RAGE RISING

Continuity is collapsing, who is responsible for this?

>>26894878
The Jews

>>26894907
It's true.

>>26894604
They are here for the money on a easy cartoon show, they didn't expect to find this community and its autism. Natural, but still a crime when others did it better in the past

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>>26894604
He doesn't know what he's doing and he doesn't care. If the entire community expressed their opinion about this shit, Hasbro would either tell this faggot to actually watch the show or kick him, to keep the brony money

>>26895133
This is nothing new from Haber. He is notorious for being a jackass. If you get the chance, watch his panel at Babscon last year. He not only looked like he didn't want to be there, but he also came off as cold, distant, and kind of a douchebag.

Some anon from here asked him "If he could be anywhere else right now where would he be" because we all picked up at Haber's dickhead attitude

>>26895342
I'll do it, I love watching the show staff trying to be normal people on a sea of autism

But at least most of them try to flow with it or just doesn't attend the cons. Trying to do something decent but failing is one thing, being there for the money is the cancer that kills the show

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>>26894951
>>26895133
>>26895342
>>26895500
Are you guys pretending to be retarded or are you really this autistic?

If Larson were doing the same thing with all of you you would love it.

>>26895518
Larson was at least a fun guy

>>26895518
No, we really wouldn't.

Haber was a fucktard that never cared about the fandom or even the show itself. You're an even bigger fucktard for that kind of assumption. If I wasn't a narcastic asshole I might've been offended by you.

>>26895500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6e9vjkawgo

While I admit he does have a decent sense of humor, he really does come off as smug and uncaring. Haber's problem is that he doesn't care about his work. To him its all about the money. If he worked on say Steven Universe or even Adventure Time, he would be the same exact way. What's sad is Haber is literally working on a goldmine of a show, and he still doesn't care.

>>26895518
Except if Larson did that we'd hate him as well. But Larson doesn't so your argument is invalid. There is a difference between caring for your work and simply not giving a fuck and just be in it for the money like Haber is.

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>>26895518
im enjoying the bants myself.

>>26894604
>His avatar is an infant
How fitting

>>26895518

>>26895556 posted it before me. Larson did well as a writer and was overall ok on the social media

>>26895546
Haber could at least show some kind of emotion toward the show. But really when you read his tweets and watch his panel at Babscon, he just comes off as a cold hearted businessman who cares nothing about his product, only the money it will make.

>>26895570
His kid is gonna grow up to be a dick like him, someone should let him know he's setting a bad example for his daughter and see what happens/

Why does Haber need to care?
The huge issue is that nothing is going to change until Hasbro starts to feel the same blowback Capcom did with Street Fighter.

>>26895616
There's a difference between not caring and only being in it for the money.

>>26895518
Larson was fun at the cons. He was nerding out around Faust like Capper General around Larson.

Larosn, Amy Rogers and Mccarthy actually enjoy the cartoon and the characters. Follow the stories just like we do.

People like Haber and Levinger are casuals. Levinger asked about favourite character just kept stuttering until Larson caught her off. Asked about favourite episode they say something like "eehm..the first one was the best..." because they can't even remember their own scripts.

Larson and Amy could name you every episode, every moment and every character on the spot. You will never get such response with any of the new writers. Big Jim is the only one remaining with enough knowledge but he's too much of a Hasbro shilling douche to play along with any brony at the panels. He will just repeat the same shit about watching the show and that he can't say anything interesting.

>>26895639
They seem pretty similar to me.

>>26895616
Because Hasbro knows the show is a fucking goldmine and believes the bronies and fans love all the writers. If the hate against Haber continues to grow, Hasbro will get nervous and can his ass. Losing fans=Losing Money, and Hasbro doesn't want a liability like Haber around fucking up their money train.

>>26895642
Next con Jim goes to, we need the real Murrison to show up. Jim secretly fucking loves that guy

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>>26895642
Are you talking about the convention panel where Levinger was so plastered she could barely speak and realized that after one sentence so she was quiet for most of it?

And honestly? I thought the premiere was handled pretty well and had actually realistic dialogue. It didn't feel like many episodes of the show that are full of stilted, unnatural conversations.

If this is what "him not caring about the show" looks like, it's fine with me.

>>26895661
I don't like to ruin peoples shit but I want to make him a liability. He already is to the canon anyway.

>>26895661

You are completely insane if you think Hasbro high command even bothers reading twitter comments.

Besides I'll take a cold hearted businessman over mongoloids that suck brony cock and writes like shit anyday. That premiere was 10 times better than the four two parters Mhegan Mccarthy wrote.

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At least he doesn't pretend that he care.

>>26895616
He could not care and be good. But he isn't, and that just angers people more

>>26895696

Absolute madman. I think I'm in love. Can't wait to see how bronies react to somebody that does not care for them nor lets spergs like Murrison push them around.

>>26895696
See like, how do people look at this and not realize that he's trying to fuck with us?

>>26895711
How do we do it? We need to figure a way to organize it.

>>26895724
>autism

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>>26895696
I really hope enough people wise up to his shit, let's see how smug he is when he loses his job.

is she drunk or something?

>>26895680
Everyone was fucking wasted on that panel. Larson, Levinger, even McCarthy were all drunk. Fuck Megan even tweeted out before the panel that she was drinking at some bar with the writers. God knows how many they all had.

>>26895680
He literally just amused you with pure filler. nothing in that episode was vital nor explored any significant development between main characters. The only meaningfull interaction was between Starlight and Sunburst and since Sunburst is going to show up less than Moondancer, entire epsidoe was pointless and anyone can skip it when doing a marathon of S6.

>>26895685
>Besides I'll take a cold hearted businessman
Yes because that's working so well for say Konami right now, who are so fucking universally hated that the only reason they make any money is because the Yakuza is keeping them in business.

>>26895696
>Jeremy Whitley read the Journal to learn more about Sombra and Crystal Heart
>He also read Berrow book to know more about Cadance

I think he would be a better story editor. At least he give a a fuck about research. Not to mention he's ocnfirmed to watch every episode.

>>26895720

Don't worry. This fandom can't hate the staff of this show.

https://derpiboo.ru/1118671
https://derpiboo.ru/1118690

Haber would include flash sentry to the mane 7 and create 10 more alicorn and the fandom will damage control for him

>>26895746
Guess you missed every single scene with Spike and Starlight then.

>>26895746
Exactly this.

Most of the episode was a filler.

