/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #776

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ERIKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Of the English translated SRW, which would you say is the best one?

And why?

Let's get a proper discussion going for once.

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What was your least favorite unit in every SRW you've played?

>>13546774
EVA units, honestly.

>>13546774
I have a hard time giving a shit about Frontier units now after being in so many games.

Bring the original series back anytime now please.

>>13546773
I think J, unfortunately. The translated Classic games have shit gameplay thanks to not getting to choose counters, @G doesn't let you use the cool units and get a good ending, and J has really bad series choices.
>>13546766
ERIKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>13546773
Alpha1, its so good

>>13546760
That's how it's always been, not like we burn through threads particularly fast or anything. Unless there's actual news we only go through like 2 a day and the old one drops off the board long before the next one hits the bump limit.

>>13546774
I swear the Airmaster is cursed. It got shot down more than anything else in all my runs of Z1. It was hard to keep alive during it's force deploys in Alpha Gaiden even.

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>>13546774
Forgot to tack on the obligatory
>and why?

>>13546799
I miss Baldios

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>>13546774
Compact: Aphrodite A
OG1: The Rangzen, no reason for its presence
OG2: MP Huckebein, it's ugly and is shit in stats
>>13546784

>>13546798
Yea, in R I ended up just benching it for being meh. I'll probably do the same in @G.
Kept the Leopard though, support attack with something as good as it's gatling is always welcome.

>>13546813
Yeah, Leopard makes a nice squaddie if you slap a terrain part on it to fix it's B ranks against flying targets. And somehow he dies a lot less despite having way less mobility, and only Alert for defensive spirits.

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we got reinforcements

>>13546774
Freedom because I'm petty and hate Seed enough to ignore the numbers on stuff for once.

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DRILL
TEMPEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT

>>13546834
Hayato isn't that hotblooded, at least not on Ryouma's level.

Saying "Drill Tempest" with a shit eating grin feels more like him.

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>>13546809
>OG2: MP Huckebein, it's ugly
>ugly

MP Huckebein is a sexy grunt for a gundam knockoff. I hope the Pfeil III isn't the only custom version we get.

>>13546824
Sounds like a good reason to me.
>>13546839
Hayato can be just as hotblooded as Ryoma.

>>13546839
I'm pretty sure he's shouted Drill hurricane a few times to qualify for hotblooded
>>13546841
There, it looks passable.
The sprite looks fucked though.

>>13546843
Sure but he also has that "Smug guy" attitude. He's hotblooded when shit goes full crazy.

>>13546851
It looks a bit better in OGs, my problem with it is that the color scheme is ass. Tan and beige? Really? They could've at least made it green like the 009 or something. Hopefully we get the Pfeil and some MP Wildschweins or something.

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THE PLEASURE OF BEING STONER SUNSHINED!

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>>13546862
Don't you diss the tan and beige.

>>13546879
It looks fine on there, it just looks bad on the MP Huckebeins.

>>13546774
Anything that's a waste of money even in Special Mode.

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I finished this stage in less than 3 turns, it's a literal pinata.

>>13546748
ttgl when

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Somehow I feel I'm approaching the end FUCKING SHIN GETTER 3 MISSIONS BEFORE THE END OF THE GAME
One is the L-Gaim finale, the other.... ZZ Finale? Who knows?

>>13546774
I don't really need to explain why I hate using MP Huckebeins.

>>13546784
Don't forget that @G is still technically a beta with untranslated graphics everywhere, weird bugs, untranslated library, etc. Not a deal breaker by any means, but worth considering.

If we're counting OG1/2 in this discussion, Atlus clearly had to compromise a lot of stuff due to lack of time and support from Banpresto. They couldn't even get a variable-width font, let alone text box extensions. There's a lot of script weirdness and inconsistencies compared to other GBA games they released around the same time period, too.

J's probably the cleanest overall finished product, but it is kind of boring...

