Ghost in the Shell | Trailer #1

While this isn't giving me an immediate violent reaction like I thought, I still have this feeling of "I know that this is supposed to resemble the GITS I know but it's just coming off like a fake and something that could easily go wrong"

Looks like shit.

Looks awesome and better. Never a fan of GitS cartoon hentai.

https://twitter.com/osteoferocious/status/797737538387472384

>>14930014
fucking lol, this is just like the Kite live-action!

File: 1459920936219.png (73KB, 454x453px) Image search: [Google]

73KB, 454x453px

>>14930014
This looks more PKD-ian than any adaptation of PKD's story.

>>14930014
>Origin story
>Motoko getting her body as an adult
>Motoko talking like "that"

I'm not going to go full "NOT MUH GITS", but so far this film really seems like it's only GITS in visuals.

>>14930014

> Who am I?
> oh noes, muh amnesia,muh past, I must find out who I was
> bug eyed Batou
> just making live action copies of scenes from SAC or the movies

Meh. I'm not really against the existence of the movie, but the second she started questioning her lack of a past I zoned out. The naked suit looks pretty bad too. Either get your tits out or put on some clothes. Don't half ass it.

all the weaboo crying is hilarious

They are just as oblivious to how pathetic they are as the G1 Transformer fans crying over what Michael Bay did.

File: 1467359617340.jpg (144KB, 500x594px) Image search: [Google]

144KB, 500x594px

>>14930014
>scarlett johansson
It's looks like they're going all out on special effects and they get her to play the main character. Fuck, it's gonna be aeon flux or the resident evil all over again.

>>14930127
Transformers was an awful movie even without it being an adaptation.

>>14930127
All the bay movies even non transformers ones are crap, good for a cheap action mess but when you did deeper you see alot of plot holes and poor scripting.

Its akin to mc donalds in a sense, its good until you think about it and having it more than once is bad for you...like fast food in general

>>14930152
Fuck you, the Rock, Pain & Gain and 13 hours were fucking awesome.

>>14930160
Well, to be fair he makes alot of money so you aren't alone, taste is subjective anyway.

Therefore there is no need to be upset with your mc donalds anon :^)

File: blehtoko .jpg (96KB, 230x230px) Image search: [Google]

96KB, 230x230px

>>14930014

fucking meh

>>14930166
OK then.

>advertising your cyberpunk movie with Depeche Mode

That was so 90's it swung around into being entertaining. If this goes all-in it might actually turn out as a fun action-thriller.

That wig still looks like shit.

File: 1388474408190.png (708KB, 1130x808px) Image search: [Google]

708KB, 1130x808px

>>14930014
>It's an "amnesiac protagonist is the centerpiece of a far-reaching conspiracy" film

I want to try to keep an open mind about this, but I'm not liking the way this is shaping up. It just feels too generic to get hyped for.

And for shit's sake, if you're going to typecast a woman known for playing a cold assassin, go all the way. That "my dog just died please give me a hug" tone of voice is highly unfitting.

>>14930224
As generic as it is, I think it's a sold story seed for GitS. The Major is pretty much isolated from everyone else, if you factor in SAC she's, what, fully cyberized from childhood right?

Don't you think that might mess with someone's world view, being a full cyborg starting at your formative years? All you really have to call yourself is the nebulous quantified individuality they call a ghost, and in a world where everything is connected how are you to say that's you in there and not some other outside influence?

It's like, when you realize for the first moment in your life that you are very much a walking blank slate, your body isn't yours, your voice isn't yours, your sensory intake comes from manufactured prosthetics... all you are is a ghost in a shell, and that's kinda unsettling.

Positive from nips

I get what they are going for, but it seems a lot watered down cyberpunk story with GiTs stapled on.

It might now be awful, it won't be muh GiTS and in a year people will have a whatever action to it with a few idiots who think it is amazing

>>14930014

Eh, might actually be good. I liked Batou's bugeyes.

GitS always teased the idea that the fullbody cyborgs have no way of knowing if they are "real" or not, so seeing the movie working on that is at least decent AND it means we won't just get a rehash of Oshii's leftovers.

With that said I can also see this movie being really bad. I thought the slowmo was unfitting off GitS, which usually relies on weighty choreography instead that emphasizes the tech behind everything. I can also see the main story being really fucking bland.

>>14930360
>Eh, might actually be good. I liked Batou's bugeyes.

>Eh, might actually be good.

>I liked Batou's bugeyes.

>>14930363

My sense of cool is transcendent, ok?

Also, this is what they will fucking look like if you put them on a real human being. The fact that they still did it means they are actually trying to do an honest portrayal of GitS and not some "made for americans" remake.

>>14930360
>Eh, might actually be good. I liked Batou's bugeyes.

You are hilarious.

File: 1449249034867.gif (448KB, 500x275px) Image search: [Google]

448KB, 500x275px

>>14930224
>It's an "amnesiac protagonist is the centerpiece of a far-reaching conspiracy" film

This.
Felt done to to death formula at this point.
Manga Motoko when?

Fuck the haters, this movie looks amazing.

>>14930443

It LOOKS amazing but it also looks like they pussied out everywhere it counts.

Pretty much the opposite of Edge of Tomorrow which changed everything and yet managed to keep the same spirit.

>>14930449

>Pretty much the opposite of Edge of Tomorrow which changed everything and yet managed to keep the same spirit.

To be fair, Edge of Tomorrow was re-written by the guy who wrote The Usual Suspects. He might know a thing or two about strong characterisation.

>>14930457

It's not meant to be a knock in any way, I loved EoT.

>>14930465

Oh I wasn't saying it was, but Cruise got a big-boy screenwriter to come in and re-write the whole thing. Originally it was going to be a fairly straight adaptation, but Cruise wasn't crazy about the script so he brought MacQuarrie in to revamp the whole thing.

That's pretty rare for these kinds of movies.

>>14930449
We only found out how much EoT retained the spirit of AYNIK when the film came out and we actually saw it.

With that in mind I think it's only fair to wait and see how the finished product plays out.

Well, that looks like it's going to be significantly worse that Arise.

>>14930130
>Fuck, it's gonna be aeon flux or the resident evil all over again.

So six movies in total?

>>14930366
They got Geishas, Sake and Tatami-mats right in the first scene and you still think that it's not a remake for an US test audience?

Pls. This is basically them Batman Returns of GitS.

>>14930014
The score was okay, but I find myself wanting something more like this for a GitS/Cyberpunk movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDcpWmHMP7k

File: 1473630887008.gif (789KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

789KB, 300x300px

>>14930570

>GITS scored by Radiohead

At least it's not DB Evolution

>>14930579
Really should be blasting Death Grips tho.

