Hiro is asking for input from boards about how they specifically

Add flags so the spic can be identified easily

>>14733061
Is there anything we really need changed?
I wouldn't mind it if snapshit was banned, and I'd prefer for garbage threads to be deleted. For example, a thread simply saying "Zeta is shit" is a garbage thread. It doesn't say anything about Zeta, or why it's shit. However that's a slippery slope to banning opinions.

>>14733066

We need better mods, and to permanently ban snapshit

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>>14733061
Pic related is from the last time rules were negotiated for this board. There's an express mention of the rules not being up for debate, so that might be part of where it comes from.

Slow boards like this don't really need anything changed imo, they moderate themselves well enough in that if a thread is shit, the 30 people browsing the board at the moment just won't post in it and it'll die soon enough

I can't think of any new rules or policies that need to be put into place here

Remove tokushit

>>14733123
This is another part of why the rules discussion was a no-no - because some people are still prejudiced against toku, and plenty more troll about it.

>>14733061
By banning the Lazy Matsumoto shitposter

>>14733061
Why is there no sticky on this board?

>>14733114
the most important thing is "report it and move on"
we always need that back

>>14733182
This would be good. Get a sticky and sticky one of those /m/ reccomends charts and info for newfags. Explain what is and isn't /m/

>>14733199
Threads like "Is this /m/?" "Now that the dust has settled..." and anything that has "Zeekwank" in the OP should be auto-deleted too.

choosing to not respond to obvious trolling would be neat, too

>>14733182
>>14733199
fuck no.

stickies are the worst.

>>14733233
Please explain this reasoning.

>>14733237
I don't want to spend my time on /m/ looking at the same shitty fan-made charts forever, and just to note, I made one of these charts. They were made for the moment, not for the eternal stickies.

If you want to get recs, I'd prefer if you make a thread and ask /m/ directly.

And fucking lurk more.

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>>14733249
Yeah I don't think a sticky with recs would be a good idea. As an example Ultraman gets subs for whole series out of nowhere at once. The guides end up out of date too quickly (and >OPINIONS) to really be useful, especially considering how it'll probably take forever to get them changed out

But one with more basic purposes like a locked "report it and shut up just dont respond" or an open one that starts with "report it and shut up just dont respond" and then people can post links to downloads there, or the social fagging can go there, or whatever might not hurt.

we really should expand /m/ to other scifi shit

>>14733284
No fuck off

>>14733540

Yes, fuck on

>>14733604
Maybe, fuck in

>>14733284
Ehhhhhh. I don't know.

On one end I admit I do like work of the not strictly /m/ stuff posts here but I do think it should remain mostly /m/

>>14733614

We allow stuff that is, really, tangentially mecha. Like toku. And Godzilla. And Galaxy Express and Yamato. /m/ is pretty much already "weeaboo sci-fi"

>>14733182
Fuck no. The /mu/ sticky still makes me mad.

>>14733629
> /m/ is pretty much already "weeaboo sci-fi"
>weeaboo sci-fi
>weeaboo
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means


Turning /m/ into 'sci-fi' would be a horrible idea because then you'd create a rift between real and super factions where the former would claim the latter shouldn't be on /m/. Granted Toku is already stretching it as is where their Generals are now just cesspools of shitposting and /tv/ waifu fagging when they don't leak out to the rest of the board.

Ignoring the giant question of what constitutes as /m/ since that will land us into an endless debate. What /m/ needs to improve things is more diligent moderation, 'Report and ignore' will never, ever be an effective means of increasing quality. and utilize word filters for overused terms that get spammed, like moot did in the good old days and like Hiro at least attempted to with the ebonics twitter terms that are still being spammed today by newfags who don't know about the filter.

>>14733284
What sci-fi do we not cover? We allow Trek, we allow Star Wars, Doctor Who on occasion. Pretty much anything with space ships and any kind of mechanized anything. Unless you want to add the Brave New Worlds and YA dystopias to that mix, but that's mostly /tv/ and /lit/. At least Kamen Rider is japanese cyborgs and Super Sentai has giant robots.

>>14734582

Yeah he should wordfilter G-Reco to "garbage"

>>14735720
Honestly, I think that, barring some of the threads that pop up here and there, /m/ seems to be relatively better off than some of the other boards around.

>>14734582
>What /m/ needs to improve things is more diligent moderation
EVERY BOARD needs better moderation, especially the big ones (/vg/ worst of all since it's basically fifty forums crunched together in a massive clusterfuck). They need to hire a whole bunch of people, what we have now is just depressingly ineffective.

>>14735720
Honestly, I'd rather have a good discussion about something barely related than on-topic shitposting.

>>14735760

/vg/ should be removed entirely. It is actually worse than reddit.

>>14733066
>I wouldn't mind it if snapshit was banned
>>14733106
>permanently ban snapshit
Wait, are you talking the Tripfag, or straight assembly Gunpla?

Bring back clawshrimpy again.

>>14735773

Obviously the tripfag.

>>14735776
it should be an annual thing, like, for one weekend a year he gets unbanned, comes here and cries and everybody dogpiles him

We need better mods. That's the real root of the problem.

What would convince you that this is actually going to change anything and not just mook jerking us around for shits and giggles?

>>14733284
God no. It's already stretched thin enough with allowing toku and some Mahou Shoujo shows. And a good number of Sci-fi shows are already allowed. We don't need to make it that broad.

>>14735942

It already is that broad, just not officially.
I've considered making a GuP thread on /m/ and I think I could get away with it.

>>14735949
At the moment, those other shows only occasionally get threads. Once you make it official, people feel more confident about making thinly /m/ related threads all the time. That would not be good.

>>14735955

The thing is it already is that way. While making it official would open up the can of worms, the can of worms is already slowly opening by itself.

I think 2 things have to be done to save not just /m/, but all of 4chan.

1) Purging the mods and replacing them with better, board-specific mods

2) Killing General threads on sight outside of the containment board of /vg/

Hell I would support removing /vg/ because as was said before, the place is worse than reddit. Every general thread is basically a reddit only people have to keep the shitpost going so they feel compelled to post constantly in order to keep it alive.

I defy anyone on this board to take one look at FF14 General or Katawa Shoujo General and tell me that isn't unfiltered cancer.

>>14735974
>2) Killing General threads
Uh, what about the Gunpla General?
That kinda NEEDS an ongoing thread.

>>14735978

It's a small price to pay.

>>14735974
/vg/ is pure cancer, but it works like the toku generals on /m/. It's containment. Delete them and they won't move on, they'll just feel the need to spread their cancer to the rest of the boards instead.

>>14735983
>It's a small price to pay.
No, no it isn't, besides:

>>14735986
>/vg/ is pure cancer, but it works like the toku generals on /m/. It's containment.
Toku would go nuclear, no longer would you have one continuous thread, but at least one thread for EVERY EPISODE, more than likely 3-5 simultaneously because they no longer have a designated gathering place.

>>14735986

No, because now the tokushits feel like they have a place and sometimes they venture out onto the greater /m/ and shit it up with their memes.

