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FOE: A Post-Nuclear Pony Thread

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Renewal edition

Old thread: >>25631472

The original, read it first:
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/119190/

EqD Side Story Compilation Post - March:
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2015/03/fallout-equestria-side-stor-updates.html

Tales from the Wasteland:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jjr70KyM4O4tilvWOPMbgT0c9hPnFK12xUQW6wGrCm8

PnP Document:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApDd-Pi_fJGZdGZiN0U0ajdtR3dTZ0FVQUh4cnhqenc

Smut Collection:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LBe5FGXd2Fgj0CRbz8HDZ6fDC11aRB9O-KfYxCODjGM

/foe/ Chatrooms:
#FOEchat (and #foefetish for you horsefuckers) on irc.canternet.org:6667
http://falloutequestria.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Chat

Recent updates:

Frozen Skies - Nov 7
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/201326/

Wasteland Bouquet - Nov 11
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35229/

Dance of the Orthrus - Nov 13
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/263354/

The Chrysalis - Nov 27
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/288365/

Rising Dawn - Nov 27
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/159701/

Make Love Not War - Nov 27
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/301900/

Tales of a Pony Peddler - Nov 30
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-jJrx2pCApBcGJrcVlwTWQ0XzA/view

Black and White - Nov 29
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/44457/

Current /foe/ book club story: Black and White
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/44457/fallout-equestria-black-and-white

ITT: A whole batch of different fics this time.
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Holy Jesus. What is this?! WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!
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>>25678517
Jelly doughut, sir!
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>>25678517
ITT: newfags
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>>25678517
Hot ponies, bitching songs, and all the gunplay you can put in between /k/s knotted horse cock and dragon dildo collection.
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>>25678838
NEURO PLS
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>>25678838
>dat tail
>Dat mane
Damn chinese commies why do they have to skimp on the actual value?!
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>https://derpibooru.org/1038360
A friendly reminder for everyone that forgot about the edgy OC with the robo leg and corset piercings everywhere.
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>>25678903
Once the geck is out Ill be able to make them much better.
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>>25678415
>PnP Document:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApDd-Pi_fJGZdGZiN0U0ajdtR3dTZ0FVQUh4cnhqenc

not up to date anymore
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16g-C8H16uGqWyehKAvBmsfyU4MJHFTMcD75n6NoUJFI/edit?pli=1#gid=1599847577&vpid=A3

on that note I'd like to share that since the past week i have been working on my own fallout equestria system, taking in most of the properties of Fallout 4, with it's crafting system and settlement management (including warfare)
but most importantly the combatsystem gets an overhaul as I think FoE pnp revised is silly in most regards.

Most of the system is in my head and only needs typing out, the harder and more exhausting parts are to port items or make them myself

revised has been going on my nerves for a while now and Icekatze's version is even a little bit worse

so, am I completely on the wrong track with trying to do something new which people aren't gonna use anyway, or is there a spectrum on others even wanting to help out a little?
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>>25677044
Yeah, Stable 2 was in an apple cellar on Sweet Apple Acres (SAA). I guess I can't remember if it's specifically stated it's literally under the barn, but that's where my mind imagery goes. Suppose I'll have to double check on that. As far as the location of SAA, Google "Granny Smith Map" and there's a map that shows it *possibly* being northwest of Ponyville proper. Orientation is wonky and that's my guess.

Thusly, Stable 2 and SAA are just the same dot on the map, at least for now. I can't decide if I want to put down areas like Manehattan with a square around it designating that that's the area and then have all the buildings have their own icon, or if it's wiser to just set an icon for the city standalone.

And thank you! Means a lot to hear that it's looking at least passable!
>MFW compliments


For when the old thread dies: it was asked if Stable 2 was at Sweet Apple Acres. The answer: Read the above.
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>Last thread

All I did was make a sexy stocking Snap Roll after some encouragement from mirthful! Riddles

Some of you guys act like all I do is write rapefics and draw imminent death pics.
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>>25679768
all mozart did was write songs
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>>25679814
Songs are sung, I'm not sure Mozart ever wrote lyrics.
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>>25679814
Reminds me of this.
https://youtu.be/kVzaBq4ycWg?t=52
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>>25679861
good on you understanding an obscure reference
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>>25678415
Every fanfic is canon in its timeline
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>>25679814
Is this supposed to be a compliment, or a request that I write a deaf Steel Ranger rapefic?
I'm not sure, so I started the rapefic this morning thanks to my foresight.
You're welcome.
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>>25680035
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>>25680101
>deaf Steel Ranger rapefic

pls no. Write deaf Steel Ranger consensual sex for the purpose of bonding and furthering the relationship.
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>>25680101
>I wasn't
>But you were
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>>25680101
what I meant to say is that it's not just a rapefic and the drawing of imminent death to us to us, it's so much more than that.
For some it's the reason to stay up late to wait for a new update, or the other way around, to wake up earlier to see what happened before they have to go to work.
You are an creator on the internet, and if you only make a single person happy with your content, hasn't the work paid of? You are the reason the world is a better place now, no matter how small this contribution may be. You made someone's day/hour/minute/second, depending on how long you were able to draw a smile on their face.
Keep up your work, god bless you, you glorious faggot
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>>25680123
Including Past Sins
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>>25680230
>>25680127
Compliment it was then.

I'm still writing the fic, it will just be in the IRC as is proper when done.

>>25680126
But what fun is there in having them in a nontrying element? What truth is there in their actions without adversity?
It is the trials and tribulations we face that show who we are, not the comforting embrace of a loving figure. Only then can one find their true self, to know who they really are.
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>>25680299
>adversity
>trials and tribulations
>true self
I don't know about your fetishes, but I don't want any of this shit in something I'm supposed to masturbate to.
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>>25676184
>>25677645
>>25678332
>>25678553 If you were at full strength, maybe, but even then it would make noise when it leaves the field of effect.
The canteen and dried food grabs your interested immediately and a quick taste taste of the water shows it to be free of rads.

Water never tasted this good.

There was less than a quarter left when you stopped to eat. You leaned back and looked around, finding no one sneaking up on you. The meat was chewy and taking another sip of water helped it to go down. You finished the water and saved half the meat before moving onto the shotgun.
The spell wasn't taxing you as much in it's smaller state but it was time to save energy once you determined the magazine was full, eight shots in total. You always preferred your pistol over any other gun, even that laser rifle you used to have; but if you wanted to hold any of these ponies at gunpoint, a shotgun might look scarier.

'If they heard Hammer go off, they'd think it'd be scary,' you thought to yourself.

You cancelled the spell after making sure the shotgun was ready, and crept forward to where the stal- the first target, had come from.

Peeking around the edge of the rocks, you confirmed the positions of the other slavers. Lookout was about six pony-lengths from you, to the right and covering the tip of the camp looking out. The older mare turned out to be the one tending the now growing campfire: her back was to you and it wouldn't be hard to sneak up on her. The other asshole who had harassed a mare was leaning against the rocky outcropping on the far side, there would be no sneaking around the other side to catch him off guard, unless he was looking back to the camp. The last slaver (judging by his clothes) was still lying down, like before, but you noticed something off about him. A black eye, a fat lip, and a bomb collar around his neck while he slept.

Looks like they had a turncoat.

Cont.
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>>25680508
You stopped and thought to yourself; you had a bit of food, you had already drunk some water, you had another gun and some ammo. Why not just leave?

You didn't have to attack these slavers any longer. You didn't need to get involved with what they were doing and you didn't know who their boss was. There must have been another four ponies who were chained together and to a spike that had been pounded into the dirt. They weren't your problem and you tried to tell yourself to just move on; you could escape.

What do?
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>>25680522
Leave.
No reason to play hero and risk getting captured.
We got what we wanted and can move on without issue.
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>>25679727
Double checked. They tore down the barn for the Stable 2. It is indeed directly under the barn in Sweet Apple Acres.
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I swear im going to try and finish this animation and start learning how to animate properly
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>>25680851
She's an evil enchantress and she does evil dances...
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>>25679017
If it is made to upgrade the PnP system, I am in

Doubt people on the thread would care, you should discuss it better on the steam group
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>>25680904
Actually starting to realise how unrealistic I can make the legs ook but still make it look nice
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>>25680851
HORSE

POWER
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>>25681074
omg that's adorable
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>>25681076
tfw will never animate as good as zone
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>>25680562
And yet half a canteen of water won't last for long.
We could do a better job of hiding the body, somewhere they can't find it.

With a turncoat in their ranks another missing pony would put them on edge. Maybe enough to weaken the rest of them through suspicion and infighting, while we watch from a safe distance ready to take everything else when the time is right.

If things don't pan out we still have the option of moving on.
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>>25681181
I'm not sure how punishing the one who fucked with the merchandise means they have a turncoat?
I mean if its meant to say the guy wanted to release the slaves or something I could get, but as said it indicates he just got punished.
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>>25681043
looking it up later
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Would armorer's still proof their work?
Do you think they'd use a mannequin for it, or would they use a live pony as a show of their power?
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>>25681450
Ask Ham what Alloy does, anon.
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>>25681470
Headshot them while asking them over to test a gorget, but invite them to dinner first?
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>>25681492
Jesus christ man...
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>>25680522
Lets not delude ourself into thinking this is some selfless good deed here. A nearly empty canteen and half a meal aren't good for much, especially in our condition. If they were raiders we'd kill them all for the supplies. This is no different, we just happen to be doing something nice at the same time.
Now I'd say if we could lure another one away then our odds would be very good.
If that doesn't seem doable then I'd shoot the leader in the back first. She's likely the most dangerous, and the one who can detonate the slaves.
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>>25681613
downward motion of the front hoof seems too instant, like it's stomping, not dancing
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>>25681613
p l s
l
s
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>>25681667
angry dancing!
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>>25681470
Ham doesn't come to this shithole anymore.
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>>25681804
He still pops in occasionally.
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>>25681470
Don't bother Ham.
He's busy writing.
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>>25681973
I can't bother Ham even if I wanted to (and I do want to, always all the time but he's a busy ham), he's not even on Steam.
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M'kay folks. Map making question again. I'm up to 29 in FoE and looking to place Splendid Valley/Maripony, but I'm having issues thinking of where it is.

>Included, most recent map as of last time to see where I've placed things so far.

So, in FoE, Splendid valley (at least up to chapter 29) is mentioned in reference to a couple things. First and foremost is Calamity's Shack:

"It was another stroke of luck that Calamity’s Shack was only a little bit out of our way towards Fetlock and Manehattan. It was, however, completely in the opposite direction of Splendid Valley"

It later says Calamity's Shack is "slightly closer to New Appleloosa than it is to the closest border of the Everfree Forest."

Now, that leaves what it means for "opposite direction". Does that mean it's the opposite direction from whence they came? (At this point, Stable 2. They were headed to Calamity's Shack before dropping off the AJ rangers at Fetlock and then going to Tenpony.) That's what I'm assuming, so Ponyville is the center of the compass, so to speak. Unless I'm wrong in what that means. It's such a weird sentence since they're not headed to Splendid Valley at that moment anyways...

What I've done is put the shack right between NA and the nearest dark green (forest, specifically Everfree) on the map. That means Splendid Valley is northish of Ponyville? Probably?

The other descriptors so far:
>The valley below was a rocky wasteland completely barren of life. (As they were approaching from Manehattan.)
>A sinkhole several miles across indicated where the balefire bomb had been detonated. It had been detonated underground, the surface had collapsed into the toxin filled tunnels below.
>Over 200 years, the sinkhole had eroded into a crater.
>On the cusp of the crater were the crumbled walls of the Maripony. (No idea why the "the" is there.)

So, where do you guys think I should put it?
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>>25682196
>By most recent map, I mean I'm an idiot and did the show canon map first.
Here's the most recent of my creation. Posted this last thread, no updates since then (as most of the recent chapters have taken place in places that already existed).
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>>25681209
The dead asshole is one guy, the turncoat is another. There are now three armed slavers in the vicinity.

im writing it
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>>25682196
in ur butt lel
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>>25683146
Well golly gee aren't you just the most helpful person ever.
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>>25682210
Something just occurred to me. The rock farm is shown to be southwest of Appleloosa, but isn't that where Silver Bell is holed up and thus halfway between New and Old Appleloosa? Unless I'm mistaken.

Anyway, given that Maripony is horse Mariposa Military Base, my first instinct would be somewhere in the desert. Neighvarro would probably be out that way too.

This map is getting increasingly tough to reconcile with the story.
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>>25683296
Maybe the balefire bombs pushed some geography around? That or one of the other Equestrian superweapons? I mean we know they sank Zebra islands, so its entirely possible for things to go not as planned from that.
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>>25683296
Yup. I think I put it in the last thread, but I'll say it again here. So far (Ch 31 now), the Pie Rock Farm is the only completely non-canon place in FoE. They say it's between Appleloosa and New Appleloosa. But AP has a show-canon location and NA is past the gorge, so they have to be near each other. With S5 saying the Pie Farm is over to the west, can't work. But Kkat didn't know that back in S2, so yeah.

I thought of Splendid Valley being in the desert, or potentially where the canon pie farm is, but since the description is "the opposite way of Calamity's Shack" and his shack is close to NA, it has to be either north or northwest of Ponyville. (Unless I'm understanding the directions wrong.)