File: Harper Looking Out into the Universe.png (1MB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1600x900px

We're really doing this huh

Doesn't look as terrible as I was afraid of. Not saying it looks good, but it may not be, as >>14930599 said, DB Evolution

it will be shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
just like everything those hollywood hacks touch

File: Ghost.in.the.Shell.1995.1080p.Bluray.DTSES.x264-SHiTSoNy.mkv_snapshot_00.24.04_[2014.05.11_02.34.11].jpg (166KB, 1920x1040px) Image search: [Google]

166KB, 1920x1040px

>>14930014
Looked interesting.

I'm surprised at how many shots they're taking from the movie and tings from SAC directly.

I feel like naked suit doesn't really work well in live action. And Batou's eyes looked like shit. Otherwise there was still some nice shots and I like all the giant holographic ads.

It's going to be a bad to mediocre film that will sell decently due to Asian film markets. If it sells well enough, we're probably going to see more Hollywood anime adaptations.

File: 1340422182544.png (47KB, 103x160px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 103x160px

>sometimes Batou has the dime eyes and sometimes he doesn't

File: 1379431584492.jpg (112KB, 677x1000px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 677x1000px

>after the credits roll
>audience can hear a character taking a call
>the contents of the call is some government official setting up a new security division
>ends the call by thanking a "Mr. Goda"


How do you react?

>>14930771
no more pls

>>14930681
The thermoptic camo suit could've looked good in live action, but they had a short actress with a pretty average body play a taller character with a thin but muscular body, and changed the simple, latex looking suit with visible nips to an overdesigned, fabric looking suit with bad CG and no nips

File: 1434911651876.gif (2MB, 240x180px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 240x180px

>>14930014
>the Major is ScarJo rather than a Japanese actress with pale skin and muscles
>Oshii's philosophical take is clearly going to get dumbed the fuck down, when it was kind of ALREADY a bit of a slow pitch
>stealing fight sequences directly from the Oshii adaptation and SAC
>glorious chanting and sleek Oshii direction replaced with gratuitous slow-mo
>generic "original" Holywood script

just dyke my shit up

What are you guys complaining about, they nailed the aesthetic. And the Oshii movie was a butchered version of the manga plot too, don't see how that's an issue now.

>>14930014
>that moment you realize she's standing at a graveyard

blade runner

This could have been way fucking worse. At least Making of a Cyborg is in it.

>>14930894
Was a much better movie than this is shaping up to be.

>Major taking cover behind a concrete pillar as it's shredded by bullets

I don't know about the rest of you, but if that means a live-action version of the spider tank fight, i'm in.

Granted they might find a way to mess that up too, but hey.

File: GiTS Dive.webm (3MB, 720x390px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 720x390px

>>14930867
Oshii butchered GiTS into something good though.

>>14930867
>they nailed the aesthetic
fuck no they didn't

especially not for their MAIN PROTAGONISTS

>>14930911
it SHOULD have been worse, then it would have been funny instead of just being depressingly mediocre

>>14931037
A live-action fattie fighting a CG spider tank?
I'm not.

>>14931037
>The spider tank has an open cockpit on the front
watch it happen

>>14930771
So...Snake Eater's end?

>>14931093

Nah. They'll probably change it to be less cute spider looking though. On the other hand, they'll probably ditch the silly ass in the air riding position. God knows what they'd do with Tachikomas, Hachikomas or whatever too.

>this could have been worse
and more entertaining as a result

It falls right into that shit spot of blandness, half-assed attempts to stick to the source materials, and cheap, clumsy attempts to appeal to modern audiences

And let's not forget that a good part of the 95 movie's appeal comes from the fact that it's hand-drawn animation.
There's a constant amazement that comes with watching great cel animation, that simply cannot be replicated with CG and live-action.

So to sum up:
-it doesn't look as good as anything since Innocence
-the protagonists look awkward and dull as fuck
-the "philosophy" will be dumbed down (and was never very solid to begin with)
-it won't have the appeal of proper animation
-the story will be a retread of Innocence with one or two scenes from the movie, but uglier.


Who would want "the same thing as before but way worse"?

Are you that starved for new GitS material?

>>14931114
Did the Oshii movie have Komas? It's the one everyone knows, so if they weren't there, they won't be in this movie either.

>>14931136
I never liked the komas anyway.

>>14931125
>If it was worse it would have been entertaining
Did you forget Dragonball Evolution?

That was worse, that was the poster child of how you can royally fuck up an adaptation.

Worse=/= better in terms of adaptations you fuck.

>>14931176
It was more entertaining BECAUSE it completely fucked everything up.

It's a funny-bad movie.

This will just be a bland-bad movie.

>>14931125
Literally all we've seen is a teaser trailer.

Its looking like Batou is going to be the best thing about his movie, as usual.

>>14931183
>DB Evolution was a funny bad movie
No the fuck it was not.

>>14931210
which isn't saying much

>>14931208

No. That the as true a day or two ago. It's no longer true and the full trailer was in the OP.

>>14930734
Looks like he's going to get the eyes installed at some point in the movie, probably after getting shot or something.

with this trailer out, i'm loving the scenery at least, anybody got anymore cyberpunk scenery porn?

File: 1337433589137.jpg (285KB, 1261x1913px) Image search: [Google]

285KB, 1261x1913px

>>14930014
> You are the first of your kind
Holy shit, I feel like they are going to be shitting on the whole loss of individuality things.
They payed scarlet too much to imply she is a generic design, so they are going to make her a super-hero.

Who else fear that they aren't going to delve anywhere into the idea of exchangeable body ? and do it One "soul" = One body ?

That would be beyond simplifying, that would be shitting on the source material.
At best it might encourage someone to look at Oshii's movie and discover TRUE meaning.

>>14930472
> We only found out how much EoT retained the spirit of AYNIK when the film came out and we actually saw it.

Was EoT trailer really so far out that you thought it was for a completely different movie ?

>>14931310
>That would be beyond simplifying, that would be shitting on the source material.

Eh, a story about technology allowing sentience to finally transcend human form shouldn't be hard to do, even for an American audience.

>>14931310
You must've forgotten how much we expected Edge to fail here.

File: Will - Transcendance.jpg (347KB, 850x1260px) Image search: [Google]

347KB, 850x1260px

>>14931333
You know that they tend to take a test audience and make use even that one brain damaged kid never feel stupid.
Look at the movie Transcendence, it was actually interesting, the topic was addressed as much as it's possible with their budget they took the cheaper discreet approach rather than have Will Caster AI control the entire world.
...and that movie pretty much bombed ("boring !" "pretentious bullshit")

>>14931343
That was an honest question actually, I never paid attention to it and its trailer at the time.
Beside, all I knew about EoT source material (all you need is kill) was the pitch and the awful manga they made after.

>>14931343
Edge did fail in terms of monetary success, although all of the blame for that falls on the retarded fucking marketing campaignwhoever thought that changing the name of the movie from the theatre showing to the home release needs to be curbstomped
I really hope Tom Cruise actually gets to do that Yukikaze adaptation that was rumored to be in the works, although there hasn't been a peep about that since 2015.

