CYOA Discussion

pls no billy

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Yeeeah baby, work that grill.

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>>27813414

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Resuming Miracle: Experimintal boogaloo.
>>27813457

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>>27813471

What Quest would each of the Mane 6 ponies would play? You can include other pons if you want.

>>27813589
They would play any you write them as playing.

>>27813589
Twilight would play tinepone

>>27813386
Why can't I bully ponies?

>>27813882

Because they aren't real.

>>27813933
None of us are real

>>27813933

Our QMs aren't real?
Then who or what creates the quests?

Anonpone when?

>>27814022
Let the dead rest.

>>27813995
That's a QM, he's trying to fool you into thinking he's not a pony.

Don't believe his lies.

>>27813589
>What Quest would each of the Mane 6 ponies would play?
Twilight would play Tinepone. Science and stuff. Diode bridges and potentiometers.
Dash would play Super. You get to have cool powers and kick ass. Motorcycles and explosions.
Rarity would play Dirty Work. Drama and relationships. Intrigue and overacting.
Fluttershy would play Lyraquest. Comfy and safe, with not that much that wants to kill you.
Applejack would play Alchemy. A classic western style adventure with nice, clear tasks.
Ponk would play everything.

>>27813589
Spoke would play Super, see we aren't a hero, and then stop playing.

>>27813589
Twilight would play friendship is tragic

!Bully the players

>>27814331
Sorry, you made the right choice and were on the track to the best ending, but you rolled badly so you're dead.

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>>27814331
You will never hug this pony.

a good way to know how your QM runs is how well they play their cards.

anyone play ygo

>>27814417
Course I do, but I'm lagging behind the meta a bit.
My deck's probably two years old at this point.

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>>27813995
Robots.

>>27814551
Hi MechaBath! How's the robot invasion?

Crystal symphony is a comfy quest about cute ponies in Cutequestria.

>>27815035
That Whispen was uncalled for.

Page 8 bump

>>27815191
ur uncalled for

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>>27816163
Gotem

Whispen a small

Why do you play quests /cyoa/?

What will it take for you to try my quest CYOA?

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I deliver as promised, Linkeh

>>27816503
To tell me what it is for starters.

>>27816515
The reason thing was stupid btw and I am very angry at my brain. Sorry about that

>>27816515
Now fishpone. Swimming instead of walking.

>>27816559
Wolvan got one, let some other quests have some fanart too

>>27816585
But I like fishpones.
Okay, different fish pone. Flo.

Active threads

NE: >>27764517
FOE: >>27755882
Alchemy: >>27569338
JAD: >>27733059
War in the North: >>27760418
Planeswalker: >>27804924
SIM: >>27658879
Cursequest: >>27754263
4th Quest: >>27811324
Crystal Symphony: >>27787434
La Marionnette D'ombre: >>27809950
Vampony: >>27790388
DITA: >>27789827
Miracle: >>27780298

>>27816515
She's adorable.

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>>27816624

ded

>>27816942
QT pone. Thanks.

I need hot opinions, stat.

>>27817497
You have a pretty mane.

>>27817497
I don't think DFU really deserves such high praise.

>>27817497
Nips quests are only good because of the art, Wolvan can actually write, and Bath is not as edgy as he thinks he is.

>>27817525
Yes
Ehr...
Haha no

>>27817525
True.
He's alright at best.
He definitely is.

>>27817525
>Nips quests are only good because of the art
That's not an opinion though.

>>27817497
Coltquest players ruin everything.

>>27817570
Also not an opinion.

Name 14 cyoa waifus. Okay, ready?

They are now all trapped on a deserted island for a year. How does it play out? Do they get along? Can they survive?

>>27817592
>14
I can barely name one.

>>27817592
Fucking 14? At that point you end up just naming off female characters. Well... it might be possible between the cast of SS, WitN, NE, and Cursequest. How about 5 or 6?

>>27817592
Muffin Top
Whispen
Voltage
Eve
Ast
Nightlight
Tara
Silver
Autumn
Shanty
Lovesick
Basil
Lithy
Angel

>>27817651
>Autumn
Which one?

>>27817707
DFU Autumn.

>>27818033
Alive.

Resuming Miracle: Lovely boogaloo.
>>27818121

>>27818124
Literally who?

Sonic in Canterlot High CYOA when?