Also it doesn't say in FoE that it was a desert, probably just a huge wasteland because of the megaspell that was literally under Maripony.

Taking that into consideration... maybe where Cloudsdale is on the canon map? I do know that there's another map floating around that doesn't follow the canon map that puts Splendid Valley due east of Ponyville, but it doesn't follow canon so /shrug.

(Also of note, Pip can see three SPP towers from Maripony/Old Olneigh, so that may help with triangulation once I figure out where they were built. So far one in Filly. She says "I'm fairly certain one of them was the one I spotted in the outskirts of Cloudsdayle", which I put down by Appleloosa, so whatever that one is has to maintain Line of Sight. Fun times!)

I haven't gotten to Neighvarro yet. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

>>25683431
Sank the Zebra Islands? I don't remember that at all. Where did that happen? It's very possible I just straight read over that since it wasn't related to a location I was trying to figure out.

>I have literally 12 pages of text in a .txt for remembering why I placed things where. This is getting to be more work than I thought.
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>>25683296
>This map is getting increasingly tough to reconcile with the story.
Mapfags are the worst kinds of autists.
The story was written long before any kind of map existed, stop trying to force square pegs into round holes.
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>>25683567
Every good author has their own spatial cognizance, so there IS a map Kkat used (albeit in her head possibly). There was a map all the way back in S1, but it's been updated and people are using newer locations for their stories now.

I wanted to reconcile it in a visual medium. So now there's a map.

Square pegs and square holes, just trying to find where all the holes are so I can connect the two.

(Though since there was an update to the show-canon map, and it is a fanfiction, obviously there's going to be some places where either the source material changed from underneath the author or a simple mistake was made.)
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>>25683243
>Well golly gee aren't you just the most helpful person ever.
I always pictured it near/in Rambling Rock Ridge. The "canon" map shows that Maripony is near Ponyville and the Everfree, and RRR is the only landmark on the map that makes any sense.

srsly tho in ur butt lel
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>>25683722
Also, Rambling Rock Ridge implies theres a rocky ridge there. What forms at the bottom of ridges? Valleys. /checkmate
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>>25679831
Actually, he wrote several operas
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>>25683722
>>25683752
Well, now I eat my words! You are actually being helpful! Thanks!

Yeah, I saw the one map that had it over there east of Ponyville. It made sense, the only problem is the whole "opposite side of Ponyville from calamity's shack". Unless I'm just blatantly dumb and misplacing the shack, it can't be over there.

Show-canon map also has some mountains west/northwest from Ponyville, the ones just southeast of the Unicorn Range (or maybe even in the range themselves). Could be those then?

Good point though, "Valley" usually implies mountains or something. Might /have/ to be in some kind of elevation somewhere (mountain, ridge, plateau, etc). I guess the thought was, "It's a valley NOW, because explosions." But now that I think about it, it actually was a valley beforehand.
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>>25683506
Is it possible to just headcanon/bs our way out with the Rock Farm by saying the canon location holds the real farm and the one in the fic holds one that was made during war-time? Or are the evidence for the pie family having lived there too much?
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>>25683801
Yes! Like Fidelio by Ludwig van Mozart.
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>>25683952
Unfortunately no. I thought of that too, but there's an issue. And I quote:
>“... and they danced and danced all day and all night! And best of all this is the very silo where Pinkie Pie, as a young filly, invented the first party ever and got her Cutie Mark!”

So, in FoE it's the rock farm where Pinkie grew up and got her cutie mark in. Not really a way around that. Cut and dry. Kkat had literally no way of knowing where it was, so it's not really a fault with the spatial reasoning of the story, just the source material changed from under it.

....now that I think about it though, show canon is weird with that. They all saw the sonic rainboom to get their cutie marks, right? The rock farm has mountains north of it, and cloudsdale is north of it. You have to assume Cloudsdale wasn't where it is on the canon map (since it IS canon that it can move) when the rainboom happened. (That's actually the explanation I have for why "Cloudsdale Wreckage" is down south instead of where the show-canon map shows it).

>Why do I know all this?
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so I found this.
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>>25684893
right here.
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>>25684893
>>25684906
there's also a PA system of this guy talking to his "Little Murkies"
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>>25684893
>>25684906
Oh I remember that place. That dude was a freaking crazy cat lady. Only with large mutant crustaceans.
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Rap Pip
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>>25685566
Love it.
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>>25685566
Illest rhymes in the wasteland.
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>>25685566
>>25685673
Please nobody start.
You all have terrible rhymes and flow.
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>>25685566
Pip seems to have stolen an element of harmony, Or is it just a Pimp-buck?
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>>25685848
pimp-buck 3 billion
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>>25685848
Don chu be askin' where she got her krunk.
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>>25683867
>Well, now I eat my words! You are actually being helpful! Thanks!
I have my moments.
If you take it loosely and assume Calamity's shack is around New Appleloosa area, and have Ponyville as a reference point, RRR COULD be taken as opposite side from Calamity's shack if you imagine the system as a triangle. Again, it requires interpreting shit from the author cause as much as we big he/she/it up, Kkat was frustratingly inconsistent with these things.
>"It's a valley NOW, because explosions."
Hence why its referred to sometimes as Splendid Crater. Was a valley, now a great big fuck off hole.
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>>25685566
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>>25686278
I need context.
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Why do the russians like this story so much? Has anyone here read it? Is it actually good, or is it only likable if you're a slav?
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>>25688008
>Doesn't give story title
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>>25688039
People who've read it should recognize the image.

It's called The Fossil. All I know about it is there's snow and there's a plane on the cover art.
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>>25688008
>>25688080
I thought this was getting translated?
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>>25688090
It is!
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>>25688091
Well, assuming the translation's well done we should be able to tell if it's any good ourselves.
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>>25687432
Googled the title, seems to be a story on FimFiction called "Second Chances", which is a sequel to "Raider and Kid", apparently.
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>>25681616
It would be funny how things have turned out if you weren't also disgusted. You used to think killing other ponies was disgusting and horrible. Now it was easy, and commonplace. All you needed was timing and placement, both you had the patience for.

A standoff after blasting the leader away would be foolish as you doubted they would give you the time to talk them down or intimidate them. You also didn't feel like talking. It would be best not to give them an impression of you at all.

If you moved now, you could take out the older mare first, quietly with your knife. At that point though, you have a body right in the middle, several ponies who could be awake, and two hostiles who could turn on you. The dead one's friend was still alive though, and could come looking if you waited.

A plan formed in your mind as you backed away and returned to the corpse. It was a simple task of moving him further away and sitting him against the rock in just such a way that his blood wouldn't be immediately visible. You also went back and carefully disturbed any dirt where his blood had pooled, or spread dirt over any blood on the rock. You knew better than to let immediate giveaways like that to be visible in lighted conditions.

By the time you had finished, you heard a short grunt and the older mare call out, "Hey, piss-brains! What's taking so long, huh? Jerking off?"

There was no answer but you already knew they were talking about their now deceased friend. Maybe friend, she didn't seem to like this one. Regardless you hurried along and removed one cigarette from the crumpled pack, stuck it between your lips and lit it up with the lighter.

You made a rough grunt, trying to mimic the stallions' voice while you puffed on the old cigarette and stuck it between his lips. You kept his mouth shut and focused again to cast a spell. A much easier one this time, just to help you climb up the rock face and hide above the next pony this time.

Cont.
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>>25688477
It wasn't something you hadn't done before, it came to you a few days back when you had to get the black case back. That raider never saw it coming, served him right for taking that from you.

You indulged for a moment, remembering the same technique used in the past you planned to use here.

There you go with the blood lust again. Something was definitely wrong with you.

"I guess that's a yes, heh." The mare quipped. When no answer came she spoke up again, "Hey Lav, go see what's his problem."

The voice of a younger mare, the lookout, spoke up and began coming closer. "Sure thing boss," she said casually.

You crouched lower and tried to melt into the rock you clung to, vertical and facing down. It was a light strain on your horn to maintain both your Sticky Hooves and the telekinesis to keep the cigarette in the stallions' mouth, made easier by remaining so still. Just a matter of waiting now.

Counting the seconds before a target was in place was therapeutic, helping you to stay calm as the mare came moving around the rocks and closer to the body.

"Hmm? What are you doing over there..." she said out loud. She must have seen his legs and muzzle just past the rock.

'Time to move in,' you thought.

Cont.
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>>25688490
You began creeping down the face of the rock, knife in your teeth once more. You didn't want to wait until she saw something was wrong and warned the others.

'Lav,' was that short for Lavender? It would make sense when you looked at her coat color, a soft purple complimented by a green mane tied in a braid. The way her braid hung off to one side gave you a clear shot at the little area at the base of her skull. Damn it all.

When the time was right, you dropped your focus on the cigarette and took hold of the knife. Extending off your hind legs, you hung in the air while your right foreleg wrapped around her muzzle and the left over the back of her neck.

She tried to cry out past your leg as the knife went in, cutting into and cracking her spine when you gave it a hard twist. Her body tensed up briefly and then went limp; you had to let go of the knife to catch her body with your magic. You held your breath to listen for the others while you gently lowered her to the ground. She lay with her legs under her chest and her chin in the dirt when you joined your next victim on the ground.

A crawling feeling went up your own spine as you pull the knife from the base of her skull and wiped it off on her jacket. You had to fight the feeling that what you were doing was wrong.

'When all of them are dead, you can release those slaves,' you told yourself over and over. You weren't sure if you believed yourself.

You had maybe a few seconds before somepony would get suspicious.

What do?
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Nips drew Plum Pudding necrophilia to prove he can

I want to be witty about this but I'm drawing blanks here.

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>>25688840
Damn it Datte, share him with us.
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>>25687432
>>25688146
Nope, it was a comic about a Raider mare and foal without the parental abuse, which up until now was on a year long hiatus.
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>>25688840
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>>25688840
Drawing blanks?
But she's old enough to have her cutie mark![/spolier]
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>>25688945
Oh, you

>>25688854
I would if I could!
He's a very swood dood, but he's also a very busy dood with lots of projects and interests
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Well, I got tired of putting larger dots in the tiny places, so I redid the map and expanded it. Going back and putting more accurate-ish dots down. Decided to do box 'reigons' in blue so you can tell if something is in the other. Only up to Fetlock for now. Will do more tomorrow. Tiredforever.

>File is pretty big now though.
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>>25689463
As long as it's not 4MB I won't even notice.
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>>25688840
God damn, Nips is one edgy mother fucker
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>>25688008
I've read it up to last chapter. It's not even a FoE fic, autors themselves claimed it's not.
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>>25689881
Wait, is it not called Fallout Equestria: The Fossil?
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>>25689898
Now it's just Fossil. When it was first aired it was called Fallout for the sake of popularity. Because there are not that much good russian fics around, so quite a lot of attention are focusing on FoE.
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>>25688501
The same method will definitely work a third time.

Prop their bodies in such a way that whatever raider comes up to check on them will make them puzzled long enough for us to go in for the kill.
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>>25689938
How disingenuous.
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>>25689952
But it's still a postapocalyptic story, just not based on Kkat's canon. Not that bad, if you ask me. Fossil reminds me generic Indiana-like story quests adventure with a little bit of dieselpunk.
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>>25688501
Think we can do it one more time? That's probably the limit of our good fortune.

Or should we move around and take the opportunity for some confusion to get in position to swoop and take the rest from the other side of the camp?
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So would you fill a pony with sparkle cola, then paddle them until they fart butt gravy?
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>>25688501
I think moving away to a spot where we can see both the bodies and the camp would be a good idea.

We could move in to the spot the slavers leave the weakest, either killing a lone pony going to check the spot again or a token force left at the camp.
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>>25688501
Two left. Now's the time to hit them. Take them both with the element of surprise.
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>>25690519
Settle down, fetishanon you little rascal.
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>>25689938
>>25689952
Meh, maybe it started out as a FoE fic and then the author decided to take it in their own direction. It's kinda wonky but it's fanfiction, so it's not like there are any hard rules in place saying they can't. At least they had the decency to make it clear when they moved away from the source material.
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>>25690681
Godspeed you brave fgt
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>>25691029
I think that's why I like changelings.
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>>25691031
That's what you think anon, but he's been doing this for a couple weeks now.
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>>25691051

Wait, so... TH didn't ruin changelings?! Thank goodness.
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>>25691031
Worst romance done in a MLP fanfiction.
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>>25691280
I hate realistic relationships too.
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>>25691287
Don't go there.
Even Glory x Blackjack was better.
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>>25691297
How
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>>25691310
They had some proper interraction and feelings development before becoming fuck buddies.
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>>25691320
I do not remember this.
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>>25691287
It wasn't, though. It was pretty flat and emotionless.

Littlepip was lonely and feeling rejected because Velvet wasn't in lesbians with her, so she asked Homage whether Homage knew if there was anyone who would like a pony like her. This was either the second or third time they'd met; without having any alone time to interact. The only interactions they'd had was in a group and with Homage sending them on quests to get stuff. No love, no flirting, no bonding. It was just 'Hey, know anyone who'd like a pony like me?' 'Yes, me. Not let's fuck.'

