Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 2nd Season

>>15057164
Remember that G-Remo is better than IBO

>>15057169
IBO toys sold better though

>>15057169
shitty taste anon

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Limp

>>15057169
don't forget to eat your own cum while thinking of tomino

>>15057177
So why don't they put a AV extension cord on the Barbatos and have Hush carry around a big roll of it?

>>15057177
With an extra bag of sweet potatoes.

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>Hail the worst Char's clone
Banzai! Banzai! Banzai!

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>>15057182
this has been asked since the start of s1
i'm assuming it was because losing an arm wasn't too extreme a disability before and now barbie is fubar

>>15057185

>Neo Roanoke
>Chronicle Asher
>Iron Mask Carozzo
>Zeheart Galette

N O P E

>>15057191
>this has been asked since the start of s1
i think you mean s2?
Mika's arm wasn't limp until the end of ep 25, and Hush didn't show up until ep 26.

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>>15057207
yeah, that

>>15057201
You forgot Mr Bushido, Zechs and Chocochar

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Mika just do like ein ffs

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NOOOO fucking dammit WHYYYYYY this is not fair.

>>15057201
All of those people were shown to be pretty capable, though. Neo was The Hawk Of Endymion, Chronicle was pretty skilled and an okay guy iirc. Slightly silly mask, though. Iron Mask had a shitty "butthurt because my wife left me" origin and his MA was a flower, but he could Force Choke people and doesn't afraid of snipers because his mask is fucking awesome. Zeahart was an okay guy in the movie but still went full retard in the show, but he was still shown to be a highly capable pilot and was even given his own Gundam (fairly rare for a Char). Not a bad mask, but not really a good mask either. But even so, Vidar was shown to be a great guy before being betrayed, he's shown to have excellent fighting skills both before and after putting the mask on, has an absolutely BEAST Gundam, and a cool no-nonsense helmet.

Luin Lee, on the other hand, was a mildly simmering bucket of fail with a massive inferiority complex, a worse mission record than Fa "I've never landed a mobile suit in my life" Yuiry, and a butterfly strapped to his face.

Will fukuda save gundam?

>>15057229
Don't you mean ruin

>>15057233
cross ange beat G-Reco though.

>>15057235
What didn't beat g-reco

>>15057225

And Vidar has literally

Stood
and watched
his MS
for more than half a season
so far

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>>15057229
>Fukuda
>saving Gundam

>>15057239
He had one fight scene.

Also patience is a virtue.

>>15057235
>>15057237
Cross Ange and Aldnoah both sold less than Record.

>>15057246
>patience is a virtue.
and Virtue is a Gundam.

>>15057246

>Patience is a virtue

Not in a fucking 24 episode anime. In a 24 episode anime, PACING is a virtue, and IBO got nothing of it. The show is literally dragging its feet by repeating itself with stuff we already knew.
about two episodes ago
>Yo leader of Teiwaz is pretty pissy about you going king of mars brah
>I'm pretty pissed about Orga going king of mars
>but I trust you for now
>but don't fuck up

and this sunday
>Yo leader of Teiwaz is pretty pissy about you going king of mars brah
>I'm pretty pissed about Orga going king of mars
>but I trust you for now
>but don't fuck up

It's literally the same thing repeated twice. This shit is worse than recap episodes.

>>15057239
To be fair it's a sexy MS

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>>15057252
this, if I was gali-gali I would just stay in the hangar and look ar Vidar all day too.

>>15057251
it was an end of cour episode before new years', they tried to repeat all the ongoing plot points to generate expectations

>>15057250
>-"Patience is a virtue"
>-"No, it's a Gundam"
Setsuna F. Seiei.

>>15057251
IBO is written by the kind of people that don't understand why shows skip over background details and lore to focus on the story and make the best use of their airtime.

>>15057250
What if it was a Mobile Armor?

>>15057242
it's Fukada

>>15057251
This disturbs me too. Although the S2 was, for now, better than the S1, is still badly handled. The Story could be summed up better, but is extended with a lot of dead time.

>>15057187
>They call me cuban Pete. I'm the king of the rumba beat

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>>15057201
Also Mask.

Mask was such a whiny bitch. And he looked like a shoujo villian.

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Baelgillis

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Shots fired

>>15056920
>Maybe the trick here to heal Mika is simply to repair Barbatos with him connected.
>We escaflowne now

>>15057321
I'd laugh if they used that idea.

>>15057320

You ready for Tekkadan to curbstomp Teiwaz as well?

The only conceivable reason we're finally seeing Turbines who aren't Azee or Lafter flying mobile suits is probably to see them die messily to Barbatos as is.

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>>15057320
I like this.
Orga was getting away with a lot of independent decision making for a guy that's allegedly part of a much bigger criminal organization.

It's good that he finally got a scolding.

>>15057171
nice citation

>>15057229
At this point anyone can save gundam

>>15057321
That...might work.
Despite being connected to Barbatos, Mika's hand went limp again during the battle, right after Barbatos's hand was damaged.
We know the AV system directly connects the MS motor control to the pilot's central nervous system. If it has failsafes to protect the pilot from overload when the MS runs too high (the cut-out when Akihiro and Mikazuki got too close to Hashmal) maybe it also has failsafes to keep the pilot from feeling the damage the MS takes.
The status of Barbatos's arm changes, the status of Mika's arm changes. If the MS is repaired while he's not hooked to it, then his motor function is working while connected to Barbatos because Barbatos is actively sending a "fully operational" status but when he's disconnected again the failsafe in his own AV system is still in place.

Whether they do this or just build a dummy-AV backpack for Mika to wear while outside Barbatos, they need to get that pompadour kid in on it. He hasn't really served much purpose so far aside from noticing the limiter situation with the Gundams, so this might be why he's in the story.

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>>15057259

I probably couldn't resist either.

>>15057331
that's retarded, Turbines are not going to fight Tekkadan
they're likely going to fight some faction brought together by that pimp guy

after that there probably will be come conspiracy where Teiwaz goes against Tekkadan thus forcing Naze to sudoku, but even then this show is not going to have tekkadan directly fight the old allies they were personally friendly with
and all this is going to take a while, so barbie will have been upgraded with ma parts up his ass by then

>>15057347
>but even then this show is not going to have tekkadan directly fight the old allies they were personally friendly with

Well, while I'm hoping this doesn't happen, to say that some of the events that have transpired are retarded is a colossal understatement.