Who is best girl

>>27818443
(you)

>>27818443
Res

>>27818443
Inept

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Remember the browserpone script I made? Yeah, spent most of my day working on that. Fixed the bug on anonpone that changing pages kills the ponies. Added Silver into the list. Also finally made the automatic selection selectable and it works now, if anyone gives a shit.
Oh, I also managed to make it work on all 3 /mlp/ archives, so I guess that's good?

>>27818574
Link?

>>27818574
Custos/Circle when?

>>27818587
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28785759/5chan/CYOA%20Browserponers.user.js
After installing either press Alt+P on /mlp/ or anonpone or click the little button in the top right that looks like a tiny pony to get to the menu

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War in the North continues:
>>27818769

>>27818443
SWC is best girl. Please run Curse.

>>27816474
I want to forget about the omnipresent feeling of nothingness with a bit of pain and regret I feel everytime I wake up.

>>27818601
maybe on thursday if my week allows it

>>27818812
So the same reason that I run them. Got it.

>>27818812
Hey, that's why I run a Quest! What a coincidence.

>>27818823
>>27818826
Running doesn't really help.

>>27817525
Bath thinks he's edgier than he is but is really aware that he's not so he overcompensates by being even more edgy, despite the fact he doesn't enjoy it when he's being that edgy and neither does anyone else.

>>27818834
then it's time to run happy quests, bath

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>>27789827

The Bar is, once again, Open.

Not wanting to be this pretty at the moment edition.

REMOVE SILLY

>>27819441
Good thing Blitz isn't.

>>27819570
Oh no, Blitz, your ideas are great.

Now go sit in the corner and let the rest of us do the thinking.

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>>27818989
Ahh my head! What are you doing to my world!?

>>27819640
Group leaders don't get put in the corner..

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The search for poison joke now continues!
>>27819850

>>27819862
Time to invade some privacy in the name of SCIENCE!

>>27819858
>mare with unshorn fetlocks
but y

artfags taking requests when
and what's wrong with the legs of that poor pony >>27813386

>>27820079
Vampony:Bathtub blues.

>>27820164
The way you don't use quotation marks for Mango's dialogue bothers me immensely.

>>27820192
Me too. Poor style choice.

>>27820192
>>27820200
Thirding.

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>>27820192
Holy shit how have I never noticed this? I am triggered by this CYOA I don't even read.

>>27820192
>>27820200
>>27820218
Um, ok then I'll just change that and use quotations for her.

>>27820235
Every time VampFruit runs, I drop Vamp. His dialogue is incredibly stilted and stream of consciousness.
He also seems to hate commas and I can't believe he spends more than a second proofreading his posts.

Maybe the content's okay, but his writing is unreadable.

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>>27820283

Curse is alive, but only briefly. I can't stick around for more than about three hours today.

>>27820258
Examples:
>you're not hungry for starters or not that hungry anyway. You're a bit peckish but in control.
Which equates to:
You're not hungry, you're not hungry. You're a little hungry.

>I had a bowl of oatmeal this morning then I spent my evening reading from my library may be practiced some magic or learned a new spell".
Run-on sentence, punctuation outside of the parenthesis, 'may be,' no commas or hard stops to break it up.

When you don't use punctuation, your writing doesn't flow. Lack of commas and hard stops makes your writing difficult to read. Seeing as you're allegedly a college student, I'm frankly shocked you haven't learned this by now.

>>27820298
>parenthesis
Quotation marks, excuse me.

>>27820298
He uses correct punctuation when he DMs.

>>27820258
>Maybe the content's ok.

>Hey, I know you hate me but we should cuddle in the tub!
>Fine.
Killed me. The incident prior to that was kind of out of character, but I could imagine something snapping. Then it just got more absurd.

>>27820325
Actually, looking further at his writing, I don't think he knows what a comma does.

I don't care how competent a DM he is, he's a trash QM.

>>27820295
>>>27820283
Did someone step on a bug?

>>27820258
>>27820298
I'm sorry I'm disappointing.
But thank you for the critical look in my writing I'll try my best to keep these things in mind.

>>27820390
This is exactly what I'm talking about.

>But thank you for the critical look in my writing I'll try my best to keep these things in mind.
Run-on sentence. Put a hard stop in there so it doesn't read awkwardly.

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>>27820295
bug

{There, is... (literally.) Nothing; wrong-with wrong? 'use'}
~Of punctuation!

>>27820436
Thanks, Cammy.

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>>27820446
Why would you type that?

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>Inept meta shitposts about his players being stupid for a giggle
>his stupid players think he's serious and get mad

>>27820597
Inept pls

I want to beat a dead horse!

