/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #777

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New thread popped up just as I posted this:
Super Robot Wars Compact - A Game where Iron Mask was behind the events of Endless Waltz, Glemy was left in charge of Zeon and allied himself with Poseidal's forces, and Don Zauser from Daitarn 3 drops Axis.

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>OZ Specials
>In Zakus, not Leos
HERESY

>>13550673
Look at them numbers, we got the mad cashes.

>>13550692
OZ in 64 is a bit different

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>Char's reaction to Axis being dropped
PRICELESS

>>13550692
Oh, you picked the Simurgh. Good job!

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Char seems very pleased

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Without further delay, let's get this over with.

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At least they have Tragos and Aries

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Char feels rather uncomfortable.

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So after completing SRW F, I am now checking out SRW FF again.

It is a nostalgia trip.

What a great game.

There will never be anything like it.

Everything pales in comparison.

Everything.

Especially your lover's love for my big brown cooking classes wherein I teach Arabian cookery.

>>13550734
Reminds me, I need to actually play that too.
I keep losing my F save and I refuse to start fresh in Final.

>>13550692
OZ is full of surprises in 64.
You can join them.

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And like that, Koros is dead.

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The rival appears!
Why are we fighting?
Clashing of ideals in a war-torn world filled with political intrigue?
Division of labours between altruistic resistance and ambitious power shuffling?
Unresolved sexual tension between two elegant women in pretty dresses?!

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And these are my top pilots by the end of the game.
Rate them, /srwg/.

>Links are all trombe
Wow fuck u kid

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And here we are. The Final Mission of Compact.
I can't tell what it's called.
Is it... Soup or Robert's Wares?
No, that can't be right.

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Anyway, the Don's made copies of every villain we've faced thus far, and hid in the back of the room.

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Our forces give a heroic speech, which is powerful enough to stop the silence of the stage with the game's main theme song:
Stage Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKX-JmPY8vQ

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It's a Gundam!
How original.
Colony scientists are hacks, Tem Ray should sue them all.

>>13550806
Oh boy it's Don Saucer. Better lube up your asshole.

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Also I must not have paid attention to last intermission, as I have gained a new ally who I will never ever use

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Here's the plan: We throw L-Gaim at them.
>>13550817
Oh yeah, rate my final team.

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>>13550778
>Unresolved sexual tension between two elegant women in pretty dresses?!
Pretty sure it's this one.

>>13550825
Or...you could lure them towards L-Gaim and get similar results.

>>13550786
Well the OP is literally Trombe, it's no surprise really.

>>13550835
The Don is WAY too far away to do that

>>13550837
Fair enough.

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>>13550844
On second thought, I have Dancouga, which means I can do this...

>>13550824
>Not making your own shrike team
Come on son

>>13550851
I'm confident I'll have enough female pilots to make that happen regardless.

>>13550824
Despite being a subcharacter, she's a Newtype so she ends up fairly-good later on.

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>>13550857
It's not that, I just don't really like Roux.
You could say I prefer Strawberry Banana over Blueberry.

>>13550871
Shame that Roux always gets in over Elle if they even have more than Judau or Puru in the games.

>>13550876
That does happen a lot. Elle usually only gets in if Beecha, Mondo and Iino are in too.

Still waiting fir my ZZ/Unicorn crossover event. Maximum Puru Combo Attack.

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I beat all the Swordian Guards.

...I'm not sure why.

>>13550884
That'll be a while anon, we don't even know if they have Marida lead the combo and use recycled Puru lines or they get a new VA for that.

Or they pull a Banjo and have a VA that replaced them elsewhere try to do a line for them.
Banjo's VA was Tien and Midorikawa replaced him in DBS so I guess that's why they tried it in Z3.

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>>13550871
Raspberry is the patrician choice

>>13550890
SR Point

>>13550894
Grape has always been the plebian choice anon.

>>13550900
What's wrong, Mr. Fox?

>>13550894
That flavour is almost never in stock.

THE DON IS IMMUNE TO PROVOKE

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I never really used to care for/about Haman, aside from liking her VA.
I blame the new Zeta animation look for making her look a billion times hotter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRofephEYTE

So how many of these characters have OG equivalents.

>>13550922
PANIC.
Or just have everyone beat him up anyways.

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>>13550899
It was really more getting everyone's will up and trying to catch a couple people (DEATHPENIS) up on levels. I probably should've just burned down Dark Brain with Folka/Kouta/Ryusei as soon as I got their will up, but....

By the way, I noticed they fixed Shine's will gains. That would be nice, if she wasn't outclassed before she even joins.

>>13550938
She's a great support pilot in 2ndOG cause of synchronize

Fuck I ate some expired barbecue sauce and now I have a killer headache, like I'm a cyber-newtype without meds.

>>13550952
Anyone have that 4koma where she becomes Sanger?

>>13550953
Could be worse, my friend apparently ate moldy food the other night.

>>13550953
But can you see the tears of time?

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Dom vs Simurgh
who wins?
I'll give you a hint ;
Not the Tri-Stars

>>13550953
I ate some old trail mix yesterday but thankfully managed to spit it out and rinse my mouth out before I got too much of it in my system, hope you feel better anon.

>>13550966
Those look like Dreissens

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>>13550952
She's good support even in OG2 because of Synchronize. Yeah, will gains, but she barely needs any and OG2 has enough grunts it's only a problem on the final stage.

Second biggest weakness is probably that Sonic Breaker is only one range, so the Fairlions really need the G-Impact Stake or the Boost Hammer to have any grunt-clearing utility. But on the other hand, who else was gonna get those?

Once you deal with those weaknesses she's a really handy combat support pilot. Park her next to the SRX for the Love bonus with Rai and she can just pop out RHBs forever.

>>13550966
Those bazookas look cute.

>>13550978
OG2's Synchronize isn't great since it only lasts for one turn

>>13550978
Arado kinda needs the Boost Hammer, but you do get two G Impact Stakes so you can just give those to the Fairlions

>>13550972
So they are.
I never got a good look at them in game.
They blew up too fast.

>>13550957
I used to eat moldy bread in college, because I was cheap and dumb. It mostly just gave me nasty stomach aches.

>>13550985
What, you didn't get SP Regen for everyone?

>>13550990
I always found that Arado got along fine with....whatever upgrades Twin Bird Strike, I forget.

You know it's pretty simple to add the 64 characters when I think about it.