>>14931628

Wait, they changed the name between theatre and home media releases?

>>14931637
Yes.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/08/15/edge-of-tomorrows-new-title

>>14931637
Not that anon but I remember them going from All You Need is Kill pre-release (when it was first getting off the ground) to Edge of Tomorrow (with the theatrical release) to Live, Die, Repeat for the home video release (although it was still called Edge of Tomorrow; they just had Live, Die, Repeat plastered all over it. )

File: Ghost in the Shell Arise - Alternative Architecture - 10 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_02.19_[2015.11.08_03.50.53].jpg (57KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

57KB, 1920x1080px

>They didn't save your life
>They stole it
>I don't know who to trust

>>14931628
I meant more here.
On /m/.
Where we were dead certain they'd fuck it all up because
>white people
>making a movie of a light novel

Who's directing this? And why is it not Ridley Scott?

>>14930014
FUCK

More mass market pandering Hollywood tripe. Countdown to /m/ being flooded with newfags, /a/ and /tv/ pieces of trash in 3 - 2 - 1.

Now GitS and Shirow will be the Gundam/Tomino, Go Nagai, or Leiji Matsumoto. Prepare for a fuckton of shitposters who don't even watch or care about the shows they shit on. Post rate will go up to nine hundred per hour, nothing but ebin trollsters spamming the same thread twice a day with a throwaway GitS image they found on page 1 of Google Image Search.

>>14930014
Why is Scarlet J-over-used-hansen is playing 'Motoko Kusanagi'? Are they really going to call her by a superjap name with a straight face?

>>14931794

Im willing to get over the fact that she has a Japanese name without looking especially Japanese because of reasons of cyborg, but all the same she's a pretty awful actress who's only here because we want the avengers money.

>>14931785
It wasn't going to happen already?

I mean I was expecting shitposting anyways, even if it actually turned out to be good.

>>14931802
Just keep note on how she is called "Major" all the time. They most probably will not call her by the japanese name much.

>>14931826

It bugged more than it should that she didn't introduce herself as THE Major. Something about "this is major" just really gets on my tits

File: 1283467642102.jpg (328KB, 1786x1911px) Image search: [Google]

328KB, 1786x1911px

>>14931785
Movie release don't send us newfag, it's international release of shitty anime that do, because only anime fan tend to know about 4chan.

And frankly I would take movie fanboy over the dumbass newfag who believe the only Gundam series they watched (Wing, Seed or Gundam 00) are marvel.

Plus, this movie will certainly be too short and too bad to compare with any other GitS.

>>14931841
It bug me that she sound like completely out of her depth when (original) the Major have always been in control and master of near-everything

Fake movies for fakers are damn fake.

File: Ishikawa's a fancy dresser.png (137KB, 331x521px) Image search: [Google]

137KB, 331x521px

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say that the trailer looks pretty good.

This is to Ghost in the Shell, as a franchise, what Oshii's films were to the manga. It's a different take that blends defining traits of the manga with an updated look while aiming to stand out on its own.

The trailer shows that it'll be visually impressive and that they've got an interesting hook.

My only issue is that Motoko is defined as being unique and the first of her kind, when Ghost in the Shell's world is in that phase where cyborg tech is genuinely everywhere and she's not the only "full cyborg" person on the planet.

I will echo the sentiment that people are getting bored of ScarJo, though. It's not about her fitting the Major's look/style, but rather just me being tired of seeing her everywhere.

Anything else will have to wait until the film comes out.

This should have been the trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5amv-vqUFo

>>14931841
>
I can imagine herself being called Major, not Motoko Kusanagi lol

>>14931918
At least they're trying. Anyone found some news about Shirow's feels on this?

>>14931926
>oh boy now I can quit my job with all these royalties and just draw pinups

File: cop sense tingling.png (607KB, 753x710px) Image search: [Google]

607KB, 753x710px

>>14931914
>It's a different take that blends defining traits of the manga with an updated look while aiming to stand out on its own.
See the problem is this isn't, it doesn't want an identity of it's own it is going "Hey guy remember that movie ghost in the shell, WOAH so cool we did a live action one with all your favourite shots!"

I'm fine with an properly original movie, I'm not with a watered down copy mixed with some general hollywoodness to try and get the general public in

>>14930475
At least Uwe Boll isn't doing movies anymore.

>>14930022
Daily reminder that we could always hope for an I, Robot.

That is to say a good, fun action movie that pays some homage to the source material but really has minimal to do with it.

>No Tachikomas
>No hacking or cyberspace
>Barely any Batou.
>Making the movie be about the Major's personal origin story which, what's even the point?
>no Puppet Master
>no Laughing Man
>no Individual Eleven
>barely a mention of Section 9

This movie just looks like some kind of amalgamation of LUCY and Blade Runner, filtered through the Resident Evil / Ultraviolet / Sucker Punch / Watchmen aesthetic of masturbating over extreme slow motion gun-kata

Also Scarlett Johannson is good at good at pulling off a wry Whedonish smirk, and she's good at doing a worried constipated pout. She demonstrates both quite well in this trailer. Too bad they have nothing to do with the Major.

>>14931936
That man should be arrested for his crime on film.

>>14930579
It's been a while since i saw this gif

Another clip. Note the music here.
https://youtu.be/F5amv-vqUFo

>>14931954
Did you just get that from the trailer?

>>14931650
>>14931639

What kind of fucked retardation is this

>>14931954
>No Tachikomas
>No Hacking or cyberspace
>Barely any Batou
>Barely a mention of Section 9
Wow, I did not know the movie was already released.

>Making the movie be about the Major's personal origin story
Who knows what they are doing.

>No Puppet Master
>No Laughing Man
They went on record saying that Laughing Man would need more setup than just a movie and for Puppet Master they did not just want to copy the movie.

Its this weird mix that they are doing.

>>14931932
plz

>>14931970
>Laughing Man would need more setup than just a movie
They did a compilation movie of it though

File: 1431089849837.png (121KB, 284x312px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 284x312px

>Oshii plot, possible SAC elements
>SAC designs
>Arise design at 1:53

Make up your goddamn mind.

>>14931933
>I'm fine with an properly original movie, I'm not with a watered down copy mixed with some general hollywoodness to try and get the general public in
You've got a solid point, but I feel like it's too early to tell.

The trailer is playing it pretty safe, with a decent blend of mystery and action to get the common film goer going while also serving as bait for fans of the manga/films/anime.

I don't blame them, since Sci-Fi is basically associated with "Flop if you're not Star Wars or Star Trek" in the movie business and is known for being a career killing genre.

