>28424282
>mods
>get here to reach for the thoughts
Of all the things that are never going to happen, this one is the most delusional.
The last time a mod posted outside of a sticky was years ago.
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>>28424255
Allow spoilered NSFW. No anthro still applies, there's /trash/ for that.
Lift GR15 because someone getting legitimately triggered by a cartoon horse after it's been six years is a grade A bonafide autist. Everything else is covered by the shitposting/offtopic rules anyway.
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>>28424255
Red board. Why this place even has moderation beyond deleting illegal content and threads started by crossboard shitposters to take up space is beyond me. Anthro can stay banned for all I care, cause I hate you guys. GR15 is fine. I don't care. It's repeal, should it ever happen, and it won't, should only apply to like reaction images and shit tho. Otherwise you'll just wind up with pone threads on other boards and autists posting a pic of Twilight to make other autists rage.
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>Red board with spoilers activated for porn
>anthro general, where anthro is only allowed there
>EQG general
>If GR 15 can't be repealed, then at least add exceptions to where it'll make sense, such as posting MLP quests in /qst/, or about cosplaying in /cgl/, or about the toys in /toy/, etc.
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>>28424305
And what does it have to do with them reading trough, honestly?
Anyway, I get what you're saying.
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>>28421262
Now that we have /trash/, I'm pretty pleased with how /mlp/ is ran.
I can see how some people want a red board, but I personally don't see the need.

Not saying that it's perfect, I just think that there aren't any major problems that bother me. And I can't think of any rules that would make it better than it currently is. No amount of rules is going to make this place into an utopia. Board quality ultimately comes down to posters more than rules.

Sure, I'm for example not a fan of EQG, but I don't object to it being here. I can just use other threads.

>>28423285
I don't mind, honestly.
I'd like GR15 to be somewhat softer, so that MLP could actually be talked about where it's relevant (like /toy/ and /co/). I'm not in favour of GR15, but I can live with it.
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>>28424319
>MLP quests in /qst/
/qst/ is shit. Better keep them here.
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>>28424322
I'm just saying the mods don't really have a history of taking suggestions and discussing rules with the community.
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>>28424272
I meant that the protest of the rule is seemingly ineffective, not the rule itself.
There's no doubt whether GR15 itself is effective or not.
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>>28424340
>I'm just saying the mods don't really have a history of taking suggestions and discussing rules with the community.
But this time it's Hiro who came up with this.
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>>28424308
Kek
So you're okay with the anthro ban but not the pony ban. Okay lad
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>>28424272
Gr15 should be for /pol/ not us baka desu senpai

And the punishment for being /pol/ should be a permanent ban, getting doxxed, and possibly being framed for an unsolved murder
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>>28424379
My bad, I need to sleep.
You're right that GR15 protests have been pretty ineffective. I'm not sure if NSFW protests have been much better though.

>>28424387
Given than in the /qa/ threads hiro was actively encouraging people to create rule discussion threads at the same time those threads were getting deleted, it seems mods and hiro aren't exactly on the same page.
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>>28424388
t. furfag
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>>28424399
But he still listened to us when we asked for shit. It seems that he doesnt know how to manage mods though so they still do whatever the hell they want.
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>>28424417
This tbqh

>>28424423
He does a lot of listening, but not a lot of decision taking it seems.
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>>28424417
This, I kept wondering why the fuck 'h-hey what about anthro' is a recurring theme in this thread.

Gookmoot already made a shitass board for it.
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>>28424433
hey didn't m00t do the same with MLP?
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>>28424433
By that logic, we shouldn't make /mlp/ red because clop is allowed on that board as well.
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>>28424449
the difference is /trash/ is secretly good
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>>28424399
>My bad, I need to sleep.
My wording there was a tad unclear. It's my fault.

