Shin Godzilla #15: Gojirin 20th Anniversary

I am the only true fan of having my feet gently licked while I stare up at the ceiling and imagine a Teletubby.

>>14601951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B_ulXENJaM

Godzilla appears to evolve new abilities based on what attacks him.

So how do we attack him to get hands that can actually hold a Whopper?

>>14601973
You get American 2014 Godzilla.

>>14602064
>>14602066
They made his eyes too cute, he looks more hapless than hazardous.

>>14601965
>Loquendo
Oh god.

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>>14602066
Is it wrong to think little Godzilla is cuter than Minilla?

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>>14602106
Come again?

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>>14602112

>>14602145
Even in puppet form his sanpaku are disturbing.

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>>14602161

>>14602096
I could easily see that thing splitting off of Godzilla's tail and growing into >>14602064

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>>14602259
You're not too far off.

>>14602169
S-Stop

Please

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>>14602066
Hmm...

And any chance of Toho touching up on effects before Shin Godzilla is shown in other countries?

>>14602462
Possibly, but which shots need a tune up?

>>14602473
I heard that one of his evolutions looked bad (the worst thing in the film one reviewer said, almost Asylum Level) and that there are occasional slips and jerky movements throughout. I know if I were in charge, assuming the time was available, I'd want to correct that before putting it out in international markets. But overall, people have said it looks great for a Japanese blockbuster.

>>14602462
None, probably.

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>>14602064
>>14602066
I could totally see pic related being his first form. Back when he was just munching on nuclear waste.

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>>14602491
Sounds like the pollywog if I had to guess. I'd like to think that with the fuck-ton of money made from distributors fighting for the rights, touching up those sequences (and whatever stiff bits remain) would be at the top of the to-do list.

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>>14602524
Whoops, wrong image.

>ShinG is CG
Will the "men in rubber suits wrestling each other" crowd stop being biased against CG now? I never understood the preference for one artifice to another.

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>>14602646
To be fair, Toho was kind of being lazy. Stuff like Megalon and most of the Heisei/Millennium films don't exactly give the best impression. Biollante was a glimpse of what was possible. Sadly, we never really got to see it. Imagine 90s Higuchi with a Toho sized budget.

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>Everyone hyped Godzilla's getting an anime.
Fuckers, Varan did it first.

>>14602768
>implying anybody gives any fucks about Varan ever

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>>14602776
AHYUK AHYUK AHYUK

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>>14602768
Godzilla appears in the Daicon III and Daicon IV, which came before Varan's appearance in Prefectural Earth Defense Force. Furthermore, Godzilla appeared before Varan in the latter work as well. Varan loses yet again.

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>>14602812
Varan appeared in Urusei Yatsura, several years before Daicon III and Daicon IV

>>14602835
it would be faster to list the pop culture characters that didn't appear in UY

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>>14602837

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>Kitty Films kept wanting to do a Godzilla anime
>Based on that brutal Manga, the one where Godzilla tears Rodan's wing off for no fucking reason
>Toho said noho.
>AIC, the company that made Tenchi, was contacted by Toho for an anime back in 1993
>Toho changed their mind.

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>>14602511
I thought the same thing.

>godzilla's original form is a fetus

really makes you think

>>14602768
>Varan
Literally who.

>>14602861
The faggot who got into Destroy All Monsters but was then opted out for Gorosaurus, Kumonga, Minya and Anguirus.

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>>14602835
Didn't Godzilla also have a cameo in that show? Which came first? We got any UY fans here?

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>>14602877
And Ang/goro bros have been rubbing it in ever since.

>>14602877
That's sounds rather unbelievable.

>>14602066
>>14602064

anything that awful looking wants to die

>>14602945
What have you got against Steve Buscemi?

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Looking for some recommendations for the best Godzilla sound tracks.I hear vs. Megaguirus is pretty good. What are some others?

>>14602989
Be easier to list which ones ARENT good, but if you like an unusual OST I recommend Sugiyama's vs Biollante.
It's an immense departure from his Dragon Quest work and very different from the usual Ifukube tracks, but it matches the movie perfectly and is fun to listen to in its own.

>>14602877
You're lying.
He sound like a faggot though.

>>14602943
Original film was to have every monster in the Toho Vault in it. This included Kong and the Gargantuas. Couldn't use them for obvious reasons.

The All Monsters Attack Directive had:
Ghidorah, Manda, Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, Maguma, Ebirah, Baragon, Varan.

Ebirah was too water damaged.
Maguma's suit was damaged. They were opted out. Replaced with the freshly made Gorosaurus, Kumonga, and Minya from a year earlier.

Then they added Anguirus when they found out making a new Varan suit would cost to much money.

>>14603212
How was Anguirus less expensive when he has more detail and mass?

>>14603215
They took the money from making Baragon and Varan new suits, and pooled it for Anguirus.

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>new fucking godzilla movie
>it doesnt get an international theatrical release
>its 2016

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>>14603285
http://augustragone.blogspot.com/2016/07/godzilla-resurgence-to-hit-100.html?m=1

http://augustragone.blogspot.com/2016/07/shin-godzilla-is-coming-to-americas.html?m=1

>>14603285
I have some excellent news to share with you

>>14602858
EVERYONE's original form is a fetus.

Except for Stan Lee.

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>>14602096

>>14602078
Eyes don't grow mate, they stay the same while the skull grows bigger, that's why they look cute and big.
>>14602096
Is that shit sentient? I've seen people say the tail evolves during the movie.

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>>14602776
>>14602782

>>14603334
>Wanna know why I attacked Tokyo? This fucking grinning faggot on my tail.

>>14603432
BARAGON IS NOT OBSCURE DELETE THIS REEEEEEEEEE

>>14601973
Try to arm wrestle him

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>>14603432
Good stuff

>>14603473
True. Baragon is popular in Japan and fought Godzilla in GMK.

>>14602989
the most distinct one has got to be Godzilla V. Mechagodzilla
that shit is so funky it OOZES the 70's

Annozilla CG breakdown

https://youtu.be/66SAVZ4JxY8

>>14603623
How come fucking Toho can do better CGI than all of Hollywood?

>>14603629
just because you pay for more cooks in your kitchen, doesn't mean they can make a better salad, much less will they have the same perception of what kind of salad you want

>>14603623
wtf? I could've sworn they were using real tanks instead of CGI.

And that scene where a family gets crushed by furniture was the most terrifying scene in the whole movie.

>>14603690
>don't worry my dears we'll see your father soon
that shit was so bleak in '54

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Why does Mothra turn transparent briefly in this scene? Given the wackier tone of this one movie I thought maybe it was some subtle jokey reference to a goof in the older films but I can't really remember Mothra turning transparent in her first movie or the Godzilla vs. Mothra one.

If it's a genuine goof, how can you make this compositing mistake using what I assume are digital tools?
>>14602843
Nigger I NEVER watch dubs of asian films and always find them insufferable. It's obviously comedic in a way that even the most over the top 90s Gamera scenes never even vaguely approached. Even the acting of the characters is constantly exaggerated in a way that gives everything a sillier tone. And hell even the suits look cartoonier than usual.

