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How can we save macross /m/?

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How can we save macross /m/?
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>>13684697
>implying

Macross Delta is going to make huge stacks of cash.
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I don't see anything needing rescue dess
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I'm okay with the right side but what's the deal with the faggotry on the left
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>>13684697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIHblzyGLkY
Looks fine to me.
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>>13684697
We don't need to do anything. Kawamori's already saved the shit out of it.

救世主だから
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>>13684715
>DAT SHIT CG
>DEM SHIT CHARACTER DESIGNS

Its fucked.
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>>13684697
You're about 2 decades too late to save it and the fanbase has become to accustomed to shit to notice.
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>>13684727
Get off 4chan, Tomino.
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>>13684720
The CG is still test footage according to Tenjin.
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>>13684697
>>13684727
bingo
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is that gai from gc
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>>13684741

>implying tomino hates idols
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Their Macross looks funny.

It isn't a Macross, Battle or Quarter.

It appears to have design elements from all three.
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I hope it's as good as Frontier. :3
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>>13684720
this tbqh

>the uniforms for both sides are uninspired.
>the dudes side wear the same clothes with minute variations
>the female side is the equivalent of a niqab in anime sense
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http://www.macrossworld.com/speakerpodcast-ep-34-macross-delta-ep-0-89-theatrical-screening/
Some fans already watched the first preview episode. Don't listen if you care for spoilers.
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ye i like idols and shit too, but the girls look like shit desu except maybe purple.
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Posting Delta Squadron since they're not on the poster. Here's the main character.
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Mirage Jenius
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>>13684807
>>13684816
Its so fucking dumb that the main characters arent even in the poster
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I'm trying really hard not to be repelled, as I am a fan of Macross, even Frontier... but I'm getting series Love Live vibes... and the male rivals are looking pretty lame too.
It's not helping that the mecha doesn't seem very fresh or interesting.
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>>13684823
Well, technically they are since they're flying the VF-31s.
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>>13684823
>trying original things is now dumb
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>>13684832
I don't know where the hell you're getting Love Live from. They feel more like a halfway point between Macross 7 and 0048, and that's a very good sign.
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>>13684833
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>>13684846
Squad leader.
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>>13684835
Kira yamato the cast is huge thia is going to be unfocused as fuck
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>>13684843
I had never heard of 0048 before this thread, but yeah they do look like that.
Not lessening to Love Live with that comparison though.
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>>13684835
Some ideas are original because its a dumb idea to try them in the first place
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>>13684843
During the preview event Kawamori said he wanted to make this series feel like a mix of 7 and Plus. And one of the writers strongly stated that each episode will have a different tone from the previous. So one episode may feel like a slice of life show and the next a gritty war drama. Anyway here's the captain of one of the Macross class ships.
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>>13684843
What about this looks like Macross 7?
Doesn't look very rock focused, or particularly 90s. Sure isn't the mecha.
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>>13684853
>five pilots, with only 2-3 of them likely to get major focus
>five idols, with only 1-2 of them likely to get major focus
>5-6 enemy pilots
Doesn't seem impractically large if you ask me. That's not really any larger than the casts of SDF, 7, or Frontier.
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>>13684846

> Chuck Mustang

My jaw grew more chiseled just reading that name. He better step up with a name like that.
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>>13684843
>They feel more like a halfway point between Macross 7 and 0048
So complete fucking shit.
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>>13684875
>>five idols, with only 1-2 of them likely to get major focus
God I hope not, that would be a pretty huge waste.
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>>13684863
>having a concert during a battle
>Have pods with shields for protection during song

ORE
WA
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>>13684859
So its gonna be tonally a mess like every Kawamori show.
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>>13684863
Fighting the enemy with a music group. 7 did have an actual idol group you know with the Jamming Birds.
>>13684878
His profile mentions he considers himself a ladies man and likes to hit on women frequently. In the first episode he hits on the lead Walkure singer and she shoots him down immediately. Speaking of...
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>>13684883
Remember 0048? Half of them were practically npcs
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>>13684886
>>having a concert during a battle
Literally every Macross?
Even Plus.
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>>13684891
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>>13684892
>Remember 0048?
No, it's news to me.
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>>13684895
The big sister leader of the group.
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>>13684893
Not in every battle which is what they're doing which is something only Basara did
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>>13684880
>hating fun
DES please go.
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>>13684727
3 decades and 3 years too late you mean
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>honestly enjoyed Macross 7
Am I part of the cancer killing the series?
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>>13684948
>enjoying things
You are the cancer, anon.