>>27820628
I'm not Inept.

>>27820631
You've come to the right place.

>>27820637
Inept pls

>>27820597
>he
>implying inept wasn't actually serious

Reminder that player are salty retards

Man, gotta love narcotics induced sleeping, especially when I'm running, amirite?

So, question to all you QMs out there. Anything dumb like that delay your posts when running? Things that make players think you died in the middle of drawing or writing?

>>27820652
We know, QM. We are but lowly Players, unworthy of your presence. Please forgive us of our ignorance.

>>27820723
Yes. Talking about random bullshit in secret club.

>>27820731
Sorry anon but your stupidity hurt my feelings.
Now go away and kill yourself.

>>27820744
I'm sorry. How may I kill myself?

>>27820723
Sheer exhaustion. I've fallen asleep on the keyboard countless times.

>>27820809
With birthday candles.

WHat do you do when you just can't motivate yourself to run, besides "just doing it"?

>>27820899
Give up, and find a nice high bridge to jump off of.

>>27820899
Say I'm sick.

>>27820899
Abandon your quest without a word and come back a year later.

>>27820899
There is no magic wand or concoction. There is no prayer that will call the quest fairy to whisper sweet secrets to your ear. Just fucking do it you pussy.

>>27821154
I just, i'd like to but I can't think straight. My ability to come up with stuff is directly linked to my motivation.

>>27820899
Really? Just make yourself sit down and write for 5 minutes.

If you still don't want to run after 5 minutes, then don't.

>>27821459

If 5 minutes was all it took to give up, most of the quests probably wouldn't be here.

We have too many purposely stupid mc's

>>27821687
But MCs do what the players tell them to.

>>27821687
We have like 2.

>>27821687

It's not too late to tell them to grow up, smarten up, and act like adults.

>>27821687
>Obviously mad at Curse Quest's recent antics
Cmon anon, stop being such a downer and smile.

>>27821639
This made me smile. Thanks, anon, I appreciate it.

>>27821639
Smart and cute!

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>>27821735
>act like an adult

>>27821743
It was the reminder of that time Gar was trapped under a box for a whole night.

>>27821650
It most always works for me.

If like 15 minutes later I'm still writing, then great! I'll run tonight.
If five minutes later I'm still forcing myself to write, then it wouldn't be a good idea to run.

I need a Bottle Cap reference

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>>27821813

>>27821813
[witty reference to Cursequest]

>>27821822
I don't think those are his Qt mark colors....

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Dammit this was for! >>27792414

>>27821955
This >>27793442
I was trying to quote that but I forgot how to 4chan. Fuck!

>>27821942
>>27821946
>>27821955
>>27821970
lmao who cares

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>>27821983
Apparently I do.

Also forgot to draw glasses.

>>27822084
Bath how drunk are you?
No one wears glasses to sleep.

>>27821983
It's alright anon, just cause you're parents don't love you doesn't mean you have the right to be a dick.

>>27822094
Which is why they're on the ground.

>>27818715
is anyone even using that shit? Show your poners!

>>27822094
14, 14 drunk.

>>27822105
I don't know how to use it.

>>27822100
He's extra drunk, leaving the glasses on the floor just like that.

>>27822116
It's a userscript. Install Greasemonkey for Firefox or Tampermonkey for Chrome and then open the the link to the Userscript. It should ask you if you want to install the thing

>>27822127
She'll find em.

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It's dead Jim

>>27822194
Does she have a long neck?

>>27822216
naw she's just on her back hooves, peeping over the edge.

>>27822241
That gives me the cutest imagery.

>>27822127
I get the impression that she fell asleep with them on, accidentally.

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>>27822288
4thquest: pumpkin panic edition

>>27822084
That butt tho.

I never find ponies sexy, what is happening to me?

>>27822194
soon Anon

any of the newer games any good

>>27822617
>Are any of the newer quests any good?
Numb is pretty good. Planeswalker is alright.

>>27822747
That's not what they said anon.

>>27822840
I know, but I wanted to passive-aggressively correct their grammar in addition to answering them.

I'm a bad person.

Name your most favourite thing about the quests you current play.

>>27823029
They momentarily take my mind off of the horrible crushing disappointment of my day to day life.

They also have cute little ponies in them.

>>27823084

>Quests containing cute ponies.
Please point me to these quests, I can't find a single one.

