Gunpla/Plamo Thread

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***Graze Group Build***
Rules:
Pick any 1/144 or 1/100 kit from the Graze family (Pic Related), and paint and customize it. As far as customizing it, I'm going to place a limit on that. The limit is 50% additions to the kit.
To define 50%, look at it like this, you could take a Graze Ritter and replace the arms (including shoulders), legs, and backpack and I'd call that 50%. I'm not counting handheld bits in that. If you're unsure of something please ask in IRC, the thread, or email.

Start Date: 12/1/16
Due Date: 2/1/17
Submissions go to
[email protected]
Submission format
Please submit photos in jpg via a compressed file (zip, rar, or 7zip), please don't link images to imgur or photobucket or the like. Please also include some WIP photos of the kits being constructed/painted/etc as validation that it's your custom.

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>>14978815

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I haven't ever gotten any Kotobukiya kits and I was thinking about getting one or two but I'm unsure of their complexity and build quality.

The first one I was thinking about was the Formula Skell unit from Xenoblade Chronicles X. I wish they had some of the other heavier Skells like the Amdusias, Mastema or Inferno but it seems the Formula is the only one.

https://www.amazon.com/Xenoblade-Chronicles-Formula-Plastic-Model/dp/B01CV0E0X4

The second kit I was looking at was the Sahelanthropus from Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

https://www.amazon.com/METAL-GEAR-SOLID-PHANTOM-SAHELANTHROPUS/dp/B015X6WYU4

From the description of the Skell kit, it seems to be about midway between HG and MG in size once completed and it's at 1/48 scale.

The Sahelanthropus' description describes it as being at 1/100 scale so I assume it's similar to an MG in scale.

Another thing is that both kits have a transformation gimmick and I was wondering if that would lead to problems like parts breaking in the future.

I asked this in the last thread but got no reply.
For my winter break what should I get and why?
1. Sinanju stein ver ka
2.nu gundam ver ka
3. Mg hyaku Shiki 2.0
4. Pg zeta (or what is a really good pg I just went with zeta because I like zeta gundam but I'm afraid it may be outdated)

>>14978942
The PG Zeta is a good kit, all of them are. Personally, I would go with the Nu, its my favourite MG.

>>14978942
PG Zeta suffers from the transformation gimmick, if you want a solid PG grab either of the Mk. IIs or the Strike+Skygrasper

>>14978827
god ur epic

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>shipping confirmation for my heavyarms p-bandai was emailed overnight
I was sweating bullets worried they forgot my order. Can't wait to never build this thing due to lack of courage to not fuck up on a kit that would take 100 dollars minimum to replace.

Does this board even have a moderator? There is definitely janitors cause snapshits spam gets deleted so what gives

>>14979038
There is no mod who regularly checks on this board like some of the bigger boards have. Thats why shitposting and spam are so rampant here. And the janitor can't always be on and in every thread at once.

>>14978862
Shit, I don't have my finished Skell with me but I finished it recently. I wouldn't pay $80 for it on Amazon, and as for the scale comparison, you are correct. Smaller than most MGs and taller than most HGs. Some of the armor pieces are undergated and the design leaves little to no seam lines. My main complaints would have to be the general plastic that is used and that the kit doesn't stand that well alone. There is an included stand, but the area where it pegs into isn't part of one piece, but rather two pieces that sandwich the legs onto the waist. I fucking despise this design as when you put the stand in it doesn't hold very well and if you move it around the waist explodes, so I'd highly recommend gluing it. I have to admit, I didn't transform the kit however as I don't care for the vehicle mode. It does look good OOB however, and includes a good amount of accessories to use. Since parts on the chest and waist like the pop off, I'd highly suggest that you use rubber cement on parts before you even think of transforming the kit, if you plan on getting it. With Kotobukiya my experiences have always been hit or miss. Also, a lot of paint applications are needed to make it color accurate, but if you want to do custom colors that shouldn't be an issue

>>14978942
The MG Hyaku Shiki 2.0 will probably give you the most for your money out of all of those, and the Strike Gundam PG is pretty good. If you just want a larger kit, then perhaps consider the 1/48 kits?

>>14979131
Well, at least I have some Tamiya Extra Thin Cement about gluing/fusing parts together if it coming apart becomes a problem.

I wish I had known about that stuff a few years ago when I had an older Gelgoog Jager kit that I had bought about 10+ years ago at a Hobby Lobby had the insert tabs for the propellant tanks come out. I wound up using Gorilla Glue to get them to stay in.

Also, where would you recommend I purchase it from? Is it being sold elsewhere for a lower price?

>>14979142
I don't necessarily want a bigger kit I want something complex I can put a lot of work into.
>>14978978
Is there a zeta that doesn't transform? I build the rg and the transformation gimmick was annoying

>>14979116
dusty ass

>>14979206
Well it'd definitely be cheaper to import it, but it would take longer to get to you
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=TOY-RBT-4056
Kotobukiya also has a United States store, but I checked and it's the same price as Amazon. So basically you can either pay slightly more to get it to you faster or pay slightly less and get it to you slower. I got mine when it first released and was forced to pay $100 in EMS shipping so I can't exactly say how much it would cost for importing just this kit.

>>14979259
Hmm, I've never used amiami before. I just looked up the currency conversion rate and $50.10 seems like a pretty good price. How much am I looking at in shipping though? Should I be prepared to bend over?

>>14979295
it depends on how fast you want it. SAL usually takes around two weeks but usually costs like 10$-20$ and EMS will get it to you in like a week, for me it's usually like 4 days, and that would be like $20-$30. So it varies, but since it's only one item it might not be that bad.

>>14978827
Got a better complaint other than meme faces? Or are you just that upset that a group build you wouldn't even enter due to your skill level is based off of a mobile suit from a show you're not a fan of?

>>14979341
I know if you like Gundam IBO you're probably a faggot so there's that too.

>>14979369
yeah i love IBO especially the scene where Orga absolutely POUNDS mikazukis tight manlet ass

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>>14979369
>Thinking anyone cares about being called a faggot on 4chan
>Implying you can't like mech designs you think are cool from shows you dislike

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>>14979399
>>14979399
>Says nobody cares about being called faggot. Has to reply anyway.
>Making implications that I am making implications. The reason for this is unknown.