The only thing they even had in common was the fact that both had the Small Frame trait.
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>>25691574
The 'not' in there should be 'now' as in 'Now let's fuck.'
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>>25691574
>flat and emotionless.
like real life
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>>25691593
God. Dammit.
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Which would be more terrifying if captured by a gang of raiders?
Blindness or deaf?
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>>25691704
blindness, probably. If you're deaf you can at least spot something before it happens to spot you or see environmental hazards. You can't do that (usually) if you're blind besides maybe hear a crackling fire pit or the noise of a shorted out wire. But you can see these and avoid them easier than hear them and avoid them.
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>>25691574
>shallow and born of necessity
Sounds about right.
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>>25689940
>>25690428
>>25690549 i feel like I need to give clearer options on the 'what do' parts, you guys are thinking ahead before we finish the action :S
First things first. You carefully pick up the mare and sit her next to the stallion, leaning her into his shoulder.
Her eyes were still open just a crack, giving her an unseeing, haunted look on her face despite staring into the stallions' lap.
You decided to close them, something about the faces dead ponies made was hard to look away from. Was it some morbid curiosity in the fallen foe? Subconscious self punishment of burning their visage into your mind? Some kind of satisfaction in your handiwork?
She looked like she was sleeping now, and the longer you stared, the more you realized she couldn't have been much older than you.

She was kinda cute.

'And you snuffed her out so easily,' A voice in your head told you.

You know.

'She didn't even see it coming,' it continued.

...

'Helpless to stop you...' It whispered.

You grit your teeth behind closed lips.

'And you enjoyed it," it laughed.

"Shut up," you whispered.

You heard a body shifting on the other side of the rocks.

"Hey, what the fuck's going on over there?" The older mare called out.

'Time to go,' you told yourself.

Cont.
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>>25691799
You picked up the combat shotgun and kept it close as you snuck around to the other side of the rocks, where the other stallion last was.

EFS indicated the target had not moved yet, but it wouldn't tell you what direction they were facing. You heard the mare call out to 'Lavender' (knowing you guessed her name right did not help) and 'Mustard Seed.' She was louder this time, probably loud enough to wake up the resting slaves if they weren't already,

"Hey, something's not right. Keep your eyes peeled," she told the last stallion,

He couldn't have been more than two pony lengths ahead of you, and possibly distracted.

A brief thought entered your head. Should you cover your identity before moving in?

What do? Suggestions: (weapons) Knife, Pistol, Shotgun, Hooves/(abilities) Magic-Low Strain, SATS, Stealth.
If you have specific questions (like what the effective range of your fire arms are or what kind of magic you can still pull off without endangering yourself) put em in spoilers.
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>>25691704
Is that even a question? Being blind is crippling. Being deaf is something people live with so well that most of the time you can't even tell they are.
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>>25688840
Where does he even post this stuff?
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>>25691850
Wait until they get close to the bodies, then ambush
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>>25691850
Cover identity? How? I don't think we'd quite look close enough to be taken as either one. Maaybe if we pose as one of them resting by the rock and jump them before they got close enough to tell the difference. Maybe.
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>>25692055
Whydomenhavenipples on Derpi, and McSweezy on tumblr or something like that.
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>>25691799
/r/ing someone to draw this cute scene
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Which would be worse for Alloy?
Somebody making her an elaborate choker as a way of showing she is always welcome in a town, or a villain debraiding her hair?

Which would be worse by your opinion?
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>>25692184
Debraiding her hair?!
THAT MONSTER
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>>25692102
You have a hooded cloak and a bandanna/shemagh. So if you think it's appropriate to hide your face so that the slavers AND the slaves can't see your identity, you can. This is in case you wish to charge and attack them like >>25690549 suggested.

Second point, you are at least a dozen pony lengths from the bodies now and watching your EFS shows one of them creeping towards those bodies. They will be discovered before you can reach them.

I also want to apologize for throwing so much information at you guys in such an unorganized fashion. A lot of this is off the cuff.
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>>25692239
We can only shudder to imagine where they go from there - nonconsensual bedtime stories during her imprisonment?
Forced spin-the-bottle?
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So diaper Blackjack is a thing.
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>>25692124
Anon pls Ask Nips or Datte, they might.
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>>25692278
Strugglesnuggles
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>>25692278
How dreadful! At least they wouldn't be forced into a game of Parcheesi.

>>25692272
I'm real skeptical of being able to take them on in a frontal battle. We gotta find someone else to ice. NOW. If they get the alert out first then we lose all luxury of another surprise attack.

Gotta be something we can use that dud mine for. Search for a target, quick. Any target. Even if it's a potshot with our pistol, it'll be our last free shot we can take before all hell breaks loose!
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>>25692325
Not saying to use the mine yet, I'd rather we jump someone then throw a mine at the nearest horse to freak them out and make them dive for cover to keep us from getting our head blown by a snapshot reaction.
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>>25692318
>StruggleSnuggle
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>>25692325
It's two on one and they're separated. We have a shotgun, a pistol, a knife, recently repaired combat armor, very effective stealth skills, and a little bit of magic at our disposal.

You really want to use a mine?a broken mine? it's junk, he dropped it ages ago.
We could swing around the edge of the rock where that stallion is and blast him with the shotgun before he's ready. The other mare will probably come running back straight to us.

Or wait for her to start yelling about them being dead and he could be distracted.
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>>25692808
He should have dropped it*
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>>25692808
we should probably keep one alive if we want to free the slaves
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>>25692288
Hot, I like it.
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>>25693007
There's one in a collar. He's probably be the best for that.
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How should a raider you are supposed to care about in a short fic, a medic here, be set up so that they don't just come across as the one good and wholesome character?

That is, how do i carry he is still a raider medic, but you should feel bad for what happens to him by the main character?


Assume I'm trying to be under 15 pages here.
Sorry Prompt Anon, I try and i try but I can't just do a page for you.
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>>25693689
Motivations. Why a medic? Why not an underwater basket weaver? Motivations make people more empathetic imo.
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>>25693689
Research anti-villains. Make him a character who we care about and who has good reasons for doing what he's doing, but what he's doing is ultimately unacceptable and must be stopped regardless.
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>>25693689
Sad back story.
Doing it under a coercion.
Insanity.
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>>25693775
>a coercion
fug
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>>25693045
Get >>>out you fucking degenerate
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>>25693731
>>25693767
>>25693775
Well as I said, 15 pages and he is not the main character, so that much development is a bit overboard, though useful if reversed.

My thought was too have him heal the main character, show some interactions, and establish that its less "I want to throw a pegasus into a minefield after breaking her wings" raiders, and more "Ghengis Khan is my husbando, and great great great great x 12 grandfather." tier raiders with family bonds and so on amongst each other.
Which the protagonist murders as she is supposed to, all to get back her fancy duds from when she was captured. Her logic, "There will always be more ponies out there, but a fitting aramene wool suit with leather greaves will not be made again."
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>>25693879
Sounds like everyone involved is a cunt.
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>>25693917
That's how I like to write, no good, no evil, just lots of realistic greys.
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Who remember this shit?
Don't remember where it came from
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>>25693957
Here another one I found too cleaning my picture folder.
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>>25693968
seriously

I remember this being saved from FoE
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>>25694031
Isn't this the hand drawn comic?
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>>25694050
Looks kinda like it, but I'm pretty sure the style was different. That guy quit after Pip passed out in Carousel Boutique.
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>>25693853
Make me.
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>>25692325 show some confidence anon
>>25692808
>>25693007
>>25693164
Okay guys, I'm not ready to post but I think I have it.

Do you want me to conclude the confrontation in one go, or break it up so you can make a 'what do' decision in the middle of combat?
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>>25694832
break it up
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Is there anything in the FOE lore that disallows vampires / vamponies?

Not just in Kkat's, but in the combined works canon.
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>>25694961
You mean besides the fact that it's kinda dumb?
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>>25694961 Cont.

And werewolves too for that matter.
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>>25695013
Nah, the idea was for a vampony survivor of the wars story. And how would radiation and mutant critters react to them?
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>>25694961
Don't be a Planefag
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>>25695028
>>25694961
No demons.
No werewolves.
No vampires.
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>>25695107
No vampire Vinyl and werewolf Octavia?
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>>25695107
This but only on the literal level.

Now what could be done is people who have this idea that this is what they do and actually do it but they are not vampires.
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>>25695122
It's been done.
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>>25695152
In FOE?
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>>25695122
Vinyl was in Stable 29 and died there in FoE.

Octavia, in PH, died in her shack in the Hoof with her soul-inspired cello music.
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>>25694832
Yeah, I'd love to see it broken up with some more detail. You're pretty damn good with it so far. N-not that I'm mentally taking notes on it for future writing improvement or anything. B-baka.
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>>25695163
It has been a few years since I've read it. Maybe its time to give it another go?
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>>25695180
FoE or PH?

I'm the map guy that's been bothering everybody for the past couple days, so I've been reading FoE nonstop in order to find locations. I've been reminded of how good it is. You should definitely read it again if you have time to burn.

For PH, I actually liked it for the most part. It's such a divisive story though, people will either like it or hate it (and tell you that you're literally Hitler if you like it). If you've never read through it fully - it's completed now - then you should. It's quite a ride, and if nothing else it'll give you something to talk about.
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>>25695253
I haven't gotten to PH yet. But what chapter is stable 29 in?
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>>25695174
>Pretty damn good so far
Y-you really mean that Senpai?

Because if I'm honest, my structure is awful. I just write what makes sense and try not to mix up the tenses too much. (I'm doin a poor job though)
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>>25695253
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>>25695279
Chapter 14 is when they go into Stable 29 and find out about Vinyl.
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>>25695279
Cont.
I'm actually working my way through the highest rated FOE fics marked complete on FIMfic while I'm waiting for all of PH to be uploaded.
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YOU CAN'T HANDLE THIS 'TUDE
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>>25695253
>>25695292
Wicked fast image reaction game on point though, friend.
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>>25695321
I want to pop that bubble and laugh as she struggles to scrape the gum off her face.
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>>25695321
Dat brownhorse.
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>>25695299
Loophole acquired.

The stable is filled with nondescript skeletons, and Vinyl's room full of personal possessions.

Vinyl's body is not mentioned.
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>>25695321
I want this horse to bully me.
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>>25695513
Trust me. No one made it out of 29 alive.
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>>25695513
FUCK OFF PLANEFAG. IM STILL HERE, WATCHING YOU.
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>>25695514
That horse would bully you and take all your money and valuables.
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>>25695560
1. What's a planefag.

2. What are you wearing?
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>>25695560
What's it matter to you? You don't have to read my fanfictions.
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>>25695513
Read on a bit further, bud. Later on it shows that the stable is mercilessly killing everypony to help them not die from lack of water.

It says, and I quote:
"After three months, the water talisman failed altogether. The Crusader acted accordingly. To preserve Pony Life."

So, the take away is Vinyl died there.
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>>25695617
If the Crusader in 29 was the best computer Equestria had to offer, it's no wonder everything got blown to hell.
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>>25695617
Not just opening the door and shooing them all out?
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>>25695617
She and as many ponies that could move before being killed, hid up in the ventilation ducts.

This is my fanfictions, and I'll write it how ever I see fit.
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>>25695662
>This is my fanfictions, and I'll write it how ever I see fit.

And it will be complete and utter shit. Please don't birth another shitty fanfic into this already bloated subfandom.
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>>25695662
The ducts were filled with plasma. Anyone in them was melted horribly, painfully, and screaming into goo. Probably they were running into one big blob toward the end, just a mass of pony melting together like too many jolly ranchers left in the sun.
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>>25695645
Nope, it did things like giving one of the ponies industrial solvent instead of coffee and flooding the entire clinic when there were ponies present. Killed 'em dead.

>>25695662
I'm just giving you the canon from FoE and being helpful, settle down.

You're technically right though, it only ever says "skeletons" and doesn't specify her skeleton. In addition, it's implied the stable door was either open or at least not locked, since they got in while Pip (the resident lock-picker and hacker) was fainted.


That said, they do visit 24 again in chapter 33. I quote:
"The final resting place of Vinyl Scratch, the little pony in my head reminded me. The tomb of the original DJ Pon3. I quickly chose not to dwell on that. Down that path lay dark things."

But, she assumed and it's not specifically said Vinyl's remains were there. So go for it. Just know what the source material says.
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So, which rad horse would man which instrument in this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826RgTZojuk&index=4&list=RDEM552ALEUt22XiluLVNUpN1w
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>>25695819
Well, if the door was left open, or at least unlocked, then we can assume somepony found out a way to open it and escape.
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Hey guys! Map person here.

Good news, I did literally zero work on the map itself, but I talked a lot about it. I made a tumblr so it could be in a more permanent location as I udate it.

http://duall00.tumblr.com/

Take a look at my long-windedness. Or don't. I'm a random guy on the internet, I'm not the police.

I'll still update here when I get things done, though.
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>>25695585
see
>>25593492
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>>25696555
Okay, what does that have to do with Vampire Vinyl Scratch in the Equestrian Wasteland?
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>>25696626
>What's a planefag

That's what that is.
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>>25696626
How can you be this fucking new?
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Pretty bump.
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>>25688840
she does not look dead to me.
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>>25697370
Who is this Mattress Actress?
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>>25697447
Air Raid.
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>>25696021
Oh that's easy. Most of the virgins that write lesbian protagonists haven't even bought themselves a dildo to play with, and can't conceptualize it. Thus lesbians merely cuddle, and have sex by simply being present near each other.