Just like how events got switched around in the Shadow Mirror universe, the events that led to the development of the Shadow Mirror style machines came later in the main universe.

You can always chalk it up the JEW BITCH SUPREME making her own variants off the Shadow Mirror data she probably nabbed.

>>13550999
>What, you didn't get SP Regen for everyone?
Attacker and other skills take priority. Especially Mental Focus if they have any big spirits like Soul, Love, Zeal, etc. And using that 10 SP every turn just to keep Synchronize up means you'll never actually be gaining any back after you spend a bunch of SP.

>>13550999
Arado's ranged stat is just eh and without equippable weapons, the Wurger can only hit up to 1-3 range. And Victim Beak costs EN while Boost Hammer is free.

Plus I have way more important things to be spending my money on than Twin Bird Strike

>>13551012
>Plus I have way more important things to be spending my money on than Arado
This is my variant of that line.

>>13551020
>Plus I have way more important things to be spending my money on than Seolla
Double fixed

>>13550999
>I always found that Arado got along fine with....whatever upgrades Twin Bird Strike, I forget.
Stag Beetle Crusher is pointblank so it's right out.

>>13551012
>Arado's ranged stat is just eh
It's not "eh". It's one of the lowest Ranged stat values in the entire game.

>>13551012
>Mental Focus
Maybe its just a play style thing, but I find that to be a complete waste of time to get on anyone who isn't a dedicated support spammer or has overly expensive spirits and even then its fairly low priority.

>>13551020
>>13551025
>Plus I have way more important things to be spending my money on than anyone from that whole stupid School plotline.

>>13551033
Isn't Victim Beak the one that upgrades Twin Bird Strike? That's 1-3 but it also has a will requirement and costs 35 EN.

Other than that he can only hit 1-2 range in melee by default with his sword, and anything further than that has to be attacked with the dinky built in machine gun, or something equipable. But even then most equipable weapons besides the secret melee based ones will be a waste with Arado's ranged stat.

>>13551040
>on anyone who isn't a dedicated support spammer or has overly expensive spirits
Those are exactly the people you get it on, dongus

>and even then its fairly low priority.
If you have a spirit that costs 50 or more, especially if it's a Twin spirit since it reduces the cost for both pilots, it's by far a better investment than SP Regen. And it's amazing on subpilots.

>>13551057
The problem with Mental Focus is that while it does save SP, it takes forever before you actually get the SP to squeeze in an extra cast. Especially with things like Ryusei's 70 SP Zeal.

>>13551063
If you're giving Mental Focus to Ryusei you're probably using it for HTB Spam, in which case SP Regen would be completely useless since the HTB Spam all happens in one turn and will likely end the stage as well.

At least with Mental Focus Ryusei gets at least two casts of Zeal instead of just one.

>>13550876
Compact 3 had Roux (with no real good unit to put her in because Gundam units are at a premium)

Oh, and Judau's sister.

>>13550927
I never really found her "hot" in appearance either, don't know if its the artstyle or funky hair.

Dat voice though, she can step on me anytime.

>>13551057
>Isn't Victim Beak the one that upgrades Twin Bird Strike?
No: http://www35.atwiki.jp/srwogskouryaku/pages/24.html#id_73adbb6d

>it's by far a better investment than SP Regen.
How is "infinite SP" a better investment than "can use your spirits maybe 1 more time per stage but you still have to be stingy as fuck, anyway"? Actually, no. Don't answer that.

>>13551081
I mean "How is infinite SP not a better investment than..." but fuck it, let's not get into this.

>>13551081
10 SP a turn is hardly infinite
SP Regen is handy if you feel the need to cast Focus on all your reals every single turn sure but most stages are over before you run out of SP on everyone no matter how you play. If their spirits are cheap then sure skip Mental Focus, but things like Attacker, E-Save, B-Save, Hit & Away, etc take priority over SP Regen still.

>Actually, no. Don't answer that.
Go fuck yourself

>>13551073
For a decent period of time, there's no difference between the number of Zeal casts you can squeeze out between a Mental Focused Ryusei and one without.

>>13551063
And at least in OG2 you need to be spamming Strike/Focus/Alert/Invincible to deal with the fucking bioroids.

>>13551012
>Boost Hammer is free.
Technically, it isn't

>>13551101
The endgame Model W's are nearly as bad
And yet the Einst are somehow worse than generic AI pilots.

>>13551097
>10 SP a turn is hardly infinite
It keeps refueling every turn, without condition at all.
In the long term, it is infinite, you dumbfuck

The shit you people say sometimes.

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>>13551077
>funky hair
That is the best part about her, apart from her eyes.
She must use newtype magic to make that hair work in space

>>13551118
>In the long term, it is infinite, you dumbfuck
And most stages are over in like 5 turns, this isn't Alpha Gaiden where endgame stages start taking 10+ turns.

And don't ask a question and immediately go and tell me not to answer it, it makes you look like a smug faggot.

>>13551126
The entire OG2 endgame from assaulting the White Star onward wants to have a word with you.

>>13551126
The 40 SP to save thoughout the stage are better than the measly amount you save from Mental Focus.

>inb4 HTBspam
If you're HTB Spamming you're already leeching off Mai's casts as well, even without Ryusei running Mental Focus you still kill everything in one turn short of both of Dark Brain's forms in Ex-Hard which you're still not going to do unless you bring literally every Enable caster in the game or are playing it on your NG+x10^23 so you have so much PP you can afford to skyrocket Ryusei's range despite the double PP cost

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And we start to run into manned Grados soldiers now.
Good thing Akito and Kira aren't here to whine every two stages about this.

>>13551144
You're usually spending the first turn moving into range, from what I remember. So it's more like 30 SP, and that's assuming you're using some every turn instead of just dumping it all on a boss.

>>13551144
Saving 28 SP between two pilots on a Soul cast is hardly measley. Being able to get 3-4 attacks out of Koryuoh is hardly measley. Cheaper Enables, Blesses, and Rouses is hardly measley, especially since you won't be spending much SP on your support pilots at all until close to the end of the stage. SP Regen doesn't do shit if you have full SP.

>>13551143
Did I say anywhere that I never get SP Regen on anyone? I get it on people who don't have expensive spirits.

>>13551153
Almost everyone has some sort of spirit that they're going to want to cast on the first turn ranging from pre casting a defensive spirit or Will+ spirit.