Destroyed.

I've ordered the MG turn a and its going to be my first MG. Is the turn a complex for a beginner to MG? So far I've built 3 HGs.

Someone give me one good reason as to why you haven't filtered Snapfit-Kunt and his brother yet.

>>14979468
Not rally. im sure you will have no problem since its a rather simpe design.

>>14979475
Because they're either:
-new
-snapfag replying to himself
-people who are doing it to get the rest of us mad

>>14979369
Snapfit why do you have a tumblr

>>14979452
yeah but ur a faggot an no one likes you so haha git owned

What does the bazooka shoulder I keep seeing grazes equipped with come with? I think I saw it in an option set once but I'm not seeing it anymore.

>>14979475
I like making fun of him and occasionally impersonating him.

>>14979475
Snapshit's taking up posting without his trip both in these threads and in other threads on /m/, so it's a bit of a moot point sadly. It's easy to tell because he uses the same images all the time and uses the term "Iron Menstruation" when referring to IBO

>>14979513
It's in Option Set 2, the one with the space type CGS mobile worker.

>>14979525
Thanks, found it.

Season 1 of IBO was actually really good, cant wait to see where it goes with season 2.

Also cant wait for my pink Gundam Flauros.

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>>14979525
>Snapshit's taking up posting without his trip both in these threads and in other threads on /m/, so it's a bit of a moot point sadly. It's easy to tell because he uses the same images all the time and uses the term "Iron Menstruation" when referring to IBO

You actually believe this?

>>14979577
yeh

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>>14979590

>>14979525
Hes shitting up the /a/ ibo threads with his trip off as well. He got a temp ban for it the other week once the /a/ mods caught onto him and came crying to here and /qa/ about it and tried to get the mod removed.

>>14979650
Got an archive link? I wanna see this.

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>>14979650
I should have known that's where the people who watch IBO came from. Now when they make threads I can say <<</a/ and they will get all butthurt.

Also I don't post in /a/ you flaming retard.

>>14978812

Well it is pretty frightening.

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WHY

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>>14979724

>>14979213
Mechanicore Tiefsturmer, KyrosaQ

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>>14979724

>>14979726
If you don't like the colors you can always just pa-

Oh wait, I forgot you're less competent than a child.

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>>14979295
SAL was literally 11 dollars. Size and weight, I'd say EMS is probably 3200JPY

>>14979724
I NEED DIS

>>14979752
Well, that's not too bad a price for international shipping, at least I think. It just brings the total price up to $60.34.

>>14979724
Thats an edit right
If im not mistaken its going to be white and blue in the show

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>>14979801
Hg vidar box spoiled the color. It was only white in the show because it was still being restored and hadn't been painted yet.

>>14979796
Why do you taunt me with lies

Any guys wanna share weathering techniques? Trying to figure out how to do rust.

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>>14979817

Quick an easy way are tamiya master weathering sets. Each set has 3 different types, like soot, rust, dirt, mud, snow, etc, and comes with an applicator brush.

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>>14979724

>>14979817
Look at pictures of real life large machines that are rusty/weathered to get a sense of the scale. Too many people have kits that look like rusty toys rather than a large mech.

>>14979707
Yeah, that implies you participate in the discussion. You just shitpost relentlessly, instead.

>>14979724
Eh. I'll still buy the 1/100 and probably repaint it. I'm guessing that thing would look fierce in a dark color scheme with it's face.

Why haven't resin kit makers made Alex conversions for RX-78-2 kits? Any time there's a resin conversion it's for a suit that looks radically different than the base frame

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Just finished my second Hazel leg. It was a lot like the first, but it felt like it went quicker because I kind of knew what I was doing. Didn't have to strip any parts or do any major touchups.

I'm really liking approaching this model as like 6 smaller models instead of doing it all at the same time. It's not as paint or time efficient, probably, but it's producing consistent results, which is what I want.

Also, can anyone familiar with airbrushes tell me what the front prongs on the Badger Velocity are for? They make it more difficult to wipe away tip buildup or clean the front compared to a traditional cup cover. Its an otherwise great airbrush, way better than my previous generic came-with-a-compressor one.

>>14978942
1. i own the regular sinanju ver ka and if that says anything, its very solid since it has huge legs
2. really good, solid, large kit. the wrists and funnels are a bit weak and my bazooka keeps sliding down when retracted, but looks great
3. dunno
4. dunno, but strike is pretty good (its the only one i own)

>>14979399
what does step 6 there mean?

>>14980070
I liked the regular sinanju ver ka and I loved it. The only thing I didn't like was the hands but I guess the stein fixes that.

Everyone keeps recommending the strike so I may get that

>>14979724
welp, its one of those kits, thinking of a guncannon color scheme, looks cool minus those colors

>>14979976
Looking good, pal. You'll always get better results by taking your time especially when working with something as messy as model kit paint, you have no idea how many of my kits I screwed up because I was trying to hurry up getting all the details painted one after the other.

>>14980074
Shove up ass

>>14980086
Thanks! I'll make sure to keep posting WIPs as I finish new limbs.

>>14979341
>>14979377
>>14979399
>>14979511

When will you colossal faggots learn not to reply to Shitpost-Kun. You're as bad as he is.

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>>14979724

>>14979055
How does one become a mod, anyway?

Heck, I might go and do it if it's not a huge hassle since I'm always in these threads anyway and I want snapshit gone as much as everyone else here.

>>14980191
If you don't know, you're not qualified to be one.

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I'm thinking of doing a custom build using the 1/144 mercurius and the 1/144 tallgeese. Does anyone have experience with the mercurius kit? There aren't many builds to have a shufti at.

>>14979724
RELAX
You can still paint it. :^)

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>>14980223
It's an interesting old thing, hell of a time getting it if you're out of the US. Only two colours, but the articulation isn't too bad. The back shields work on a strange sort of hinge system, and can flick under the arms for some reason.

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Are there any major differences between the HWS add-ons for the Nu and Hi-Nu? I'm trying to decide between the two and while I like the aesthetics of the Nu more, I'm concerned that the design of the kit means that it can't attach the large shield unit to its back.