Like seriously, how is a dildo supposed to get one off without motion? I have one up my ass right now and it does nothing other than make me feel like I need to drop a great big review of Project Horizons off.
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>>25697447
actor*
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>>25697849
Not if his acting's good enough.
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>>25697447
>filename
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LIVE, DAMMIT
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Are there any good art references for weapons redesigned for ponies to wield?
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>>25698729
Poke Lucid, he's good with that shit.
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>>25698743
Google didn't help, got links?
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>>25698781
>https://derpibooru.org/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&sbq=artist%3Ainlucidreverie
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>>25698799
>that first image
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I'm gonna try to ponify this shotgun.

The question is, how do I change it, while still keeping it recognisable?

Is it to be mounted on a saddle?

Would there be a mouth grip and have the hilt bend down to rest against the user's chest?
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>>25698729
The Overmare Studios is doing a game based on FoE, and they have some stuff on their website that shows pony weapons.

They also have a gameplay video the released a lil' bit ago that shows some 3D models of the guns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFM43gBPP7s

(You have to go about halfway through before they actual show anything.)
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>>25694891
>>25695174
>>25691850
You pictured in your mind's eye what would go down. It was good to have a plan of action but the memory of one of your instructors flickered through your head. He dedicated a lot of time to training you, despite you never being formally made part of his squad, temporary or not.
The sheer number of factors he could list off in any potential conflict or firefight stumped you every time. At first anyway, you started getting the hand of it later on.

'Adaptability is the difference between taking the upper-hoof and getting slaughtered,' he would say.

It felt poignant to remember that as you watched the red dot on your EFS back away from the edge of the rocks you were watching. You pulled your scarf up over your muzzle and followed it with the hood of your cloak over your head. The little hole stitched in the top was a nice addition you made for yourself, allowing you to pull the hood farther over your face and not be blocked by your horn. Good protection against dust, dirt, and blood...

The shotgun levitated in front of you to be inspected, ready for the fight. Then you began the count.

'One...'

You inhaled through your nostrils, slow and deep.

'Two...'

Out of you mouth came the soft release of that breath.

'Three...'

You surged forward, swiftly walking your way to the corner of the camp.

'Four...'

You stepped with your right foreleg and pivoted around the edge of boulder, facing the other stallion.

'Five.'

Your mental attention flicked at your pipbuck and time slowed to a crawl while Stabletech text floated up into your vision.

The buck had a somewhat nervous look on his muzzle, and he was turning his head back just in time to see you. If you waited just a few moments longer, that look of realization would cross over his face. Widening eyes, raised eyebrows, chest rising from air sucked into lungs frantically.

Those little things that told you a pony knew they were ambushed.

Cont.
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>>25699938
He may have had his weapon floating in his own field of telekinesis, but his state of unpreparedness was your boon. At this distance, selecting a single attack for his head was the best bet. Only one though, you knew to save the rest of the spell's charge. It wouldn't be like you'd need the extra help after the first shot anyway.

You followed the flow of the spells' effects, feeling it guide you into a firing position and blow a cone of hot lead into the face of your target. Tufts of coat hairs, blood, and chunks burst from your target's features as the iron shot tore into him. Time came rushing back to the echo of your shot and the piercing screams of the stallion you defaced. The slaves were also screaming and fighting their bonds in a panic.

Don't get distracted now.

You advanced quickly, firing another three shots into the target's chest, neck and belly. He had panicked and reared up as a result, giving you a nice clear view to his soft spots.

'Always take the advantage, and don't fight fair in a life and death situation,' he said.

Sound advice.

The third shot silenced him as he was thrown back into the wall of the camps' back. You immediately turned your head left and searched for a red tick. She had come back faster than you anticipated and was rounding the corner with a panicked look of her own.

Your last target was a full three ponylengths away from you at this point, beyond the effective range of the combat shotgun, and she was equipped with a submachinegun.

What do? Hints: You are still wearing combat armor, you still have a pistol, you still have a knife, you still have a bit of magic left in you, SATS still has some charge, and you have a small amount of medical supplies.
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>>25699128
Recall in chapter 2 that there are shotgun and rifle variants for ponies that do not need a saddle mechanism to fire. Your guess is as good as mine how aside from Earth Pony resilience how the kickback from a mouth grip shotgun doesn't do horrors for the teeth.
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>>25700022
What about vents in the barrel to reverse some of the gas?

Google says those are called a muzzle break.

Though, how effective they are seems to be minimal.
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Unf
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>>25693957
>>25693968
>>25694031
>>25694050
>>25694125
>hand drawn comic
Well it's not drawn by a machine, or a pair of feet. But it's digital for sure. It's the comic by Majorbrons: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Fallout-Equestria-Chapter-1-Page-23-376376990

It's a gold mine of silly faces. Overall the greatest of the FoE comic adaptions imo. Here's the last page posted so far: http://majorbrons.deviantart.com/art/Fallout-Equestria-Chapter-2-Page-62-526258817

From his latest journal in Oct 31:
>I'm still stubborn enough to tell you that I'm not giving up on it completely. Maybe it's just more lies I'm telling myself, but I feel like it isn't.
>Perhaps in a year or something I'll come back and feel compelled to start this again, and when I do it might be even better and easier than it was before.
But overall it seems like he's stopped for good, sadly.

In other things, MSPaint Adventures FoE has gotten pretty far: http://mspfanventures.com/?s=3851&p=216
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>>25701177
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https://youtu.be/yvGXCisAaR4

How do you bethkeks feel that Todd lied to your gullible asses yet again?
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So in the adventures of not!Snowdrop gets captured by raiders, how should the raider actions be defined? Lots of scrape of material, thud of walking, voices, or perhaps give her a talisman that she can tap to get a freeze frame of where she is, every five minutes?

Which would be more interesting or unusual, raiders that actually end up looking after her or an internal division between those who want to send a message to the mayor about her daughter, those looking for new meat, and those thinking helping not!Snowdrop through life would be more interesting?
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>>25701792
Well the first thing any author has to ask themselves is: Why? Why would these bloodthirsty, raping, mutilating raiders be interested in anything besides harming her or selling her for ransom?
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>>25699950
Follow through. Duck for cover, pistol out. Get ready to finish the job.

Even though we'd probably have to take another turn to do all that, I'd suggest that afterwards we toss something small and round out from one side of cover to distract her. Then, immediately leap out of the other side of our cover and SATS one more time to get a shot off before she can get a bead on us. The fewer bullets we have to take the better. We have the supplies to treat some injuries but I'd rather we keep hold of those for when we really totally need them.
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>>25701852
Well obviously some want to do pic, others are after the ransom from her mother.

I figured it'd be a bit different for some of the raiders, as she comes helpless. There is no buildup in your mind as you break her and it seems good to hurt something. Sort of like how you can go ever deeper into your porn, only to throw the computer away when you cum and wonder what the fuck you are doing with your life.
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>>25699950
Draw the pistol, drop to the ground and empty it into her.
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I have a question. If changelings are made to be parallels to Institute Synths, how would you differentiate between Generation I, II, and III changeling model/breeds in the nuclear wasteland world of Fo:E?
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>>25702255
I'd probably go with experience and practice differentiating them. They aren't robots in this instance, after all, so differences are more... squishy.

Rookies might be able to get the look down and can pass for one in a crowd, but can they pass scrutiny? Maybe they're awkward, haven't yet learned to mimic voices. Maybe they have a tendency to miss details - possibly large ones like eye colour.

Veterans blend more. Maybe they can be differentiated by interrogation - maybe they don't know their target well enough to duplicate scars or intimate details. Personal history might be an issue when interrogated - they can probably pass a basic fact quiz.

Elites? Well, they've all but become their target. Very difficult to spot.
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>>25702668
Maybe with the limited resources in the wasteland not every changeling can reach their full potential.
The best the basic worker drone can do might be to fill in the holes in its leg, hide the horn something to make its silhouette look like a pony from a distance , but clearly a changeling up close, not too much of an issue because they should mostly stay near the hive or get used as fodder in major assaults when infiltrators have weakened a settlement. The queens favorites or freshly born changelings selected to be infiltrators could fill the role of Gen3 synths with gen 2 somewhere in between.

Just like how most wastelanders don't have a set of pearly white teeth, over time a changeling who roams the waste, or a regular drone which gets enough love can pull off an imperfect disguise, instead of panel seam lines, there could be spots up close where the glow of changeling magic leaks through, the edge of the eyelids, mouth, under the chin, lines running across the inside of legs, etc. over time as they get exposed to mutagens, drugs or energy weapon damage open spots in the disguise appear.

They could be kept around because the hive values their experience in the wasteland, or a rouge drone successfully integrates themselves into a settlement, like Nick Valentine.
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>>25702255
I've seen changelings split into tiers of sorts in other fics, usually based around hives. Perhaps the Gen1 could be workers who are simplistic drones following the queens orders. Gen2 could be soldiers, more enduring and intelligent but still reliant on the queen. Gen3 could be infiltrators, capable of blending in, adapting and operating independently. The Coursers could be either highly trained Gen3 or the princesses of the hive.
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>>25702912
Heh, given Harkness was a former Courser, it'd be humorous if there was a rogue princess pretending to be a male security chief pony.

Alongside >>25702800 we're assuming that being bread for individuality is what may cause these categories of changelings to defect?
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>>25703060
That's how I'd do it. The difference between Gen1 and Gen3 would be the difference between dogs and diamond dogs.
I've got a sort of idea about how I'd make the defections work, but it'd take forever to type out.
Basically the infiltrators would be difficult to control. The queen would watch them very closely, but they're trained to deceive and think for themselves, and this treatment can itself convince them to try escaping.
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>>25702255
Changelings other than Chrysalis never talk beyond hisses, so just give them varying levels of intelligence.
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Why did Somber had to force relationship with Lil' Pip and her group into his fic?
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>>25703703
To get to the other side?
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>>25703915
Awww...

Who did, Neuro? Was it BluntTongs? he's the only one I know who does post-nuclear sprite pone.
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>>25703938
Rangelost
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>>25703915
dorbl
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>>25701860
>>25701983
It wouldn't be the end of the world if you took a few rounds, so long as it wasn't your head obviously.

You doubted she would hesitate to spray over the panicked pile of ponies trying to scramble to the end of their chains. To your surprise however, the bomb collared stallion had thrown himself over the two nearest captives while you eliminated the previous target.

You only had a glance but it appeared to be an attempt to shield them with his own body.

Distractions get you killed, remember?

Gunfire always had little particulars to the way they sounded. A heavy machine gun would chug along while it threw slugs down range. Rifles barked and cracked like ferocious dogs, snapping their jaws at offenders. Shotguns, like the one falling to the ground when you discarded your focus on it, tended to make a violent coughing noise or a roar depending on the rate of fire.

SMG's spit rounds out with a staccato of sharp pops and cracks, much like rifles if a little less loud.

They also stitch a painful line of tiny punches along your body if you hesitate.

You threw yourself forward and twisted into a roll to face the last target, slamming your side into the rocks painted in a thousand little dots of red that ran together with the course of gravity.

It pays have have a familiar weapon you don't even need to look at in order to bring to bear. The heavy pistol, made for earth ponies if what you were told once upon a time were to be believed, came floating up into view as you once more flicked your focus to the pipbuck on your leg.

Time slowed to a crawl again and you had just a few seconds before that SMG would catch up to you. It was almost fascinating to watch the muzzle flash followed by the small rounds soaring out into the space you rolled through a moment ago.

You queued up three shots. It was all you'd need with this faithful sidearm of yours.

Cont.
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>>25704364
Most pistols popped and spat when they went off. Revolvers cracked and roared, emulating their power and... elegance, in the hooves of some.

Yours was another beast entirely.

You had to fold your ears back when shooting this one. The noise it made was akin to it's namesake.

Scratched crudely into the action countless times over the years, before it came into your possession, was one word.

'HAMMER'

And like a hammer on steel, it pounded rounds out with a metallic *bang* so loud it silenced the camp.

Only the lifeless flop and the splatter of gore could be heard when the last target fell. Two to the chest, one to the head.

There was something about the way ponies flinched when they were hit. It always made those last headshots more... Decisive.

You let go of a pent up breath, feeling the adrenaline filter out of your system and the flaring pain on your left side come to your attention.

One slow turn of your head later, you watched the reactions of the other ponies from beneath the cover of your hood.

What do? Hints: There are 3 bodies you can still loot, you can interact with the survivors, or you can see if they make a move first.
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>>25704400
Turned your head left,*

Damn it
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>>25704400
Tell the slaves to stay still, loot the bodies for what we need and then give the one protecting the others whatever they need to free the others. I'm assuming there's something here for bomb collars. I'd rather not stick around after that though. The last thing we want is the slaves jumping us for our supplies.
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>>25704429
Wait, I'm retRded and I can't read my own posts.
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>>25704400
Loot the bodies first. Take the guns away then talk to the slaves
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> You will never be a simple wasteland homesteader
> Your farm will never be attacked by a gang of raiders led by a leather clad dominatrix
> You will never be captured
> You will never be forced to do lewd things to her gang and your family for her entertainment
> You will never be taken back to an old pre-war sex dungeon the raiders use as a base
> You will never be gimpsuited and tortured
> You will never get to eat the domme out
> You will never be forced to fuck her
> You will never finally break and call her "mistress"
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>>25704674
yikes
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>>25704674
heh
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so i just finished my reread in honor of Fallout 4
it took me like, a month because of school and then actually playing fallout 4 non stop

and in /fog/ a couple days ago i made reference to a PipLeg and that started a conversation about FoE, and even though it's not a great place for discussing pony stuff, something somebody said caught my eye. I asked if any of the spinoffs were worth reading and he said "they are basically all the things bad about FoE with none of the things it did right"

i took this to mean i shouldnt bother with them, but i actually dont really know to what he was referring
what did FoE do badly as a fiction? like, im not naive enough to think it's a perfect work, but im just not good at seeing that kind of thing
i really enjoyed reading it and that's all that matters to me

so is there any like in depth review of FoE y'all could recommend, to point out what might be "wrong" with it?
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>>25704802
The original FoE succeeded at world building and failed at characterization.