>>13546972
>They couldn't even get a variable-width font, let alone text box extensions.
That's what happens when a game isn't made with localization in mind in the first place

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A is still really hard, even on psp

>>13546773
Personally I would think J as it's just one of the better efforts regardless of any other factors, in my opinion, anyway.

I stand by the thought that pretty much any translation is better than none, though.

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>>13546966

I prefer my Hucky's green

>>13546789
>Alpha 1
Tell me your secrets, Atreem traveller

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>>13547001
jesus, it looks like a vegetable

news when?

>>13547016
>news when?
When I finish ripping all the music from the games we don't have music for, or play Compact 3 and Impact.
So never.

>>13546966
Because they're based around equippable weapons and don't even have a finisher? Because their stats are shit on a stick?

>>13547001

What ever happened to those wings on the back anyway? all the older huckebeins had them, but the MP's and later models don't.

>>13546774
Guren

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never mind that

What's your FAVOURITE mecha to use in SRW?
For me it's gotta be the Gespenst, any version, any variant.
Heck, it's half the reason ACE1 is my favourite ACE game.

>>13547016
Hope for something mid-December. If nothing hits then, who knows when in '16 we'll hear it.

I'm usually a little behind on news leaks for SRW, usually you'll hear about it first from what, Famitsu? And that's a monthly mag around the early-middle of the month? Just wanting to clarify to myself to know when to be hopeful and when to give up next month.

>>13547071
Bellbrigand and its FF-less, low cost thanks to regen, goodly ranged, powerful Homing Laser MAP. I mean holy shit is that unfair.

>>13547071
I asked that question a couple threads ago anon. That's why I changed it to least favorite this time.

>>13547071
>ACE1 is my favourite ACE game.
Oh, dear god. I tried playing that, and I lasted about 15 minutes before I gave up in disgust and went back to 2 and 3.

>>13547091
I want the playstyle of ACE3, but with the cast of 1

>>13547071
The SRX is just hilarious to use in all versions, even Shin SRW

>>13547071
Gunbuster is always a joy.

>>13547036
>>13546966
You can also add "because the game loves ripping Latooni from whatever mech she's currently in and jamming her as a force deployment into a MP ShittyBein"

>>13547098
I don't get what's so great about 1's cast, but if it makes you happy then it's all good.

>>13547071
OG1: Grungust___
OG2: Huckebein Mark 3
Compact: Dunbine/Bilbine or Daimos

>>13547056
The MPs are based off the MK II.

>>13546774
Least favourite? out of all of them?
Probably everything from Macross F.

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>>13547141
And I realize after posting this that the MK II has wing like things too.

>>13547123
It is real robot heaven.
Dunbine, L-Gaim, Dragonar, Zeta and TV WING.
I am heavily biased toward all of those things.

>>13547120
Thankfully that's only in the first part of the game. After you get back from the Ethiopia/Moon route, I don't think it happens again. Although Lat does autodeploy in the fucking thing in the last stage of the Moon route. But once she gets the Fairlion that's her go-to unit.

>>13547071
Alteisen.

>>13547071
I really loved using the Exia in Z2 due to its pretty cool animations. It was pretty hilarious to hear Setsuna screaming "I am Gundam" every now and then.

>>13547155
The MkIII still has the weird backpack looking things that don't seem to do much of anything

>>13547212
Maybe it was for the black hole engine, keeping it stable, something like that.

>>13547219
Either that or they're part of the connectors for the Boxer frame, or something

>>13547143
I meant in every game you played. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.

>>13547219
>MKIII
>Black hole engine

okay.

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What is your favorite series that has gotten into SRW and why?
What's your favorite one that hasn't?

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I'VE CREATED A MONSTER

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>>13547311
Favorite Series: Gundumb.
Reason: Nostalgia-fag.
Favorite not present in SRW: Argento Soma (pic related)

>>13547249
I wasn't sure myself, like you want it listed as per each game we played?

