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So how are you guys enjoying that reread session with Extra/Unlimited in the Steam version?
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I'm waiting for the big boy patch
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>>14523642
going Meiya's route first
>>14523699
wait forever
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>>14523642
Pretty well actually. And enjoying the KimiNozo references I didn't get the first time.
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>>14523700
Doing her route first too. This is really hurting my heart though
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I'm enjoying it so far. I just lost my shit at the part where Sumika gets hit by Yuuko's car and the Kiminozo theme starts playing.
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Any thoughts on this, /m/?
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>>14523871
>hating one of those girls
Go choke on donkey dick anon.
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>>14523889
But I like Cutesar.
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>>14523900
>But I like Cutesar.
>bestgirlwithbitch.jpg
My comment stands, it seems you hate one of them.
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>>14523910
>liking Beatrix
>accuses others of shit taste

That was good for a few laughs. You should be a comedian or something.

You know who she reminds me of, a female Saachez or Yazan. She isn't remotely likable, even if she is a great villain.
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>>14523940
>She isn't remotely likable, even if she is a great villain.
A solid quarter of the jap fandom disagrees though, as does most of /a/ and the chink fans.
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So are we getting Alternative in Steam during September or later?
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>>14523948
And thats why /a/, and even more Muv luv threads on /a/, do suck
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>>14523948
Where did you get those numbers? Out of your ass?
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>>14523960
Go over to /a/ for proof of them liking her, and go check the age polls for the 1/4 of the japs liking Beatrix. That daki didn't appear out of thin air, there were garanteed buyers long before.
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>>14523977
Actually, about the dakis, I don't get why Beatrix is there. Iris shouldn't be there either, but Beatrix isn't even a heroine or romantic options like the rest. If you ask me, there should have been a Yuuko, Chizuru, or Tama daki instead.
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>>14523998
Didnt they add those just because SM anime had aired not long ago and characters from it got popular?
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>>14524006
Those Dakis were released before the VN and the anime.
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>>14523998
Beatrix and Marimo are the hottest ones there.
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>>14523998
Getting Meiya, Kei and Marimo dakis
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>>14523871
Beatrix is kind of gross to me to be honest.
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>>14523957
>it's a stones thrown in glass houses episode
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>Pick Sumika for every choice
>Suddenly Mikoto ending out of nowhere
Pretty sure this didn't happen in the original.
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>>14524018
>Kei
Mein neger
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Why did they have to force the Sumika ending onto everyone in Alternative?
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>>14525429
Why is Katia the canon route in SM?

Why is Yuzu forced on you in TDA?
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>>14524774
It's just the lacrosse choice.
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So, the Steam version let's my dive straight into Unlimited, I've always heard that Extra is really shitty. Is that the case? Should I actually read it a bit before I jump into Unlimited?
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>>14525556
DON'T SKIP EXTRA!
If you find that you don't like it, at least read through Sumika and Meiya's routes.
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>>14525429
Because Sumika is best girl. Mub-Rub is her story, not yours.
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>>14524018
Got more of these light novel scans?
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>>14525694
Don't think I have more than these.
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Finished re-reading ML yesterday, pretty satisfied with the Steam version. Moved on to MLA. I'm enjoying the whole experience a lot more than last time to be honest, can't wait for the ride to start. Also I pity the fool who prefers Ixwreck's translation to the new one.
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>>14526090
>Moved on to MLA

Arent you going to wait Steam version? I'm in the middle of rereading Extra and havent even gotten to UL yet.

And yeah, I also enjoy this more than years ago.
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>>14526093
I tried to wait but I just couldn't. I'll also read the Steam version when it's out though.
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ok anon, where can I find translations for the strike frontier 4koma? I am willing to typeset them but I need someone to translate.
Will start to dump them.
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>>14526106
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>>14526103
Some nice anon posted translations of those in previous threads.
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>>14526115
>>14526113
Can you link me?
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>>14526121
>>14480347

I think this thread had some translations
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>>14526122
Wait, which one of them is 2016 Ayamine?
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>>14526124
Yep found them, cheers. Will post then them as I finish them.

4koma 5 and 6 aren't translated, that anon comes back please what you can do.

Also great taste anon.
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>>14526128
I think I saw 5 translated in one of these threads, are you sure it's not there?
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>>14523871
GET OUT OF THERE, CHICHINAISHI!

>>14525625
> Sumika
> not S00mika
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>>14523951
Yeah, I wanna know too...I haven't actually started reading ML on my steam account yet cause I'm waiting for the whole thing to be released, then I'll get started on it.

Come to think of it, I tend to do that a lot...I got the Trails games chapters 1 and 2 on Steam a while ago, started playing and enjoying them, but then when I found out there was a 3rd chapter coming out eventually I stopped and started waiting for it. Does anybody else do this? Not playing a game/watching an anime until the whole thing is out and you can blaze through it straight in one go?
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>>14526266
>CHICHINAISHI
What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? You're literally the only person on the entire Internet who's ever used that word.
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>>14526284
KGNE reference from the beginning, still in progress completing it.

btw there's reaction of Gretel when you press her boobs in age SM page.
that description really suits her.
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>>14526283
>Trails
You should probably play the two first chapters, 3rd is mostly a self contained story for what I heard.
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>>14526283
Looks like lot of people want to wait for Alternative release before starting out.

As for Trails, I assume you mean Trails in the Sky, you can go a head and finish the ones already released as SC finishes the story that starts in first game. 3rd is different story with returning characters.
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>>14526314
>>14526317
Oh damn, really? So 3 is more like its own thing than a continuation of the previous games? Cool, guess I can get back on 1 and then 2. Thanks anons.
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>>14526323
Yes, Third is a spin-off of sorts from the first two,
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>>14526313
Is it supposed to be "乳ないし"? Because that ain't a fucking noun.
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>>14526090
I'll keep my nostalgia shades on ktnx, and will always prefer the original TL
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>>14523642
I was planning to wait for the patch, but I ended up going for Tama route while I was just checking the new engine. I only read Sumika and Meiya routes last time, but I'm enjoying Extra a lot more now.
Tama a cute also.
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>>14526332
ITH+TA was pretty subjective when come to translation of KGNE & others, unless they speak in Yuuhi style it works like magic.
maybe just dialect things, or speaking style that makes the differences in translation.
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>>14526284
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chichinashi
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>>14526357
>Machine translating
I guess I shouldn't have expected better from the head retard of the board.
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Lot of Euro Front stuff being shown in todays niconico stream
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>>14526339
i can't tollerate the retards, mhu 18+ patch, mhu porn. mhu 2 bad sex scene
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>this winter
>meaning at least four or five months from now
Are you guys seriously going to wait that much to try Extra/UL?
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>>14526374
I read them planning to ship out everything by September from those KS rewards, except Vita versions.
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>>14526378
everything except alternative.
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>>14526378
I don't think MLA is coming out in September though, ML was supposed to be released in like March or April, and got pushed back to July. Given that, it would be weird for MLA to come out on time.
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>>14526366
it's part of learning language process when busy with IRL stuff.
baby wasn't born to walk since the first second they out from fetus, unless you're the super baby people keep talk about.
moon learning offered in country seems vague or not convincing enough.
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>>14526386
Already confirmed that they are going to ship Alternative in a second moment.
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>>14526370
>VN CONFIRMED
>ANIME NEXT YEAR