At least that's what I think.
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>>25704828
that's a fair assessment
it built an awesome world, that's for sure.
but i feel like Pip's characterization and growth was good, if only hers
maybe the whole "her friends are the elements of harmony of the people they looked up to" was kind of quick and easy characterization
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>>25704802
What FoE did right was how the main story was still, essentially, that Friendship was Magic. It kept the same heart of the show but with the general story of a Fallout game.

Most of the sidefics just have the setting of Fallout Equestria. Its just a story about people surviving a wasteland, only that theyre pone. What made Fallout Equestria Fallout Equestria was that it WASNT just Fallout with ponies (ironic given thats how the FimFiction entry begins). It was a story of MLP after a war. Most sidefics ignore that, which leads to their downfall.

Lets look at PH (easy target I know but meh). Whats it about other than gratuitous edge? Nothing really when you think about it. Sure the story itself is pretty decent, in depth and interesting, initially at least, but other than that its just edge, edge, edge. Thats why Pink Eyes was so good, it was a story about a kid trying to find her lost mother with FoE as a backdrop.

To summarise, a GOOD FoE story has an important moral code first, which is then expressed with FoE as a backdrop. A BAD FoE story is just "lol herez mi OC her nam is Blakjak and sheez da kewlest an she haz a groop of edgey fwends who go abowt killin an shit an therez moonbasez lelz!"

I hope this helps!
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>>25704883
cont. Where the story failed was the actual moral being about Friendship being Magic. The characterisation of everyone except Pip was pretty lacklustre. So while I stated that the moral story was more important than the FoE backdrop, Kkat was actually better at the FoE backdrop than the moral story.
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>>25704883
>>25704903
yeah, i totally see what you mean
i guess that's why even though i read it because i like ponies and love fallout, i didn't like it because of the fallout elements, i loved it because of the mlp elements
the whole "it's a quest for the elements of harmony to defeat the great evil" thing, that made it kind of like the first two episodes (which i loved), was what i really liked about it
it took that and twisted it with a fallout flair. the elements were twisted due to war but emerge on the other side, the spark is a pony, the great evil is also ponies

so yeah, worldbuilding to give mlp a fallout twist is A+
worldvuilding to give fallout an mlp twist is boring edgy bullcrap, which is generally a problem people have with understanding fallout's story and moral

the characterization did really seem to begin and end with "this person is the element of _____" except for littlepip. i cried many tears over littlepip
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Bamp
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Would manticores stalk ponies for prey? Or would they be more ambush predators, hiding on ceilings ready to strike?
Would they be pack animals like lions, or solitary?
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>>25706197
DO THE MONKEY WITH ME
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>>25706197
Love it!

Dancing* though.
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>>25705773
Every time I've seen manticores in FoE fics, they've been in a pack. From memory they just kinda run after prey, not so much stalking.
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>>25706280
Danse-ing*
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>>25706327
>Your spelling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7FixvoKBw
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>>25706396
anon pls
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>>25705773
In FoE they're presented as clumsy and lazy. They're in packs most of the time, and they tend to just run after prey in a pursuit.
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>>25706421
....I haven't played Fallout 4 yet because I am poor. My secret shame. =<
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>>25706451
Which platform? if it's Steam I'd gladly give you my account so you can try it out.
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>>25704400
Tell slaves to sit still. We know they're excited to be free and we would be too, but chill for just a couple of minutes longer.

Take guns. Last thing we need is someone deciding to rob us of everything to give themselves a head start on their new life.

Do we actually have an intention to free them?
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>>25706513
You'd really trust some stranger on the internet? I know I'm trustworthy, but you don't!

That said, definitely Steam.
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>>25703703

Mostly because I liked the idea and I wanted LP and BJ to have that connection. I had the opportunity when LP removed her memories and said she wasn't going to look at them again. I thought "Ahah! I can have BJ and LP getting the balefire bomb as one of those memories that was removed. Thus I get to write the meeting!

Before that, she basically woke up in the Collegiate and the story went from there.

This isn't really new for me though. I always invent characters and insert them into other fics. I have a whole headcanon of what BJ and LP would do if BJ grew up in Stable 2 rather than 99. (Hint: BJ teased LP sexually remorselessly.)
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>>25706295
>>25706437
So its pretty much, pony might see and run, only to die tired? Or is going to be savaged and have limbs torn by several mouths?

Yeesh.


I was kind of hoping for a solitary manticore and somebody finding out its there when the stinger tip pops out of their chest.
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>>25706752
You're really bad at the whole Occam's Razor thing, hey. Like right there, you found a way to cut, what was it, in excess of 9k words?

Might be something to work on if you really do want to make the new story less bloated than its predecessor.
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>>25706752
You really don't have a problem committing what is probably indisputably the biggest sin of fanfiction? You really don't see that as an egregious overstepping of bounds that you're the only one out of 2000+ fics that had the audacity to ship your OC with the protagonist of the source material?
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>>25706752
>>25707253
Honestly, Pip being in the story was the only reason I started on PH. I finished FoE and then set off to the interwebs to see what else there was. It said on the Wiki that Pip was in other stories (or at least mentioned).

So I read PH, Heroes, MN7, and Outlaw before any other sidefics.

I liked them all.
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>>25707377
I want to see a manticore pack go after her. Have them hunt around her turning ever closer to her.

Then start licking over her as they decide she is clearly too dirty a pegasus.Then sting her until she gets mistaken for Mach from all the welts.
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>>25707359
>liking PH
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>>25707473
I like it for the gorn and edge.
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>>25707498
Oh I know. I enjoyed it in the same way I enjoy most Nick Cage movies.
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>>25707473
See
>>25695253
>>25695292
>>25695329
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>>25707512
Gone in 60 Seconds was a good movie, I don't care what anyone says.
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>>25707518
:^)
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>>25707544
Godspeed, anon.
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>>25707709
>>25707729
Does Erth mind porn of his characters?
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>>25707744
I know there is porn. Not sure what he thought of it though.
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can anyone give a tldr summary of the last act of PH? I don't think I can read anymore after the cyberalicorn nonsense a couple years ago, let alone a quarter million words worth
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>>25707866
Blackjack gets violently gored, disembowled, set on fire, acid attacks, mind fried, angel wings of blood, fire, and the hope of all the ponies she has met, blows up Yog Sogoth with a summoned katana made of Celestia's holy light, then dies with him to ensure his evil is gone forever.
Soul then jumps into her blank clone and she gets sex with Pip for every day of the week for the rest of her life.

Unfortunately Boo/Eris was literal on the every day of the week part, so Blackjack gets 7 Pip fucks for the rest of her now immortal life. She has used 6 in 2 centuries.


Glory ends up getting her wings caught in a cave in, ends up swinging herself such that they rip off to get scotch tape out of Yog Sogoth's collapsing lair.

P21 is still impaled on the moon, no homo though.

And Rampage loses her phoenix talisman and reverts to a kid when the NCR's budding space program sends Blackjack up there to rescue her.
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>>25707744
I wrote porn of Sierra and Wander so I'm sure he won't mind at all.
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>>25679017
>>25681043
>>25681216

FYI, that link's not updated anymore either. Shit's hosted on a wiki now so that everyone has access instead of needing to vet changes with a dictator.

http://fort-muny.wikia.com/wiki/Fort_Muny_Wikia
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>read FOE
>its ok
>try to read PH
>literally red and black alicorn oc
>try to read MN7
>I hated the Pitt DLC
>skip ahead and find out he never leaves the fucking city
so side stories are just trash right?
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>>25704674
>tfw
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>>25708289
Read Treasure Hunting, its a good fic.
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>>25708289
If you've got shit taste then yeah.

(for real though, a lot of them actually are shit. it's unfortunate.)
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>>25708289
>I hated the Pitt DLC

MN7 is a lot more than the Pitt DLC. If you can't grasp that, then you have shit taste.
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>>25708289
Depends on what you like in FoE and what your tastes are. Seems like you're a negative nancy, so no idea what you want from the world.

Ones you haven't mentioned that are pretty good:
>Outlaw (the non-rewrite version is still up, too)
>Wasteland Economics
>Heroes
>Pink Eyes
>Sisters

And then of course there are ones that everyone says are quality, but I can't attest to yet, like Treasure Hunting and Duck and Cover.

I also like Ouroboros, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you can stomach multitudes of grammar/spelling issues.

That said, I feel like MN7 is not as divisive as PH and I haven't really heard anybody dislike it except people who are amazingly picky or didn't like FoE in the first place. I would recommend giving it another shot. It's a bit slow to pick up, but when it does it's quite a ride.

Or you could possibly have shit taste, as the other anon says.
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>>25708393
No love for Broken Steel, or the Eerie?
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>>25683689
>Every good author has their own spatial cognizance
Well there's your problem.

>so there IS a map Kkat used
Nope. Kkat is, as ever, incredibly evasive about that shit and always pulls the "well its up to the FANS to imagine it" excuse. You'd think Kkat would have, you know, *said* something to that regard if there even was an iota of a consistent map in existence, mental or not. That and Kkat has the most batshit crazy ideas for geography; one of those semi-canon blog posts said "Shattered Hoof was far up north" by the arctic fucking circle, and that the quickest route to the zebra lands was by a fucking polar land bridge, and all of the war was fought over that (but "mostly at sea" which is absurd). I think it's safe to say that whatever idea of the land's shape Kkat had when writing is outright unusable.

>in her head
>her
kek

>There was a map all the way back in S1
Not an official one, of either show canon or FO:E canon.

Mate, look. The entire story is rife with glaring inconsistencies. Geography is just one of them. Let it go. The only thing that lies down the path you're on is insanity.
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>>25708431
If he wants to do it I don't see the problem.
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>>25708472
I'm just saying, looking for logic in something so downright inconsistent is pointless.
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>>25708424
>No love for Broken Steel, or the Eerie?
Broken Steel is on my to-read list, I just haven't yet.

I haven't heard of The Eerie until now, so on your recommendation I'm adding it to the to-read list as well.

I haven't read much beyond what I just listed, desu. That's why I can't attest to the quality, because I haven't actually read them. I have a backlog of about 50 stories I want to read at this point.


>>25708431
>her
Always referred to as her, benefit of the doubt, etc etc.

>Not an official one
Yeah, I've actually had my opinions changed massively since I posted that with the research I've done. She would've *technically* had a map from Granny Smith showing four locations roughly around chapter 24, if I'm getting my timing correct. But yeah, it wouldn't of helped at all by that point. If you're curious what one, check the second post I made: duall00.tumblr.com

>whatever idea of the land's shape Kkat had when writing is outright unusable
Well, a few things with that:
1) Yes. Absolutely correct. I didn't know it at the time, but I do now. Things like Manehattan being a two day trip from Ponyville and things like that.
2) All of her blog posts she has specifically made non-canon, they are just her headcanon.
3) That being said, some of her descriptions are damn near Pinkie Pie levels or precognition. One such thing is she mentions a gorge on the way from Hope/Ironshod to Appleloosa. There is indeed a gorge. I read over quite a bit that never stood out until I started /really/ combing through, but the first time I was reading through to get locations I got to Splendid Valley before the saddle rubbed.

>The only thing that lies down the path you're on is insanity.
Yup. Still gonna give it a go though.

Honestly, I appreciate the feedback, however barbed it was meant to be. If I hadn't of learned all that in the past few days, you would have made me do so.

>>25708472
Thanks for the support! Or at least I think it's support! <3
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>>25708570
Ah well, Datte isn't the best of writers for the EErie, but Crystal Eclair is a minor god with his writing. I'd say you should read Broken Steel as your next one, since you seem to be in a bit of a funk with the other ones being praised, but not grabbing you.
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>>25708119
what is this talk about going to the moon
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>>25708591
>Crystal Eclair is a minor god with his writing.

...Please don't tell me you mean who I think you mean
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>>25708612
Welcome to Somberita ville, unfortunately, he torched maragaritaville to make it, so no drink to soothe the tortured mind.
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>>25708591
anon PLS
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>>25708591
Well, it's not that they're not grabbing me. It's that I haven't /read them/ yet. Everything I've read so far I've like other than one, but I want to give it a second chance since it's generally liked. I have it also on the back-burner to give it another shot.

After I'm done with the map, I've been passing glances at Treasure Hunting, so that will probably be the next one I'll read. I'll keep Broken Steel in mind though!
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>>25708638
Anon, no, the broken steel thing was a joke suggestion. It's an absolute shit-tier fic by a shit-tier writer.
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>>25708638
Anon he's tricking you. Broken Steel is arguably one of the worst fics in this fandom. Crystal Eclair is not a minor god with his writing, he's developmentally challenged, but I don't want to beat that dead horse any more.
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>>25708638
Bullshit Extended is NOT a fic you need to read. That anon is trying to fuck with you.