>>28424423
Hiro acts fucking clueless. He literally told boards to make threads
regarding regulations for mods. A DIRECT VIOLATION OF GR8!
https://www.4chan.org/rules

Seriously, look at this shit: >>>/qa/667528
I thought it was hysterical.
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>>28423044
I never seen that happen, but that's a bit stupid. Posting an image is one thing, but links are different.
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>>28424463
Nah, he was right. You should make threads regarding regulations and rules, but you also need to comply with the rules, so the thread is only for happy thoughts and compliments.
Or, the other, more likely possibility, Hirohito simply doesn't fucking know what he's doing yet again.
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>>28423582
As much as I hate GR15 if the board has to go for it to be removed then I'm fine with it still being here. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
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>>28421262
DELETE /MLP/
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>>28424520
>new IP
If you're gonna falseflag don't make it THAT obvious.
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>>28424520
Shut the fuck up, revenge fag
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>>28424520
>>>/q/
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>>28424520
(you)
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>>28424457
>By that logic, we shouldn't make /mlp/ red because clop is allowed on that board as well
Not that guy but, personally, that's why I'm not bothered about making /mlp/ red, anymore.
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>>28424515
There's no reason for /mlp/ to disappear just because gr15 does, don't listen to that faggot he's literally talking out his ass.

/vp/ exists without a "no pokeymans on other boards" rule.

Just allow reaction images on other boards and limited show discussion on /co/ . /mlp/ would still exist to keep the fandom shit and greentexts that /co/ doesn't want flooding the board, just like how clop on /trash/ isn't wanted here.
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>>28424552
People never got so butthurt about /vp/ that a special global rule was needed just so people would stop getting an aneurysm after seeing pastel ponies.
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>>28424559
And giving in to the autismos was a terrible mistake.
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>>28424568
Well, we got our own board as a result. Better than just getting b& and relegated to Ponychan.
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>>28424574
And even when they thought we were contained, they still got salty over it.
TWO STARS
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>>28424552
Agreed. Lifting GR15 would only mean that posting a pony reaction image, mentioning MLP on /co/ and so on would not be bannable. I don't know where this fag keeps getting the implication that removing GR15 must mean removing /mlp/ as well.
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>>28424559
But that just means /mlp/ would still be relevant sans GR15 as it would act as a lightning rod for all legitimate pony discussion.
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>>28424591
Sure, I don't question that.
I think the butthurt from removing GR15 would be legendary though.
We're still the most hated board apparently.
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This board will go before GR15 will.
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>>28424255
I think /mlp/ should be a nsfw board. They should also make a /fur/ and anthro is bannable here
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>>28424602
Is that you, God?
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>>28424628
>They should also make a /fur/
They did that before and it was fun. I was surprised when /trash/ wasn't /fur/ 2.0
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>>28424602
You wish Barneyfag
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>>28424628
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST0
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Ban ANY and ALL human content.
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>>28424657
No reason why.
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The only thing I want is for the sticky to come back and for moderation to increase
Shitposting gets out of control so frequently on this board
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>>28424665
Then look at the title of this board again and tell me which species it is about.
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>>28424657
>He thinks getting rid of half of the board is a good idea
lol
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>>28424669
Mods don't care.
They think adding a pony image or the phrase 'in equestria' makes a thread show related.
They also banned people for reporting glimmerspam a while back.
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>>28424678
The pony part is almost irrelevant.
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>>28424678
It's a board for everything MLP.
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>>28424678
Maybe you should look at rule 1 of /mlp/ first my lad
>This is the destination for ALL cartoon/anime pony RELATED content on 4chan.
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>>28424552
/vp/ has much higher board traffic than we do
I'm not afraid of the mods deleting this board after removing GR 15
I'm afraid of all of you anons leaving :(
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>>28424706
Nah

Where else am i gonna get my lood sleepover and anonfilly greens
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>>28421262
Make mulp board nsfw.
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>>28424727
fair enough
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>>28423847
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>>28424816
+1
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Can we at least get a trial red board?
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>>28425075
Now that there's /trash/ I'm actually pretty indifferent about it.
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>>28425175
see
>>28423256
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>>28423256
Why should we "overtake" /trash/? Can't we just, you know, use it normally?
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>>28425200
>He wants to be forced to two or three threads just because the fucking mods feel like it
Go fuck yourself.
We should have an entire board for porn and another for the show discussion, is not like we are a small bunch anyways.
/trash/ is already an insulting name after all, and you faggot want to be treated even worse.
>they gave us a shithole to post in and humiliated us, we should kiss their feet and let them fuck us raw with no lube, thank you overlords
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>>28425241
>an entire board for porn
fucking kek
have this (You), because you earned it
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>>28421262
ban posts that are just . or just linking to a previous post and nothing more, they're just a waste of space and usually because someone's too lazy to even bump a thread.
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>>28423104
I think the problem with that is then you've got the anthrofags and the >nohoovesfags and the humanfags and gayfags and the str8fags and the fetishfags all in one thread and all disliking the other to some degree and it just creates tension.

it might work in another community but this is "I don't like thing REEEEEEEEE" territory and would likely only end in shitposting or drama and then suddenly you have the kinda issues that led to AiE splintering off to form a million other generals.
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We will endure.
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Make /mlp/ red.