Fuck the haters, 7 is fun as fuck. I have pretty high hopes for Delta, too.
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>>13684948
No, you just have an open mind and don't take Macross seriously (which you never should)
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>>13684958
The team mechanic. Something worth mentioning is in the preview episode she acts like a pretty big mecha nerd. She likes to gush about destroids and VFs.
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>>13684956
>>13684958
>Rock&Roll will save universe
Can't understand why anyone can't love this premise. I mean, shit, we have characters singing giant space monsters to death. It's awesome.
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>>13684948
No the ones that think its a serious war series are
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>>13684958
What a cute boy
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>>13684859
There better be a Holy Lonely Night cover.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>13684697
Delta is saving Macross you dirty Plusfag
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>>13684697
By destroying HGm the franchise would have an easier time promoting it if it wasn't restricted in key regions
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Squad leader of the Aerial Knights.
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>>13684994
Captain.
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>>13684997
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>>13685002
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>>13685008
That's all of them.
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>>13684994
AIR SKYMAN
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>>13684697
Let's all sing "Zero G love".
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Delta is giving Japanese fans exactly what they want. It's just too bad Japs have shit taste now.
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>>13685062
>posts an image of the blandest Macross MC and the worst girl in the franchise
I can't tell if this is bait but you got me to reply. Good job.
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>>13685096
Thats not WHO from zero
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>>13685062
Ichijo is bland but it's better that way. The story is about things larger than him.

Minmay is simultaneously worst girl and most important/significant character in the franchise.
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>>13685062
You should of kickstartered the new Robotech cartoon then.
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>>13685167
This. Seems like SDF fags only want more SDF so might as well look into Robotech for your "serious gritty war" action starring Ric- I mean Hikaru.
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>>13685096
>>13685154
I honestly don't understand why Minmay gets so much hate.

Minmay was one of the most complex and well written character in the series. It was even stated that Ranka and Sheryl were created by splitting Minmay's personality into two.
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>>13685227
she's probably the most accurate depiction of a teenage girl in anime history. Unsurprising that she's also the most hated
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>>13685227

You can't halve a zero m8
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>>13685227

/a/spies hate any female character that doesn't pander directly to their fantasies.
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>>13684816
fucking slut
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>>13685271
>jenius
>slut
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>>13685281
>implying she won't jump on the mc dick once he shoves his piloting skills inside her
You know like another blueish haired pilot
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>>13685236
>>13685248
Exactly and that's the problem, which is honestly really sad. Minmay was very well received during her time period. She showed an accurate depiction of what it is being a teenage girl, and also the struggles of being an idol.

Most of the hate stems from her not meeting the unrealistic expectations and fantasies of the current generation of anime watchers.

Lyn Minmay was an average teenage girl, with singing talent. She then became the sole idol of survivors of the human race. Honestly Minmay was a very well written character, she is so well written is Jarring.

As @ghostlightning stated "Idols are fantasies of their male fans, and are held up to be people to be emulated by females."

He even went further to state that "Only that Macross presented Minmay as completely flawed. Very cute and winsome as an idol is supposed to, but also shallow, petty, and egotistical. The idol in Japanese culture is supposed to be loved, and her combination of attributes are manufactured to take loving her for granted. The Macross idol, Minmay actually needs love because she won’t survive (or be a useful person in society) without it, and equally important is how challenging she would be to love"

Minmay haters aren't judging her fairly. I can understand hating a character, but give credit when credit is due. Lyn Minmay was a very beautifully written character, and deserves that respect.

In fact, one could even go as far as saying that the macross series began for the sole perpose of Minmay. Everything in the first series lacked some sort of depth. It was as if all that depth was traded and channeled into Minmay. Which is why she lost the love battle, because she was leagues away from the rest of the cast. She was in a world of her own.
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>>13685319
Sadly, that might even have been her flaw. She was too focused upon. The creators built upon her too much... They tried their best to create an ultimate female character and in the end, failed to properly give her a correct closing.

Which is why I found the whole Minmay being missing in space thing weird. I think they have plans on reviving her character. Perhaps something with time and space.

They even updated her look.
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>>13685297
Max was the slut, threw himself at the first alien chick he could find
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>>13684769
It's a Quarter. If you haven't noticed the Macross Quarter class is different from fleet to fleet. Quarters from Macross 17 and Macross 23 have differing degrees of armaments from Macross Quarter in Wings of Goodbye.
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>>13684697
Add more giant space tuna
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>>13684909
You need to learn the difference between fun and garbage.
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>>13685438
Since the setting is the Outer Rim there are Galactic Whales. Planet Zola is at the Rim where Galactic Whales migrate every year.

Delta has a multi-planetary setting with multiple Protoculture seeded races like Humans on the Rim. The NUN being some multi-species federation now.

Zolans are noted for their two tone hair, sometimes a Cat Snake symbiote around their neck.

>>13684846
Chuck has gills and arm fins
>>13684994
>>13684997
>>13685002
>>13685008
>>13685016
Kingdom of Wind race has hair spears that glow.
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>>13684705
>>13684708
Well, I see my job here has already been done. Time to vanish back into the tubes.
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>>13685503
>spacepiratereactionimage.jpg
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>>13684697

We find a chick who can pilot WHILE singing
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>>13685681
But that's Mylene.
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>>13684697
>How can we save macross /m/?
WE can't safe macross because WE have shit taste and don't know how to make a succesfull product.