>>27823306
What is Curse Quest
Neat's kinda cute, too

>>27820723
Being dead tired and alcohol. Sometimes simultaneously.

>>27820899
Running without any motivation besides "just run" will make your session more shit and it will be tiring for you. Wait some time, do other things, listen to some music, then try to write a post. If you still don't want to run, then don't do it. But tell your players.

>>27823583
It is especially hard for those who don't use greentext to tell their CYOAs.

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Slow ride

>>27824183
Easy a fat

>>27823778
comic/visual-novel -like cyoa with the text only on the pictures when

>>27824482
In 5 hours

Horsey for president!

lmao memes

>QM Question
To the aspiring QMs out there: What's stopping you from running that game you've got fermenting in your head? If you need help or suggestions, mention it in your post!

>Player Question
What do you think about additional, game-y systems used in several of the CYOAs? What is your favorite? Which is the one you hate the most?

>>27824931
The fact that I'm already running one

I think they drag things out too long

>>27824931
>What's stopping you from running that game you've got fermenting in your head?
My current CYOA.

>System I like the most.
Any system that I can't see.
>System I like the least.
I don't play many quests with visible systems, so I'll just say anytime the QM allows the system to be the primary decision maker in the quest.
When the success or failure of an action is more dependent on the roll of a die than the actual merit of the suggestion, that's when I dislike a system.

>>27824607
horsey a dead

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>>27824931
>system

>>27824931
>To the aspiring QMs
muh english
>Player Question
The only systems I don't like are battle systems.

>>27824931
>What's stopping you from running that game you've got fermenting in your head?
The fact that I'd rather play, and QMing cuts into the amount of time I would have to do that.

>What do you think about additional, game-y systems used in several of the CYOAs?
I dislike them.
>What is your favorite?
Flipping a coin as a tiebreaker.
>Which is the one you hate the most?
Anything with a lot of random elements. I trust a QM to be fair and weigh the merits of the players' suggestions. I trust dice to get Squeezy killed right before the boss battle.

>>27825009
To be fair, the one course of action was really dumb, and it was even dumber for no one to vote against it.
However, for that one decision to basically end the CYOA makes me sad.

We had this discussion in sekrit last night, but the ending of Heat is a good example of dice treated poorly. A single roll changed the story from good end to bad end.

>tfw your cyoa is crap

>>27825055
Anon, we've been over this.

Ask for help with your trip on or shut your mouth.

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>>27825055
>my cyoa is bad and i won't say who i am :(

>>27824931

Depression/anxiety, the fear that my creative writing won't be good enough, overthinking ideas until I burn out on them. Those are the usuals; might be getting a second job to add to the list shortly.

As far as systems, not a big fan of knowing about them. They can have their place and each QM probably uses them (if they do) for different reasons; just know that there's a line between using something to help in telling the story and letting it rule it or ruin it through lucky/unlucky chance.

>>27825009
>>27825033
In the specific case of endings the problem isn't so much the dice as it is the QM treating them differently.
They think that because it's the grand finale and the stakes are higher the dice rolls become more important.
They don't. If you wouldn't have killed them with one roll half way through the story you shouldn't be doing it now.
Narrative elements should increase in importance, but dice should remain the simple background function they always were.
You should also never introduce a situation where there is not chance of succeeding without rolling a dice.

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>My life for master Yuri, sir.

DUDE

BATS

LMAO

!time shade

>>27825184
The dead don't have a timezone.

>>27825218
!time Circle magic

!time doxel

>>27825093
fuck off fgt

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>>27825392
No u

now I want art of dragon Easy

>>27825481
Me too, Anon. Any artfag willing, please?

If I may, a few words of sagely advice to vincent: If you have your players arguing in a loop like >>27825415 and >>27825477 , with no majority or strength of argument winning to you, it's okay to nudge towards the beneficial choice or try to steer away from a potentially catastrophic one. This seems to be one of those rare circumstances that a teensy bit of railroading might help everyone out, otherwise your playerbase is going to keep being angry at each other until a polarizing choice is made at your whim anyways.

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>>27825524
No matter what they decide there will be regrets.

Ok, I'm mostly done being a worthless lazy ass excuse of a human

So Blord tomorrow, for realzies

Also, instread of featuring Gust in the OP, I made a seperate coloured picture of him because it didn't fit with the OP I had in mind

>>27825567
>You're going to suffer anyway, just flip a coin.

>>27825567
Sleep tight, Auraora Flare

>>27825667
Does she actually sleep?

