/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #784

First for the GC translation team are all MASSIVE NERDS.

>>13585758
Yes. And?

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>>13585758
This entire site is filled with massive nerds. Post more robots.

xth for dead series

>>13585786
There's nothing wrong with that, anon.

I'm a NEET who spends their day playing mech related video games, and watches mech related shows.

And I love it.

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>>13585786
>Post more robots.

With pleasure, co/m/rade.

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I just don't.

>>13585944
Good job.

>>13585944
Your rolls are weighted by gravity!

>>13585786
more robots.

how is it that GC and AP teams are already miles ahead in progress over @

did gideon just drop the project but is afraid to announce it publicly?

>>13586289
Gideon is too busy spreading his minuscule team across 30 games of which only 1 was ever played by anyone at all.

>>13586289
Cause GC and AP teams are faggots.

>>13585944
Great galloping shitfuck! Char's in his own drop list. I wonder how many Chars there are. We've seen SSR Sazabi and UC Hyaku Shiki.

>>13586370
There's all the Mus, and there'll probably be a Rau event some time.

>>13586419
I'm talking about Chars in Char's drop list, and I'm referring only to the man himself. Unless one of you got a Mu from him.

Considering we have all the other Zaft Gundams as player units (but only as fucking SRs because fuck C/UC/R units), yeah, it's only a matter of time before Legend.

>>13586289
Gideon splits his time over God knows how many projects, and he keeps everything under wraps until he releases it. We're split up over less projects (GC and probably some personal ones), and we release everything publicly.

>>13586544
I'm rooting for you, man. I know you can do it. Also, I'm glad you changed your leader to the SSR Gunbuster. I might switch to SSR Taubern at some point (from SR Virtue).

>>13586370
I managed to get get a SR Sazabi to drop
I wonder why there are 2 SSR Sazabis in this event though

>>13586632
There's a regular and "Strong" one. One of the event's missions is to fully limit break the SSR Sazabi, and the reward is an SSR Sazabi with I assume better stats.

I've yet to get an R from the Sazabi fight. Just UC shit.

>>13586639
I meant why did they decide to add a different SSR Sazabi to this event instead of for a Gacha or something. The strong Sazabi has a mega particle cannon finisher in addition to better stats

>>13584990
>Hayami Show

I am so tempted to play V-II in Japanese just for this

>>13586289
Considering no "official" information has been released about @ in forever (outside of random anons who may or may not actually be involved with the project), it's impossible to say whether GC and AP is "ahead" of anything. Both are very early as far as script translation goes, and probably won't see release for a long, long time.

>>13586581
Yeah, it was funny when the mod let me kick ass with the Boss Borot, it's pointless when the mod's been nerfed.I figured I may as well give everyone a nice unit to play with instead.

Which OG's dick would you deepthroat?

>>13586933
Ryoto

>>13586933
Trombe

>>13586936
Geassfag detected

>>13586936
Oh wow a Strawpoll, it's not like those are easy to rig via use of proxies.

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>>13586933
once he finally appears again

>>13585148
>autism and butthurt
Sounds like Getterfags in a nutshell to me. At least we have solid, irrefutable proof of it now.
>>13586943
>>13586953
You keep on digging that hole Getterfag.

>>13586955
What do you do when he suddenly yells "AIN SOPH AUR" during it?

>>13586957
Where did Getter touch you, anon?

>>13586933
Rosaly's.

...you never said it had to buy a guy.

>>13586960
enjoy sweet non-existence

>>13586936

I knew that getterfags were bad news, but not that they were that bad

>>13586933
>No one has said Irm yet
Wow I didn't know I was surrounded by so many homos

>>13586978
At least now you're caught up to speed with everyone else on /m/. Just remember to avoid them and their series at all costs, or else you might become autistic like they are and claim that the poll was rigged or that it's because of their beloved spic boogeyman.

>>13586933
Shu's.

>>13586933
Fighter Roar's.
Wait is he even legal? Does he have an age or sex or anything at all? Or is he just Fighter Roar?

>>13586984
His cock is great, undoubtedly, but why would I want his cock when I could have that fucking mullet all in my mouth instead?

>>13586936
>>13586943
>>13586953
>>13586957
>>13586978
>>13587023
So in the context of /m/ what does it mean being an "X"fag?
Like you watch only one series?
This is an honest question, I'm here since 2010 and I never understood the use of the "X"fag term in our board.

>>13587059
It means you browse /x/ silly.

>>13587059
Just ignore the shitposter.

>>13587042
Does he even have a mouth?

>>13587059
I think it's just Anons being Anons.
>>13587070
I don't know shit about Fighter Roar, man. Fighter Roar is some weird shit.

>>13586936
Wow, such a spontaneous movement of the majority that doesn't sound at all like it's just the same guy repeating the same shit over and over again.

>>13587059
That you're a fan of the series. Fan is interchangeable with fag here in this case, dumbass.
>>13587067
How about instead of claiming he's a shitposter, you actually try to denounce what he's saying with a sound, logical argument? Oh wait, you can't, because you're a stupid Getterfag that doesn't know how to actually argue and, more importantly, he's certifiably correct.

>>13587053
>His cock is great, undoubtedly
Well there's gotta be some reason Ring puts up with him trying to fuck anything with a vagina as soon as she turns her back.

>>13587059
The -fag suffix denotes a sentient being; however, the context of its fundamental meaning changes depending on the word it modifies, such as an adjective or noun. As an adjective, such as gayfag, -fag denotes that this is a homosexual. As a noun, such as Moviefag, -fag denotes that this is an individual that has some level of interest or passion for movies.

>>13587090
Irm's cock is a sponge that absorbs the pussy juices of the woman he fucks. When it comes time to fuck Ring, Ring's vagina clamps down on Irm's wiener, squeezing out all of the vaginal fluids from the dingdong and converting it into sex appeal.
That's the canon reason as to why Ring's character design changed in OG2nd.

Forgot to ask this particular FMW3 character building question in the last topic -

In 2, I notice a few characters with Range 1 finishers (Meiling, Youmu, maybe others) had quite a bit of a hard time actually getting to a boss to use their final attack because of all the Danmaku Fields.

Does Focus/Unfocused movement (whichever is supposed to be better) help out a lot in that regard? What about in 3? Does the Twin system provide more characters to provide Accel to slow units?

