ALL WINGS CHECK IN

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>>13632745
It's not yet Thursday, Bob.

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Spike-2, alright!

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Spike-3, quite well!

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Spike-4, everything A-OK!

>A glib facsimile

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Green Leader, standing by!

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Firewing standing by.

yesyesyesyes

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Red Comet, standing by

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Red Spoiler, standing by

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SKREOOOOONK

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Red-5, standing by!

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Aggressor-1, commencing bombardment

>>13633124
A shame his career had to be cut short.

>>13633124
God dammit, I didn't believe it when I heard it. I thought it was just shitposting.

Why must you do this?

>>13633199
>clicking on a spoiler before watching the film
>complaining about being spoiled about something literally everyone knew was going to happen

>>13633208
I forgot it was a damn Star Wars thread for a moment, ok?

>>13633199
I didn't do nothing; I'm a good boy.

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Erzuh sehvuhn, sftandin rye.

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WingWing standing by.

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Red leader, standing by.

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Viridian vampire, feeling fabulous!

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Red leader, standing by.

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Dandy leader, standing baby.

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>>13633279
clone 1, standing by

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Focus 1, standing by

>>13633127
Red Goji?

>>13633102
>>13633279
>>13633290
This is too many Chars.

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Beargguy standing by

>>13633362
That's why it's called the Clone Wars, anon.

>>13633102
>>13633279
>>13633290
What would happen if you painted the Death Star red? Would it charge the beam three times faster?

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Ashia clan clan
And the ctral ctral empire
Standing by

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>>13633124

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>>13633369
It would be three times louder.

>>13633208
That doesn't make me wanna blow anons head off with a shotgun any less, ya know?

>>13633389
Well, if Episode 2 could have fucking sonic bombs in space, why not.

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White Glint, standing by

>>13633209
If it makes you feel any better, you're not alone. My curiosity got the better of me, hoping it would be an anime I've already seen.

>>13633389
Makes sense, since there's no air in space that slows down the sound waves.

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Red Buster, standing by

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Red Forman, standing by

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k-IgxNOpCg Brown Two, standing by.

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>>13633393
>>13633399
>SAA HAJIMARU ZE SATURDAY NIGHT

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A message to all residents: The Quasi-Bahamut class Aerial Metropolitan ship Musashi shall ring the toll at 8:30am, courtesy of Musashi Ariadust Academy. We shall enter an information blackout stealth mode at 10:00am. Your cooperation is appreciated. Over.

>>13633124
I won't say I didn't expect heavy spoilers. But I still do not approve. regardless
Goddamn 4chan addiction.

>>13633408
He was in Star Trek trice, is he allowed to be in a Star Wars thread?

Although the Star Wars episode Of That 70's Show was pretty fun.

>>13633489
Red Forman is ALWAYS allowed.

>>13633463
S3 never

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>>13632745
Gold leader standing by

>>13633048
Infuriating isn't it? Shows that trolls are everywhere.

>>13633497
But at least the translations are still going thanks to based js06.

Over.

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Red October, Shtanding by.

>>13633603
I'd watch Shtar Warsh, starring Sean Connery as Obiwan Kenobi.

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Red Baron, standing by.

Big Guy is here for you

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>>13633124
Jesus, I heard the movie was kind of stupid and melodramatic but seriously?

It sounds like the Unicorn of the Star Wars series, neither bad or great but trading way too hard on rehash and nostalgia

>>13633744

I don't see how apparently killing off one of the nostalgic anchors of the franchise is 'trading way too hard on rehash and nostalgia.

>>13633744
Really? It sounds more like how Skyfall is just one big retirement job for Judi Dench because she's too old and blind to do the work anymore.

>>13633744
>>13633760
"This is the Millenium Falcon! You're Han Solo!"
https://www.instagram.com/p/_W8gH_RWwZ/

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Red One standing by.

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>>13632745
>ALL WINGS CHECK IN

Gundam Wings checking in

A prequel fan that finds Plinkett to be am autistic snob standing by

>>13633857
>to be an

>>13633857
I can assure you that as a prequel fan you're in no position to be calling Plinkett autistic

>>13633760
The original Star Wars also had the mentor character killed by the masked armor-clad mystery man too. From what I've heard, the new Star Wars is following in the footsteps of the original pretty solidly.

>>13633760
>I don't see how SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER is 'trading way too hard on rehash and nostalgia
Everything I'm hearing is that it's going for retread value: what worked and was loved before as plot points, much like how Unicorn picked and choosed the most loved motifs from UC.

The spoiler isn't exactly a new thing either considering similar stuff happened in ROTJ, and to a lesser degree the soap opera in ESB.

>>13633866
Cool mouth, does it talk with dialogue?

>>13633866
Plinketts reviews had more autism than Sonich comics, lets be honest here.

>>13633805
>https://www.instagram.com/p/_W8gH_RWwZ/

Eh, still better than 'They live on the moons of Iego, I think.'

>>13633866
>defending garbage
What a new low this board sank to for supporting reddit shits

>>13633866
Yes I am, I don't have autism, yutz.

>>13633866
>liking sperglord reviews
Go back to Channel Autist

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>>13633124
I don't know if I'm more disappointed by this spoiler or by the amount of lens flare in that shot.

>>13633866
>actually saying this on 4chan

>>13633867

Well, not that such is an entirely bad thing.

Sneak peeks aside, I suppose we'll just have to wait to judge it on its own merits.