I wouldn't put it past the writers.

>>15057347
Hard to say.
Pimpdaddy and Iok are about to do something stupid. We don't know what they're going to do, but you can bet it will be stupid because IOK.

Best bet is an attack on Macgillis which will result in Tekkadan flattening some Teiwaz. Old man might say this is betrayal on Orga's part and tell Naze that he has to handle Tekkadan. Naze did already have to swear to forfeit his life if Tekkadan did anything to embarrass Teiwaz.

Naze tells Azee and Lafter to sabotage some shit, but Lafter fucks up the plan because AKIHIRO or Merribit fucks up the plan because CHILDREN and Tekkadan stomps the Turbine faction. I doubt Orga would give the order to kill Naze, but McMurder might have him killed for failing to take out Tekkadan (especially if he finds out Lafter betrayed Turbines for Akihiro or Merribit pulled a Fumitan).

>>15057382
>S2 will end on 2/4
source please?

>>15057394
Either he's guessing that it's going to get cut to 42 episodes, or he means 2nd of April.

>>15057251
Was in reference to Vidar biding his time as in patience is a good character trait, however it doesn't make a show interesting.

Show is redundant and slow.

>>15057391
pimpdaddy's ms was all but announced, so he's likely going to get barbie'd in a few episodes

i think he will actually coup mcspurdo and blame naze/tekkadan for his death, resulting in Tekkadan and Turbines going against pimpdady/Teiwaz which will make tekkadan even stronger after Naze becomes the new mcspurdo

>>15057391
Mika would probably kill Naze. He already put down one Crank "I must die for my honor" Zent and he doesn't have the closeness to Naze that Orga does. Plus he's already gone against Orga's orders once because "shortest route".

Meanwhile I'm wondering what happened to the Turbines' babies. That ship was crawling with kids when they first met - did they get offloaded to Tekkadan's schools or what?

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>>15057346
>demon reborn into a Nordic god of vengeance
I couldn't resist it either

Ep 39 will only air on 1/15(2 week break)

S2 will end on 4/2

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Cry 4 me Iok-sama

>>15057452
>on 4/2
Good cause I also need a break

>>15057434
Naze's offspring usually gets shipped to schools
they only have a couple of them on board

>>15057452
>Ep 39 will only air on 1/15(2 week break)
Are they giving us new opening theme on that episode?

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Is Bael supposed to be grey or a shade of purple?

>>15057527
Was hoping it would be red

Dark-blueish-gray would be cool too i guess

>>15057495
Pretty sure we are getting a new one!
>>15057537
She is a big girl

>>15057527
i thought that was Vidar

So what happens if they disconnect the pilot from the AV while he's passed out. Throughout the series they have said "WE CAN'T REMOVE HIM WHILE HE'S UNCONSCIOUS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'LL HAPPEN"

I bet they'll end up removing Mikazuki from the AV towards the end while he's knocked out and his consciousness will be absorbed by Barbatos.

>>15057546

who didn't?

>>15057537
>you are now imagining Atra shaking Mika's hips back and forth to give Kudelia a baby

>>15057527
Was this supposed to imply that McGillis has the Bael stashed in his basement or something?

>>15057451
>Vidar

if it were not for the fact that Ein brain is probably in there, I am almost inclined to think that Vidar will become a good one towards the end and survive the show, because the Nordic legend says that after defeat Fenrir, he's also one of the few gods to survive the Ragnarok and to start a new era.

Who knows, maybe it will be Gaelio the one that will reform Gjallarhorn in the right way, stealing this dream from Choco Char.

>>15057451
I must confess that I like Lupus a little more, but Vidar is still magnificent. These two (with Astharot too) are the most beautiful Gundams I've seen recently.

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>That scene where McGillis' manservant informs him about the whereabouts of GaliGali and Kimaris.
Seriously? He doesn't know it already? He never bothered to check vital shit like that before?

Why is Orga acting like a subservient dog to the Space Mafia? He doesn't need them, he already has Mcgillis.

Orga could tell Mika to genocide Teiwaz at anytime and none of them could stop him.

>>15057664
Even orga knows not to trust the evil blonde plotter one hundred percent, and something something we waz family and brother.

>>15057663
No this was a vehicle to spoonfeed the audience what hapened. Mcgilis is just confirming what he knows is supposed to be the official record.

>>15057664
I wouldn't be so sure. Teiwaz has what, a dozen dons who each presumably control small armies. Not even Mika could beat those numbers.

Well, probably because Naze would not like this. He has already made clear that if he has to take sides, he would choose the Mafia.

>>15057672
It bothers me to see him acting like a cuck to the Oyaji and Aniki, when the space mafia haven't been shown to have any real goals or ideals.

I want Orga to go full scorched earth to become the King of Mars.

Naze will die in the next eps

>>15057674
We don't know if they all have ships and MS.

>>15057682
Orga doesn't have any real goals or ideals.

>>15057688
Orga wants to create a world where Tekkadan doesn't have to fight or be hungry anymore.

>>15057664
Tekkadan droping Teiwaz would turn Teiwaz against Tekkadan
this new conflict might make McGills decide they're not worth it anymore and drop them like a hot potato, maybe allying himself with Teiwaz

>>15057689
They're not hungry and being king of mars would put him in more conflict.

>>15057689
that's the theory, but in practice "king of mars" doesnt sound like a calm and peaceful job, he'd still need an army no enforce his rule, he'd still have to have tekkadan fight

this is what naze was talking about, orga doesn't really know where the fuck he's going and is just going with the flow

>>15057652
Will Astaroth ever appear?
How are the LNs for it?

>>15057696
it's from a manga

>>15057688
He actually have it, but it's an utopian dream that will not be reality in any case. A part of him is doing all of this because he does not want to disappoint Mika.

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can't say I like where they're taking Ioks character. seems stupid

If Atra doesn't win the Mikabowl I will be mad.

>>15057722

>Seems stupid

Iok -is- stupid.