Hell you can even cast Zeal on T1 to move into range faster.

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Oh yeah, Layzner finally arrives.

Now where the heck is mah Dunbine . . .

>>13551163
Eh, makes enough sense to me.

I'm not a big fan of how expensive Zeal always is, but eh.

>>13551158
>SP Regen doesn't do shit if you have full SP.
Which is exactly why you use it?
Like holy shit, listen to me for a second:
let's purchase the skill that deals with SP costs over time... and then let's not use SP at all!
Fucking

Cheaper Blesses and Enables hardly do shit when outside of lolAlfimi they cost 45 or higher per cast, and Rouse isn't as absurdly necessary in OGs with its nerf.
The only time Mental Focus wins over SP Regen is in the early game when you can use it to get Soul JUST under your maximum SP to kill a boss, all other times you'd much prefer having SP Regen

>>13551153
Knowing you can replenish most if not all of the SP you cast, you can pre-emptively go for a defensive spirit or start Acceling/Kiaing

>>13551175
Stage 11. You also get Shiro as well since you went with the super route.

>>13551182
Pilots without Yell, Drive, Accel, or Iron Wall aren't going to be casting much on the first turn or two when you're just getting into range. Precasting Alert is pretty useless unless it's on a support pilot, since it'll get wasted dodging a mook instead of a boss.

Look, for fuck's sake I use SP Regen and Mental Focus. All I've been saying is Mental Focus is great on pilots with expensive spirits, which you seem to agree with. With or without either skill you're rarely going to run out of SP regardless unless you're blowing it on Focus and Guard every single turn.

Why the hell are you arguing so hard against that?

>>13551199
>It'll get wasted dodging a mook
You'll be surprised at how dodging that one attack can make a difference at times.

>>13551207
If they have a 10 SP Alert, SP Regen, and aren't casting anything else that turn maybe. Most reals will be able to dodge reliably enough and Supers not called Dancouga or Combattler can do just fine taking one more hit from a grunt. Especially in OG where just about everything but your battleships and the Gigan can become reasonably dodgy if you give them a relevant S rank.

>>13551151
Why is it that I find Akito and Kira's whining about killing people annoying but not the Fafner pilots?

>>13551239
Is there a differing motive behind their whining?

>>13551009
>You know it's pretty simple to add the 64 characters when I think about it.
I guess you mean "storywise" or something, but the real reason we aren't seeing the 64 characters is because of the legal snare with Hudson

>>13551243
Well, the Fafner pilots do live in a post apocalyptic setting where they spent most of their time fighting golden aliens and the adults want to avoid Human vs Human conflict as much as possible because if Humans are fighting each other while the giant mind reading aliens are around there's no way we'll survive.

And as the series progresses they even try and progress further and further to cohabitation with the giant mind reading aliens with varying results.

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He didn't even use his own V-MAX against me. I am almost worried, I know he has the red one.

How do you spell his name anyway? Ru Kain? Le Cain? I dunno.

>>13550312
Hyper Hammer starts at 1400 (though when you get it, it's something like 1950 because the Gundam has preloaded upgrades).

Not only is Alpha Aizeru's finisher - a 2800 power move - stronger, it's WEAKEST MOVE - a 2000 power move - is stronger. And I'm fairly certain they're all Range attacks, while the Hyper Hammer is Melee, and the only Gundam pilot with a higher Melee stat than Range is Bernard fucking Wiseman.

>>13550360
>Which is actually the same amount that got into every other SRW until then.

I thought it only went up until the first time they killed Space Cockroach?

>>13550478
Oldna Fucking Poseidal happened.

The Original Auge is FUCKING TERRIFYING. Its attacks START at 4500 and end at 5400, and this is the Winkysoft Era, so if it hits you you're fucked.

>>13550512
Thing is...

>>13551263
I can forgive the misgivings of the Fafner people for that kinda crap world.

>>13551246
Adding to that, Hudson's been swallowed by Konami, so chances of this happening are even lower.

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So Lady Une blows up Relena's dad, and runs off.
Relena is saved by Alan from Dancouga.
And then we go to California to catch some surf.

>>13551285
Hyper Hammer starts at 4600 once you factor in V-UPs.

Bask Ohm is here at New Edwards Base for reasons yet unexplained.
He brought the Alexandria and two Marasais, cute.

>>13551341
Before you ask, yes, his double chin does indeed grant a defense buff.

>>13551336
>once you factor in parts

Parts don't count to an attack's initial strength, but if we were to count them, we'd also have to count the power boost Alph's finisher gets because Newtype and the effective final power boost it gets because the pilot's attacking stat isn't fucked.

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>>13551354
I doubted you at first but, welp, there it is.

Also Zechs is here, he is in an Aries.
I noticed this because one of his named OZ lackeys was also in an Aries, and he had sad words for when he got shot down.
Seriously though, they only have 4300 health.
Though I bet due to the RNG he'll somehow beat up the neutral Wing Gundam that just spawned.

>>13551285
You misunderstood the first part.
He just got tapped lightly on the head and he popped

>>13551211
>And the Gigan
Says you. I had it with perfect dodge in non-Special Mode OG1s with Bullet in the pilot seat. But that's OG1, where you're not seeing excessively-accurate enemies with S terrains everywhere. Balmar AI is...not that competent.

>>13551423
>Bullet
Well being a Psychodriver and actually having an evade stat worth mentioning probably helps.

That and with OG having variable upgrade bars until 2ndOG, Reals could end up with absurd armor and Supers could end up with really high mobility. The Wurger in OG2 and OGs can get like 2400 armor. Hell the R-Gun in OG1 has 1800 base armor for some reason.

>>13551419
Yeah. Original Auge is deadly, but, uh... well, by that point, you have X amount of OHKO machines, so him hitting you isn't really a threat. Also no MAPs.

>Scramble Commander 1

well fuck, how do I beat this one boss that looks like a UFO with a big mowhawk?

It has 32k HP, immortal, and when I kill enough grunts the game mentions an AT Field. Am I supposed to use an EVA on it?

One thing I forgot about Compact Color being different from Compact B&W is that Color got rid of double action but didn't increase the P attacks you have.

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Question: is the banshee norn locked to riddhe in z3.2 or after the forced deploy will i be able to kick him out for the original pilot? cause i really don't want to use him but i do want the banshee.