Honestly if WE ever made any anime it would be the biggest pile of garbage the world had ever seen.
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>>13684708
>dess
>>>/m/sgg/

Kill yourself too
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>>13685167
>should of
>should
>of
Robotech fags
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>>13685828
I wonder how that VN we're making is turning out
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>>13685870
it's some shitty waifu fest
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>>13685884

>/m/ bitches about waifus and moeshit ruining anime
>when given the chance they too make waifus

BRAVO /m/ TOPKEK
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>>13684715
Getting some very heavy EVOL and Valrave vibes from this PV. Delta will be fun to watch indeed.
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>>13684891
I'd GIRI her AI.
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>>13684958
WARNING: GREEN CHARACTER
DO NOT GET ATTACHED TO IT

It's already too late for me.
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>>13685964
She's my second or third favorite girl after the Jenius and maybe purple just from designs. Maybe they'll be merciful.
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>>13684958
>>13685964
Good thing she looks like an ugly lesbian demiboy.

Even if Kawamori can't let go of his green-hating, he's at least trying to lessen the impact on the audience. Based.
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>>13685970
Nobody cared about spacelf until they learned her name.
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>>13685976
She was already my favorite before the name because of the elf ears though. The Jenius was just a cherry on top.
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>>13685983
So, btw, does this mean that Milia now canonically has elf-ears?
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>>13684775
>the dudes side wear the same clothes with minute variations
I thought those were supposed to be uniforms
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>>13685986
>now
https://youtu.be/UTYV4GPRiIc?t=25
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>>13685991
Let him shitpost in peace.
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So who do you think Mirage's parents are?
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You already know the answer /m/.
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>>13686047
To what?
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>>13685327

Mikimoto updated her, and the entire rest of the cast's looks for a manga retelling similar to the Gundam Origin manga and not for any kind of new anime with her. We've known this for a long time. Kawamori has never indicated any kind of plans to do anything more with her or any of the rest of the SDF cast bar Max and Millia. In fact, the entire reason the central cast are lost in space is so he doesn't HAVE to. It was his way of getting them out of the way so he and the setting could move on despite the show's success.

Also ultimate female character? Jesus, could you suck Minmay's dick any harder? I actually like her character and think she serves her purpose great within the story, but you sound like a rabid fanboy.
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>>13685096
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>>13686131
He does have plans but he doesn't think he can execute it well enough to make it
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>Boys look good
>Girls look good
>Music sounds decent
This will sell, around EVOL's numbers I wager. The mecha is irrelevant at this point
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>>13685974
>Demiboy
stop talking about fantasy creatures on a sci-fi board.
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>>13685248

What are you talking about? Minmay is hated on /m/ for the same reasons. Any realistic teenage character like Minmay or Kamille get shat on for not being some idealized 30 year old hardened soldier.
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>>13685327
>failed to properly give her a correct closing.

How so? Her concert at the end of DYRL is both heartbreaking and optimistic. It was a perfect send off for the character.
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>>13686195
>Kamille
>realistic
Impressively flawed, yes. Realistic? No.
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>>13686158

Source?
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>>13686237
it's from one of those delta podcasts
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>There are people who actually bitch about idols in Macross.
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>>13686274
Just UC Gundamfags acting like experts on the entire genre because they read a Wikipedia/TVTropes article, as usual.
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My predictions for Delta (which are likely to be 100% accurate):

>Mirage is going to be a annoying tsundere bitch, but she is going to win.
>Touhou-Ranka is going to be surprisingly likable, but doesn't stand a chance.
>Mikumo is going to be the undisputed best girl.
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>>13685884
>>13685892
You just know that the alternative would have been a gritty military game with grizzled veterans and no comedy whatsoever. Could be worse, really.

>>13686131
>Mikimoto
Never mind what happens to the SDF cast, I'm more concerned about whether he'll have the guts to finish his retelling at all before he dies.
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>>13686282
The older grill usually wins so yeah
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>>13685892
>/m/ not hypocritical shits that deny everything wrong with something they like.
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>>13686282
>a pilot
>winning
>in Macross
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>>13686282
My prediction is that Mirage will be the first Jenius girl with decent porn.
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>>13686306
>Milia
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>>13685976
She's a big girl.
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>>13686306
>Milia & Max
>Hikaru
>Gamlin
>Alto
>Klan Klan
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>>13686282
This is why Kawamori decided for a game show wheel approach this time; at least one girl will win big. Come to think of it, maybe someone here should make a character bingo for the show, but instead of who lives or dies (in before pineapple salad), it's who gets to be paired up.
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>>13686319