I seriously believe General threads need to be met with zero tolerance and just slain wherever they are or it's going to be the end of 4chan. They are the worst threads by far and are basically little reddits. If generalshitters try to retaliate, ban them.

>>14736000

Then get some mods to prune the threads.Or ban toku from /m/ and take that shit to /tv/ or something. /tv/ has threads about Japanese and Korean shit all the time.

And there were daily threads about things on 4chan long, LONG before generals happened. It could be said that generals themselves evolved from those threads. When those threads died someone would pick up the slack a couple hours later, or the next day.

But somehow being called a "general" turns a thread cancerous. Makes people posting in it feel like it's got to be eternal, and builds its own community in there. That has to end. Again, look at /vg/. I predict that in a few years a third of the threads at any given time on any given board will be generals and then it's all over.

Can we ban the guy who spams "busterbeam" in every thread

>>14735761
Man how many threads is /ksg/ up to by now?

>>14736063
3157
Not joking.

>>14736063

3157

>>14736074
>>14736079
What the fuck. I was assuming somewhere in the 2000's. At this rate that general will outlive the heat death of the universe.

>>14736088

There's like 5 or 6 generals devoted to visual novels/dating Sims. They never fucking die. Generals also have chatrooms and shit.

Like I said, literally plebbit. Just kill them.

>>14736112
>Generals also have chat rooms and shit
I remember when someone made a discord channel here for the Gundam Breaker 3 General. What's the point of having a general if you're gonna hang out in a chatroom then?

>>14736148

And this is why generals must be eliminated.

For our blue and pure board.

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>>14736148
Well I assume the chat room is for where people who want names can go
while the general is where people who want to chat but stay anon can go
generals still somehow always get tripfags though even with a chat room
It's a containment bay for a containment bay essentially

>>14736171
The whole reasons generals became a thing was because people were annoyed at dozens of threads coming out every time a new episode aired.

>>14736378

Make it clear that people are to stick to one thread and check to see if there's a thread up before posting. Enforce with bans.

Generals were created because people decided to turn a blind eye to/enable retardation and now that retardation has spun off into something truly horrifying.

Permaban Snapshit, have a moderator who cares about /m/ and checks up on us every once in a while. Problem solved.

If /m/ needs a mod, then make me that man.

>>14736416
What are your qualifications

>>14736414
Of all the trip fags on the site, I think he's the only one I bothered to use a filter on. I didn't even filter clawshrimpy that week he got unbanned

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I know it's probably going to piss some people off, but I'd love to see a board exclusively for Kaiju. I don't know how popular it'd be, and I don't mind the kaiju threads on /m/, but they do get sort of drowned out because - let's face it - they're not meant to be posted on this board.

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Honestly I wish thread limits were made shorter, and spoonfeeding were to be made a bannable offense.
That's it.
I don't even care about snapcity as he's on my filter. Only idiots respond to that guy anyhow.

>>14736527

Don't care, as long as some idiots continue to respond to him, he will keep doing what he's doing. Guys like that need to just be destroyed.

This whole "ignore it" and "containment" method doesn't work unless every single person does it, meaning that it just straight up doesn't work. So we need mods who will stop it.

>>14736508

But then one could argue that kaiju and toku could share a board. And then one could argue kaiju/toku go in /tv/ or /jp/. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

>>14736527
>spoonfeeding were to be made a bannable offense.

Go back to /a/, you're the problem not the solution.

>>14736565
There has literally never been a single one of those images that I haven't been able to find on my own via the NUMEROUS reverse search engines, or the 4chan archives.
It's not elitism.
It's called not being a lazy shit.

Do you remember what it was like before those things existed?
I had to look up the source for images by describing what I saw on the picture. That was true hell. Spoonfeeding was a-okay then, and I used to do it all the time because of how hard it was to find source.

But nowadays everything can be found within a few clicks. Get off of 4chan if you're too stupid to even do a task as simple as that.

>>14736581
Pfft, tineye has been around for like ten years now.
But do kill spoonfeeding anyway.

Kill generals. Ban anyone who tries to post in them or create one. All they do is create a certain kind of shitposter.

Wordfilters for common shitposting; in particular "now that the dust has settled" and "what did X mean by Y" and all of the rest of the cancer that has leaked out of /v/ over time.

Ban obvious trolling: valvrager, spic, any thread involving seed or zeonwank or g-reco vs X or whatever.

Basically make the board as hostile as possible.

Give the webms sound.

>>14736074
>>14736079
Didn't the /ksg/ count get reset when it already had several hundred threads? So it's actually a lot higher?

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Ban this motherfucker. I rather doubt he actually committed suicide.

>>14736432
I love giant robots.

>>14736644
how much do you love them?

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>>14736644

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>>14736645

Some would say too much.

>>14733066
All the fucking

>(Vague statement)(bait)(a recent gundam)

They are occasionally good but mostly just shit posting fests

>>14736645
Love them enough.

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Rangeban Snapshit and his homosexual lover

Rangeban Beargguy spammer/DuelGundam2099/whatever his name is

Add something to the one official rule we have (All mecha and mecha-related (ex: pilots, core fighter, mecha girl, hobby model) images are allowed, if you don't remember what it is) to further embed Tokusatsu into the rules (Like just put power armor or kaiju or something). or at the very least put a more fleshed out version of >>14733114 into the rules.

Put out stickies for whenever a new Gundam/Macross/etc gets announced so that the catalog isn't flooded with threads on it. Like when we had stickies for Shin Mazinger and Gundam AGE


Seriously there's very little that needs fixing on /m/ compared to a board like /v/. It's just that our rules remain so vague after being around for over 10 years and that we have a few problem children/instigators that mods don't want to handle.

>>14736600
This, the few webm threads we have would be alot more interesting. I wouldn't care if they were 90% reposts, if they had sound it would be great

>>14736641
He didn't he just kind of left
>>14736711
>all this complaining
Dude you need a chill pill. Or a tictac. Or a mento.

>>14736711
>Beargguy spammer
Outside of the banner contest when was the last time anyone posted a Beargguy macro? Serious question.

>>14736711
>Rangeban Beargguy spammer/DuelGundam2099/whatever his name is
I would have made him a mod just to see what happens

>not one person brings up the Toho Kingdom talk in the Godzilla threads

>>14733061
Burn this place to the ground and start anew.

>>14736785
>he would likely ban Symphogear, Nanoha, and Vividred threads and force them back on /a/

I'm okay with that

>>14733233
I meant more like these are the rules kind of sticky. A short and simple one relating what's appropriate and what's not. That's it. That way new people know what's appropriate and what will get them banned.

>>14733233

But then how will I post my Osaka "posting in a sticky" image?

>>14736793
I want everyone to be "permanently banned" from 4chan, the boards reduced to their original count, and the postcounts returned to 0 for one whole week.
Maybe even force frames again.

>>>/qa/672650

Alright toku haters, this is your chance to get it off /m/!

>>14736835
i never understood why it was allowed in the first place. they barely have mechs at all.