>>13550673
>>>/mlp/

>>13551504
Banshee Norn's a free unit, so feel free to put whoever in it.

I'll give Tengoku credit for being the first non-OG SRW in quite a long time to make pilot-switching worthwhile.

>>13551504
You can put whoever in it, but only Riddhe has the combo.

>>13551504
Banshee Norn is usable by anyone from UC/Turn-A. Twin Beam Magnum, however, is locked to Riddhe.

>>13551507
>Not knowing who Trombe is

You poor soul.

>>13551522
It's weaker than Unicorn's actual finisher and only 450 points stronger than the Banshee's, so it's not make-or-break by any means.

>>13551528
Nobody cares about your gay pony OC, Elzam.

>>13551526
>>13551522
lame. at least allow marida to use it.

shit i dumped the FA parts last map
are they gone for good or did banagher just not forcedeploy with them?

>>13551580
Tengoku will automatically put them back on after every stage even if you took them off in the previous intermission or jettisoned them during the stage. This is a glitch. Laevateinn's flight pack has the same problem. It's reversed in BX: if you want to use the FA parts, you have to put them back on every stage.

>>13551580
Depends on the game, but I hear BX makes you have to equip them every mission regardless of use.

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>>13551547
But Riddhe is really good at shooting people.
He gets +25% damage against emotionally vulnerable women.

Am I the only one worried about the future of the SRW series?

>>13551598
I am worried because the most recent game was a mobage

>>13551587
It does. It's annoying as fuck because Unicorn's a victim of the handheld team's design ideas (pointblank beam saber that can't hit flyers) and it loses the Beam Machinegun in Awakened mode so its only P options are the 1-2 vulcans, beam saber, and NT-D attack.

>>13551589
fag can't even kill her in SRW. he doesn't even have ace status. but seriously who the fuck drew his portraits? it looked like he had a massive shit stuck in his ass.

>>13551635
To be fair, that's not really far off.
>muhneva

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>>13551635
His faces are hilarious

>>13551509
2ndOG was kinda fucked in the pilot switching department too due to the loss of the Huckies. And then Dark Prison didn't have enough units or pilots to do much besides toss someone in the Grungust

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>>13551639
what a kek.

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>>13551648
>His faces are hilarious

yes

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>>13551635
Whoever it was, they were definitely having fun.

>>13551658
I'll admit losing the Huckebeins in 2nd OGs was the epitome of the ghey, but you still had options. They just need to bring more free units into 3rd OGs.

>>13551659
I actually want to see a Banana/Mineva SoL series, for some godforsaken reason.

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Years late, I beat OGG. It was fun, if short and the power creep was really obvious by the end. Shu went down with barely a whimper. Masaki got the final hit, as is right and proper.

Next, should I:

Play Alpha 2 Arado route, the only route I haven't done?

Play Alpha 3 Kusuha route and get the proper ending now I'm not on Ex-Hard?

Or go straight on to 2ndOG?

Though since I'll be moving soon, I'm probably not actually going to get through any of them...

>>13551676
More worthwhile free units anyways. The return of the Wildraubtier was nice but other than that there was pretty much just the R-Blade and Armorlion. Besides those there was a bunch of garbage like the AM Gunner, a regular ass Guarlion, and that F-32 jet again. That's not counting stuff like the Grungust Kai or the Laz Angriff cause you really have no gameplay reason to change their pilots unless you're dicking around. And while a lot of pilots can use things besides their default unit, in a lot of cases no one else is allowed to pilot their usual ride. Like taking Latooni out of the Fairlion.

>>13551682
Make Dozle's ghost be a recurring character, and you have me sold on it.

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I'm a little intimidated.
Oh well, can't be OG bosses, right? RIGHT?

tengoku really fucked up the rebuild
unit 9 loses the repair ability for no reason
there is no ALLs among the later evas
never had beast mode for unit 3
no wunder
no awaken unit 1 gameplay
no secret unit 6 to have mari in
fucking sucks

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HE FUCKING SUMMONED REINFORCEMENTS

>>13551712
May they secretly hate Rebuild?

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HE SUMMONED REINFORCEMENTS THAT SUMMON REINFORCEMENTS

>>13551720
YO DAWG YO, I HEARD YOU LIKE REINFORCEMENTS, SO WE PUT REINFORCEMENTS IN YOUR REINFORCEMENTS.

to anyone who has played both Scramble Commander games, how polished is #2?

>>13551720
yo dawg

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>>13551714
>>13551720
[J intensifies]

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HE SUMMONED REINFORCEMENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY JUST EVIL VERSIONS OF OUR OWN UNITS

>>13551719
>Secretly

>>13551712
Kinda hard to include something in a story when no one but Anno knows what the everloving fuck it was about until 4.0 is out. They really should've just waited for all the Rebuilds to be out before they started putting them in games.

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GET FUCKING ONE SHOT BITCH
YEAH
FUCK YOU DON SAUZER
SO MUCH FOR BEING A FINAL BOSS
GET
FUCKED
YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>13551730
I tried that game out for like 5 stages.
It was kinda eh.
BUT IT HAS TEKKAMAN BLADE.

>>13551727
>how polished is #2?
Ridiculously. It's almost a complete gameplay-reboot.

>>13551731
What is that?

>>13551743
literally Evil Dancouga

>>13551742
cool. I hope it doesn't have the stupid "you have to repair between missions"

or maybe some way to train your people you don't use

>>13551743
looks like Dancouga

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eiji why do you have a flamethrower

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SEE YOU LATER DON SAUZER GET FUCKED
>>13551751
Why don't YOU have a flamethrower?

>>13551598
Well, a lot of the classical voice actors are getting older.
You can hear the difference in Kamille from Z1 to Z3

Speaking of the Z series, I'm kind of disappointed that you have all of this unique dialogue between characters from other series, but nobody ever calls the main characters by name during battle/voiced events.

>>13551751
Eiji is a fan of Macready, that's all.

>>13551733
What was the IRL timeline between Z3-1 and Z3-2 in relation to Rebuild 2.0 and 3.0 again?

Maybe they thought that 3.0 was going to be "Evangelion the Hot-Blooded version" that everyone thought when 2.0 was just released and then got sucker punched when it turned out to be an hour of gay piano playing

>>13551760

Yeah its a shame there, and you know how Japan is about replacing voice actors.

But I also mean like just, I wonder if there's not enough money to sustain the series these days. It'd be a shame.