Max, Milia, and Klan Klan weren't in love triangles, so they don't really count while Hikaru and Alto were the lead point in the love triangle and not one of the two competitors fighting against someone to win so they don't really count either. Gamlin is the only one who wasn't the lead point in a love triangle and was actually competing to win one. And he didn't actually win. No-one won, because it's never said, at least to my knowledge that someone won that decisively. I'd definitely imagine him and Mylene hooked up because Basara literally never showed the slightest hint of interest and saw Mylene solely as a younger sister - but then, I'd say that's how Alto always saw Ranka too and my thoughts don't mean Kawamori and co thought the same thing. Unless some side material cleared it up I guess.
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>>13686343
>I'd say that's how Alto always saw Ranka too and my thoughts don't mean Kawamori and co thought the same thing
Apparently Kawamori did feel the same way, considering how it was handled in the movie.
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>>13686343
Other than Gamlin, has there EVER been a triangle with a pilot who wasn't at the center of it? If not, it's kinda dumb to say >>13686306
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>>13686341
>it's a pineapple salad show
>it's the new zeta or exodus
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>>13686359

Even Gamlin had a pilot at the center of it, because all 3 were pilots.
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You are all assuming the main triangle is going to be between Mirage, the idol girl and the protagonist when in the podcast they mention Freyja fled from home in part because they were going to marry her to someone and seeing how she seems to be from the Kingdom of Wind I think there's a high possibility that guy is one of the knights.
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>no Yoko Kano
Trashed
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>>13686359
Yeah, Plus. Though both Isamu and Guld were pilots so that doesn't matter.
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>>13686381
So that means one of Knight is a cuck.
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>>13685828
>Honestly if WE ever made any anime it would be the biggest pile of garbage the world had ever seen.
>>13685870
>>13685884
>>13686288
>>13685892

Top kek
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>>13686359
I guess you could say that Sharon piloted the Ghost.

And she certainly didn't win the Isamu.
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>>13686291
>>13686306
>>13686308
>>13686341
I like how nobody is disputing that Mirage is going to be a bitch.
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>>13686442
Well her mom was a bitch so...
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Anybody dares to guess what main conflict in the show is going to be about?
And I'm not talking about romantic conflict.
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>>13686442
Because nothing implies that she is. And in before she angrily grabs MC by his shirt in the trailer doesn't make her one. Its more likely MC did something retarded which is why Mirage acted as such.

>>13686448
Just who do you imply is the mother? We have absolutely no information.
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Guys what if Mirage dies?
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>>13686484
Who cares, if its anything like Frontier it'll be sidelined until the very end and not make much sense.
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>>13686513
>if it's anything like Plus
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>>13686514
>if it's anything like previous Macross installments
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>>13686484
it's about a virus that does stuff
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>>13686361
On second thought, maybe the bingo should have who wins, loses, lives and dies.

>>13686484
The Macross equivalent to the Hate Plague. Plus, there's an unknown foreign party involved, so I suppose it would be a conflict of interest.

>>13686504
That would be unprecedented in a shocking way, but I severely doubt a Jenius would die that easily.
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>>13686500
Meant grandma. Forgot she was a next generation kid.
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>>13684697
So is this new Macross going to be better than the recent Gundams?
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>>13686484
Is about cute idols fighting against intergalactic europeans infected with something similar to Rabies
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>>13686561
Perfect.

How cute are the idols gonna be?
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>>13686557
Was Frontier better than 00?
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>>13686557
With that shit CG and character designs? Hell no.
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>>13686581
A thousand times better.
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>>13686581
Yeah.
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>>13686557
Maybe AGE but so far this looks worse than it
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>>13686581
Ask yourself this, do you remember the plot in Frontier at all or the characters?
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>>13686591
Well you got me there.
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>>13686042
If we just go with purple hair excluding non-purple hair then either Muse or Therese or...
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>>13686581
Considering Frontier was just a shittier version of SEED with Valkyries and a blander lead....no.
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>>13686591
Pretty well, actually. And I've only seen it once.
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>>13686591
Fuck.
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>>13686591
>Implying I remember anything other than Setsuna Gundam from 00.
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>>13686591
I remember Sheryl but then again I'm pretty sure that's the only character anyone remembers from Frontier.
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>>13686591
I'm not even sure what was the badguy's motive was.
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>>13684697
It looks like fujobait vs yuribait.
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>>13686595
The adopted daughter Moaramia "Jifon" Fallyna Jenius.