>>13587120
>Does Focus/Unfocused movement (whichever is supposed to be better) help out a lot in that regard? What about in 3?
Unfocused not so much since you have movement parts for those, Focus movement however yes. Especially in Youmu's case who gets another focused movement penalty on her best offensive PS Lotus Stance Cut it helps cancel that out. It helps with Meiling too but in 3 you should never be attacking with Meiling unless absolutely desparate. Her role is in the back as one of the best support defender in the whole game.

>Does the Twin system provide more characters to provide Accel to slow units?
Plenty, off the top of my head I think all the Accel learners in the game are Marisa, Remilia, Chen, Lily White, Youmu, Ran, Wriggle, Mystia, Hina, Aya, Kurumi, Elly, Luna Child and Yukari through her Dream spirit.

There are a few other spirits which affect both units in a twin you should keep an eye out for.

>>13587059

It means having an unhealthy obsession with something. For example Gurrenfags are obnoxious little shits who can't shut up about how Gurren Lagann is le epic ultimate mecha show, and the same thing applies to getterfags and other -fags

>>13587209
>Gurrenfags are obnoxious little shits who can't shut up about how Gurren Lagann is le epic ultimate mecha show
I have yet to seen anything like this.

>>13587209
But what's someone who can't shut up about how bad something is?
We're still the same, Anon! It doesn't matter if they like Getter, Layzner, Gurren Lagann, Gundam, Eva, everyone's just as obnoxious as everyone else!
ONE OF US ONE OF US

I spent way too much time in XCX trying to make Kai before giving up and making Ratsel instead. One face had the perfect hair for Kai but couldn't have a mustache for some reason.

Not gonna post my shitty Ratsel until I can find an appropriate outfit though.

>>13587255
I wish TE were still here.

So, question. There's a big picture on QooApp on X-O with like 25 or so mechs on it (it's white and has Gunbuster, Grendizer, and Getter 1 on the top), and I can't recognize two of them.

Are those ones above Arbalest and Nirvash from Dorvack and Oz The Reflection?

>>13587231
>But what's someone who can't shut up about how bad something is?
An intellectual and a gentleman.

>>13587351
Oh alright.
It's really bad to whine about other people's taste in chinese roberts.
Really really bad.
Really.

Serious talk for once. I was cleaning my ears with a cotton swab and accidentally pushed the ear wax towards my eardrums and now it's clogged and I'm having a hard time hearing with my left ear.

What would Sanger do?

>>13587410
Buy a rubber ear syringe and use it when you get out of the shower.

>>13587410
Cleave the ear wax.

>>13587410
Scream angrily at it.
Also >>13587421

>>13587418
Yeah I guess that's the only correct option. Trying to pull it out with a swab can accidentally damage my eardrums and I don't want that.

>>13587421
>>13587425
Too dangerous, not even Sanger would be that reckless. It's a very sensitive hole.

>>13587445
If there's a hole...

Does any unit have a special bonus in this event?

Does anyone have a preference what support unit I put on Gunbuster? I'm still using team 2 with just C units, so I can put whatever support unit you guys want.

>>13587410
Sanger's no fool, he'd visit a doctor lest the wax interfere with his regularly scheduled screaming practice to make his screams enhance his sword strikes somehow

Alright, so I'm going to be uploading unit videos of Compact in between each checkpoint of Thief Gold, which I'm going to be running blind. It was recommended to me and I have no idea what to expect
And I've decided I'm just going to get the Compacts over with, so Compact 2 is next. How does WS Compact 2 compare to Impact?

My SSR team is underperforming. Does anyone know if the cost hack is also broken in the mod now?

Did you guys beat Shu in SRW3?

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>>13586800
Yeah, I think we don't know how far along alpha is. Also, the fact that they were hit by a translation quality problem seems to have been quite a setback. I can only wish them good team Spirit, strong Will and good Luck!
Attune!

>>13587773
>My SSR team is underperforming.
The game needs an enemy power level nerf.

>>13587669
>How does WS Compact 2 compare to Impact?
It's even uglier, but the upgrade number across all your units is consistent and it runs off the Winkysoft damage formula (+1% base damage per stat point over 100, +1% derived damage per will point over 100). I have no idea what you need to do in Oswan to transfer your data from 2-1 to 2-2 to 2-3.

>>13587928
how does save data work for Wonderswans?

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>>13586933

>>13587955
Now the important question:
MC Axel, Rival Axel, or OG2 Axel?

>>13586933
Futa Leona

>>13587941
In Oswan the save data's a file so maybe you just have to rename it to whatever C2-2 and C2-3 are called?

>>13586933
Kai

>>13587967
I meant for the physical wonderswan.

Is it saved ot the cart or to the system?

I'm not completely familiar with Daitarn, so please bear with me here
ダイターンザンバー (Daitarn... what?)
ダイターン・ハンマー (Daitarn Hammer)
レーザー (Sun Laser)
サン・アタック乱れ撃ち (Sun Attack What the fuck)
サン・アタック (Sun Attack)
>>13587974
The WonderSwan had a built-in memory which players save games without using passwords like other systems of the time.

>>13587960
EXCEED Axel

>>13586933
Crowe

>>13587960
MC Axel, his interaction with the licensed series' character is amusing.

>>13587995
Daitarn Zanber
Sun Attack Spread Shots

>>13587798
Dr. Hell why were you even in this stage. Your fucking ghoul doesn't even have 10,000 HP and C in space!

>>13587995
>The WonderSwan had a built-in memory which players save games without using passwords like other systems of the time.

so in theory for the emulator all he would need is the save data, correct?

Daitarn 3 All Attacks (Compact)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IlwnvPAYUI
>>13588034
Very appreciated, thank you.
>>13588049
In theory, yes. I don't see why it wouldn't work. I mean, they've gotten Emulated GBA data to carry over into Emulated DS Games for bonuses and whatnot, so.

>>13588040
Look, he's trying really hard.

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>>13587928
Yeah my team of all Cs is outdamaging my team of all SSRs. The cost penalty calculation seems to have been moved server-side.

Also, two rolls of the event gassha, and all I got was a steaming pile of fuck this shit.

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>>13588106

I do wonder occasionally if the people who made BX ever thought for a second "You know, maybe instead of giving the guy who's strongest move costs 10 EN the spirit command that makes all EN and Ammo costs 0, we should give it to someone who actually needs it".