>>13633866
>hating prequels
I bet you like Shit Junkies

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>>13633744
>Unicorn of the Star Wars

Kylo = Hathaway Noa
Snoke = Vist Foundation + Paptimus Sirocco
Hux = Angelo + Bask Om

>>13633906
Like it's going to stop people from saying Abrams is a hack.

Luke is just going to be the Yoda of the sequel trilogy.

>>13633930
But Abrams IS a hack.

>>13633930
>Like it's going to stop people from saying Abrams is a hack.
Because he is a hack

>>13633948
>>13633961
nuWars is not bad, though.

>>13633948
>>13633961
You like fucking gundam, you don't get to call others hacks.

>>13633967
Remember an entire generation of SW brats grew up on the prequels, to them it's a turd wrapped in childhood nostalgia, AND THEY ARE POSTING ON 4CHAN NOW.

>>13633967
I hate to break this to you anon, but the prequels were solid.

>>13633979
Please even as a kid I thought midichlorians was stupid.

But then again as a kid my guiding rule was "a good star wars film is a star wars film with a bombastic space battle." Which is why ROTJ is the best of the whole series.

>>13633979
More like gold that gets shat on by sheeple or as you understand it Baaaaaaaah

>>13633967
Yes, deal with it and get >>>/out/

>>13633975
You like Abrams, you don't get to tell other people not call him a hack

>>13633967
Blockbuster Buster is that you?

>>13633967
We are proud victims like Anita Sarkessian

>>13633967
Yes, they were awesome, get over it.

>>13634010
I don't like Abrams though. I can hate multiple things.

>>13633967
lol it's more hipster to ride the bandwagon of hating the prequels. I bet you're one of them. Have you even watched Star Wars?

>Is your inherit hipsterism making like shit that the general public hate?

Good on you for not forming your own opinion.

>>13634027
>I don't like Abrams though.

That's hilarious, considering you just assumed we like Gundam.

Star Wars ending spoiler:

the luke skywalken fires the blaster into the Vaa Ral Sith Master and then they do the disco on the starship exitprize

>>13634036
Yes, I have watched star wars, I watched EP1 when it was in theaters, I thought it was bad because George clearly had no idea what the fuck he was doing, I hated 2 because it went fucking nowhere most of the time, had even worst dialogue, a romance subplot so poorly written, genuinely poorly written, it makes anime romantic subplots in shonens look like good by comparison. I have my own opinions, and you're just trying to piss me off aren't you?

>>13634061
No, you just sound like a sheep.

>>13634067
Piss off, I can't believe you are defending genuinely shitty films out of sheer, bloody-minded spite.

>>13634073
Except I like the prequels, you dope.

Do you get this angry when someone disagrees with you in real life?

>>13634082
At least tell me WHY you like the prequels, despite its many failings.

>>13634073
>can't believe
And you call prequel fans autistic, what irony
>>13634090
I don't know about him, but for me it was pretty much everything done right.

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BLUE FLASH standing by!

>>13634090
It expanded upon the mythos and made the galaxy feel 'bigger' than it ever did in the original trilogy. I also think Ewan McGregor was brillaint and the choreography of the lightsaber duels was intense. There's a lot of subtle stuff, especially in RotS, that may or may not have been unintentional that sheds a lot of light on the characters' (specifically Anakin's) motivations throughout the trilogy.

TPM is a bit meh, I won't deny that. If your argument agaisnt it is "Jar Jar and lil boy Anakin" then you need to get your head out of your ass.

AotC has the neat murder subplot and it shows us a bit of the going-ons of the Jedi, which is cool to see.

RotS is undeniably a good movie and you're dumb if you think it isn't.

>>13634090
Episode 1 had 4 cool final battles and neat creatures, Episode 2 had less but more well rounded fights as did 3. The midi-chlorian complaints allow you to determine which people deserve to go into the ocean with concrete shoes.

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>>13633140
Riot 1 standing by

>>13634128
The fucking cartoons showed Anakin's descent into darkness better.

>>13633124
Good thing I read that it's a spoiler and didn't read any of the replies. I forgot I shouldn't go into Star Wars threads.

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>>13632745
I am the wing which challenges the disastrous wind.

I never understood people complaining about midichlorians.

>>13634172
The whole thing was a multi media project You were SUPPOSED to watch the cartoons.

>>13633124

GOD DAMN IT

>>13634253
I always felt that you shouldn't need some sort of technobabbled measurement metric to identify Force sensitives, you'd just have a good hunch because Force and all and it would be up to the academy to do the rest, washout or not.

It felt like a Star Trek sort of thing, if that makes sense. Too sciencey for something as spiritual as the Force.

>>13634289
>science in my sci-fi? do not want!

>>13634289
Ok, I can see that. It doesn't bother me but I can see where you're coming from.
The most frequent complaint I hear is that people seem to think that midichlorians ARE the Force though.

>>13634299
Well that's LARGELY what Ep1 implies, them being anything else is basically retcon.

>>13634321
Aren't they just what allows the Force and living beings to interact? Like a conduit.

>>13634328
Just treat the midis as indicators rather than the cause.

>>13634367
That's actually what a lot of the EU stuff does. It's good that they never really bring up Midi-chlorians in the other two movies.

>>13634128

The actual dialogue and directing is all kusoge, but the world building is fantastic. And the effects were staggering at the time. Imagine going from the small space battles of the OT to huge ground battles of Genosis without any preparation

>>13634419
I've heard other folks say this and I think I agree--I feel very bad for Hayden Christiansen, who played grown-up Anakin. He's a good actor on his own and he really did his best in the prequels, but they gave him such awful lines that there wasn't much he could do.