>>27825895
Only when she use to much dark magic.

>>27825895
And has dreams too.

>>27825567

You need to erase one of the legs in that image.

Big pon for big bully

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>>27825941
Ebin

>>27825950
Nyx a gud girl

>>27825916
What does she dream of?

>>27826221
Crystal sheep?

>>27826221
Finding her perfect husbando.

>>27826221
not being a virgin

>>27826249
One's dick would have to be diamonds to penetrate that hymen.

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>>27826265
Someone must answer the call.

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Psker probably loves this.

>>27824931
Player here. I genuinely dislike systems in quests if I can see them. I prefer narration. If there are numbers and rolls present, but QM can hide all of it, it's fine.

Describe an MC with a Disney song.

>>27826288
Sombra's dildo?

>>27825567
Just like in real life!

>>27826409
Hellfire

>>27826409
Hakuna Matata

>>27826586
Colt Quest?

>>27826611
Not the one I was thinking

>>27826566
Virginharder?

>>27826652
No

>>27826566
Bath or Inept quest?

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Good night /cyoag/

>>27826679
no

>>27826708
Dirty Work?

>>27826714
Either I expected too much or you guys are just really bad.
Besides, they never said to guess the MC.

War in the North continues:
>>27826736

Resuming Miracle: Extatic boogaloo.
>>27825992
>>27826777

>>27826900
Alive again.

>>27826729
>spoiler
I am boiling with rage right now. Please send me water.

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>>27789827
The Bar is, once again, Open.
Stolen Recipes Edition.

If you can guess the drink I "Borrowed" then, Iunno, you get a cookie.

>>27826409
Friend Like Me

>>27827144
He said MC, not Joy.

>>27826409

Kiss the Girl

>>27827144
Djinn CYOA where you just get to fuck with ponies when?

>>27827169
Discord Quest?

>>27826409

Make a man out of you.

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Which /cyoa/ pony do you feel is the least powerful? Or most underpowered? Which one do you think has just the right amount of power?

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>>27827512
I think I know where this is going!

>>27827512
The ones that don't have powers or abilities.

>>27827512
Underpowered in what regard? Are we talking magic powers and stuff, or like a socially inept poner?

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You know what? I'm tired of veiling this question. It's time to bite the bullet.

How do I QM better? What can I do to improve my
>art?
>writing?
>plots?
>characters?
>setting?
>prompts?
>puzzles?
>other shit?

I don't want to be mediocre forever. How do I REALLY git gud?

>>27827664
Aren't you already considered one of the top qm's out there?

>>27827673
no

>>27827673
She's been here the longest, never heard inept called among the best.

>>27827664
>plots
>setting
Depends entirely on the CYOA you've set up.

>>27827664
Your biggest problem as a QM tends to be inflexibility.

As a player, I feel that you tend to have one 'correct' idea of how things should go, and very rarely consider alternate suggestions.
The problem with your puzzles is along this same vein. You have one solution in mind, and the players often get frustrated and annoyed because they have to fuck around until they find the one solution.

Try to have at least 3 solutions in mind, and try to seriously consider what your players are thinking. Just because it's not what you had in mind doesn't necessarily mean it should be wrong.

When you play, there seems to be a lot of animosity between you and your players. "Oh, there goes inept calling us morons again," or, "Oh great, we didn't think the exact same thing as the QM, so we're dead."
I think you should try to strive for a more positive relationship between player and QM.
Don't hand out punishment so regularly, work with your players, not against them.

>>27827664
A good thing to know is that if you can make characters people really like you can get away with fuckin' anything. Faster updates would be nice too.

>>27827743
But your goal shouldn't be to get away with stuff.

Why not fix what you're doing wrong instead of trying to get away with it by pretty pictures or good characters?

How do you make good prompts?

>>27827767
>inept
>pretty pictures

>>27827767
What if you can't agree on what's "fixing" it?

>>27827767
Hey, all I'm saying is that if you make a good character people will be all over that shit. Also Doxel, which may or may not be a downside. He'll go on and on about your quest for fucking ever.

>>27827792
But then you turn into an insufferable egotistical prick like Cammy.

>>27827803
Seconded.

>>27827803
Is he bad? I've never noticed anything particularity negative about him.

>>27827774
By not making bad ones.

>>27827834
I get that you're fucking around and all that, that's fine whatever. But I really would like some advice on this, it's the biggest thing i'm always smashing my head against.