My biggest worry about the trailer is that they appear to be trying to focus on a personal story of the Major's (IT'S ALL A LIE THEY STOLE YOUR LIFE) instead of examining the effects of interconnections and the flow of memes in an increasingly cyberized society (the stand alone complex, Solid State, etc) because the point of Ghost in the Shell isn't about the Major herself, it's about the society she operates in.

>>14931973
Dunno what to tell you

>>14931987
That I am right that they were able to make the season into a movie?

>>14931985
That simply cannot work in Hollywood. For it to be marketable it must be all about the main actress; that is how the average Joe wants it.

>>14931990
No the fact that they chose something besides Laughing Man or the Puppet Master.

I honestly don't mind them doing something different, I would have hated it to be a straight up retelling of the movie or something.

>>14931970
He's probably right about the origin story thing though. The thing about Hollywood is that you've just got to have some kind of personal drama going regardless of the situation. Also romance sub-plot. Those two elements are there more often than not.

The latest Godzilla films are the best contrast of this mindset.
>Annozilla: it's a major event, so you have a huge cast, an overarching view of things, how multiple parties react to the situation etc
>Legendzilla: camera follows some bloke who coincidentally ends up wherever zilla is all the time; half the film is about this bloke's personal drama

So yeah, while it's true the rest are still speculations, going by Hollywood's track records, there are some firm bets to go with.

>>14932001
I was only referring to the fact that Laughing Man can be done in a single film and does not need more set up. It is just an excuse

>No the fact that they chose something besides Laughing Man or the Puppet Master.
You mean they repurposed some script and said no guys it is totally GiTS look we made a scene look similar. Sure an original story could be great, this isn't looking to be some new really out there sci-fi story though. In which case I'd happily take a complete retread

>>14932001
>something different
it's basically that one episode of 2nd GIG when the Major gets lost in the city and explores her memories of the past

>>14932004
>The thing about Hollywood is that you've just got to have some kind of personal drama going regardless of the situation. Also romance sub-plot.
Pretty much

People don't always respond to something just exploring ideas, they can but it is a risk and studios hate risks these days. Personal drama you get everyone, from people shipping on tumblr to soccer moms. I want to know who I am is easier to sell than I was made into a cyborg as a child and feel I have lost connection to the world, despite them actually being similar

>>14932011
I thought they were throwing more shit in?

>>14930014
>Hey, it's me Scarlett Johansson from your favorite capeshit movies, I know you don't care about GitS but watch it because i'm the lead role in it.
How low has Jewllywood fallen to put this at the start of the trailer?

>>14932064
Just watch the other trailer
>>14931961
>>14931918
And then just think of this as the trailer.

>>14931985
Eh, I would argue that the Major, depending on how you approach her, works as the ultimate case study for how these things affect an individual, due to the extent of her cyberization and how it brings into question the boundary between the body and the mind.

>>14931918
>build artificial body
>it's ugly
Why did they cast Scarjew again?

>>14931655
>Corporations are more powerful than the government
>I don't know which side I'm even on
>Rioting in the streets have intensified to the point we might not be able to contain it
>You can't stop the future
>Police have opened fire on the crowds

File: 1445297495103.png (2MB, 800x1143px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 800x1143px

>>14932118
Maybe that marvel recognition money?

>>14931926
No, but here's a clip with Mamoru Oshii on the movie set, probably wishing he was dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Tlz8DKyNM

>>14932118
I think she's hot.

>>14932118
>Pointy elbows, 2/10

>>14932132
Didn't Oshii go on record that he liked it.

>>14932138
She has a crooked nose, lumpy jawline, and a bimbo stare. And I'm sure her elbows are pointy.

>>14931926
>Implying Shirow is a real person

>>14932144
I'm sure he did. He kinda had to.

>>14932144

Because he's gonna say he thinks it sucks and don't go see it after they paid him.

>>14932159
I mean if he did talk shit they would not have shown that he said anything.

>>14930894
proves you can make a master piece of sci fi using practical effects instead of weighing it down with CGI

File: ghost psx.jpg (698KB, 941x1280px) Image search: [Google]

698KB, 941x1280px

maybe the obligatory video game tie in will be good.

though Im not hopeful.

>>14932275
Tie in games are a dying breed.

>>14932275
https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/797737468799815680
Kojima GITS game pls

>>14932303

Kojima made MGS2 which was better than GiTS.

>>14932303

>Kojima and Oshii working together

It would literally have the least naturalistic dialogue of all time.

>>14930063
Wait, back up. There was a live-action Kite?

>>14932317

It was released DTV, had all the sex cut out and co-starred Sam L Jackson.

It was barely a movie.

>>14932315

Neither of those guys are Tomino.

>>14932327

No, but Kojima and Oshii's quirks would compliment each other pretty well.

>75 hours of nearly-static shots of people discussing philosophy broken up by by anime fights where people discuss genetic destiny

>>14932339
Oh my god, why have they not worked together before? Its like a match made in Outer Heaven.

>>14932339
Meanwhile, people desperately try not to go to the bathroom nor fall asleep.

>>14932339
Basset hounds wearing JF Rey glasses.

>>14931991
True. For example, Dredd didn't have personal drama between the protagonists and the antogonists. Character drama was mostly on a Rookie earning her chops, and not any personal vendetta.
And Dredd tanked. No way will hollywood try something like that for GitS.

>>14932407
My thoughts exactly. Adding to that, at no point in the movie did Dredd take his helmet off, which is a huge no-no in Hollywood since star actors' faces need to be exposed, source material faithfulness or not.

>>14930844
>Race/ethncity is the defining trait of an android's appearance rather than how real it looks
>Cultural appropriation being used as a scapegoat for main character not being portrayed by Asian waifu

>>14932407
>>14932410

But people fucking loved Dredd.
Dredd's problem was that it had no marketing whatsoever.

>>14932412

ScarJo being called "Makoto Kusanagi" will sound stupid no matter how hard people try to defend it.

Edgge of Tomorrow was smart enough to give everyone white names. Liman and MacQuarrie knew you can't have Tom Cruise walk around with an Asian name and expect people to take it seriously.

>>14932416
Strangely, they shuffled around the power ranger races but not their names

>>14930014
It does have a bit of a "fake Japan" feel to it but that in itself is (while not a GitS trope) a cyberpunk trope so that's okay I guess.

Aside from that and Johannson looking silly and calling herself "the major" it actually doesn't look TOO bad. At least they actually seem to be trying to make a GitS movie instead of the usual Hollywood "steal the name and turn everything else into generic shit".

File: gits.jpg (35KB, 600x357px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 600x357px

>>14932416

MO

TO

KO

It's been decades. How are you assholes still making this mistake.

>>14932413
It would have helped if it had a tie-in game, at least.

>>14932412
>>14930844
I do think that whitewashing is daft but at the same time I can't help but feel vaguely offended, as a Japanese myself, at the sheer arrogance of the Asian-American community and how they claim that race alone determines culture.