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>>15057725
Sorry anon but Atra is cukcing herlsef. You may want her to win but she doesn't want to. And in all honesty fuck Atra. She stopped being good when she got her harem idea.

>>15057700
Oh nice, is it translated?
Is it good?
>>15057741
>prepping the bull.jpg

We get sexy harem next ep

>>15057722
This is practically an anti Death Flag.

>>15057741
Pretty much. Her notion seems to be that left to theor own devices Mika might pick Kudelia and friendzone Atra. So if she pushes the harem idea she can at least get to share him. But it's honestly needless because Mika's shown zero interest in Kudelia. The only thing even in the category of affection he's shown was a one-off kiss, which he only did because Naze was talking about it. Thereafter he just stonewalled her.

> b-but, muh 'kudelia sugoi'
Isn't romantic interest. He showed he was impressed when she manipulated one of their sponsors to get them out of a massacre at the hands of Arianrhod. And he thinks she's a decent banker. Otherwise he hasn't really paid her much heed, whereas he's been shown wistfully sniffing the bracelet Atra gave him, and told her it saved his arm when there's no physical reason it would have done so.

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>>15057729
no its childish. Rustal wouldn't back him up in the meeting because they didn't have enough evidence to convict McGillis so he cries like a 5 year old and wants to call the mafia, someone who he should as his men told him, to deal with the problem he can't figure out how to do legally.

Iok needs a Brightslap stat otherwise shit ton of people are going to get killed. he already caused problems on Mars by getting people killed and he's clearly emotional. Not someone you want running around considering he is a powerful member of gjallahorn
>>15057748
and? seems like a weak way to get the plot rolling. "Iok did it." then it snowballs out of control

>>15057317

His hair is the goddamn shit though

that guy could model for loreal, cause his hair is worth it

>>15057347

From what we've seen Tekkadan has enough military power to legitimately conquer Mars if Gjallarhorn doesn't interfere.

Teiwaz trying to take them on will just be another debacle where the "bad guys" of the arc are too weak to seem like a legitimate threat and just end up looking like silly fools.

But you bet everyone is going to pretend that Teiwaz is really dangerous and that Tekkadan are the underdogs.

>>15057753
That's exactly the problem with Gjallarhorn. Entitled nobles getting passed up the dynastic chain into positions of power even if they have little intelligence or common sense. Carta was the heir to her family, Gaelio to his, and they were both woefully naive. Iok just fits right into that bunch as a family head who has no business heading anything.

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>>15057752
Yeah. I doubt Kudelia will still be friends with Atra now that she knows she is crazy. Mika will most likely die in the end so who knows. Maybe Atra gets pregnant before that.

>>15057602
Does Mika's penis even work anymore?

>>15057770
Gaelio was competent. You can't expect your best childhood friend to just murder you.

>>15057705
>he does not want to disappoint Mika.
Pretty much. He had a lot of drive before he was being controlled, but now that reality is setting in he's starting to realize that "that place" he told Mika about doesn't exit. He's put himself in a very tight spot.

>>15057773
When hes attached to the gundam his penis will work

>>15057774

It happened to me once. It sucked.

>>15057783
>sex in the cockpit
Always a good fetish.

>>15057725
Mika is dead meat, maybe "magic" can save him in the end, if anything the only question is who gets the baby and everything points at Kudelia unless she decline the offer

Bael can heal Mika

>>15057790
Mika is going to end up like Ein and being nothing but a meat popsicle trapped inside his Gundam.
He and Barbatos will become one.

Is it possible that Astaroth is not the only Gundam equipped with Gamma-Nanolaminate Sword?

>>15057796
Kind of expecting something like this

I wonder if there are any Gundam Vegetables that have been kept alive since the calamity war?
Barbatos originally didnt even have a cock pit in it, maybe the cockpit was removed with the pilot in it so they could keep it alive?

Does Gaelio hate Tekkadan or only muh macky?

>>15057800
Or Barbatos is the name of the pilot whose entire mind was absorbed into the Gundam. He'll have to scoot over and make room for Mika in there.

>>15057803
He might hold contempt for them but Gali recognizes that Tekadan were always a part of Chocos plan.
In this way i could see him try to get Tekadan to join him instead of trying to fight them. In a way they are kids who are being used just like Ein.

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>>15057803
He fucking hates Macky, but judging at Rustal comment Tekkadan also makes his blood boils

>>15057812
>>15057817
Fully agree with the first post, Vidar may not like them but I'm sure he's vengeance is mostly with Mcgillis, in the end the hobos were simply Mcgillis paws

>>15057810
>The Gundams bear the name of the ones that lost their mind and were absorbed by the machine

Guess that explains "Graze Ein"

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>>15057863
she a cute

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>>15057863
>>15057868

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>>15057868
>>15057863
What is wrong with you?

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Her pouting expression is pretty cute.

>>15057868
she has yamazin tits

>>15057817
The problem is not Gaelio, but Ein... if indeed there is his mind in Gundam . Both want their revenge.

>>15057889
Ein needs to learn from Juli and say no to avenging.

How are there people that dislike the soundtrack?
It's the only good thing about IBO.

>>15057894
>learn from Juli and say no to avenging.

but.. they are literally reborn as god of vengeance.

Atra needs to die for Mika's character development. There's no happy ending for her

>>15057898
>Anime Suki believes this

>>15057898
err... Apart from the flamenco of s1, I confess that until now no track has stayed in mind. Can you tell me which tracks are the best for you?

>>15057899
yeh but it's one thing to take revenge on wha Chocoman did to them, another to avenge some dude that got killed in a duel and would hate to be avenged.

>>15057910
download and listen to it.
There are a lot of good tracks. I'd say at times it's on par with Unicorn.

>>15057799
Yes
I want to see what other weapons were prevalent during the calamity war.

>>15057874
WOW
She is so hot!!!!!

>>15057910
"Sandy Desert", "Survive the Battle", and "Vulnerable Surface" are all pretty good battle themes in my opinion, and Live With Them plus the Teiwaz accordion theme are pretty good.

The problem is that a lot of the others are slight (not so great) variations on the same basic themes.

"Barren Land" reminds me of Armored Core, 2 specifically.
I'll never forget the way it starts playing in episode 1 over the title and Barbatos in the CGS hangar.