>>13547382
Yes, just like the favorite unit one I asked a couple threads ago.

>>13547321
I take it you're doing that because you need to cast Strike to hit anything even at max mobility because C3's hitrate formula is fucked.

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Fuck it we're finishing this game tonight.

>>13547212
Those are missile pods.

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>>13547517
Why the hell are they attached to the arms like that though?

>>13547527
I think they're used to dock with the frames

>>13547535
Boxer maybe but I don't see what use they could possibly have for the Gunner

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>>13547527
They aren't, they just stick waaay out to the side. The Katokipose doesn't' really do it any favors either.

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>>13547456
Nah, I just did it because it was fun

The Hitrate's not any more fucked than any other Pre-accuracy Stat SRW I think, although it has AP problem of having the "+Hit" modifier on Attacks be rather low overall.

Also because the Supers have some fucking tragic Accuracy stats, like "30 points below your Reals" level of sad.

Anyway beat Compact 3 in like 5 days so that's a nice breeze. Don't know where the "Compact 3 is super terrible like Shin!!!" idea comes from, as far as fun factor goes I place it around the weaker GBA games.

My thoughts on it are
- I hope you really love Dunbine, because I swear most of the missions are Dunbine related.

- They definitely rushed the game out before it was "done"... either that or it was probably intended to be part of a series like the 3 "Compact 2" games.

- There's a surprising amount of unique skills that I think was a bit of a prototype for what would eventually become unique ACE bonuses in future games. Not that they matter when you're solo-ing with Apothoesized TE but its the thought that counts?

- OMEGA MISSILE and Stealth Cloak were like the boogeyman of the game but they didn't end up being game ruiners like I expected. The Missiles are really stupid and will usually just hit 1 or 2 units for roughly 2500-3000 damage instead of wiping your team with proper positioning and my memory tells me Escaflowne enemies only really appear in like 3-4 missions? Aura Barriers are more of an issue considering the prevalence of Dunbine

- The units implemented is actually decent given the very small roster.

cont'd

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>Scramble Commander 1
>have to fight THREE Beserk Evas at once

So why are they taking OE off the PSN? Is this another copyright shitstorm like with marvel 3 all over again?

>>13547540
I had the vague impression they were missile pods, but hell if I know where I got that idea.

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>>13547560
On the new "never appearing again ever" series:
Escaflowne: Underdeveloped but the MC Escaflowne unit is a decent "Jeigan" and his attack range + power feels kind of modern compared to other units.

Mechander Robo: Kinda sucky for a 3-man unit - terrible Hit stat means it can't hit the broad side of a barn without Strike but only 1 guy has it and it's the guy with Valor.

Pretty crap attack ranges too - Winkysoft tier "lots of Range 1 attacks" and the 2-5 attack has a whooping 5 Ammo.

Acrobunch: Joins late, is really good, feels fresh compared to COMBATTLER V

Betterman: Jokes about the titular character not joining aside (OE BIT CLOUD JOKE), this series is actually handled decently gameplay wise - it has an actual upgrade curve of a customizable 2-pilot Reals which can turn into a Repair/Resupply unit which upgrades by getting an additional sub-pilot seat and flying.

My only issue is that they also join a bit too late for no good reason and mostly just shows up as a tease for like 2 missions in the early game before they finally join for real like 2/3s into the game.

So out of all of them I would say Betterman is the one I look forward to coming back.

Also I think it has the best track in Compact 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXNk_M4NJhM

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He started out as a pretty squishy Super who could deal damage.
Now, with the power of ERIKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
He is unstoppable.

>>13547311
A review of Real Robots Final Attack attached to the Italian version of the G Gundam comicalize.
So I'd say Gundam was the main reason.
But the ignition was playing with Ryusei and the R-1. Since that moment I tried almost all the existing SRWs, with Alpha being the funniest, alongside with OGs and Z

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I think it's safe to say Stoner Sunshine doesn't need any upgrades at all.