Because SERIOUSLY SERIC YOU DON'T NEED THAT.

>>13588106
>>13588113
Gonna need a whole lot more than two rolls. I must have rolled the Suzaku one like a hundred times and it only came up twice.

>People still call Omega Getter Robo, Shin

Retards

>>13588132
I posit the theory that Justice might have been intended to be a Twin spirit at some point.

>>13588163
If it wasn't one in UX, and it wasn't one in BX, then it wasn't intended to be one in BX.

It's not like this is the first time the handheld team has made a baffling spirit choice.

>>13588168
Or SRW in general
Characters get spirits just for flavor all the time whether or no they're useful.

By the way, just checking before I reach that stage: Danube A1's first two mandatory requirements are skipped if you take the B route, yes? Like how Loni or Andrei work.

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>>13587960
MC or EXCEED.

I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place, but it's close enough.

Anyways if anyone is interested, I found a Japanese website with edited G Generation Portable saves.
http://www.geocities.jp/bousure755/

It seems that it had a link to a save editor, but the link seems to be dead.

>>13588185
Yeah, that's how it works. You only have to do the route-specific requirements for Danube if you take that route, otherwise you just have to do the requirements from the stage before.

>>13588296
Good, that's what I did. Saved before 17 just in case though.

There's no changed events to indicate that you got her though, is there? I didn't take this route the first time and thus can't compare it to anything, but it seems to be pretty much the same as in the show despite me letting Kouji kill an entire reinforcement wave worth of mooks and having him immediately fight Lorelai when she showed up.

OH SHIT THEY HYPERIZE THIS EARLY INTO THE GAME.

ERRORS HAVE BEEN MADE.

>>13588317
Trying to remember the successful signs for both routes. Pre-route split you won't see anything, but if you succeed while taking the Lorelei route, the scripted fight will leave her at 1 HP. If you don't take the route, I believe there's dialogue during the reunion intermission that will inform you she's under repair or whatever.

Either way, if you're successful, she'll show up as an event deploy in the next Mazinger Z focused stage. 21, I think, where the Loni alternate requirements begin.

>>13588356
>if you succeed while taking the Lorelei route, the scripted fight will leave her at 1 HP.

Oh, good, it did that.

>>13588185
If the games are based on the anime rather than the manga than why do they use Danube α1 instead of Rhine X1?

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Bad Luck? More like GOOD LUCK

>>13588371
Because it's Shin Mazinger, which had Danube Alpha 1?

The only game with Lorelai in Rhine X1 was fucking 2, and you couldn't save her in that one.

>>13587960
MC.

I want to bare his children.

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Almost as powerful as Mazinger Z?

>>13588429
>Spoiler
That won't be happening if you're only deepthroating his Kirin, if you catch my drift

>>13588526
Boss can be humble when he wants to.

>>13588529
Well, maybe I can get him to release his limiter, and go full Code Kirin on me.

Yay, I got Lorelai!

>0 starting kills

That... that's gonna be a pain to grind up.

>>13588529
Why would he give me a bottle of Kirin?

>>13587641
R Super Gundam, any SR Re-GZ, and SSR Nu and Zeta Gundam should have buffs.

Even my lvl 30 Re-GZ is doing work with the amount of godawful HP bloating this event has. I easily made it to lvl 100 during the lancelot event, but now I'm struggling to finish the stage in time on ~lvl 50.

>>13588429
>>13588529
>>13588534
gay

>>13588703
GAAYEAH

>>13588734
KOREGAY

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Why is Cagalli so cute?

>>13588766
Because she's a cutie, and is also one of the better SEED characters.

... And then they ruined her in Destiny.

>>13588772
But seriously Destiny can't be that bad.

>>13588775
Well, in my opinion, it's not ALL bad.

There are a few good moments, and the unit designs are pretty good.

And honestly, I preferred Kira as the MC over Shinn.

>>13588782
It HAD potential and if they had actually kept the "three-way conflict" somewhat impartial there could have been an interesting take on things.

But well, we know what happened.

>>13588153
When was Shin Getter called Omega Getter? It's always been Shin Getter since Armageddon was dubbed.

>>13588836
>But well, we know what happened.

Indeed, and we still bitch about it to this day.

>>13588846
I think he's clumsily talking about the Getter series that's featured in X-Omega.

>>13588863
That's just Toei Getter, though, there's nothing omega about it except that it's in X-Omega, and I don't think anyone else really talks about it but /srwg/ anyways and we'd lynch the chump that called Toei Getter Shin Getter.

>>13588846
In moon it's always 真ゲッターロボ.

>>13588872
Yea, I mean officially localized.

Why does Don Saucer have so much HP bloat in SRW?
In the anime he died after the second Sun Attack.

>>13588896
That's just it anon, no one normally survives one Sun Attack

>>13588381
Well in 1 too and you can recruit her for your team.

Will we get Kotetsushin Jeeg and Gaiking: Legend of Daiku Maryu in HD games someday?

>>13589181
>Kotetsushin Jeeg
K and L
>Gaiking: Legend of Daiku Maryu
Shin, K and L

Jeez, I just realized FMW3 has exponentially rising PP costs for stat raising - I knew there was a catch to removing them from taking up a skill slot.

These guys are really good at making sure numbers don't get out of control

>>13589241
He said HD

2016 is the 25th anniversary of SRW
Are you ready for new OG anime and OG3 announcement at xmas yet?

>>13589254
Well at least Shin used HD instead of SD graphics.

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>>13589282
please do not get my hopes up anon, i know christmas announcement is going to be a disappointment

>>13588975
No, Rhine has been in a lot of games. Lorelai being the pilot of Rhine was only in 2. But yes, you can obtain it in 1, because 1 works very differently.

>Playing FMW2
>Its the Youmu stage
>Youmu has 3% chance of landing Meditation Slash on Reimu
>She lands it with a critical at that.

Normally i'd be mad but it was pretty absurd.

>>13589300
>Classic trilogy remade for all current-gen systems as a single game

>>13589241
>K and L

Such a cruel fate.

>>13589282
I'm ready for Mist's OG debut.

>>13586933
Lamia's robotic appendage.

>>13589323
Hey come on, it was in L. That was nice.

>>13589241
>Shin, K, and L

Anon...

Gaiking LoDM started in 2005.

Shin came out in 1996.

>>13589364
Alright, only K is a cruel fate.