Hiro wins because he doesn't have to deal with
pony porn overflow in /trash/ >>28423256

Horsefuckers win because freedom.
Newfags learn or are BTFO.
Done.
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>>28425426
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>>28425426
.
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>>28422546
>>28422490
>>28422723
GR15 was really kind of so the mods could win while still acknowledging MLP was popular at the time and going to be a fad.

In 2009 mods really put board cultures to the executioner's block and starting trying to decide what was and wasn't going to be cool, but they were kind of assholes about it.

Ironically, I feel like moderation has been getting better since the site first started getting moderated, and if anything that /qa/ post and the tolerated existence of this one is a sign of that. The fact that /tg/ can't keep a thread about it alive is proof that there are still problems. I think I read somewhere once that most rebellions usually occur when things are on the upswing because the masses gain confidence, so think of that what you will.
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So GR15 and making MLP red are our top issues. Why don't we make a poll to see which one /mlp/ cares about more?
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You can have nice MLP threads on /b/ now.
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>>28425816
There's already a poll for making MLP red.
>>28425075

GR15 being changed has such a slim chance of happening that it's not worth considering. It'd be wasted effort in my opinion.
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Oh great. It's this thread again.

I don't know how anyone can spend more than a year here and still give a shit about the rules. The reason rule-breaking threads thrived is because newcomers saw that the posters made the rules, not the moderation. Bitching about moderation, tailoring your posting habits to spite the rules only validates their existence. If you stop acting like massive fucking autists about the rules, rulefags would stop digging their heels in so hard.
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>>28425879
>Rule-breaking threads thrived
This was true seven years ago and gave birth to a lot of the old site jokes you just don't see anymore. Where are you posting on 4chan where even straying off-topic doesn't get your thread deleted?
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>>28425935
>Where are you posting on 4chan where even straying off-topic doesn't get your thread deleted?
Right here, famalamadingdong. Meta threads are against the rules, yet here it is, and here it always will be.
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>>28425958
Oh. You mean this one thread that the site owner has made an explicit exception for. This thread that isn't actually breaking any rules because they have declared it to not be against the rules.

Thanks anon. I know people must not say this to you a lot, but you're not fuckin' retarded.
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>>28425973
You can go to the catalog right now, and see all the X in Equestria, IWTCIRD threads, and roleplaying threads if you like. Those off-topic threads stand, even though the moderation has stated that writefag bait, roleplaying, and shitposting threads are against the rules. Is it because they have exceptions made by the moderation too?
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>mfw we can't have porn thread, milky way and shits because this triggers louder rulefags
>mfw rulefags are sleeping we have porn threrad and meta threads without issues
>mfw any thread that produce content and discussion keeps alive till rulefag wake up
>mfw people want to be edgy just because it's 4chinchong and starts being a contrarian shitposter
>mfw people starts to use "arguments" when everything that needs is common sense/be an adult.
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>>28426026
>we can't have porn thread, milky way and shits because this triggers louder rulefags
Are you new? Rulefags aren't the reason we don't have those.
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>>28426042
No.
rip milky indeed
but we still have some brave jojojojo threads
they last for 4 hours and get image bump limit
these would last longer if the rulefagss didn't disturb it to death
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>>28426010
No. The reason those threads aren't being banned is because somebody in power went on a banning spree that confused and upset everybody. It didn't have a clear pattern and ban reasons listed were for "shitposting" and other nonsense. So when it came time for the mod to own up to the second scruffening, he had to tell everybody what he was banning.

The excuse he made was that he was stopping green prompts and other random things because I don't know - why the fuck not, I guess?