I'm not saying it has no serious moments because it does, it's just one of the sillier films. It's just subtler about the comedy than, say, Godzilla doing a little victory dance or laughing at Rodan for getting sprayed by Mothra only to meet the same fate.
>>14602088
'54 & Tokyo SOS.

>>14602328
people are biased because 1. japanese cg tends to be worse and perhaps more importantly 2. godzilla kept this one tradition alive for ages and it was nice to have one popular franchise that still did it

>>14603863
Also looking at >>14603623 it looks like they're trying to make the CG Godzilla look like a guy in a suit which is really funny

>>14603425
That's a myth.

>>14602989
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla. Same composer as Megaguirus, but she had a bigger orchestra at her disposal. Excellent score.

>>14603623
That looks surprisingly decent. Granted, I'm only looking at a small YT screen with tired eyes.

>tfw casuals still think it's a suit and harp on that

anyone want more spoilers?

>>14603963
Yes please!

>>14603985
anything in particular?

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>>14603724
Kaneko ran out of time on GMK. He wanted more so that he could make a smoother experience, though Toho refused. They wanted the film out on schedule and Kaneko has been somewhat open about that denial and lack of opportunity to get brush up on his project. He seemed really disappointed.

The dubs for Mothra vs Godzilla, Ghidorah, and Monster Zero are good.

Tokyo SOS is one of your favourites? Where do the other Honda films fall on your list?

>>14604003
Could you describe each action scene, how they play out, the good part/bad part about each scene, and your favorite action scene?

>>14604033
each action scene brings a new stage of development of an ever growing G stumbling through various J cities. by the time the J military gets their shit together enough to put a real attack on G (following the US's lead), G's fully grown (kinda) and shows off a bunch of badass attacks that are basically enough for me to want to watch the whole movie again, despite the great deal of boring shit it's packed with.

According to Jimpluff, or at least what he believes to be the case, the reason for the moments of noticeably weak CGI in Shin Godzilla is because lesser digital companies had to be called in to handle some scenes. Probably due to time and budget issues, he added. And Godzilla's early forms continues to be called the worst of the effects. Kind of crazy how that can exist along some of the more amazing material.

>>14604044
Could you elaborate on the "boring shit"?
What made you feel they were boring?

Cuck at the Hollywood Reporter is complaining about not enough female roles, too much talking, and negative portrayal of Americans

>>14604047
i can definitely confirm the great majority of the CG in this movie was garbage. but that doesn't break the movie for me.

>>14604055
you are literally thrown into the J bureaucratic process for 60% of the movie.

granted it's about 60% propaganda and 20% satire.

>>14604047
But the scenes with the early forms were the best scenes in the movie tho.

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>>14604058
This honestly makes me worried what the director of Legendary's Godzilla sequel will be pressured to do. Hollywood does have to pander to these progressive pushing pansies sadly or else all they'll think about is how offended they are at a movie and give a movie a bad name. Hopefully this doesn't happen, especially not in a Godzilla movie.

>>14604059
Did we see the same movie? You mean the great majority of the CG was excellent. Some scenes blow Godzilla 2014 out of the water.

>>14604067
opinions, i guess.

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>>14604058
How many women are in high Japanese government positions? Maybe it's a reflection of reality, which was Anno's goal in his movie.

And isn't the United States' portrayal balanced? It's not like they want to nuke Tokyo for the heck of it. They want to prevent Godzilla from further evolving and putting the whole world at risk. And the indecisiveness of the Japanese government created the situation. Additionally, the US assists in the final battle with Godzilla and some Americans felt bad about the possibility of having to nuke Japan again. I'm led to believe that the Hollywood Reporter's reviewer isn't all that fluent in Japanese.

Also, shootout to the anon that colored pic related

>>14604062
Mothra was already the feminist pandering we have today, only decades ahead of the curve.

>>14604058
There are 3 major female characters and each have a strong presence and waifu potential.
A lot of talking but they're interesting as fuck.
The US military was based. The government? Maybe, but I was convinced that they had no other choice than to do what they were planning to do.

>>14604077
Hiromi-san is my waifu.

>>14604062
In before Mary Sue protagonist leading the sequel to Godzilla '14. A white female of course. She'll order everyone else around and upstage all the other characters with no problem and no concern for experience and background, especially the male characters, demonstrating how she is an independent woman who needs no man. Pinnacle of the modern world, men will look incompetent before her and adore hee. There will be a woman stuffed in every corner, regardless of whether it makes sense or not. Ew...

>>14604059
>60% propaganda

Woah. Is this true?

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>>14604098
You tell me, anon.
http://pastebin.com/pW30aaHq

>>14604098
you just get a lot of the j-folk "ganbare"-ing their way through stuff. just another message to the masses.

>>14604093
What the fuck is Aliens.

So who here's actually seen it?
I thought there was waaaay too much talking and horrible closeups of people's faces. That's a good 80% of the movie. When you actually do see Godzilla though its fucking phenomenal. Except for the pollywog version. The cg was godawful.

>>14604236
It's like people inherently treat anything that isn't Godzilla in Godzilla movie as a bad thing. With no regards to quality. What were the personalities of the characters? How was the dialogue? Did it have good pacing and editing?

>>14603629
Motion capture of an actual prop.

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>>14604250
Objectification...?

>>14604079
Mothra didn't have rainbowhair and niether of the twins were vegan trannies, plus her movie was actually good.
Most feminists would want her to be as ugly as Battra anyways.

>>14604247
Yeah let me get into better detail.
The movie starts out quickly enough with an unidentified creature or thing in the water and there's a lot of discussion about what to do about it. Most of the scenes are people discussing what to do for what seems like forever in between small snippets of Godzilla's progression and destruction of the city. I see what they were going for, show indecisiveness, poor judgement, pointless discussions on the matter, etc etc. But it goes on for WAY too long. This is the majority of the movie. There are hardly any scenes of humans outside of a boardroom, except for the few bits where they attack Godzilla. They could have trimmed the fat a hell of a lot with these scenes. On top of that, most of the dialogue is filmed SUPER ZOOMED IN ON PEOPLE'S FACES. Its nauseating. No one really has any personality other than their job title that shows up on the screen for a brief second. The only one that is likeable and has any personality is the American/Japanese woman who spouts random English lines sometimes. She's sassy and cool, where everyone else is duller than a rock.
If they trimmed down these scenes, had more Godzilla bits, and used CG a bit more sparingly, I would have loved it. As it is I can only say I liked it for the bodyhorror Godzilla that actually does fill you dread in some scenes. Oh and Godzilla's defeat felt kinda anticlimactic.

>>14604236 's right. though i liked all G's stages.

>>14604247
anon, trust. only about 3 characters actually stand out as people, rather than rank-holders. and though, patterson was hot, her English was just dreadful to listen to.

>>14604272
Is it true they mention something about him absorbing ambient energy, like blackouts in ares he walks through before he even reaches the power poles?