You also have to feel for Jake Lloyd, who played kid Anakin. I heard Phantom Menace pretty much ruined his life. Hard to imagine how anyone could hear "NOW THIS IS PODRACING" as many times as he undoubtedly has without going crazy.

>>13634419
>the effects were staggering at the time
I remember thinking "these look kind of shit" at the time, but I guess looking back they were comparatively impressive considering the technology and the artistic skill that went into making them.

But they still look like shit.

>>13634440
>they're autistic because I disagree with them
And your video is only proving us right.

>>13634440
Holy shit this video is pretty good, thanks anon!

>>13634440
I like this vid, fuck those prequel rants

>>13634440
>proving the prequel lovers right
Great job!
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>>13634440
Gotta love how shitkett said the jedi didn't care about their mission when they did.

>>13634440
Gotta love how hard Plinkett's shit character test got destroyed.

>>13634442
I think Hayden did a good job on everything but the romance parts. He just couldn't do it.

>>13634473
You are defending shit just to make yourself feel better.

>>13634490
Me too, that discredited Plinkett for me.

>>13634492
He couldn't do anything, he was fucking terrible in the movies, not that its his fault, the script was total garbage to begin with

>>13634440
That was an enjoyable video, thank you anon, I will show this to friends to prove how horrible those reviews are.

>>13634499
Nah, he was pretty good at being an angsty young paladin dude.

I hate sand

>>13634507
Angsty? Try whiny.

>>13634440
Awesome vid!

>>13634440
I don't have a YT account and I want to subscribe

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>>13634442
>without going crazy
>without

>>13634440
>Plinkett gets his ass PWND
Thank you anon

I hope you people are being ironic when you're saying you think the prequels were legitimately good all because a internet reviewer who some amount of fame to his name said it sucked.

>>13634511
Being whiny typically comes with being angst ridden.

>>13634540
Nope, we loved the prequels, not get >>>/out/

>>13634546
>now get

>>13634540
Do you think every differing opinion is because of spite? How do you function in conversation?

sweetiepiehev - My skype , im a redhead from the UK looking to get on a chat for a bit!!

>>13634440
Awesome video is awesome.

>>13633124

this really just killed any hype i had for the movie. i already knew that was what was going to happen before seeing this image, but it's kind of fucking lame plot-wise. it worked with obi wan because we knew him for, what, like twenty minutes?

>>13634557
That's why you only watch star wars for the special effects.

Plot is overrated anyway.

>>13634553
Not every opinion, just when its obvious how forced it is, you don't believe a single word out of your mouth you filthy hipster

>>13634557
[spoiler}Ben's death worked because it was a way to get Luke to progress as a character. He fulfilled his purpose as the mentor character and through his death the stakes are raised against our protagonists.

How this will affect our new cast is yet to be seen, but it does seem like this is just kind of hateful.[/spoiler]

>>13633603

I still get a laugh at how they decided to distinguish the interior shots of Soviet submarines from the interior shots of American submarines (which look, you know, normal).

"Okay, they can't look the same or people will get confused."

"How about we make all the walls and panels dark blue? Like their uniforms?"

"BRILLIANT!"

>>13634569
FUCKFUCKFUCK I MESSED UP
>>13634564
You shouldn't tell people how they feel, you hypocrite. He seems pretty genuine, unlike you.

>>13634578
Excuse me? I'm being completely genuine in my dislike of the prequels, I have had these views since I watched them, and I rewatched them just to make sure I still have these beliefs, which I do and the first thing you did was call me a sheep

>>13633124
>I know let's kill the old cast everyone loved!
>that will make everyone like these new insufferable cunts who can't act to save their lives

Wow, bravo. Bravo

>>13634589

What, and Ford could, because he's a 40-year vet almost?

>>13634588
Thank you for proving your hypocrisy.


Also, I'm not the one you were arguing with.

>>13634440
I must applaude

>>13634595
You're the faggots who keep insisting on everyone who dislike the prequels are sheep just because some e-celeb thought the same

>>13634440
>toxic movement of hatred

This guy is high on the list of things that ought to go extinct

>>13634601
They all have the same idiotic points, thus they have no minds of their own, so get lost ya borg.

>>13634601
And you're the one who insists that everyone who likes the prequels must be doing it purely out of spite.


Again, your hypocrisy.

>>13634530
Welp. Poor guy...

>>13634569

i totally get why it's happening, but it just seems cheap. i know ford hated the role, but i figured now at his age, and without the fear that he's been type cast as han, he would ride it until the end. maybe his stipulation for being in the film was that he had to die, just like sam l's was that his death actually 'meant something'.

again, i still haven't seen it, so maybe when watching it it will feel 'right', but that seems unlikely. i did mention it to my friend a few days ago, when the script leaked, and he didn't seem to have a problem with it, so who knows.

>>13634440
Hey, this guy is relatable and I agree with him.

>>13634609
Ever thought for a moment the reason why people say these points are terrible was because they are highly evident flaws?
>>13634612
Fine, maybe not spite, just stupidity and poor taste.

>>13634624
>Ever thought for a moment the reason why people say these points are terrible was because they are highly evident flaws?
And they are almost always wrong.
>Fine, maybe not spite, just stupidity and poor taste.
Aren't you high and mighty?

>>13634624
So you just assume that people who like a movie are stupid? Jesus Christ, do you even have friends? Do people like to be around you?

>>13634628
You actually like that romance subplot?