>>15057239
time well spent

>>15057164
Why don't they just take Mika to a doctor? Hell Candy Man owes them

>>15057900
Her happy end is a harem end though

>>15057652
There is nothing wrong with that I made my first kit which was lupus and it is looking pretty damn fine.

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I miss her

>>15058038
The only cure for that much limp dick is half a body of half metal

Mika would be 1/4 metal

>>15058074
>her

Does that mean that the Helmwige is a tranny or extremely butch?

>>15058097
Just wait until he loses the other arm. Then, cut under the neck and add a full robot body.

>>15057527
Looks white to me.

>>15058104
So did Flauros and we all know how that ended

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>>15058098
she's just as beautiful

>>15058111
McGillis isn't Shino.
However perphas Bael will be Blue and Yellow ?

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>>15057910
Here are discs 1 and 2. Password to unzip is: senseiow
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hyubqte81dxc5e8/OW-MBSTIBORPHOSTD01.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/file/74bbveekaixna29/OW-MBSTIBORPHOSTD02+%281%29.zip

Definitely worth downloading, the OST is pretty sophisticated. I'm loving a lot of tracks that completely flew past my radar when they played during the actual show (which is something that tends to happen with OSTs). Here are some of the good ones:

Aspiration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfQCwTL3DD0

My Own Way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX4ft7pZCRY

Defenders of the Wild:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTjHJuXRm4w

Surface of the Iron-Blooded Orphans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddwWQsGLrDQ

Also check out what >>15057988 recommended as well. "Live With Them" might be my favorite track of them all, but I can't find it on youtube, nor do I remember which episode it played.

>>15057767
>conquer Mars
That's not the plan at all. The way Macky tells it, he's going to expose corruption in the legitimate government, and if Tekkadan helps him get to the top of that chain, Macky will reward Orga by making him the legitimate legal head of government.

Of course that does kinda go against the "independence from mars" if Gjallarhorn is still appointing an unelected official to rule the planet. Orga isn't a conquerer, he sees Tekkadan being the official military/law enforcement agency as the safe and comparatively low-risk and respectable social station.

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>>15058133
Do you know what theme played when Vidar talked to mcgillis in the begining of episode 37.

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Will having a kid with Atra give Mikazuki another reason to live besides fighting?

>>15058133
Don't know it it's out yet but what is the track from the previews of S2 ?

>>15058152
Smiling Mika is very cute.

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>>15057527

It looks like a museum piece, unpainted and preserved in a glass tank the size of a factory.

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>>15058171
He really is

>>15058148
Can't find it. Might have to wait for the season 2 OST or something. Or it's hidden in the middle of some other track and I'd have to listen through the entire OST to find it, although I doubt it.

>>15058154
Don't think it's on this OST.

>>15058181
Ah okay, but still thanks for trying though

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>>15058171
>>15058177
He is cute no matter what's he is doing

>>15058133
Wow thank based anon.

>>15058145

>the plan

Actually we have no idea what the plan is. For all its talking (and talking and talking), they've somehow managed to omit the parts where they actually make plans or explain what they are going to do (this is by the way very impressive).

Either way, Tekkadan has so many mobile suits at this points that they literally could conquer Mars through military force if Gjallarhorn doesn't intervene. How do I know this? Because Tekkadan is like the only people who got a MS army on Mars if you exclude tje Gjallarhorn mars division (which is presumably pretty underfunded at this point and reliant on Earth reinforcements).

Tekkadan could shitstomp Mars and its puny mobile worker armies if they wanted to

>>15057164
This episode cemented my perception of Mika as a reverse Setsuna.
Someone completely dedicated to the cause with no sense of personal will other than to pursue the goals of the organization.

>>15058238
>For all its talking (and talking and talking), they've somehow managed to omit the parts where they actually make plans or explain what they are going to do (this is by the way very impressive).

This is what drives me fucking crazy about this show. So many great potential plot points or character moments are tossed aside in favor of some other tangential story arc that contributes little to nothing. IBO squanders so much, it hurts.

How's Akihiko's condition currently?

>>15058300
Getting prepped by Naze.

>>15058278
I wish we got more actual insight into Mika's character. I want to know if he has no self worth and thinks fighting is all he's good for or if he's just fucking crazy. It would also help to know how Orga saved his life and how shitty his life was before he met Orga. It would lend some weight to his blind loyalty.

>>15057239

Vidar X Vidar OTP

IBO characters are still fucking garbage.

>>15058278
More than anything else ... at this point of the show, it seems clear that Mika has no development planned.

>>15058101
They'd probably put him in an Ein fish tank atleast.

>>15058152
Then he will just be securing a safe place for Martian children

>>15058238
>Actually we have no idea what the plan is. For all its talking (and talking and talking), they've somehow managed to omit the parts where they actually make plans or explain what they are going to do
that's because Chocoman is not a protagonist and Orga has no fucking clue what he's doing and is just going with the flow without a real plan other than follow McGills -> become kang -> ??? -> don't need to fight anymore

>>15058326
well yeah. He wouldn't be a reverse Setsuna if he got character development.
We haven't even gotten a single segment with him alone just thinking about things.

>>15058342
>don't need to fight anymore

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...I can understand that Orga is not realizing that it's a fucking nonsense, but Kudelia? Things that make you reconsider Relena role.

>>15058349

There have been tiny little moments like Mika's gesture with the bracelet at the start of the show, but I think the only scene in which we've really gotten a proper insight into how he thinks apart from him lecturing Kudelia on politics for some reason was when he confronted Orga after Biscuit's death, and after that we've got almost nothing.

>>15057898
I quite like Gaelio's theme, Different Definition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivuSPzcWEZM

>>15058133
>I'm loving a lot of tracks that completely flew past my radar when they played during the actual show
I felt this was true with the above track more than anything for me. Honestly, it makes me sad that so much potential won't be reused exactly, because not just any series gets a rewrite.

>>15058351
i think Orga realizes becoming the fucking king of mars will not give them a peaceful life, but feels forced to stay the course in part due to the murder midget and sunken cost fallacy.

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>>15058380
This theme just has a "flow of battle" feeling to it, but triumphantly so. It doesn't feel too intense, as though a victory or a loss is sure. It's just brimming with confidence and pride at making the best possible move at each turn, taking every fault and blow with grace.