>pic unrelated

>>14980074
No idea what it says but it's most likely highlighting, with the base color mixed with white or just outright white

>>14980236
Jolly good. I'll start trawling the Internet for a kit.

The more he posts it the more disgusted I am with the Alex.

Painters of the thread: What sort of techniques would you reccomend for a first time painter? I'm not going to leave it as a simple respray/topcoat- would you say preshading is a good place to start? Camo techniques? I'll be recolouring a 1/144 SUMO in Nero colours.

Anyone have a link to a good MG Mk-II Titans 2.0 waterslide set? In having trouble finding one on ebay, its either AEUG sheets or for other grades.

>>14980267
Preshading, panel wash, VERY LIGHT weathering maybe.

>>14980273
Maybe try looking for a general Titans sheet?

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first attempt at nazi bot, and it came out like shit. Looked up SS officers and their uniforms are mostly balack with silver trim. Maybe I should go with more of a dark grey for the main body parts? and keep the inner chest/waist place? The wrists remind me of the arm bands. IDK how I would do it, but I think it would be cool as fuck if I could somehow replace that bit of trim in the middle og the upper chest with the nazi eagle with the reeth. OOO, I could do the upperbody in a tan, but then it would look like an officer not part of the SS. Hmmm, I fucking hate blank slates.

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>>14980276
I'll see how it goes! Already got some vallejo dark grey wash, so we'll see how it goes. How do we feel about decals on the SUMO? My only issue is that because its a more 'Alien' looking suit, they might look a bit out of place?

>>14979724
God damn it, Shino.

...

So when is Shino gonna die horribly, and Hush starts piloting it instead?

>>14980263
That's the old HG

>>14980280
Are you going to be spray painting or hand brushing?
Also, I think the SUMO looks better without decals, but that's just my opinion. If you think it'd look good then go for it, gunpla is freedom etc.

Don't forget to share the results when you finish.

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>>14980297
Spraying. It's already pretty much primed and looking not too bad. The only issue is that my compressor isn't too great- I think it's having some kind of sputtering effect. Either way, only way to get better is to keep trying!

So what is the draw of RGs? I want the RG freedom but is it worth the extra price?

*I have only ever built HG models

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>>14980281
He's not, atleast soon and Hush is probably gonna end up piloting the MA they found.

>>14980278
Less red, just use it for the wrists and small details, you could paint most of the body in the shade of green nazis loved to make their uniforms in, then have certain parts(the helmet in particular) more of a dark gray/black.

>>14980303
I still can't believe that Hush's character has been so strangely derailed. He started out as an almost-Shin- kinda angry and vengeful, but inexperienced and without any skill. Now he's just sucking up to Mika for some reason? Still, I'm curious to see what he'll end up using for the rest of the season. Have we seen a suit that uses the baseball bat in the last Option Pack yet?

>>14980299
I'm certainly no expert but I suggest cleaning your brush again, or checking it to make sure it's totally fine.

I've had similar problems when spray painting and it was due to dried paint clogging and messing with the brush. Even if you think you totally cleaned it, clean it some more. I thought I had it completely cleaned out until that happened to me.
At least, that's what I think it could be. Could be not. Either way, good luck with that anon.

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>>14980278
KO this one turned out much better. The inner feet im not sure one, and I really dont know what I should be doing with the shoulders. But this is a much better start.

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>>14980278
Try this. Two shades of dark grey. Feel free to replace the gold with white.

>>14980300
they are literally 1/144 scale master grades.

>>14980299
I suppose the fact that these aren't even the same model is done on purpose, right?

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>>14980278
Might want to try something like this. This pattern was widely used by Waffen SS Panzer divisions.

>>14980310
I would normally agree with you, but its a brand new Harder and Steenbeck. Doubt it's due to that.

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>>14980311
here's a pic you could use for a better reference.

>>14980316
Really? How has it been achieved? I assumed it was pro-tier pla-plating and painting.

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>>14980278
too black and too much red
dont do 1:1 translation of colors, just colorscheme.
for lineart, use very dark grey or else all details will be lost. red is way too vibrant with black, so either darken it or use it only on the round shoulder. i recommend make it mostly a combination of dark grey and grey thats almost black, with white and red trimmings
again, know jack shit about nazi colorscheme

>>14980311
The color is all over the place, honestly.

>>14980300
They have about the same detail level of an MG but at the size of an HG and they generally cost $30 at the most, unless you're getting a P-Bandai variant. I've built 4 of them: Exia, 00 Raiser, 00 Quan[T], and Astray Red Frame. For me, the hardest part is getting all the decals, especially the tiny ones, put on in the right place.

A few, like one or two that I know of, have been a little fragile like the RG Sinanju with its waist joint. Also, with my Astray Red Frame, for some reason, it keeps coming apart at the hip/waist joint. I don't know if that's something that can be fixed with liquid cement or if I'll just have to be careful handling it.

What are some things that grind your gears?

>MG 1/100 kit
>is an 18 meter class suit
>doesn't use fully articulated hands and instead uses the swappable finger hands designed for smaller suits

>>14980278
dont use black, it always comes out shit unless you know what your doing. go with a really dark blue.

>>14980351
>Everything is too damn expensive for a college student

>>14980354
i dont get this meme, you can nippers, line pens, and a kit for under $40

>>14980351
Those hands are better. Posable hands are a meme. The fingers on most kits are restricted to the hooked fingers because of fragility and they almost always have shit detail.

Sculpted hands come in different sets so you get a bunch of finger motions and they have excellent details since not all of them are meant to be holding a gun (i.e. Bandai knows poseable hands are going to have half their shit hidden almost always)

>>14980360
How about the kits themselves.

>>14980363
if you are buying off amazon with student prime, like $20

>>14980320
Well shit man, a new compressor will probably be expensive. That sucks.

>>14980363
Damn near every hg is on amazon for under 20 dollars. Every RG is under 30. With free shipping it's less than importing and the only contender is hobbywave if the individual sellers on amazon are getting too happy merchant.
>inb4 he doesn't have prime student.

>>14980316
It's literally the same model you faggot

The modeler's blog
http://shunneige.blog.fc2.com/

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>>14980316
when did you graduate elementary

>>14980371
>>14980365
Amazon doesn't ship here unfortunately. The only comfort I can take is that hobby stores are a dime a dozen in my area.