>>13634632
better than the one in TESB

>>13634631
When I see people play with shit, I'm going to think poorly of them

>>13634440
This just sounds like a desperate fan who likes this movie, trying to make excuses why the movie is good.

its oke anon. you're allowed to like shit movies

>>13634635
Han and Leia's felt more natural despite the lack of screen time and didn't waste the viewer's time, unlike Anakin and Padme's

>>13634641
Except the movie is not shit, Channel Autist fan

>>13634632
One subplot =/= the entire movie.


Newsflash: the HanXLeia subplot wasn't well written and came out of nowhere as well.

>B-but Han asked what it would be like if he hooked up with Leia in ANH!!

He was mostly being facetious to get on Luke's nerves.

>They explain it to us in Empire!

I bet you whine about Anakin dreaming about the pretty girl he met when he was younger- which is a natural thing for a growing man to go through, especially someone in his position.

The Han and Leia romance's only saving grace is the dialogue, and that's mostly because Harrison Ford is a master of making dialogue work.

>>13634644
>Han and Leia's felt more natural despite the lack of screen time
No it really wasn't AND you explained why it was not.
>unlike Anakin and Padme's
I believed it, checkmate.

>>13634647
All of the plot was terrible, SW was never a bastion a strong story telling but at least it didn't fucking leave the viewer bored, which is what the prequel trilogy did.

>>13634660
So ADD? Good to know

>>13634660
I was never once bored during the prequels, probably because I could follow what was going on.

>>13634663
Yes because the space politics scenes were so good

>>13634666
I thought they were fine

>>13634664
And I could follow it too, didn't make it any good
>>13634669
You also think the prequel films are worth defending and rejecting other peoples' dislike for it as sheep mentality

>>13634618
Again, it seems like he's getting Dench'd. Too old to be a permanent fixture, might as well exit the stage in a way that affects the narrative.

Shit I totally forgot Spectre is out too.

>>13634666
Yes, actually. It gives us an insight into how the society of Star Wars work, something we only saw a small portion of in the original trilogy. Like someone said earlier, the prequels did a much better job of world building than the original trilogy did.

>>13634673
Apparently you couldn't follow it.

>>13634679
You can sure how society works in a fictitious setting poorly, you should praise it when someone does something well, not at all

>>13634684
I'm currently trying to decipher what exactly your trying to convey, but the prequels SHOULD be praised for their world building.

>>13634688
No, they shouldn't, because they did it POORLY

>>13634692
Is that what you were trying to say? Oh.

Well, you're wrong, especially if you compare the to the original trilogy.

>>13634683
Smarmy little brat, isn't it past your bed time? I said I could follow the film but just because I could follow it doesn't mean I should think it good, it just means it managed to succeed an extremely basic rule, am I suppose to give out lavish praises for minor acts of competence?

>>13634703
>well, you're wrong
Thrilling counter argument. You go to Yale to learn those kinds of skills?

>>13634705
No, you're just supposed to pay attention to the movies, which you apparently couldn't do.

>>13634708
Did you go to Harvard to learn how to construct a sentence? :^)

>>13634711
Are you just going to repeat that I didn't til it magically comes true?

>>13634713
Do you just exist to be contrarian? If this is all kind of sick joke I do not find it funny.

>>13634714
It's already true though? You're going in circles here/ You've never actually told us why they're bad, while people here have explained to you why they like the prequels.

itt: good friends

>>13634722
lol you made a terrible comeback to try and say that I had a terrible comeback, then go back to your "contrarian" argument to try and make a "point."

This is laughable. You have no clue how to form a cohesive argument.

WHO DA MAN
YODA MAN

>>13634724
>>13634732
Yes I have, but fine I'll repeat myself again for your benefit,
I do not like it because the dialogue is terrible, most of the cast's acting leaves much to be desired despite them being at least moderately competent at acting, and thinks it can make it all better with battles that somehow have less drama than its predecessor despite having full armies bashing each other to oblivion and the lightsaber scenes are not nearly as impressive as you think they are, you're easily impressed with pointless flash and wild wavey light rave

>>13634569
>Ben's death worked
Come on, that was a totally ridiculous plot point. What was the point of it besides forcing character development?

>>13634647
>the HanXLeia subplot wasn't well written and came out of nowhere
Boy was it ever. It was purely there to fill the role of obligatory "man + woman = romance", and up to that point Luke was the one who going down that road until that got sidetracked by the silly sister plot.

>>13633744
>>13633199
>>13633475
>>13633744
>>13634276


ITT: Faggots upset that they're bland, commercialized movie for children was ruined for them.

The prequels have horrible dialogue which couldn't be saved by the actors trying their hardest, except for Portman who could have been played by a robot and things wouldn't change that much.
The prequels also have pretty awful scene composition in many places, and their overreliance on 2003-tier CGI makes them look like the "Empire of the Ants" only 10 years later.

The characters act so retarded until Palpatine' coup that many fans have a theory that Palpatine could cloud people' minds because there's no way no one wouldn't notice his schemes, and did I already tell you of how Palpatine could take power because Jar-Jar-Binks, a joke character no one liked voted for giving him supreme powers?
I bet this was a very cunning critique of the Democratic system on Lucas' part.

And worst of all, Anakin.
We were supposed to see the rise and fall of this incredible badass that owned all his scenes in the originals and spawned countless imitations, and we're treated to a whiny kid that cries 80% the time he spends on film, and that's when he's not a 9 year old kid shouting about spinning and good tricks.
>"b-b-but the cartoons!"

Yeah too bad we're talking about the movies here, and even then the cartoons are ugly CGI shit that looks worse than fucking IGLOO, except for the Tartakovsky cartoon which was nice I guess.