And the reason they aren't being banned currently is because that was retarded and season 6 of MLP isn't good enough for grown adults to talk about seriously for more than a day or so. The board is dying and banning content on the opinion "that it's shit" wasn't helping.
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>>28426062
>posting porn and resetting IP when banned
>brave
Sometimes I forget how invested people are into the happenings of this site.
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>>28426095
the images don't get deleted in those case till the thread get deleted
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>>28426082
>And the reason they aren't being banned currently is because that was retarded and season 6 of MLP isn't good enough for grown adults to talk about seriously for more than a day or so. The board is dying and banning content on the opinion "that it's shit" wasn't helping.
I agree that the massive deletions were because of janitor(s) taking initiative they didn't need to take, but the reason off-topic threads stand is because no one reports them. These threads have faded into the background.

What do you think is more likely? Honestly. What do you think is more likely? That mods and janitors delete stuff because of the mood they're in that day? Or, that they delete stuff that only gets sent to their report queue, and that lighter offenses are much less likely to be reported in the first place?
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>>28422318
This this this this this. Please.

>>28421656
Kill yourself fucking gringo. Voting for Trump won't kick us out. You're fucking stupid to believe that shit.
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>>28426182
Yes but if we can get rid of the roaches it's good. I hope Trump makes good on his promise and deports millions of illegal roaches back to Mexico.
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>28426197
Lmfao. You don't deserve this (You).
:3c
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>>28426233
You're welcome! ;3

Have another one.
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>>28423324
>>28423403
>>28423407
>>28421390
>>28421653

Removing GR15 wouldn't do a a damn thing. Even if it was erased, it would be treated like how Naruto is treated on /a/. It's allowed but the majority will never accept it and spam it down to hell and force it to get deleted by filling it with illegal content. Or sperging out "REEEE PONY!" into the IRC and thread where a mod would have no choice to delete it. Last time mods tried to say Naruto was OK on /a/ it didn't end so well. Same thing will happen.
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I honestly don't mind GR15 at this point.

Yes, it limit us, but at the same time this board's content trive of the generals and content makers now.

We're half of the speed of before, said content is split into greentext stories, cyoa, and fetish general. If the board was removed, it'd split between /co/, /qst/, and all the porn board, it'd get even more diluted and die.

GR15 is a fine price to pay to keep the board imo.

Now if we could become a green board tho...
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>>28426383
But what if we abolished GR15 and KEPT /mlp/?
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>>28426405
I would love that but I doubt the rest of the website would. GR15 was the compromise for the board. You already have plenty of autism from people like barneyfag who would've wished we ended up like /fur/ so that's why don't have too much hopes on that front.
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>>28426405
Not that Anon, but I don't see a point. The only change I could imagine is that porn will get posted on /b/, and pony reactions will be slightly more common. Other than that, what good does lifting it do? Why make pony threads outside of /mlp/?
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>>28426405
That would accelarate the death of this board. Which is rather why I say GR15 should stay.
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>>28426467
Most just want to be able to use images, not make threads. It's been six years. Things aren't the way they used to be. The entire site isn't going to be flooded with pony threads again.
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Make a red board, /mllp/. Users require 4chan pass to post there. It would lessen /mlp/ presence in /trash/ as hiro wanted and bring the site revenue. Essentially a red /mlp/ where awg and other explicit content can be posted.

Thoughts?
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>>28426512
True, but as others have said this would be hard to compromise.
Plus you only need a few trolls to gets tons of pseudo barneyfag angry, and they'd lash it on this place too.

I don't see it as worth the hassle.
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>>28426602
>Please let us give money to you, Hiro!
Dead before you even conceived it. Nobodies going to post on 4chan if they have to pay money to do so, it makes 0 fucking sense.
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>>28426602
> Users require 4chan pass to post there.
>Thoughts?
It'll be DOA.
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>>28426602
what about the poorfags?
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>>28426648
>>28426654
>>28426677
Just an idea lads, just an idea. I figured that would be the response, but went ahead and posted it.
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ITT: "Ban things I dont like"
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>>28426336
You know. I'm really of the opinion that we don't need the mods to decide what fads are and are not going to be cool. We really didn't need them to decide whether pony was going to be a thing, and their resistance to it is probably what made it so popular. And when the mods tried to embrace Naruto, the community didn't actually embrace Naruto. Mostly everybody was just mad at moot for encouraging the board to degrade.

I mean, you remember what he did when he got angry at /pol/? Removed the captcha and personally made the page complete garbage so that anyone who was there actually discussing politics in a real way would leave. And you know who didn't leave? The combative counter-cultural motherfuckers moot was mad at in the first place.