L was pretty good, I gave it a thumbs up.

>>13587410
He'd expand the Zankantou and finish off the wax with a single slice.

How old was Cattelya Fujiwara compared to the Branstein brothers?

So, UX question.

I know there's a way to get every secret in three runs. What I want to know is - is it possible to do that, assuming you get TAMASHIIIIIIII on your first run?

>>13588846
In the SRW Z2.1 LP on SA the guy doing it translated Shin Getter and Shin Dragon as Omega Getter and Omega Dragon.
https://shininggalaxy.wordpress.com/2013/12/16/omega-getter/

>>13589534
Yea, but that guy's an jerk who didn't just use True or else that doesn't mix languages more than needed.
Also he hasn't got any official say in things.

>>13589534
>LP on SA
Fucking SA.

>>13589505
Doesn't UX have a flowchart with secrets on Akurasu yet?

>>13589534
I see nothing wrong with this.

>>13589505
Be prepared to do kill grinding

>>13589563
It does, but it's slightly confusing.

After a quick look though, I'm pretty sure the answer is no, Brera would have to be the third run but since you're not getting Karen/Yllbora on the first run it also has to be and they're mutually exclusive.


...So, what the hell is the intended order here? Therion and his route's secrets on the first run?

>>13589591
Brera is by himself since you need to take Europe route to get him. Basically you need to pick one route and get everyone on that route, then on your second run get everyone else since route flags carry over.

>>13589505
IIRC it's possible to do it in 3 runs with EXCEPTION of Brera, he tends to be exclusive from almost every other secret. Which is shit because he's not very good in UX compared to L.

>>13589621
Yeah, I was just wondering if you could start with Ryofu and then get everything in 3. Seems you can't, though. It's a shame, I was sort of hoping my first run would be JUSTICE FIGHT all the way but it seems that'll have to wait until the second.

>>13589631
I seem to remember the path being:

Run 1: Therion, WOW I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY AS, Fafners, and one or two others.
Run 2: Everything else not named Brera
Run 3: Brera

>Which is shit because he's not very good in UX compared to L.

He's pretty rock solid in BX, fortunately, and he comes at a decent time.

Is there a way to dl the umasugi wave radio shows

>>13589643
>and he comes at a decent time
Well not here. He comes on the Wings of Goodbye finale, and that's stage... 50, I think.

How does the spirit system in the bootleg work?

>>13589254
>I just realized FMW3 has exponentially rising PP costs for stat raising - I knew there was a catch to removing them from taking up a skill slot.
FMW2's costs spiked rather heavily if you tried to raise stats more than a few points, too.

>>13589702
it looks like it's some buffs but it's poorly explained

>>13589702
You spend coins to get the spirits. You then set them on the unit and start feeding them other spirits. You can only have one type of spirit equipped.

>>13589729
Wait, how do you equip them?

>>13589738
you need to go to the MS stats and click the arrow going right

you need to be at a high level before the spirit system unlocks (like level 30)

>>13589738
Go to your Team (the battleship), while on the MS Stats page click on the button on the right.

So do you think Maya's stats are going to reflect the fact that she pretty much IS a Super Coordinator next time Fafner shows up in SRW?

>>13589753
Are they Coordinators now?

>>13589757
The Fafner kids were always designer babies.

It's just become very evident as of Exodus that Maya's papa was pretty good at genetic engineering and that Maya's piloting skills really are a cut above everyone else.

She was able to take out 3 highly skilled enemy pilots, using a mech that had likely not received proper maintenance in ages using only cables, a pistol and a knife while her opponents were in Specialty Custom Fafners with good maintenance and all properly armed, while she was also not wearing the pilot suits designed to improve your compatibility with your machine while they were.

She comes late in the original series and got foisted into the dedicated Sniping position do to aptitude and her newness to piloting, but by HaE and Exodus she's pretty much able to function as a highly mobile, high speed sniper without losing any accuracy.

>>13589643
The Dunbine secrets are compatible with Therion and the Fafners. I don't remember if you can get both them and Will on your first run, though.

Anybody know if the remaining Record of ATX: The Inspector volumes/chapters are being translated?

I have a kanji dictionary and I've been trying to read the Japanese version with my basic Japanese skills, but it took me an hour to read one page and that's just tedious... XD

>>13589753
Even back in K and UX, she had protagonist-tier stats. In fact, I think hers were slightly higher than Kazuki's overall.

>>13589794
Damn, gotta love that attention to detail.
Since Maya is a better pilot than him.

>>13589788
Will is incompatible with Therion on a first run

>>13589753
Exodus should be pretty great in terms of playable units when it gets in

SRW When:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wkuoPRFo_8

>>13589794
Makes sense that she joins late then.

>>13589788
They're not, you're right, Will requires an off route one time in the middle of the game. (LITERALLY ONE OFF ROUTE, it's the same as Therion the whole rest of the game. The designers must have been laughing their goddamn asses off)

So I think it must go:

Run 1: Therion, Sakomizu, Burn, NC Bilbine, Shouko Hazama, Michio, Mamoru, Kurusu, and Lux
Run 2: Karen, Will, Ryofu/Chousen, Ishigami, Graham, Patrick/Andrei, Yllbora, Romina Changing Clothes
Run 3: Brera.


...So it's all series I haven't seen yet that are going to be on the first route. GREAT. Best get onto downloading Linebarrels then, there wouldn't happen to be a batch torrent of at least the things up until UX's release would there?

>>13589810
It's funny. We thought we were DROWNING in Fafners in UX.

But now we've got Sein, Nicht, Drei, Vier, Fumf (x2), Sechs, Sieben, Acht, Neun, Zehn, Elf, Zwolf, Dreizehn, Zero, and all those NUN variants.

And most of them all have gimmicks now like the Sein did to make them unique.

God help us, let Exodus be in a game with a proper squad system.

>>13589822
Then the Einherjar upgrades and maybe Raison as a secret?

>>13589822
>squad system.
Why do /srwg/ want these so badly?

>>13589862
Personally I'm fine with UX/BX's Twin System since it doesn't reduce the partner to using one attack

>>13589862
If you're going to have 15+ units from one series, a squad system is something that would be a REALLY GOOD THING TO HAVE.

>>13589818
You actually need 4 runs since Yilbora's flag is glitched

>>13589818
>Yllbora
I've heard that he's bugged, and his "take CB route in the first split" requirement doesn't carry over properly. If that's true, you're screwed on getting him alongside the rest of the second run secrets.