>>14604272
also
>oh look, another group corridor walk scene

>>14604247
There's very few backstories for the characters like are they married, do they have kids, etc. But they all have distinct personalities and in the end you start caring for the characters.
The dialogue is what makes this movie interesting, although it's tough to understand it without subtitles if you're not a native speaker of Japanese.
Good pacing and editing? We're talking about the Master Anno here!

>>14604277
My Japanese is so-so, but yes there is a scene where all the power around Godzilla goes out, and when they try to send a camera probe in to see what's going on, it gets fried. Something about an electromagnetic field.

>>14604272
>>14604285
These two extremes really make me wonder. People who are positive about the film praise the human drama and people not so impressed cite it as a negative. Maybe most Westerners don't have a strong enough grasp of Japanese. Most people would find a dialogue heavy foreign fikn tedious if they don't understand the language.

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>>14604269
>Mothra didn't have rainbowhair

>>14604288
The probe was shot down by Godzilla's back lasers actually. It works as a sort of CIWS even when he's dormant, and they exploit this in the final battle where they make him fire a fuck ton of lasers and use up stamina.

>>14604269
Mothras wings are the rainbow hair of the kaiju world
Also her movie was alright but when she entered the greater Toho kaiju world she became a clear feminist mary sue

>>14604302
People who are positive about the human scenes both understand Japanese and appreciate good movies.

People who use "boring humans" unironically are manchildren who don't actually like film and who would be better off watching Kaiju Big Battel wrestling.

>>14604302
I plan to give it a rewatch once some subtitles are out, but I don't think my opinion will change much. The scenes were still excessive, samey, and the camera zooms get very obnoxious. Once in a while Anno will through in a more interesting or 'artsy' angle like even he's getting bored of cutting from "face filling the entire screen" to "another face filling the entire screen"
>>14604315
So THATS what they were talking about. Makes sense.

>>14604321
Did you consider Final Wars and 2014?
Because those epitomize "boring humans"

>>14604302
Not only is there a lot of dialogue, but they talk really fast too. I think the best way for Westerners to see this film is dubbed, since it conveys a lot more information than subtitles.

>>14604319
> Also her movie was alright but when she entered the greater Toho kaiju world she became a clear feminist mary sue

How? Godzilla killed Imago Mothra in MvG '64 and one of her offspring died in-between films due to injuries received at the hands of Godzilla. And of course Godzilla was defeated in his first couple of clashes with her, he was still the villain. Mothra was onky overpowered in the Heisei films.

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>>14604079
>>14604269
The very simplest core of the modern trendy feminist/social justice movement is not bad and anime/manga/japanese nerdshit have had those messages since forever. Plenty of popular anime and manga has (among other things) messages that preach gender and racial equality of opportunity, unity regardless of in-born traits etc. The behavior of modern SJWs reminds me a lot of what old Black Panthers members said about the new party that are using their name: instead of getting together out of a love for their fellow black people, they're doing it to hate on white people.

The core of what nu-males like Jonathan McIntosh say isn't inherently evil and wrong, it's just so covered up in hate, racism/sexism and just pure garbage that it becomes insufferable. All of his vlogs and tweets about "toxic masculinity" are trying to make a point that Tezuka made in the 60s much better.

All the "hegemony of toxic patriarchal colonialist whiteness power plus prejudice" newspeak racial bullshit, at its core, has the same sort of message that Shotaro Ishinomori tried many times to get across, but once again it's focused far more on hate and thus it becomes unbearable. Not to mention Tezuka & Ishinomori, while being very left wing, also acknowledged that Japan can be racist towards whites which SJWs never would.

Same with movies. Back in the day a movie could just have a strong female lead or a cool black lead and that was nice... but now they have to shill it by baiting /pol/ types and then using their rage to try and get more publicity to the film. It's not about spreading love and acceptance but about spreading hate for "I'm not a bigot like YOU" smugness points, outrage publicity & pity-buys.

Progress works a lot like you being raped by me: you just shut up and let it happen.

>>14604329
Yes. I love 2014. I enjoy Final Wars up to the thirty minute mark, just because it suddenly feels like it's just going though the motions. The problem is that the human fights are poorly choreographed and last twice as long as the monster fights (which are also poor) in a movie that has a dozen monsters.

>>14604329
I find the human element of Godzilla '14 painfully dull. And it's a dependent on that element more than most Godzilla films.

Not a fan of Final Wars either.

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>>14604304
>oh no, ghidorah is winning
>LET'S JUST GO BACK IN TIME AND KILL YOUNG GHIDORAH BECAUSE MARY SUE xD
God I hate that movie

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>>14604008
>Kaneko ran out of time on GMK. He wanted more so that he could make a smoother experience, though Toho refused. They wanted the film out on schedule and Kaneko has been somewhat open about that denial and lack of opportunity to get brush up on his project. He seemed really disappointed.
Do you have a source to where he said this? I wanna see.

Regardless I guess it is a mistake and not a self-mocking reference... that sucks, it would've been great if everything was a little more polished. The film has a great atmosphere but something just feels a little too cheap about the fight scenes. I'm not sure how you can make the mistake of "temporary transparency" but then, I've never in my life done special effects.

I've not seen all the Honda films yet but IMO Godzilla vs. Mothra (and the original Mothra) are both harmed by Mothra herself not being a very interesting monster in terms of abilities (though Mothra vs. Godzilla was still a fun movie and the Godzilla scenes were really great and it was cool seeing Godzilla actually get enveloped in electricity effects). The first Ghidorah was charming and funny at the end but I also felt like the fight could've merged goofiness and epicness better given how much King Ghidorah was hyped up as this ultimate threat.

I'll have to watch the others but I dunno which one to go for. The War of the Gargantuas? The Ghidorah sequel in space? Just skip to Destroy All Monsters? I dunno which one would appeal to me more based on my taste.

>>14604368
Based on your taste you should stop watching any toku that isn't Heisei Gamera and then stop using these threads as your blog.

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>>14604383
Calm down son.

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>>14604368
Keith (kpa) of Sci-Fi Japan and TK, who is a reliable source of information, had this to say on the matter:

> Toho has always maintained a lot of control over their Godzilla movies; most of the directors they've used were Toho employees brought up in the studio system. Shusuke Kaneko is different; he's an independent filmmaker who makes movies for several different studios. Toho was a bit nervous bringing in an "outsider" to direct a Godzilla film because that's not how they generally operate. Kaneko's popularity convinced them to give it a shot (though they did have him make PYROKINESIS first to show he could do a movie Toho's way) but the deal was only for the one Godzilla film.

> Kaneko said there were pros and cons working for Toho. He preferred the longer schedule and creative control Daiei and other studios offered, but Toho provided higher budgets and the chance to work on Godzilla.