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Oddly enough, Amu is needed to convince what'sherface

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And then we finish her off with Daba.

>>13547560
>The Hitrate's not any more fucked than any other Pre-accuracy Stat SRW I think
You really only needed S terrains and maybe 200-300 PP in your Hit stat (depending it's an oldtype or super pilot) in @2 and 3 to fix most of the accuracy issues. And the accuracy modifiers were nicer, although parts were pretty stingy, but at least @3 had Special Mode.

>although it has AP problem of having the "+Hit" modifier on Attacks be rather low overall
AP was made while Banpresto was asleep at the wheel since they were busy with Z1. I don't know if that was the case with C3.

This stage is fucking killing me it won't let me get the Auge

>>13547630
@3 is hardly an example of "non-fucked accuracy," though. Hell, I've seen enemies with sub-20% hit chances on fucking Mazinkaiser without upgrading its mobility or Kouji's evasion. That really shouldn't happen.

What's the longest you've ever taken on a stage in SRW? I got sidetracked a few times, and had to take an asston of screenshots/webms for it, but the last stage of Alpha Gaiden took like 4 hours real time since I was actually planning shit instead of going balls to the wall for once. And that's without counting my disastrous first attempt at it.

>>13547527
They don't that's the fang slasher on the arm.

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>>13547630
>but at least @3 had Special Mode.

and that is fun as dicks for one simple reason. EVERYTHING comes with a -0.5 squad size modifier

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>>13547683
I think about 2-3 hours on 2ndOG on EX Hard.

Worth it because fuck EX hard.

>>13547683
As of today?
The Raideen powerup stage, or something.
Actual time consumption?
Ingram betrayal stage.
You already know why.

>>13547702
It's still hard to believe how hard you fell for the ruse cruise considering how obviously fishy Ingram is from literally Stage 2

>>13547071
OG: Koryuoh, Soulgain
Non-OG: Sol Gravion, Dangaioh

>>13547707
I'm a REALLY gullible person. Ask anyone that knows me, and they'd agree.
and I'm just generally retarded

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I like everything about this machine except for those goddamn feet.
WHY

>>13547721
>Not loving the Demonbane Legs
FAG

>>13547689
I never quite took the time to figure out how to do that, I'm assuming it's the repair thing?

>>13547726
THEY GO UP NEARLY TO THE SHOULDERS

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>>13547729
That's only because of Alpha 2/3's extreme SD proportions

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>>13547727
resupply module

Units A and B have the ability to resupply and have flight (in that case I had both battleships)

Turn X:
Unit A moves next to unit B
Unit B resupplies Unit A

Turn Y:
Unit B moves next to unit A
Unit A resupplies Unit B

and repeat because a resupply of a unit at around the same level is 200 EXP.

but when a low level unit resupplies a level 99 unit it gets like 800 EXP until around level 91.

This was some of the people I got to level 99 but I do know recall the final count of level 99 people by the end. My quicksave file is at the very end but it's12:15 AM and I work later today.

I will try to see if I can take a pic shortly after I get home.

>>13547737
Why are there tank treads on its shoulder?

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>>13547737
I know, I know.
Though the paneling on it there makes me think it's a Virtuaroid.

>>13547745
Alt R2 suffered the fate of all Artillery based mech. Like the Hind Kind, artillery based mech will always gravitate towards turning a Getter 3 design.

>>13547745
Because AR-2 is gonna have tread feet instead of hover feet. And everyone loves skating mechs.

>>13547754
I don't think it's gonna have full on treads

>>13547762
Look at those shoulders. Those are fucking treads.

Any mech that is focused on artillery and has some form of extendable grappling weapon is doomed to a Getter shape.

>>13547765
And look at the size of Banpreios, the AR-2 and 3 are going to be fucking gigantic

>>13547754
>>13547762
I really want for Altered R series to be playable in OG3, but knowing Bamco it wouldn't happen.