Moaramia or Moa was a experimental Meltrandi by Zentradi rebel forces piloting their Variable Glaug. Unlike a typical clone vat Meltran Moa was designed to be a loli to fit the small cockpit Variable Glaug. Max and Milia shot her down and adopted her. Growing up to be young lady joining Dancing Skulls. She wasn't around when Mylene was born as she is UN Spacy special forces.
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>>13686607
Look at this Sheryrfag.
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>>13686607
>I'm pretty sure that's the only character anyone remembers from Frontier
I'm pretty sure you don't speak for everyone on /m/.
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Well at least it isn't that SMTXFE game
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>>13686604
>Not remembering Graham MOTHERFUCKIN Aker
>Not remembering Prince Ali
>Not remembering Nena Trinity
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>>13686623
You're right he just speaks for everyone in general as far as Frontier is concerned.
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>>13686628
Oh yeah, I remember Nena. I fapped a lot to her doujins.
No idea who the other two are.
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>>13686591
That's not fair. Frontier's cast is shit even by Macross standards.
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>>13686591
From 00 I remember
ORE WA GUNDAM DA
Lockon dying
And Prince Ali being a dick
MUHRIE
From Frontier I remember
That first episode
The fight in Episode 7
Pineapple Salad
Micheal dying
dat finale
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>>13686591
I just remember the really shitty CG in it.
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>>13686635
Here's a pity reply.
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>>13686638
Oh and klan whatever her name romanizes to
going ham right after Micheal bites it
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>>13686629
>implying you know
Who is this "everyone in general" you speak of? You know as much as everyone else here that's bullshit.
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>>13686646
>Who is this "everyone in general" you speak of?
Everyone who watched Frontier. If you looked at every Newtype character poll Sheryl is the only character from Macross Frontier ranked, nobody cares about the rest and for good reason.
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>>13686648
You saying other macross characters are also forgettable because they don't rank in a magazine for teens?
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>>13686581
Yes. They were both good, though. Yes, even 00 S2.
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>>13686657
Pretty sure nobody remembers Hikaru or Misa.
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>>13686648
>implying Newtype polls determines which characters everyone remembers from an anime
>implying Newtype polls aren't already rigged
Anon just stop with the bullshit.
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>>13686657
>magazine for teens
Newtype has been running for over 30 years.
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>>13686664
I DO
Misa at least

Isamu and Basara are the only memorable protags anyway
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>>13686667
I don't think anyone over thirty would consistently rank Kira as a good character or anyone else on that list desu.
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>>13686665
>implying Newtype polls determines which characters everyone remembers from an anime
I still remember Kira and Lacus because they're always ranked in those polls.
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>>13686581
Leagues better.
>>13686639
ur shit
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>>13686671
Popularity=/=Good
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>>13686673
Is that a PS1 game?
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>>13686557

http://myanimelist.net/people/10146/Kenji_Yasuda

http://myanimelist.net/people/8136/Toshizou_Nemoto
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>>13686679
>shading
>AA
>those particles
>reasonably smooth animation
>the resolution

nigga did you even own a PS1?
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>>13686581
Let's see, Frontier literally had no fucking plot and was just one big shipperfag anime with an obvious outcome. The three leads were obnoxious and the rest of the cast were literal whos and the CG was fucking shit.

00 completely fucked itself over in the second season and got worse with the movie. The cast got underused and the action got relegated to beamspam cultivating to an unsatisfying conclusion.

Tough call. I'll go with 00 because Patrick was a better character than anyone in Frontier.
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>>13686672
>I still remember Kira and Lacus because they're always ranked in those polls
That's what Newtype polls want you to remember. Kira and Lacus sometimes drop in rank but rarely get bumped out of the top 10.
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>>13686623
It's all just one guy samefagging to make himself seem like he's right. In a thread where people are talking about Ozma, on a board that calculated Klan's breast size.
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>>13686700
>shading
>reasonably smooth animation
>the resolution

Must be tough being blind.
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>>13686714
Still above anything the PS1 can do
That's PS2 shit
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>>13686706
>All this hyperbole
>using literally wrong
Embarrassing.
>>
>>13686711
>In a thread where people are talking about Ozma,
This is the first mention of Ozma in this entire fucking thread.
>on a board that calculated Klan's breast size.
Says loads about how good a character is when they only thing you remember about her is her breasts.
>>
>>13686721
>n-n-n-n-n-no u

Embrassing
>>
>>13686711
>samefagging

Always funny to see Macrossfags get butthurt whenever people point out how much Frontier sucked.
>>
>>13686623
You make seem like Frontier is praised here to begin with.
>>
>>13686734
>Says the 00fag
>>
>>13686734
Don't you have some new toys to sell Tomino
>>
>>13686711
>In a thread where people are talking about Ozma

The only thing I remember about Ozma is him being a Fire Bomber fan and being voiced by Kamina.
>>
>>13686648
You heard him here. Gundam Seed Destiny and Sword Art Online are masterpieces.
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>>13686743
7fag actually
>>
>>13686746
>Tomino
>wanting to sell toys
kek
that's banrise's job
>>
>>13686740
You seem to imply your opinion was fact or actually mattered.
>>
>>13686754
Notice that he said nothing about the quality of the works, not like Frontier is any better than SAO or GSD.
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>>13686758
>Tomino "Syd Mead was a mistake" Tomino doesn't care about toy sales
Pic related.

>>13686764
Nice back-peddle, "he".
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>>13686762
>opinion
Talking about the general opinion of the board sweetie.
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>>13686769
I'm the board and I say you're a fucking faggot.
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>>13686762
Even Macrossfags think Frontier is shit. Its the SEED of the franchise.
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>>13686769
>general opinion of the board
Talking as if you are the general opinion
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>>13686773
"Macrossfags" also think 7 is shit and Plus is the greatest love story every written.