>>27827664
Your puzzles a shit.
Don't provide solutions. Provide problems and resources. Always more resources than you think they'll need so they have room to experiment.

>>27827726
>Try to have at least 3 solutions in mind,
You don't really need to have a bunch of solutions in mind. You do usually need at least one so that you can push towards it if they're floundering badly, but other than that just be open to player pursuing other solutions.

>Don't hand out punishment so regularly,
Or do. Inept's punishments weren't a problem until she started handing them out seldomly, they started to clash with the rest of the cyoas. She could very well go back to a more gamey style with more frequent punishments to fix some of her issues.

>>27827830
He's probably fine while running, but in secret club, he acts like a real asshole.

He's the kind of content creator who thinks everything he does, especially his writing and art, is fantastic and flawless. He also regularly goes on about how he quote, "has no respect" for anyone he sees as worse than him.

I'm pretty sure it comes from Doxel repeatedly sucking his dick over how much he loves his quest.

He only runs a small CYOA with a fair handful of players, but he thinks he's CYOA's next big thing.

>>27827830
Secret club stuff that shouldn't influence anything if you play his CYOA.

>>27827871
Hmm, i'm in secret club and I haven't really noticed, but then again i'm not around super often. WH

>>27827726
I haven't done that in a while though, have I? I thought that with FiT and especially Tinepone that the whole "choose your own" part of the CYOA's really became more prevalent.

>>27827775
How do I make prettier pictures in a timely fashion?
I'm this close to caving and buying a tablet just so I can crank out scratchy Bathwater pictures at high speed instead of EVERYPIXELMUSTBEPERFECT pictures once every hour or so.

>>27827871
He'll also never post without his trip, which gets pretty fucking annoying.

For the two, maybe three Planeswalker Pony players, the game will pick up tomorrow night around 9pm eastern. Now that our mc is seemingly going to lose her virginity, how about a quick poll so I can sketch something related to it ahead of time. If you aren't playing the quest you can still vote if you're so inclined.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10684088

>>27827887
I actually really like your art, it's a nice, unique style.

>>27827871
>especially his writing and art, is fantastic and flawless
Tell me of one time when I didn't accept critique.
>He also regularly goes on about how he quote, "has no respect" for anyone he sees as worse than him.
What?
I said I haven't seen much in Wolvan that I think really deserves respect, but as I also said I am sure there has to be SOMETHING from him that I'd respect only I haven't seen it in the SC.
Other than that I've said I don't respect people in certain aspects. I don't hold respect for Nips as a writer, for example, but I do for him as a drawer. I don't respect Doxel in character building for reasons we've already discussed in the SC, but I respect him from a moral standpoint. We all compartmentalize our opinions about people.
>for anyone he sees as worse than him.
...what? I can be egocentric, but I've never berated someone outright. The only argument I've had was with Gimp for reasons unrelated to this.
>I'm pretty sure it comes from Doxel repeatedly sucking his dick over how much he loves his quest.
I won't lie, this can be get annoying sometimes. It's nearly impossible to mention it without him appearing.
>but he thinks he's CYOA's next big thing.
I mention Miracle often, I've noticed it, but I do it because as I've said I don't read many other CYOA's. Hell, I still haven't read Nips' gay moth thing.

Also
>Bringing shit from the sekrit club as anonymouse
Learn where to do what AND grow some balls and tell me things to the face. If you criticise me for how I act somewhere, do it in that place.
>>27827925
I forget it on pretty often, just like I tend to forget putting it in again and QM without it for a few posts.

>>27827957
>Letting non-players vote on a semi-important story decision
Careful. The last time this happened, the CYOA died.

>>27827969
>One time you don't accept critique
Any time someone mentions how fucking confusing your story is.
"No, it's supposed to be that way!"

>>27827969
>I mention Miracle often, I've noticed it, but I do it because as I've said I don't read many other CYOA's. Hell, I still haven't read Nips' gay moth thing.
Why is that what came to mind? The gay moth thing is like 3 years old and wasn't a big wave when he ran it.

>>27827969
You're just throwing shit now.

>>27827994
Your responding for both, Inept's quests and Planeswalker.

>>27827969
>I don't respect Doxel in character building for reasons we've already discussed in the SC
Oh really? Tell me your Doxel hot opinions.

>>27827969
>What?
>Goes on to explain exactly what I'm talking about.

Yeah, your ego is a huge problem.