> Toho was very happy with GMK. It was the most profitable Millennium film, it received the most critical praise in Japan and the US, and it has played well outside Japan (it's the most theatrically rented Godzilla film in the US from Sony's repertory division). Rather than any kind of backlash from Japanese fans, ticket sales actually went up weeks into the film's run based on positive word-of-mouth... and that's rare for any movie. Toho asked Kaneko about doing the 2002 Godzilla film but he was already signed to direct the musical comedy WHEN YOU SING OF LOVE for Shochiku so Toho went back to their usual system and brought back Masaaki Tezuka to make GxMG.

> If the Godzilla series had continued beyond 2004 we likely would have seen Kaneko do another one. He did direct AZUMI 2 for Toho in 2005.

But I can't seem to find the exact quote I'm looking for though.

Out of ten stars, what would you give Mothra vs Godzilla and Ghidorah?

>>14604383
I want to see anon's reaction to Godzilla vs Hedorah first.

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>>14604383

I suspect he's Billy up to new tricks.
When he was bitching about Showa Riders yesterday he overplayed his hand.

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>>14604421
Billy?

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>>14604334

Thank you.

>>14604405

>eraserhead

My nigga

>>14604077
>How many women are in high Japanese government positions?
There are a few in the upper house and the Governor of Tokyo is a woman. Otherwise, not much. Still a very patriarchal society.

>>14604330
>I think the best way for Westerners to see this film is dubbed, since it conveys a lot more information than subtitles.
Retard.
Not every English speaker has the reading proficiency of a 2nd grader like most Americunts do.

>>14604541
No, I mean, you have to cut a lot of information for subtitles to fit the screen. You can keep most of the info with dubs and be as informative as the original Japanese dialogue.

>>14604558
>you have to cut a lot of information for subtitles to fit the screen
[citation needed]

>>14604334
"toxic masculinity
That's definitely a thing though. Living in a family with a Puerto Rican dad, you basically got shamed for not going out there and getting some tail. Oh, want to be an engineer because of your dumb mecha shows? Why not get a real job? Shit gets tiring man, I just wanna work on robutts.

Also the actual number of controversial feminists is way lower than people make it out to be, and some (like fucking TERFs) are even hated on by feminists. There are fucking vocal ass people with lots of hate out there, but there's no fucking WAY that's the core. Majority is out there now to start a conversation out there, not to take away from stuff.

That said, that guy is fucking crazy for judging Japan considering that that's just how the government is right now, and Godzilla films have always had too much talking. Also cuck is such a fucking awful word, just rolls off the tongue all bad.

>>14604614

Go away spic

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>>14604614
I agree with everything here.

>>14604614
so your dad wants you to get a real job and get laid instead of being a student forever

wow what a jerk

>>14604618
Shhh, let's leave the shitposting for the next thread. I want to hear what more people think about the movie.

>>14604626
Actually wanted me to work as some mechanic since it gets more of a "wow" factor, but fuck that, engineering is rad and makes like 10x more moolah. Enough blogging though, come on.

>>14604047
Can confirm, but ended up being alright. Makes me wonder if the next movie will either go back to more practical effects or just paying the extra cash for better CG.

>>14601890
Makes me wonder if the next movie will either go back to more practical effects or just paying the extra cash for better CG.
I really hope they try to give the giant puppet idea another go.

>>14604640
Well I fucked that up.

>>14604640
Did you mess up the quoting there?
And eh, what giant puppet thing? Literally a suit on strings?

>>14604614
> Defends Western feminism despite it having both outlived it's original purpose and, ironically, being toxic.
> Engineering isn't a real job. What? Besides, who do you think dominates this field?
> Even feminists will shame men for me not having a girlfriend or still being a virgin. And most people expect you to have someone by a certain age. Don't blame masculinity. Whether there's a "big bad all powerful patriarchy" or not, people will always have expectations of you. Get used to it

>>14604650
Yeah I'm a dirty phone poster. And yeah I'm talking about the fact they were going to use a twelve-foot puppet for way more scenes but couldn't get it to work. I don't think it would have been just strings, for the Colossal Titan they had puppeteers dressed in green suits manipulating it by hand and they composited the puppet element into the scenes.

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>>14604667
If Higuchi had been able to use the puppet as originally planned, whatever CGI they did use would have likely looked much better than it already does. Having to switch mid-production and go almost entirely CGI probably pushed the special effects team to the absolute limit I'm sure. Remember, a few months ago Higuchi admitted to being behind schedule (explaining the dry spell of no information) and that effects improved between the trailers and tv spots. Must have been stressful.

You're all niggafags for bringing identity politics to a thread about a radioactive lizard. Go back to /pol/, so you can complain about those lolcows and insufferable peasants.

>>14604667

Toho is so meddling with these things, it's like they hate money or something.

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Now that I've seen the figure, I can definitely say I dig the design. Love the gaping mouth and tiny arms (which ironically makes ShinG look closer to a dino).

>>14604745
My one gripe is the feet, how do those puny things hold him up

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What the fuck are you faggots doing? Writing fucking novels on SJW and feminist bullshit? Let this fucking thread die in peace. If there's nothing to discuss about Godzilla, just drop it. Stop trolling with this stupid shit and stop eating it up and responding. Fuck off to TK or MZ or /pol/ or wherever you came from. Stop clogging up this board and this thread with your shit.

>>14604763
Yeah why do they insist on putting tiny dino feet on a bulky monster? Same thing with GMK Ghidorah.

>>14604763
Yeah, they don't look like they can support all that mass but I still like it. The problem that remains to me are the eyes (in the trailers) which sometimes look dopey since the whites are really clean for some reason. I haven't seen the film so I'm not sure.

>>14604415
>Out of ten stars, what would you give Mothra vs Godzilla and Ghidorah?
I'd honestly have to rewatch them as it's been years, I'm mainly going by memories here.

Thanks for the quote anyway, even if it's not the director quote I wanted it's still interesting..
>>14604614
"Toxic masculinity" is just too buzzwordy; there's some truth behind the idea but it's generally only used by pretentious college students and/or try-hard internet kids.

I just see it a matter of channeling masculine drives into doing productive things vs. being a useless selfish cunt and caring about taking down others above all else. It's the message Astro Boy's Greatest Robot arc got across in the 60s through dramatic storytelling and a message One Punch Man gets across today through social satire.
>>14604519
The baby is my favorite animatronic ever.

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Who will have the resolve to wait until the movie legally releases in their country and who will give into the temptations of the leaks that we'll probably get next week or the week after? [spoilers] don't you anons want to support the official release and experience kaiju kino on the big screen [/spoiler]

>>14604819
Why not both? I'll watch a leak and still go to the theater.

But only if there are decent subs.

>>14603629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL6hp8BKB24
They're really not. Hollywood's been doing that for awhile too. Around n par more then anything else.

Not to knock ShinG's model, though. Making a suit instead of a creature was insane. In motion is a different story, but I actually gotta watch the thing first.

>>14604640
>>14604667
>>14604700
>I really hope they try to give the giant puppet idea another go.
Anyone got a link to Higuchi talking about the giant puppet?

>>14604058
Go choke on a dick NiggaCuntFag.