LIVING THE DREAM
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>>14526393
A second moment? I don't understand.
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>>14526398
What.
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>>14526398
You what? Seriously? Stop trolling me
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>>14526404
sorry, was trolling
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>>14526409
Awful faget. You are forgiven though
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>>14526409
ebin xD
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>>14526409
>>14526412
>>14526370

Schwarzesmarke was a mistake.
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>>14526425
Well yeah, there's meant to be an 'n' at the end.
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>>14526425
worst girls
worst story
worst everything
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>cookie talking about pokemon go in stream
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>>14526441
like everyone in this week, i hate it.
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CGs from ML were also cropped in MLA, I forgot about that.
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>>14526452
I'm sure localization haters still find reason to complain about them in official release anyway.
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>>14526452
you really expect them to redraw new cg?

>>14526458
Man, they are so annoying, mhu track, mhu crop cg, mhu rugp v 5.0
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>no german Meiya daki
HARAM
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>>14526466
>those hips
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>>14526466
plebs
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>>14526452
That doesn't mean that it's acceptable to crop then in ML.
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>>14526462
Kill yourself.
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>>14526458
>>14526462
>>14526472
I wasn't implying anything 2bh, just saying.
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>>14526474
are you that FaceEater fag?
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>>14526466
wish there's Kasumi in FS daki out there.
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>>14526472
You're late as fuck with these complaints. Furthermore, the CGs exist in their proper size. They are only fit to widescreen in-engine.
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>>14526122
6 is new

If you pay 3000 Yen it's free

I'm Hozuki(?) Akaru.

(This isn't even retro-tier...)

When I heard there wasn't internet or games, I really wanted to go back.

If there's no games, you normally die...Isn't this an unescapable death for humanity...

My hand is shaking...

*flip*

Hanafuda ->

...Showdown?

Don't underestimate Analogue Games...

Thank you

Gokou(highest winning point set in Hanafuda)

Ah...one more, just one more...
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Give me a dead Slav already, or at least a Brokoto.
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>>14526632
I got lucky today
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>>14526632
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>>14526357
Im always wonder if is "ha" or is "wa"
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>>14526632
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>>14526439
Dayum, ST got a cover page.
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>>14526642
>>14526650
When will I get lucky?
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>>14526647
should be 'wa' imo, but can't get into katakana guess have to stick with original content & learning slowly.

& this just like chinese scanlation naming stuff words by words, something like that.
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>>14526462
>>14526472
>>14526535
>defending cutting of content
You remind me of Discord fucks and twitter fucks
who keep defending this shit. Why the fuck do you think kickstarter was there for? How fucking hard can it be to fix this shit with the money they got.
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>>14526545
Thank you anon, can you do the same for 5? I didn't find translation for that.
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>>14526675
Isn't it this one? >>14495020
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>>14526672
I doubt anyone defends it. Also, its up to age/ixtl to fix that shit which wont be happening, since japanese players have been complaining about same stuff like engine changes too.
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>>14526689
You have no idea. People are simply very passive about it trying not to sound like shills, but trust me they are defending it buy not pushing it and helping bring it to Age/ixtl's attention.
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>>14526679
Cheers!
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>>14526689
> engine changes too.
why complaining engine change?
don't people prefer little dynamic lip movement of MLA, compared to old static ML/MLU?
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>>14526671
What software would you recommend for reading untranslated VNs like KGNE?

I like the look of Translation Aggregator compared to Visual Novel Reader, but I've been told that it's out-of-date and I should use VNR instead.

I'll mainly be using it to see the reading of the kanji, if that matters.
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>>14526679
>>14526708
Yeah, I'm the same anon who did the previous 5.

If only we had some place to aggregate all of them...
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>>14526735
Godspeed anon.
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>>14526723
used ITH+TA for Altered Fable after finished trilogy & still using it. maybe some other people know more about those type of software because rUGP pretty tricky, as people say from the past.

there's TA version of year 2016, but too bad some translation box removed due to incompatibility; or to say complicated programming stuffs.
bing translator box was pretty good for references, but due to programming stuff it removed as well. still there's plenty usable box to refer so there's that.
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I havent watched those age streams from niconico in a long time until today, but has there been any other stuff from Euro Front recently before this day? And meaning recently, earlier this year.

It was kinda refreshing to see something that isnt SM, TE or trilogy.
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>>14526791
Thanks - ITH+TA with JParser is just what I needed.
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>>14526878
Not really. It gets mentioned occasionally but that's about it.
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>>14526888
Well, thats a shame. I hope we see more of it soon.
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>>14526878
how can ilfriede have literally no ass like that?
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>>14527060
Because age girls either don't have ass or never show their ass.
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>>14527060
Would this be better then?
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>>14527073
>This doujin will never be scanlated.
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>>14527065
> age girls either don't have ass or never show their ass
say that to their ass, not online & see what happens
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hnnnnnnng... mother of christ I didn't expect this
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>>14527994
>itty bitty teeny tiny perky breasts

Kasumi is perfect
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>>14527065
>implying
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>tfw didn't make the 150 rolls and no meiya
>feel like dropping the game but pic related
th-this is nice
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>>14528579
>got 2 SSR's and still bitching
s-stop stuttering you fag
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>>14528583
But meiya's my waifu. The whole point of this game is to get the waifu cards.
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>>14528585
The point of the game will be killing BETA. Death to BETA.
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>>14523871
what's that evil cunt doing to mah commissar!
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>>14526113
Hey thats a cute Meiy-
>JILPOONG17
EVERY FUCKING TIME.
WHEN DOES THE PAIN END?
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>>14528780
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heeyy, look at that
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>>14525556
We're working on getting a warning up for Unlimited to imply this is 'not' okay again.
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>>14525556
you just can't skip extra
man up and digest it, it is fun, but some tidbits are REALLY important by the time you hit UL and Alt
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>>14525556
you're skipping the majority of characterization needed for the series to be effective.