"Fun ain't free" is real.

>>14980378
how bad is the mark up in your hobbystore that an hg is out of budget?

>>14980383
Most based anon


Seriously if you can't afford an HG you should probably KYS

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Some other anon in the previous thread was looking for references pic for a Soviet themed Guntank. Better late than never.

Anyways the beauty of Soviet camos is that they are stupidly simple. you can easily tell these people where in quite a pinch since all of their paintjobs are really hastily applied, almost crudely.

Soviet WWII patterns don't get anymore genuine than Olive drab with some red stars. the more elaborate ones are either two tone medium and dark green or just two shades of grey with some red markings and that's it.

>>14980383
About 10-20%, though on the plus side a few MGs are cheaper than online. It sucks, but at least the paint's cheap.

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Here's a pic of the more indigenous type of aircraft and i'll stop right here unless someone wants to see more. No need to derail this gunpla thread anymore.

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>>14980394
nigga this is well withing a college fags budget. sure you cant shotgun 3 hgs a week with your newly bought airbrush. but still.
tfw no one ships paint here and dont have a hobby shop

>>14980383
do you even have a job wtf

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>>14980391
Thats me, thanks anon. I figure I should have something to go with my nazi zulu. I do like those patterns. The simplicity should go well with a guntank.
>>14980327
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>>14980321
>>14980318
>>14980312
>>14980306
thanks for the feed back guys. Its cool to see so many people interested in this. This is somthing I whiped togeather. I was thinking of the nazi solders you see in those long coats. But I think im going about this the wrong way. I need to think aboutit as a machine USED by nazis, not an actual nazi. I dont like any of the SS/officer colors ive come up with so far. Ill have to start looking at Luftwaffe schemes and panzer colors.

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>>14980378
>Live in a place with absolutely no hobby shops except for RC stuff
>Going to amazon's checkout is gamble as I dread the "sorry we don't ship to your area" making me find an alternative that'll surely fuck me in shipping fees

>>14980405
Nigga. A student has to panel line+topcoat that shit, can't afford no goddam airbrush.

>>14980408
yes i do, so most hgs i have no trouble in buying.

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>>14980409
Oh look, it's /pol/'s dream mobiru soots.

>>14980413
thats what i said

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>>14980415
An Snapfag like yourself would never understand the beauty of historical mil spec paint jobs.

>>14980299
Don't know your set up there man, but I would put a regulator right before your airbrush line and use that for fine tuning pressure and maintaining a constant pressure. The poster above made the other point I'd mention. Tear that brush down fully and clean, make sure the needle is sharp and true and the housing is not flared out.

>>14980409
it you're going that route, then i still recommend 2 tones of colors, like 2 tones of green and 2 tones of grey. not sure what "colors" germans used on their tanks, but something like >>14980427 would look good, using only shades of green. not sure where grey would go, but be careful you dont tread too close to zaku colors

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>>14980430
Much appreciated, thank you!

>>14980362
>Those hands are better. Posable hands are a meme
Maybe in terms of rigidity but when the hands themselves are designed for smaller suits then it messes with the proportions. As well hands are for more than holding guns and beam sabers, articulated hands are quite useful if you don't want to go through the hassle of swapping out hands, and they also allow for more natural looking open hand poses.

> The fingers on most kits are restricted to the hooked fingers because of fragility and they almost always have shit detail.

Master grades haven't had hands like that since 2012, the articulated hands nowadays are found on 3.0 and larger kits, and are basically downsized perfect grade hands with joints at each knuckle

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>>14980409
When in doubt go for a tan base and just fuck my shit up with random green and brown splotches.

Camo back in the days was primitive and random. Who cares about being flashy when the enemy has total control of the skies.

How do you fellas make your weathering look so nice?

Not really derailment, its more that hes undergoing development.

He originally had a lot of misplaced resentment towards Mika for completing 3 surgeries while his brother couldn't even complete one. He wanted to be a ms pilot and prove he was better than Mika to validate his brother. At this point he thinks Mika is only so strong because of the AV system and gundam.

However, after seeing Mika fight a few times and nearly pissing his own pants during his own chance at combat he realizes that Mika is actually strong even compared to other AV and Gundam pilots and wanting to improve he asks Mika to teach him to pilot ms on the way to Earth.

Earth was then his ultimate proof that he doesn't measure up as he finally gets his chance to pilot an ms and prove himself only to get his ass handed to him.

Basically his character development has been about not so much butt kissing Mika as humbling him and breaking him of his undeserved arrogance.

>>14980641
Wrong thread?

>>14980641
Meant for >>14980307

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>>14980450
An attempt at commo. I dont have a compressor fo my airbursh, so I cant use it. I did find a decnt kinda ghetto totorial on youtube where a guy tore up some tape and wraped a model in it to make a camo pattern. Still not quite sure what to so with the shoulders. Should they be in camo too? The head worries me aswell, I'd think itd be a bit small to get decent camo as well.

>>14980609
I'm surprised the Jannys haven't gotten sick of this yet.

>>14980657
Shoulders should definitely go in the same color as the base. the brown and green smears seem to be too much so just make less of those so the tan base below can be visible.

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Efreet Nacht conversion decals done, topcoat tomorrow if I have time

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>>14980657
really recommend this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PIB1_9JQm8
its long, but it gets the idea across.
heres my idea, use a bit of grey to break up the colours and 2 tones of green to make it look better. do camo using plastic spoons to test it out, but i think it'll look fine without it. in my opinion, the nazi armband kinda looks out of place, but thats just me

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>>14980657
you might want to use one of these to topcoat it all.

>>14980736
This one is nice too.

>>14980716
Lookin good

Does krylon matte varnish work as topcoat??

Just wanna say thanks to the janitor/s cleaning up the shit lately, even if the mods don't care it's nice to know someone else does

Is anyone familiar with GK Hobby? I was looking into getting one of their recast busts, but I don't really know what that means in terms of how that affects quality.

>>14980405
Where are you from?

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>>14980657
Don't use tape, buy a few packs of cheap poster tack, it's an excellent, reusable masking material, and the easiest way to do decent camo with spray cans, if you use it in certain ways it can create an airbrushed look.

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Thoughts? The only thing I'm not sure on is the beam saber being black.