>>14736835
fuck off

>>14736845
no

>>14736835
why

>>14736845
fuck on

>>14736848
fuck in

>>14736846
read
>>>/qa/672666

>>14736851
fuck out

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>>14736835
We've been over this hundreds of times, and toku is just as /m/ as Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who, or any other live-action show that gets discussed on here. If the countless "toku is not /m"/ threads back in the 2009-2011 era of /m/ didn't get it kicked out then nothing you say will.

>>14736852
lol2longdidntreed

>>14736857
everthing you listed except star wars has almost no /m/ shit.

>>14736862
>Star Trek
>not /m/

>>14733249
you know you can hide stickies right?

>>14736863
>/m/-mecha
star trek barely even has robots or AI, they have a whole fucking in universe reason why its barely around.

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>>14736862
Bow wow

>>14736873
Beargguy is less /m/ than Star Trek

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>>14736857
I think you wanted this image

>>14736864
fags hiding threads they don't like would solve most of these

>>14736881
beargguys are literally robot anon and are just spin off mobile suits.

Jurassic Park should be /m/

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>>14736873
>star trek barely even has robots or AI

>>14736895
>1 main character
>being more then barely
you people are delisional if you think data and the few and very far between robot and ai mentions make star trek /m/.

>>14736894
We need a dino board

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>>14736899

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>>14736894
>>14736900

>>14736857
I agree with all of those except Dr Who. I see zero reason why that should be allowed here.

>>14736903
>few and far between
woooow 2 characters

>>14736899
Anon, resistance is futile

>>14736906
the main villians are robots arent they?

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>>14736907

>>14736906
Honestly the only reason why I mentioned Doctor Who is because it's one of the cornerstones of western scifi. It's actually not talked about as much as Star Wars/Star Trek on here, and definitely not as much as Kamen Rider/Sentai.

>>14736911
I entirely forgot those ugly vacuum cleaners are robots. Fine I don't want them here because I don't like them, at least by admitting that I am better than the people who never shut up about removing Toku.

>>14736917
They're not robots, they're aliens in power armor.

>>14736918
Congratulations, you have made me hate that crappy show even more now.

>>14736912
anon i dont get what your trying to do here, if you take all the episodes that focused on robots specifically, you get like 10% of the show being /m/ related, its none debatable.

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>>14736873
>AI

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>>14736918
seriously? thats the power armor design they came up with?

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>>14736924

>>14736929
This is what happens when the series is a decades old children's show that ran on the budget of 6 pence and half a sandwich.

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>>14736924
I'd wager that it's 100% /m/ related considering we have spaceship threads all the time, not to mention the dozens of Yamato/Captain Harlock/Galaxy Express 999/Captain Tylor threads we've had here.

>>14736936
id argue that spaceships arent technically mecha, but ill just concede. at least the threads dont spill every where like /tv/

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>>14736929
To be fair, it's probably not the type of alien you would think of for power armor.

>>14736943
they could have come up.with something a bit better then having a trash can.
>>14736933
they could just, update the design

>>14736936
Not to mention that the ships regularly have AI of some form. Fuck, TOS has a whole episode dedicated to an upgrade to the ship's AI that makes it go AWOL.

And Geordi tried to fuck the Enterprise AI at least once.

>>14736947
>they could just, update the design
The autistic fanbase loves that terrible design

>>14736957
how does that shit even go for as long as it been going for. i watched a few episodes and they were mediocre at best. not bad, but n9t impressive either.

>>14736976
It was the equivalent of an early morning PBS kids show, I believe it was originally government funded though i don't know if it still is.

The fanbase are autistic and with shit taste, and there are also many who are ruled by nostalgia.

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>>14736905
Would you, Ryoma, would you?

>>14736911
>the main villians are robots arent they?
>>14736917
>I entirely forgot those ugly vacuum cleaners are robots.
>>14736918
>They're not robots, they're aliens in power armor.
Well the Cybermen are Cyborgs and Daleks are mutant squid in Power Armor/Mecha...
Then there are those Clockwork Bots what chop people up for their parts.

>>14736929
>seriously? thats the power armor design they came up with?
Well Davros did it, here, let the Hitchhiker's Guide explain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWn_1yOFpfU

>>14737152
Yiff in hell

>>14736947
The design is a cultural icon.
To be honest I like the trash can.
It looks weird and unique.

>>14735905
Considering how the average 4chan user is like, I don't think that's gonna solve anything

>>14736442
>not filtering clawshrimpy
Well yeah laughing at him is part of board culture

>>14736947
If they were going to update the Daleks, they needed to do it 50 years ago. Like it or not, it's an iconic design.

>>14736527
> and spoonfeeding were to be made a bannable offense.
This. We don't need to be as autistic about it as /a/, but do we really need multiple threads a day of people asking how to 'get into' whatever franchise? Watching cartoons isn't hard.


>>14736857
> We've been over this hundreds of times, and toku is just as /m/ as Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who

The weekly 'Complain about NuWho' threads started getting deleted a while ago.

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>>14737167
>>14735905
Both of you are right because mods weren't active enough, or punished those who attempted to enforce it, it allowed for foreign elements to establish themselves on 4chan without proper assimilation. They proliferate and /pol/'s paranoia about multiculturalism comes true right in front of us. Even if Hiro installed someone to handle day to day operations for 4chan and swept out the current moderator regime, you have the issue with the current crop of users that have come to the site in recent years not producing anything of substance.

It really boils down to a battle of the wills. moot and hiro both bowed to the the demands of /a/ on the subject of over zealous mods, and moot allowed /pol/ to get carpet bombed for an entire month when he disabled every anti spam measure for it. But they endured. On the flip side you saw proponents of GamerGate crumble after the mods clamped down on it instead of digging in like boards like /a/ would have done if the situation affected them.

>>14738010
I find it hilarious that there is even a chart for Getter since the chart is literally just "read the manga then watch whatever in whatever order."

Ban Snapfit-Kun, make stickies for new Gundam shows so we don't have fucking 15 threads about it, ban anyone making a "is x /m/?" and Robotech threads in general.

Auto ban Pedro and Spic shitposting. It's seriously just getting annoying at this point and the baiting is seriously out of hand.

>>14740673
While you are at it ban "what does /m/ think of TTGL?" threads. Not all TTGL threads, it's perfectly acceptable to discuss the series but those specific threads are always just attempts baiting people into shit flinging arguments.

Ban everyone for a week.

>>14736835
But I kind of like Toku Kamen Rider Kuuga served us well this last cup.

Is /m/ the triggered board?

Why do people want to ban everything they don't like?

>>14740765
If someone walked into the middle of public park, took a shit in the grass, and started flinging his shit around and shrieking, people would want to have him removed. There is a significant difference between differing opinions, and being an obnoxious retard.

>>14740765
>act like an obnoxious faggot
>y u guys triggered lol

>>14735746
/m/ is one of 4chan's best boards imo.
Even when someone starts a shitpost thread like "what went wrong" I usually see actual disscussion where as on a place like /v/ it would be actual discussion mixed with meme posting and a /pol/ invasion.