Fuck it, near enough the entire episode. I actually felt bored watching it and now I'm aware it's not me being out of touch, it was the episode itself. Anyone know how many episodes he has written this season?

>>26895763

Just because it doesn't work for them it doesn't mean it never works. Some genuine classics were made by cold people who simply have good work ethics.

After all, look at this show, some of the writers that act like fanboys about their own work simply suck shit at it, there's two sides on that coin, if not four, but that would be getting into metaphysical money.

All I ask is that someone produce good episodes. I don't give a shit about them sucking my dick or asking for my forgiveness.

>>26895783
>filler
character interactions, slice of life, and building up to a plot and finale isnt filler.

hell, its what everyone always bitches about around here that there isnt enough of, and now everyones bitching about that.

>>26895696
I'm sure his daughter is gonna read these tweets one day and realize how much of her dad is an asshat.

>>26895746

By your retarded logic most episodes of the show are "filler" period, because they have ALWAYS focused on character interaction and breezy fun tales over plot and revelations. Their worst episodes have been the ones that forget that core.

>>26895812
You kidding? I hate filler. I always have. I'm in the minority of wanting more action scenes like the s4 finale.

Back in S1 before Season 2 was even close to release I absolutely hated the S1 finale. All that build up and it was a filler episode.

>>26895661
So do you think Jim Sterling has a point that if we kick off enough of a shit that ANY noticeable damage to the brand will cause Hasbro to react?

>>26895685
>That premiere was 10 times better than the four two parters Mhegan Mccarthy wrote.
Yeah, that's a bit TOO obvious there, Josh.

>>26895703
But he doesn't have to be good unless it is damaging Hasbro's brand.

>>26895873
That's what I was afraid of but c'mon. What else are we meant to do?

>>26895741
You need to get pretty shitfaced before being able to handle a horde of convention-going bronies.

I don't think I could keep a straight face seeing all the cringe.

>>26895870

And you're HEAVILY inadequate if the best argument you can provide is "ur th guy i dont like".

I used to find the term neo-/mlp/ stupid, but some of you folks really show a disturbingly widespread insipid demeanor.

>>26895794
>Some genuine classics were made by cold people who simply have good work ethics.
That only works every now and then, and its pretty rare that its successful. The last time it worked was with Disney when Michael Eisner took over. He stated on record that he could literally care less about Disney's cartoons, movies, or legacy. He was there to make money and make money only. And it worked for him and Disney because he made things people liked, and made sure he had the right people working around him. Also helped that he was a Jew.

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Everyone need to calm down. This would be a joke, after all Josh want to be Larson 2.0

>>26895842
I don't even know what to say to this. How much bad taste do you have to have to not like the S1 finale? And I liked the S4 finale but I know that kind of thing is not the core of the show.

>>26895842
Did you like the "leaked" animatic that came out?

>>26895908
I've seen a decent amount of con panels at MLP cons, but never before I have seen them that wasted. Everyone in that audience knew they were drunk, fuck even /mlp/ did the moment it started.

>>26895962
In comparison to the s5 premire?

Yes, I liked it more.

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>>26895880
But he is damaging the quality of the program.
Hasbro doesn't care, but we do.

The "leaked" animatic looked like a more interesting interpretation of this episode than what we got.

>>26895912
You really do sound like him. Are you pulling my leg now?

>>26895981
S6 you mean?

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>>26894604
They've struck some low chords in terms of writing but semi-retcon is retarded.
>We can't be bothered to maintain internal consistency.
Poor discussion and apathetic world design should be frightening for viewers and the storyboard guys.
>Confusion is good for you

What the fuck.

>>26895981
>>26895985

Hi slashy

>>>/out/

>>26895892
>>26895941
By telling as many people as you can to flood his twitter? Sure doesn't sound like a raid, I guess you're right. :^)

>>26895889
>What else are we meant to do?
Not take it so fucking seriously? What people seem to be interpreting as "fucking up the canon" was two lines that *might* vaguely imply no alicorns were previously born, but thanks to multiple established canon explanations we know this isn't the case yet people are still making this misinterpretation.

>>26895968
What panel was that?

>>26895962
Are you kidding? For a few minutes of footage without dialogue we saw more interesting gags and setups than what we actually got.

What a shame.

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>>26895944
>someone comment is proof enough against his own words

>>26895944
>>26895955
Checked

>>26895998
Fuck off Josh.

>>26895776
He didn't care. Had to get his 'edgy' on.

I didn't even like the episode that much but there was some good character dev.

Oh, and this guy >>26895518 is completely right. Haber is being a bit of a wank but this is really nothing to get worked up about.

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>raidfag deleted

Thanks mods

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>>26895955
>>26895944

>>26895962
Yes.
I really like the other design for Sunburst.

>>26895983
There is nothing that can be done unless it hurts Hasbro's bottom line.

>>26896030
>mod ass-sucking
Back to Derpibooru.

>>26895985
I wonder how Josh would feel.

I want to make a compilation of Josh "I don't give shit about MLP" Haber twitter and post that in derpibooru.

>>26896051
That doesn't mean we should accept him.

>>26896069
It will just get deleted. Derpibooru sucks MLP staff cocks big time.

>>26896067
Josh: So sometimes viewers will write better stories than the writers. It is not the end of the world.

>>26896097
Nope they keep drama shit on there all the time.

>>26896097
That's news to me, they have kept loads of drama shit on there.

>>26896112
Reasonable.

>>26896112

Someone need to make a fake tweet of that, i would handle a ban in derpibooru just for the reaction of the fandom

>>26896120
>>26896133
If it gives the appearance that it is criticizing a person, it will get deleted.

So a compilation of Haber's posts and something that mocks him will get deleted.

>>26896053
>not praising that based mod

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>>26895133
>or kick him, to keep the brony money

lol, holy shit, you really think you're that important

>>26895570
Is it fitting because he has to deal with man-infants like you bronies?

it's weird hearing everybody shit on Haber considering how much /mlp/ used to love him and call him based
makes sense though, the curtain was unveiled and a simple old man was revealed to be behind it all

>>26896140
I will do it for you, would you like a normal tweet or a phone tweet, phone tweet will take longer for remote debugging.

Who should he be replying to? May I reference the fake animatic in the tweet he is replying to?

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>>26896168
holy shit

>>26896147
What you testing anon?

>>26896159
There have been things left on there mocking Big Jim. Would you like me to show you?