>>13589862
Because of one and only one game that does them well. Both from perspective of mechanics and the cast.

Other than Z1 though, >>13589867 has it right. Twin System > Squads.

>>13589867
I agree. L, UX, and BX don't average the movement, either, which I like. Now if only we could get Dash into 3rd OGs.

>>13589862
Because it means you can deploy more units and also you get more units in general, even if it's just grunt suits or whatever.

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>>13589862
Robots = Fun
More Robots = More Fun
Squad System = More Deployed Robots
More Deployed Robots = More Fun

The Squad System really just needs to be expanded a smidge more to be perfect.

Each character giving a unique bonus when they're the head is neat.
Each character giving a secondary bonus when they're in the back would be neat.

If they were going to do 4 unit squads again then a Plus shaped squad would make the most sense.
The unit at the front takes more damage but deals more damage.
The unit at the back takes less damage but deals less damage. The characters on the wings get a small bonus when they support defend or support attack but have don't get buffs otherwise.

Being able to select any of the 4 units to be the main attacker would be perfect.

Twin > Tri > Squad

>>13589872
>>13589873
So, how does that work? Do you have to take the CB route every run, or is it that once you get him, he'll carry over like everyone else?

Because if it's the latter, fuck it, we're starting with a JUSTICE FIGHT.

>>13589882
There's a lot of things you can do with the Squad System to make it pretty great. Although...

>If they were going to do 4 unit squads again then a Plus shaped squad would make the most sense.

...You kind of need five things to make a plus. Any less, and you're going to end up with something that looks more like something else than a plus.

>>13589254
>These guys are really good at making sure numbers don't get out of control
Only on the player side, certain enemies get to go absolutely nuts.

I kind of suspect everything will go nuts in 4 though, you can see hints of some really ridiculously overpowered stuff here and there when you play around with 3. Plus with the power creep in 3 they have to up the scale for threats in 4.

>>13589889
I don't have experience with the bug myself, but from what I heard he carries over fine once you unlock him. You just have to take the CB route on the run you first get him, even if you took that route on a previous run.

>>13589889
>You need five things
No, 4 units makes a Plus Just fine.
One Top, Two Arms, One Bottom.

You don't need a middle portion. A middle portion is unnecessary to make it.

In a practical sense the middle is left open so that that if anyone needs to dodge they have the option to dodge INTO the formation without crashing into someone.

>>13589897
To be fair, a lot of the units in 1/2 were underpowered by normal SRW standards due to either bad spirit set or unit design.

>>13589889
Once you unlock him he stays unlock but the flag doesn't stay triggered if you don't complete all the steps to get him

>>13589882
>If they were going to do 4 unit squads again then a Plus shaped squad would make the most sense.
>The unit at the front takes more damage but deals more damage.
>The unit at the back takes less damage but deals less damage. The characters on the wings get a small bonus when they support defend or support attack but have don't get buffs otherwise.
CROSS DOCK

ENGAGE

>>13589902
You're being a bit unclear.
Do you mean to say that "Once you unlock him, he will remain unlocked, but if you fail to unlock him the flags you triggered in that playthrough will need to be triggered again in the next one?"

>>13589900
That's a diamond, anon. Not a plus.

>>13589902
Interesting.

>>13589913
Tomato, Tomato.

Diamond, Cross, Plus.
Whatever you want to call it.

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>>13589897
But the enemies going nuts is exactly what makes the game so much fun.

>>13589901
It probably also has to be said the whole series even though 3 separate games are basically one continuous narrative. Most of the major events that let your guys get the traditional upgrade/new move events didn't even happen till 3, everything in 1 and 2 were just setup.

Basically the equivilent of the traditional first 20 chapters in SRW where all you get is Amuro in a fucking Re-GZ and Kabuto Kouji without a scrander. Just better paced and a bit more interesting.

>>13589918
>Those pairs
That anon deserved getting nuked.

>>13589901
You still have Winkysoft attack power with a modern SRW damage formula. There are six attacks in the entire game (I think?) that break 5k at 10 upgrades, and the highest base value is something like 36-3800.

>>13589254
I love out of control numbers, though.

>>13589923
Which is part of the reason why Reimu was so much better than everyone else in 1 because she was Amuro in Nu while everyone else was still riding in their dinky starter units.

Can't wait for the rest of the cast to get their upgrades. Maybe they'll even make Komachi useful for something besides Way of Avici sniping.

>>13589925
>You still have Winkysoft attack power with a modern SRW damage formula
That's a result of the game being largely inspired by @G. And personally, I like the smaller numbers. It makes a nice change of pace from the newer Super One Shot Everything Wars games.

>Captcha: select all images with flowers
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>>13589937
@G numbers isn't any excuse for them to give us characters with some really iffy spirit sets. Even @G remembered that everyone who's going to be a fighter needs Alert/Fortitude in their spirit set.

>>13589793
If you have to ask...

>>13589818
>watching Linebarrel when it's the manga version
>watching Demonbane instead of reading the VN ever

>>13589876
I like solo units the best, though.

>>13589951
Sanbondo needs to take a class or something on proper spirit set design.

>>13589937
>And personally, I like the smaller numbers.
I can't do that anymore. It was cool I guess back when I first started playing SRW, but now I just want to see big numbers because it feels like a waste of time not to.

>>13589972
>watching Linebarrel when it's the manga version

The fuck are you talking about?

>watching Demonbane instead of reading the VN ever

Didn't think it was that horrible, though it's not that great either. Probably is inferior to the VN, but that doesn't really matter here, does it?

>>13589981
>Multiple characters with Strike/Alert split when Sense exists and it would it would fix their characters just fine.
>Frail characters that rely solely on Guard for their defensive spirit.
>Guts/Vigor and Alert/Sense together on the same set.
>1.5x Valors when people like Alice can do that much with their criticals.
>That mess in general with the damage modifier spirits.

>>13589818
>there wouldn't happen to be a batch torrent of at least the things up until UX's release would there?
None that I know of. Just find a Free Manga Downloader type of thing and take it from the highest quality online source you can find. I also have almost everything of it that's been translated squirreled away, but uploading all that sounds like a pain.

>>13590016
Ah.

...do you happen to know what point in the manga UX adapts up to?