>>14981331
I like it but I wonder if it would look better with a darker white instead of that bright white.

I'm thinking of getting the PG unicorn and a couple of 1/100 kits, I have $340 and right now at hobbywave the Unicorn is 190, which kits should I spend the other 140-150 on?

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His shield looks terrified

>>14981403
Save enough for paints on any MG or HG you buy.

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>>14981411
Couldn't resist.

>Gundam Front Tokyo is closing
>1:1 Gundam is being taken apart

>>14981435
What? Citation?

>>14981403
LED set and FA add-on

>Visit hobby shop
>Normally just buy Tamiya acrylics and ignore the Citadel, Testors, and generic no-name crap on the shelves
>Decide to take a look at them again closer out of curiosity
>Find Vallejo model air
>Also find some Mr. Color paints hidden behind the Testors display

Well shit. Are Mr. Color/Vallejo model air any better than Tamiya acrylics?

>>14981442
I'd rather not spend all my money on one kit

>>14981431
I'm not trying to do customs or add detail. I don't have the time on me for painting and I don't want to invest so much money and energy into gunpla alone

>>14981439
http://gundamfront-tokyo.com/news/2016/12/新たなプロジェクトへ /

>>14981480
the end of times

>>14981480
F
tfw genuinely hoped that the nips would get that thing moving for the 2020 olympic opening ceremony.

>>14981480
ok, from my limited Japanese skills it looks like they're just shutting it down in preparation for future stuff. Maybe that moving gundam they were so hyped about a few years back. Who knows? regardless, not the end of the world, but F

>>14981480
What is GF even? An exhibition + store?

>>14981480
;_;
I was hoping to go and see it soon

>>14981489
I still believe

>Order Gunpla online
>Receive item today
>Only one of the 5 items is in the box. Invoice lists everything else I ordered.

did i just get scammed

>>14981529
Where'd you buy it from?

>>14981496
Museum, store, cafe, and theater.

>>14981535
Tower Hobbies

>>14981538
Tower hobbies is pretty good from my experience. Call up customer support or email them.

>>14981538
Maybe wait a bit? I had a scare like that from Mandarake once; turned out that they had just packaged my order in multiple boxes, because the shipping option I chose didn't allow for one box to be big enough/heavy enough to pack everything I'd order in it.

>>14980412
Get a PO box somewhere they do?

>>14980409
I dunno, it makes sense that soldier colors make sense for mobile suits, especially grunt suits.

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>>14978812
>>14978812
>>14978812
Oh geez thanks OP, thank you so much
You could have at least been kind and dropped a (you) in the last thread before blowing my ship up.

Have another one for the macro

For covering clear effect parts when topcoating would just tape be sufficient for it?

>>14981447
Vallejo paints are very good. Easy to thin with water, so they require less ventilation than Tamiya. You can also handbrush a lot easier than with Tamiya. They dry a little less hard, so you have to give it a day to dry or it will get ripped up by masking tape/small scratches.

Vallejo primer is great and comes in a huge bottle. Really good amount per dollar ratio. It can actually be striped with alcohol, unlike Tamiya, which means you can fix mistakes easily.

Tamiya you can get away with airbrushing with no primer, don't expect that to work well with Vallejo.

>>14981748
How good are Tamiya acrylics/enamels? Can I handbrush without primer or do I need it?

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Deciding on my first Real Grade, is this fella as big a pain in the dick as a Zaku to build?

>>14981813
Tamiya acrylics miserable to handbrush with. Their paint requires a lot of thinning with their proprietary thinner (alcohol also works, but not as well), or it will be streaky as all hell. But since you're using a lot of thinner, it also means you run the risk of pulling up paint you just laid down with your brush.

So normally when you paint with acrylics, you put the paint on the model and move it around while it's wet, then wait for it to dry, which takes only a few seconds or minutes depending on how wet it is, then you can add another layer to solidify your color and cover missed spots. When you try doing that with Tamiya, the new layer will pull up with your brush strokes because the thinner loosens the paint, which looks AWFUL. You end up having to wait an hour to a day between layers for the paint to really harden. So yeah, it's really frustrating and takes forever. It also means handbrush touch ups or small details can be really frustrating.

Don't know about their other lines.

>>14981480
What?
I was planning a trip to Japan next year so I could finally see the Gundam and go to GFT
Will I be too late? When is it closing down? Why would they do such a terrible thing?

>>14981748
Can Vallejo primers be hand brushed too? Or just the regular paint?

>>14981836
Dammit, I was planning to keep costs down by handbrushing.

>>14981851
>>14981852
I've handbrushed with Vallejo primer on non-Gundam minis and it works well. On Gundams, you have the problem you always have with handbrushed primer: it streaks until a base layer is applied, so you end up going slightly thicker with primer than you would if you airbrushed it. Just in general I would recommend saving yourself a LOT of hassle and buy a compressor/airbrush. Hand painting requires a lot of skill for Gundams and no matter what skill level you are, it takes a lot more time and effort than airbrushing.

I used to play Warhammer and I can tell you from personal experience from hand painting a bunch of vehicles that it's frustrating as fuck if you're actually trying to get flat layers.

You can get a compressor+airbrush combo on Amazon that will get the job done for about $100 and you'll save DAYS of "fuck I want to kill myself this blows."

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>>14980409
Something else that I threw together in paint too. The anons above me have also done some really nice designs. If you decide to style it like a uniform have you considered throwing in some small gold?
Good luck with the build anyway mang.

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>>14981832
no it's not, in fact, it was much MUCH more enjoyable than the RG Zaku II.

the arm armor bits tend to be a little finicky though, still quite a fun kit, and one of the first major instances of a change to the internal frame style. Overall, it was an enjoyable build, and displays quite nicely.

>>14981024
the carribean

>>14981480
I used a Google Translate plug-in for my browser and apparently what's going on is that they're moving it to the "Diversity Tokyo Plaza", whatever that is.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgundamfront-tokyo.com%2Fnews%2F2016%2F12%2F%25e6%2596%25b0%25e3%2581%259f%25e3%2581%25aa%25e3%2583%2597%25e3%2583%25ad%25e3%2582%25b8%25e3%2582%25a7%25e3%2582%25af%25e3%2583%2588%25e3%2581%25b8%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%25e3%2580%2580%2F

>>14981886
The painful part is that I DO have an airbrush and compressor, it's just that I'm not able to use it in my new place so it sits there being wasted.