>>14605348

>b-baka Tumblr-senpai, it's not like I like you or anything

>>14604819
I'll just wait until a decent-enough quality camrip is available. I know the spoilers, only thing I don't have is the visuals and sounds to go with them.

>>14604823
even ip man 3 got day 1 subs with original audio

come the fuck on japan get with the times

>>14606140
Japanese piracy laws are ridiculous. Either a hefty fine or 10 years in prison. Possibly both.

>>14606157
i wasn't talking piracy

I meant even AMC hosted ip man 3 with subs and original audio at least a week before it came out in chinese theatres

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>>14604825
>Shilling for kikewood when there are hundreds upon hundreds of examples of shit cgi any idiot with a browser can find
Billy's retardation is spreading like Zirka in a florida suburb.

>>14604745
I bet Bandai will release a purple atomic breath version later on.

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How long before one of those tail-men evolves into Shin Godzooky?

The JSDF gives Shin Godzilla all they've got and it doesn't even scratch him.
The US Air Force drops a bunker buster on him and it penetrates his skin and he bleeds.
Do you think this makes sense and is realistic?
Does it make Shin Goji look too weak?
Do you think bunker busters could damage previous Showa and Heisei Gojis?

>>14606750
Electricity nearly bested Showa Godzilla before he grew immune to it. Heisei Godzilla was nearly taken down by cadmium and anti-nuclear bacteria.

But Shin Godzilla was still evolving. Maybe he needed more time to mature.

>>14606773
Electricity only affected Godzilla in two showa movies. All others he didn't care (Godzilla 1954) or got stronger(Ebirah, vs MechaG)

I've always felt that some human weapons do affect Godzilla like the missiles on G2000, but his healing makes that null and does nothing but annoy him in the long run. I feel like that is the case in this movie based on descriptions

>>14606750
Shin is the Realistic Toho Godzilla, while G14 was the realistic American Godzilla(2.0).

Shin has a very thin layer of skin/"armor" on his body, and being hit by an explosive that's designed to dig/penetrate underground/the ground and explode, would do some damage to him.

What I heard was that it catches between his spines, and hits the weak area on his back, so it's understandable why it would damage Shin.

Depends on which Showa Godzilla.

Heisei was pure muscle and Armour, so I would guess that he would feel it, but not be hurt by it.

>>14604058
The defence minister i.e. HEAD OF THE SDF is a woman, one of the most important researchers in the Yaguchi team is a woman, and the future POTUS is a fucking woman, what more do they want?

>>14603425
>sentient
Read the fucking pastebin in the OP, retard.

>>14604277
No

>>14604288
>yes

Okay this dumbfuck doesn't understand japanese, explains his shitposting in >>14604272

Seeing Shin on the big screen was pure eye-candy. Even if you watch the camrip when it comes out, do yourself a favor and see it in theaters if it's coming to a theater near you.

>>14605348
if you don't have the guts to type out nigger fully then fuck off or don't use it.

>>14606937
Goji54 attempts to walk through the wires and quickly backs away. He then proceeds to burn/tear down the towers, avoiding the wires themselves. Later during his rampage, he is hesitant about walking through more wires and screeches angrily when he is electrocuted.

In King Kong vs Godzilla, electricity successfully keeps him outside of populated areas.

In Mothra vs Godzilla, the electric trap almost takes him down. But human arrogance gives him an opportunity to recover.

By Sea Monster he's immune and by MechaGodzilla he uses it as a power source.

There are fujoshis on twitter shlicking to Shin Godzilla characters haha. But I know where they're coming from. Manly men in suits doing manly things, what's not to like?

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>>14604415
>>14604811
I'm rewatching Mothra and I'm at the end and... honestly I enjoy it more now that I know what to expect and could pay attention to the smaller things (ex. the first battle is just a dying old lady moth trying and failing to take down Godzilla and not a super-epic full blown kaiju fight).

The whole moral of humanity coming together may be seen as cheesy and shallow by many people today, but if this movie was made now some crazy journos would probably take issue with the human protagonists privilegesplaining to the oppressed islanders and not allowing them their POC anger or something (along with getting mad that the tribals are Japanese actors with painted skin) and how it's teaching Japanese kids to be shitlords.

Basically what I'm saying is that the super-simple cliche message of a 60s family film feels refreshing and likable after dealing with so much political bullshit as of late which is an experience I hadn't gone through when I first watched the movie.

And once again not expecting some super-epic monster showdown made the monster scenes more likable. The miniatures are handled well and some of the "military vs. Godzilla" scenes are like more over-the-top and extravagant versions of '54 scenes (ex. you actually see the electricity course through Godzilla, the towers blow up instead of just being town down). The whole idea of Godzilla being like some man-created godly vengeance towards itself worked well with the cartoonishly assholish businessman getting his shit ruined. The monster scenes are also an improvement over '61's Mothra.

It's good... I'd say around 4 stars.

>>14607294
Do you mean the human characters or Godzilla himself? I thought only gay furries wanted to fuck the latter.

>>14607339
I mean the human characters. I don't even know where I should go to find furries

>>14607339
Anon, even though I haven't seen the movie myself, I'm pretty sure Godzilla has never worn a suit in it...

>>14607309
Four out of what?

>>14607354
Ten.

>>14607354
5

Note that I don't judge all movies by the same standard so this to me means "how good this movie was at being a family film about giant monsters" and not how it holds up to dead serious monocle movies.

>>14607366
Get out
>>14607371
Either way it's around the 3-4 range, it's well executed but I still feel Mothra vs. Godzilla could've been done better.

>>14607294
>fujoshis
So, is there gay fanart yet?

Pics?

>>14607399
I saw a fake doujinshi cover featuring the 2 main characters, but it was meant to be a joke and she's not gonna actually make it. I can't seem to find it though. Search 内閣腐 on twitter, this is the tag for Shin Godzilla related fujoshi content apparently.

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>>14607417
Found it

>>14607467
Yeah that's the one!

>>14603623
The explosions suck.

>>14604334
Nice motte and bailey argument you have there faggot. You wouldn't mind I I pointed it out would you?

http://philpapers.org/archive/SHATVO-2.pdf

Also, not, feminism i inherently bad. Social Justice is inherently disastrous. It is fucked up all the way down to the philosophical level. It makes factual assumptions that are just plain true. It is dishonest in every way. Just like your intellectually dishonest post. That's weak sauce apologia.

>>14604614
No it isn't. You're a wuss with an inferiority complex, so you have to shield yourself from your perceived betters by projecting toxicity onto them.

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>>14607374
>>14607309
>>14604415
Rewtached the first Ghidorah too. My only significant issues are that Godzilla didn't use his nuclear breath at all during the final fight, and the way they only decided to stop recycling Godzilla's screams for Rodan halfway. But I'd rather blame Toho and deadlines for that than Honda or Tsuburaya; it looks like they tried their best with what they were given (I mean, this came out the same year as Mothra so some rush work is to be expected)

The comedy worked, the action worked, it was a pretty good monster movie for what it was.
>>14607658
I'll read your link; I've spent ages giving the time of day to the arguments of everyone from radfems to white nationalists so why not.