>>26896097
Most of the Harber tweets have pretty unfavorable views onhim though.

>>26896168
Kek

>>26895962
Yes

>>26896168
As a dedicated writefag I 100% agree with his sentiments. You ever go a week straight writing nothing but lowest-common denominator comedy and terrible smut? You kind of start hating words after a point.

I just got a temporary block when I wasn't directly involved in the alledged 'raid'

thanks to whoever reported, you're a massive cunt.

>>26896168
Than why is he writing freakin mongloid?
It's like how Lara Croft hates tombs.

>>26896167
I rarely come to this place. When was Haber loved and why? Really curious.

Also, keep hearing McCarthy changed jobs. Or something. Is this so? That would make me sad.

>>26896168
Maybe he should stop writing then.

>>26896165
I might have agreed if this were season 2 but MLP:FiM is the longest running MLP installment to date. The adult fandom is keeping this show alive past its expiry date.

>>26896030
You're aware announcing a report is against the rules right? And now you're looking awfully suspicious, good to know how little you care for the show though.

>>26896224
As someone who once wrote a thesis, I think I've been there just from a different angle.

Do you really think we can whine to the point that Hasbro gets worried?

>>26896202
No, just make the picture and prove me wrong by posting it there, if you care so much.

>>26896261
>thesis
you poor faget. i bet you hate words.

>>26896188

>would you like a normal tweet or a phone tweet

Phone tweet, with that i would avoid for a little time the "source" problem

>Who should he be replying to?

maybe a random account, this will be the hard part

>May I reference the fake animatic in the tweet he is replying to?


That would be a must, add a pic of the scene of pinkie or spike with her "power up" armor

>>26896264
Make what picture?

>>26896229
>>26896240
>implying he's serious

>>26894907
God damned hook noses are at it again

>>26896224
>not writing over +1000 words a day
What a disgrace

>>26896168
THEN WHY DID YOU BECOME A WRITER?

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>>26896236
Haber has been loved here since day 1, when Castle-Mania came out /mlp/ found his twitter account and thought all the jokes he were making were hilarious because he was writing for a children's show

>>26896263
No.

>>26896274
Do you want me to post the picture here first?

>>26896263
No. They will just cancel the show and find a new cash cow.

>>26896273
Oh I did. I really did. That was a few years ago though

That would be quite problematic if anyone from derpibooru lurk the thread,

Just make a Imgur link

>>26896274
So the pics will be in his post?

>>26896295
What a year to join this hellhole

>>26896295
I'm a little sad "worst tripfag" was taken off the poll on that year. I could have easily won that spot.

>>26896168
>people can't tell this is sarcasm
Ok really guys? I hate him too but I'm not that autistically oblivious.

This is your future, family

You praised this guy at first, and look where he is now

You did nothing to stop it

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>>26896263
You are so stupid you make Tidus laugh

>>26896350

Nope, just in the random account.

Haber showing a pic of the leak look quite stupid because "we don't lurk the fandom" rule

>>26896363
>crows chocking to death

>>26896369
Big Jim was following it closely though.

>>26896377

But he never show any pic of the fandom or the leak in his tweet, the fandom ask about those pics.

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>>26896168
tryingtoohard/10

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>>26896243
No it isn't. That's just brony vanity because in reality nothing you do matters to anyone, except perhaps your psych

Bad news about the tweet guys, pictures don't show up on mobile.

>>26894604

>thinking books are canon to the fucking show
Haber is right, you autists would prefer your headcanon to whatever he makes official
Literally nothing wrong with what he said

>>26896295
You really think that was praise? please, it was just because his edgy tweets and the whole "omg hes one of us" image

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>>26896550
Hey, you're back.
We really got a pick out a name for you.

The Journal of the Two Sisters is not show canon.

>>26896650

Welp, make a normal tweet instead

>WAAH WHY ISN'T HE A FAN OF THE FANDOM LIKE MYSELF
>WHY WON'T HE MAKE MY FANFICS CANON

Haber is exactly what the show needs to stay good. He's actually doing new things and writing character based stories that relate to real life issues (losing touch with old friends)

Would you prefer a Meghan opener where there's a random villain who has no relevance to the plot but still exists just because? Haber knows what he's doing, and the fact he can use self deprecating humor and talk himself down shows that he's grounded and doesn't consider his work perfect or faultless (as no writer should)

>>26896734
I have a phone tweet made, would you like me to post it here first?
>>26896739
I would prefer a Meghan based plot.

>>26896739
the latter.

>>26896739
Meghan's stories still had great characterization and they were FUN! I miss her already.

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>>26896550
>No it isn't.
yes, it is.

>>26896739
>"I'm shit guys"
>"wow so gud groundbraking 10/10 i crie everitime"

>>26896739
Animatics felt like a McCarthy version of this episode...

Fuck I miss her already.

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>>26894604
Why is everyone mad? Books aren't canon unless confirmed by the show. Jeeze...

>>26896817

Just do it

>>26896956
REEEEE
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEE

>>26896739
>Would you prefer a Meghan opener where there's a random villain who has no relevance to the plot but still exists just because?
Yes, yes I would

>>26896956

/mlp/ only houses the most autistic of autists
I guarantee you if you did a poll of this thread, most people would think that the comics are canon to the show despite the fact they directly contradict show lore and otherwise include absolutely retarded concepts like moon furbies that have no place in the show?

>>26896739
Latter by far, I was hyped for the powerups and disappointed when it didn't happen.

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>>26896994
I'm just saying that this gives us new and exciting things to speculate about. Think of the books and comics in the same way you think of Star Wars Expanded Universe. "Star Wars Legends"

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>>26896991
Already did, it is on Derpibooru now and the comments are quite civil.

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>>26896168
he's just being an edgy faggot now
fuck him

>>26896673
almost every single time he was mentioned people here said how based he was

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S2 Opener
S5 Opener
S1 Opener
S4 Opener
S6 Opener
S3 Opener
Why is everyone mad (also refute this list you can't' tip a pro meme but maybe u can)

Faggot doesn't care as he comes up with shit on the spot, he probably only watched the show and didn't even read the story bible. No books or no comics or whatever, he does not care.

>>26897068
>I hate all writing
>edgy
Will you fuckers stop missusing that word already?

>>26897093

S6 opener is easily above S4 opener
There was actual character drama, realistic friendship issues that actually occur in real life, and it wasn't a shameless fanservice exposition dump

>>26897093
S3 opener was pretty awesome, Sombra was wasted potential but at least he had potential.