People who prefer the prequels are obviously contrarians who watched them once 10 years ago or trolls, or there people on /m/ that probably prefer Gundam SEED Destiny to 0079, because that's what we're talking about here.

>>13634742
I'm "easily impressed by pointless flash" yet I can also understand the story and characters, something that seemingly flew over your head
based on your poor arguments.

It's mainly just the romance parts that are terribly written. Obi-Wan is written totally in characters and McGregor gives a fantastic and memorable performance. Young Anakin acts just like a ten year old would. The script also fleshes out Yoda, letting Frank Oz use his classic charm mixed with a new side of Yoda we never saw.

The battles are pretty exciting, truth be told. The space battle in TPM is suspenseful and and thrilling. The lightsaber duels have amazing choreography and you can see a lot of talent put into them. The dogfight between Obi-Wan and the Fetts, while short, is also packed with thrills. then there's the entire first fourth of Revenge of the Sith.

You're just going to go back and call me a "contrarian" so I'm done justifying my fondness for a trilogy of movies. I hope you can find it in your heart to not get paranoid about small things like this.

>>13633124
Fuck, this is what I get for disabling spoilers.

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>There are people over the age of 15 who actually care about having a movie "spoiled" for them.

>>13634805
Because peopel typically like to go into thing, be it a movie, or novel, or video game, without the knowledge of what's going to happen.
The Empire Strikes Back wouldn't be as memorable as it is if people just KNEW that Vader was Luke's dad.

>>13634805

We're not looking at Ivan Groznyi or Citizen Kane here, it's a cheap space fantasy movie, the plot and suspence is 90% of it.
And even then, twists in movies have always been used to great effect and they also work in more "adult" movies to convey emotions and messages.

Se7en atmosphery wouldn't work so well if you already knew the twist beforehand, wouldn't it?

>>13634819
It would be memorable because it's a well made movie. Even if you know what happens, the characters don't, and there's a satisfying dramatic payoff. And movie which depends on a twist or a shock to stay memorable is a weak movie anyway.

>>13634833
>Usual Suspects
>Psycho

Maybe if you're a film "critic" with a broom up his ass, but cinematography and direction isn't everything for the movie.
Again, some stories work better with surprises.

>>13634789
They fucked up Anakin so bad. Instead of a good man being seduced by the dark side, he's a bad egg whiny teenager who literally gets tricked into turning evil.

>>13634833
The Empire Strikes Back is my favorite movie of all time, but it would not be anywhere as memorable had the twist been spoiled beforehand.

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>>13634440
>213 posts 59 ips

>>13634789
ill say the best part of the prequels for my were mcgreggor. anikin is one of the worst written and acted people i've seen personally. the fights were okay but not my favorite ever.

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>>13634819
>if people just KNEW that Vader was Luke's dad.
SPOILER: "Darth Vader" literally means "Dark Father"

>>13635279
I know that.

It's hilarious, considering Lucas didn't have the idea for Vader being related to Luke until Empire.

Shit that just came out of nowhere, and disappeared into hyperspace, in the movie

-Desert world, death star, MF swallowed in a hangar bay, Han Solo didn't shot first, Death Star, disturbance in the force, prison break, trench run, death of mentor = yup, list of stuff to match A New Hope, check.

- Somehow, Han and Chewie were smuggling in the same region as the MF when it was floating powerless in space, in time to pick it up.

- The New Death Star was built without ANYONE in the republic and resistance EVER finding out UNTIL one misprogrammed SPARTAN reject told them. And NO ONE blinked an eye, they just went straight to 'lets blow it up' and 'there's always a weakness'... yeah, there's one in this plot...

- There are GURLS in the IMPERIAL First Order now... how the hell did that happen!? Palpy and Vader's spinning in their graves.

- Han borrows Chewie's bowcaster, apparently for the first time... in a partnership of HOW FUCKING LONG? Also, bowcasters are supposed to shoot explosive quarrels, not lasers? And they were green, not red?

- Han dies, and Chewie is like...meh... doesn't he have a LIFE DEBT to the guy? Other than one roar and gut shot, Chewie just shrugged and teamed up with another little girl!!?

- Also, the first person Leia walks up to when the survivors return, is not the partner her husband had for majority of his life, but some little girl she barely knew...

- And apparently the little girl, Rey, took Han to be her father figure in like the dozen conversations they had. And somehow this was only conveyed in a single line after his death... just to build up to the 'oh my uncle Ben got offed by the dark lord, he was like a father to me' trope.

>>13635344
- The New Death Star. Apparently, it has an atmosphere... even when a pillar of star energy is ripping through it's OXYGEN filled atmosphere into space, it doesn't SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST... at most a few trees gets blown down...

- And hyperspace beam of destruction? Ok fine, but you want to say that a planet getting destroyed can be seen in real time from another system? WTF!? LIGHT doesn't travel that fast from planet to planet!! The people on the planet should have only seen the red light DECADES from the attack...

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>>13633124
I might actually be a little mad if I still liked Star Wars.

>>13635344
>>13635349
I suppose my apathy is warranted. Friday will be fun.

>>13635344
>>13635349
I sense a great disturbance in the force. As if a great many people across the world had gasped with disappointment.

>>13635349
Abrams did the same shit in Star Trek. When is he going to learn how light works?

Oh god, it was awful in so many ways.

Good thing I already set up my mind that I was going to watch another blockbuster action oriented movie.

Hell, now I need to consider the prequel as decent with this new scale for shitty Star Wars things. Even the 3D cartoon was better, and it means A LOT.