OG3 when?

>>13547747
Man, Virtual-On. When I hit that stage in Alpha 3, my first SRW game experience, I had no idea I'd suddenly get flashbacks to an arcade game I loved to play when I had the chance, but hadn't played in years thanks to the machine being removed.

>>13547771
Considering we got the ART-1, and the SRX Project didn't get shelved for years in OG like it did in Alpha? Banpreios isn't going to be a last minute panic move that has to be superglued permanently together just to work.

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>>13547071
Soulgain.

Just...Soulgain.

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Those terrifying moments you start to pay real close attention to your game.

>>13547780
Yeah, they've been foreshadowing Banpreios being full power in OG since...well, Alpha 3. I mean, the end of that game straight up has "Oh man Ryusei, if only Banpreios was full power, we could go to different dimensions! Too bad...but...someday..."

They figured out how to make the SRX work with the twin system, so there's no reason NOT to include the AR-series. It's pretty obvious they wanted to have them in Alpha 3, with Rai/Aya/Mai all being fully statted out and everything, but couldn't do it for whatever reason. Now they can.

>>13546367
>Toei Getter
>Kid friendly

Hayato is proficient with throwing knives. That harmonica he uses? It's also a deadly projectile, IIRC he slices the head of a snake off with it once. He also kills two Dinosaur Empire footsoldiers who were (at the time) disguised as thugs, without knowing they were Dinosaur Empire.

Ryoma's not as bad, but he did once kill a bunch of sharks with Hayato.

>>13546929
>FUCKING SHIN GETTER 3 MISSIONS BEFORE THE END OF THE GAME

It's a good bit before that. More like five or six, and in a ~33 stage game that's not so bad. Alpha Aizeru is later.

>>13547579
>Kinda sucky for a 3-man unit

FORTUNATELY, it does upgrade into a four pilot unit later (with no other actual upgrade, but the fourth pilot is quite nice)

>>13547721
Because they disconnect and form part of its sword, of course.

>>13547796
AND ON THAT DAY

THE IDE ALLOWED EVERYONE TO LIVE.

>enemies with potential
just fuck my shit up. fucking hell its like bergelmirs all over again.

>>13547805
Emphasis on the friendlIEST
Not saying they're good, every other Getter incarnation is just... worse.
It's 5 by the way.

>>13547071
Mazinger/mazinkaiser/great/shin
invincible iron castles are so fucking OP
taking no damage with their high def then dishing out so much damage, especially with mazinpower. even better when you get great cause then you get team attacks.
the only one i always hated was grendizer and i think cause base grendizer is shitty cause your supposed to combine him with one of the support machines but fuck wasting two slots.

>>13546773
The best game or the best translation?
'Cause if it's the latter, oh boy. Maybe SRW1 because there's not as much stuff to get wrong.

>>13547805
>FORTUNATELY, it does upgrade into a four pilot unit later (with no other actual upgrade, but the fourth pilot is quite nice)
I only noticed it got a 4th pilot like... 2 stages before the ending or so? Maybe she joined earlier than that but "way too late" anyway.

Not to mention I don't think she really offered anything relevant to the table... relevant being "Strike", "Iron Wall" or "Valor"

>>13547683
alpha gaiden because those fucking bergelmirs take for fucking ever. made me quit the game for months.

>>13546774
Planes.

>>13547683
>4 hours
Someone plays with the animations off. Us animationfags are lucky to get a single medium sized stage in per day.

>there will never be a SRW Infinite Versus but with actual robots instead of shitty OG shit

>>13547860
Well no shit, I'm not about to watch Mega Graviton Wave ten times per enemy phase

>>13547860
Or you're playing a classic era game with NO ANIMATION SKIPS WHATSOEVER
Of course, "Animation" is a very generous use of the word in this instance

>>13547805
Kid friendly in Japan isn't kid friendly in America. Last time I read Naruto it was worse than that, and that's also a comic for kids.