But just so you know I'm all for equality of opportunity, not diversity quotas or the idea that men and women are biologically the same.

>>14607676
>I'm gonna fuck this worm
>No Rodan, don't fuck that worm

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I'll be honest, I skipped to the monster scenes of this movie because I didn't feel like sitting through all the space sci-fi stuff as it's not what I watch Godzilla movies for.

But the final scene where the aliens mind-control the monsters into fucking everything up? From all I've seen of Tsuburaya's effects work so far, this is probably the coolest and looks like the most highly labored too.

At least, that's from my newfag perspective - I've never in my life worked on anything of the sort so to people with more knowledge than me I could very well sound like Theron Martin from ANN talking about animation.

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>>14607721
As far as space stuff goes I'm kinda interested in this one because Honda said it's his favorite film that he directed and the mole robot looks neat.

>>14607745
goddamn, I thought the heisei mogura looked kinda naff, but I can definitely see how they improved on their old design.

>>14607751
'57; not much 'hardcore badass mecha' to take onspiration from.

>>14607759
I mean, sure, fair point, but I must admit I do have much more respect for the design of heisei's version now.


In a tangentially related note, what do you guys think Shin Mechagozilla would(maybe will?) be like? Grey goo nanomachines modeled after shin G's cells?

>>14607692
Do you think Rodan fantasizes about Mothra getting on his back again?

>>14607751
>>14607759
>>14607775
Eat a dick, Showa Mogera is cool. It's the Heisei one that looks like ass.

>>14607721
>skipping the space scenes
But that stuff is great.

>>14607780
Shin goji probably has a dick that eats

Did we run out of goji things to talk about yet?

>>14607877
Nope, but I wish those niggerfaggotwhores stop talking about identity politics.

How soon do you think we'll get decent camrips?

>>14607883
why? dont you identify as a 90 000 ton kaiju?

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>>14607901

>>14607721
The rest of the movie is actually really good, and you should watch it all the way through at least once.

>>14608040
This, it has one of the best human plots and leads, at least definitely one of the most fun ones. And it's not all sci-fi.

>>14608060
Yeah the cast is one of the best casts.

Also don't really think of it as a Godzilla movie and more as a space adventure movie with Godzilla in it. Really it didn't start becoming the "Godzilla series" until the 70's.

>>14607721
What a dumbass. The humans are great and the sci-fi elements are amazing

>>14608040
>>14608060
>>14608075
>>14608078
I have nothing better to do for the next 4 hours so I'm gonna watch it

My friend in Taiwan said she already seen copies on DVD at someone's booth at the biggest night market in Taipei. It was a blank disc with the name written on with marker.

It won't be long now lads!!!

>>14608263
she needs to mail one to you now

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>>14608263
>someone takes the disc home
>it's the original Godzilla
>turns into a snuff film

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>>14608263
Important question: is she hot?

>>14608328
>>14608400

Fuck waiting on mail, i told her she needs to go back buy it and rip it and upload to my mega.

I wouldn't say hot but she's cute. She's 26 but looks like 15-16. But her younger sister is reverse. She's 19 but looks 30s.....

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>>14607676
> Appreciates Honda's first several Godzilla films and considers them good
> For equality, but not insane

I think I'm starting to like you. Would you by chance be a woman? We need to work on Monster Zero though.

Anyway, what do you think of Honda as a director and how (objectively speaking) do you feel Tsuburaya's work holds up? If you had to recommend Godzilla films to casual viewers, would these be it?

>>14608465
Yes, do it. Get her to buy that shit and upload it and be the hero that we need. Also have her send cute pictures.

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So what do you want the anime to be like? Shonen CUHRAZY, Slice of Life with kaiju, somehow make it a harem, or anime adaptations of one of the eras?

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>>14608590
I'm expecting an OVA. Something like three episodes. See what kind of an audience they might have. Or perhaps the Shin Chan crossover was the test.

It would be neat if Studio khara has been doing the animation this entire time and we don't know about it. I'm expecting either Heisei Godzilla (Toho's go to design) or ShinGoji to be used (most recent incarnation and associated with an insanely successful film).

Anyway, I want it to be something serious. Not another Godzilla Island type deal. And I want it to use some of the lesser monsters like Varan, Manda, and Gorosaurus.

>>14608590
A collection of stories with different directors ranging from the civilian perspective of living with the aftermath of an attack to a day in the life of a kaiju.

>>14608614
I like this idea. Reminds me of that Batman: Gotham Knight compilation that got released back when The Dark Knight was opening. I think there was also Green Lantern: Emerald Knights released around the time of that 2011 Green Lantern clunker.

I'd love to see a compilation by different animation studios... Madhouse, Khara, I.G, etc.

Guys I need a good pic for a shin godzilla shirt.
can you post some with good res?

Done. The humans vs. aliens stuff was alright and did help with build-up; but what I found by far the most surprising is how the very last monster scene was rushed as hell (complete with multiple shots of blatantly-visible wires), and yet the one right before that was one of the most impressively done 'monsters smashing shit up' scenes I've seen in any of these movies. The contrast was pretty fucking nuts.

Were Toho just really unforgivable with deadlines by this point?

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>>14608659
Forgot pic.

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>>14608665
Seriously, this was probably the best monster scene of these two Ghidorah movies followed by what is likely the worst.

>>14608659
It's lower budget than you might initially suspect. At the time it was intended to be the franchise finale, using all of the suits/props that they still had in working order to give it a big sendoff without spending a lot of money on it. It's not like they were throwing everything and the kitchen sink in to try to revive the franchise, that's just what happened on accident.

>>14608659
> Were Toho just really unforgivable with deadlines by this point?
Toho deadlines were really tight. We don't give Honda and his crew enough credit for what they were able to consistently accomplish with such little time and small budget. Plus, Toho was getting stenchy with the money they were willing to allow for these types of films (Monster Zero is the first film to use stock footage). I feel even worse for a Jun Fukuda, he had only half the budgets Honda got to work with.

>>14608676
Not that anon, but I didn't know this. I knew that Destroy All Monsters was originally going to be the final film, but that obviously didn't happen. How many other times has the Godzilla franchise planned to be stopped, only for it to continue in popularity until Toho finally ceded to waning popularity and closed production for extended hiatuses?

>>14608676
> At the time it was intended to be the franchise finale, using all of the suits/props that they still had in working order to give it a big sendoff without spending a lot of money on it.

Sauce? Never heard this from anyone before.

>>14608659
Well, most of the Rodan parts of the pre-finale destruction scene were lifted from the Rodan movie, so yeah, there were definitely time and budget constraints.

Upon a rewatch, the last one also had visible strings - I just didn't even notice them because the overall fight was way more well done.

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>>14608726
Dammit, forgot pic again.

>>14608726
>>1460873
Special Edition for Godzilla movies when?

>>14608700
I had heard that too, don't remember where.