Granted, Gaelio didn't always fight like that, but he sure could.

>>15057527
I thought it was just hidden in the shadows

>>15057527
Is Bael in a tank, or just surrounded by some sort of pool like Tharsis was?

>>15058368
We had something when Takaki leaves, but he remains a secondary character. In fact even Barbatos is clearly secondary. For how the show is conceived it seems a kind of neo Aldnoah Zero anime, than then they changed by putting a Gundam into it at the last moment
Instead of Barbatos there could be any regular Tekkadan grunt that Mika use and destroys regularly in battle.

>>15058391
As an addition, I know Vidar's not an IBO Gundam anymore by technicality, but it's just easier to have this image saved under this name.

Even Orga himself isn't sure about this whole King of Mars business, he was even getting second thoughts about it in last week's episode, but Mika is forcing him go all in even if Mika has to die along the way.

>>15058407
He would lose Teiwaz and McGillis if backed down as well.

>>15058407
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Mika dies, Orga becomes king, and Orga betrays Tekkadan in the end to make way for a full on Calamity War 2 Movie/OVA series/IBO Destiny

>>15058415

>Orga betrays the very people he wants to lead to a better life

Uh.

>>15058420
>Naze outright hinting that Orga's becoming more concerned about the ride and the power than the people he wants to lead to a better life

Uh.

>> 15058380
It's good, very good. But god ... I do not even remember where it was used (Gaelio fights, of course).

I remember very well, even today, the first sortie of 00 or the Wing arrival with Boy That Killed Adolescence. I also remember Seed and Age for their tracks. Fuck this show. I think it's also the fault of the director who does not use this music with appropriate scenes.

>>15058422

Insinuating that Orga's becoming a lackey of Gjallarhorn doesn't mean that him betraying his comrades when all he's ever done is go on and on about how they're 'family' and they'll 'find a place to belong' wouldn't be immensely retarded even for this show.

>>15058424

The only place I remember it being used was when Gaelio rescued Carta just before she died.

Atra demanding Kudelia to fuck Mika completely took me out of the scene. Was that really necessary?

>>15058427
It looks more like a music to use during a Gundam lunching or a winning counter-attack, not really a failed rescue.

How big of a clusterfuck are the last episodes of IBO going to be when they realize they're spent 38 episodes doing nothing?

>>15058407
I don't see Orga betraying Tekkedan.

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>>15057262
One thing IBO has me curious about is interaction between Setsuna and Mika if they appear in a SRW game together, considering the shared child soldier history and all.

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>>15058399
>not a Gundam

>>15058439
Aldnoah Zero tier.

>>15058461
Fail, It was for him >>15058444

>>15058452
if wonder how jealous setsuna would be of mika's AV system.

>>15058444
IBO:Destiny

>>15058426
I'd argue its more for all his best laid intentions Orga is just as broken and fucked up and knows really only one thing and that's war. As much as he likes to pretend he's about a higher ideal he's still at the end of the day as Blood thirsty and mad as Mika is.

>>15057910
You must listen to Different Definitions. It's Unicorn level.

>>15058476
>he's still at the end of the day as Blood thirsty and mad as Mika is.

He really isn't.

The discussion the two had in the wake of Biscuit's death probably proved to Orga that Mika's more bloodthirsty and damaged than he can ever hope to be, but I say this only personally because the show's completely forgotten that conversation ever happened.

>>15058424
>It's good, very good. But god ... I do not even remember where it was used
Same here, I really only remember one scene it was used in* and now just listen to it because it's good music for playing games and just because I'm fond of Gaelio.

>I think it's also the fault of the director who does not use this music with appropriate scenes.
I won't say who's to blame, but your actual point does stand, especially in view of* >>15058439

At the very least Gaelio should've had a better fight with Mika in the end if they were going to have music that sounded like he was holding his head high despite Carta's death.

Heck, I would've preferred to see Gaelio be on the verge (after a well-fought struggle) of capturing Mika, only for Grimgerde to come back after having beaten Ein to save him.

Gundam vs Gundam, old machine overshadowed by Gundams vs new machine using "true AV".

Just think about Ein being kept from his revenge by some unknown entity and McGillis then having someone's blood on his hands in a more direct sense. Then Gaileo and Ein, while still holding a grudge towards Tekkadan, would be united in focus on the true mastermind.

>>15058455
Supposedly it's 3-reactor setup disqualifies it technically, even if it's still a Gundam frame. It's a weird, but fascinating way of looking at it.

>>15058480
Ah yeah I'd forgotten about that but still, Orga is still as much of a wild dog as Mika or any of the original Tekkaden are.

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>last frame
>using both arms

confirmed for recovery?

>>15058490
He's plugged in.

So Bellri is a descendant of Mika

>>15058482
"supposedly" whoever told you that is full of shit.
The box says "Gundam Vidar" and that's the only thing that matters.

>>15058452
I could see Setsuna flipping out at Orga, comparing him to Ali

>>15058482
It has a Gundam frame and so, it's a Gundam for IBO setting. The frame is the element that characterizes Gundams in this universe.

>>15058380
The show definitely has an atmospheric flair to it thanks to the music, and you totally get a feel for the more rustic, grittier elements thanks to the acoustic/folk-y tracks. But the music always feels like it's just in the background, and it doesn't really add any "oomph" to specific movements and actions on-screen, which is probably why it comes across as more atmospheric rather than intensely-memorable.

>>15058391
I wished Vidar's armor-grooves glowed with that neon magenta light. I love it's design, but the color scheme is too boring compared to Barbatos' vivid red/yellow/blue contrasted with the white.

>>15058490
Next episode looks like will have pretty good drawing and animation. I wonder why. Its not like there will be fights

>>15058501
>>15058519
No one told me one-on-one. I just remember seeing it be said as possible evidence for one of the new, non-Gundam suits being a Vidar upgrade.

If it's a Gundam because of the frame alone, or if it's more than a Gundam because of 3 reactors then both are fine by me.

>goes to Barnes and Noble
>sees gunpla
>lots of IBO gunpla are not sold
>but Strike Freedom is almost sold out

Hmm....