>>13547855
>Not liking the F-32V in OG1
Such pleb taste

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Okay, here's a neat one (hope this one ain't been asked in a while)
What is your favourite attack? That one special move you hope to Terada that they not only put into the game, but animate and score properly.

Mine is webm related, especially if it comes with the proper music.
I'm a sucker for the ramming speed schtick.

I've heard that Sirbine and Bilbine have a combo attack in SRW 64, AND you can save Todd in it.
If this is true, I am willing to sit through all of 64 and rip the music out of the game to upload it.
>>13547881
HYPER AURA GIRI

>>13547889
What, is Todd your Husbando or something?

>>13547889
Speaking of SRW64, is Project 64 the only viable way to play it?
Does it even work all the way through?
Or is there some newfangled N64 emu out there I don't know about?

>>13547896
In many ways, I can emphasize with Todd. He was just some poor schmuck who got outclassed at every turn, got fed up with it, and was very close to reason before he died a rather absurd death.
I really feel as if, both he AND Burn were indeed capable of redemption.
Not to mention AMERICAN PRIDE.
>>13547899
I barely even know how the emulators I use work.

>>13547905
"We will spare the city of Chicago out of respect to Todd Guinness".

>>13547899
pj64 worked for me playing through srw64. I dont remember any hangups either. worked fine. i even figured how to get the gb link to work so i could get secret units.

>>13547930
>i even figured how to get the gb link to work so i could get secret units.
any wizardry involved or is it a pretty straight forward endeavour?

>>13547922
A M E R I C A N P R I D E

>>13547933
you get the link battler rom. cheat to get the units unlocked in that game and then you link the rom with save that has those units. you will need a gameboy emu of course. you can get f91, vagina ghina, zambot and one other unit that slips my mind

>>13547946
The last one was UCHUU SPACE NUMBAH WAN, wasn't it?

>>13547946
>>13547969
Yep. Seabrook/Cecily in F91/Vigna Ghina was one of the three, Kappei/Uchuta/Keiko in Zambot 3 was another (AND IT'S THE ONLY GAME IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING FRANCHISE WHERE ZAMBOT CAN SPLIT), and the last was the Goshogun team who's names escape me in Goshogun.

Zambot has a combo with Daitarn, which has a DK and looks rather cool considering it's barely animated.

MOTHERFUCKER

>blackhole kills and money into Kio and pirateman
>FIND OUT I FORGOT A STEP EARLIER IN THE RUN SO NO ZEHEART FOR ME

At least I got the Jovians

Also who is that orbital frame looking bastard in the AGE finale, he wouldn't die

Oh hey, apparently X-O is running a Perfect Strike Gundam event.

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>>13548078
I said it before and I'll say it again.

Do it for him guys.

So, /srwg/ I want to get into these games(language barrier is not a problem) what's the best starting point?

>>13548191
If you can read moon, then probably OGs or Z1 on the PS2

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I've been inspired. I'm gonna finally play srw64.
Hope I can slug through it. Should be a nice change of pace from Z3. . .

What an interesting assortment of characters we have here. I wonder what proto-Shadow Mirror unit I should pick?
I'm leaning toward either of the girls really. I kinda dig the uh, pre-Angelg and the pre-Laz Angriff (I can't recall their proper names)

>>13548206
Pick Manami (Female Super Pilot), she's the best 64 character.

>(I can't recall their proper names)

Simurgh and Svanhild.

>>13548206
>Bottom right
... Zebra dreads?

>>13548191
Finding something with robots you like is a good start.

>(language barrier is not a problem)
It may be, because the true fun of most SRWs is in the plot. They aren't very challenging games.

>>13548206
Just don't pick male Super. His machine's good statwise - hell, even the preupgrade one has solid stats, because they have to expect that some people will go for the combo - but getting his rival is an exercise in frustration and locks out Super Earthgain, and his mechs have the obvious issue of having ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING AT RANGE.