>>14608737
Right now

>>14608737
Didn't one home video release of Rodan edit out most of the wires? I saw some people complaining about it, saying it's an unnecessary change.

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Now that I think about it, maybe part of the reason the strings are really visible now is that the image is far clearer as a result of a remaster. On the other hand, I have no idea what films looked like in theaters back in the 60s and if the image clarity improved the same way TVs did.

>>14608753
Source?

>>14608753
The original American release of Rodan didn't have the visible wires. Whoever was in charge of editing and distributing it removed them (they never revealed how).

>>14608738
David Kalat doesn't mention it in the Critical History of Godzilla, although he does bring up that DAM was meant to be the last film. Interesting oversight assuming anon's claim is true.

>>14608786
http://exploderbutton.com/exploder/sky-monster-redone-whither-the-wires-rodan/

>>14608803
>>14608790
Yeah, I don't remember visible wires in the American cut. Especially not to this extent.

>>14608687
>>14608700
I want to say that the commentary track on the Destroy All Monsters blu ray was where I learned it, but now you guys are making me doubt myself.

You can see a lot of evidence of cost-cutting in the movie, like the fact that not all the monsters who are shown arriving at the final battle actually participate in it and the monsters' international attacks being confined to relatively small sets compared to the monster rampages in previous movies. It's certainly more well done than Godzilla vs. Megalon and some of the other later showa movies, but there's still a lot of "get mileage out of props and footage that we already have" stuff in Destroy All Monsters.

>>14608826
Wait? Are you saying Monster Zero or Destroy All Monsters was meant to be the finale? If you're talking about the latter, you're correct. Toho intended to end things with DAM. The Japanese film industry was dying (people moved onto television) and Godzilla films were drawing smaller and smaller audiences as a result. Honda had a lot of neat ideas for the film, however, budget restrictions and objections from Toho prevented them from being used.

>>14608837
Disregard everything, I am a moron.

>>14601890
>SEALDs-style throngs of misguided left-wingers banging on drums yelling "PROTECT GODZILLA"

Is this an analogy for refugees?

>>14602768
This meme is bad and you should feel bad.

>>14608914
godzilla dindu nuffn

>>14608914
>>14608921

Well, we now know exactly how most critics from the West will feel about Shin Godzilla:

> Disgusting, relentless nationalism, sexism, and racism surrounded by innumerable lifeless meetings and Asylum tier visual effects. Leave filmmaking and Godzilla to the civilized West.

>>14608590
Reverse harem featuring Mothra as MC and a bunch of kaiju trying to get her attention

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AHYUK
GODZILLA'S GOT A TINY WANG!
HYUK HYUK HYUK

>>14608982

So they are plebs with an agenda?

>>14608982
Yet most of the young fanbase kept saying 2014 Godzilla was a ripoff of Pacific Rim, since they believe Pacific Rim was the first use of Kaiju.

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>>14609019
> Being that ignorant despite having the internet at your disposal and the fact that Godzilla is a household name.

Wew lad

>>14609009
Has Toho even acknowledged Maguma's existence since his debut film?

>>14609019
I just punched a wall and now my hand hurts a bit

>>14609019
I thought kids/retards saw it more like this: Roland Emmerich invented Godzilla, Michael Bay invented Transformers, and the Asylum invented "monster vs monster" flicks. And PR and Godzilla14 ripped off all of them. But I may be out of the loop about what clueless plebs think.

>>14609046
>Has Toho even acknowledged Maguma's existence since his debut film?
They wanted to use him for DAM as the Kilaak base's guardian. So he almost made it into something else in a perhaps semi-useful role.

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>>14609014
Some North American Godzilla fans seem to have an agenda. Despite the positive reception Shin Godzilla has been enjoying, these fans take every opportunity to diss it and remind you of the "superiority" of Edwards' film. You'll normally find dislike of Shin Godzilla accompanied by praise of Godzilla '14 (its human characters included) and/or claims that Shin Godzilla is nationalistic and anti-American. So it's probably a bunch of people who didn't understand it, haven't seen it, or have something against Hideaki Anno and his work.

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>>14609206
That is so petty and shamefully autistic that is has to be true.

Is TK behind this movement?

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>>14609372
>Making up imaginary people so that there's somebody you can feel superior to.

Wow.

>>14609384
>If I post something snarky, no one will notice the blood from my anus.
I want tk to go and stay gone.

>>14609400
>>14609372
>No you guys, the boogeyman's totally real! I'm being victimized by real people! Please pay attention to me!

>>14609436
You do realize acting like a stereotypical tumblr poster only shuts down your "argument" before it gets off the ground, right?

Never mind, I already know the answer.

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>>14609372
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>>14609441

What are you talking about? What is TK?

>Godzilla made of Bones and Lava:
https://youtu.be/66SAVZ4JxY8

>>14609445
It's a fourm that this guy is trying to drive traffic to.
>>14609441
>>14609400
>>14609372
Ignore it and move on. It's just some shitposts trying to stir up forum drama to get page hits.

https://youtu.be/sfeFP9izmPg

>>14609384
>6 year olds saying Godzilla is a ripoff of Pacific Rim
>Nickolodeon trying to copyright the word Kaiju.

These things exist, you cunt.
>>14609046
>Planned for DAM
>Is part of the Kiryu timeline of Kaiju attacks
>Had a few figures and gashapons made of him
>appeared in a non-important cameo with MechniKong in Godzilland while Godzilla explained winter.

>>14609445
>DAM Goji
>Looks serious and forward to enemies.
>Revenge Goji, same.
>Hedorah Goji
>Eyes are in fucking two different time zones.

>>14609447
>10mil budget
>Looks better than the last 10 years of hollywood
>Not a single computer melted rendering him
It's almost as if you can't manufacture talent by throwing hundreds of millions at a project.

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>>14609470

What does this mean for the future of traditional tokusatsu? Gamera and Ultraman seem to be taking the CGI route as well.

>>14609478
>ultraman
May I direct you to Ultraman orb.
Still using the same styles from 1966. Suits and All.

>>14609447
>Godzilla just drops out of the sky
SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKERS

>>14609478
CGI is a tool to enhance toku. The people who think otherwise need to rewarch bayformers and '14.

>>14609478
Wasn't Gamera supposed to come out last year? I don't think that movie's actually happening. As far as I know that one teaser that came out to capitalize on Godzilla 2014 was the first and last mention of a new Gamera movie.

Ultraman's been using some CGI for a long time, but I don't think they're ever replacing the suit outright. It's just too cost-effective.

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>>14609480
What was that recent CGI trailer for?

http://youtu.be/Ybyzwa7Qxek

Might Tsuburaya be testing the waters?

>>14609492
No. Just a BS thing they did and has no relevance to any current series. And fans thought it was disturbing to see Ultraman with human anatomy.

>>14601890
>Eyes are in fucking two different time zones.
Kek. All the same suit, though. My favorite suit.