It might be dry, but you need it for the series to work, you can not skip it
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>>14528856
LOOK AT THOSE
DOGTAGS
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>>14528722
I'm surprised people feel so strongly about Beatrix. Sure, she's a horrible, repulsive person, but she doesn't really leave much of an impact in my opinion. She's nowhere near as hateable as let's say Azrael, simply because there's not really enough time to form an extremely negative opinion of her. She's evil for the sake of being evil too, which hurts her believability. It's hard to see her as a "person," she's just a flat character, so it's difficult for me to really hate her..
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>>14525556
you have to read extra at least once
otherwise you won't really understand wat is going since the very beginning of UL
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>>14525556
To give you an idea of what you are doing without giving you spoilers, imagine watching The Empire Strikes Back without watching A New Hope before hand and with no prior knowledge of star wars lore. Yes, you can grasp the plot without watching A New Hope, but you would completely miss out on a lot of character development and fail to understand the full scope of the situation.
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>>14528856
where is that from? AF?
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>>14528872
There's been a smear campaign against Beatrix going on for a couple of years now, about as long as Schwarzesmarken has been around really. By this point, it's almost become a meme. I don't really understand how it started, or why it continues even to this day, but it seems that you and most of the ML fandom have bought into it.
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>>14529190
I think it's from Haruko Maniax.
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>>14528856
Man Meiya looks off today
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>>14529403
You're just imagining things anon.
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>>14523871
Oh it looks like someone already put up my request from the KS. Neato.
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This particular sprite makes me hard as diamonds, am I weird?
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>>14529461
Yes, you're a pedo. Go kill yourself.
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>>14528722
like most of the bad ends in the first vn are from gretel dude
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>>14529465
She's 18 though.
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>>14529485
Lise and Beatrix will remain the most evil characters in the VN (Axmann got demoted when they made him younger).
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>>14530328
that's nice but how does that address most of the bad ends being from gretel
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>>14530328
NAZI WHORE
WILL SHOOT ON SIGHT
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>>14530328
> portraying best imouto to a cold blood killer
fuck you age.
fuck you Stasi.
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>>14530370
Because she's a VILLAIN, not a waifu. She is meant for you to hate and kill, not cuddle with. You're supposed to be filled with rage at her and her boss when they torture your friends.
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>>14530328
Cute imouto
Will save in her route
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>>14530375
Looks pretty waifuable to me man, maybe you need to relax.
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>>14530370
I fucking hate these two so much. I though Fagiri was the height of douchebagery, but I was wrong. These two deserve to be hung, drawn, disemboweled and quarters for everything they have done.
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>>14530401
Sounds like autism to me.
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>>14530375
she's a puppet of Stasi, a best imouto gone into irreparable state after what Stasi done to her.
the rage should be aimed to Beatrix, Axmann & Stasi.

>>14530379
if only Stasi didn't break her. ;_;


fuck you age. with that portrait of Lise you make, you have sunk her to the pit deeper again.
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>>14530431
If only Axmann or Beatrix were killed as children. One can only hope that Extra removes these two and gives Lise and everybody else the happy endings they deserve.
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>>14530431
>>14530454
Beatrix did literally nothing wrong in the context of Lise, nerds.
>inb4 anime screencaps
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>>14530463
Beatrix was Lise's boss.
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>>14530454
Lise has her route so don't worry too much about her, not sure where the hate boner you have for Beatrix comes from though. As far as Extra goes the SM cast is the one that needs it the most, it'd be a shame if they never do it.
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>>14530328
LN/VN fags BTFO.
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>>14530484
it's probably from katia's route which as we all know is a big black and white but mostly black turd
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>>14530370
She is a cold blooded killer.

>>14530489
>characterization changes based on route
Not really.
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>>14530500
>Not really.
you're right but not for the reasons you think

characterization changes based on the material you're reading
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>>14530504
>characterization changes based on the material you're reading

We don't know how consistent SM will be, but it's already looking like the anime got most of the characterization right.
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>>14530510
you're objectively wrong.
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>>14530469
Just because Lise gets her route doesn't mean it will be a happy ending. Beatrix or Axmann could kill her or something.

As for Beatrix, she and Axmann are the most unlikeable characters in Muv-Luv. I want to see them suffer. I get enjoyment from watching them in pain or anguish because they're such huge cunts.
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>>14530521
>Beatrix or Axmann could kill her or something.
>Beatrix
Really doubt it. You got a reason beyond "lol she's evul because the anime says so"?
>I want to see them suffer. I get enjoyment from watching them in pain or anguish because they're such huge cunts.
Nevermind, I don't need a reason. You clearly are on the spectrum.
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>>14530513
Um, I have bad news for you >>14530328

If anything, it looks like she'll be even worse because the VN doesn't have to censure itself like the anime.
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>>14530535
um, I have bad news for you as well.

the anime and the ln show the same route, yet the characterization is completely different or in some cases gives certain traits from 1 person to another

ergo, you are still objectively wrong

1 vn cg with no context added doesn't really say anything one way or the other, and like I said, it's probably for katia's route.
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>>14530542
The context is is that she's torturing her former comrades. And Watanabe had many discussions with age on how they wanted him to portray the story. I'd say that any of the retcons he made were ones approved by the source material's author.
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>>14530549
>The context is is that she's torturing her former comrades.
yes. in katia's route.
>And Watanabe had many discussions with age on how they wanted him to portray the story.
"Hey guys i want to make Irisdina the main girl for the anime". i don't think i need to tell you how this one went.
> I'd say that any of the retcons he made were ones approved by the source material's author.
what happened was the anime became "canon" as it was katia's route, as was the ln as i said.

the characters in the anime and the ln might as well be different people, even though they are the same route
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>>14530555
Maybe the anime was always an adaption of the VN, not LN.
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>>14530575
maybe isn't enough. post a source or forever remain in the sanctuary of your own ignorance.
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>>14530595
How about the hair twirl CG matching up with the anime's hair twirl?
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>>14530600
that's not a source. i think this conversation is over.
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>>14530535
>>14530600
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>>14530600
All that does is lean towards it being a CG from Katia's route. I don't fully understand this circle logic you animeonlies tend to have.
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>>14530630
How is her characterization in one route any less valid then her characterization in her own route?
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>>14530647
Not him but circumstance effects behaivor. Abandoning Lise to her demons could lead to the cg above, while handling it differently could reveal that their was still hope. The fact that there is an option for her proves that it may not be as black and white as you insist it is.
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>>14530647
You're asking the wrong question.