Their shallow attempts to take claim of Japanese culture time and again are far closer to cultural appropriation than Hollywood's stupid bullshit.

And do note how I stated Asian-American, not Japanese-American, because in many cases they aren't even Japanese.

>>14932423

And Blade Runner was Hong Kong as fuck but Harrison Ford wasn't running around pretending he was Chinese.

> At least they actually seem to be trying to make a GitS movie instead of the usual Hollywood "steal the name and turn everything else into generic shit".

But that's exactly what they're doing. You're being taking in by superficial references to key moments in the series.

>>14932416
>>14932425
And? Name has nothing to do with nationality when the person being portrayed isn't even a real human. Do you really think that if scientists in Japan managed to create a lifelike robot that they would call it John Smith simply because it didn't look Japanese?

>>14932437

It's real-world dissonance. Watching some white lady walking around with a super-Jap name is incongruous.

> scientists in Japan

You mean that white French lady she was talking to in the trailer?

File: member.jpg (31KB, 630x630px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 630x630px

>>14932437

The issue is that since ScarJo does not look Japanese calling her a Japanese name stands out like a sore thumb.

If you're gonna make an American GITS just make an American GITs. The show is about it's themes not its names so copying the names just for mass appeal is lazy.

the GITs world is huge. If this was just some different anti cyber terrorism group dealing with the issues the work is about then no one would really be complaining but as it is we just got a shitty call for nostalgia and brand name recognition.

>>14932437
>Do you really think that if scientists in Japan managed to create a lifelike robot that they would call it John Smith simply because it didn't look Japanese?

They wouldn't call it John Smith because it'd definitely be a woman.

But as a matter of fact they probably would give it a western name if it looked western, yes.

File: rinko-kikuchi-pacific-rim-1[1].jpg (53KB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 800x600px

>>14932450
I would have used Rinko for the Major's Japanese body and mental image/cyber avatar.

Making ScarJo just a remote body she is using.

>>14932456

Would be a much better choice but Scarjo has Avengers appeal and who cares about proper casting.

>>14932461
beware, a million posts shall follow saying that Rinko can't speak english.

>>14932456
But they're also making this film for Japan, and Japan loves ScarJo and hates Kikuchi.

>>14932462
She can't act in Japanese either.

>>14932465
She was fine in PacRim and 47 ronin.

>>14932479
いや、日本語の台詞が棒読みだって言いたい

>>14931378
Transcendence was interesting, not really pretentious, but inescapably boring. Good idea, good setting, horrible actors and a flipped script that tried to make up for itself by making human badguys in the form of those reprobate hippies. So many issues in an easy to fuck up story.

>>14932479
Did you ignore the part of PR where only Ibris Elba could act?

>>14932479

47 Ronin was one of the worst movies I saw that year.

File: jsrwoof.png (191KB, 781x497px) Image search: [Google]

191KB, 781x497px

>>14930014
Not familiar with this Scarlet lady but she doesn't make a convincing Motoko. Batou looks weird too. I think I'll pass.

>>14930014
My expectations for the movie are low, but I'm willing to give this a look at least. It could be one of three things:

1. An Edge of Tomorrow sorry, I meant LIVE. DIE. REPEAT. where they are able to tell the core of the story even with the changes to the outer shell

2. An I, Robot, where they take the name and broad thematic strokes all the while not even bothering to adapt the stories themselves

3. Dragonball. Oh sweet mercy.

At the very least, the trailer has piqued my interest, so I'll be watching it. Here's hoping that the movie is better than it looked.

>>14932594
most people think aeon flux tier

>>14932599

Aeon Flux is a bad movie I still enjoy for what it is.

I'd be alright with another one like that.

>>14932599
Oh sweet mercy.

>>14932594
Im ok with all of those. Even dragon ball i can get a laugh at.

>>14932612
I couldn't.

Er, we're talking Evolution, right? Anyways I doubt this will be anywhere that bad.

>>14932621
To be fair. I was drunk watching evolution.

>>14932625
>I was drunk watching evolution
>drunk
Hell I was drunk and that made BvS a somewhat mediocre experience, then I watched it again sober. It was fucking awful.

Now go watch Evolution again, I seriously doubt you will laugh. Yeah of course you would come back and say "Yeah I totally laughed, it was so bad it was funny" but we will all know it was a lie.

File: 1445380449233.jpg (453KB, 1000x750px) Image search: [Google]

453KB, 1000x750px

>>14932599
>Aeon Flux tier

File: bvs.gif (3MB, 800x352px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 800x352px

>>14932678
>comparing batman vs superman to dragonball evolution
See, I don't really give a shit about Batman movies anymore.

>>14932686
I was just comparing them as shit movies that had alcohol to help dull the terribleness of the film.

File: Tvsfrankwx4.jpg (24KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 480x360px

>>14932549

Batou looks like TV's Frank

>>14931918
If I had seen this first, I definitely would have been more optimistic about the movie. I mean, it's not a guarantee that the movie would be better than expected, but it's a start.

>>14932725
Oh motherfucker. I knew Batou looked familiar!

>>14931944
>pays some homage to the source material but really has minimal to do with it

But thats how the GITS franchise works. This could be good or bad but since there's no canon, it can at least do whatever it wants without shitting over what came before. I think some of the decisions are dumb, but I care much less about things like their racial meddling than I care about it being a decent movie.

Still hoping for some Fuchikoma / Tachikoma / Logikoma / something-koma action in the movie too.

>>14931794
She's a cyborg. She could have been born a man. Her aesthetic choice for a body doesn't necessarily have to line up with how she was born.

>>14930104
>motoko refers to herself as the major

File: 1479100692922.jpg (31KB, 471x500px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 471x500px

>>14930014
ScarJo is fat. FAT

>>14932893
>this is DUH MAJOR

wuuuuuut

>>14930014
>dumb it down with muh stolen identity

not gits.
much like how arise is naruto.

>>14932896
Oh hell yes

>>14932896
>very fat Mayor flying at incredible speed.jpg

>>14931970
>No Tachikomas
>Wow, I did not know the movie was already released.

>hollywood movie trailer
>not putting the zanny mascot character front and center

Le toppest keks.

File: 12165498456.png (164KB, 953x535px) Image search: [Google]

164KB, 953x535px

Does anyone have the pic of that one anon kindly explaining his take on GitS? It was a pretty neat/informative review. Someone posted it in the thread the other day when the trailer was first teased and I'm bummed I didn't save it when I had the chance.

File: 1478560264075.png (2MB, 1624x4132px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1624x4132px

>>14933073
> Calls an opinion piece informative
> Doesn't use the archive

>tfw atsuko tanaka and akio otsuka will do the dub

>>14932792
>racial meddling

Not this shit

>>14931985 >>14932084
Problem : a case study is to be shown in a neutral way, but we no know it will be a story centered around her "unique of her kind".
And Hollywood can't do analysis on topic they probably didn't understand themselves.
They paid scarljo a lot to be here, so she'll be a super cyborg-ninja fighting a conspiracy and attract people who otherwise wouldn't know what a Ghost and a Shell is and so on.