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>>14609505
I'll be honest, I've only seen Ultraman (1966), Ultraman Tiga, and pieces of UltraSeven. Orb looks... kind of convoluted and odd. I'm planning to watch Max or 80 and finish U7. Does anyone have any recommendations?

>>14609464
What did pic related mean by this?

>>14609491
That Gamera trailer was just a concept. Who knows if we'll ever see it.

The CG Ultraman thing is actually happening, I think. As a movie. But in the meantime we got my nigga Taguchi doing full-on man-in-suit practical like an OG motherfucker.

>>14609550
>Does anyone have any recommendations?

Nexus is fantastic if you prefer a more serious tone to the bulk of the franchise, even if the Kaiju designs leave much to be desired.

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>>14609552
> That Gamera trailer was just a concept. Who knows if we'll ever see it.
Kadokawa is exploring options on how to upstage Toho like they did in the Heisei and Millennium Era. Let's see how it plays out. They always let Toho shoot first.

>>14609552
for what it's worth Kadokawa's been going on a copyright spree on old copies of MST3k Gamera episodes
might be trying to keep the franchise as respectable-looking as possible for potential investors

>>14609578
Except, you know, Shout released MST3KvsGamera in a fucking tin collectors box with extras out the ass.
>>14609552
The CGI Ultraman is NOT happening.
>>14609567
The Gamera trailer could literally just be 'From the producers who saw 2014 Godzilla'

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>>14609578
> might be trying to keep the franchise as respectable-looking as possible for potential investors

They Can (NOT) Undo

>>14609601
no, I just mean the youtube stuff, and how it's gone down recently, specifically credited that Kadokawa got it pulled

I know Shout managed miracles of getting Sandy Frank on board and all that.

>>14609550
Ultraman's problem is that it never grows up. It keeps the bland moralfag protags / cast, decades old monsters, poor effects, etc and never adapts to the times like Riders did.

>>14609654
>gay men in metal hero suit riders
HEISEI BEST
SHOWA SUCK

>>14609654
You're repeating yourself again billy.

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>>14609654
I love the monsters (Zetton, Baltan, Pygmon) and cool with morally sound protagonists. Just feel the effects (that doesn't mean CGI) and writing could use improvement from what I see.

>>14609654
>le heisei Rider meme
>>>/krg/

>>14609552
>That Gamera trailer was just a concept. Who knows if we'll ever see it.

Then what was this even for?
http://www.gamera-50th.jp/

>>14609654
Sorry they don't make, use, butcher and recycle like Toei does.
>tfw the Golems from Zyuranger appeared in Toei Sailor Moon.
The Tsuburaya way is to 'treat the monsters and aliens as celebs in their own right'. It's been like this since Old Man Tsuburaya started his business.

>>14609668

>cool with morally sound protags

If you're already basically a child why be concerned about the writing? morally sound protagonists.

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>>14609691
>The Tsuburaya way is to 'treat the monsters and aliens as celebs in their own right'. It's been like this since Old Man Tsuburaya started his business.
The Old Man was a grandfather even to his creations.


But even he hated Maguma.

>>14609708
This scene out of context is hilarious.

>Godzilla: "Look, director, I already told you, I don't work with his kind."

>>14609708
...There's a fourth head emerging from Ghidorah.

>>14609708
>>14609736
>Tsuburaya be like look at my shit, bitches

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>>14609742
He's reaching his final form.

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>>14609759
My dick is reaching its final form.

>>14609550
>Does anyone have any recommendations?
Watch all of UltraSeven. It really is the best one.

>>14609567
>Kadokawa is exploring options on how to upstage Toho like they did in the Heisei and Millennium Era.

I mean, you say that, but even at their peak the Guardian of the Universe movies made less than the Godzilla movies of the same era, and Godzilla makes more on licensing and merchandising than Gamera could ever dream of. Gamera's doomed to always be seen as the also-ran.

>>14609679
Gamera came out in 1965, so the 50th anniversary was, indeed, last year.

Actually, looking at it, it says 2015 right there on the page. If they're not updating this then that just adds to the pile of evidence that this movie isn't actually in production.

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>>14609773
> I mean, you say that, but even at their peak the Guardian of the Universe movies made less than the Godzilla movies of the same era, and Godzilla makes more on licensing and merchandising than Gamera could ever dream of. Gamera's doomed to always be seen as the also-ran.

Quality, anon. Toho brought in Kaneko for GMK because they were impressed by his work on Gamera. The Godzilla producer of the time (I forget his name) was actually jealous about the differences in quality.

Plus, almost all Gamera actresses did topless shoots.

>>14609668
The fact you admit you unironically enjoy moralfags leads me to believe you're about 6 years old or so. Too young for 4chan.

>>14609825
Yes, cause we all love the homolusting cock suckers in Kamen Rider Heisei.

>>14609840
Just call him an edgey teen next time, it pisses his lot off the most.

>>14609825
It's called stepping up and being a hero. Unlike Kamen Riders.

Also, Ultraman's series promotes it's kaiju. They sell toys of them, plushes, comics, everything.
Last time I saw a Kamen Rider kaijin was shocker combat men figurines.

>>14609825
Of course. If you can't cut yourself on them, the character's not edgy enough.

>>14609843
Grow up.

>>14609850
Shame the Kamen Rider fans can't do exactly that.
>They're so insecure about their metal heroes riding motorcycles they go into the Godzilla and Ultraman threads to shit post.

>>14609844
There is no such thing as a hero. Heisei Rider abandoned the tired cliche of the Showa era ally of justice. Ultraman still hasn't gotten there.

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>>14609805
> Anno loves fanservice and doesn't include any in Shin Godzilla.

Think this was a personal decision or Toho wouldn't allow it?

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>>14609850
>what is drive
>what is ghost
>what is fourze

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>>14609861
I get the impression you never had a dad or father figure growing up.

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>>14609861
>There is no such thing as a hero.

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>>14609875
That image was a painful read

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>>14609861

HOW BIG IS GODZILLA'S PENIS

>>14609759
I can see her cunt.

>>14609805

Please, show us the pictures

>>14610005
Google.

>Anno does a trilogy that mirrors Godzilla's development as a franchise.
>In the sequel Godzilla evolves into a more heroic looking form to ally with humans in an attempt to stop a much larger threat
>In the third, Humans grow arrogant, perceiving Godzilla to be a sort of Super-weapon that operates at their whim, Godzilla evolves again into something even more monstrous than before to quell these ungrateful jerks.

>>14609965
about one train car in length

>>14609801
>The Godzilla producer of the time (I forget his name) was actually jealous about the differences in quality.
Source please.

>>14609612
>>14609578
Couldn't the difference in quality between old Gamera and newer Gamera be taken advantage of as far as marketing goes? Just put a really shitty old-school Gamera scene that looks like adults playing with bootleg toys next to one of the super-atmospheric non-CG scenes from the Iris movie or the stop-motion Gyaos face-explosion from the new trailer.

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>>14609864
Godzilla's naked for the whole movie. That's the fanservice.

>>14609886
>Random pair of scissors flies into the distance
MY EDGE CUTTERS!