You should be asking "Why am I taking the anime version of Lise, which is a black and white caricature of her that does little to nothing to provide exposition about why she does the things she did or does, and pretending that the material the anime adapts is no different from what is in the anime, which is the only material I can understand as I only speak, read and write English?"
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>>14528579
Stupid ass question, but how do i save two cards in this?
all i got is R shit so nothing of value was lost
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>>14531073
You had to have rolled before the 18th. For the 30 days after that, you are only rolling for slot 2.
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>>14531077
fuck
Should i save waifus or human females?
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>>14531096
Get the rarest waifus you can, son.
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>>14528872
>It's hard to see her as a "person," she's just a flat character, so it's difficult for me to really hate her..
What people fixate on anymore completely perplexes me.
>>14529240
>but it seems that you and most of the ML fandom have bought into it
^ this.
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War in the pocket is actually good.

0079 is flawed but still pretty good.

Everything else is shit.
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>>14531434
I love that time the BETA declared war on the U.N. in the name of independence and Takeru Shirogane piloted the experimental unit Susanoo to save the Yokohama Base from the attacks of the Space Knight, Jouji Gohda
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oh christ /m/, I'm so choked up right now, what are all these emotions
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>>14527095
Not with that attitude, senpai.

We have to take hold of the future with our own hands!
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>>14532111
Oh lord, if that gets you emotional, just you wait. There's some truly heart-wrenching stuff later.
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>>14530489
SM has always been black and grey. Sure the rebels do some questionable things, but they're ultimately good people doing what they have to survive for the most part while the stasi is an organization of self-destructive psycopaths and perverts torturing the populace of East Germany for their amusement. It would not surprise me if the stasi have killed as many East Germans as the BETA have. Under such conditions, rebellion is the only recourse for survival.
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>>14532168
>Sure the rebels do some questionable things, but they're ultimately good people doing what they have to survive
Token acknowledgement of wrongdoing, so good so far.
>for the most part while the stasi is an organization of self-destructive psycopaths and perverts torturing the populace of East Germany for their amusement. It would not surprise me if the stasi have killed as many East Germans as the BETA have.
And now we are back to the blame game.
>Under such conditions, rebellion is the only recourse for survival.
A coup was already taking place. The rebellion muddled the recourse for survival as depleting your already exhausted military forces during an alien invasion that eats attrition for breakfast is ludicrous and downright fanatic, as evidenced by the collapse of new system after a few months.

Democracy is non-negotiable.
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>>14532168
>perverts
Are you talking about Axmann and his rapey tendencies?
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>>14532199
They were in a no win situation, but there was a slightly larger chance of survival under new leadership then there was under the stasi. The stasi were guaranteed death.
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>>14532222
>They were in a no win situation, but there was a slightly larger chance of survival under new leadership then there was under the stasi.
That's what I was talking about when I said coup. As it turns out the rebels didn't want survival, but their own special snowflake brand of government.
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>>14532199
>Democracy is non-negotiable
Democracy has never worked.
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>>14532124
god damn this is too intense for me, I need a breather...
>that fucking Yuuhi speech
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>>14532258
i think you missed the doublethink
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>>14526366
>head retard

Woah now, that's Head Retard /m/_wanderer.

Respect his retarded title so his retarded feelings aren't hurt.
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Any mecha for this wonfes?
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>>14523871
Shitty generic hime garbage with ultimate waifu?

Gee I dunno.
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>>14532345
from muv luv? no
plenty of other stuff, including a new EVA TV version kit, Shuruoga, some new weapon units from koto, new FAGS and frame arms and this Robo Reimu
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>>14532347
The only good thing about your waifu is her design.
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>>14532265
If that's intense, chapter 7 will kill you, just so you know. I'm rereading it right now btw.
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>>14523642
It hurts
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>>14532952
it could hurt furthermore.
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>>14532952
>Honestly... I'd like to try living in a world without you, just for a change of pace.....
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>>14532957
This is what kills the feels
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>>14527095
On a scale of shit to slightly less shit, how did I do?
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>>14532974
You did fine. Can you do the rest of the doujin?
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>>14532949
Meiya's death and meeting Kasumi again in Final Extra was what caused my tears to flow. Isumi and Hayase's deaths made me teary-eyed, but managed to hold it together then.
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>>14532993
Chomp physically hurt me, I literally had to go do something else for a while to recover. Not to mention Marimo-chan's death in Extra Branch.
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>>14532991
You think I'd just tease with one page and not do the rest?

Fear not anon, I'll do my best.

Any tips on where to dump the full thing when I'm done? It's a bit too racy for /m/, after all.
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>>14533030
Make a thread on /h/ and cross-link it here.
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Fucking hell.
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>>14533030
No idea.
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>>14532974
I had the image in my folder for three years or something before I posted it in here when someone complained Ilfriede having flat ass. Kinda weird that no one had bothered do it before this.

Well, I'm glad someone is finally doing it.
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Oh boy, here we go again.
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>>14533064
I'm retarded, I forgot the pic.
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>>14533065
NO
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Kouki, you magnificent bastard.
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>>14533077
You know, that wasn't the worst part
The worst part is what comes after
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>>14533077
>>14533086
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>>14533077
Waiting for Steam version until I reread this. Going to be painful
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>>14533077
>>14533086
Don't post this shit ever again
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Good morning, Shirogane-kun.
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HMMM
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What is this PTSD induction parade?
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>>14533110
Some anon jumped on the rollercoaster again
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>>14533116
Yup, sorry for that.
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>>14533116
I-I-Izumi tai ;_;7
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>>14533038
Here goes nothing
>>>/h/4334884
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>>14533200
>I cannot into cross-board links
>>>/h/4334884 I guess
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>>14533203
Oh shit, turns out my browser was just buggy...
Sorry for tripleposting.
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>>14533200
>>14533203
>>14533205
doing god work anon.
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Ishigaki got taken before his time.