>>13590000
>Frail characters that rely solely on Guard for their defensive spirit.
Who has that? I can't think of many frail characters with Guard, and none that lack other defensive spirits.

>>13590026
Flandre

>>13590031
Oh yeah, that's right.

But to be fair, considering how Flan is set up, I'm thankful she has any defensive spirit at all. I wouldn't have been surprised at all if Sanbondo had gone full glass cannon with her.

>>13590020
Not a single clue. Despite having all that shit, I haven't read a single page of Linebarrels and know nothing about UX. I just like to hoard /m/ stuff.

>>13590035
Flandre not having a proper defensive spirit is annoying since it sort of defeats the purpose of her being a boss killer when she has to tip toe around being able to eat a counter.

Even when Ryouma's flying solo in Black Getter, BP remembered to give him something to defend himself with.

>>13590020
It adapts up to the timeskip (which is somewhere around the 80's, if memory serves). Everything after that is UX-original.

>>13590020
UX goes up to the first battle against Deus. Which is like 3/4ths of the way through.

>>13590045
>>13590049
Ah.

And it's all translated, yeah?

>>13590054
Everything that made it into UX is, yes. The currently-untranslated chapters are from after UX was released.

>>13590035
>>13590044
I think that was the point with Flandre though that she is a glass cannon, once you use her even in the context of FMW3 where you have lots of good strong units. Flandre once she gets going steamrolls everything in 1 hit even in Lunatic and takes chunks out of every boss.

That's really fucking powerful that very few other units can pull off she needs some kinda disadvantage.

>>13590095
Flandre already eats up 3.5 cost, has no cheap P option, and her singular part slot is taken up by a Parasol so she can function in Day stages unless you want to bring Rumia along.

In addition to that, she's somewhat inaccurate (unless you use Magical Girl but that means losing 1.3x damage at 170) and her durability is middling at best before talking about spirit sets.

Giving her Fortitude/Flash is not going to make her broken.

>>13590020
Also, Matt, the best place to grind for secret kills is undoubtedly the Demonbane beach episode stage. Starts you off with something like 36-40 units to kill and an unmoving boss (Dagon) to suicide Elshank on.

>>13590054
Yep, everything in UX is translated, actually on a whole Linebarrels manga is all translated except for the final volume of all things. But basically there is a time skip before the final arc and UX goes upto that time skip.

The fight with Deus in UX is technically new too since they when they had Tessho Genda voice him it was the first time ever we've seen it speak. The meeting with him in the manga there was no real fight, he just got ported away and displaced till the final arc which bought them time for the real final battle.

>>13589983
>Probably is inferior to the VN

In the VN, Demonbane punches a dragon in the motherfucking face while Tekka(wo)man Blade saves a loli from a delicious brown dark elf and then fights Tekkaman Hiyama.

>>13590165
I actually kill the Dagon, too, then wipe out the rest of the mooks, and then suicide the Quarter on the bosses.

It's easier to do on later playthroughs because you've got more skillparts you can dump into someone on the post-intermission setup screen and thus their stats'll be jacked-up higher, and you get them all back when you lose, anyway.

Fucking percentages. SR Sazabi with a level 2 finisher. I fused two more SR Sazabis and a C upgrade material. 90% chance of upgrading the finisher. Didn't upgrade the finisher.

>>13590150
>and her durability is middling at best
Last I checked she has a pretty huge armour and evade stat to make up for the S size and still learns Lock On.
Though you could up her stats with Rumia to activate the S rank it's a bit too much trouble.

>>13590150
>has no cheap P option
Gonna have to protest against that a 110 morale, 35MP, 3250 base power, +25 accuracy post movement Laevatein off the highest melee in the game is goddamn solid, almost nobody has that kinda amazing power to MP ratio.

For some quick comparisons to put it into perspective Reimu's combo with Sanae needs 40+40MP and 120 morale for 3200 power and +30 accuracy. Marisa/Alice's Malice Cannon is 35+35MP 110 morale for 3000 power +60 accuracy. Yuyuko's Ghastly Dream is the closest damn thing to it and it still costs more MP even when she starts with MP save and is still slightly weaker.

>>13590379
>Gonna have to protest against that a 110 morale, 35MP, 3250 base power, +25 accuracy post movement Laevatein off the highest melee in the game is goddamn solid, almost nobody has that kinda amazing power to MP ratio.

He said cheap. I dunno what Fantasy Maiden Wars' balance is, but unless it's fucking insane, 35 EN isn't "cheap".

>>13590422
Play the fucking games.

>>13590422
It really is for what you get normally...

Anything 3000+ power is basically a finisher tier for almost all the cast. Mid 3k's are basically top end unit finishers which can cost on average 60-75ish MP and anything beyond is literally strongest in the game hitting regions of 85+MP.

The average for cost to power ratio for MP based attacks for most units tends to be in the regions of 10ish MP for low 2000+ power attacks going upto 20MP ish for 2500+.

That's how MP scales in general anyway.

>>13589308
You say that, anon, but when I posited the idea around here now and again, it wasn't met with universal revile. It could probably be done in a way that could be fun and interesting if the concept is executed right.

Hell, OE could have been more liked if the concept was done better.

>>13590525
That still doesn't make it cheap.

Look, I'll give an example. We all know how K's finisher costs are fucking insane, yes? And how Consecutive Evolt and Overheat lucked out and only cost 50 EN. That makes them cheap finishers, but it doesn't make them CHEAP.

The anon said "it has no cheap P options". They weren't saying "no cheap P options in comparison to the finishers of everyone else in the game", they were talking about SPAM MOVES. You can't spam a 35 EN cost, unless you've got insane regen a la Aestivalises or an absolutely bugnuts EN pool.

>>13590550
Again play the fucking games

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I have seen many strange romanizations for Mister Vagina but Cassovel?

>>13590550
She has a pretty big supply of MP, and if you're using her it's a given that you're bringing along some way to fill her up.

Maybe you're a cheating bastard who game-overed until you could beat Yuuka back in stage 10 to get your hands on her sunflower. Maybe you're deploying a resupplier (typically meaning Koakuma, though Eirin is an option too, and is much less useless in combat). Maybe you're just making use of your near-endless supply of Devote casts. But the fact of the matter is that if you're deploying Flan, you're not going to just leave her unsupported.