We will be blessed if they even imply the idea that in that universe Scarlet brain could be swapped between body. (Imagine the fuzz if they implied she could be transfered into a male body with no difference)

>>14932144
I bet you it is a clause of the contract : "Don't say anything that could harm the movie"

>>14932437
>Do you really think that if scientists in Japan managed to create a lifelike robot that they would call it John Smith simply because it didn't look Japanese?
This is a cyborg body, the person using it is Japanese.
Sure they could rekon it easily since the body is 100% artificial, but we all know Hollywood do it because of cultural appropriation. It will be a miracle they didn't totally Americanize the stuff

>>14932084
My worry is that the Major's personal existential crisis gets glossed over in favor of "THEY LIED TO YOU"

which on the one hand, the militarization of the police and the influence of corporations and the loss of value of the individual could be explored through that route,

But comparing the Verhoeven Robocop to the modern remake I very much doubt their ability to tackle such a topic properly

>>14933210
>unique
I really hope they only mean that she's the first law enforcement military-spec cyborg, not the first full body cyborg entirely.

Because otherwise half the fun of the GitS world is lost.

File: Punch yourself I command you.gif (864KB, 268x150px) Image search: [Google]

864KB, 268x150px

I'll find it disappointing if they don't try to put that scene somewhere.

File: 1337375240161.jpg (141KB, 717x1086px) Image search: [Google]

141KB, 717x1086px

original

>>14933220
I want to pet the floof

>>14931655
Yeah, it did reminded a lot of Arise.
That might explain the hair style.
>>14932128
>Rioting in the streets have intensified to the point we might not be able to contain it

Why contain it?
It'scool!

>>14933220
>left to right
???

>>14933417
It's from the Dark Horse print.

This trailer makes me worried. It seems like a full origin story, where Section 9 isn't even around and the Major is still very hesitant about being a cyborg and not just treating it like an everyday part of her life.

And Scarlet Johannson's voice reminds me very unpleasantly of Lucy, that shitty movie where she was a super-genius assassin with no emotions. She has no range to her voice and no ability to act when she's in monotone mode.

>>14930014
jesus the art direction is terrible, its trying so hard to look like the movies, going so far as to lift some scenes off but they all look pretty meh

>>14933457

It's more that ScarJo seems to become a worse and worse actress as time goes on.

>>14933465
It feels like an adaptation of Blade Runner more than an adaptation of GiTS. I guess I can see the similarities between some of the set design and establishing shots to GiTS 1, rather than SAC or GiTS 2, but it gives the whole movie a feeling that rather than this cyborgization and such being the norm and the challenge being to keep the peace in such a society, it is instead just a cyberpunk knockoff about
>Oh no I've got a robot body, am I still human???

I was pretty fucking pissed at that geisha scene. It started out looking like it was copying the seen from SAC, and then they had a bunch of suited assassins walk in. Like, why? The geisha robots were already there, making a bunch of meatbags do the assassinating just defeats the purpose of the whole thing. The entire point was that robots are ubiquitous, but because of that they can also be dangerous in the wrong hands. Now it's just referencing it in order to lead to a Matrix-standard Hollywood action scene.

>>14930681

I'm just wondering why they're showing her slowmo running around naked in that gunfight than using the thermoptics through it. It would have made a better impact visually and character wise.

>>14933110
That was a good read.

>>14933467
It's more over exposure, so what she does starts to blend together a lot. Not helped by similar roles which is possibly cause of lack of range

>>14933472
Once again, it is probably because they think dumb people would be confused by it

Also her being visible makes for a better trailer shot as they can go look there she

>>14933457
>She has no range to her voice

Reminder that she released a CD of Tom Waits songs she tried to cover.

>>14930014
Batou doesn't look that bad tbqh. I'd stil watch it, but of course it'd be silly of me to expect a 1:1 adaption.

>>14930014
this is Ghost in the Shells's Other M

>>14930160
>>>/tv/

>>14931041
into something pretentious

>>14933324
Old men
WARNING
WARNING

>>14933481
But she's not even good in these roles where she's expected to be some killer robot. Like in Lucy, that was just so utterly shit I walked out about 30 minutes in.

>>14933552

Lucy was such an incredibly terrible movie that by the end I was seriously rooting for the Korean drug dealers.

>>14933552
>he took the Luc Besson film seriously

First rule of Luc Besson is never take his films seriously, even a good one like Fifth Element is dumb as rocks.

>>14933573

Fifth Element was dumb and entertaining.
Lucy was dumb and boring.

>>14932621
>DB Evolution
that has to be the absolute fucking worst film ever made

>>14933324
>>14933550
I wonder if the Helios ending was inspired by GitS.

>>14933554
Were they actually from Best Korea?

>>14933625

No, they were clearly South Korean mafia.

File: 1479104455189.jpg (53KB, 600x393px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 600x393px

The worst part of this is that there's not a single bit of Shirow influence in the whole damn thing.
Not even a single Seburo gun design for fucks sake.

>>14933681
That looks so cool.

Think I'll just watch SAC and 2nd Gig again.

>>14933485

Man fuck that. I'd gone full predator if we were fucking the material anyway. Flickers of movement and only the damage of her weight on the walls and floor showing where she is as people drop makes a good impression of her power for the ADHD.

>>14933681
people barely knew the anime was adapted by a manga

File: CxI6824UAAAdd35.jpg (149KB, 800x1199px) Image search: [Google]

149KB, 800x1199px

>>14930014
Oshii an Komjinba works when?

>>14933965
Just add basset hounds to Death Stranding and call it a day

File: 1479143814194.jpg (488KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

488KB, 1920x1080px

>>14934005
>"what do cities in ghost in the shell even look like?"
>"i don't fukken know, just composite some gook holograms onto manhattan and call it a day"

so tell me, which one will be the worst? this or the power rangers movie?

File: project_2501_4443.jpg (34KB, 400x562px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 400x562px

>>14932456
I would have had ScarJo be project 2501.

I don't think Rink would make a good major, people are just suggesting her because she's the only Japanese Actress they can think of off the top of their heads, but honestly, I think some random pornstar would be better.

At any rate, judging from the trailers, they aren't even playing ScarJo to her strengths, which is being a stone cold killer.

File: comment_blgKwHkNo3rL63PQX74Is85mkblT1eAn[1].jpg (177KB, 807x460px) Image search: [Google]

177KB, 807x460px

>>14934014

>>14934010
Power Rangers, easily. Have you seen the fucking Megazord?