There will never be mubrub doujins again
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>>14533219
What is it with Muv Luv fan artists dying?
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>>14533229
He's not dead, he just doesn't work on anything Muvluv related anymore.
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>>14533231
Why? What does he do now?
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>>14533200
Good work anon
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>>14533232
Judging from C89, all kinds of stuff.
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>>14533200
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>>14533077
>>14533087
>>14533095
IT
BEGINS
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脅威のレベルが違う
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I'm enjoying my second wild ride way more than the first one 2bh.
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>>14533300
I don't know why people in these threads enjoy suffering so much. I'll probably go into some depression again when I finally get back to Alternative with Steam release.
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>>14533039
YUUUUUUKOOOOOOOOO
>>
look at your hands
what will you grasp with those hands
what will you protect with those hands
clench your fists
what will you destroy with those fists
what will you defeat with those fists

why is Radhabinod so good at giving speeches
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>no bad end where you rape Meiya and then hang yourself later
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>>14533987
Is this your first time on Kouki's rollercoaster?
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>>14533987
>Takeru being allowed to commit suicide
That'd be taking the easy way out. Gotta ride along to the end.
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>>14534037
that's why it's a bad end, you'd get some unique dialogue before he hangs himself, and then everyone discovers his body, then it just loops back to the previous choice
>>
does Takeru have a voice during the PTSD arc?
what do his screams sound like?
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>>14534037
>Takeru being allowed to commit suicide
he'll just reeset and remeber fucking everything, making him feel even worse
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>>14534087
Yes, during the flashbacks. They sound like pure despair.
UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YAMEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>14534099
Is it something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjfbUfcJUM
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>>14534114
I was thinking more like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Uge0DljYA
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>>14533371
I had to step away from the game for a month when I got to the PTSD arc. When I finally finished it, I was up the rest of the night crying.
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Don't mind me, just posting the best noble confidant.

>>14534141
2 weeks for me after the BETA funhaus scene. It took infinite resovle to continuie after that.
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Please i need help.
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>>14534196
I'd pick left.
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>>14534169
>this isn't a steam background
>neither is this
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I just finished rereading Meiya's route in Steam version. Feeling empty inside. If this is already killing me inside this much, rereading Unlimited/Alternative probably really kill me.

Why does this trilogy turn me into such emotional wreck? I was sure I'd be able to take at least Extra without these feelings.
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>>14534371
>scene with Meiya on the roof
>Koukinaru Chi starts playing
Welp, goodbye manliness.
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>>14534406
>Welp, goodbye manliness.
And hello, Darkness.
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>>14534196
I keep reading that Pilots are gonna be rarer than mechs, so that.
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>>14534406
>the entire Coup arc when this plays

it's so noble, and fits both Meiya and Yuuhi perfectly
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>>14533371
>>I don't know why people in these threads enjoy suffering so much.

If anyone was actually affected by any of this, they should probably just kill themselves now, before the strain of coming out as a weeb faggot gives them a fatal heart attack at 28.
>>
https://type94.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/the-road-to-muv-luv/

time for the second coming of ORUTA MADAA~?
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>>14534539
It's okay to get emotional over a piece of media. Everyone's cried during a movie. It's a normal thing to connect with characters and feel the same things they do (provided the writing is good enough).
>>
can someone explain the "____ pastiche fucking when" meme to me?
>>
where does Takeru rank?
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>>14534916
Which Takeru are we talking UL or Alt?
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>>14534916
somewhere between nice facebook and filename
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WHAT IS THIS WITCHCRAFT?!?!?!
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>>14534955
You are missing 4 rolls
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>>14534955
looks like someone missed a few rolls
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>>14534962
>>14534964
Yes i know
I just thought it was a cool coincidence that 259 rolls would earn you 529 coins
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>>14534916
From this thread on /a/: >>144462927
He is far up there, but could've been a bit higher
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>>14534976
>Takeru 70
>Guts 100

sorry but Guts hasn't suffered since the eclipse, the dudes been all smiles since then and even enjoys his new lifestyle.
The degree to which Takeru falls from is far greater in terms of "suffering"
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>>14534976
>Cu
>40 on "deserve it"
Is this counting Fate only or his actual life too?
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>>14534976
>15 on "deserving it"

how the hell do you even quantify that
>>
>>14534976
How is Homura a 95, when she and Takeru basically shared the same fate of "endlessly fighting for your ideals"

Okabe not so much since his situation was never that shitty to begin with
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>>14534976
Maybe we should add some SM or TE characters on there too.
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>>14535090
how about we don't but say we did
>>
https://twitter.com/kyotyanehh/status/757364503919095808

literally happening now
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>>14534916
Having the character from the new SAO of the season manages to annoy me much more than the filename
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>>14535101
nobody cares tim
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>>14530375
How can you hate such face?
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>>14535090
Ok, I've added a few characters from SM. Not really sure about TE.
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>>14535165
Lise should be about 85. She's not Guts level. Guts has been getting shit on before he was even born. Everything else looks fine
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>>14525568
>>14528840
>>14528847
>>14528856
>>14528873
Thanks, guys. I'll do Extra first, then.

>>14529105
Funny enough, I actually did see Episode V first, and it was the only one I saw for a while. My mother thought it was the best one, and never saw the point in owning Episode IV. (I only caught Episode VI when I was younger because my mom recorded it on tape years ago.) I first saw Episode IV when it came out on VHS when Episode I came out and my cousins bought it. It felt like it took forever for me to see it, but that's because the yeara from about 5 to 7 years old feels like forever.
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>>14535165
Beatrix should be 60Y 40X
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>>14535165
>shitsmarken characters above takeru
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>>14535226
Substantiate your claim
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>>14535254
Sources: LN, VN
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>>14535254
Isn't it heavily foreshadowed in the prequel that she's a sort of extremely tragic, unfortunate, lonely, and miserable person?
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>>14535295
It's foreshadowed in SM. It's openly stated in the prequel.
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>>14535257
The VN is likely to go with her anime characterization, not the one from BiS or the LN.
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>>14535313
I really don't think so, especially when the LN characterization is so vastly different from the anime, which is what the anime was adapting somehow.
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>>14535313
You want to back up that claim, or are you just a Katiafag looking to stir up shit because your whyfoo's route is so goddamn awful?
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>>14535323
>>14535329
Age's VNs have traditionally incorporated or even retconed shit to make them closer to the anime. The anime takes precedence over the LN. See TE or KGNE.

Personally, I'd prefer a deeper, somewhat sympathetic Beatrix, but with how muddled everything is, I don't know what to think. This CG sample >>14530328 doesn't give me much hope.
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>>14535349
Why would the SM anime take precedence over the LN? It is a fucking shitshow and even the Japs, you know, the guys who buy this and support age hated it. Nobody was excited when it was announce that the anime and LN were Katia's route.