Actual movie spoiler ahead :
Good thing they killed Han, at least he will not have to participate further more. Now I just hope Chewie, Leia and Luke will die in the second episode, so the third can be totally forgettable for the fans

>>13635452
Sonic depth charges.

>>13635459
THAT'S FINE I'M JUST HERE FOR ILM ANYWAY.

It's like you people haven't learned how this shit works. Always watch for the effects and nothing else.

>>13635482
Except, if you are at least 12 years old, you can tell that the effects are ridiculously wrong...

>>13635488
I didn't know realistic depictions of relativity were so important in Star Wars.

>>13635505
'This deal just keeps getting worse.'

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>>13635533
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE
reminder that robot chicken will make one of these for the new movie.

>>13635482
I do since episode 1, but... I don't know. With Lucas out of the way, I was kind of hoping JJ could do something with it, bring back the good old days while refreshing it a little for the new audience, with an actual good original story and all. He did a decent job of reviving Star Trek ( Even if it's far from perfect ), Super 8 had really good ideas, and Armageddon actually have one of the best writting for a disaster thriller. I overall liked most of the things he had worked on, so I was hoping ( He couldn't be more bad than Lucas got with the prequel, right ? )

Instead, he served us a fucking rerun of all kind of things we already saw in another episode. I could have passed over any other default it had ( And there is a lot of them ) if it was actually a good, even decent story. But it's not.

Sure, it's pretty well realized, it have a bunch of good ideas, but for one good idea, there is several bad ones. Either he clearly didn't have enough experience to get something as big as Star Wars, or Disney restrained him.

I don't care which one it is, but this one episode is garbage, and saving the trilogy will need them a hell lot of work.

But who cares ? It was already making profit before anyone could see it. Let them do it the Michael Bay way, why bother losing time on things like scenarios, when a bunch of CGI effects assure you to be profitable.

Fuck these generations of faggots.

>>13635533
But seriously.

Who watches Star Wars for the compelling and well thought out scientifically accurate details, especially regarding planetkiller-class weapons installations?

Is it the same group who argue whether or not the destruction of the second death star counts as a war crime considering what must be countless of innocent laborers working to complete the rest of the station structure?

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>>13632745
Quad-wing standing by.

>>13634786
What faggots, it's a good thing we don't talk about marketable children's entertainment on this board.

>>13633124

Well I knew it was going to be bad.
Thank you annon, you just saved me some money and time in my life.

I will await for a REAL Star Wars sequel that will never happen, and deny these movies exist.
Thanks again.

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Colony drop standing by
the target is Disneyland.

>>13633124
>spoilers without context

>>13635715
>Spoiler
>In a Star Wars thread
>On December 2015
Gee I wonder what's that spoiler all about

>>13635721
Making sure that people are as salty as possible while reliving the highs of Snape kills Dumbledore?

>>13635731
That Snape kills Dumbledore shit wasn't as terrible as this. Despite the spoiler the story leading to that scene and after that was at least good. Also book > film

This one the film is a disappointment for TRVE FANSspoilers or not.

>>13635748
Don't care, here for the ILM.

You can't lose with my mentality.

The movie wasn't bad. I want a TIE Fighter now.

>>13635433
Nah ,the casuals are eating it up. Either that or people are trying to delude themselves into thinking that Star Wars is saved after the prequels.

>>13635761
WTF is ILM?

>>13635804
Lucas' sfx company I presume

>>13635715
Quattro is Char

>>13635804
Industrial Light and Magic, fool, how are you in Star Wars and haven't heard of them?

Though if it's J.J. Abrams it also means Bad Robot.

Saw it, had fun. Plot was a bit disjointed, but the cast did an excellent job. Rey is best girl.

So it sucks?

Godamn it I was hoping it might actually be good.

Well that's it then. Everything from my childhood has now been ruined. I might as well just blow up the planet now.

>>13635804
you're no Star Wars fan if you don't know of Industrial Light and Magic.

They are -the- special effects group.

>>13635845

Well, them and WETA.

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Hmm, it seems like Poe held out longer in torture than Wedge, if you read the pre-novel. The book made Wedge sound like an absolute pussy.
Where's the fucking interrogator droid though? Another piece of lore sweep away.

>>13635839

No, it's actually really good. Not the best film ever and it retreads a lot of ANH and a bit of ROTJ but it does it well and the characters are solid.

Also fucking amazing practical effects, along with some sweet dogfighting.

Go see it, you'll enjoy it.

>>13636024
>sweet dogfighting

Is it still ww2 inspired or does any aspect of jet combat shine through?

>>13636024
>characters are solid
I can forgive everything but this. Outside of Finn and Rey, the development of every other character and their interactions with the main cast are more or less shoe horned in.

>>13635482
If you have to devolve your mindset to "I just want to see pretty lights and effects" to enjoy a movie, some thing's gone wrong somewhere. I don't know if it's you, the movie, or something else, but some thing's gone wrong.

>>13636033
Star Wars is literally the franchise to apply that mindset.

Unless you're a plotfag who actually enjoyed ESB.

But seriously watching ILM one up itself with each film is more engaging than the narrative. I have the novelizations if I really care to follow the story for the story's sake.

I really liked how the lightsaber fights felt that they had some actual weight behind them.

>>13636043
This. The fight choreography felt like it was telling a story, not just a string of cool spots (which the prequels tended to do).

>>13636043
>>13636102
I don't know, it felt more like actual sword bashing than g_realisticsabercombat_1. Saber combat is meant to be a stylish, gentle form of combat, from an previous era, after all. The OT certainly had more drama to them than this movie.