>>14740799
At least /pol/ or /v/ doesn't ask for banning anything they don't like.

>>14740778
>>14740783
So indeed triggered.

Nothing in /m/ is real, there's no shit for you to smell or scream for you to hear.

>>14733061
I love 4chan politics, it feels like I'm watching the U.N. or some UC equivalent to that because of how each board is like a country.
Just one bad descision and shit can go down.

>>14740810
>what are analogies
Shitposting lowers the quality of the board and pushes actual threads off it. /m/ has shitposters that keep posting even when no one responds to them. Are you telling me that meme-spouting faggots need to be protected?

>ban antiZeta shitposter
>Ban the spic
>Ban antiLeji shitposter
Seriously, these guys dont even try, they literally admit to being shitposters. Makes me miss Clawshrimpy
>Remove any /a/tier fetish posting outside of specific pilot suit threads
since they belong nowhere else and posting about Puru or Asukas vagina belongs on /c/

>>14740805
The mods do it for them.
Apparently EDF threads were getting deleted because "/v/ isn't for generals" or something, even though they have a million overwatch threads open constantly.

>>14733146
This is for the good of the /m/ community, not just yourself.

>>14736050
Please listen to this gentleman here.

Ban Black_Knight.

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>>14740638
> "read the manga then watch whatever in whatever order."

That sounds complicated dude. I mean am I supposed to read the manga in order or can I read each chapter randomly.

>>14733284
>>14733540
Are you faggots New?
/m/ is already the catch all scifi board. If its sci-fi and the thread doesnt die, then its /m/. This works pretty well actually.

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>>14736581
>>14736527
>I want to hide how pleb I really am with a muh culture pandering bullshit rule
FUCK YOU shitposter
The only purpose of that rule is so that /a/ can circlejerk bad moe and lackluster shonen without a reality check
Die

>>14740825
These "shitposters" are people with opinions you don't like, on the internet.

How pathetic can you be that you can't stand some words on the net?
>>14741117
Not in their consent, I'm sure.

>>14741257
And this is how /m/ is the Forever Newfag board.

>>14741355
There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with me. The problem is when they do it in a way that has little to no substance.

Here's an example
>I like show because it has great animation and fight choreography
>lol that show's shit you're a spic

See the reply doesn't actually contribute anything to the discussion. Now if they had said

>Actually faggot, it's a shit show because the characters are two dimensional and the plot breaks its own internal consistency all the time. Also that fight choreography is a blurry mess where you can't tell what's happening. Here, have this webm as an example

See, that's a good post because it actually has some substance to it.

>>14741355
You just ignored what I said. Shitposting makes for a shit board. Anons being able to use this board for actual mecha discussion is more important than autists regurgitating their memes and in-jokes, which is why shitposters should be dealt with.

So could you guys please stop hating on Showa?

We need a sticky with all the gundam,macross,etc infographs for people trying to get into mecha.

>>14733284
No

>>14733249
>>14733233
You do realize that stickies can be modified, right? What we need is an active moderator who will manage and update one sticky, which will have a list of rules, example "bannable offenses", and of course a dump of rec charts.

Someone who is notably neutral on most topics and has a long history on the site, like dcisp, would be a good choice.

>>14733061
In general what we really need is active moderation of new threads. A spot on the catalog should not be taken up by low quality bait threads

The definition of what is and isn't shitty no-effort bait is tough. That's why we need an experienced and unbiased mod. Someone who knows what /m/'s weak spots are and when a post is trying to hit those weak spots without a valid justification.

We used to be one of the slowest boards around. I think a big influx of new users are coming from areas like /a/, /co/, /tv/, and /tg/. Some of them are fine but a lot have realized how easy it is to samefag, bait, and shitpost and are using our precious /m/ as nothing more than their adolescent playground.

A lot have probably barely watched any /m/ and just read quick descriptions so they can understand our memes and commence their shitting.

It pains me to say this, but older /m/ days of where we were safe via our obscurity are gone. We are the focus of cross board attention and we need stronger mods

People who can spot shit for what it is
>when does this get good
>implying x is better than y
>prove me wrong
>it's shit / trash / x
>is [insert clearly non-m story] /m/?
>"toku war" threads/posts
>what did they mean by this?
>what was his/her/its problem?
>does /m/ like/think x?
>entire threads made to sauce one webm
>smug anime threads

Anything from the above with nothing else in the OP should be deleted on sight.

>>14744108
>ban what I don't like

>>14744108
>It pains me to say this, but older /m/ days of where we were safe via our obscurity are gone. We are the focus of cross board attention
What the fuck are you talking about? We haven't been this irrelevant in a long time.

>>14744123
>don't ban what I like

You do realize that shitposting and trolls are against the rules, right? It is possible to have an on-topic shitpost.

Just because your lazy inflammatory statement is about a mecha doesn't excuse you from a strict enforcement of the rules. It's still a shitpost and a troll.

>>14744164
>your lazy inflammatory statement
That doesn't apply to half of your examples, you just happen to have a personal dislike for posts written that way.

>>14744227
No, that's objectively wrong.

It's lazy if it's of one format that has been provably used dozens of other times just this year.

Typing five words that say something is 'shit' is both inflammatory and lazy.

>>14744263
>"toku war" threads/posts
>what did they mean by this?
>what was his/her/its problem?
>does /m/ like/think x?
>entire threads made to sauce one webm
>smug anime threads
That's half of your examples, and none of those are necessarily inflammatory.

>>14736011
Generals feel like the antithesis of what this whole site is supposed to be about. The people who post in them could easily fuck off to "regular" forums, and nothing would change for them.

If you think anything needs to be changed, you are an /a/ crossboarder who needs to fuck off.

>>14744343

Yeah, this is pretty much how I feel. I genuinely feel like I'm not even on 4chan anymore when I go to generals. They have their own rules and their own culture and are completely insular, and it's disgusting.

I went to ksg once on /vg/ to see how bad it was, to see if the legends were true. And it was literally a bunch of tripfags wishing each other good night and there was a big fight going on because some anon wished everyone goodnight and a tripfag got mad because he was wishing people goodnight out of turn or something. It was the most homosexual thing I've ever seen in my life and I've seen actual man-on-man fucking.

Generals need to be hit so hard it would be like something Truman would do to end a war.

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>>14744355
>They have their own rules and their own culture and are completely insular, and it's disgusting.

I'll have "What are the individual boards?" for 500 please.

>>14744423

Yeah, and what's a general?
A board within a board.
What's the difference between /vg/ and reddit, other than that reddit at least has mods?

generals are good and a must for when big series episodes air

is there a single bad regular general on /m/ besides the toku/sentai ones?

/m/ only needs to ban the professional shitposter-kuns and Snapfit

the rest is fine, maybe a sticky with best torrent for series, scans, manga, etc and links to good info sites.

recommendation charts are arbitrary and therefore gay

>>14744774
You forgot keeping Rocklobster and his TOXIC MASCULINITY bullshit off the fucking board.

>>14742818
The last thing our robot cartoon board needs is even more people too stupid to figure out watching robot cartoons.