File: 1479140965283.jpg (30KB, 432x639px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 432x639px

JUST

>>14934025
R U A MAJER?

File: 300px-Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg (13KB, 300x200px) Image search: [Google]

13KB, 300x200px

>>14934021
>mfw she is now doing sexy but shitty soap operas in germany and is never coming back

>>14934025
>we ran out of budget so just hold these water bottle caps in place with your brow

>>14934045
>maybe we shouldnt have spent 60% of the budget on getting scarjo for starpower marketing

>>14930014
I had to stop watching at the moment when the awkward exposition dialogue began. "First of your kind" and all that. The lazy matrix garbage was already bad enough, but golly.

File: maxresdefault.jpg (61KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

61KB, 1280x720px

What if Motoko's body gets destroyed at the end in the tank scene and they Re-cast Motoko for the next film really showing that her physical form isn't a constant

>>14934255
do we even know if they gonna have the tank scene?

>>14934255
unlikely

>>14930457
I still wish we had gotten a Jacket vs Jacket battle or more scenes of Jacket soldiers kicking ass.

>>14934023
They've shown it?

File: 1478495113925.jpg (191KB, 1200x1126px) Image search: [Google]

191KB, 1200x1126px

>>14934389
Spoilered for graphic content

>>14933457
>and the Major is still very hesitant about being a cyborg and not just treating it like an everyday part of her life.

It's not even that. They're treating this like it's not part of the every day setting.

>>14934021
>hammer jaw
No

The Major also has upturned almond eyes, so you'd need a Eurasian actress

File: seburo m5.jpg (332KB, 1600x1137px) Image search: [Google]

332KB, 1600x1137px

>>14933698
Its literally a toy glock with some plastic shit glued on.

>>14934526
And?

>>14933573
>Fifth Element
That was actually dumb in an entertaining way. And even though the movie was dumb, the actors were fun to watch. A movie being bad is no excuse for an actor being bad.

>>14934398
What the hell, that seems more like an enemy's mech.

File: Seburoc26a.jpg (79KB, 923x584px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 923x584px

>>14934538
So it lacks the rounded semi-organic aesthetic of Shirow's designs, or the detailed near future logic of the movies and SAC/SAC 2nd GIG's gun designs.
Its just really lazy and looks cheap.

>>14934835
>being a Seburo shill this hard

Fucking worse than the Kalash Concern fanbois.

>>14934526
>toy glock with some plastic shit glued on
so in other words, a glock?

File: erica.jpg (8KB, 199x253px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 199x253px

I keep watching this trailer over and over again. I've seen it around 30 times at this point, and it keeps looking better and better. I'm getting hyped, which I know I shouldn't be getting.

I wish scarjo wouldn't play the major the way she's shown in the trailer, she's too cold I think. But that could be the fault of the director.

Am I missing something? I don't think the movie deserves the hate its been getting based off this trailer alone.

>>14935139
>Am I missing something?

Yeah, a brain.

>>14931794
because jews.

she is a jew, hollywood is run by jews. the jews only care about ticket sales. so they cast names that they think will put butts in seats.

>>14934810

Nigga that's the new Megazord

>>14935273
Yes, and I'm saying it looks more like it's for the enemy's. What's so difficult to understand?

>>14931041
IF I WAS INVISIBLE (invisible, invisible)
I COULD JUST WATCH YOU IN YOUR ROOM

>>14933549
pretentious doesn't mean what you think it means

>>14935360

I didn't think GiTS was pretentious.

But GiTS: Innocence... that was pretentious.

File: 1479178383511.jpg (119KB, 940x486px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 940x486px

>>14930363

>>14934014
>I think some random pornstar would be better.
That or a dancer.

>>14933110
Insight is thumbsupemoji. This kind of thing really needs to be academic paper length, though. Like Motoko in that suit, he needs more support. And I'm not convinced that his inability to be convinced about the film's feminist (humanist, w/e) bent is genuinely based on an earnest read of the film itself and not his biases. I would call GITS inadvertently feminist, not so much in that it's promoting female empowerment as it is concerned with breaking through the gendered conceits of society.

Motoko is a brain. Brains can be subtly male or female, but fundamentally (and especially removed from the endocrine system) they're not gendered. Using a powerful main character that appears female throughout is a good way rip us out of cliche and get us questioning. I suppose radfems might disagree, but there are a lot of feminists who just want recognition of an equal humanity with men. When you reduce people to brains in jars and then give them interchangeable jars with boobies, that about does it.

>>14933220
forever bestoko

>>14935540
>And I'm not convinced that his inability to be convinced about the film's feminist (humanist, w/e) bent is genuinely based on an earnest read of the film itself and not his biases.

I think he made a good point, comparing it to the action scenes in all. The fact that Motoko's female is only subversive on a surface level.

Although I will admit that the character and themes wouldn't be nearly as memorable if she weren't, or at least didn't appear, female.

>>14934255
That would assume they care for both the topic and creativity.
They don't, else they wouldn't be adapting/copying someone else idea and shoehorning the super-heroes origin story they have been hammering for years.

>>14935540
>When you reduce people to brains in jars and then give them interchangeable jars with boobies

You got GITS completely backwards. Motoko is not a brain in a jar with tits. GITS actually emphasizes her womanhood and motherhood and puts it at the forefront of the story. The reason she is chosen to merge with the AI (which has an unmistakable male voice) is because she is the only one on the team that is a female (you never wondered why that was?). GITS is an exploration of what motherhood means in a future where childbearing is complicated by the presence of both artificial bodies and artificial life. The film doesn't go through the pains of showing Motoko's naked body on multiple occassions because it is irrelevant, but the to continually remind you that Motoko is still a woman despite all the artificiality. If you remove Motoko's femininity then it COMPLETELY changes the story and its themes. GITS is not "inadvertently feminist" for it is not feminist at all.

>>14932407
It wasn't Hollywood though. It was a British/South African production.

>>14936008
>which has an unmistakable male voice

Not in 2.0 ;}

>>14934008
That looks fucking awful.

>>14934847
Seburo is love, Seburo is life.

>>14934008
>Well, we have seen Akira too you know.

File: 1448576529767.jpg (143KB, 780x718px) Image search: [Google]

143KB, 780x718px

>>14932306
>Kojima made MGS2 which was better than GiTS.

>>14936615
Anon is right GitS doesn't have Fatman

>>14930014
hope the soundtrack is good

>>14936008
What you've just described is an intrinsically feminist work, though, particularly in a world where the default is to not really give a shit about a woman's struggle with her individuality in the face of an unconcerned world.

Though I suppose it could be said that the ultimate focus is on the product of her femininity (a child), a reduction that is surprisingly conservative despite the film's other themes.

It's up for interpretation. I like that.

>>14930014
Did they make Scarlet put on weight?