And there's a whole lack of force moves in the battles. Even Rebels had more force techniques than just force push or pull. We only ever see that first use of the force to stop a blaster bolt in mid air in the first 10 mins, and then it never appears again, and happens to be the only unique use of the force in this movie.

>>13636143
In addition, I noticed an extremely worrying lack of space scenes and battles in the movie. Most star-craft battles occur in aerial combat. This is like the Battlefield or COD of Starwars now...

>>13636143
>the only unique use of the force in this movie.
Eh, Vader blocked blaster bolts with the Force in Empire. Not unique.

>>13634742
>less drama than its predecessor despite having full armies bashing each other to oblivion

Fucking this. Holy shit, why would you make it clones vs droids. You literally went out of your way to ensure that battles have no tension because we don't know the people in them.

Contrast this with 0079. We clearly know what Zeon and Gihrens goal is. Conquer Earth and implement a facist society. I have no clue what the fuck the Sepratists goal was. To seperate? What happens if they win? Why should I care about these identical clones? In 0079, we're constantly reminded that lives are at stake. Dying soldiers shout out their wives names. Soldiers have individual names, and go out of their way to protect each other. In the prequels we have...nothing.

>>13636143
>combat
>ever stylish or gentle

>>13635344
>- There are GURLS in the IMPERIAL First Order now... how the hell did that happen!? Palpy and Vader's spinning in their graves.

You know, I get that casual sexism is really funny, but this was a thing before VII. Rampant in the former EU, even.

>>13636043
>those trees getting cut down in the forest duel
They know what my boner likes.

>>13635349
>bitching about physics in fiction

>>13633124
Just saw it. It's one of the better scenes in the movie, in my opinion. Plus I believe there was a hint of mutual UNDERSTANDING that it had to happen.

>>13635344
>And they were green, not red?
You've been playing too much Jedi Knight. They were red in ROTJ.

>>13635344
>but some little girl she barely knew...
It was strongly hinted that they knew who she was, even though she herself didn't.

>>13636143
The fighting reminds of how Luke wailed on Vader in ROTJ - that's probably how Kylo got trained. Finn and Rey are complete amateurs, so it makes sense that they're a bit more rough.

>>13636143
Relative lack of force power use in the final fight is probably down to Kylo not being chill enough to let the force flow. When he has things under control, he can use a load of force powers but he collapses whenever he's unsettled. Contrast this with Rey, who figures out that she has to be all zen to make things work. At least in this movie, force powers seem to be treated like the God Gundam's hyper mode.

>>13634789
>ugly CGI shit that looks worse than fucking IGLOO
But that's 90% of all animation.

>>13636143
>Saber combat is meant to be a stylish, gentle form of combat, from an previous era, after all
>previous era

Exactly. Rey is a character from a junkyard planet who knows how to fight with a staff. Kylo is a former apprentice of Luke who never had a chance to receive proper training with lightsaber himself. One can guess that their styles would be very different from Jedi of old Republic who practically danced with their swords.

>>13636427
You want to tell me then how Rey knew she was Leia, when that was the first time they saw each other? She didn't know Han on first sight either. And that still doesn't explain ignoring Chewie, or Chewie ignoring her. Their partner just got kilted.

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Where the fuck were those things?
I don't remember seeing them in a single scene.

>>13636629
Doesn't understand the mass marketing appeal. Just slap a Star Wars label on something and any drooling nerd will buy it.

>>13636598
Well she mentions early on that Luke, Han, Leia, etc. are considered myths by the galaxy at large. So after meeting Han, she probably put two and two together.

>>13636680
>Luke, Han, Leia, etc. are considered myths by the galaxy at large

What is the justification for this non-sense?

>>13636729
All the budget in that galaxy went into planet-destroying super weapons and FTL-travel instead of proper information distribution networks and history recordings.

>>13636629

They show up in the background when Finn and Rey arrive at the top of the bunker. Must be something that was deleted from the film.

>>13634789
>People who prefer the prequels are obviously contrarians who watched them once 10 years ago or trolls, or there people on /m/ that probably prefer Gundam SEED Destiny to 0079, because that's what we're talking about here.
Or we have better minds than you because we know what qualifies as good.

>>13633124
I really liked Kylo Ren as a character. He felt like a pretty great portrayal of a Dark Side Force-sensitive. He has anger issues, he's mentally unstable, he's deeply insecure, he's conflicted and second-guessing himself, he actually shows fear and uncertainty, he's not an overpowered Mary Sue, he's shown to lack training and is nowhere near mastering the Force. He's probably the most "realistic" portrayal of what I imagine a real Dark Side Force-sensitive would be. So having him kill his father to try to prove something to himself actually makes a lot of sense for that character so I don't really mind Han's death. I just wish they didn't show his death face, that felt a bit undignifying.

>>13637069
Except the whole thing of him falling for the Dark Side is pretty dumb in the first place, considering who his parents are. He have literally no reason to fall for it. The character itself is pretty much ok, but the foundations of his story are not. They forced this way too much on the Han/Leia story, just to have them in a primary role for the fans. It would have been way better with a new family.

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>>13637086
>literally no reason to fall for it

>>13637086
surely being the son of a legendary hero puts a lot of stress and pressure on you to be just like them? What I'm hearing makes Kylo out to be like someone who is stuck in a state of extended teenage rebellion.