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What we really need is an actual mod like meido in /jp/, all this "spic this/spic that" will pick up fast and this will become a cesspool of shitposting again.
At this rate we're gonna get worse than /tv/ and it's cunny-bot.

>>14745852

I would rather have an effective tyrant than whatever we have where snapshit runs free.

>>14736929
I don't like Zakus but we all gotta deal with it.

>>14745781
>cesspool of shitposting again.

Ironic coming from the faggot who shat up the whole board for years with his tabloid-tier "translations" of what various authors have said.

1. remove shitposting threads

2. remove generals

3. remove toku on the basis of 1 and 2.

Make VF a mod

>>14746943
This desu senpai

>>14746810
I don't know about tje toku generals, but the gunpla generals are perfectly fines save for snapcity.

>>14745781
>Admitted crossboarder trying to shit up our board
No one wants /m/ to be like your trash boards dumb fag

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>>14746441
But anon, I've never translated anything for /m/.

>>14747132
C'mon anon /jp/ isn't that bad.

>>14746943
This

We are fine desu. We are too small to really need that many mods and its rare that we get any thread that is actually harmfull. Dumb yes but harmfull no

Ban "What would they pilot?" threads.
They're even worse than the "Is ____ /m/?" threads because they don't even try to be /m/ related.

Ban MD Geist, that is less /m/ than everything mentioned as not /m/ in this thread.

Ban this guy >>14741966

Ban anyone saying "spic".

Mod dorkly/VF.

>>14747461
>Ban anyone saying "spic".
Why does /m/ hate Mexicans even more than they hate Showa?

>>14747461
Butthurt tokuspic detected
MD Geist will always be /m/

>>14733061

Can we talk about Digimon threads shitting up the place? I was fine with Xros, Shoutmon turned into an actual robot,but those generals seem to never,ever, focus on the /m/ aspects.

>>14747461
>Ban anyone saying "spic".
Different guy here, but this is already supposed to be bannable by Global Rule 3, it just isn't enforced. You should be reporting it every time you see it (or any other racism) and at the very least the janitors should be deleting the posts.

MD Geist is totally /m/, though. It has that awesome power suit and a DEATH ARMY of killer robots.

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>>14747541
>>14747461
>You should be reporting it every time you see it (or any other racism)
Are you serious? Being able to call people fags and niggers is part of classic 4chan culture.

We already had a nigger mod who tried to ban everyone who used the word 'nigger' and it got so out of control that another mod had to step in to nullify the bans that were handed out.

this is what happens when cool mouths talk with dialogue

>>14747553
Boogiemanposting forfeits the 4chan nigger privilege card though.

>>14747558
You keep posting that and I don't know why

>>14747553
>MUH BOARD CULTURE
Global Rule 3
Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism. Keep /pol/ in /pol/.

So I say unto you:
>>>/b/
>>>/pol/

>>14747569
>>14747589
>Boogiemanposting
>Historical events are now 'Boogieman'
>Doesn't remember when 'apple' was word filtered to ''Dead nigger storage'

As >>14747594 said. Calling another poster any word or phrase. Regardless of context or implication. isn't a privilege, it's a right. You double nigger.

>>14747553
People can call each other fags and niggers on /m/ but spic is a special circumstance, it's only used for shitposting.

When you act retarded, do not be surprised when retards join you, believing themselves among their own kind.

>>14747607
That creates a slippery slope because if you ban one word, then what's to stop any other word from being banned?

>>14747257
>But anon, I've never translated anything for /m/.

http://desuarchive.org/m/search/username/%E3%81%9D%E3%82%8C%E3%82%82%E5%90%8D%E7%84%A1%E3%81%97%E3%81%A0%E2%AD%90/page/3/

See everything from page 4 onward, Moononymous, and leave.

>>14747617
Go right ahead you fucking chink, just don't say the S word
>>14747638
That's basically impossible, spic is only used because Mexico is closely connected to series like Mazinger Z, Getter Robo and Kamen Rider Black. No one is gonna call someone a nigger or a gook for liking those.

>>14747638
No it doesn't.

There's a difference between the catering tactic that is spicposting in DP threads and calling some rando a kike, the former is censorship achieved through annihilating the signal:noise ratio with nonstop noise.

>>14747649
If spicposters turn to those then why not? People should be allowed to discuss Mazinger, Getter and Black without being silenced by spicposters.

>>14747648
>spic is only used because Mexico is closely connected to series like Mazinger Z, Getter Robo and Kamen Rider Black. No
Good job in providing evidence that there is cultural history for usage of the word and all the more reason not to have it be filtered you retarded roach.

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>>14747652
Fixed

>>14747657
>please don't take away my word mommy! please don't sit on my face and fart really deeply mommy!
Your next post is going to accuse me of being a Mexican

>>14747649
>wetback
That one I never seen.

>>14747659
boo

>>14736011
>still mad about toku on /m/

you antitoku faggots got BTFO years ago, get over yourselves already.

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>>14747668
Snake Hand puppets aren't /m/ either

>>14747676
Predictable spicposter

>>14733061
>how they specifically should be moderated
I would settle for "a nonzero amount".

>>14747663
I was just going to call you a faggot for not having a real counter point to make over the fact that you just want something censored because it hurts your feelings.

But if you insist spicity spic spic.

>the average spicposter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r7pnMVNvPE

Wordfilter "spic" to something comical desu senpai

>>14747690
>m-muh censorship
/m/ is not /pol/, Cleetus. I know you're upset over the possibility of not being able to derail threads about shows you dislike, but everyone else on the board would like to have a peaceful thread about Getter again.

>>14747695
Could be funny, but they'll just switch to other epithets. It won't solve the problem of tweeners thinking it's cool to be obnoxious.

/m/ doesn't need any changes, it's the closest to a pure and perfect board that 4chan has.

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>>14747696
>Ban words I don't like

>>14747695
Dinosaur. Then filter Pablo, Pedro, Carlos etc. to the names of different dinosaurs.

>>14747711
>ignore shit you don't like
You mean like how Moot is now ignoring 4chan?
That image is no longer relevant, anon.

>>14744343
A general thread past a certain point in its life invariably tilts towards low quality post in an effort to extend its life span. The community fostered by it see its survival as paramount to keeping the community alive, and as such they'll adapt the shitty thread survival tactic as it has proven its viability for years across 4chan (/v/ is living proof that all you need to make a thread survive the high turnover is to start with a shitty bait opener).

The low quality posts combined with the community-hierarchy acts as a barrier to entry for anyone but the most egocentric of posters who seek validation by mingling with and replicating the behavior of the general thread (or worse, people who seek out these threads as an opportunity to vent out their against-the-grain opinion as much as possible, seeing the general as an audience in need of reeducation). This is a problem, because 4chan generates quality through maintaining a constant churn of opinion and commentary; new people voicing new viewpoints and preventing a common consensus from forming, this is the core of quality discussion. People actually discussing things, and not nodding their heads in blind agreement or argumentative dickwaving.

Tldr generals as an evolutionary tactic to maintain a subject's vitality are unquestionably a mistake by the very nature of their being, the old strategy of thread swarming was far better.