Gundamfags thing Wing is good and 0080 is terrible.

See how this works?
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>>13686770
>>13686776
>mfw 7 gets more threads than Frontier
>mfw the only person still praising Frontier nowadays is an obnoxious tripfaggot
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>>13686773
>Its the SEED of the franchise
Grab a load of this delusional faggot.
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>>13686786
>[citation needed]
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>>13686778
If by "Macrossfags" and "Gundamfags" you mean retards from ANN, sure.
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>>13686789
Lurk moar
>>
>>13686773
>>13686791
>>
>>13686679

If you can find me even a PS2 game that looks that good I'd be impressed, never mind a PS1 game.
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>>13686787
>delusional
>brought back people's interest in the franchise after the failure of the 20th anniversary entry
>Introduced modern anime elements and focused exclusively on love drama
>Bland and boring leads
>Shit animation
>Is now only remembered for one character being more popular than anyone else

It fits like a glove!
>>
>>13686591
>one posts sends gundam and macross autists into a fit trying to explain why their cartoon is better than the other

/m/anchildren will they ever learn?
>>
>>13686786
>>13686796
Citation or you're just pulling it out of your ass which you likely are.
>>
>>13686803
>If you can find me even a PS2 game that looks that good I'd be impressed
You're joking right?
>>
>>13686809
>Seed
>love drama
Where? 0079 had more love drama than Seed.
>>
>>13686814

Nope. You make it sound like it's simple though, so I'm sure it'll be no problem to post an example.
>>
>>13686803
You need to get your eyes checked.
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>>13686814
Ah, "You're joking right?".
Truely the Shadow of the Colossus of the PS2.

>>13686820
Saying it again won't make it anymore true.
>>
>>13686721
I've personally stopped trying to have good Macross threads because they only go on productively for so long before our version of Valverager comes out of the woodwork to spout his usual bullshit.

I mean, it's not so bad for those of us who have actually watched any given Macross series, as it's clear it's just the inane ramblings of a troll, but we lose out on both the chance to have any civil discussion and the opportunity to talk with new potential Macross fans.

Though I'd hope that when a thread consists of the kind of obvious shitposting this one does, anons interested in Macross watch it for themselves and form their own opinions. As for the rest of us, you all seem to fall for this shitty bait hook, line and sinker. Just get back to talking about variable fighters already and ignore that shit, god damn.
>>
Macrossfags are only slightly above Symphogearfags in the delusional territory. What is it about Satellight anime and retarded fanboys?
>>
>>13686812
This is why people say /m/ is the easiest bait.
>>
>>13686818
Good to see you didn't watch either
>>
>>
>>13686813
Lurk moar newshit
>>
>>13686838
They're not lying. When there are hours and near a hundred replies without shitposts and then this shit >>13686834 happens repeatedly, people should just stop responding and move on. But alas, /m/ never learns.
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>>13686819
The Bouncer which was an early PS2 brawler by Squaresoft. Now here comes the part where you say no Frontier looks better as people continue to laugh at your stupidity.
>>
>>13686838
Naw, that will always be /v/. All you have to do is say "female gamers" and the rest of the thread is ruined.

>>13686839
Are you seriously saying Seed has better character drama than 0079? Is that something you want to go to your grave having said?
>>
>>13686838
It's the perfect combination of dead enough to not attract mods and not dead enough that you actually get replies
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>>13686854
ebin
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>>13686812
>Macrossfags are so insecure about Gundam being the better more popular franchise that they go into a fit of rage whenever it gets brought up.

Next year is going to be fun.
>>
>>13686866
Is that a screenshot from Macross Delta?
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>>13686869
That's not how the neck connects to the upper back. I swear, you /co/fags will fap at fucking stick figures.
>>
>>13686869
/co/ pls
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>>13686866
>>13686673
I can't tell the difference.
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>>13686874
Yeah man.
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>>13686846
>makes a completely baseless claim
>has absolutely nothing to back it up
Still adamant pulling shit out of your ass, tripfag.
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>>13686884
You're right it looks way too good.
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>>13686854
That's like the people saying Macross 30 looked like a Dreamcast game in the lead up to its release. It's funny how angry people get about it and how easily they can be baited by comments like that, but no one actually believes that shit. At this point, the only funny person here is you and your weakass bait.
>>
>>13686886
>baseless
Lurk moar newshit
>>
>>13686888
Still not seeing how this looks worse than this>>13686673 or anything we've seen in Delta this far.
>>
>>13686892
>Lurk moar
You still got shit coming out of your ass, tripfag.
>>
>>13686903
You still need to lurk moar newshit
>>
>>13686892
>>13686903
>>13686906
>no u
You're both cancer.
>>
>>13686906
You still need to quit shitting out the same fucking meme that doesn't prove your claim tripfag.
>>
>>13686929
Stop feeding it, retard. It doesn't care about being right, it cares about derailing threads.
>>
>>13686929
You still need to stop asking for sauce and check the archives at your disposal newshit.
>>
I liked this thread better when we were talking about Mirage. Seriously, she's a bitch.
>>
>>13686935
You're not helping dumbfuck
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>>13686941
>first episode isn't even out
>already calling her a bitch