Spike and Twilight are always amazing on their adventures.
And the Pinkie disguise gag was the best.

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>>26897120
nice. you refuted my list and I actually totally agree with you

>>26897097
>He probably only watched the show.
That's not bad. That is decent leg work on his part. This is like being mad at the writers because there was an episode in season 5 where Applejacks's hat is destroyed and muh headcanons say that the hat was AJ's dad's. You can't expect writers to be autist tier fans of the show.

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>>26897093
>S1 above Season 4 opener

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What is the huge hate towards Derpibooru?

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>>26897161
S3 Opener was a good episode, I'll give you that.

>>26897120
Yeah, I really feel like the S6 opener deserves a lot more credit than what everyone's giving it.

>>26897190

Name one thing that happened in the S4 opener that wasn't meaningless exposition

>>26897188
Yes you do, you have to know what the fuck you are writting about. Especially six seasons in, there's a lot of story you can fuck up.

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>>26897209
People DO give credit to it.
You would see much spike glimmer and sunburst if it wasn't for it.
But that fucking baby man, that fucking baby.

>>26897117
nah, he's clearly only saying that to sound cool, which is edgy

he wouldn't be doing what he does if he actually hated all writing

he's a cynical edgy fuck

>>26894604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGuJ3tvKgo8

JOIN ME IN RAGE, BROTHERS

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>>26897216
Okay, but watching all of the show (all the canon stuff) is enough to do this. He doesn't need to go into fucking Barnes and Nobles looking for obscure Daring Do books and IDW comics. Your standards are too high.

>>26897214
Define exposition.
Most of the episode was then trying to unfuck things.

>>26897232
>*You wouldn't

>>26897246
Previous writters spoiled me. I don't care if he doesn't care and it's only a job for him, he shouldn't be an ass about it for all the fans to see.

>>26897209

The best plot (starlight and sunburst) was the B-plot, so I can half understand if people don't think about that primarily. I was worried about the baby (I imagine most were) but it turned out alright. The biggest mistake people are making is that they assume the show isn't in on the joke of how much of an asshole the baby was. It was pretty clear with how telegraphed it all was ("I don't know what I'd do without this book" *cue baby fucking everything up in an elaborate reflected shot* "ohhhhhh nooooooooo") - it was definitely played for humor.
Maybe that doesn't work on everyone in the same way that some people don't like cringe humor because they project themselves into it and feel shit or something, I don't know.

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Why don't we just kidnap his daughter and not give her back until he can answer 10 lore questions in a row?
We just need someone willing to babysit the kid.

>>26897267
>he shouldn't be an ass about it for all the fans to see.

Why not? Are your feelings so fragile that you aren't able to find deprecating humor funny?

>>26897267
You know, I'm probably totally wrong about this, but I feel like if I was a writer for a show I'd make an effort to watch the show. If not the entire show, then I'd at least get an idea of what the fandom considers the best episodes from a character development standpoint and watch those.
It seems kind of childish to just go into writing a show knowing fuck all about it because you want the paycheck. What happened to taking pride in your work?

>>26897232
that fucking baby was just a stronger version of pumpkin cake. why are people so triggered?

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>>26897267
I'll admit, the show staff has always been A and B the C of D. Guess now we have to settle for a quality professional who doesn't engage with autists. We need to get better at handling the banter. Head on over to /pol/ sometime to start building up a high tolerance for banter and racism

This opener wasn't bad, but I was teased with something really crazy with the animatics and didn't get it.

>>26897267
>he shouldn't be an ass about it for all the fans to see
tumblr, pls. the children who watch the show arent following his twitter.

>>26897330
>believing slashy
your opinions no longer matter you gullible dumbass.

>>26897313
>then I'd at least get an idea of what the fandom considers the best episodes from a character development standpoint and watch those.

You want him to pander to the fanbase? I don't know if you've watched any of those shitty youtube reviews of episodes but they are NOT good analyses of how to make a good episode, and are often straight out wrong or autistically nitpicky to the point where they miss the point of an episode

https://derpibooru.org/1118754

What's this belief that Derpibooru is shit?

>>26897330
Me too, anon. What we got was still pretty good though.

>>26897346
Does it matter if your glorious king made it or not?
It was still interesting.

>actually wanting powerups
Do you have no fucking standards? Pone is a show about characters, not battles

ITT: Josh Haber defense forces

>>26897294
Ironic bad ideas are still bad ideas.
>>26897330
If it was going to replace Flurry Heart causing the winter to some madness involving powerups that would have been amazing.

>>26897375
Guardians of Harmony?

>>26897386

Better to be a haberfag than an EU fanficfag

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>>26897386
>ITT reasonable people explaining to autists why they are autists and should calm down
FTFY ^:)

>>26894604
>Autists thinking Equestria = the entire world of FiM.
>Ignoring that that fanon was sunk in S1.
>ignoring that Discord and HWE destroyed the wreckage.

What else is new. Oddly firmly I'm somewhat liking Haber's "uck this autismo shit" attitude. It's something of a breath of fresh air.

>>26897330
>The opener wasn't bad.
It was actually really bad, anon. That was one of the most exposition-heavy children's cartoons I've ever seen. Most of the first part was droning on about what the conflict is about. Then the entire second part was the baby destroying everything. Then there was also that trash with Glimmer and her ex boyfriend, where she comes to his house, leaves, comes back, and I don't know does whatever.

Nothing was neatly wrapped up or presented and I came away from it thinking the best next step would be to exile the baby far away from living ponies.

>>26897407
>Ironic bad ideas are still bad ideas.

Not in a comedy. You might have forgotten, but that's what MLP is.

>>26897375
It would have been a far more character building element than Rainbow Power or possibly even the EoH.

Those Hero Items or whatever would have probably added to the series. Besides, you can't seriously tell me you prefer broken Crystal Heart to that.

>>26897313
how do you know that he didn't watch the entire show? , people are bitching because he didn't read a fucking book

>>26897421
Glimmer and Sunburst was really good.

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>>26897421
It's almost like they want to get new people interested in the show

>>26897421
>Then there was also that trash with Glimmer and her ex boyfriend, where she comes to his house, leaves, comes back, and I don't know does whatever.

I have never had a friend let alone one who I lost touch with: the post

>ITT People who actually care about the show and good writing in general
>As well as greasy neckbeards who just jumped on the bandwagon and think it's okay to not give a shit about cartoons
Or in other words, nerds and normies.