>>15058527
It just means it's going to be a bunch of stills with people talking

>>15058520
>glowed with that neon magenta light

I thought the same thing. The marks, or signs, on its shoulders seem to have been crafted just for that.

>>15058538
Maybe Strike Freedom has better looking Mechas?
I hate Mechas but enjoy IBO

>>15058490
I can see the final episode

>End of the battle
>Mika's corpse falls out
>Everyone is crying
>Suddenly Barabatos begins talking and moving
>Mika is alive in Barabatos
>Heero self destructs

>>15058452

I will be more curious to see Umon Samon telling how he once took out 6 doms with a single ball at the same age as Mika was.

That said, Mika would be none too impressed with how Setsuna was wowed by propaganda to become a soldier while he doesn't even have the luxury of charismatic adults leading him.

>>15057552
>So what happens if they disconnect the pilot from the AV while he's passed out.
Same thing that always happens in science fiction, (even more) neurological damage.

>>15058537
Look, it's likely that Vidar is nothing more than a Kimaris heavy reconstructed.

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Would Mika make a good father? Hush is literally his child

>>15058538
It's almost like IBO is newer than Destiny so it gets restocked more often.

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Man i feel sort of unfulfilled that Flauros got that debut two weeks ago and now it's background hanger porn once again like Vidar.

>>15058545
Nah, fanboyism for its pilot.

>>15058563
Isn't it because it was still not complete?

>>15058437
Like anything else in the series right now we will probably have to wait to see everyone end game to make sense of their present actions.

>>15058497
dont even joke about this shit
>>15058537
It is a gundam with a Rather Unique System, the third Ahab Reactor has to be part of this system.
>>15058550
Mika will become a ghost in the shell that teaches the next Mika how to use a katana
>>15058555
Black+Light Purple=Light blue
completely pulled that autism out of my ass but Ein+Gali confirmed

>>15057746
Yes it is translated but the story is not good, unless you're into Micheal Bay explosion action.

Also the guy who provides us only copy of this is not in Japan anymore so it will take.sometime before we can have it again.

What is Mika going to do after the war is over?

>>15058695
Either be some sort of half metal monstrosity or use a mobile worker as a wheel chair.

or maybe he will join the Illuminati from Psycho Pass

>>15058695
Tell Orga to start another war, because he'll realize that he can't live without fighting.

>>15058708
>experimenting with the teraforming of Mars
>Cant do anything

I've been goofing around, reading analysis of various MGS games lately. I can't help but feel IBO is the MGS4 of Gundam, abandoning any meaning the franchise had prior and just attempting to give the audience what they want. Doesn't matter how shallow or how much of a betrayal it is, IBO is what a vocal part of the fanbase/otaku/anime fans wanted

>>15058537
If it has the name "Gundam" in the gunpla's box, then it's a Gundam.

>>15058716

What the hell is there to 'betray'?

The mere existence of AUs should make it abundantly clear that Gundam isn't bound by an arbitrary set of messages and ideals.

>>15058545
then why are you on /m/?

>>15058710
I'm surprised more people don't bring up the fact that Mika was working on growing a new staple crop on Mars. Sure it wasn't working, but it shows at least some decent pursuits.

>>15058695
Be a living gundam

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Will he kills Naze?

>>15057259
>blue
>black
>tinge of white
god tier color scheme

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>>15058748
Naze is barely even in this goddamn show.
Why the hell is he still alive?

Same goes for Eugene actually.
Don't get me wrong, I like Eugene but every other character could do what he's doing.

>>15058722
>existence of AUs
that stopped being a thing seventeen years ago, anon.

>>15057849
>>15057810

>Mika's consciousness is absorbed into Barbatos
>Everyone thinks he's dead
>Orga hooks himself up to Barbatos in grief. Finds Mika swimming in there.
>Orga pilots Barbatos into battle with Mika in his mind
>"Tell me who to kill next, Orga."


Pottery

>>15058778

No, fan speculation about Turn A supposedly being the end of every timeline didn't end jack shit, anon.

>>15058782
>fan speculation
The show was made, according to Tomino, specifically to unify Gundam and acknowledge the words done by other directors. As of 1999, all Gundam shows take place in the same universe whether you like it or not. They all use different calendars because they're separated by long spans of time, but it's only one universe.

>Orga, take me there.

Where does Mika want Orga to take him?

>>15058792

>acknowledge the works done by other directors

All one of them, and I may be wrong because it's been a while but I seem to recall the only AU directly referenced being Gundam Wing.

>>15058812
A gay bar

>>15058821
>All one of them
Three.
Wing, G, and X
And you are very wrong. Not only are the blueprints for Fuunsaiki and Nether Gundam shown in the files that the Luziana Militia stole from the Black History Room, but Tomino's setting notes (History Of Turn A book) state that the Moonlight Butterfly is DG Cells.

Also there were several shots from both X in the Black History displays.

>>15058830
For the sake of the argument it wasn't that wrong, because SEED, 00, Age and IBO were made after Turn A.

Trying to unify the gundam universes was a bad idea as it was doomed to failure due to the amount of AU that would continue to be created and setting differences.

>>15058812
Bathroom.

So I don't know if this has been talked about before or not, but is anyone else pissed off by mika? I mean like how kudelia went right to him way back in the beginning when they first met, or more recently when hush was getting violent with atra and mika held him back without even trying? It'd be easier to ignore if he wasn't so bland too, they mention the farm thing every now and then but even when talking about that he's blank and emotionless. Hell kudelia said just this episode he doesn't change even with all this life altering shit happening to him. I know they're portraying him as damaged from his upbringing but I really don't think they're doing a very good job at it. Sorry for the rant but he really gets under my skin

>>15058929
I can't believe how not a lot more people don't see this. Really, you could mistake him for a self-insert since his character has nothing substantial. Defenders would point out little moments, and they would have a point if any of them actually went anywhere notable.

>>15058774
Naze is Tekkadans keeper

Anyone else think for a second that Orga was going to sufficate/strangle/kill Mikazuki as he slept at the end of the episode. . .?