I guess I feel mecha in general is kinda tampering off. I dunno.

>>13551733
I really liked the units in L and even in Z3.1 but tengoku they just are kinda unimpressive with very few attacks. SRW is fanservice and they kinda get to adapt the plot how they want so mk 6 could have been secret unit or a boss. mark 5 could have been for mari if you save asuka from getting wrecked.

>>13551750
> I hope it doesn't have the stupid "you have to repair between missions"
It doesn't. You get healed to full absolutely free after every stage.

>>13551760
Mostly because they assume that not everyone is going to use the default names for characters, so they get around that by commenting on character traits or the mech they're using.

I mean, Banpresto doesn't necessarily have the budget to have every boss record unique protagonist names such as "Blast Hardcheese" or "Dongs McButtFace".

>>13551760
>but nobody ever calls the main characters by name during battle/voiced events.
Because you can rename the MC

Which is kinda pointless since they just show up with their default names in the next game in the series anyways

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>>13551755
I don't need no flamethrower!
I have a . . . a . . . boomerang! Yeah. . . that's it.

>>13551774
>It doesn't. You get healed to full absolutely free after every stage.

good.

One more question, when I pick a unit to be upgraded, are they unable to be used?

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...So it's over.
That's it, folks. I've beaten the entire game, and the last song is being recorded as I type up this post.
I feel kinda nostalgic, fighting my way through all these damned missions in under 6 turns with my favorite robots, getting to save some guys, bring them over to my team. It's been a fun ride, I'm kinda sad to see it be over.
All of the characters got their conclusions, even Daba's gang AND CHAR gets to live happily.
I think I'm going to miss Todd/Bilbine and Daba/L-Gaim the most. Not to mention being able to play as GATOOOOOOO. Oh, and the crossover interactions like Lilith and Cham.
This game's kinda underrated, all things considered. I suppose my only complaint would be those stupid lategame units, but that's understandable.

>>13551780
Not just any boomerang, but a Destruction Boomerang!

>>13551780
Boomerangs are one of the coolest weapons for robots. You cannot deny this.

>>13551781
>One more question, when I pick a unit to be upgraded, are they unable to be used?
Nope. Upgrading's done between stages and doesn't cost you anything but money. You can upgrade HP, EN Regeneration Rate, weapon attack power, and super move attack power. Your damage resistance and hit and evade rates are tied to your character stats, which you upgrade with PP. Thankfully, you can get as much PP as you need with the Free Battle mode.

>>13551787
>>13551792
The very cutting edge of anti-mecha technology.
If I had two of them I could destroy colonies.

>>13551794
but will I be unable to use them for the next mission while they will be upgraded?

and speaking of special moves, do they work like they did in SC1?

Where you need to charge at 80% and you can't do shit until it's maxed and forced to walk?

>>13551776
>>13551777
They don't have to call them by name then?

There's no unique dialogue for them from the other characters that aren't original, and Z1 is probably one of the best attempts at making the original characters apart of the cast rather than some outlier. It just seems disappointing.

Also, is Setsuko the last/lattest female main OG Character?

>>13551801
You mean if you could double boomerang?

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Ah, thank YOU for your broken english

>>13551802
>but will I be unable to use them for the next mission while they will be upgraded?
No.

>Where you need to charge at 80% and you can't do shit until it's maxed and forced to walk?
No. Just kill some enemies to have enough Morale, have enough EN remaining, pick the move from the menu, do the move, game pauses to let it happen, see damage numbers, life goes on.

>>13551804
They probably don't do it because they'd only be able to reuse those lines for at most a few sequels.

And literally NO ONE calling any MC by name, especially if they don't have a nickname like "The Heat", would be weird.

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>>13551810
even better

Oh look, Emma spawned in a straight line from Heero.
I wonder if his AI will get him to use the Buster Rifle MAP (yes)
He loves that MAP, he keeps trying to use it whenever Duo and one enemy get infront of him.

>>13551804
>Also, is Setsuko the last/lattest female main OG Character?
Yes. Aside from Crowe they did "male main pilot, female subpilot" for every single SRW afterwards.

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>>13551811
They got better at it later

So, what now?

>>13551865
IMPACT time

>>13551865
OGG

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oh god, my star-crossed lover asked me a question
where is the button that continues the romance?

>>13551865
If you still want a short game you could try Compact 3, or one of the first three mainlines on GBA (they're all...37-39 stages I think).

Will we ever get SRW Seigi?

>>13551865
A Portable

http://wiki.cre.jp/SRW/%E7%9C%9F%E3%83%BB%E9%BE%8D%E7%8E%8B%E6%A9%9F

>Shin Ryuohki

>Size: 8000 km

wait

what

>>13551873
I think the options are "Wait, Aisha!" and "It can't be helped, Aisha", but that font is hell to read.

Top one sounds like it's the way to continue the romance, though.

>>13551867
Oh God no
>>13551872
I'd have to finish OG's first and I don't feel like it
>>13551874
If I were to play Compact 3, I'd want to play Compact 2 because lolOrder, and Compact 2 is... hm.
>>13551883
Honestly? I totally would. But I'd want to play Advance first, but since there's no practical reason to do so, I'm going to delay it for something else.

>>13551890
>If I were to play Compact 3, I'd want to play Compact 2 because lolOrder
Or you could just swallow your fucking pride and just fucking play Compact 3.

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>>13551888
>that font is hell to read.
It really is.
>>13551890
4 or F? The hilariously wonkily translated 3?
Or if you wanna stay handheld you could do A, R, or D

>>13551863
Really? I swear 2nd OG has THANKS FOR YOUR PLAYING.

>>13551906
I would suggest R. I love R. Then again, I also like C3, so my opinion is probably invalid anyway.

>>13551914
I don't remember what 2ndOG had at all

Speaking of OG, you know what's gonna be nice? Seeing the rest of the handheld protags with more than one portrait for the entire game.

>>13551906
Quattro's jawline looks like it could cut through steel.
>>13551923
I cannot wait for Calvina's "batshit crazy anger" portrait.

>>13551923
Except for Calvina, she only has one expression.
*murderous intent*

>>13551903
Sounds like you REALLY want me to play Compact 3.
>>13551906
F sounds tempting, but someone else just played that and I don't want everyone seeing more of the same in SHORTER! lengths of time.
4 already has its music in the pastebin, as does 3, A, R, and D.