>>27827925
I'm not in secret club and I've picked up on it. Normally I wouldn't say anything but if he really is the kind of asshole that says shit like that then fuck him. You could be a big fat liar too though and maybe he's just memeing.

>>27827969
>>27827995
There were a couple times where someone mentioned something critical and it was handwaved with 'muh tone'. Which is the writing equivalent to 'muh style'. That's about the only instances I can think of dismissiveness. In a quest about exploration and learning there should be a lot of mystery and uncertainty, so players not having information is expected.

>>27828013
Doxel likes really strong character traits and it can make characters that feel cartoony. See Sharpie, Harmony, or any of the ponies from Boat Quest. They're all turned up to eleven.

>>27828052
Makes sense, he doesn't care at all for my CYOAs ever since he started poking around.

>>27828045
The problem here is saying "your respect" as if that is something of value to anyone.

>>27827969
>damage control
>just makes it worse

>>27828031
I'm not >>27827871 And I wish cammy was memeing. He's tolerable at best but he starts shit often.

>>27828061
What do you run that has mystical anti-Doxel powers?

>>27828063
I'm not Cammy, did you misquote? Regardless I don't see an issue with the stance itself, though the presentation does indicate an egocentric attitude. Going out of your way to bring your respect into a conversation as if anyone should care is much like Psker going out of his way to direct attention to himself as if anyone should care about what he does. Makes you look like a dick even if no one gives a shit about you or what you do.

>>27827664
>Inept
You should run things you enjoy more. I frequently get the feeling that your heart might not be in it all the way, and I don't want you to just run out of obligation.

>>27827969
>Cammy
You sound a bit full of yourself in this post, but that doesn't make you a worse QM or anything, so who gives a shit.

>>27828052
>Doxel
I love all three of those quests you just mentioned.

>>27828136
You should do an advice blurb for all the qm's you can.

>>27827995
Accepting critique does not mean agreeing with it. Critique may be wrong or right.
One of Miracle's main themes is obfuscation.
Also, a lot of people there has gotten me wrong in this because of the kiss thing-- it's not mocking the guy for what I know was an honest mistake, it's just that I find the original phrase funny.
>>27827999
Because I've intended to read it for two years I think. I don't read many cyoas.
>>27828063
"My respect" is wording I use to leave it clear it's an opinion. I may joke about being more angry than I actually am, but generally I try to at least be polite with the people I am talking to/about.
About the ego, yeah, I think it's because I am often too strongly opinionated. Used to be far worse, been working on it since I was 15 I think.
>>27828066
>but he starts shit often.
I had the already mentioned argument with Gimp and... I don't remember any other argument that went beyond a few lines of text.
I also berated Wolv a few times for his "I am worthless" talk a few times, but even then the discussion was pretty short.
Oh, and the Bath thing, which I did at 2 AM and for which I already apologized.

And as I've already said, if you have problems with me related to the SC tell me in the SC. It's stupid to have arguments about other place here.

>>27828166
The argument is not about this place or that place, it's about you.

>>27828182
About how I act somewhere else.
A lot of people in this thread don't give a fuck about the SC.

>this shit right now
So does it go anywhere, or do you guys just want to fling shit around until we hit 500?

>>27827887
I really need to start doing actual line art instead of cleaning up sketches, don't I?

>>27828211
Please do because your style looks fucking beautiful when you do and like a shitshow anytime else.

>>27828208

Well, we actually were talking with Inept and sort of offering advice. Which is one of the things this thread is for and surprisingly productive sometimes.

But then it turned into >muh opinions on QMs.

So let's try to get it back on topic. What would you advise to help QMs get better at art or prompts or general characterizations? Are there any examples of these things you would wish to showcase? Which cyoa's have the best prompts? Which has the best characters?

I would ask about art, but I assume people are just going to immediately jump to >Muh Nips Quests.

>>27828223
Maybe once I get a bit faster, the reason I don't is to save time while I'm running... then again that's no way to stop being shit.

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>>27828136
You're very intuitive.
...
Seed gathering for the winter now continues!

>>27828255

>No link to the quest.
Inept, you're slipping. Is being an old QM getting to you?

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>tfw still no Super.
>just as we were about to go on a date.

Just like real life!

>>27828255
>very intuitive
It's pretty obvious at times. Certainly was during Threshold.

>>27828269
>Anon is about to go on a date
>Checks clover on phone
>Still no super.

>>27813386

More title pics of ponies being billied/hosed off when?