No

Ok

>>15058929
>>15058968
He raised his voice this episode you guys

relatively speaking thats pretty significant

>>15058830
Where are the X-Rounders? Coordinators? Ultimate Coordinators? Innovators? Innovades? Veda? Super Soldiers? Alaya-Vijnana System? Attempting to combine all the Gundams into 1 universe is a fool's errand.

>>15058929
Your'e not the only one, the thread on /a/ talked about him being more emotional, but personally I don't really care about him as a character.

I'm just waiting for Vidar vs McGillis.

I would actually would have liked to see the show without Iok and more focus on Gjallarhorn.

I like Rustal, Julietta and Vidar more than Tekkadan.

The way that Rustal openly disproved of Julietta pushing herself but didn't stop her and then Julietta getting upset with Vidar when he repeated Rustal's doubts was much more interesting.

We got to see a more noble side to Rustal throughout the episode.

Vidar showed that he could tell the way Rustal thought, giving the impression that he was insightful and maturing.

Julietta was getting frustrated from not being the best and not getting her efforts approved of and maybe even a bit of jealousy for Vidar knowing Rustal better than her.

Hell even McGillis and his new fucboi showed better dynamics with having the fucboi unable to follow McGillis line of thought.

It really helped push that McGillis was unconventional and that he was going off the deep end.

The interaction between Orga and Mika was the same thing that has been happening since s1.

>>15058968
Going off of MGS4 analysis, Mikazuki is essentially what some people want out of gundam. They don't care about what he's fighting for or believes in, they just want someone who kicks ass without complaining about having to kill. His actual character is unimportant which leads to his bored monotone even when discussing his dreams. Atra's obsession with him highlights how fans want this non-entity to stick his cock into things despite his age and issues.

>>15059042
>Going off of MGS4 analysis
What?

>>15059046
I was reading some analysis of MGS4 and how it was going after the people that ignored the themes of the series and just wanted to kill people as Snake. Get into some IBO discussion and why people like Mikazuki/Tekkadan, it just kinda fit

>>15059042
I think that description works for IBO as a whole
Despite it's awful pacing and cardboard cut out characters it's gritty and edgy and has flashy "hype" moments so people overlook any flaws, especially since the action is kind of unorthodox for Gundam

>>15059060
Sounds about right, I didn't really care about it that much after it turned its back on the themes of 2.

Ironically, Rising kind of called out the audience on this.

>>15058968
>>15059007
I'm glad I'm not the only one, this is actually my first gundam series and despite all the issues I'm really loving it, I think mainly because I'm a sucker for the whole mercenary type of setting, but damn if I didn't almost drop gundam in general cause of this

>>15059060
And much like with MGS4 the fanbase endlessly complains about it because they don't know what the fuck they even want.

And on that note, can we expect the next Gundam to be cancelled a third of the way through?

>>15059125
Because IBO gives them what they wanted but in a way that makes it feel unsatisfactory.

We wanted a protagonist that had no issues killing, so we get one where that is like 90% of his character. We want our heroes to have a happy ending, so that is all Tekkadan is fighting for. No annoying female lead who talks about peace, Kudelia is put out of focus after season one. Melee combat leads to fights that feel like Mika is an OP Leroy Jenkins.

We're left wondering what we really wanted in the first place. Did we want gundam or did we want something like IBO?

>>15058394
It's definitely being held in some regal, sacred Gjallarhorn location going by those columns.

>>15059155
I wanted something like 00S1 and X, which IBO's setting basically is but with a dose of A/Z.

Its only crimes in my eyes are pacing and lack of payoff.

>>15059075
Wait, Rising Dragon!?

>>15058929
I don't like Mika personally, but I think the whole point of the scene at the end of this week's episode was to illustrate the fact that he has gone way too deep to be able to return to any semblance of a normal life. He says that Kudelia will create a world where they won't have to fight, but fighting is all he is pretty much good for now.

What I see from Mika is not positive character development, but negative. He's going to get more and more unlikable throughout the series. He keeps saying he'll be fine if as long as he has Barbatos. He says he likes it better this way since it makes his life simple (fighting is his only concern). It's like watching someone going through a drug addiction.

That's what I see from his character development.

>>15059286
I mean, I thought this was evident the moment he went all "tell me who to kill" blood knight to Orga after Biscuit's death. There's no good end for Mika; he's a statement on the self-destructive nature of war.

I think what ultimately breaks or sells IBO to me is whether he survives the end in good shape. If we get a deus-ex-machina to give him a quiet, peaceful end, that'll be the shitty copout that undermines the show's whole theme of victory costing something.

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OTP

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>>15057317
>>15057225
>What happens when a retard watches G-Reco

You fags never cease to amaze me and it goes to show how far you're willing to go when you're defending Neo, Chronicle, Zeheart and Mr. Does Nothing just to prove a point.

>>15057225
>was a mildly simmering bucket of fail with a massive inferiority complex,
So he's an accurate representation of what Char is suppose to be, not a fucking meme like ChocoChar, not a fucking fanfic like Zechs and not whatever the hell Zeheart was suppose to be.
>a worse mission record than Fa "I've never landed a mobile suit in my life" Yuiry,
If you'd watched the show he was successful in every encounter outside fighting the Gundam and if your argument is that he's a shitty Char Clone for not defeating a Gundam then I'll have to ask for your Gundam badge back because no person who has actually sat through most of the franchise can sit here and say that most Char clones fared well against Gundams or even beaten them in act Luin is one of the few to have actually beaten the Gundam in his respective show.

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>>15058774
>Same goes for Eugene
Finally somebody else noticed it. S2 has been wasting the main supporting Tekkadans all season round. And I guess Akihiro and Shino are doing marginally better because they are gundam pilots. Almost feels like Chad and Ride are more important. I don't get what they're doing, they're not gonna sell any Chad merchandise. Even Dante has more potential to become a fan favorite, and they almost teased like they were going to do something with him, only to drop it and have him barely appear again.

A friend of mine is trying to get me to hop back into IBO, claiming it has (just recently?) done something revolutionary for Gundam as a whole. Is it actually more interesting than season 1 now?

>>15059434
>done something revolutionary for Gundam as a whole
I have no idea what your friend is talking about. So far it's all pretty standard gundam stuff. I guess there's this child soldiers and power struggles of crime syndicates angle, but I don't see how that affects Gundam franchise as a whole.