Everyone tells me how much harder and frustrating hand brushing is which is making it really intimidating for me, but I don't have much else of a choice right now if I want to paint.

I guess there's also the option of using spray cans, but by the time I can actually paint (December or January), it'll probably be way too cold for the paint to work properly when I spray outside.

Thanks for the info though. From what you've told me, this paint job will probably turn out looking terrible, but.. Alright. Fuck me, I guess.

>>14981922
Thats great! I'll be sure to pick it up then

>>14981955
Why can't you use your airbrush? I've been in a variety of living situations, so I could offer some advice.

>>14981948
>Diversity
Diver City.

>>14981981
I don't own a spray booth so what I used to do in my old place was use my airbrush in the backyard.
In my new place, the land lord doesn't let anyone in the backyard for some reason so that option is gone. I can't afford a spray booth currently and even if I could, the compressor is pretty loud and I'm afraid of the land lord complaining about all the noise, especially since it'd keep being loud for a good hour or two.

Man, it feels bad throwing $350 on an airbrush and compressor only to have it stashed in a closet to be forgotten.

>>14982002
What model compressor are you using? Putting foam under most compressors will virtually silence them.

Also you don't need a fancy spray booth if you're working with acrylics. Get a box fan and a 3M 6000 series mask, then take a cardboard box and cut/fold it until it's two sides, a back, and a bottom. You spray into the box, the box catches the paint, the fan makes sure you're getting fresh air, the mask makes sure you're not breathing anything in. Open a window when you're done (or hell, while you work). If you're using Vallejo paint and Windex as the airbrush cleaner, the smell will be negligible.

>>14982021
Not sure about the model, I'll check that when I'm home.

But wow anon thanks a lot! You're a life saver, those are some great ideas.

By the way, would tamiya top coat be okay to spray indoors?

>>14981886
I was planning on spraying the primer then handbrush with some slightly underthinned acrylic or enamel paint, depending on availability.

I'm going for a '50s/retro aesthetic.

>>14982051
No problem!

Don't use spray cans inside. That's a recipe for disaster. And spraying outside can be a problem depending on humidity/temp.

I've used Future Floor Polish (which I think now is something like "Pledge Floor Polish with Future") and Vallejo Gloss varnish and Vallejo matte varnish with airbrushes. They work great. Varnishes dry on the tip of airbrushes though, so you have to clean the tip with thinner or scrape it off with your nails every couple of minutes. Not difficult, just have to be mindful. Also, way less expensive than canned topcoat.

>>14982060
Like I said above. You can do that, but it's going to be much more difficult than using an airbrush. I would recommend looking up guides on hand painting Gundams, as well as hand painting vehicles. There's a lot of resources for painting Warhammer vehicles which roughly translates to Gundams.

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figured i had better take some proper pictures of my recent gunplas

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>>14982108

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ochre

>>14982075
Alright anon, I'm dedicating my next paint job to you. Thanks a lot for the advice!

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>>14982111

>>14982108
>>14982111
>>14982115

Lookin good, anon.

>>14982113
You're welcome! Remember that even though the Vallejo Air line is "prethinned" that it's still a good idea to put airbrush thinner/water in before the paint and mix them in the cup. I also use flow improver and I put a few drops of paint retarder in the bottles before I use them. The point of all this is to get thinner coats that flatten out when they dry. This avoids the grainy texture that acrylics can sometimes have. You can get giant bottles of flow improver/retarder from general craft stores (Liquitex is a good brand) for cheap. The thinner can be replaced with tap water if you want, I've found them to be about the same. I do 3 drops of water per ten drops of paint, or two drops of thinner per ten drops of paint.

It sounds like a lot of extra steps, but this will drastically reduce the amount of wasted paint, which saves you money in the long run.

Was the high resolution barbatos worth getting? I know it's expensive but that's the only complaint I hear about it. I'm only asking because I'm curious about the high resolution wing gundam coming out

>>14982140
Personally no, but to be fair it's solidly built, and it's a complete redesign; you can paint a 1/100 Barbatos but it'll only sort of look like it.

I say if you really want it then go for it, otherwise there are better models you can buy.

>>14982134
Alright, I'll be sure to do all that. If I'm going to do it, I might as well do it right. I've used Vallejo model air before but always used it the way it is since it's prethinned, didn't know there were so many other things that could be done to it.

How many drops of improver/retarder do you mix in?

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>>14980427
It's not beauty when it clashes with the design.

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>Snapfit being an authority on anything

>>14982157
I put ten drops of retarder in the Vallejo bottle. Just pull of the cap, a paint bubble will come up, pop the bubble, and put the retarder in. Then shake it VERY WELL. IT CANNOT BE OVERMIXED. Then there you go, pre-retarded paint. It'll take a little longer to dry now, but just by a few seconds, which is enough to spread out flat.

When I'm ready to paint, I put some water in and spray to make sure the airbrush is still working and doesn't require deep cleaning. Then I empty that out. I put two drops of flow aid per ten drops of paint I expect to use in the cup, then two drops of thinner per ten drops of paint, then the paint. I typically start with twenty drops of paint unless I know I'll be painting a lot with that color. Use a shitty paintbrush (when you buy the flow aid buy a $5 set of small brushes) to mix the paint up in the cup. Then test that the right color is coming out on some paper or the cardboard. Then get to spraying.

I recommend using bamboo skewers with poster tack to hold the pieces. If you want to get fancy you can hot glue alligator clips to the skewers and use those to hold parts. Either way, it's easy to rotate the parts like this and set the skewers in some styrofoam to dry.

>>14981955
It isn't that hard to get a mediocre paint job handbrushing if you do some research ahead of time and have some idea what you're doing. Also, painting plastic spoons for practice helps

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>>14982164
I had an opinion, bro. If I said something like 'it's wrong if you paint it that way' it would be acting like I had some kind of authority.

>>14982075
>>14982113
>>14982134
>>14982157
>>14982174
Another tip (different anon) is that Future can be given a flat look by mixing it with flattening mediums like Tamiya Flat Base. Look into "the complete future", it's a modeling guide on many applications of product.