>>14934008
Yeah, what's with the fuckhuge holograms? wtf

>that fucking argument with ZerogunRivale in the comment section

My fucking eyes, what the shit.

File: One Times Square.jpg (194KB, 800x1380px) Image search: [Google]

194KB, 800x1380px

>>14936860
I'm sure commercial-grade hologram projection technology is part of the tech tree prerequisites for active camouflage.

Just imagine there's a fleet of quadrotor drones behind it all.

File: 1337246322953.jpg (587KB, 1500x2084px) Image search: [Google]

587KB, 1500x2084px

>>14936008
To me you are the one who go GitS (Oshii's 1st) backward. If I didn't knew better I would think you are baiting.

There really was nothing about "motherhood", the topic was the nature of conscience and at no point was it question of procreation in the original meaning.
The major (which could have been a man or using a man body) fusing with the puppet master was to create a new "species" out of a doomed one (the original puppet master which could only clone itself) and a individual who didn't felt human anymore.
The reason the major was chosen as explained here >>14933110 has nothing to do with her gender, it's because the two entity simply though completely alike.

Reminder : the result of that fusion is someone with the memory of Motoko Kusanagi and the though process of project 2501. You can barely call it a child if you assume that Motoko and project 2501 are now "dead", which is precisely the sort of notion that became meaningless thanks to technology.

> tl,dr
The only reason Motoko Kusanagi is a woman is because Shirow Masamune is being himself.

>>14936912

>that pic

JUST

>>14936912
Not seeing much difference

>>14931914

>when Ghost in the Shell's world is in that phase where cyborg tech is genuinely everywhere and she's not the only "full cyborg" person on the planet.

There's a scene in the original movie (the one with the ferry and all the shots of the city) where The Major briefly locks eyes with someone who has the exact same model body as her. It's a genuinely fascinating/surprising moment and serves to illustrate that she -isn't- unique and a lot of her fears about possibly not being who or what she thinks she is are justified.

I don't think we'll be seeing any of that here.

>>14937787
I think we will, even if it is a bit nonsensical for this movie

My problem is more that just making it about memories is really a downgrade. The idea that your whole life you know could be a lie, is much scarier than just not knowing your past. Especially cause the first makes forming a sense of self much more difficult and the focus, rather than just find the past that informs and is the solution.

Changes like that which would seem little to some can have profound differences

File: 1471844575103.jpg (155KB, 850x620px) Image search: [Google]

155KB, 850x620px

>>14930771
Okay, so what the fuck did this guy actually do? It's been so long since I've watched 2nd GIG, but all I remember is a bunch of build-up with no pay off and then he gets riddled by the Major.

Kuze did loads more in the grand scheme of things throughout the season. I'm sure he did something significant, I just can't fucking remember.

is 2nd GIG better than the SAC?

>>14937848
SAC has a better mystery, but 2nd Gig has more drama, more action, bigger stakes, all that fun sequel stuff. And one of the most satisfying headshots in the history of anime.
Fucking watch it, nigger.

>>14937847
He manipulated public opinion of both natives and fugitives towards segregation between the japanese and non-japanese to further a more nationalistic and powerful Japan.

I just don't understand why I should watch this instead of the brilliantly animated movies.
Live action movies are way too limited anyway.

>>14937960
Because cartoons are for children. Are you a child? Then why are you watching cartoons?

File: 1475339386314.png (195KB, 417x578px) Image search: [Google]

195KB, 417x578px

>>14937960
>Live action movies are way too limited anyway.

>>14937988
He's not wrong, though. Sure, CGI's gotten better at bringing fiction to life, but look how much of the story is usually lost in these adaptions. Hell, live action can't even adapt live action without losing something for the sake of "updating" the narrative.

>>14938360
Live action is only limited by the things that limit animation (budget, competency, directorial influence).
Not to mention there are certain subjects and genres that live action excel at compared to animation, such as horror.

I actually really want to see this and I hate most modern movies. Considering I only like the GOS movie and hated the show, when I saw the 1:1 scenes from the original movie in the trailer I was hyped as fuck.

Really the only thing I'm worried about is johansen. She's a horrible actor and her face does not fit this role

>>14938367
*GITS

>>14938360
>>14938366
I'm still waiting for an animated work with slightly realistic relationships and interaction.

>>14938367
I'd be curious to hear what you hated about the show. Seems like the most loved version, even if you didn't care for the first movie. I'm sitting at curbed enthusiasm for the live action movie.

>>14938410
>I'm still waiting for an animated work with slightly realistic relationships and interaction.
King of the Hill.

>>14938420
I like this anon. I actually highly enjoy that show.

am curious, considering this movie revolves around the Kuze story.

>>14931954
>no Individual Eleven
It's confirmed to be dealing with Kuze

>>14933422
can't wait for the reprints next year.
the movie can be shit for all I care, as long as I get the manga.

>>14938467
They don't have to adapt the entire storyline to use him.

So someone explain to me the stand alone series

What's SSS and 2nd Gig

Perhaps we will get rereleases of the SAC stuff on blu-ray; I mean, they did it for Godzilla

>>14938566
In the criminal justice system, cyber based crime is particularly difficult to investigate. In Neo Tokyo, the dedicated detectives who investigate these increasingly complex felonies are members of an elite squad known as Public Security Section 9.

These are their stories.
*DONK DONK*

>>14938566
But for real: SAC, 2nd Gig and SSS are all a linear run of the Section 9 team with some time breaks between each one. The show is serialized, so there's an over arching plot with occasional isolated story episodes. SAC is season one, following the Laughing Man hacker who held a hostage in the middle of a massive crowd of street commuters: however cyberization is very common and anyone nearby had their eyes hacked and never saw the man's face.

The second season is a fair bit more complex, dealing with a refugee crisis in Japan, and the onset of a group calling themselves the Individual Eleven. The Individual Eleven seem to fight for recognition of the largely forgotten refugees, among them is Kuze: a charismatic man galvanized by the past he admires.

SSS is barely a massive reworking of the original movie in a few ways, but ultimately it just a SAC movie. It just seems like a big enough idea for a movie was still left over, but too complex to inject it into the already thick show.

>>14932465
Why do they hate Rinko?

>>14938827
She doesn't do anything most Japanese celebs tend to get known doing. She does smaller scale stuff. Her biggest movie is her playing a deaf highschooler. Her English speaking domain works are easily more popular, and most of them aren't on anyone's radar.... Pacific Rim, Babel (complete with nude scenes), and 47 Ronin. She just passable at best, and just happened to find work outside of Japan.

>>14933614
Damm sure it is.

File: 1479282978051.jpg (1MB, 2817x4200px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2817x4200px

>>14932896
Absolute shit casting

>>14938482
I might have to pick up a new edition; my Dark Horse GITS prints are flipped (which is odd because all my other Shirow manga published by Dark Horse is normal).

>>14938968
NOT MY MOTOKO!