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>>15059315
More like OT3

>>15059434
>it has (just recently?) done something revolutionary for Gundam as a whole.
Maybe? This would be getting into spoilers and we don't really know if it sticks.

>Is it actually more interesting than season 1 now?
Yes.

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>>15059434
>done something revolutionary for Gundam as a whole

Your friend's not kidding, right?

>>15059479
Man, I miss VVV so much.

but how does he poop?

>>15059472
> Maybe?
Explain.

>>15059485
Digitally

>>15059434
>A friend of mine is trying to get me to hop back into IBO, claiming it has (just recently?) done something revolutionary for Gundam as a whole. Is it actually more interesting than season 1 now?

Your friend is pulling your chain.

>>15058792
He's acknowledging the works, but that doesn't intrinsically mean the inner workings of each work are consistent with or apply to each other. You are taking this too literally. It's a nod to the other series existing, but they are still AUs doing their own thing. By the end of the day, it's as said by >>15058722
>Gundam isn't bound by an arbitrary set of messages and ideals

Trying to literally put it all in one single universe instead of accepting that what Tomino is doing is just quick nod aka something on the meta level rather than in-universe lore is how you lot keep getting stuck in all these autistic squabbles about canon and continuity. The moment you confuse the meta with the literal lore is when you're pretty much off on a battle against a windmill.

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>>15059492
>Windmill

Racist

>>15059125
>And on that note, can we expect the next Gundam to be cancelled a third of the way through?

Sunrise has to go back to the fundamentals and stop fucking listening to a fringe part of fandom that has only "hate, gritty violence" on its tongue. They got what they wanted with IBO and the result ? They hate it. In part because of the writing, but mostly because in one respect IBO does get it right. It gets it so right that nobody can have a bit of empathy for the main character. People complain about Kamille, but here we have what is basically an assassin with no sense of morals or regret.

>>15059007
Pretty much this. Funny how Tekkadan is the weak part of the show.

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>>15059488
Well there are two possible things he could be thinking about:
1. The pulled a pretty good bait and switch. We might be witnessing a Char's entire story from his origin to his revenge (whether that pans out or not)
2.Mika is now a paraplegic. His limbs only fuction when he's connected to the Barbatos
Also: Atra still wants to live in an open three way relationship with Kudelia and Mika. This seems to have less to do with her being innocent to the concept of what a harem is and more like she's actually bisexual at this point.

>>15059286
I agree, he's definitely going down a dark road, and in theory I think its a really cool character development. But its hard to get invested in his downward spiral when he's just so boring. All we've seen him do is fight, tell orga he'll fight, kill people and do that thing where he grabs a bigger person for hurting his friends and totally overpowers them without trying but backs off when the girls tell him to (Galileo for almost running over Biscuit's sisters back in the beginning and Hush like I said in my first post). Write him like a real character instead of the OP self insert of a VN is my issue

>>15057164
>S3
When?

>>15059534
I've been pondering if they are gonna have a third season with how the pacing is.

>>15059504

>Go back to the fundamentals

Speaking bluntly, they have UC if they wish to retread the same tired premise for monetary gain every few years.

Alternate universes are meant to be used for experimentation.

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>>15058133
Thanks anon.

>>15058929
>>15058968
as someone who likes mika, you aren't wrong.

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why did they set her up to be the crazy monkey character when she's just slightly dumb but reasonable

>>15059569

I think it's some sort of competition where the assistant writers show how many different concept of "stoic child soldier" could have been a better MC than Mika.

>>15059569
She's not crazy at all, just a little bit eccentric.

>>15059569
Why do tumblr gifs always have to make it eyecancer by bumping up saturation and brightness?

>>15059575
They actually think that it looks better that way.

>>15059577
Second question. Why do they get posted here if only >they think it looks better?

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>>15059569
tomboy

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Im guessing that the expanded feet is a separate piece

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>>15059584

>>15059585
>>15059585

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>>15059578
He probably just found it on google, instead of making a gif himself. Also, the name suggests that someone else did that and he just saved it. Maybe he is one of >(((them))). Who knows.
>>15059584
>skipping leg day

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>>15059569
You know how anime works. If she grinned like an idiot, and eaten that butterfly with great pleasure, then she would be crazy.
But she was just being a little bit curious, like a cat. And kinda cute, actually, regretting her decision to eat the bug immediately. She wasn't set up as crazy.

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Doujins fucking when? I wasn't here when ep37(or 36?) aired, but it must've been a blast. They're doing it intentionally, that's for sure.

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>>15059606
>ep 38 pretends like the scene never even happened
Why am I not surprised? Also there's been a ton of doujins, for a long ass time.

>>15059624
Doujins of those two. There's nothing on sadpanda.

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>>15059629
Yes I meant doujins of the two. Contrary to Japan, it's a super niche pairing in the west so nothing gets scanned is probably why.

>>15059606
>They're doing it intentionally
You mean fucking up a decent pairing beyond salvation with lack of screentime and decent writing? Yup, they are doing that part intentionally.

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>>15059598
>Iok and Julietta

>>15059756
that looks like a hyakuren (teiwaz) successor, but it has an arianrhod color scheme

>>15057796
Poor Ein.

Does anyone else here pity him?

>>15060470
I pity his wasted potential. He could have been something other than going full retard, but the anime staff clearly didn't care.

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>>15060470
Why would I? He's with his husbando now.

I wish I could become like Mika in real life.

>>15060580
Get a spinal cord injury in the right place.

>>15060391
Probably an advanced Hyakuren delivered to Gjallahorn through Iok's contact with Donomikols. Actually, I'm betting it's the "advanced unit" Juliette was talking about piloting.

>>15060690
>I'm betting it's the "advanced unit" Juliette was talking about piloting.
unlikely, the advanced unit is something ariarhod has had in developement for a while, their teiwaz connection is very recent

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> the helmwige reincar, a ms best known for holding a huge sword with its codpiece and then getting it stolen by a murder midget
Betting they'l bring this thing back just to job to Julietta's new ms

>>15058830
Some things are just jokes and fanservice.
Don't try to overcomplicate matters.

hopefully we will never get another gundam as horrid as Iron Blooded Ovaries