Boy, I hope waifu wars on /m/ don't rival the ones on /a/
>>
>>13686938
Doesn't change the fact you only have a baseless claim and you're too fucking autistic to personally back it up especially when the burden of proof falls on you. So please fuck off tripfag.
>>
>>13687040
Doesn't change the fact that youre too autistic to search the archieve so you cry baseless whenever someone doesnt spoonfeed you especially when the burden of proof lies on you. So please lurk moar newshit.
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>>13687031
Rankafags on /m/ are still mad. Meanwhile on /a/ no one cares anymore
>>
>>13687132
They will start caring when Delta airs, then forget about it again when it ends
That's /a/ for you: seasonal plebs
>>
>>13687031
>literally every shot of her is angry
>not a bitch
>>
>>13687195
>male character is angry
>he's the cool manly man we've always asked for
>>
>>13687098
>makes a claim you can't prove
>calls it spoonfeeding when you have nothing on your end
>futilely attempts to pass the burden of proof when common sense dictated that it should be you
Nice try tripfag. But you obviously hit a snag with your retarded argument. Lurk moar before spewing shit out.
>>
>90+ posts since the trolling started
>only 7 new unique posters
Sounds legit.
>>
>>13684697
I love the VF 31.

But can some kind anon pls explain to me how the fighters of the antagonists group transform?

I didnt see them transforming in any of the PVs and looking at them, they just dont look like they are made to transform.

Are they based on the Ghost or what?
>>
>>13684859
Sometimes you need a little Hart and a big Johnson.
>>
>>13686195
Then why are shitty tsunderes like asuka loved?
>>
>>13686282
I don't know who ANY of them are
>>
>>13687272
No one knows. They don't even transform in the preview ep
>>
>>13687195
>I have no idea of how a bitch acts like: the post

>>>/r9k/
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>>13687288
>tsunderes
>not idealized anime bullshit
>>
>>13687288

Asuka isn't realistic for a start. She's the opposite of idealized, but as far out the other side of it in the bad direction as idealized is in the good way. Practically the entire cast of Evangelion are like that actually. She's completely broken and co-dependent despite her desire to be the best, angry at the entire world and a super awesome warrior who just isn't quite as good as the other child. It's rescued by the fact that she's romantically or sexually curious enough to imagine her doing shit with you if you're occasionally nice to her like Shinji and that despite being so awesome and cool she's not quite awesome and cool enough to not need help. She hates you and lashes out at you but only because she loves you, which for some people is cute apparently.
>>
>>13687292
Quick recap:

Mirage is the meltran pilot from the Jenius family.
Touhou-Ranka is either referring to Freyja (orangeish-haired idol) or Reina (green-haired idol).
Mikumo is the purple-haired idol.
>>
>>13687351
So, idealized.
>>
>>13687361

An idealization of broken-ness in a "my love/dick can fix her way" I suppose yea. Which I think is distinct from normal idealization personally.
>>
>>13684895
I can tell this is gonna be best girl not counting Jenius of course
>>
so livestream when?
>>
>>13684891
I am somehow convinced that this chick is some kind of vampire and I am going to be very disappointed when that doesn't turn out to be the case.
>>
>>13686591
A bunch of evil cyborg assholes wanted to enslave an entire race of hivemind alien insects, and so the main characters saved the alien insects and settled on their home planet.
>>
>>13686869
No, more annoyed by HG shenanigans.
>>
So is every Delta thread just gonna be Gundamfags mad about how G-Reco and IBO turned out, and Macrossfags mad about how Frontier turned out?

Can't we talk about the new series instead?
>>
>>13687682
G-Reco is great tho
Personally I don't care about previous Macross shows or any of this forced fanbase war, I just want to see how Delta's first episode turns out.
>>
>>13687682
We will have SDF and Robotech fans bitching about.
>>
>>13687740
G-Reco was average at most.
>>
>>13687751
Nah, it was great.
>>
>>13687753
It was garbage
>>
>>13687682
Frontier had great movies.
>>
>>13687791
Yeah, but everyone seems to selectively ignore those when it comes time to say nice things about Frontier.
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>>13687791
>>
>>13687795
Because the TV series exist and the movies weren't good.
>>
>>13687787
Only if you were retarded
>>
>>13687795