Admittedly, it would have been hilarious to see you come back in with PTSD and start looking for answers, but for God's sake, save yourself the trouble.
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>>25708666
You know there are gods of pain and madness right?

>>25708717
Spoilsport, I wanted to see a great big fucking why post that sent readfag home to mommy with his tail tucked between his legs.
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>>25708570
>Desu
W-what..? I didn't type that... did I..? I typed the acronym for to be honest... Does it change that?

desu

I guess we'll see...

>>25708665
>>25708666
>>25708717
>Broken Steel is worst sidefic.
Well, okay. The more you know!

Maybe when I polish off the to-read list, I'll check it out for the lulz. And/or the apparent PTSD.
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>>25708747
>being this new

it's a wordfilter m8
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>>25708747
desu baka senpai
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>>25708765
I can see that, but I had no idea that was on the filter list. I remember it used to do a few, but I thought they got rid of them. Shows how often I use the words in question.
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>>25708747
There's also Frozen Skies if you're into reading about a frozen, desolate shithole. Kind of the opposite of The Pitt, right?

And there's Longtalons, if you wanna read about a griffon, Talon. Relatively short, at least so far. I guess it might almost qualify as "Slice of Life," if it could encompass the themes of depression and PTSD done really well.
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>>25709132
They are on the list, I checked it twice.

Gonna find out if they're naughty or nice.

I have a lot of reading to do.
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>>25706716
>>25704450
>>25704440
Sorry guys, I'll post again tomorrow. Promise.
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>>25708133
I drew porn of Sierra and wander so i'm sure he won't mind that at all either.
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>>25707544
>>25707572
now edit it so all of them are (you)
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>>25709978
anon fucking pls we have our own reaction images
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>>25708327
He does never leave the fucking city though (except once for like five minutes and gets brought back in a stupid way).
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>>25710036
Man I remember when requested reaction images were in demand.

We should do that again, what images do ppl want to see edited for Wasteland horse?
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>>25707524
But it isn't a Nick Cage movie?
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Windsheer circled lazily around the lake, enjoying the warm air pushing up against his feathers. Having spent a week scavenging, he was ready to relax and enjoy some peace at his cabin. At least for the day, tomorrow he would need to clear out the brush that had grown up in his absence. For now though, he contented himself with the lazy no flapping joy of a thermal, far from anyone who might get adventurous thoughts with a gun. It’d been a while since he had left Calamity, since the Enclave had fallen, but he felt it was still a good idea to not meet the family yet. The pony on the radio spoke highly of him as an element of loyalty, something he found darkly for his traitorous little brother. The thoughts weight heavily on the tan pegasus, his body reflexively gliding to follow his head down toward the water’s surface.

Flaring his wings, Windsheer slid into the water, pushing up a small wake as he went. One of the few things he had picked since that day in Manehattan was how to swim, something he rather enjoyed doing. For now, he contented himself with treading water and floating about sunning himself. He lost himself in the pleasantness of the situation, not paying attention to the stirring in the grass at the far end of the pond.

Do you:
A) Continue to be a pegaduck
B) Head inside
C) Assume direct control of the rustling
D) Other
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>>25712475
A
Always A
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>>25712475
C
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>>25711021
Doge!
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>>25711021
Ye I miss making reaction images for you guys. Y'all used to ask me for them all the time. Even VRfag and Riddles (pls) stopped asking for stuff.
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>>25712730
>>25712726
Thumtulu peered out from the reeds, her slit eyes watching the pegasus that moved like a duck. She had lost her pride when the dark ball of light came, its ill shine driving them from their hunting grounds as it burned the shadows from which they prowled. She had spent many of these darkless times searching for a new hunting ground, wandering far from the fallen masses of pony built sky bones. She wished she was still with the rest of the manticores, if only so she could once more be with Kimtholo and raise her own children. Idly her poison barbed tail flicked at the thought, the grass she was in rustling softly on a windless day.
Windsheer continued lazing about on his back, wings spread as he was lulled into a state of peace by the sun. It was difficult for a pegasus to feel like this, the normal reaction being to right themselves from the flip, but here he found the water did well to calm that instinctual fear. It was amusing how many primal things there still were guiding pegasi. Thumtulu continued to watch, her green eyes blending with the reeds, unknowingly so very ready to show just how primal things would be for Windsheer.
Do you:
A) Go after the pegasus that moves like a duck, water cannot stop us, right?
B) Wait, he needs to get out at some point, his smell covers the cave of tree corpses.
C) Make attracting noises and motions, get him to come close that he may be pricked by our stinger
D) Other
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>>25713302
>tfw you mention me
>in your reply
>to me
Pls
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>>25713934
you pls
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>>25706720
Sorry about the silence friend, I passed out in a drunken stupor and have been at work all day.
Yes, I trust you.
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>>25713934
So Riddles, what sort of ponies do you like? Please, do share.
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>>25713811
C
Lure him in with the sweet music of our voice.
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>>25713963
Depends.

Unicorns are the master race, obviously. You can't beat the utility of magic.
Earth ponies are powerful, enduring, and make some of THE best soldiers.

And Pegasi are simply too sexy to NOT want to do unspeakably lewd things to.

Can you be more specific? Nymph?
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>>25713302
I would like a pip version thank you pls.
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>>25713950
Well, in that case I'd love to take you up on that if I can! Steam is duall00, for contacting and such.
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>>25713302
Do it, you wont
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>>25714265
Thank you friend, sent a request and such!
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>>25714274
You're right, I won't.

Because you all you did was link a picture and tell me I won't.
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>>25714290
Logged in, waiting on the code. =)
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>>25714383
4PHPR
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>>25714306
But that's supposed to be reverse psychology! It's the football coach method, you put them down so they will want to surpass you!

Baka Sempai

Pretty please?
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>>25714402
Worked, switching back over!
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>>25714404
I'm fairly sure he wanted you to be more specific.
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>>25714422
Cookie for anon.
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>>25714419
Glad it's working okay, friend
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>>25704802
I could ramble about this for hours.

tl;dr Pip is a weird loner with no hobbies and narcissistic personality disorder telling an autobiography in which the entire world revolves around her in order to appease a population she's just committed a war crime against as the cherry on top of a mountain of bodies she's piled up all over the wasteland as she fights for some ill-defined ideal of friendship. The scenery's nice though
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>>25714422
Oh. Pip version, please. Though Steelhooves saying it would be funny as well, then Pip giving the opposite of "Yes, I am a wizard."
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>>25714556
>my sides
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>>25714556
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>>25711021
I'd like to see pic related with a variety of characters. Homage and Pip. Astral and Sapphire. Calamity and Pip.

But mostly I think I'd like to see Velvet and Pip.
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>>25714511
captain hoers pls
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>>25714631
jesus i am transparent
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>>25714032
All I know is you like pegasi in lightweight bondage gear that looks like a SFW but lewd dominatrix. Like pic.

Beyond that, no real clue. Your Arcflash RP has\been open since it was written and still unread.
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>>25714759
>Lightweight
Pls. That's just what kind of clothes I think are sexy on pone.
You can't make that call unless you read more or if you make a Pegasus character and allow me to break them.
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>>25714511
I honestly really want to hear the long version of this...
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>>25715040
Lightweight as in their actual weight and usage. IE, not studded leather stropps and all that make you confused for a raider. Nor items that are intended as part of pain compliance play, ala internal studds.

But by all means yes, I'll resend when you log into the IRC, have fun with whatever it is you do.
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>>25715169
>tfw you will never have polite nice conversations with Alloy the elf.
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>>25715315
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>>25715169
Ah, that makes more sense.
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Ayyy finally we're back. Now I can ask

>>25714618
Which pones where, anon?
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>>25678415
>Well I can't deny that they bombed on this idea
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>>25715875
>Goddammit Carlos I will use my unlimited bladeworks and stab you so many time that it puts a new meaning in acupuncture.
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>>25715890
Calm the fuck down Shiro and go back to the east.
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>>25715875
*pinches nose*
Words can't describe my hate for you now...
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>>25715875
I hope you step on a lego.
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>>25716004
I second that
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>>25714556
I think by the time the Enclave decided to exterminate everything that lived below the clouds, all bets were off.
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>>25715829
>>25715829
Homage/Velvet/Calamity=Twi
Pip=Dash
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>>25716083
So I'm pairing everyone with Pip?
>>25716110
I too noticed that also.
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>>25715829
Really, it could work with many different combinations. Calamity/Velvet, for example.
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>>25716216
No Homage though. Homage a shit. You want Homage, you do it.
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>>25716229
Gimme the AI files and I'll gladly do it myself.
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>>25716229
Anon pls.
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>>25716041
I'd love to see those bitches try
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>>25716041
Except Pip nuked harbinger and crew first.
Then Homage blew up a tower, which in her own words meant she had just severely escalated everything as they now saw the muddies were an imminent threat all life.

First Pip goes prying into guarded areas surrounded by a deadly cloud of pink death looking for a tome of occult knowledge known to be a major source of necromatic magic, then she goes off and nukes a leading general, and his ship, without letting any warnings go off of what is being done. Mind that this very general was the leading expert on groundside relations.

Then Homage makes it go from something short into a literal fight for survival no different than the US rampaging about after Al Queada.

And finally, Red Eye demonstrates he had been fully planning for to fight the Enclave for years with his hard counter bypass spells, dragon, and means of assaulting ships and clouds.

So no, the Enclave reacted very rationally in the total absence of Strawberry genetics. At no point does Khat remeber to point of Red Eye planning to take over the SPP as a new goddess was actually a very big reason for the Enclave to be terrified. Instead its all villains but Pip, even though she is responsible for killing 2/3rds of the great powers, and summoning another third into a fight for their lives, to which they lose.
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Do you guys think a faction purely consisting of Lawful Good members would be fuckin boring or do you think it could be interesting?
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>>25716376
Bleh, you know very well Pip didn't go out of her way to assassinate an Enclave general with her nuke, it was to destroy an abomination that was fucked in the head and almost impossible to kill otherwise. I don't think an asylum would've worked for the goddess.

I don't see how Littlepip is the villain here overall. It's like saying she's a villain for slaughtering the cannibals at Arbu, or just raiders in general. In reality she's just cleaning the wasteland of the filth that has been actively preventing ponies from feeling safe on the roads and in their homes. The Equestrian wasteland isn't america btw.

Let's not also forget that the Enclave took Homage's radio off the air, preventing her from further broadcasting about how the Enclave were "mistaking" regular wastelanders, farmers, etc for raiders and slaughtering them. A prime example of their trigger discipline is shown later on in Friendship City. Homage's prime objective was to get her warnings out to the populace but was hunted along the way as a result. It's not like she did all this shit just to be a bitch and a living middle finger against the Enclave.
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>>25716376
Pip is the agent of eventual change for the better.
When a system is corrupt you need to break it and replace it, and that means upsetting a lot of people, because no matter how shit the system is they still needed it.
Things would have ended far worse without her, considering the plans of every faction were far from peaceful.
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>>25716833
>>25716898
IE protagonist centered mortality.
We have manslaughter charges precisely for actions that result in unintentional death of innocuous methods.
However as Pip fully knew the dangers, and meticulously planned, she is guilty of second degree murder for every life on the thunderhead, and the followups across the wasteland as part of the felony bystander law.
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>>25716950
So?
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>>25716950
>felony bystander law
>laws
You had me for a while there tho
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>>25716829
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>>25717007
Okay so without laws, then the Enclave were even more correct as the muddies were all bandits and outlaws. The Enclave were thus bringing Equestrian law and justice to the wastes.

>>25717000
Its rather like asking why should anybody care for pip or her actions, she didn't do anything for them beyond stop them from prancing clothed about and lazing about with pants, shirts and socks on the top of their shacks with nopony around to see their debauchery.
Now tower pip watches when they go clothed.
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>>25717784
You and I both know Pip uses those cameras to ogle mares all day.
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>>25716829
I dunno, how invested are you with FO4's Minutemen?
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>>25717784
The Enclave had it coming. The total cloud coverage was entirely unnecessary, and was maintained purely out of a total disregard for the surface and a desire to blind their own population. They denied the surface agriculture, the most fundamental building block of civilization, and kept them in a state of decay and fear. If the Enclave hadn't done so then the surface would have been in a better condition, and the lawlessness and banditry you speak off would not have existed in such quantities. How great an effect they had is irrelevant though. At the end of the day they were selfish at the cost of others and it bit them in the ass. It doesn't matter if your neighbor is the nicest guy in the world or a total cunt, you keep throwing bricks through his window and you shouldn't be surprised when he starts doing doughnuts on your lawn.
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>>25719067
So riddle me this then.
How does an apple orchard from a stable grow in Junction R2 without the Sun?
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>>25719085
What you mean the irradiated shithole? That's not agriculture.
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>>25719085
The cloud cover doesn't block out 100% of the suns rays. If it did, it would be pitch black every day.