>>14747711
>ban people for targeting certain /m/ threads to forcibly derail
Yeah that sounds okay to me

>>14747722
If they're shitposting, they should be banned for that. Not for what they say.

What you really want is more competent moderation.

>>14747724
How about a compromise:
Delete posts for racism, ban posters for maliciously derailing threads.

>>14747730
That's not a compromise.

Spic, along with any and all other words are allowed. Those who attempt to derail threads and blatantly shitpost get banned. Like they should because that's what would happen if we had competent mods.

>>14747730
I have a better idea. Unironically a better idea.


Implement r9k on /m/.

1) A mod who actually gives a shit.
2) Board-dedicated mods, not global ones.
3) Destroy generals.
4) Liberally hand out bans for thread flooding.
5) Wordfilters(I recommend a bunch of series like "G-Reco" and "A/Z" all just get filtered to "shit")
6) A kill list is formed and then certain users are given the clawshrimpy treatment: permaban.

>>14747737
>along with any and all other words are allowed
But that's not what Global Rule 3 says.
It *is* a compromise because I'm saying I'd settle for post deletion, I don't need to see people being banned for it.

I do agree with you that people who habitually derail threads for shows they don't like should be banned, though. I just don't see any reason to defend racism, especially when it's being used primarily to derail threads.

>>14747749
You had me until 5.

You really should have it word filtered to "your favorite anime," otherwise you'll get a lot of posts about how shit is shit.

>>14747765
>otherwise you'll get a lot of posts about how shit is shit.

That's what I want.

>>14747768
But that's confusing, and nowhere near as comical as the inevitable flood of "your favorite anime is shit"

>>14747756
If you were around long enough you'd know how GR3 is only enforced when a mod sees a post they don't like.

Or the fact that all words are neutral and it's the context that decides if they are wrong. Like someone like Richard Pryor saying the word 'nigger' won't automatically make you assume he's a racist. The same benefit should be given to everyone and you need to see and how it's being used.

Being banned for shitposting or derailing a thread covers your needs. You want to extend it to though crimes.

>>14747770
>But that's confusing

Good.

>>14747774
You know damn well the only time people use spic in a context that isn't shitting up DynamicPro threads is when people are calling out that the only context it's used in is shitting up DynamicPro threads, and the consequential throwing around of spic to argue that people are exercising their racist privilege independent of DynamicPro trolling.

>>14747774
>If you were around long enough
Bitch, please. Let's not start that puerile "I've been here longer than you" on an anonymous forum. There's no point. We can both drag out ancient memes or refernce things you might have read on knowyourmeme and it will prove absolutely dick.

Hiro is asking for input about how the boards should be moderated, and my input is that Global Rule 3 should be enforced if only through deletion.
>though crimes
Take off the tinfoil. I'm not arresting anyone for what they might do tomorrow, I'm just saying that insults are always off-topic and there's no reason to defend their right to remain in a thread. You post a racial slur, the person sees it and their feelings are hurt, mission accomplished. Why do you care if it gets deleted after he reports it? Why defend that at all? What purpose is served by leaving it in the thread?

>>14747749
>6) A kill list is formed and then certain users are given the clawshrimpy treatment: permaban.
no

>>14747724
Shitposting is what they say

Well, unless it's imagebombing like the poor gunpla threads

>>14747785
>>14747781
Actually how long a person has been posting on 4chan does matter because oldfags have better scope of how things were when the board was functional. If you have a problem with a specific word, you can filter it yourself using one of the many add ons.

The problem you're prattling on about should be solved if we had a moderator actually look through /m/ every day. And yet, you are wanting posts to be deleted for having a word you have a problem with. Regardless of the context because, you, personally had bad experiences with a person who used that word. Sounds like a thought crime to me.

So unless hiro says otherwise, it is still every poster's god given right to call anyone else on this board a Spic. So no. You have not convinced me as to why your specific word should be banfiltered when a competent mod would do the job and clean up the threads you're worried about.

>>14747804
>a competent mod would do the job and clean up the threads you're worried about
That'd be nice

Wake me when it happens

>>14747804
Whole lotta mental gymnastics you got there to defend spicposting, anon.

>>14747804
>Regardless of the context because, you, personally had bad experiences with a person who used that word. Sounds like a thought crime to me.
You seem to think I want it to be an autoban phrase. I'm just saying that when someone reports it. That means janitors looking at the post, using common sense about whether someone was being deliberately insulting, and deleting the post. You're padding your argument by saying I want it out of context, and that's not how reports work, mr oldfag.

>>14747822
>>14747817
Just making sure you newfags don't get to gun hoe in your attempts to get the one thing you don't like banned and using that as justification to get the next thing you find disagreeable to be banned.

Racism and shitposting are not mutually exclusive.

You still haven't made a compelling arguement as to why posts with the word 'Spic' should be deleted, let alone further action should be taken when the main problem is solved with moderation.

>>14747904
Nigger here's a compelling argument for you: >>14747781

Now go and whine about how you're being censored why don't you

>>14747904
>Racism and shitposting are not mutually exclusive.

They are, however, definitely mutually inclusive when it turns any given thread into a /pol/ satellite chapter.

>>14747904
>still trying to sound superior with the "newfag" bullshit
>not mutually exclusive
This is a board for discussing mecha anime, manga, and toku (not a tokufag, but I don't mind them being here).
There is nothing on-topic whatsoever about insulting another poster, racist or not. It just so happens that BOTH of those things (flames and racism) are specifically prohibited by Global Rule 3, so I don't see why I need to prove anything to you in an argument.

I'm just asking Hiroyuki to instruct janitors to enforce the rule by deleting off-topic rule-breaking posts.

>>14747930
>>14747942
All you've presented are individuals who derail threads through shitposting and should be punished for that. Nothing in your posts have provided enough evidence to justify making using the word 'spic' a bannable offense. Furthermore, you've shown that even if your demands were implemented, they would just shift to using another word like >>14747649 listed, your solution is to just put more words into the ban filter as opposed to policing the individual responsible. It punishes the community for the actions of an individual.

So if it means letting shitposters derail your threads because you can't resist responding to someone calling you a Spic. then it's your own fault and we don't need to ban anything other than behavior. If anything, you need to be desensitized to the word, so I'll do you a favor and refer to you as The Spic in further posts.

If you had to describe what is currently allowed on /m/ with one sentence, what would it be?

>>14747989
Cool story bro but you should actually read people's posts instead of jumping the gun like that.

>>14748012
No U

>>14747989
>ban filter
There you go again. There is only one instance of "ban filter" in this thread, and it's in your comment. There is only one instance of "autoban" in this thread, and it's me saying that it isn't what I'm talking about.

>>14747997
A swirl of chaos Malal would be proud of.

>>14748053
https://1d4chan.org/wiki//m/

>>14748077
Stop linking this.

>>14748019
Spic, we've been through this before. You want to delete posts regardless of context. All that's going to happen is A. have things remain how they are where a mod will only enforce rules when they don't like the post. or B. cause more work for mods because every post with the word will be flagged and they're going to start slacking off after enough time.