>>13636999
>we know what qualifies as good

Wooden, stilted performances? (Of which one actor has blamed this on ruining his career and another came VERY close to having it ruin hers)
Clunky dialogue riddled with statements of the obvious and redundant lines?
CGI that now looks painfully dated?
Plot developments that seem to happen for little more reason than 'Well, fans know this place!'?

This is the thing people seem to keep forgetting in their defenses. The big problem with the prequels isn't 'NOT MUH STAR WARS'
It's that, even divorced from the brand, they are badly made movies. Not the worst ever, but at best, you're looking at a 2 out of 4 star movie on a good day.

>>13637086
We still don't really know what caused him to fall to the Dark Side, do we? We've been told that his relationship with his parents was strained and that Leia tried to help him by sending him to train under Luke, and we've been told that this Snoke dude seduced him to the Dark Side. The only other motivation of his that we know of is that he greatly admires his grandfather and wants to surpass him. The movie ends with him going to finish his training under Snoke and Rey going to train under Luke so I assume the next movie is going to be a lot more Force-focused and will show us the differences in their training and philosophy and we'll probably find out more about his backstory and the circumstances of his fall to the Dark Side. And if not in the movie, I'm sure they're already hiring hack writers to write backstory novels for every single new character.

>>13637162
The book that will most likely deal with this is New Republic: Bloodlines and will be written by Claudia Gray. Her Lost Stars book is really good.

>>13637162
>strained relationship

That's all you need.
That's seriously all you need.

The dark side is rooted in emotional turbulence like that.

>>13637116
>Wooden, stilted performances? (Of which one actor has blamed this on ruining his career and another came VERY close to having it ruin hers)
>Clunky dialogue riddled with statements of the obvious and redundant lines?
>CGI that now looks painfully dated?
>Plot developments that seem to happen for little more reason than 'Well, fans know this place!'?
And none of that was present, but please crybaby do continue.

>>13637116
All better than anything IBO is giving us. Pic related.

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>>13637251
>forgetting to post it
Well that is a first.

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>>13636743
that makes too much sense

>>13636024
>Also fucking amazing practical effects
some of us prefer CGI thank you very much

>>13637251
>>13637255
You should forget to post it more often. Why are you even trying to push this?

>>13637383
Memes and shitposting are the only things this place is any good for.

>>13637383
I'm miserable and alone

>>13637398
any particular reason?

>>13637409
many, none worth sharing here

>>13637227
>none of that was present

Oh wait. Now I get it.
You're just cruise-control trolling now.

If not though, feel free to try and expand on this. I'd be very curious to hear how something like the "I don't like sand" scene is good dialogue, or how Oscar-nominee Liam Neeson wasn't running on auto-pilot in TPM.

Hell, even if this is a troll, try it. At least be an entertaining troll.

>>13637383
G-Reco shit-posting is slowly losing its 'en vogue' status and going the way of Valrager.

Gotta get that next hate train rolling now.

>>13637425
>THEY LIKE SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE SO THEY MUST BE TROLLING I'M SO ANGRY AAAAARGH

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>>13637425
You're a grump, have a Beargguy

>>13637454
Wow. You sure showed me.
Just like that other guy with his devastating 'No it's not' counterattack.

Truly, you are a deft hand at this, sir.

>>13637422
so an emo?

>>13637456
>Did someone say beargguy?
>No.
>Well if you want Beargguy have some Beargguy!
>No one asked for Beargguy.
>EVERYONE WANTS BEARGGUY! YOU WANT THE BEARGGUY! I WANT TO FUCK THE BEARGGUY! EVERY THREAD NEEDS TO BE SPAMMED WITH BEARGGUY!

>>13637457
>I'M SO ANGRY YOU'RE SO DUMB AAAAARGH

>>13637475
>GUYS MY MOUTH IS TALKING WITH DIALOGUE LOOK AT ME RAAAAAAGE!

>>13637476
You can greentext all you want, it still hasn't proven the argument.

Seriously. Give me a reasonable argument why the prequels are legitimately good movies.

I've given arguments as to why they're not seen as such. Now it's only fair you pony up.

That's all I want. No greentext. No 'NO U'. No 'You're wrong' without an explanation as to why I'm wrong.

Let us be /m/en about this, not Kira Yamatos.

Or...you can continue to act like this and fail to convince me this hasn't be an exercise in trolling.

The choice is yours, but if you're not actually going to try, I can't promise I'll indulge you much further.

>>13637496
>Let us be /m/en about this, not Kira Yamatos.
In other words
>lets not be perfect
Bad logic there

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>>13633603
>Red October, Shtanding by.

way to fuck it up with the wrong picture.

>>13635344
>here are GURLS in the IMPERIAL First Order now... how the hell did that happen!? Palpy and Vader's spinning in their graves
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there always girls in the Empire's military? The Empire is racist against alien but that's about it.

Didn't they mention that the crazy moff lady was left out of important position not because she's female but because she's batshit insane and keep losing most of her soldiers?

>>13637227

>none of that was present

You fucking what, son?

Are you taking Christensen's sand monologue as something great, for example?

>>13637496
Plenty of people have given you examples of why they like the prequels. I'm not going to repeat what they said just because you didn't bother to read the thread.

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>>13632752
LOCK S-FOILS IN ATTACK POSITION

>>13633569
>>13637947
GO FUNNELS!

Hello. Spoiler poster here. Never have I gotten so many (You)s in my whole time spent in 4chan. I'm literally crying right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBrDAsKBZBY
Standing by.

>>13637623
No, the stormtroopers only ever accepted men in it's rank and file. Women only ever served as officers or in administrative posts if they distinguished themselves.