I just feel like the mods trying to control content or keep people in line without straying off topic was when the site because a whole lot less enjoyable. It's when we started getting general threads and reposts of the same thing all day, because the mods insisted that your cartoons shouldn't be touching your traditional games and anyone who applied one to the other does not belong.
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>>28426602
What the fuck for? Is the audience even there?
You know /trash/ exists, right? They have 4 MLP threads up right now.
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>>28426026
I wish we were able to have SFW crotchtits or Milky Way in /mlp/. Covered crotchboobs are as SFW as girl in bikini, right?
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>>28427060
What happened to milky way?
Porn spam?
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>>28426890
Mods are a part of the problem. I am all for allowing pony reaction images but keeping GR15. My fear is that the people who get triggered so easily by it will start mass trolling and raiding this board for it. I am certain that some mods get triggered by ponies and that isn't right for a mod but we as users can't do anything. This behavior is rampant on /co/ and /v/ where if a mod doesn't like something, it won't stay.
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>>28426602
>Make a 4chan Gold board
No.
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>All these anons engaging in the eternal unwinnable battle of "Make /mlp/ red" and "Remove GR15", and I'm just sitting here with >>28421281 wanting our sticky back.

Things are never going to go back to they way things used to be, since a significant portion of the old days were /mlp/ self moderating without much influence from mods.
We formed a rich board culture and a high wall for newfags, and things worked out pretty well.
When the Scruffening hit the users of /mlp/ lost power, and it was that power that kept the board good.

Too many people have left though, and our posters now are heavily splintered into their niche threads; no amount of board adjustments are going to change this fact.
General degradation of the show as well as SIX YEARS contribute to this as well, further noting how this type of change is natural and unavoidable.

I think the best thing for this board though would be to make janitors/mods more lax, remove the explicit general bans, and just let /mlp/ live a quiet life.
I don't want no trabble
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>>28422318
>>allow anthro
>>ban humanized
Nice b8. Here's your (You)
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>>28427643
>this
More rules are not going to help.
This is 4chan, and the fundamental principle of being able to enjoy this shit is being able to ignore the bad parts and contribute to the good parts.
The best thing to do is to let what little good can happen, happen on its own.
The only real good janitors and mods can do is to put up the episode sticky and keep HEY ANON from ruling the front page.
I don't even think the blue board should be strictly enforced. Who the hell looks at 4chan seriously expecting it to be SFW?
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>>28427643
>Just let /mlp/ live a quiet life.
All this board can do nowadays is slowly die.
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>>28426178
Why would anyone help the mods when they're mostly seen as our enemies? Nobody wants to report threads unless you're a rulefag/they clearly don't belong on this board.
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>>28421262
It's threads like >>>/qa/668709 that make you realize just how retarted Hiro actually is.
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>>28421262
FINAL SOLUTION
>board goes red
>no bans on specific content (as much as I hate EQG, we've seen how well banning only certain arbitrary things works)
>sticky
Mods & janitors should only have to get involved if something breaks the global rules. That's it. No other intervention.
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>>28424695
spooky scary skeletons spooky scary skeletons spooky scary skeletons spooky scary skeletons spooky scary skeletons
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>>28424305
Stranger things have happened.
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>>28428431
>April 2016 was just five months ago
feel so old
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>>28424255
I want as few constrains for /mlp/ as possible, so: YES, make the board NSFW
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My 2 cents are:

1) I would love GR15 to go, but I'm afraid it'll result in at least a month of explicit pony faggotry outbreak all over the site. The same it was with clop when the /trash/ have got launched.
So while it is something good in a long run, it'll stress out janitors on pretty much all the boards for an extended period of time, just so a relatively small group of people gets to use pony reaction images.
I don't think it worth the effort, to be honest.

2) I'm strictly against porn on /mlp. Fuck that. It will be /trash/ all over again with every second thread being pony porn for at least a month. I don't go on /mlp/ to see pony porn, and I don't get why would other people do so - there are other places for that, much better suited for the purpose. And for "muh one-two threads only" we already have trash for that purpose. If you're getting triggered by the board's name, I don't know how to help you there.

That being said, I'm perfectly fine with the "silent agreement" we have currently, when mods usually don't touch links to the nsfw material. It would be nice to have this stated as an actual rule.