How are you going to tell me with a straight face that Kouki is going to make the VN follow the anime and in doing so polarizing a large chunk of the fanbase, as the Japs like Beatrix enough to rival Irisdina?

And on this note, how do the other anime adaptations fare? Wasn't the anime for TE and KGNE following the material with some changes here and there? I don't follow how SM will be the same when it's a character-driven drama with an anime that butchers the character part.
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>>14535412
I thought the Japs were more lukewarm about the whole ordeal. They certainly didn't seem that angry, and the reviews seem to say it was an alright anime.
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>>14535505
>I thought the Japs were more lukewarm about the whole ordeal. They certainly didn't seem that angry, and the reviews seem to say it was an alright anime.
Even if that were the case, and let's say it is for argument's sake, it still doesn't change that Beatrix is one of the most popular SM girls, not to mention she's Kouki favourite girl.

I literally cannot comprehend why age, a company that traditionally does not have money, would choose to shoot themselves in the foot. So until Martyrs comes out I'm going to take assumptions based on cases that aren't really the same IIRC with a grain of salt.

Pic related, 1 of the billion age booths featuring moneyprinters.
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>>14535526
>not to mention she's Kouki favourite girl.
I'm suffering from a lack of sleep, I don't mean to infer that she's THE favourite, but his favourite SM.
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>>14535526
>>14535540
Wait, when did he say she was his favorite?
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>>14535552
i don't really expect /m/ to care about anything to do with japanese but come one

he put her daki on his chair. he voted for her on stream. he hung up her poster in his office. and there was one time they had some eroge magizine and ge went straight to annerose and compered her to beatrix.

this is before you factor in that she's basically yuuko and cookie has been a yuukofag since forever

also hiroki is team beato as well
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>>14535590
>hiroki is team beato as well

Hiroki is a huge Irisfag, actually.
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>>14535593
he admitted her plan was better though
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>>14535602
He said that her plan wasn't wrong given their situation, but then, he said that that of everyone.
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>>14536108
>They've finally banned the Muv-Luv general over on /a/.
Did they? Hallelujah!

Please mods, delete this cancer. I did what I could back in the day, when reporting allowed users to purge threads at will. I eliminated the shit out of these threads. Then mods got wise and removed that option
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>>14536153
>Brought a tear to my eye too. All the reporting we've been doing finally paid off.
MODS = GODS
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>>14523642
I have never experienced anything Muv-Luv related, am I missing any H content? I don't have to have the pon, but I find the idea that anything is censored on a digital medium in 2016 ludicrous, especially visual novels which aren't going to be played by anyone who would find those objectionable in the first place.
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>>14536108
>Implying Muv Luv isn't /m/
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Oh, this is just too good.
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>>14536212
Since Steam doesnt allow porn, those scenes are removed its release. But they arent that important for some people at least and only happen at the end of each route.

If you really want Steam version and h scenes too, you can just wait for them to finish that 18+ patch.
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>>14536212
Basically this >>14536614
I've read both versions and you're not missing anything without those scenes. Some routes actually seem to flow better like this. And I've always been against removing H content, myself.
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>>14536108
Maybe Muv-Niggers will sperg out and ban themselves.
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>>14536153
Is there an archive of this victory?
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>>14534037
>Implyning he didn't suicided several times before jumping into final alterverse
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>>14534093
Takeru doesn't remember anything from previous loops but the first unlimited loop
He carry over things like muscular memory, which is the reason he was broken in the Shiranui, he got good with the Takemikazuchi killing frogs and BETA during who knows how many the Day After loops.
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>>14536146
>>14536157
>>14536667
>>14536691
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So if I play alot of Virtual-On, I'll be great at piloting real mechs as well?
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>>14537117
Of course, and if you read lots of eroge you'll be great at sex.
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>>14537117
>>14537291
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>>14537049
At the risk of being banned, here is /a/'s policy on the matter of ML/SM/TE and so forth. /m/ may or may not get hit too depending upon how much certain chucklefucks annoy the mods.

Basically, don't make ML threads on /a/ or you might get banned.
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>>14537581
that's one guy's take on it

/jp/ doesn't discuss translated content and they most certainly don't discuss muvluv

/vg/ doesn't discuss muvluv either

/m/ is a containment board for mecha generals anyway so people bitching about it here are just pissing in the wind

this meta shit pisses me off not because i like muv luv but because there are loads of rule breaking threads aka generals that are outright ignored
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>>14537613
Yeah, pretty much. Fate threads don't have much of an issue with that rule. Anyways, now that the scanlators and moon readers have been run out of /a/ too, I wonder what they'll do? I don't think they'll return to /m/. People really seem to hate guys who upload new content or news, especially if it's about Martyrs. IIRC, KimiNozo Guy got shit on here when he uploaded Cross Operation on /m/, and another anon was told to leave when he posted some HD BiS pictures. They'll probably stop posting period, meaning no more anticipation threads or anything.
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>>14537654
>Anyways, now that the scanlators and moon readers have been run out of /a/ too, I wonder what they'll do?
/a/ kicked out moonreaders? Or do you mean the mods?
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>>14537581
>>14537581
Muv Luv is /m/, anyone saying it's not is a gratuitous faggot.
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>>14537663
I mean the mods. /a/ doesn't have this weird hostility towards moonreaders that /m/ does.
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>>14535226
>Beatrix, suffering more then Marida
>not deserving all the hatred in the world for the tens of thousands she has brought despair too
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>>14535165
where S00mika @
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>>14537742
>tens of thousands she has brought despair too
as opposed to the tens of millions who were killed or displaced throughout Europe when the moderate rebels directly caused the fall of the Oder neisse?

also, provide a source to that number
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>>14537774
>implying that Beatrix actually cares about Europe or humankind
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>>14537909
as opposed to the rebels actually caring about Europe or humankind and showing it by attacking the only people holding off the BETA?

still waiting on that source, my anime koolaid-drinking chum
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>>14537930
Doesn't she kill way more people in the final chapters of the LN then she ever did in the anime?
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>>14537938
That tends to happen when you fire 36mm rounds into protesting crowds, or was it rioting crowdds?
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>>14537962
>firing 36mm canons into crowd

That's really, really bad to be honest. Anyone who starts massacring people willy nilly has already given up the moral high ground.
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>>14538183
>Anyone who starts massacring people willy nilly has already given up the moral high ground.
looks like people should stop pretending the rebels are paragons then
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>>14538191
The rebels come off as good (or desperate) people trying to do good but only making things worse, so at least they're realistic. The stasi just come off as stupid evil.
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>>14538183
>massacring people willy nilly

There are two points that I have to raise though. The rioters/protesters had overwhelmed the conventional forces through sheer numbers, like in the anime, and thus, if they gathered enough momentum it wouldn't matter if she defeated the 666th or not, she would lose anyway. And second, apparently, I can't confirm it in any way, since I don't speak or read jap, it happened after Walter's "you aren't doing what Jürgen would have wanted" speech to her, which kind off made her go mad.