>>13548213
Since I hear this game is heavy with Wing plot I was seriously considering going full ELEGANCE anyway.
>I have a butler
>I am acquainted with Banjo Haran
this is going to be good
>>13548216
Yes, Zebra dreads.

>>13548226
You made the best choice anon, have fun.

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>>13548213
>>13548231
I regret nothing.
Now if only I could figure out how to jury-rig the emulator to run just a wee bit smoother . . .

>>13547881
Any of those Open Get attacks that Jigoku was missing 2 of.

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>>13548241
fuck yeah

>>13548191
Always go with release order.

>>13547881
Twin Valkyrie Maneuver. ;_;

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>>13548206
Is bottom right Vulcano Rosso's brother?

I thought 4chan was down for a moment, couldn't see the captchas at all no matter what I did, turns out Google was down and there's lots of police around here.
I'm a bit scared actually, with all the stuff that is happening here in Europe. If you don't get my Jonouchi videos know that I died fighting for freedom on my mech.

>>13548206
In terms of usability its
Female Super > Male Real > Female Real > Male Super

>>13548244
>those grabby, rapey hands at the end
How problematic.

>>13548235
Onwards my friend, everyone must taste the power of eleganceness.

>>13548218
The male super has the strongest attack of the game capable of oneshotting every single boss (without dummies) in the game.

>>13548235
Hypnotic Boob Rings only works on /m/ Denizens

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>>13548259

>>13548254
More like

Male Super > Male Real > Female Super > Female Real

>>13548206
It's worth noting 64 has fucking metric SHIT TON of secrets, like even with all the in game secrets there are still even more secret cameo units you could get through the link battler feature. Unfortunately you need a special saves to import those into the game, F91 Gundam, Zambot 3 and Goshogun are only obtainable this way.

When it comes to theme songs at least the male and female reals (Arklight and Selain) probably have the best themes.

Also 64 in general is up there for one of the best SRW soundtracks, it had some pretty fantastic mixes. It also had karaoke mode so another thumbs up for 64.

https://youtu.be/61lgUtp1cc4
https://youtu.be/n4IQXjzhgS8
https://youtu.be/nIXHirBXiuA

64 also had a pretty awesome main theme song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaR7_bF9Nzc

>>13548274
>mecha with poofy dresses
Why isn't this a thing

>>13548283
Your taste is bad and you should feel bad.

>>13548270
The combo, or Super's finisher? Because while I can see the combo being that good and him being that strong in single battles is nice and all, it's a one pilot Super in the Winkysoft era in a game where lategame bosses have get out of jail free cards that has absolutely no mook killing ability because HOLY SHIT THAT FUCKING RANGE.

>>13548283
More like

Elegance > Everyone else

>>13548270
You know that one shotting bosses in 64 isn't particularly hard for the Super originals right? Since they all have Soul and fairly high base powers on their finishers.

>>13548270
Even if he did, that doesn't make up for having no range at all.

>>13548295
>>13548300
I suppose you could always keep him in the back and use the rest of your army until it's time for him to Sucker Punch the boss in the face.

In theory anyway.

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I have a terrible feeling I can't cheat my way to having the pilots/robots unlocked for the transfer.
I guess I need to grind Link Battler for a bit.

>>13548298
The combo of the male super and his rival goes up to 9920 power (with both finishers maxed). The female super's finisher only goes to 6000 power.

>>13548304
The problem with THAT is that it's the Winkysoft era, and the only way to gain Will is basically to kill things.


Also, remember that this is a combo, meaning you have to field TWO mechs that have fuck all range and have to get their Will boosted for their one big trick.

>>13548315
+1 Morale to all members for killing enemies not in Winkysoft era games?

OK, scratch that plan I guess.