3) I don't quite get the problem of "hi, anon" and various "roleplay". Most of the time such thread would've ended up either dead or with a green. In both cases everything was fine. Why ban them?

Overall, I am generally fine with the way moderation is done on /mlp/ when it is done in moderation.

We still get occasional porn threads, borderline porn threads, whatever else is forbidden by rules. In my opinion it's much funnier this way. For instance, I personally don't want porn on /mlp/, but when I see a porn thread nowadays, my thoughts aren't "oh god, fucking porn again" - it's "these absolute madmans are totally doing it". It's amuzing.
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>>28421281
>wanting shitty stickies to come back instead removing rule five and making /mlp/ red

Fucking stop. Please.
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>>28428936
>I'm strictly against porn on /mlp/
Then go back to the hugbox you came from. You clearly aren't around for long enough to matter if you haven't seen the days before the Scruffening.
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>>28421262
>implying hiro has anything to say
nazi mods rule this place and they only care about shekels
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E-celeb board would be nice.
Not as many of them here as on /v/ for example but it would really clean up the site.
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if we allow anything FIM related here, that means porn and/or anthro being posted. this means mass suicide of all the annoying rulecancer so you get 2 for the price of 1
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>>28428973
I've seen them, my little faggot. I've seen them and it wasn't very pleasing.
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>>28428936
>this entire post
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>>28427134
I wasn't aware of any porn in the Milky threads back then. Most of their OPs discouraged it, probably because they'd been warned by the moderation before.
I only started browsing them shortly before they were banned so I don't actually know.
The answer should be somewhere in >>28421394, probably the "The problem with the sex-orientated generals is that they could never be separated from NWS images regardless of how many bans we issued" bit.
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>>28429138
I think the first and second Scruffenings had the same thing in common in that the bannings felt random and unexplained at first, but then the mods retroactively assigned motives to what they were doing.

As I recall they were deleting a ton of stuff without prior warning, and they only explicitly wrote a list of targets after a few days of outraged users grousing about it.

I was there for both Scruffenings and all I remember is confusing during the mass deletions and bannings - like 30-60% of the board gone at once - and then later a statement saying they were only pruning a few types of generals or some very specific class of thread. Even the day after I couldn't tell you if they really were banning only the stuff they said they were banning.
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>I would love GR15 to go, but I'm afraid it'll result in at least a month of explicit pony faggotry outbreak all over the site
>The same it was with clop when the /trash/ have got launched
And now /trash/ is fine, living in peace and harmony with pony porn and everything else no other board wants.

>I don't think it worth the effort, to be honest
But this is the problem: the longer you leave it, the less people are going to want to go through said effort and the less likely it'll be that it gets rescinded.
The question I want to ask is what is the best way to remove the rule whilst keeping the shitstorm at a minimum: the solution I'll suggest is a gradual change in rules rather than the abrupt change most people imagine.

>I'm strictly against porn on /mlp/
>I don't go on /mlp/ to see pony porn, and I don't get why would other people do so
You weren't here in 2012, were you?
Given that /trash/ now exists, I personally think the desire to make /mlp/ red is outdated but I used to want it, too.
It used to be that /mlp/ was the only place for pony so people have been arguing since the beginning (or, at least, the Scruffening) for pony porn, too.

>We still get occasional porn threads, borderline porn threads, whatever else is forbidden by rules
>when I see a porn thread nowadays, my thoughts aren't "oh god, fucking porn again" - it's "these absolute madmans are totally doing it". It's amuzing
Glad to hear you're not wholly puritanical and know fun when you see it.
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>>28428961
making /mlp/ red would be a mistake
there are shitloads of places already for pony porn elsewhere on the internet and /trash/ exists now
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>>28429245
How do people get it in there heads that there was a golden age of pony porn? It was always against the rules and always got deleted. I've been here since mlpg on /co/ and don't really recall seeing it outside of the occasional thread.

Meanwhile, you look at dedicated red boards like /e/, /u/, and /gif/, and there is zero discussion of anything. Just porn dumps all day long. Anon, nobody is going to navigate through ten threads of wordlessly posted pony pussy if they want to say what little there is to say about the show these days.