But taking into consideration where we are, one of these two does not belong.

>>26897424
The joke wasn't made apparent enough, it didn't hit hard that it was trying to be a parody of the shitty baby episodes.

>>26897463

Maybe you should think harder anon :)

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>>26897407
It's not a bad idea when that's the fucking joke and it works.

>>26897421
Autism, ladies and gentlemen

>>26897375
Ewww I don't want your standards. The powerups looked to be fun as hell, even the shit that was being shown off looked like it had massive gag potential.

>>26897330
The writers don't have the creativity to make something that crazy. I am sorry you had to find out the hard way.

>>26897484

MLP is not a video game, nor is it a superhero show

Haber is a really shit Tara

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>>26894604
All this drama because he didn't read a fucking book ,Are you people THAT retarded?

>>26897093
you know, putting the openers next to each other I realize that S6 opener was without a doubt the worst opener yet
S2 Opener>S5 Opener>S1 Opener>S4 Opener> S3 Opener > S6 Opener
good taste though mate

>>26897537
It's because he doesn't care.

It's like being into the Harry Potter series (or whatever thing you like) just for the author to switch out halfway through and suddenly his parents are alive again.

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>>26897562
Thanks. Although I still stand by my list. with maybe the edit of S6 tied with S4.

>>26894604
Wait. People actually give a rat's ass about a book about the show? That's all fluff that's for fun, like the comics.

>>26897432
Truthfully I do. I hated both of those, they and the power of love thing got tiring. Starlight's shit and even McFlurry's problem utilized something unseen in previous bookends. Twilight having to think and/or lecture to get shit done rather than, struggle, struggle, Oh shit five minutes left Elements/Loveshield/Rainbow Ponyan 3 out of nowhere. Hell the only reason I give the Crystal Heart (Sombra edition) a pass is that it was heavily implied to be something that could fuck him hard, what with all the shit he put up to ensure it wasn't obtained.

I was glad we didn't get Elements 3.0.

>>26897435
Hell people are bitching because Celestia said (to paraphrase) an alicorn being born was something Equestria hadn't seen before. And given that Bridle Gossip disproved the Equestria=World of MLP thing it's not a fucking retcon, or goddamn canon slip-up.

>>26897601
you severely underestimate how autism works

>>26897618
this
People are taking for granted the fact that haber actually uses proper solutions to problems that are established and built up in the plot as opposed to rainbow lasering them

It's like somebody becomes a president, starts doing shit without reading what actual statistics are and then saying "confusion is good for you". What kind of attitude is that? Why isn't he fired yet? I didn't even hate the episode, though you must admit it was severely decompressed.

>>26897573
In Harry Potter his parents being dead were established since the beginning,
But celestia and luna being born alicorns, were never established in the SHOW itself"

>>26897504
Yet has weapon mcguffins since s1e1.

>>26897562
I prefer S3s to S4
>>26897504
It totally should be, Power Ponies was great!
>>26897618
How were the Hero Items (at least as they were shown) not fundamentally different than the EoH or Rainbow Power? They had more in common with the Power Ponies than they did with that.

>>26897618
The comics called the planet Earth.

>>26897692
Because he has to do noticeable damage to the brand or to sales.

>>26895569
What's this from, need source.

>>26897725
Oh, good point.

>>26897664
Fuck off Haber.

>>26897692

There are no 'actual statistics' in this metaphor though
Haber didn't contradict anything besides headcanon, which has no authority

There is still the loophole of 'equestria' - celestia and luna were born before equestria was created.

>>26897776
Or they were born outside of Equestria.

>>26897357
Fucking this. There was exactly ONE of those faggots who got that Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep was about self-flaggelation, not depression and self-harm. And that shit was clearer than Crystal Rarara.

>>26897450
>They want new people interested in the show
By doing what? Making use of clunky writing and introducing a super powerful baby who only cries once, and only to kill her entire kingdom with the one errant wail?

The opener's antagonists were:
1. The baby
2. The weather
3. Glimmer and Sunburst's social awkwardness

Where was the arc? Glimmer and Sunburst didn't really re-introduce themselves. They talked openly about what they did wrong and the reconciled after the appropriate dialogue.

They solved the weather by having Sunburst walk in and explain what they had to do. They tried researching the answer, but the answer would have been in a book if the baby hadn't been bent on murdering everyone.

So that just leaves us with the baby, who is still at large and clearly needs to go in a cage forcefield.

Aside from the plot not being that interesting, the writing had a lot of problems. They did a lot of things you really don't want to do when writing. There's character driven plots and action driven plots, but this was neither. We saw neither character nor action. Just exposition, a problem which they exposited on so you'd know if was severe (why not have the blizzard trap Glimmer with Sunburst so they have to stay together and talk?), and a solution provided via exposition.

It was really, really bad. This episode was terrible. Even for kids it's not a good episode because there's too much chewing the fat.

>>26897618
The powerups functioned far more differently than anything we had seen yet.

So I have to ask /mlp/ a semi-related question about all of this drama:

Whatever happened to/became of Ted Anderson? I don't follow the comics much and haven't been keeping a super-close ear to a part of the fandom that might have any information on him, if there's even any to be had.

Anybody know anything? He had to be more hated than Haber...I think.

>>26897811
Still around. Genuinely doesn't care if people care about his stories or not. Reflects in his writing.

>>26897753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQFmaNlq2lk

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>>26897797
By catching people up to date with relatively well thought out exposition and the introduction of a new semi regular cast member, along with a bunch of old semi regulars showing up. Plus it was a slice of life episode, which is what the show is about. And it was funny, relied on a well constructed plot arch instead of a deus ex mcguffin.

Also, you underestimate children. The yaren't stupid. Look up Lt.Corbin on YouTube if you don't believe me.

>>26897692
It's not even Haber's fault that Alicorns make no sense anymore. Hasbro is the one who made Cadence an alicorn, Twilicorn, and now the baby. He's just writing the episode with the things they want in it and trying his best to make sense of it.

>>26897713
>Power Ponies
Fuck anon, that's the last thing we need after two two-partners that didnt require a magical mcguffin, and you know that's the only time they'd be used, I mean that's what those things are there for. And for some reason you say Haber sucks, but then turn around and don't expect a new magical MLP mcguffin/sudden power up to be utilized in exactly the same way. As far as it goes, their story impact would be identical to Element and Rainbow Power. Actually maybe less than the elements, they at least got dragged out just in case Discord needed to be locked in stone again.