And Flan does enough damage to make her entirely worth the deployment slots not only for her 3.5 cost, but also for her personal tank and resupplier. She just hits that damn hard.

>>13590590
Probably a literal translation of Casval without the usual "adjusting between Japanese and English phonetics".

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>>13590604

>>13590629
"Cassovel" is nowhere near a literal rendering of キャスバル, though.

>>13590630
FUCK
YOU

Yes, I'm still mad about that stage. At least she had a pair of damn good theme songs. I'll give her credit for that much.

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>>13590550
>>13590604
To actually provide more concrete proof instead of Yuuka being snarky.

Bonuses include me not realizing there's a second umbrella and Remi's MP Gauge being a little drunk.

>>13590636
Fair enough.

But then again, SRW 3's..."translation" is not exactly the pinnacle of game translations.

What's a good mobile suit for Amuro in SRWZ1?
The Nu Gundam is great, but it really doesn't work with Attack Again as well.

Or do you think I should just say screw it and throw him it anyway? I'm on Rand's route, so no Dijeh

>>13590646
>Move: 9 (3)
Wait, there are people who deploy Remilia with personal skills other than Scarlet Charisma? There are people who deploy Remilia?

>>13590675
Anything that lets him live long enough to feed Zeals to the squad leader

>leading with Z1 Amuro
baka
desu
SEN
PAI

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>>13590654
and neither is some official stuff

>>13590654
Hyouma: FUCK YOU!

>>13590688
>Hagwane

How did that W get there?

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>>13590688
>Plissken

>>13590687
What's wrong with Z1 Amuro?

>>13590379
I don't mind burning 35EN on a miniboss class enemy but for the generic fairy? That's an issue especially when we have Border and Magic Teams murdering things with far less resource cost.

>>13590716
There's nothing wrong with him, he's a great pilot with a really cheap Zeal. The problem is he has a really cheap Zeal, so most people decide to waste one of the very small number of Soul casts in the game to turn him into a Zeal battery.

>>13590742
Really Renton just needs two dedicated Zeal batteries.

Why you would dedicate a Zeal battery to anybody else is beyond me.

>>13590727
If it's something like a generic fairy, you can just murder it on the counterattack for 0 EN. And if you really need to kill something like that on player phase, switch Flan to the back and let China kill it. She has plenty of cheap, effective P options.

>>13590713
There's actually a bit of reasoning behind that one. The Barshem clones (minus Ing) all follow a pattern: Gun manufacturer/actual firearm name + Kurt Russel character name.

Take one from Alpha 3: Calico Macready.

>>13590742
>Z1Amuro
>Soul
play
the

You know what, forget about it

>>13590759
Depends on the stage though. There's quite a bit where speed is key for the SR point.

>>13590751
Ziene comes right when Renton loses his MAP capabilities with a better/worse (you decide) Seven Swell.

>>13590751
>Two Zeal batteries
Naw, he needs a Zeal and a Boost.

>>13590763
I was wondering when I'd get you to give in. Was sort of hoping it would be during the FMW discussion, but oh well, this'll do.

>>13590678
Generally speaking, Devil Guard is probably Remi's best ability if you want to make her useful without bringing Rumia. It at least lets her support defend if you give her the skill and not die pathetically to one attack even with her good HP stock. Honestly Scarlet Charisma's only decent use even is speeding up Flan hitting 170 power, Sakuya doesn't even need it since she's good to go at 120 power. If you want to use Remi for the sole purpose of boosting Flandre than you actually may as well use Flandre's "Together with Remi" PS, with Meiling and Remi that gives +9 friendship. A free 33% evade/hit and 20% damage/defense boost.

>There are people who deploy Remilia?
Out of morbid curiousity?

>>13590646
No real reason not to just give Flan the 10 bar MP upgrade instead of a 5 bar. She benefits more than anyone from it and you should have 10 bar upgrades when they join.

>>13590796
That was the first time I replied to you and my first post in this thread.

>>13590044
Or you could just have Meiling support defend for her.

>>13590797
Sanae also needs the 10 MP upgrade really badly. But she's more of a second fiddle in 3 from my experience.

>>13590805
Meiling can't support defend on the PP until when she learns that one PS.

>>13590808
She learns it at level 38. Unless you've been benching the best support defender in the game for some inexplicable reason, she's almost guaranteed to already know it by the time Fran joins; by that point, you've been fighting enemies above level 38 for several stages.

>>13590816
Or you could be playing Reimu route where she'll be behind level wise since they don't get reaveraged when Marisa's characters join.

>>13590762
Ing's name follows the machinery children's theme of being based off Germanic runes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yngvi#The_Ingwaz_rune

>>13590806
Sanae really is kinda like Ideon, she's going to be your lynchpin if you dedicate support to her or be mediocre if you just try slap her in.

Funny you mention about her being second fiddle in 3 though, there is actually unused placeholder data for a Sanae route in 3. Sanbondo scrapped the third route last minute to make the release window, you can actually still see one of the unused chapters which doesn't exist in the final game in the Eternal PV.

>>13590824
Egrett's last name, Fehu, is also based on the same runes

>>13590824
I know Ing was different to avoid spoiling the reveal.

Even if him having a different VA than the other Machinery Children was already a red flag.

>>13590828
What would a Sanae route even be like anyway? If they were adding TD or something then I see them using her route for setup.

>>13590823
In which case she still has five stages to catch up.

>>13590852
More like 4 since one of those stages is a glorified event.

Who gets the better upgrade?
Reimu or Marissa?
Alternatively who has the better upgrade stage?

>>13590675
Hrm... you're a bit limited there because most of the MSs have their strongest attacks as ALLs.

I suppose your best option (in a way that doesn't really gimp protags) would be to put Amuro in the Zeta and Camille in the Nu.

>>13590675
>but it really doesn't work with Attack Again as well.
Huh? The bazooka and beam saber are plenty strong enough to take out grunts no problem. He's not gonna completely wreck bosses sure but you've got plenty boss killers already. Or you could use him in a squad with someone who's great against bosses but not so great at clearing out mooks and switch who leads.

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>>13590942
speaking of Santa, holy fuck that new Dino Charge episode

>>13590654
It was a different, more innocent time....................

>FMW2 down
Alright, time for the best game.

>30 hours of play time to get your first skell if you rush through

>Don't want to rush and do as much stuff as possible

Guess It'll take a while until it gets awesome.