>>14982281
I plan on buying some future for tightening joints. What kind of brushes should I buy for it? I can brush it on with a small brush right? How else can I apply it in small areas?

>>14982286
you're supposed to drink it dumbass

>>14981894
When I was thinking f a uniform style, it did cross my mind. Most of what I saw for SS officers (witch was originally the idea), had all their pins and buckles and shit in silver. But at this point im thinking more Nazi war machine. So i'll probably end up going with panzer or luftwaffa colors. I just need to decide if/how I want to do camo.

>>14981489
Holy shit, Im not the only one, ok. I feel slightly better now.

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>>14982286
>tightening joints

>>14979807
Yeah justfound out about that recently

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>>14982333
What?

>>14982344
He's saying you're really bad at being a fake.

>>14981489
>>14981525
>>14982318
>implying they're not just taking it apart to apply magnetic coating

>>14982356
>they're taking it apart to apply pearlescent coating and nub marks

>>14982365
imagine the ammount of cans...

>>14982355
huh?

>Everyone loves me so much they want to be me

>>14981331
i like the color combo, but maybe add some white to the helmet

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Building boat is relax as fuq

>>14982281
Wow, didn't know about this, thanks anon. I guess it's time to order some Future.

>>14982134
Can I use Mr. Retarder? I've got a bottle of that stuff already.

>>14982583
I don't know. I don't think the Mr. Color paint products would work since they're lacquer, which doesn't mix with acrylics.

Just get a bottle of Liquitex Slo-dri from a big box hobby store like Michaels. It'll cost like $5 after coupon for a two+ year supply.

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Finally started painting on my MG Jesta

>>14979976
Taking it slow is a much better aproach then trying to be quick. The end result will almost always be better. Legs are looking good anon, keep it up!

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>>14980278
Forget about black, go for dark/black grey. That way you retain the detail more and it'll come out as black.

Pic related is done use black-grey Vallejo and as you can see it's almost black, but much more vissible.

>>14980325
This is a much better use of the color scheme

As for the Nazi theme, try using less red. Especially the shield and shoulders stand out waaaay too much.

Good luck anon!

>>14980391
>>14980399
Not the anon that requested them, but seeing those I'm vowing to make a Soviet Gunpla in the near future. Thanks!

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>>14980409
When in doubt go for Star Wars stormtroopers, anon

>>14981331
>>14982531
I agree with this anon, the colors are a nice match, but personally I'd add some white or even orange to the helmet.

>>14981447
I'm using Vallejo Model Color and I really REALLY like it.

Brush them with a low PSI and thin it properly and it'll do its job really well.

>>14980427
Maybe next time you should consider a color scheme that matches the aesthetic of the robot you're painting

>>14982824
Forgot your trip, snapfit?

>>14982719
I like just about everything about this except the fin. The red looks kind of weird on the fin. And you are 100% correct about the dark grey looking better than black. The same can also be said about dark blues. If you look at a lot of cartoons and comics, they'll use dark blue instead of black because it allows for more definition to be seen.

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Hoe hoe

Its me

Santa Jew

Ill give each of you good lidda goys one present dis year so make it count

>>14982844
Kill me.

Can anyone tell me what bazooka did the GM II have? Google Fu is failing me and I want a heavy hitter for my Gunpla GM II squad.

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Whats a good method to do digital style camo?

>>14982164
What sword is that?

>>14982850
masking tape
inane amounts of it

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>>14982844
Don't kill me if anyone asks you to.

>>14982844
>5
KILL SNAPFIT-KUN

>>14982844
Kill me slowly and painfully <3

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>>14982844
Dubs

>>14982844
Please make a Perfect Grade Neo Zeong

>>14982844
HGAC Tallgeese
and a HGAC Woundwort for my friend too please

>>14982884
I fucked up, HGUC Woundwort

>>14982888
>Woundwort never

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Where do I get one of these? I need it

>>14982844
i want the Shinos Frame Shiden Custom from p-bandai pls

>>14982837
I'm not snapfit, I'm just someone obsessed with aesthetics

>>14982844
1/100 Vidar

>>14982229
Plastic spoons is a good idea, thanks anon. Yeah I figured it'd be pretty mediocre, but the way everyone says it's so much harder makes me believe that it'll come out a total disaster. Not that it matters now, since anon helped me with using my airbrush.

>>14982174
>>14982281
You guys are the best, thanks anons.

>>14982743
I like this.

>>14982899
The store

Who else here has to deal with the shitty USPS in Kearny, NJ? I swear to god those fuckers take longer than SAL ship times do. I ordered one kit from GP, only took them one day to send it out, but it's been 4 days since it was originally out for delivery.

Fuck those guys.

>>14983032
What store?? I can't find them anywhere

>>14983043
Find their location and set it on fire. Problem solved. You'll wait the same amount of time but from a reasonable distance now.
Also
>NJ

>>14983043
Sucks here in NY too.
USPS sucks everywhere I think.

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>>14983043
look at this shit, this is from their facebook page

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An attempt at a two tone type deal for nazi bot. I dont think I like this one, or the browns in general. I think ill start looking into winter colors, or maybe go back to the grey/dark green scheme. I'd like to keep with panzer colors. I might start looking into Luftwaffe though if I cant settle on a panzer scheme.

>>14983091
They could have just been bored one day, man. Cut 'em some slack.

>>14983099
always keep experimenting man, personally, the black helmet stands out way too much, so maybe change that. add more colors to the chest, looks like a sea of green.

>>14983104
you serious?

>>14983099
The colors are actually nice, if you're planning to paint camo, but the black helmet's really out of place.

I suggest painting the helmet like the rest of the body. If you want alt colors, the Germans also did grey colored tanks.

>>14983099

Seriously bro, if you want to do a German WW2 scheme, look at infantry uniforms. Don't go adding unnecessary colors, keep it simple.

>>14983142
Not him but they were probably on their break. Employees are required to take a 30 minute break for every 6 hours they work by law.

>>14983099
wow racist

>>14983156
He's right. They're mobile SUITS, not mobile armors.

>>14983157
They're still fucking around with people's packages though?

>>14980609
It doesnt look like its a 2.0. Seems they were decorating the Thunderbolt display with other existing year 0079 kit suits.