To put it in a perspective you can understand better, imagine somebody added an "amateur gay" section to the catalogue and every time you came on the site, you had to find a pony thread in between multiple videos of a fat guy masturbating in front of his webcam. Making /mlp/ a red board would be like that, and pretty soon every thread is just a fat guy masturbating in front of his webcam because nobody can take themselves seriously posting actual discussion in that environment.
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>ITT: rulefags writing walls of text, trying to put some sense into their delusional crap
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>>28429252
And there;s shitloads of places to go for MLP related material too, yet we stay here for a reason.
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>>28429213
>second Scruffening
We had another one?
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>>28429351
Yeah, Scruffy came back and deleted tons of generals and random thread for no reason
Then he damage controlled with a temporary sticky that said he was banning Hi Anon and other writefag bait threads
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>>28429370
that wasn't scruffy. that was some other moron
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>>28429376
It was literally Scruffy
He signed at the end of the post
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>>28429370
I don't recall us being down to about three pages of threads and a sense that the board wouldn't last, so I wouldn't count that as another Scruffening.

Or maybe this board is just so dead compared to then that it doesn't make a difference.
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>>28429245
>the longer you leave it, the less people are going to want to go through said effort and the less likely it'll be that it gets rescinded.

Exactly, it's like pulling off a bandaid, it's best to just rip it off real fast, and you don't want to leave it there forever.
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>>28429394
scruffy made the sticky but he didn't do the scruffening 2.0
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>>28423128
If I remember correctly /vp/ is a board that has a lot of issues with the janitors and mods being shitty. That might just be the exception and not the rule.
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>>28423167
It's NSFW if you would get arrested for showing it in public. IE wearing skintight panties is legal however not wearing anything and showing off your bits would land you in jail.

>>28423285
I think GR15 needs to stay, at least in some form. Though I would be fine with discussing how it might be changed. There are some things that are covered that probably shouldn't be, and there are times where people get b& for things that aren't even remotely pone related because the mods are uneducated. Maybe just removing it on /b/ or something would be fine.

>>28429399
Stop using linear projections, nobody uses them for populations except retards. I shouldn't have to explain this.
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>>28429285
>How do people get it in their heads that there was a golden age of pony porn?
Because there was more porn then than there is now. You couldn't really call it a "golden age" but it wasn't as tepid as it is now.

>It was always against the rules
Yes.
>always got deleted
No. The mod at the time even said that jannies were having difficulties doing their jobs because of software reasons (I somewhat have difficulty believing this: I just thought we were neglected).

>I don't really recall seeing it outside of the occasional thread
True, it was only one or two threads but I'd say they were rather frequent.

>look at dedicated red boards like /e/, /u/, and /gif/
>there is zero discussion of anything. Just porn dumps all day long
I don't think you can make such comparisons between /e/, /u/, /gif/ and a red /mlp/.
/e/ and /u/ are dedicated to porn and not discussion.
/gif/ is dedicated to posting gif and the reason why it's nothing but porn is because /wsg/ exists.
I'd say a red /mlp/ would look a lot more like a pony /b/. Don't forget, this is the only place on 4chan you can talk pony (and /trash/ too).
Granted, the porn threads themselves won't have any discussion.

>Nobody is going to navigate through ten threads of wordlessly posted pony pussy if they want to say what little there is to say about the show these days
Ten threads covers a row and a quarter of the catalogue on my screen and makes one fifteenth of the entire board. I think you'll find people can easily look over them for what they want.
On top of that, there's the search function and filters people can use.

>pretty soon every thread is just a fat guy masturbating in front of his webcam because nobody can take themselves seriously posting actual discussion in that environment
Ignoring the slippery slope fallacy (because sometimes I think the slope is real), I think you're over-estimating how much porn will be posted.
On top of that, I don't think it'll put people off from discussing the show.
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>>28430266
>I just thought we were neglected
and you are right. but don't ask for the sauce on this
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>>28430280
>I'm totally legit guys
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>>28430298
aww, damn! looks like i'm full of shit
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>>28430313
Aye. That's just the old leak, friend.
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>>28430313
You are
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>>28430320
i wonder who leaked it
>>28430323
you know better, mom
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>>28430336
>i wonder who leaked it
Well there's been multiple leaks, but mostly it was leet haxors IIRC. I think the last one was Strayamoot but don't quote me on that.
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>>28430367
there's been multiple people leaving
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