So... as soon as I finish uploading Compact's music, I will move on to... Something.

>>13551743
The evil Dancouga copy from God Bless.

>>13551782
>I think I'm going to miss Todd/Bilbine and Daba/L-Gaim the most. Not to mention being able to play as GATOOOOOOO. Oh, and the crossover interactions like Lilith and Cham.

All of those things are in other SRWs. Compact 1 is IIRC the only game in the franchise that was entirely new (aka not a remake) and had no new series, and the only plot it ran that isn't common was God Bless Dancouga, which finally had its second run in Z2.

>>13551887
Ouryuoh is fucking massive, man, and when it powers up it gets more fucking massive.

>>13551865
>>13551890
Now you take a plunge and join the Magnate 10.

>>13551928
Oh man, we're probably going to be able to recreate that one picture of all of Shinn's angry faces with Calvina

>>13551929
[Menacing]

>>13551937
I'm not gonna play MX, Matt.

Again, I'm trying to play games that don't have their music ripped.

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>>13551938
*smirk*

>>13551950
>I'm trying to play games that don't have their music ripped.

Ok, what's your list of options in that case?

>>13551958
I believe thus far:
1
2
EX
Are any of the Masou Kishins ripped?
Shin, if I'm desparate
F/Final
64, but...
Compact 2
Alpha/@G
Compact 3
Link Battler?*
Scramble Commander?*
*The bonus stuff

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>>13551928
>>13551929
Angry Calvina mind

>>13551969
>Alpha

Do that.

>>13551969
I'd kill off the Compacts just to have a clean sweep of them, but maybe that's just me.

>>13551976
Reason being?
>>13551980
Fair point.

>>13551937
Yeah, Todd as a recruitable is pretty common and I only think most of the games that don't have him is because of space limits or "Dunbine has become post-plot"

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>>13551969
ooooh Alpha, that'll be fun!
You get to play with >>13551954 again!
Otherwise . . .
Even though someone just did F it's okay, we've all seen the thing many times anyway.
I am tempted to suggest 64 anyway cause it would be nice to have music for it (it's really good)

>>13550149
Alpha 1's ending is kind of funny as it's an artifact of the game being Shin SRW 2, so it shows shit that absolutely doesn't happen in Alpha 1.

>>13550410
Billbine don't play.

>>13551983
Alpha 1 is a decent game? I mean, that's reason enough.

>>13551984
>I only think most of the games that don't have him is because of space limits or "Dunbine has become post-plot"

Or Compact 3.

Fucking Compact 3.

>>13551985
...You know what, fuck it, I'll go back to playing 64.

Most recent version of Project 64 is what you're using, yes?

>>13551991
2.2.0.3 is what I am using, is it the most recent? maybe

>>13551985
>>13551991
>MAXIMUM TRIGGERDRIVE

>>13551994
Does it still have that "you can't make hard saves without using the Memory Pak" problem?

>>13551983
Alpha is fun, but it's pretty long. As long as you're okay with that, it's a good game to play.

>>13551986
>so it shows shit that absolutely doesn't happen in Alpha 1.

Like what? It's been forever since I played Alpha 1, so I don't remember anything weird about the ending at all.

>>13551997
rom saves seem to keep, so I don't think the mem pak is required

>>13552000
Good.

Because that was a big problem the last time I played 64. (It also had a bad tendency to eject the Memory Pak, which was even more annoying)

>>13552004
I still have the transfer pak in my controller.
I'm just using the normal cartridge save.

>>13552006
Ok.

So when you loaded the game, how did you get past the black screen?

>>13552049
There was no black screen, where did you encounter it?

>>13551998
Like the Angel Halo successfully shooting the Earth with its mind woogie laser.

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>>13552053
I turned the game on, and this happened.

>>13551969
Isn't Alpha/@G's music up on youtube already?

>>13552079
True.
Is it available for download in the pastebin?

>>13552061
I'm not sure, I haven't changed any settings on the emulator (I think)
Sound is a bit stuttery, and some of the images look wonky.
But it just worked.

>>13552087
I DONE FIGURED IT OUT.

THIS DOWNLOAD CAME PACKAGED WITH AN EXTRA GRAPHICS PLUGIN THAT WAS FUCKING EVERYTHING UP.

Now it's time for me to finally get back to work on a Brad run.

>>13552093
Oh I see.
Well, at least it was a simple fix.

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Alright, I've got all of them.
Any blatant errors you can spot before I upload them?

So...

Do I go Independence Army, OZ, or Complete Pacifism?

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>>13552118
Are those the 64 routes?
Damn, that is a tough choice.
I am leaning OZ or Pacifism here.
I dunno what each one entails (beyond a base knowledge of Gundam Wing influencing my actions)

>>13552130
I also have to decide if I want to rescue Katz or not.

I'm leaning towards no.

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>Banjo Haran, Professional Motherfucker

I think one of the most painful things about the Z series was how VEHEMENTLY it refused to really expand on Shin Mazinger.

Even the stuff we got in Z3 was just "Hey lets take these characters we saw for a few seconds and turn them into grunts and mid bosses with really lame attack animation."

Compare it to F and Alpha which is where Mazinkaiser got most of it's life and its sad.

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Well, at any rate, here it is
Super Robot Wars Compact Music:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/swfezc5z5h2npzx/SRW+C.rar

If you feel unsatisfied by the quality of the music, either it's really just the wonderswan just doing its best to shit out the music, or I can try to polish it up.

I might start playing 64 soon. Since we already have anon doing Manami and Matt doing Brad, I guess I'll have to go with best theme song.

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You know, having Double Image is pretty goddamn great.

Shame the mech it's on has literally one move it can use on the enemy phase past 1 fucking range, and it has 8 ammo.

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Everyone versus the Devil Gundam!
>Kyoji runs away at 50% (13000) HP and drops a Minovsky Craft
>50%
>Minovsky Craft
I will have to use a hot-blooded V-MAX or Invincible Combination for this

>>13552159
I think I like that blue-haired chicks song the best

>>13552166
>I think I like that blue-haired chicks song the best
Well, it's really more purple than blue, but you're otherwise correct.

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why do such things as this exist

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>>13552170
Yeah, at a second glance, I'd probably call it maybe Indigo.
>>13552175
Reminds me of Big Blast Divider


The G Gundam trend of wacky eyes continues!