Then again, from the first LN onwards it was clear that if she had to bleed East Germany dry in order to hold the line, she would do it, no matter if the bleeding was at the front or in the Berlin.
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>>14538202
>The rebels come off as good (or desperate) people trying to do good
the rebels come off as people who can't see the bigger picture and performing actions that actively endanger the fate of their people and country
>The stasi just come off as stupid evil.
i like how you threw this on your post when no one was arguing otherwise. when people "defend" the "stasi" they are talking about beatrix and her faction. throwing her under the same blanket as schmidt's stasi is disingenuous at this point since time and time again people have told the same guys what's what and the exact same arguments happen with the exact same posts. we are literally in an infinite time loop like takeru.
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Hope they introduce a better character SSR soon, I dislike Kryska.
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>>14537938
>>14537962
>>14538183
Yup, no reason to shoot rioters. None at all. Completely unjustified.

It should be noted that she was arresting people until Katia's speech blew everything up.
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What happened in Strike Frontier when you reach 250 rolls milestone ?
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>>14538370
50 more coins I guess. Nothing else.
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>>14538343
Why weren't the soldiers shooting back?

For being a bunch of iron-gripped autocrats, they sure are a bunch of pansies.
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>>14538491
Underage b& detected.

That or a severely sheltered person with warped worldviews.
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>>14538496
It was kind of a joke. But really, in the RW, most military members would not hesitate (for very long) before they opened fire if put into that situation, even the ones from enlightened, Democratic nations. You give your warnings, raise your gun, and if they still cross the cordon with the intent and means to kill you, you shoot.
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>>14538553
Are you sure? In the RW, the real Stasi hesitated to put down the protestors during the fall of the Berlin Wall. That's just one example, or are you telling me regular soldiers will open fire upon their countrymen?
>US model of force
Interesting, considering if a civil war did occur in the US it's predicted more than half of the military would desert right then and there.
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>>14538570
>In the RW, the real Stasi hesitated to put down the protestors during the fall of the Berlin Wall
The Stasi wasn't in charge of putting down the protests. The VoPo's and the Army were. And the leadership thought that they stood a better chance going along with than clamping down on the protests. The Chinese Communist Party thought otherwise, guess which one still rules over their country.
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>>14538570
To use a recent example, in Turkey the coup forces on the bridge in Istanbul did not fire upon civilians who were advancing upon them. As well, there were other instances where troops did not fire upon civilians despite them literally getting up on their tanks, resulting in their capture.
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>>14538604
>And the leadership thought that they stood a better chance going along with than clamping down on the protests.
Because they were afraid of the people, not the other way around.
>The Chinese Communist Party thought otherwise, guess which one still rules over their country.
China isn't really a good counterexample as the "communist" party of China is just a different flavoured Emperor. The ruling class of China has been shitting on the peasants for 5000 years so it makes sense that they wouldn't take any shit now.
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>>14538629
>China isn't really a good counterexample as the "communist" party of China is just a different flavoured Emperor
I didn't imply that the SED leadership were true believers, hell Honecker fled to Chile, were Pinochet was still Defence Minister. I just meant, that had the East German leadership risked it, they could have held on to power for a longer time.

>Because they were afraid of the people, not the other way around.
If the people were truly afraid of their rulers in the first place, they wouldn't dare to protest.
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>>14534964
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>>14538623
If those civvies assaulted those soldiers and expressed a clear desire to show no mercy like in SM, then I think it would have been quite different.
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>>14538673
Did you not follow the coup?
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Anyone here has volks mechas from the muv luv franchise? are they the same size of the non scale koto or smaller?
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Daily reminder Beatrix is only ebul because we are looking at her from the viewpoint of people who would be put down for the greater good.
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>>14537676
What the fuck? When did /m/ get hostile to moon readers? It was always /m/ where newest info on ML showed up in the past, moreso than /a/. The goddamn ML wiki was an /m/ effort, as were TDA spoilers, TE spoilers, Schwarz spoilers, weekly stream news translations, etc.
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>>14538795
Where the hell were you man? This is almost 12 months old in news.

Even the other day some dude who had offered to provide scans got told to fuck off.
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>>14538767
no?
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>>14538804
>Where the hell were you man?
Taking an extended break from otaku entertainment. I'm back in the game because exams are over and ML was just released on Steam.

>Even the other day some dude who had offered to provide scans got told to fuck off.
What the actual fuck for?
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Feels like the recession has been going on for just as long as I've been old enough to know what a recession is.

How're those Abenomics working out for Japan?
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>>14538855
>What the actual fuck for?
Anti-SM league shut him up just because he had the Beatrix daki, even though he also had a bunch of other ones.
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>>14538791
Right.
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>>14538916
>Anime
You sure showed me. Tell me again how Watanabe understands that SM is not a story about good vs evil?
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>>14538891
And what's wrong with having a Beatrix pillow? She's hot. That's the point of the pillows!
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>>14538924
>I received the first Schwarzesmarken Blu-Ray disc in a while back, and I was surprised and pleased to find that each disc will come with a booklet with notes from author Hiroki Uchida on each episode. One interesting thing that Uchida reveals in the notes for episode 2 is that, during the script meetings for the anime, he and director Tetsuya Watanabe had a long discussion about the scene where Irisdina executes her brother Jurgen. This was right about the time that Uchida was about to start writing Bernhard im Schatten, a Schwarzesmarken prequel story focusing on Irisdina and Jurgen, and Uchida mentions that the discussion they had helped shape the story he was about to write. In episode 12, you can clearly see how this discussion also influenced the anime, as it is packed with references to the Jurgen. Almost none of these references existed in the original novel (in fact, I don’t think Jurgen even had a name at the time – he was just “Irisdina’s brother”). These references especially help shed light on Beatrix’s state of mind. These new additions help to make Beatrix a much more rounded character – she’s kind of a one-note villain in the original novels.