>>26897725
I tend to be whatever on what it's called, aside from Equestria (if only to prevent confusion). Plus I don't read the comics all that much.

>>26897797
>Where was the arc? Glimmer and Sunburst didn't really re-introduce themselves. They talked openly about what they did wrong and the reconciled after the appropriate dialogue.

At the start glim and sun are awkward and distant, with sun potentially not even remembering her at all
after a few failed attempts tensions rise due to external circumstances and they open up to each other, revealling how flawed they both are and how they still need each other
By the end they're friends who want to stay in touch

Textbook story arc. Classic character story. You're wrong.

They would not have been able to fix the heart without glim and sun reconciling. The plots wove together.
>the baby, who is still at large and clearly needs to go in a cage forcefield.
Sunburst gave them a spell to prevent the huge outbursts
DYEWTS

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>>26897910

>>26897910
This. Faust wanted Cadence to be a regular old unicorn, but the jews at Hasjew had to shake us down for shekels. I don't mind Twilicorn though

>>26894878
>Continuity is collapsing[;] who is responsible for this?

Faust, for leaving. She was the only one who cared about lore.

The current show staff shat all over her lore with AliCadence and Twilicorn, and now they're shitting on their new "earned princesshood" lore.

>>26897713

Power poinies was a shit episode whose premise was only excusable because it was a one-off thing contained in a magical book. That shit does not belong in the real pony world.

>>26897946
They would have had a more specific utility than the elements.
This thing was saying fuck it to one macguffin and gave us a warehouse full of them, the sheer dedication to it made me think of it differently than the others. They wouldn't have given that much effort for a macguffin and just had it be a laser blast or be discarded forever.

>>26897976
>Faust caring about lore
>The woman who infamously said they don't hammer logic too hard on the show.

>>26897982
You hate the magical battles?

>>26897776
>>26897910
I'm not talking about the fact, it's about the reaction. He could have just admitted the fuck up and be done with it. I would understand that. What he does now is not doing him any good, just a huge waste of time.

>>26897982
No way dude that episode was awesome.

>>26898006
You are acting like admitting a fuck up is that easy.

>>26897990
Dude, that shit was going to be fire and forget and anybody with a brain knew it. It's pretty much the only times shit like that will be utilized due to it still being, at heart a slice of life with a moral lesson show and not Dragonking Z.

>>26898006
So how did he fuck up again? Remember Equestria does not equal the world where FiM takes place.

>>26897976
>She was the only one who cared about lore
in her own words, she said she didnt even think about celestias background.

Haber is the 2nd master ruseman to Larson, this has been known a long time. Where were you fags back when we loved him?

>>26898046
Shouting out hasdrone since neo/mlp/ wasn't their buzzword of choice yet.

>>26898046
>implying half this board has been here over a year

>>26898032
I am still upset because it would have been a fun premiere nonetheless.

Honestly I really hate it when people do that stupid "Hey look how funny I am giving ironic shitty answers to fan questions instead of actually informing or reassuring them! Aren't I a funny guy?" bullshit.

Seriously, it's not fucking funny, to anyone. Fuck it's not even original, it's been done to death. Just answer the fucking questions to the best of your ability and take this shit at least semi-seriously.

Haber is one of the worst cases for this, you will never get a straight answer or even a serious response from the guy. He will always dodge the question and respond with some retarded "Ironic", "joke" about how he is a bad writer/hates writing/doesn't care about what he's writing. Worst part being he actually thinks he's being funny with his stupid bullcrap non-answers.

Again why did you people say Derpibooru was gonna ban this?
They didn't even realize the tweet was fake yet.

>>26898092
>tells people theyd rather form their own canons rather than listen to his
>people proceed to prove his point in all of these threads
gee, i wonder why he doesnt give a fuck about answering questions.

>>26897998

>modern industrial city setting
>non-magic based superpowers

It was the antithesis of what makes MLP good

>>26898089
>fun premier
>yet more it was okay but with fight filler stuff, and magical mcguffin fuck you audience shit.

I really don't want to go back to that shit. Even if I thought this premier had its weak point (the McFlurry plot was on the weak side), I'd rather have a hundred of these, over that.

>>26898117
Yeah but the Hero Items were/are not that.

>>26898153
>Fuck you audience shit
Are you projecting?

>>26898089

>there are people who will dislike an episode solely because it wasn't what they had in their head

>>26898129
cuz children follow writers twitters.

>>26898180
What I call the 5 minutes to the end use the mcguffin to win the day thing. Even back when I was about the age the target audience is, I thought that shit was pretty cliche. Always felt it was a fuck you buy our shit ploy, and that's even when it didn't have a toy based in it.

it's nice to see that you guys are about to creat the next larson
go get butthurt over this faggot and boost his popularity and let his name be known

he's playing you faggots like no other, pathetic

>>26898235
And god bless him

>>26897947
A textbook story arc is not
1. Thing happens
2. Thing happens
3. Thing happens

It's
1. Problem arises
2. Obstacles to solution
3. Rising tension
4. Climax
5. Resolution

We had several problems. The baby, the crystal ritual, Glimmer's thing, and the weather. The obstacles to solving those problems were kind of fuzzy. Just "can't move clouds, Dash. Those are north clouds. Can't move 'em! Can move the sun but not these clouds!" They never fully acknowledged the baby as a problem, even.

Then the climax was... what?

The resolution was that they fixed the McGuffin and the McGuffin made all the problems go away. Except the baby. The baby will kill again.

There wasn't really an arc. It wasn't really interwoven. Any character at all could have had the information Sunburst had because he pulled it out his ass - and that's important. With an arc you wouldn't just ask Sunburst what to do and he tells you. Sunburst would have some kind of struggle so that there's a story. And him admitting his fault to Glimmer wasn't that struggle - that was for the B plot where two ponies stand around awkwardly eating up time.

>>26897872
A seven year old is going to enjoy an hour of information-driven expository talking because "they aren't stupid?"

>>26898016
>>26898032
Companies do that all the time. "We recognize the problem and will try doing better next time." Even if they aren't going to do anything. No string promises made yet everyone is happy. The argument cut short. What Haber is doing is AT LEAST unprofessional.

>>26898506
Hell, he could have simply ignored all the questions. It would save his time AND face.