So your way will only cause more problems in the long run, but you also haven't found anything unreasonable about wanting this board to have a moderator who does their job and bans people who blatantly shitpost and derail threads. When that would solve the problem while at the same time, not muzzle what people can say.

>>14748090
>give me cheese for my wine

Ban triggered tumblrinas. Do that and you've solved the worst problem with toku being here.

>>14748077
>moot declared Toku is /m/
https://youtu.be/_8Pa-Ff-NXA?t=3m9s

>>14747553
It's one thing to slip it into casual conversation, but too many people on this site try too hard to fit in by greentexting a string of buzzwords. And the door swings both ways; if a post is a string of Tumblr tier buzzwords (down with cis you misogynerd pisslord), it can technically be reported as well. Though obviously those are easily identified as shitposts anyway.

>>14748190
What you disturbed would much better be solved with conformity through peer pressure rather than appealing to authority to solve it. That would place the blame for the problem on your inaction though, and I get a feeling you don't want to take responsibility..

>>14748226

Conformity and peer pressure don't work on /m/ unless everyone does it, meaning it doesn't work.

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I read this thread and all I see are retards who want to be the next Hitler without actually doing any overall improvement to the quality of the board.

>>14749417
> all I see are retards who want to be the next Hitler
So what you're saying is we need a Girhen to purge those who's souls are still weighed down by Earth's gravity into a new era of glory for /m/,

>>14747711
Moot was a cuck Jew faggot who jumped ship during Gamergate so he could grab hair-dyed SJW reddit poon and bathe in the light of not being the owner of a site whose number one rule is "don't post CP"

Fuck him, he's ded and passe too.

The hack didn't even come up with any of his own ideas. Just copied 2channel.

>>14748091
>You want to delete posts regardless of context.
Liar. I've already addressed that. Janitors look at context when they view a reported post.
But speaking of context, how exactly is throwing racial slurs at other posters on-topic to begin with? It isn't, obviously, so you have no argument here. That's why you have to lie and say that I want things deleted regardless of context, because you are unable to defend against what I actually said.

>>14751137
Sorry Spic, the fact I'm doing it right now invalidates your entire argument because I'm clearly on topic, AND calling you a spic. It also has the bonus of showing how desperate you are by trying to paint me as a liar when you have nothing of merit to defend. So spic, are you going to demand I be banned for calling you a spic while also being on topic in refuting your point? Or are you going to use a logical fallacy to say I'm wrong or cry that calling you a spic automatically means I'm off topic?

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How about these guidelines, i think they cover everything
Anonymous' 3 Laws of /m/etics
1. Anything involving futuristic machines or mechanisms such as giant robots, spaceships, power armor, etc. are /m/. (this rule wouldn't add anything to posting, but would get rid of 'is x /m/ threads)
2. All toku series containing anything under 1. are fair game to be threaded about. (specifically allows toku since, while the series isn't aimed at /m/, as long as it has /m/ elements its protected.)
3. Shitposting in hopes of creating a low quality thread, or derailing a thread, is a bannable offense. (stops shitty bait threads and makes the use of "spicposting" bannable at a mod's discretion.)

>>14751506

The problem is the vague definition of "shitposting."

Just look at G-Reco threads where not liking G-Reco is "shitposting." "Shitposting" is an extremely overused term, basically the new "trolling" where it just means "anything that offends me."

>>14751517
to me, like some guy I'm to lazy to find the id to, can be on topic and not derail a thread. To use your example, not liking g-reco in a thread thats about g-reco is shitposting if the poster calls everybody who likes it a niggerfucker or something along those lines. I (once again personal opinion) am okay with a mild shitpost, like an ANSWER ME DOMON in a G Gundam thread but calling everyone who likes Getter a spic doesn't do anything but inflame people.

>>14751546
To add to this, shitposting as a whole isn't bannable under my rule 3 as long as it doesn't derail or create a thread that'll take up space for 3 days. Depending on the quality of conversation, a thread that could be considered a shitpost can be kept on the board. If someone makes a "Was it good?" thread about ttgl and its just a bunch of shitflinging both ways, then the thread will be removed, but if the same thread is made, and the conversation is mostly civil then the thread can stay, while people who attempt to derail with shitflinging get escalating bans.

>>14751546

Banning some shitter who just calls everyone a spic isn't something that requires a guideline though. I mean maybe it's just me but I'm of the belief that if you need a fucking rule to ban calling people a spic you've already failed. A competent mod would shut a faggot like that down anyway.

Plus you can have on-topic shitposting. Again I'm going to point to the G-Reco threads where I would say in half of any thread discussing G-Reco there's literally no attempt by the pro-G-Reco side to argue. They just endlessly repeat some variation of "you just don't get it, retard." This is why eventually the anti- side just started shitposting back so the threads became 100% shit. Or IBO threads/BF Try threads where there's always one guy who refuses to acknowledge anyone else's points and just goes "I don't care I liked it you just have to have low expectations, don't be a no-life loser lol it's just a kids show." It's like going on /a/ and asking "how come everyone takes cartoons so serious?!????!?!?"

These kinds of posts are detrimental to the board but they wouldn't really be shitposting, and if you label them shitposting and start banning people for it then it leads down a slippery slope. The only solution is just a competent mod with a wise sense of discretion, which is like trying to find the last Mohican.

Honestly at this point all I want is a mod who actually does their job and for generals to be kill.

>>14751569
On the topic of generals, i think they're mostly okay. /krg/ literally calls themselves shitpost containment so im cool with that. And (as someone who supports toku this is my belief) that i don't want to send them to the depths of /onahole/ or /bane/, even if it means 3 less /m/ threads.

I personally think the best option is board specific mods and bans etc. A janitor can't handle everything on /m/ and it requires a mod to ban anyway so why not have a team of people from the board moderate for it. Mods would be given ban-veto power over other mods based on 2 other mods thinking a ban was unjustified. Since theres no deletion log there wouldn't be any way to help in that department if mods disagreed with a post but i think its a step in the right direction.

TL;DR: Council of Board-Specific Mods for every board that have the ability to ban users from posting on that board only. Bans are vetoable by other mods.

>>14751506
Point 2 Doesn't work just because that's how people are interpreting the rules right now. It's alright to talk about what actors did porn just because they were in a toku show, and even if that toku show didn't have any mecha in it. It's still toku so it's /m/ by extreme proxy.

They should be moved to /jp/ since it allows them to talk about the actors then without worrying about being on topic. Plus Jap TV shows are usually posted on /jp/

>>14736641
>>14736758
Where did he go anyway?

>>14751619
he went to be reborn so he could sneak back to places, become a member of the hand, sacrifice his troops, and make his black babe his own while his rival has his arm trapped in a monster's jaws. In all seriousness I think he figured out how to change his IP address

>>14751615
don't really browse /jp/ so I wasn't aware about what discussions go on there. Everytime i click /jp/ by accident onahole general is the top thread so i don't go farther. If this is the case then toku tv series should be moved to /jp/ while discussion about the mecha in them can stay on /m/. Example is /ssg/ moves to /jp/ but if you want to discuss the Megazord and its plot-relevance /m/ is fine.