Anyway, that was a load of stuff.
I think I'm gonna take a small break from SRW for now.

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THIS WAS THE FIRST STAGE

ONE STAGE IN AND HE'S ALREADY FUCKING OUT OF AMMO.

>>13552188
why are you doing this to yourself

They sure are taking a lot of time announcing the next game.

I kind of want to have something to look forward to.

>>13552197
Come on, BX only came out a couple months ago. Give them some time.

>>13552201
Oh right. Forgot about that existed. Yeah i guess its fine.

Maybe they'll announce one early next year.

>>13552203
Maybe if we're really luck we might get some hint in December, if not, yeah, hopefully early in the next year.

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Fucking Amuro doesn't think he can cut it anymore.
Someone tell the ghost of Lalah to stop haunting him or give him a ghost blowjob so he can get off his arse finally.

>>13552203
We got an announcement last year on Christmas of their big game. I suspect that'll happen this year too.

OG3 when?

>>13552150
Or hell, BX did a lot of crossover with SKL and actually had a fight with the General of Darkness

>>13552188
I'll be reminding you when you're complaining about the range 30 stages from now that this is entirely self inflicted

Does anyone know if there is a Super Robot Wars theme for the 3DS and how to get it/find it? I've looked all over the theme shop and can't see any, but maybe I missed something.

>>13552150
>Finally gave it a chance in SRW and even gave it a nice conclusion the show never did
>"waaah banpresto treat it like shit!"

>>13550929
Reiji - Yang Long
Valkyrie - Tytti
Leon - Kyosuke
Katana/Akatana - Excellen
Yuri - Duvan
Byakushin - Kali Yuga
Shadow - Brian Mcrid
Chrom - Gaen
Axel - Bullet
Zero - Feilord
Captain - Raidiese
Akira - Ryuusei
Saya - Mai
Hibana - Viletta
Ryu - Hugo
Chris - Lionel
Lord Raptor - Debtman Crowe
Aya-Me - Levi Tolar
Black Hayato - Beowulf

>>13551704
I like how they removed Wildwurger L in 2nd OG though.

>>13551821
Why can't we have a female main, male subpilot anymore /m/?

Think the last time they did that was with Kusuha and Bullet.

>>13552319
It's hard to outbeta Burrito.

Who at Banpresto thought Glitter Failsaber was a good idea

He won't die

He heals

He has a dramatic sword pose finisher

I have paired him with God Raijin Oh and the 90s train has no brakes.

Also the next SRW with AGE needs Xabungle too for Plasma Diver Toss combo attack

>>13552350
Too balance it, it looks like shit and his pilots are mediocre.

Only the incest shit saves them, but only by little bit.

Also, not as broken as DP shu.

>>13551991
>Fucking Compact 3.
Todd died at like the 2nd last stage of C3.

They didn't even really have that much space/time to put in more than 3 (mostly pointless) secrets, and Todd's not exactly MASTER THERION to deserve "joins for last chapter" status.

>>13552356
>and his pilots are mediocre.
Huh? Youta's about what you'd expect for a Super pilot and between it's four pilots it has a bunch of support spirits, Accel, and Zeal.

>Also, not as broken as DP shu.
You might wanna lower your standards a little, I mean seriously if Neo Granzon is your baseline for "Not shit" not much is gonna get past that

>it looks like shit
And you should get your eyes checked

>>13552350
Now wait until NG+ and you can change Youta's spirits. Makes it even funnier.

>>13552371
Is it only Youta or can I make true horror by giving it multiple pilots with Soul

>>13552360
They could have made him join much earlier though.

>Todd's not exactly MASTER THERION to deserve "joins for last chapter" status.

Or, alternatively, make him MASTER THERION tier strength by making his Hyperizing permanent.

>>13552356
>his pilots are mediocre.

Dudewhat. It has four of the fuckers, two of which can get SP Up/Consumption Down pumped into them and all of which get SP Regen naturally thanks to mech abilities. It's not as good at Zeal/Hot Blood spamming as 00 Quanta or Mazinkaiser SKL, but it's decent at that. And they get most of the more important spirits in the game too.

>>13552379
Only Youta, unfortunately. That has the problem of you not wanting to give him certain spirits because the others learn it in the lategame.

That said, if you want fun:

>Give Youta Soul and Zeal
>one of the subs has Zeal
>Bruvictor has Hot Blood
>THE MURDER TRAIN DOES NOT HALT UNTIL THE ENEMIES ARE ALL DEAD


Seriously though, my only problem with Grittier Farusaiba is that it doesn't range past 6. But even then, it pairs well with so many mechs that it's not that big a deal, and most things died to GLITTA BASTA anyway.

>>13552165
>>13552188
Matt, we agreed that Brad is shit, right?

So for the love of Jesus Yamato WHY ARE YOU USING HIM?

>>13552387
And outside of some Sleeves and Vagan mooks, hardly any enemies in BX will try and snipe you in the first place.

>>13552394
Isn't it established in this thread that most of us are masochists?

But only the king of masochists complete OE

>>13552423
Don't be silly anon. No one's completed OE.

>>13552356
>Only the incest shit saves them
>incest
You are literally retarded, more so than Aqua. I really mean it, anon.

>>13552306
Man, some of these people have good range. I didn't recognize some of them like Hugo and Debt.

>>13552455
Don't bully Aqua please.

>>13552455
You should say stupider than Seolla.

>>13552460
Semi annual reminder that Seolla was snapped out of mind control by calling her a titty monster

>>13552468
And telling her that all she's good for is her tits.

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>>13552459
Aqua is shit

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>>13552468
>>13552469
Seolla is great though!

>>13552468
>>13552469
That's probably the flimsiest mind control I've ever seen. Shut down by simple fact stating? What the hell.

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>>13552455
>more so than Aqua.
Oy m8, fuck you.
>>13552472
And fuck you too.

>>13552478
Well technically it was just memory reprogramming. They wiped all her memories of Arado and all the evil shit the School did to them.

>>13552362
>>13552350
I think the kicker about Glitter Falsaber is just how ungodly shit the base Falsaber was, then just suddenly it's just game over. The game ends right there because nothing can feasibly kill it.

>>13552490
I wouldn't say it's shit, the problem is it can't take a fucking hit so you have to blow SP on Focus, and is stuck with just the fire thing as a "finisher" for a while.