>>27828265
Whoops.
>>27828247

>>27828252
Bath, I've never ever had a thing for hooves but you could easily give me a joof fetish. Your hooves are so pleasing to my eyes it's not funny.

>>27828166
>muh themes
I'm not gonna talk about what you do in sc, or the shit you're pulling now, but I will talk about your quest

To be frank, the art isn't the best. Actually no cyoa art is very good. But your shadows and inconsistences trigger the fuck out of me.

Now a reminder here, I don't play your quest so my hot opinions shouldn't matter too much.

The writing is just something I can't stand to read. Most of what I see is just
I did this
I think that
And now and with doing and you can.
I am--
--this that
Hm oh... i.... hm(oh man look, i notice that)
Along with the fact that you tend to forget to add a prompt. I can't provide much advice other than check out the writefag guild, and try different art styles.

>>27828406

But he does do different art styles. They're just worse than the actual pixel art style.

Reminder that the content of a QM's character is separate from the quality of their work. You can be a shit person with a great quest or vice versa.

>>27828406
I agree that the writing is the main reason I didn't pick up Miracle. It's stylistic in a way that reads very poorly.

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>>27828406
>>27828468
My writing is rarely good before the third revision or so, trying to solve it is one of the reasons that made me QM. Sadly, I find myself forgetting to proofread before posting all too often. I'll try to form an habit.
>Along with the fact that you tend to forget to add a prompt
You mean as in giving something clear for the players to do? In that case yeah, I tend to soft prompts FAR too often.
>To be frank, the art isn't the best
Nooperony, I am definitely not a drawer even if I enjoy doing it from time to time. I'll probably do a redoing of most of Miracle's sprites when I am done with Sacrifice, solving some problems that I've had pointed out. Pic related was my first test in that.

Thanks for the critics, I'll keep them in mind.

>>27828556
Your pixels are just too damn big.

>>27827887
Woah whoa whoa, you don't have a tablet? You did this pic with a mouse? >>27828255

>>27828615
What?

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>>27828656
Everything Inept does is with a mouse and in paint.

>>27828667
His pixels are too damn big.

>>27828685
What did he mean by this?

>>27828656
Inept does everything with a mouse and Doxel does everything on an iPad. Everyone else uses drawing tablets.

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>>27828656
>>27828656
She's been doing it for years after all.

>>27828698
I don't, curve, line and pressure tools are the only tools you need.

>>27828689
I still don't know what you mean.
It's pixel art.

>>27828689
He meant the size of the pixels is greater than what is preferred or tolerable.

>>27828705
I honestly thought that was just a meme until she mentioned buying a tablet.

>>27828737
Nah, it's interesting to watch her stream when she can.

>>27828728
Someone have that tutorial about pixel art, and pixel size?

>>27828747
No.

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>>27828698
I've thought about doing everything on my kindle since I broke my labtop. What program does Doxel use? Here's a pinkie pie to summon him.

You can ignore this if it's some apple exclusive thing.

>>27828844

I think it's called You doodle or something.

There's another program called medibang which actually has a pretty decent app for android that is also free. I don't know anything about Kindles so I have no idea if it will work.

>>27828844
>>27828878
Mediband is also available for Iphone.

>>27828656
No, that's fanart.
But yeah, the stuff I do is all mouse-based.
Even THAT stuff.

>>27828878
Thanks man, Kindles can run any android app, some you have to "side load", but thats a whole 'nother thing.

I paid for some app called Artflow, which was working great until it started to frequently crash and drop pics I was working on. Lattely I've been trying out Autodesk which has worked good so far, but will be pricey for the full version.

>>27828878
Medibang is pretty rad. I use it when I run normally.
It's similar to Firealpaca, but unfortunately there's no linux or android ports for FA

>>27829036
Both FA and MB run in wine without a hitch.
Now that I think of it, it's possible to run debian in android. I wonder if you can install wine in it and run FA with it.

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And finally, I think [Pic related] for >>27792379 is about as done as it's going to get.

We're getting raided, watch your threads.

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>>27829070
Oh shit, this is great, thanks Bath. This is really cute and they're happy like they deserve to be.

But you also reminded me how much of a forgetful fuck I am. Cause I forgot to make the changes and post them here.

>>27829166
It's cool man, also, That Buttons and Squeezy you drew up is pretty tight as well.

>>27829127
I'll bump threads i don't even read because i believe they should die naturally not from a raid.

>>27829204
Thanks! I'm glad to hear you think so.