Guys, they said that the birth of an alicorn is something "Equestria" has never seen before. Equestria could very well be just the name of a single continent on the planet they inhabit and Celestia and Luna came to Equestria from elsewhere, much like how the elves in Tolkien's Legendarium didn't originate in Middle-Earth but rather emigrated there from a land known as Aman aka "The Undying Lands". There is probably a whole continent or at the very least a large island or chain of islands that is inhabited entirely by alicorns.

>>26898558
It seems it's just a rather large county really, even back in S1, it was implied heavily to not be the planet, what with Zecora coming from a land far away from Equestria and all, or is this shit like the whole "dragon code" debacle/fracas where faggots deliberately ignore shit that says fanon/their headcanon is wrong.

>>26898506
Will agree slightly there. Then again so was just about everybody tweeting to us that we were okay with, even if we hated her.

And if this is about the switch to what we got instead of hurr new mcguffins. Thank fucking GOD they're starting to realize spoiling shit does fuckall for promotion.

>>26898376

Climax was evacuating the city as it was getting engulfed by snow
the only way they fixed the mcguffin was by resolving the conflict in the B-plot, which happened over the course of 2 episodes and not instantaneously.

Do you understand how character drama works as opposed to action drama? Because it doesn't look like you do. You can trivialise everything as 'thing happens' but that ignores the relevance it has to the narrative structure.

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It isn't confirmed that Celestia and Luna weren't born as alicorns, the sisters just said that they've never heard of a naturally-born alicorn before, maybe they don't remember their own birth and weren't told about being born alicorns during their upbringing or something. Maybe its a taboo thing to talk about, or something that you need to be older about to learn, like telling your kids "where babies come from." The sisters just never had "the talk." Autistic headcanons aside, you all need to calm the fuck down.

>>26897824
And people ITT are thinking that they can get Josh canned? >_>

Looks as though history is not on their side.

>>26895776
What was meaningfull between Spike and Stalright or explored their traits in any way? Do you also count Pinkie interacting with Flurry as development>

>>26899482

Glimglam can open up to spike in a way she's not readily able to with twilight

>>26896295
100% of his tweets are just jokes. It became tiresome after a hwile. Even Larson made serious explanation about Slice of Life or Twilicorn when someone had serious problem with it. Haber just use "humor" to deflect any criticism. He is incompetent.

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>>26894604
>Soak it in
>

>I could. But so can you and you'll probably like yours better.
I would but It is beyond even our understanding.

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>>26896739
This is a panel wit McCarthy, Amy Rogers, Larson, Levinger and Haber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isp6saS-tvk


You can clealry see a difference between 3 on the left and 2 on the right. Levinger and Haber are completely without passion or interest and just trying to get this over while Larson, Amy and McCarthy actually know their shit.

So please stop damage controlling out of your ass.

>>26899546

There's no damage controlled involved. It's possible to write a good story without knowing the source material in and out, as long as you are writing something new that doesn't rely on the past.

>>26898046
No, Larson and OCnfalone are rusemen. Haber just don't give a fuck. For him Equestria Girls and FiM is the same shit and that the show is JUST for kids ONLY.

>>26899491
I'm pretty sure Spike just played the role of having Starlight exopse her issues to the audience. The interaction wasn't about them. Everything they said was about her and Sunburst. Spike could have been replaced with any of Mane6 and it would be the same episode.

>>26894604
Holy fuck this guy is a douche
What is he doing as a writer?

>>26899491
Haber would have been clever is he made a connection of Spike being unappreaciated with Glimmer feeling left out. But he didn't and their interactions was just an exposition and filler. Same was with Shy and Twilight in McColts episode. Nothing about them, just two random M6 dealing with current problem instead trying to understand eachother.

>>26899572
Hasbro exec, Mike Vogel is a bigger fan of the show than Haber. He should be the story editor.

>>26894604
>The fandom is going to get this man fired over this.

>>26899592

If you want to be cynical and analyse the narrative on a higher level, you should do it for every episode.
character interactions almost always have a narrative purpose as well as whatever implications they provide about relationships. Just because it has one doesn't discount the other, it just means it's not the focus. These things aren't binary.

>>26899612

>it's a 'the fandom severely overestimates how much power it has' episode

>>26899635
No, Pinkie and Aj bonded in Hearthwarming Eve. Same with Big Mac and Applebloom in Brotherhooves Social or Discord with Twilight and Fluttershy in Twilight Kingdom. Those interactions have meaning and cary on to other seasons. Fluttershy with Aj in Bats or Twilight in McColts had no substance just like Spike with Starlight. He was just being a nice guy but there was no emotional attachment or connection between two very specific characters.

>>26899656
You're describing character development and confusing it with displaying character at all.
You don't need to develop character relationships in order to show them, and in many cases it's not practical to develop the relationships when it's not the focus of the episode (eg twi and flut in mccolts or glim and spike in crystalling). Just because their relationship dynamic isn't being presented in a way that changes, doesn't mean it isn't showing their relationship dynamic.

>>26899643
Derpygate happened.

>>26899681

nobody was fired over it. That's an entirely different league.

>>26899670
I feel different about it but i respect your opinon.

>>26898231
How can we really trust the fandom to know what it wants in an episode...when it doesn't know what it wants in an episode?

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>>26898376
> A seven year old is going to enjoy an hour of information-driven expository talking because "they aren't stupid?"
Yup. But not as much as they are gonna enjoy that sweet hyperbole bruh :)
>An hour
fuck off you nog. The episode was superb.

>>26896956
People just love complaining. I mean, seriously, look at all the people saying McCarthy was better and they wish she'd be back.

Then go to an archive and check what they were saying about a year ago.

No matter what happens, people will always find a reason to complain about it.

I do think they should have taken the established canon into account though, that was very clearly an oversight. I mean, the statement was ambiguous so it doesn't really disprove the book, but they don't really use intentional ambiguity in this show so that was hardly intentional and more luck.

>>26898869
That and McFlurry is an alicorn born of what was once a pegasus and a unicorn (or given that Cadence being a once pegasus is a book thing just an alicorn and unicorn) and they could be, shit, we have no idea what this kid can do. Two alicorns having an alicorn, that's as predictable to the sisters as two humans producing a human kid, while McFlurry would be the equivalent of a human kid coming from a human/uplifted binobo and an orangutang.

>>26896042

>Spoiler

How was the other design for Sunburst?

The final one is ok, but those white spots make him look a bit OC-ish.