Sunny days give plants way more light than they need, actually. Most plants build up resistance to the sun so it doesn't kill them. A constant cloud cover is a perfectly healthy environment for trees to grow in.
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>>25719104

Even better, apples in New Apploosa to turn into Apple whiskey?
Clearly not wanting for your agriculture here when they can be flicked into delicious brew.
Now can it be dark when shapes are discernible on the horizon and day and light are clearly shown across the land.
Further, most ponies deigned to eat the preserved food, even in Tenpony where Monterary Jack operated a fresh cheese stall.
Of which fresh cheese would need livestock,and with it the support of varying fresh greens as well.

>>25719115
Correct, the cloud cover had no effect on agriculture. It was entirely the issue of the fallout in the majority area from Celestia dismantling the 5 missiles. This eliminates Sweet Apple Acres and surrounding environs, of which at the point in the show were the presumed majority food supply area.
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ASIDE from Pip, recast your (un)favorite side-fic hero as the villain and justify the actions of those story's antagonists.
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>>25719845
.............when did Heroes get an actual cover? That's amazing looking.
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>>25720014
Not enough Scootaborg.
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>>25704440
>>25704450
>>25706716
The surviving ponies were wide eyed and shocked. You briefly imagined that you could have looked quite intimidating.

Part of you liked it.

Sweeping the pistol back in their direction and turning to stride towards the last stallion you put down, you kept your gaze locked on them and spoke.

"Stay there."

It was all you felt like saying, and hopefully it was all you needed to say. The ponies watched you with nervous glances between each other. Bomb-Collar was trying to extricate himself from the two ponies he had tried to protect, mare and a stallion, both a bit younger than the rest.

You didn't overstep and get on his case for moving around like that, despite your command. It probably wasn't too comfortable.

When you reached the stallion, you holstered your side arm and picked the shotgun back up and got to work on stripping the stallion of his things.

>Semi automatic rifle
>32 rounds of 5.56 plus a medium size magazine near full
>2/3's full canteen
>small flask of whiskey
>half eaten ear of corn


You saved time by taking the bags themselves. The leather it was made from seemed to keep everything intact.

This was lucky. Maybe it was karma balancing out? Or was it because you took it by force.

No time to dwell.

You threw the saddle bags over back, and kept the shotgun in the open.

Not aimed at them, that would only make things worse.

You never showed your back to them when you turned, keeping your head on a swivel to track them while you moved to "Boss" as Lavender had called her.

Lifeless eyes. They're hard not to look at. Will you look like that some day?

You closed her eyes with a gently sweep of your mental focus, before a voice broke the silence.

"She's got the detonator..."

You paused and looked at the source. Bomb-Collar, dark tan coat, short brown mane.

"I won't get in your way, but, please let me help them."

He didn't sound as old as he looked, and he had some expression you couldn't decipher.

Cont.
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>>25720413
Was it the determination in the way his brow was knit? Or honesty in the thin line he made with his lips. Maybe the concern in his eyes.

They weren't blank and lifeless. It was a contrast worth noting for a moment.

What do? Hints: You have a fair amount of knowledge about bomb collars. A pony showed you how to get one off once. Items and some weapons you pick up can be used in clever ways to solve problems at hand.
Sorry for posting so late. Super off day at work.
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I feel bad about this, but I think I've reached the point where FOE sidefics need to do more to get me to read them. They can't just be good, they have to be quite special.

I've read too many to forgive common flaws or by-the-numbers beginnings.
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>>25720430
Ask him if he knows how to remove bomb collars, and why he's wearing one.
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>>25720434
Are you referring to newly submitted sidefic attempts or popular titles circa 2011-2013 you happened to not have picked up? I mean, if the former I totally agree with your sentiment.

I'm of the opinion that we've all cemented on the ones we like so far and nothing else because we made up a system where the happenings of the sidefics could feasibly happen in tandem with each other and the main fic. Heroes, MN7, Pink Eyes come to mind, it's actually quite surprising how the geography works out. Frozen Skies and Treasure Hunting may also count on those merits.

With the niches all filled up, it's quite hard these days finding something both new, good and special these days.

Tell me if you rolled your eyes the moment these comes up in a new story.
-Human Tag
-"Two Years before Littlepip..."
-"Fifty Years after Littlepip..."
-"Inspired by hearing of the Lightbringer's adventure, X embarks on..."
-The mention of any Stable going past 101 (since no other Stables were officially completed after that)
-Descriptions in stories that start off with "Takes place x years before the events of..."

Which in the minds of those authors, were probably thinking they're were being special with their ideas, when in fact they should have aiming for something that the viewers didn't know they wanted but now they do once reading it.
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>>25721239 con't

Case in point, I myself was guilty in virtually every regard. Bland, awful color-palette protagonist. Especially thinking this would've made an adequate cover art.

Surprisingly, despite /foe/'s frequent injection of fetishes into the setting, you're straight forward in singling out the bad in characters, and stopping a potential train wreck before it starts. Outlaw, Treasure Hunting, Frozen Skies, Wasteland Economics, and recently The Things We've Handed Down used input from /foe/ and all carries up well.

Hopefully in the near future I'll shill my redesigned protagonists and story for /foe/ to dissect again
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>>25718848
Haven't played it yet, but Preston Garvey's "United We Stand" perk which got spoilered for me is basically how I'd sum up the faction. They're pretty idealistic but comparatively small.
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Am I a bandwagoning shill for having my story be heavily inspired by Fallout 4?
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>>25701177

>MSpaitn adventure FOE is dead since over a year

man fuck, i will never get my comic of FOE, wont I?
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>>25721822
I don't see a bandwagon yet anon. But then I don't sit on fimfiction looking for FoE fics, so maybe I've missed the salsa.
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>le pip was the evil one

I come back to this thread after months and I see nothing has changed

Next up: How the Witch was actually the glorious revolutionary leader to free OZ from the Wizards evil opression until that bitch from arkansas came around. That fucking Mary sue
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>>25721867
The thing is aside from the issue of rehashing, many are not convinced of Pip, in the same way many remain unconvinced of their own leaders and issues.
The stated actions do not align with the observable reality, and consequently you look more.
Just as much as how we were told in '93 removing Saddam would destabilize the area by Cheney, then he goes off and does just that a decade later, saying it was needed for 9/11. Now we see the '93 prediction is right, and that Iraq had zilch to do with 9/11.
We can also point to Libya and the current refugee crisis, actions don't match words.
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>>25722048

Look I aint saying Pips a saint. Neither does the story itself..

I just get pissy when people do as if the fic is a censored, reinterpreted book of real propaganda for a fictional world.
Which is the way a few people here seem to argue. Which is somewhere between insane and retarded.

And other havent read the fic in 4 years, and just parrot halftruths about the fic that never were in it that way.
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>>25721867
Actually if you read the prequel books to OZ, that ones actually quite a bit more true than you want for your example.
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>>25721239
>>25721275

Well, mostly the former. I've read all the popular titles. Some were abandoned, others have been read to completion.

The niche thing is part of it, but I suppose there is some burnout too. I usually pick up titles based on a like/dislike ratio on Fimfic. Mostly I aim for titles with at least a 3:1 ratio.

However, I find myself not getting far past the first couple of chapters. Stable or Wanderer origins don't interest me, and as I said before I am less forgiving of grammar or spelling mistakes.

Purely based on what others have done, and order of sidefic release, I expect more from writers now. It's somewhat unfair that they have to do more and more simply because of the seconds ticking by or because of what others have already done, but whatever hook they have in their story needs to be introduced almost immediately, and effectively, or else my focus fades.

We talk about making room for new writers and not just rehashing the older stories and/or discussion of the older stories, but the bar for entry is higher than it was back then.

There's no real way to lower it either.
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>>25722087

Well im glad I havent then. That trope is the most overused cheapest tool ever.

It is so fucking easy to paint something as "actually" evil and come of as "deep and thoughtfull" in the process.
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>>25722107
It was more grey than evil and went into the metaphysics behind OZ. Most specifically, nobody can die in OZ.

There's actually a sandy desert sea made up of the abraded and still living people that came from a war. When the witches were all in power, they weren't having wars as any one player risked being attacked by all three if they acted up. Dorthy destabilized this in Glenda's favor and ensured a lot of personal hell tortures for Ozians.
Apparently, this was actually the plan from the author's notes entirely, its just people got the Disney pop cultured technicolor movie, not what it actually was about.
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>>25721239
>>25722097
Anons, what makes a story stand out for you? What makes it different and unique enough for you to read it?
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>>25722130

Mkay, i can respect that, that sounds rather well thought out.

I gues what im trying to say is: If this thread was about those books, people here would argue Dorthy knowingly guided her house on top os the first witch with full intend, because she must cleanse the lands.

Get what I am trying to say? This thread tends to exergate, put out of context, or conjure stuff out of thin air while forgetting other stuff completely.
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>>25722138
At least in part, writer knowledge. If I can read a story and actually learn something tangible from it, I find myself enjoying it. Doesn't have to be usable - most instances I've seen are of things I'll probably never do. But knowledgeable writers lead to knowledgeable characters, I feel, and it's a great way for a writer to "show off" through their characters. Not in... an arrogant way, I suppose. Poor example - Gun Nut type stuff. I mean, I enjoy it, but I can certainly see the turn off to a general audience. Good example - giving characters a trade (smith, trader, mercenary, mechanic... what have you), making it part of them, and going into detail, at least some - enough to hint that there's more. Have it flavour the character.

That's a pretty big thing for me.
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>>25722138
Unfortunately, I don't know concretely. It's not a paint-by-numbers exercise. Trial and error is the only way I know how to do it. I need to read a story that puts a concerted, well-executed effort into the opening chapter to show how it's going to play itself apart from others, and then judge whether it has grabbed me or not.

Safe to say this causes me no end of frustration.
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>>25722180
Actually it would be Glenda dropping Dorthy's house.
Which would leave an unworkable part here as I said.
Had some other character caused Pip's departure, then maybe it would work, otherwise we can much more safely say that Dorthy's house was purest accident ala Watcher finding Pip and setting her off on a mission of death.
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>>25721867
>>25722048
>>25722075
I'm not saying she's a villain - just that the ending is a lot happier than her actions deserve. Unambiguous good clashes with Fallout, and satisfying stories can be told without an unambiguous good guy.

And before the "but MLP" line comes out, that's even starker dissonance that was just waiting to be capitalised on, but never was. Instead it was used to just kinda de-problematise the elements that the Fallout heritage brings to the table. The elements were not used to complement each other, but to deaden each other.
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Hella late but just read last FS.

Well that backstory chapter was really retarded. Really, nothing better than a shitty "wrong place wrong time" said the edgy scarred character? You lost a reader.
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>>25722254
Strong characterization, basically. The writer's knowledge makes the character seem real and believable.

>>25722473
So, the opening chapter makes or breaks most stories for you. In the opening chapter, the fic has to show what unique aspects it has to offer, pull you in, and be written properly.
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>>25722900
Well, I'm sorry to hear that.

Have a good one, I guess.
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>>25722900
It did seem forced having Crafter literally forced out of the stable, but I think it was handled well, as far as "stable leavings" go. I preferred him being forced out by pragmatic, apathetic characters that just wanted to get their job done, rather than it being some conspiracy to kick him out, or having his crush get kicked out and he leaves to rescue her, or having him leave to go get another water talisman. One alternative could have been having Crafter get chosen to be one of the ponies that gets kicked out, but that would still be "wrong place wrong time" in a way, and very coincidental and expected.

Initially, it didn't seem to me like it was a chapter that needed to be written, and that all the backstory could have been included through dialogue between Snap and Crafter, but it's probably important to Crafter's character arc later on in the fic.

I liked it, but I can understand why you didn't, I think.
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>>25722900
FS?
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>>25722869
Was it all happy though?

It was more ambigiously open to interpretation for me then anything else. The epiloge mentions growing raider activity, and that ghouls are denpendant on watershipments from outside equestria due to the gardens. I gues it may have been a tad too happy ending, but for me it always seemed more open ended then anything else.

But eh, I can respect your Opinion, maybe I just interpret too much into it, or just differently.
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>>25722900
Yeah I think the reason for kicking Crafter out was pretty retarded.

>>25723214
>Initially, it didn't seem to me like it was a chapter that needed to be written, and that all the backstory could have been included through dialogue between Snap and Crafter

Agree. Very filler.

Also, I don't know if I am the only one but Crafter felt very different in this, like he was a completely different character. Hell, it felt like reading a different fic.

>>25723218
Frozen Skies
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All this talk of what constitutes a new sidefic worth reading at all makes me nervous about my own work in progress. In a strange tidbit, I worry most about how not to ruin 'dolphin snout' and 'mohawk horn pone' as time goes by.
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>>25723340
Details, please. We can't dissect your premise with just pics to infer with.
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>>25723340
>Dolphin Snout
>Mohawk Horn Pone
Well giving them names would be a good start.
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>>25723340
I feel you. I'm planning put my first few chapters right now and I nervously second guess every decision I make.
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>>25720439
It couldn't hurt to ask him a few questions while you picked through "boss's" things. You started with her saddle and the attached submachine gun while you spoke.

"Do you know how to get that collar off?"

The buck swallowed and nodded, "yeah, but I need an extra pair of hooves..."

Figures.

You interrupted him with your second question while you stowed the now disconnected gun into it's owners pack. A brief peek inside revealed pare ammo, more caps and food, but you were looking for something else.

'There it is', you thought to yourself.

You kept the detonator hidden from view but within reach when you addressed him again.

"Why are you wearing it then."