>>13591117
>30 hours of play time to get your first skell if you rush through
What? If you rush you should be able to get a Skell much sooner than that. 15 hours at most.

>>13591117
>>13591127
Since the topic of unrelated RPGs has been brought up, anyone else hype for the new FF7 trailer? Granted, some of the changes will take a lot of getting used to.

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>>13591183
>Wearing sunglasses at night

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Seriously does Athrun exist just be NTR'd all the time?

>>13591183
I am not too thrilled with them leaning towards retconning Emo Cloud into the original game.

Other than that, hopefully the final game will have some better sound mixing, because I could barely hear Barrett in the trailer.

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This is bullshit

>>13591214
He IS harrassing Latooni on FB though. Hope the cops get him, that pedophile.

>>13591216
Lazy refusal to redraw cut-ins/portraits aside, isn't Lat like in her 20s by now?

Hello guys, I just want to ask if someone (even Jaegan) can post a download link of the Tengoku hen perfect bible scans since I was looking at the downloaded scans from pastebin, they weren't there?

>>13591222
She's sweet sixteen.

>>13591224
STARTING TO FIND MY WAY

>>13589981
>>13590000
I kind of like that FMW don't just automatically get all the staples spirits of their character archetype which means yes - the whole "have to work around not just being able to cast Sense/Flash/Fort to attack a boss" part.

Though obviously they really should be a bit more aware of that and compensate them in other ways... certain characters, more so than others.

>>13591212
They only showed like early Midgar, which was in fact when Cloud was at his most "emo" - he gets better.

>>13591234
>They only showed like early Midgar, which was in fact when Cloud was at his most "emo" - he gets better.
Not really, he was a pretty sarcastic bastard there.
There's a fucking squating minigame in midgar.

>>13591249
Yeah, but the trailer is like SUPER early midgar - just the reactor and the "I'm surrounded jump onto the train!" part.

>>13591256
True, but he wasn't "emo" there either.
He only became "emo" after Aeris died and he found out that his life is bunch of fucking horseshit he stole from a cooler dude AND became paralyzed for a while.

He snapped out of that. It's only post FF7 works that portray him as that

>>13591288
It was understandable that he'd be "emo" in Advent Children considering what was happening though.

>>13591288
Well he had fantasy aids and resigned himself to death in AC.
Of course he'd be debbie downer can you blame him?

Anyone use Athrun in Z1?
I'm trying to get back to Setsuko's route, but I've only ever used him as a squaddie.

Is he any good as a lead?

Personally I think the gameplay changes to be the interesting bit from the trailer. Still gotta save for a PS4 though, so actually playing is a long way away. Any discussion based on his personality...not interested.

Also, in case the day comes about when a PS4 SRW becomes a thing, is it region-free like the PS3 is?

>>13591325
Shit yeah it's not region locked

>>13591323
Post a screenshot of his attacks

>>13591323
He's like Quattro where they're good leads during the Setsuko split but when both teams join up, they're better off being someone's squaddie.

>>13591413
I had no problem using IJ as a squad leader in one of my playthroughs. All depends on how much you upgraded Savior and what your playstyle decided to give Athrun as a skillset.

>>13591524
Its not that IJ is bad, its just that there's much better choices for squad leader even within SEED Destiny itself such as SF.

>>13591565
I felt like switching things up a little. On all my playthroughs of Z1 (midstage 59 in my 7th) I tried to make sure my final deployment wasn't the same every time.

>>13591597
USE BOSS BOROT AS LEADER.

>>13591607
Requesting the pic of that one Z1 Boss Borot that had fucking broken as hell stats.

>>13591607
Even if someone besides Boss was the pilot, it'd require all four part slots to be filled with high-end parts I could put on better units, or at least ones whose Mobility caps higher than a hundred fucking thirty at 15 upgrades.

OK, I love what's going on with this event. Yes it's HP bloated like crazy, but limit breaking a Sazabi gives you a copy of the next version up. This needs to happen to all the units all the time.

>>13591863
So are you going to continue the event till the last drop or stop at SSR Chan?

>>13591888
Considering how much of a pain it is at 25 kills, I don't know if I'll even get to Chan.

>>13591183
I enjoyed the trailer, I knew they weren't going to use the original battle system, but they've found a way to incorporate it into a system similar to XV's.

I was surprised honestly, I didn't expect a gameplay trailer so soon. I thought we wouldn't get one until next year or so.

>>13591200
Sunglasses always look cool to wear though anon, regardless of the time of day.

That said, I do like new Barret, it makes him look more of a leader.

>>13591212
... What? Cloud was never like that. That's just most of the fanbase who've only watched AC and thinks that's his character trait.

Besides, this is at the start of the game, when Cloud only cared about getting paid, and had no interest in what AVALANCE was doing.

>>13591200
So I can keep track of the visions in my eyes

>>13592063
>I didn't expect a gameplay trailer so soon
Apparently it's been in development since sometime in 2014, and they only showed like one fight in the first 30 minutes of the game too. It's not too far fetched they managed to polish it up for a short trailer.

https://twitter.com/HccvJPE8Dk/status/673040968090705921

Nice to know that them nips aren't much different from us.

>>13592094
The fuck is he even talking about and why should I give a shit?

>>13592109
And what makes you think anyone gives a shit about whether you give a shit, shithead?

>>13592094
I don't get how that still comes across as a surprise to some.
Unless they seriously think every community that isn't us is a hive mind where everyone agrees with each other, and not the same melting pot as us with a different URL and maybe less gratuitous insult hurling. But that would be silly.

>>13592117
Why did you expect anyone to know what 2chan memery he's talking about? Why do you expect us to give a shit about some autistic tripfag's fucking twitter account? He doesn't even translate shit here anymore.

>>13592109
>>13592130
>>13592133
here's your reply mr shitposter :^)

>>13592137
Hey, I didn't talk shit about TE. Don't lump me in with the other two faggots.

>>13592133
https://twitter.com/HccvJPE8Dk/status/661483827496259584

Can we get along please.

THE TARGET

>>13592196
Aimo.

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>>13592204
Go away, Ranka.

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>>13592204

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>>13592219
>>13592233
Don't bully the Ranka!

>>13592365
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>>13587222
It's always the case that haters of popular things are much more vocal than fans of popular things, especially on a board like 4chan.

You see this for Final Fantasy VII and you see this for Gurren Lagann