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>>14751634
>we will never see him down talk normies anymore
>we will never see him vice grip anime classics in the testicles while verbally tasing them in the mouth
>we will never see him tear through artistic integrity
>we will never have another person act so /m/ against regular anime fans


I'm actually becoming tsundere for a guy I mock....

>>14751609

I'm not opposed to toku, kaiju, whatever on /m/.
But generals mist be purged.

>>14751652
We never did get to know him

>>14751658
Some generals are fine tho, since if we banned all generals, there would just be a gunpla general in everything but name like how Jojo's, Monmu, Precure, etc. on /a/ has a general in everything but name.

>>14751663

Those are some of the worst threads on /a/

>>14751662
that's his fault, he never opened up and we know nothing about him beyond he's an American male (and a hard left democrat).

>>14751674
The guy still had serious balls for slamming stuff people liked without giving a fuck.

>>14751673
I know, that's my argument towards generals being allowed. I don't have any issue with a subgroup of people coming together to discuss a certain show/ whatever they like because even if it becomes a cesspool, they have a big sign that says /cpg/ - cesspool general so regular users can avoid it.

>>14751698

But that kind of shit just doesn't work. It's just enabling their faggotry and their faggotry cannot be contained. It's like immigration in Europe, first it was allowed, then it got out of hand, then they tried containment in ghettoes, but shit is still exploding.

Letting people have fucking No Man's Lands and Kowloons of pure faggotry in every single board just because no one has the stones to mess with it is simply not sustainable.

>>14751683
he'd make a strong SJW

>>14751719
based on personal experience, the generals on /m/ do a good job of keeping specific groups locked into their own area of the board. /swrg/, /krg/, and /ssg/ related posts are rarely are posted outside of their respective general and are normally on-topic when they are posted.

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>>14751719
>>14751724
as an addendum, the ruleset that /a/, to my knowledge, approved allowed for generals with heavy moderation.

Just have board-based mods and permanent snapshit please

Word filters nice but not needed.

>>14751658
>>14751724
Generals are containment threads. If you purge them, you'll have to find a suitable place to deal inevitable run off. In the case of Toku, they should be moved to /jp/ or /tv/. And everything else is sink or swim. Because of the traffic that /m/ gets, they should survive without a problem. Generals were only created so people could keep up with ever evolving information about something they were watching/playing. I was part of the first generals on /v/ with monster hunter. Or to contain all the discussions to a single thread because 10 or more threads were being made. Like an newly released game or aired episode. But to keep a general going for the sake of just having it is not necessary.

As for why certain generals on /m/ don't turn into utter irredeemable sludge like some of the stuff you'd find on /vg/. It's because the traffic on /m/ is much, MUCH slower, so you're less likely to make a post for the sake of not having your thread be slid off the board.

Regardless generals are an anti thesis of 4chan since they're basically little gated communities with their own mores when the whole idea of 4chan is to force interaction with other groups. Now there is a limit based on the guidelines of the board. But make no mistake, generals were meant to handle an overflow on a particular subject, not to be a permanent fixture. /kgs/ continued existence is proof of that.

The story so far:
>Generals should be banned
>/m/ continues to push for toku not being /m/
>Bans for the sake of bans

>>14751846
I've come to the conclusion that toku generals shouldn't be on /m/ but discussion of kaiju and mecha from toku franchises is fine. I figure is EVA is allowed then mechagodzilla definitely should.

>>14751856
Alright so where do I discuss Showa Rider and Heisei Rider?

>>14751876
/jp/
there are already threads discussing japanese shows, the general would simply move to that board instead.

>>14751887
But why? Showa Rider is /m/, since it's about cyborgs, as well as more than a few Heisei Riders being based on tech (Kabuto, G3, and Fourze spring to mine).

Should Showa Rider stay here and Heisei in /jp/?

Also where does Sentai/PR go? They're toku, but they also have mecha. Since Sentai are sister shows with KR, should they go to /jp/ too, or should they stay in /m/?

Similarly, does PR go to /tv/ despite being /m/, or should they stay here?

And if PR and/or Sentai DOES stay here, why should their sister show be anywhere else BUT /m/, again, seeing as KR is strongly influenced by cybernetics/cyborgs/etc.

>>14751913
Because the Kamen Generals rarely talk about the mecha elements that are in any given show and then use it as a shield like you're doing right now. A more suitable way to decide where Toku should be put is to look at what the average topics are about. Are they more in line with /m/, or /jp/? Whatever has a majority is where it is all placed. No quibbling.

>>14751913
/krg/s are self-admitted Shitpost Containers and the discussion (as far as i've seen) can be as far as the actors in Kamen Rider doing porn. If /krg/ talked mostly about the /m/ elements i'd be fine with it staying.

>>14751941
As someone who has monitored the threads for a while. They rarely talk about mecha elements. If anything, half the threads just consists of image dumps of actresses.

>>14751947

This. Just fucking slay every general where it stands. They are rolling shitpost festivals.

>>14751949
What about gunpla general

>>14751953
They shouldn't need a general to survive.

>>14751953
>>14751957
If there is a single thing deserving of a general from /m/, it would be gunpla since its a massive part of why people browse /m/ and watch /m/ stuff. The issue is that it may just become a general in all but name like >>14751663 said.

>>14751967
But it doesn't need to be a general. It can work just like the buyfag thread in /a/ does. Being a general creates certain expectations that are unnecessary.

>>14751967
>>14751953

A competent mod would obviously allow gunpla general to stay, so long as it doesn't call itself one.

But everything else must die.

>>14751972
Fuck i completely thought about buyfag threads. I guess that's completely fine then. My perception was off of the Jojo's, Monmu, and Precure threads from /a/ which are absolute cancer.

>>14751987
That's only because they condemn generals and do everything they can to keep themselves from turning into one.

HOW TO MAKE /M/ GREAT AGAIN, THE TRUMPANON WAY:

1. Remove toku, godzilla, star trek and other sci fi

2. Ban toku outside of /jp/

3. Ban "syfy" outside of /tv/ and /lit/, depending on the medium

4. Ban snapshit outside of /toy/.

5. Turn /m/ red like it used to be, back before blue boards were even a thing.

6. Suspend GR15, just so we can ponyspam toku, syfy and snapshit faggots straight back to their own god forsaken (not to be confused with beloved super robot "God Forsaken") boards without having to rely on traitorous mods who don't uphold the purity of /m/.

7. Ban generals outside of /mg/.

8. Create /mg/ - Mecha Generals in order to contain the cancer.

9. Move all the current mods to /mg/, then replace them with a dead potted plant.

That should purge all the cancer from muh /m/urrican robot board, all without actually depriving posters of a place to post their general faggotry and non-/m/ shit.

And because of that, all of those ideas will ever be implemented.

You know, because we're supposed to be a more " tolerant" and "multicultural" board, even at the cost of everyone hating everyone.