I say nice things about Frontier tv, but then, I like Frontier tv. The movies are good too, but I prefer the tv show in the end. I especially hate the "forgotten childhood meeting" thing the movies introduced between Sheryl and Alto. It's an unnecessary contrivance and kind of fucks with their relationship in my opinion. I like that Sherly took a liking to Alto because he wasn't wowed by the glamour of her fame and just saw a girl, while Alto liked her because she was flirtatious and extroverted and pulled him out his shell. That works great as is and doesn't need any fated romance shit to help it.
>>
>>13687799
>>13687802
But that's wrong.
>>
>>13687804
On the other hand, Ranka suffers a Class IX Friendzoning in the movies, which automatically elevates them to be one of the best things in the entire Macross franchise.
>>
>>13687802
*Unless you were retarded
>>
>>13687811

She was friendzoned pretty hard in the tv series anyways, since Alto barely treats her like a love interest and more like a younger sister through out the whole thing. The tv series has him living with Sheryl for several episodes while Ranka is nowhere to be seen for instance.
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>>13687791
>great
>LOL RANKA AND ALTO ARE CHILDHOOD FRIENDS
>BUT LOL SHERYL AND ALTO MET WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER
>Somehow the plot makes less sense in the movies proving how half baked it all was
>Ending is still shit

And then I went to see who wrote this shit and low and behold it was the same writer as Guilty Shit.
>>
>>13687787
See >>13687753
>>
>>13687791
Oh, yeah, I loved the part where they pity spared one of the characters from dying just because he was popular. And the part where they ripped off Macross Zero and left the franchise in a cliffhanger forever for no reason.
Oh, wait, no, they fucking sucked.
>>
>>13687810
Why?
>>13687791
Nope.
>>
>>13687821
Your smug anime girl convinced me.
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>>13687816
>>13687811
>shipperfags
>>
Wings of Tomorrow had the best ending with Kawamori trolling both Ranka and Sheryl faggots.
>>
>>13687830
Or how they removed Nao from the films so Ranka is a friendless loser and Micheal is a forever alone faggot.
>>
>>13687839
>complaining about shipping in fucking Macross
>>
>>13687839

> only shipperfags can appreciate a decent bit of romance

I couldn't care less if Alto ended up with Ranka or Sheryl so long as it was decently written and I think the Sheryl/Alto romance was well written so I like it. I don't ship anyone in anything.
>>
>>13687849
*Wings of Goodbye, I have no idea why I always call it Wings of Tomorrow.
>>
>>13687849
This. Fuck shipperfags.
>>
>>13687849
Just like how he trolled Souseifags with EVOL right
>Hahahahaha you just watched a piece of shit.
>>
>>13687857
>I think the Sheryl/Alto romance was well written
I think you're a fucking idiot
>>
I think everyone is taking Macross too seriously.
>>
This thread has turned back into "Macrossfags mad about how Frontier turned out".
>>
>>13687889
inb4 "butthurt gundamfag"
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>>13687855
>SDF
>II
>Plus
>7
>Zero
>shipping
>>
>>13687682
It's literally the same guy repeating the same thing over and over. It's not going to make it true no matter how many people he replies to pretending to be a different person.

Just count how many replies there are like this and then compare that to how many new posters there have been today in this thread. >>13687889
>>
>>13687821
That guy wrote the series while Kawamori was in charge of the movies, if I'm not wrong. At least the second one. Also, Ranka and Alto are just friends, they didn't meet when they were kids. In the movies they probably met through Michel.
>>
I don't really understand why people here get mad at SDF fags. SDF was objectively the best Macross TV series, so much so that it's not even up for debate. Are there people who honestly think Frontier and Zero were better and we need more of that?
>>
>>13688276
>Frontier and Zero were better and we need more of that
Yes, exactly
>>
>>13688276
It's not that, it's just that do we really need to keep going on about how bad Zero and Frontier were?
>>
>>13688276
That's not 7 m8
>>
>>13688276
SDF was wonderful, but I wouldn't call it "objectively the best, so much so that it's not even up for debate." While SDF was indeed an excellent show that did a lot of things very well, DRYL, Plus, 7, and Frontier all bring their own strengths to the table as well. They're all very different works, each with their own advantages and disadvantages compared to the others, and that's a big part of what makes Macross great.

And in any case, as much as I like the original, I ended up enjoying DYRL, Plus, and maybe even Frontier more than SDF.
>>
>>13687272
It doesn't transform in the preview episode but it was shown that the gunpod can swivel like a turret and it has small Ghost like droids that it can launch from itself.
>>
Approximately 4 hours til episode 1 special airs.
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>>13689553
Is there a stream?
>>
How many love triangles and how many will intersect?
Will it top Nagi no Asukara?
>>
>>13690074
>6 girls and 10 dudes
We're in for Peak Kawamori
>>
40 minutes left and still no stream link.
>>
5 mins! Goodness it is like 2008. No stream I'm using fucking Keyhole TV!
>>
>>13690252
Correction 15 mins
>>
This thread is way past the bump limit. Might want to make a new one if a stream pops up.
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>>13690284
New thread
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