The stallion paused and glanced to the other ponies around him. They still seemed nervous but no longer scared as they looked between him and you.

"Well, ya see, I wus just doing my job to collect them and bring them to my employer. He wanted to hire 'em to grow food for his ponies. Employee's, workers, slaves, ever'pony."

His accent was coming through the swollen lip a bit clearer as he spoke, and it was becoming quite familiar.

"The others..." He continued, "They wanted to sell these folk off to a group of raiders up north for a profit instead. I tried to tell them this was wrong and that we were betraying our boss, but they didn't listen. Decided I was trouble."

'Raiders up north' huh? Sounds like it could have been the Sky Hounds. Did these slavers even know what that clan does to it's captives?

You did, and it wasn't pretty.

What do? Hints: You have knowledge of slaver groups in the wider area and potentially who this buck works for. You also have general knowledge of the areas to the north.
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>>25723398
Despite the appearence, these two have arranged to pretend being a slave and slaver to get by easier in a raider/slaver ridden region to minimize confrontations. Copper Bud on the right going as far as to partake in chems to reinforce the impression in front of suspicious slavers. His personal conflict is the risk of becoming the persona he's pretending to be, regretting making his friend Ivory feel like scum to keep up the facade and in times of chem withdrawal his abuse becomes genuine.

Ivory Daze on the left wanes from being treated like a slave, from her own best friend on top of that. But also needing to live with the knowledge that her father murdered Copper Bud's father and wondering if the master-slave is Copper projecting his genuine resentment. Playing the role of a slave has her question her worth in the relationship, despite her supposed status allowing her to go unseen in many places and serving as the culprit nopony suspects to be behind.

I unno, I guess the master/slave premise appeals to /foe/'s slavery fascination.
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>>25722900
Actually, I've had a bit more time to think about this. If I could borrow a bit of your time, I was wondering what you thought of the rest of things? Of the story to that point? This chapter, as much as anything else, was the proof-of-concept of things being introduced to the story. A gentle introduction to the concept of the paralogues, a tool I was intending to use when presenting things from Snap's perspective became either difficult, or simply more entertaining - I thought - from other perspectives, while giving them a chance to develop themselves outside of Snap's bias. I like to think I've been open about welcoming critique, and I suppose... it does hurt a bit, feeling like instead of testing a boundary, I stepped straight over it without realizing.

Judging by >>25723333 and >>25723214 there have been opinions not unlike yours floating around.

This chapter was an oddity, and I absolutely did struggle to write it. Crafter is not... how I think, I suppose. That isn't to say Snap is a self insert, but our views on things line up a lot more naturally. The way things are described, narrated, even sentence structure, I attempted to recreate. So yes, it would sound like a different narrator, and was intended as such. This is the first I've heard of that being a negative experience, to be honest. To sort of blend responses, >>25723333 did you feel it was jarring compared to Snap's narrative voice, or compared to what your impressions of him as a character? I would very much like to know, as it informs things to work on quite heavily.
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>>25723618
Is there any upturn in their journey? I don't see much appeal in two characters suffering under constant hardship without small victories. Murky for example, for all his troubles and hardships achieves the occasional small comforts with appealed to the readers.

Otherwise, in layman's terms. Solid idea, but there's the risk of too much angst.
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>>25723618
>slavery fascination
Eh, Slavers are more of a medium in which to explore the concepts of power/control over others.

Also bondage and BDSM = best fetish.
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>>25723672
Subject to change, but several upturns you refer to comprise of Ivory and Copper managing to rescue several of their friends and family from slavery over time, Ivory inadvertently forming and becoming the leader of rebel slaves akin to The Temple of the Union, Copper persuading ponies to abandon their profession and become legitimate businesses.

But this scene would've been the first turning point in their journey, where Ivory comes across a ghoul who turns out to her ghoulified ancestor, relating of better times over pre-war photos.
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>>25695662
Oh hey, I found something:
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“How long was I out?” I asked, aghast.
“Long enough to get some much needed sleep,” Velvet soothed. “I rested my eyes a little myself.”
We were in a short maintenance tunnel. On one end, a door led to even more maintenance tunnels that snaked all under Fetlock. On the other, three steps led up to the massive door of Stable Twenty-Nine. Calamity was standing on three hooves (his crippled foreleg lifted) and staring at the control mechanism.
“Well, this was a bust,” he proclaimed. It looked like Stable Twenty-Nine had never opened. And without an override password, it was unlikely that we would be getting in. Still, I went to work at it. My mind still felt sluggish, and I considered munching a Mint-al (even the non-Party flavor would help), but I didn’t want Velvet Remedy or Calamity to think I needed them. I didn’t. They just made me a better me.
After invading the control system and thoroughly probing it, I found something interesting. “I… think I’ve found a backdoor.”
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So they never did open the door, canonically.
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>>25723671
The narration being different is fine, my "it seems like another fic" is not a negative thing. But I dunno, Crafter himself feels like a different character from what we have seen before. Maybe I should go back to check his first introduction and check how he acted.
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>>25723068
Opening chapters and premise, I would say is more accurate. Unless it's tragically flawed mechanically, I'll give a fic at least ten thousand words to get a hook into me.

I'm of the opinion that Pink Eyes got more done in 100k than Murky has in 900k, so it's not chapter number or length as a hard and fast rule.

I would say that the pre-titlecard scenes do need to be well done.
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>>25723671
If I may intrude on this, I had some thoughts on why it went, well, wrong as it were.

In the rest of the fic, you didn't jump into and highlight the actual horror moments, Nosedive's death I wager everybody has forgotten it was a three pny team, the Red Eye mare laying next to her lover, the stable mare Now confirmed to be crafter's love. GG there Snaproll, all of those you avoided showing the horror. Not in the effects or outcome, but more like the old staple of showing the shadows of a murder, a scream, and then a splatter of blood.

Where as for here, its well, oh hey horrible Scyfy channel movie scene time
https://youtu.be/FhpV_ARBCtA?t=2m5s

Yeah, that's about how it went in terms of tone and prose, presentation to the rest of Frozen Skies.
You had a very large disconnect, and with regards to the presented behavior of the Judicator's and raiders, it was rather shocking and sudden in shift.
Really, it feels like you need to redo it, and well tone down the dark derpiness and edge.
Particularly as the raiders just kind of feel like something of the sort meme nymph would write for the darkness in his soul.
Perhaps tone them down, have it be more horrifying in that they use brutal horrible capture methods to get live playthings, as opposed to just "Ooh we stole stuff from a Halloween super store and weaponized it, now we're going to kill you!"

I mean a rather good metaplot would have been to leave it from there, a chance for Crafter to rescue them, some act of defiance on Crafter's part makes him decide he has, say a year, to find and best the raider king to save them.

It was lacking in any real stand out, either horrors of the wasteland, its indifference, or a chance to save them. You basically wrote to no points that stand out in it, leading to it just falling flat of any enduring emotion.
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>>25724270
I disagree on almost all the points you brought up.

I like the raiders in FS. There are all sorts of raiders in FoE, and FS pulls off the scary, intimidating, fucked up kind very well, I think. They're edgy, but don't act like that's always a bad thing. A little bit of edge can be good as long as it isn't over the top and retarded, it makes them into enemies that you end up liking because they're so evil. Like Emperor Sidious.

>I mean a rather good metaplot would have been to leave it from there, a chance for Crafter to rescue them, some act of defiance on Crafter's part makes him decide he has, say a year, to find and best the raider king to save them.

Sounds terrible, anon.

>falling flat of any enduring emotion
I especially disagree with this. The one thing that this chapter accomplished was add more emotion to previous scenes. Snap Roll failing to save Crafter's crush in the raider bunker, Crafter awkwardly shutting down Snap and Tailwind's advances, and it further reinforced the stories core theme of loss.

Still, I think the, uh, likeableness shutup it's a word of this chapter comes down to preference. If you read for emotional stimulus, it's a decent read, but if you read for plot and story, this chapter is probably mostly filler unless details in it become important later on.
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>>25724348
I was spitballing something else. Something that to push loss would have had Snaproll unknowingly destroy.

Showing that where we had come to terms, you can't save everyone, here Crafter may never know that his love died inadvertently at the ministrations of the mare he now travels with.
As is, how does he react to this knowledge, if he might ever find out.


And yeah pretty much the last point.
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>>25723618
>>25723340
Poor sad crystal dolphin pone.
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HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS I THINK THE THREAD JUST DISCUSSED A STORY
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>>25724370
my feet are cold
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>>25724370
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>>25724370
Sheesh! Don't they know this is the FOEverse fetish general?
Shameless!
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>>25723541
Help him take the collars off the other ones. He goes last. They try anything, they get shot.
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>>25724370
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>>25724370
I'm sorry, I'll stop.
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>>25724591
Man if you're hurting for screws I dunno what to tell you. Copper and oil are the ones I'm always running out of, and it doesn't help that most things that contain them are fucking heavy as shit.
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Hey guys! Map person. After learning a lot of timelines and such, I'm reading through it again and being very, very critical with everything. That's why you haven't heard much from me. I do have a question that I wonder if anybody knows though.

In Ch 18 of FoE, it says this:
"With the exceptional visual clarity provided by Party-Time Mint-als, I was able to make out a logo on the roof of the building as we approached it: a filled-in black omega symbol with a white earth pony seeming to levitate a package on her back."

Is that a logo for something that Kkat specifies? Or is it just some exposition that's thrown out and never really plays a huge role? I can't seem to remember if there's a company with that logo or not.

If it's not preexisting, I might call it "Omega Deliveries".
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I started hoarding bones from raider and supermutant camps for cutting fluid. and copper, yeah that one's a bit of a doozy to get without resorting to shipments or buying industrial magnets.
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>>25724685
meant as a reply to >>25724658
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>>25724370
Yeah it's actually a little surprising, lol.

I hope someone can respond to >>25723541 before the thread dies though. We're really close to wrapping it all up.
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>>25724684
I have no idea, anon.
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>>25724658
I think it just depends on what you're doing most of. If you're settlement-building then yeah, copper and oil are going to run out fast, but screws are the killer if you're only using your resources on weapons.
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>>25724658
Eh, not much into settlement building yet so I have both of those in abundance. as in 1000+ of each in both Sactuary and Castle and I don't have the Local Leader perks to connect them yet Still pick up every bit of copper and oil I find for later use.

Having the supplies for constant gun modding ends up being the biggest hassle for me.
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>>25723541
Find out more who he works for.
A collar but not being chained is a wee bit odd.

Optionally, he has 4 knees, we have many bullets and healing potion. Can always get the info out the easy way.
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>>25724718
>>25724731
I'm mostly modding guns and power armor, though. I did start hoarding ceramic, adhesive and aluminum fairly early in preparation for all of that. Vegetable starch is a fucking lifesaver.
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>>25724591
Surprisingly, with all the floor tiles I set up, I find myself in short supply of wood than any other component.

How's about making fun of the fact you're incapable of scrapping that car or pile of cement blocks that's right outside your settlement radius?
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>>25724731
Protip, some areas respawn both enemies AND misc components after an ingame week. It's like those raiders and super mutants were nice enough to replace and resupply every desk fan, and coffee mug you wiped from the buildings.
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>>25724764
>Vegetable starch is a fucking lifesaver.
That it is.

>>25724803
Yeah, I found that out the hard way when I tried to use the Ironworks place for a fast travel shortcut after clearing it out much earlier.

Ended up in the middle of 6 flamers and a million molotovs.
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>>25724828
Put some missile turrets at the slog, they'll support you versus the forged.
Optionally, asbestos liner on your chest piece, immune to ignition.


Hey Relentless, not sure if you ever got to see this.
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Maybe different ones later.
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>>25724889
Wonderful
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>>25724889
Rad vector, tofu. But when are you gonna give us a rad chapter?
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>>25724943
I really kinda need to finish by the end of the month, but we all know how my loaf goes.
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>>25724886
Nymph, I sent you thing.
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>>25724965
I approve of this and find it good, Riddles.
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>>25724965
>>25725046
Awww, look they really do love each other.
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>>25725046
Why does my waifu not have white sclera
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>>25725102
Probably cause I already posted the non-booboo version earlier. >>25707377
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>>25725074
Anon pls, I've simply adapted to Nymphs watered down autism.
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>>25724889
Nice.
But where are the freckles?
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>>25725235
Anon pls you know it's customary that I forget at least one thing before I show people.
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>>25725277
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>>25725277
danke
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>>25725289
It's true, I do.
>>25725296
keine problem
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>>25725102
Tofu gave all his thick white paint to Ham.
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Waiting on new thread to start request stream
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>>25725407
o boi
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>>25725446
>inb4 he has to draw Nosedive yelling at Belmor that he isn't a pretty birdie, and thus shouldn't be dead.
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Yup i think this way of animating will be much better for me
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>>25725474
>implying Nosedive isn't pretty
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>>25725505
We'll never know anon on account of him being dead and buried.
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>>25725581
Anon pls, you don't bury birdies.

You burn them so their ashes can return to the sky.
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>>25725602
But the Enclave didn't want him back, much less the pilots.
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>>25725407
Link to stream (when it starts)?
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>>25725723
I haven't even started, been waiting for new thread

Holy shit, it's taking forever!
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>>25725744
I'm waiting for page 8 as usual.
Oh to hell with it,
'ere ya go!

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