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Heres another one based on panzer colors. This is the best ive come up with so far. This in a camo I dont think would look too bad. Not sure what color to detail with tholugh in this scheme.

>>14983091
Fuck, I don't know which side to feel. The fact that these blacks have jobs and aren't doing some BLM shit for Tyrone,

Or the fact they have a job and fucking doing jack and shit. This is what happens in a country where you fill quotas due to skin colors.

>Make America Great (read White) Again

>>14983236
That looks MUCH nicer.

>>14983218
It's from the MG GM Sniper II display.

>>14983237
I think one of them's white.

>>14983182
Are they? It looks like a water bottle to me.

>>14983091
lolunions

>>14983260
Probably the only decent worker, that's why it takes 4 days to deliver someone one mile down the road.

>>14983264
What are you even looking at??

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no wonder /toy/ looks down on /m/

>>14983264
They're playing with packaged hockey sticks dude

>>14983299
At the very least they might just be posing with them for a shitty picture. Both kinda look white to me though(One might be Hispanic kinda hard to tell because of the lighting.)

>>14983294
/toy/ is full of poorfags who complain about prices on everything. There are literally /toy/fags that can't even afford $50 figmas every few months, the only somewhat affluent /toy/fags are: dollfags and they're like 80% women that leech of parents or SOs; a some of the RD collectors who are envied by the rest because they can afford the scalp prices for Metal Builds; and other mecha collectors who collect Sentinel/Riobot and SoC figures.

Notice anything?

>>14983309
How delusional are you?

>>14981411
>>14981433
Witnessed

Once you see you cannon unsee.

What do you guys do with all your boxes? I have like a fuckton of HG boxes and a PG Unicorn box and they take up too much space but I don't want to just throw them away.

>>14983324
I use them as spare part boxes.

>>14983324
I cut out the part with the cool box art and the part that shows off pictures of the kit, then throw away the rest

My goal is to have enough to fill every inch of my wall with Gundam box art, like some kind of 10 year old kid who's never going to get a girlfriend

>>14982719
Stay edgy anon that's beautiful

>>14983324
I go all matryoshka doll with my boxes. I put smaller boxes inside bigger boxes. Any spare/leftover parts, I keep in a single box.

>>14978812
Can someone tell me if it's possible to build something on your own from scratch? I have no money to import stuff and i live in a third world shithole where no one likes gundam, they only watch dragon ball and the only figures around are shitty bootleg dragon ball keychains.

How do i make my own gundam?

>>14982850
I have a question about digital camo,

If it were scaled down 1/144 wouldn't it no longer look digital, isn't that the point of digital camo.

I'm honestly asking I obviously understand the pixelated look has its own charm

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>>14983324
Build an awesome box tower

>>14983345
Yes, you can. Gundam Scratch Build manuals exist. Good luck getting pla plates though

>>14983324
most of my stuff is in a basement where there's a wall with nothing but wooden studs, so i stack my boxes between the studs so it looks like i have a wall of gundam boxes and it doesnt fall

How do you think Bandai will improve upon the Zaku 2.0 frame in the 3.0 frame, if there ever is one?

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Do you think I added enough verniers or nah

>>14983364
None on the arms?

>>14983364
You need more, /m/an. My OOB ReZel Type-C has more boosters than that.

>>14983345
surprisingly, scratchbuilding costs money, with pla-plating, recasting, and the tools to do it. if you are really low on money, then get some soft wood, a knife, and glue. maybe clay as well. theres this guy in korea who makes all of his gundam with chopsticks. it just takes patience and practice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuZih6Iwt4g
if he can do it, im sure you can too

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>>14983236
Im liking this more. Concept for camo colors. I this this would look really good if it was an actual camo pattern and not just shit smears.

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>>14983365
I thought about it actually, but I'm not sure where there would be space since the arm blades will take up most of the arm.
Unless.. I put verniers ON the arm blades.. and make giant boomerangs!

>>14983368
More boosters it is. Just gotta find more spots I can squeeze them in.

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My garmillas non-scale warship, built, panel-lined and topcoated

Thoughts??

>>14983345
Wrong hobby to be in poorfag. Get out of here before someone else catches your poverty

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>>14983380
If you're basing it on panzer camo maybe don't paint it mostly green with brown and tan on top, paint it mostly tan with brown on green on top.

If you want it to look like infantry camo I don't know much about that, I just like the vehicles...

Ez-8 Ver. Ka when?

>>14983400
>Thoughts??
Get a better camera

How much easier would it be for conversion kits to be made if the people making them switched to 3d printers?

>>14983315
That animu waifufag retards are poor, basement dwelling neckbeards and that glorious BJDicks and mechunts are well adjusted, stock exchange media mogul oil tycoons?

>>14983453
What if ten or twenty years from now all of us except third world poorfag up there own 3D printers and we can print model kits with them and manufacturers switch from boxed kits to paid file downloads and people start pirating them and we never have to pay for model kits again but then the industry dies and the kits end up shit because no one can get enough money by making them?

>>14983380
>>14983236
i think it would be better if you used a darker shade of grey and the second tone of green on the chest, but they're just personal opinions. looks really good otherwise, good luck
looking at this model makes me realize how similar it is to sinanju

>>14983502
Imagine being able to change the hex code and dye mixtures and print entire runners in any given colour.

>>14982844
Please give me a gunpla gf ;_;

>>14982844
Ban snapshit-kun

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>>14983530
Here you go, anon!

>>14983552
I actually ordered that from P-Bandai. I wish I had the AEUG version too.

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>>14983515
somthing like this anon?

>>14983552
I actually ordered that from P-Bandai. I wish I had the AEUG version too.

That said, learning and building plamo with a qt tomboy would be great too.

- arguing about series
- "dammit, is my only purpose here to hold your pieces together while they cure?"
- splitting the costs on an airbrush and then building as much together to get the most out of it

>>14979107
why don't you at least panel line them?

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>>14983568
i was more thinking like this, but its up to you

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>>14983572
Please don't remind me of what I'm missing in life

>>14983530
>you get a living gunpla kit that unconditionally loves you
>every single part of the kit will bring fully assembled suits to life

What kit do you choose, anon?