>Now that I’m reevaluating Beatrix as a character, it occurs to me that she and Axemann are set up to represent different types of evil. Beatrix is someone who is and believes wholeheartedly in evil. Axemann, however, has no ideology. He was part of the Stasi because he held power there. When things went south, he sought an alliance with the revolution, and when it looked like they were going to lose, he threw in with Beatrix. And when the people started to rise up against them, he hoped to seek refuge with the CIA. So there’s something to think about: who is the greater evil? The one who devotes herself mind and soul to evil? Or the one who serves, but has no loyalty to, an evil cause?

Watanabe was guided by SM's author. Note that
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>>14538978
>It's a Type94 episode
That's the only thing I've noted, desu. This is the hundredth time we've had this discussion with the same posts, and we've become exceedingly good at it.

So I'm reading through chapter VII, and I don't get how people could think that Beatrix is just a "one-note villain in the LN." There are a ton of hints that there's much more to her. There's her speeches to the Werewolves and the way she treats them. There's the odd way she gets angry at everything when Jurgen is brought up (like when Schmidt is needling her), and the way she seems to resent his absense. There's her odd relationship with Walter and how they talk to one another like old acquaintances. There's the scene where Walter tells her she can be a kind woman once again that sets her off into a rage.

After learning of her death, the first thing Iris says is something of a whispered apology to her brother (unreliable narration being what it is, Theo doesn't catch the name, so Jurgen's name goes unmentioned).

何かを言いかけて、アイリスディーナは言葉を切った。それから男性の名前を呟いた。それがアイリスディーナの兄の名ではないかとテオドールは察した。

I'd say that the general tone surrounding Beatrix before BiS was one of mystery.
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>>14538978
Watanabe also didn't know the Stasi existed until he was put on the project. Note that
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>>14539019
So? Many directors are chosen for projects they don't have a good idea about. It's up to them to research on the topic to produce a good film/show.

>>14538997
I can't really confirm it. T-94 has been reliable in the past, so I'll usually take his word over 4chan's. Remember that people used to say that Beatrix personally raped Sylvia and Pham, and wanted to rape Katia on this site.
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>>14539161
>So?
There is no so. That is the direct reason why SM is a fucking garbage adaptation that throws the characters out the window to replace them with black and white bullshit. Even Type-94 has proof on his website.

https://type94.wordpress.com/2016/03/24/anime-anime-tetsuya-watanabe/

If you can't deduce that from this interview then you are braindead and shouldn't be giving your opinion on content you admit you can't read.
>I can't really confirm it.
Says it all.
>T-94 has been reliable in the past, so I'll usually take his word over 4chan's.
T-94 has also incorrectly attributed things in the past. If he didn't know Japanese no one would take him seriously.
>Remember that people used to say that Beatrix personally raped Sylvia and Pham, and wanted to rape Katia on this site.
And then moonreaders disproved that. But since they posted on 4chan what they said is clearly false, right? Oh wait, they got kicked out precisely because those spoilers were accurate and appeal to authority schmucks like you are a dime a dozen on /m/ now.

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't parade an opinion by someone who has been proven wrong multiple times before like it's right.
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>>14539189
> Oh wait, they got kicked out precisely because those spoilers were accurate

I wish I was there for the spoiler discussions. How accurate were they though? Did they kind of predict the anime well?
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>>14539320
You had two dudes talking back and forth about the LN and everyone else screaming at them for spoiling shit.
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>>14539320
>I wish I was there for the spoiler discussions
The archives are still a thing.
>How accurate were they though?
Accurate in every sense of the word. Accurate enough to get kicked out and spawn a year long campaign to smear anything SM related.
>Did they kind of predict the anime well?
Don't really remember. There were gems like this though
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>>14539320
>Did they kind of predict the anime well?
/a/ knew the anime would be trash as soon as LIDEN FILMS appeared
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>>14538925
She is extremely hot, but people have been hating on her for about four years now.
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>>14539460
How can you hate a girl with such a cute giggle?
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>>14539468
The anime seemed to validate a lot of Beatrix's hatedom.
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>Rereading time with the steam version.
>First lunch choice.
>Pick Meiya's meal.
>Having an awesome lunch time with Meiya and Miki.
>Suddenly Sumika just leaves without a word.
>I feel like a complete twat now.
>mfw

T-thanks Kouki-san... I guess I've comeback to your wildride again...
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>>14539783
Feeling bad for Sumika, huh?
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>>14539875
So Katia is the super devoted true love of SM?

Where does that leave Katia then?
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>>14539899
She's the canon main heroine, which as evidenced in that picture isn't much of an achievement. Lise and Beatrix are the closest things to super devoted true love in SM.
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>>14539952
Why did they pick Katia? She's like the least interesting of all the girls.
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>>14539995
Because the elevens have shit and love their friend to all living things good moeblobs.
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>>14540031
>shit

*shit taste
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>>14540031
You mean áge? Because a major complaint from the jap fanbase for both the first half of the LNs and the first VN was too much Katia, and she consistently places lower than the other main heroines in their popularity polls.
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>>14540090
Doesn't she place lower then even Gretel and Beatrix?
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I just finished Total Eclipse and is Yui supposed to be a bad pilot? She's built up as a good piloy but she comes off as the weakest pilot in the show.
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>>14540102
Up or down with Gretel every now and then. Beatrix is usually first or second.
It tends to go Bea/Iris>Lise>Katia/Gretel
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>>14540142
She's a great pilot, but most of the time she's not even in her mech. When she actually does pilot, she kicks ass and even held her own fighting the berserk Scarlet Twins until she ran out of fuel.
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>>14540264
>When she actually does pilot, she kicks ass
Not really, she generally performs poorly and needs to be rescued.

>held her own fighting the berserk Scarlet Twins until she ran out of fuel.
She didn’t. She went down as fast as Tarisa did.
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>>14540090
But Katia isn't even age's favorite.
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>>14540542
No but that doesn't stop them does it?
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>>14540598
All this time, I thought Irisdina was the main and Lise/Katia the alternates.
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>>14540607
"katia route" is the canon route, so make of that what you will. She also got some pov in the first VN.
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>>14540648
The Katiafags must be pissed
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Who can pilot these TSF if I have no pilots?
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So I'm hot off the heels of Sumika's route and was wondering if I should do Meiya's now or go Unlimited, because it feels like Sumika into Unlimited is a more natural progression but I also figure there has to be a reason why the original required both routes to be completed
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>>14541084
Because everyone chooses Meiya's route before they are forced to do Sumika's route.
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>>14541109
I actually went in blind the first time and did it the other way but after reflecting on each ending I figured out that was probably the "correct" way of doing it
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>>14541061
You get Meiya for prereg
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