But going from that to the magic equivalent of "NANOMACHINES, SON" is pretty fucking absurd. On top of having bootleg Mazinpower and four pilots.

I liked Falsaber, it was a pretty good design and I enjoyed using it.

It gets a golden star in my books.

>>13552478
Well the mind controlled thing is a halfassed way to do their Alpha 2 plot where IIRC Seolla legit believed that Arado was a traitor until when he convinced her that the Titans were wrong.

>>13552494
Probably not quite total shit but in relative terms far as what you get in BX goes it is pretty bad.

Can't really take a hit, can't dodge, hits like a wuss, only close range attack is a basic punch for most of the game until it gets Aerial Spark than almost immediately gets it's combination. Hell I literally did a no upgrades or skill parts run on my first play through and Falsaber was like the only thing in the whole game who could not OHKO enemy squads. Bluvictor was just hands down a better unit all round.

Also it's animations are kinda awkward to watch and it doesn't even follow it's own theme.

>Magical knight robot power by IMAGINATION
>Only things Youta can imagine are punch, flamethrower and sword (hard)

Falsaber's only real positive is that it is literally the best SP stock which has ever existed in the whole SRW series with it's SP regen ability and decent support skills.

>>13552503
The Titans are always wrong, even more that Zeon.

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>>13552500
I liked it too. Glitter is a bit iffier, mostly because of Bruvictor's metal cape thing turning into some kind of giant starfish backpack. With an actual cape it would have been excellent.

>>13552508
IIRC, it's extra dumb in Alpha 2 because you kill the shit out of the Titan higher-ups (Bask, Jamaican etc) + Jerid in that one mid-game mission in Alpha Gaiden so the only people left as Titans representatives are Yazan's crew, which makes Seolla extra moronic.

>>13552505
>literally the best SP stock which has ever existed in the whole SRW series
Well not quite, Valzacard still exists. Glitter Falsaber gets pretty close though.

It did feel like Falsaber was kinda short on attacks though. Not as bad as Rushbird sure, but only having 5 attacks, and the finisher is just an extended version of another attack, is kinda weird.

And it's a problem an eventual OG appearance can't exactly fix besides maybe giving it Aerial Spark earlier. They've been adding more attacks to some units that were missing moves they had in their own games, like the SRX and RKO, but from what I remember they've never made up new attacks for exiting units.

>>13552516
Its even stupider when their reason for joining the Federation and ending up in the Titans was because of Amuro.

But then again, Seolla's tits took away most of her piloting skill and common sense so yeah.

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Cool, the BX site has a step by step explanation of KIKOU GATTAI
1/3

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>>13552523
2/3

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>>13552526
3/3

>>13552523
>>13552526
>>13552531
Pretty cool.

>>13552428
I would happily restart OE for the thread.

Especially if I could use infinite PP and money cheats to not have to fuck around with grinding for them for ten hours just to get anything to three hits of their weakest attack.

>>13552517
>Well not quite, Valzacard still exists. Glitter Falsaber gets pretty close though.
I'd argue it IS better than Valzacard.

For one thing, I don't see Valzacard getting SP regen for ALL the pilots so the Glitter Falsaber never runs out of spirits though Valzacard has more pilots and cheaper costs.

Glitter Falsaber also has a slightly better selection of spirits whilst Valzacard has more redundancy. The real killer deal though is GF has a 55 SP Zeal and cheaper Daunt with SP Regen and Adaptation, Justice I suppose is nice too but is kinda minor.

>>13552586
I always thought Justice was too expensive for how limited its uses are. Every time I try to use it, the AI targets everything but the guy I cast it on.

>>13552592
Justice is the king of Enable abuse. It's made for the "kill the final boss with nothing but HTB Cannon" crowd.

>>13552596
Yeah but the closest equivalent to HTB Spam in BX is the Final Jigoku special, and SP is a bigger problem with that than the EN costs.

I mean it probably helped a ton that I had Mazinger up to like 400+ EN since it was paired with Harute, but I still ran out of SP for Zeal/Valor/Enable before I ran out of EN, and Resupply casts. And I only had the units involved at 5 EN upgrades.

>>13552596
What does Justice do?

>>13552611
Negate all EN/ammo cost of the user's weapons for one turn.

>>13552615
Pretty neat.

>>13552592
I only really got much usage of it with UX's Linebarrel, because its strong "far-ranged" counter-attack options take up a lot of EN but is pretty powerful so it basically acts like a damage boost + super snipe Spirit for a turn.

For units with middling ranged options that don't suck up a lot of EN, Justice wouldn't do much.

>>13552620
Only problem is it costs about 70 SP

>>13552625
To this day I still don't get why they gave it to Seric of all people. He's stuck in his Clanche Custom and its attacks that cost 10 EN max.

>>13552630
It's because Seric is SEIGI

>>13552630
I actually wonder if it was planned to affect both characters (especially at that 70 SP cost!)

That would make giving it to him actually make sense to act as a "support" character

>>13552475
Where is the bear

Wasn't Justice rebalanced at 55 SP or so in BX?

>>13552648
My memory might be shit but I'm pretty sure it wasn't that cheap

>>13552648
Nope, it's still 70.

>>13552620
Do barriers cost nothing too?

Biggest SP "balance" from UX to BX change is probably Drive dropping from 80 SP to 50 SP.

Of course ironically they introduced Mike Sounders so no one cared.

>>13552648
Nope, still 70.

Just that there is at least someone who can make use of it in BX without being rendered useless after.

It's astounding how broken Glitter Falsaber was, if the boss didn't have HP regen you simply weren't ever gonna win. Because of the Three Treasures you could basically have a all out one turn assault then simply turtle whilst you recover SP as you were always GAINING HP instead of losing it.

Three Treasures was a fucking broken ability and as if they didn't find it broken enough they upgrade it again into All Treasures a few chapters later.

>>13552666
And it's not like will gains are much of an issue in BX in the first place. A couple casts of Yell/Rouse to get the combinations going on the first turn is all you really "need", you hit 150 will by turn 3 with or without Mic.

>>13552669
What are the treasures supposed to be, anyway? They've got fancy names (Heart, Strength, Life and Memory IIRC) but I didn't get the rest of the plot about them.

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Good thing I wasn't planning on spending money this weekend.

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>>13552708
My dick.

I hope some of that money goes to Crow for his debt, HAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH who am I kidding.