>>26900859
They don't usually, of course the one who usually uses it (sometimes in tandem with exact words) is Sunbutt.

>>26894604
Did that retard even read the book? The book contradicts the show like it's nobody's business. It contradicted so many episodes when it came out it's not even funny.
>Zebras aren't from a far away land Twilight, they all live in the middle of the Everfree forest where they were almost hunted to extiction by the wildlife
>Equestria isn't a new land that the three pony races discovered, it was a land the pegasuses already knew about and was covered by a treaty with the griffons
>Luna and Celestia are from a race of alicorns from Canterlot. Not the Catnerlot in the show, another Canterlot
The book was utter shit despite being written by AKR.

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>>26898376
>can't move clouds, Dash
she froze when she tried.

>Can move the sun but not these clouds
the relic holding off those clouds was akin to the elements of harmony. we know already that no one is stronger than the elements of harmony, not even all the alicorns combined.

>The baby will kill again
the baby was stabilized, if you paid attention.

>It wasn't really interwoven
the plots separated and then combined, but worked alongside each other all the way. thats interwoven, even if you dont like it.

>Any character at all could have had the information Sunburst had because he pulled it out his ass
he was extremely well read, which was his entire character. he also lived in the crystal empire, so if anyone knew about the magic of that area, it was going to be him. even twilight had to find a book on their history when she showed up before to look for the crystal heart.

>a child is going to enjoy a story?
yes.

>>26898869
This.

The "Lore" or whatever they call it is still intact.

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>>26900941
He still looked to be the same old hermit only less of a neckbeard and more of a scientist.

>>26900859
What? I always loved McCarthy.

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>>26901046
fucking hang yourself slashy.

>>26895518
Hello haber
How's that cock taste you titanic dickwad?

>>26900859
People also love stirring up shit by comparing her to Faust.


This creator worshipping is so goddamn stupid.

Again, we are fighting in this thread about how to make the premiere good. Clearly we cannot all be pleased.

>>26899546
Rather than taking down the writers that DON'T care, why don't we start putting the writers that do care on a pedestal?

If we make Nick Confalone into our savior, maybe Hasbro will promote him to story editor next season.

Soulsfans are better than bronies?

>>26895518

I like kitchen nightmares

Any new tweet?

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>>26897041
looks like the fucking bronies on derpibooru ate that shit up and agreed with him
what a fucking shitty fandom we're in

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>>26903265
I honestly see nothing wrong with this.

https://derpiboo.ru/1118754#comment_4865960

>>26903341
>people similar to Josh Haber
>Natasha Levinger
That's pretty accurate. She also didn't give a fuck back then and didn't even care to return for S6.

The movie is going to suck, isn't...

>>26903341
We have been exposed, which one of you faggots did it?

>>26903365
We can only wait and see, at least it isn't with sony anymore

Are we a circlejerk of unpleasable nerds /mlp/?

https://derpiboo.ru/1118754#comment_4866868

>>26897976
>implying we weren't already on this tangent and she saw the writing on the walls

She would have done nothing but become a cog in the machine and you know it.

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problem solved.

>>26903500
I wish we would forget that this episode never existed like SAYS.

I like Haber. Doesn't try to suck Brony dick.

I enjoyed the subplot of Starlight and Sunburst but that's because the main story was just a retread of The Crystal Empire (and that episode was meh, though this was better).

>>26903582
But Starlight/Sunburst was the main plot and the rest was subplots.

>>26903414
we do indeed have a faggot lurking ITT it would seem

Why does anybody defend the awful quality of the opener's writing if the guy who wrote it doesn't even give a shit enough to do so?

>>26899572
>It's possible to write a good story without knowing the source material in and out, as long as you are writing something new that doesn't rely on the past.
Except it's not. Over and over again in various media like games, stories, and shit like this in particular, where they decide to take a new direction and it fucks everything over because it is stupid and violates the previously established details.

>>26903414
Why are you faking tweet, autist? Mad that your animatic was shit and no one care about it?

>>26899572
>Wat is Sonic Boom

>>26903827
that's a painfully obvious brony if I've ever seen one

>>26903827
>and no one care about it?
People obviously care enough to reply to post involving it

We'll never recapture the magic the show once held for us. It's never coming back.

>>26903827
Clearly you haven't been looking at the thread.

>>26904235
Show is still pretty great to me.

>>26904235
Not if the mods are deleting everything
>>>/trash/2082951
>>>/trash/2082951
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>>26903582
The McFlurry plot was weak as hell, at least Sombrero was crazy prepared for almost every contingency and literally was inches away from winning, if not for Shining Armor's pro wife throwing skills.

Okay /mlp/, the two key questions are:
1. Does it say in the Journal that Cel and Luna were born alicorns?

2. How is there a contradiction in the show?

>>26901055
Meghan McCarthy still sucks and she musts be fired!

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>>26897993
logic =/= lore m8
flowers that grow in the forest that prank you don't make any sense logically, but it's fine - it's just a plot device. The way magic works isn't logical (it's fucking magic), but that's fine.

Completely changing the background story on shit that has previously been established because you don't give enough of a fuck about a show to watch it before writing for it is not fine.

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Shotas fired, baby.

>>26894604
You can hate his attitude all you want, but you can't hate the honesty with this guy. And frankly I love seeing those people bitch on Twitter.

>>26898376
This faggot here is right (the one below). You've got realistic character interaction with down to earth characters in your hoers show like you want, now be happy. It wasn't perfect, but it was at least pretty good. There are flaws, but this wasn't one of them you sperg.
>>26898776


>>26898869
Is it not implied in the Journal of the Two Sisters though? I mean, Celly and Lu's task to EARN their alicorn wings (or horns if they were pegasi?) is never shown, so I see where they're coming from, it looks like that.

But was it actually confirmed? Id so, it would be in the Journal. Have you read it?

And also,

>>26899578
>rusemen
Is it possible that Josh's original tweet was a joke, because he knew Frederika was desparate for some reasssurance in OP pic,and was just saying 'no' to fuck with him?

Yes. Of course he was.

>Sorry. I can't actually read.
He probably does have an explanation and is just fucking with you all.

But someone is clearly plaing along anyway. Let's see where it goes.

>>26907200

>>26907219
Honesty is fine until you put someone on a PR role and suddenly it's the worst decision the guy can make. Being honest like this is a horrible, horrible idea most of the time. Nothing to gain from it, all to lose.