(Unless there are a lot of characters with Morale boosting spirits... if those are in 64.)

>>13548312
And?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpFWW6Q_dLI

>>13548319
It is, although I seem to remember some people not even getting that in certain games. Probably not the case there.

Of course, the problem with that is that the enemies will gain Will at the same rate, and that causes the problem of you having to get the Supers in range for their attack without them being picked off. But hey, they get Double Move fairly early for Super pilots, so I guess there's help in that regard... doesn't help take out the fucking dummies, but still! It's something.

The real problem is, of course, you're trading various people who have bullshit MAPs, ridiculous power in all regards, and whatever else to get two guys who's big trick is killing a boss in one move when you can just have Dancouga/Shin Getter double team every boss for the same result on every route. (And yeah, they have a MAP of their own, but it's shit too)

>>13548321
Oh wow, that's actually a pretty cool DK considering the era.

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>>13548321
Best OGs.

>>13548326
Its worth noting that the final battle is pretty annoying since its just you against the 3 OG villains without any mooks for fodder. I think they all revive at once as well.

>>13548328
Angelg Splendid fucking when?

>>13548306
Just use the completed save you nerd.
Or is that not working anymore?

>>13548359
The link from akurasu leads to nothing

>>13548372
Oh god damn it.

>>13548340
At least it would make the Angelg useful for once.

>>13548284
>Unfortunately you need a special saves to import those into the game, F91 Gundam, Zambot 3 and Goshogun are only obtainable this way.

Anon, didn't you know we made a workaround for that:
http://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars/64/Link_Battler_Units


I edited Akurasu, do I get my news now?

>>13548375
>>13548372

>>13548387
Updated the link, hopefully it works

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>>13548390
You are beautiful, you know that?
Muy bueno.

>>13548399
Better wait with the Link Battler units until you have at least won the first battle against Avi Ru.

The Link Battler are signifacntly stronger than any of the early game units so they ruin the balancing.

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>>13548399
I do what I can, and keeping the Link Battler units available to everyone is what I can do.

Enjoy yourself anon!

I wish I knew how to do the Link the OTHER way round so I can get my Main Character Unit into Link Battler.

>>13548406
I will use them sparingly then

>>13548426
That I can't help you with, I just played LB long enough to hack all the units into the save in order to make the 64 link bonus save.

>>13548390
>>13548387
>>13548407
You. Yes you. Stop being beautiful, useful and SEIGI, you're too good for this thread.

Go back to being the most moe rider.

>>13546774
00 units in Z3 because they really felt underpowered as fuck

>>13548484
Aren't the Wing units even worse?

>>13548406
Zambot is kind of mediocre early on, Goshogun is above average.

The real early game breakers are the F91 pair.

>>13548578
I hear the Vigna Ghina falls off actually, but is Cecily worth giving a better suit later in the game?

>>13548495
Not Wing Zero

>>13548585
Heavyarms and Tallgeese are actually decent too, it's the other three who have a horrible time.

>>13548590
Was there a game where Heavyarms was bad? It's always one of the best Wing units, if not the best.

>>13548615
Compact because no double movement for any of the Wing pilots.

>>13548584
The best pilots are any pair with a love bonus. Reason being that love bonuses in 64 are solid.

Of course the girl has to be a decent pilot which is why you might see someone doing Judau/Roux, Seabrook/Cecilly over say Kamille/Fa. Likewise with Kouji/Maria over Kouji/Sayaka.

>>13548628
So what would be a good upgrade for Cecily?

>>13548638
Any late UC mech.

Like say the MP Nu ver Funnel or the Nu proper.

>>13548656
>Any late UC mech.
>Vigna Ghina was produced even later in the timeline
They sure don't make them like they used to, fucking space China manufacturing.

>>13548667
Funnel technology went kaput I guess.

>>13547575
Anybody know? I know OE isn't a mainline game so you guys probably don't care but it seems strange they would pull a digital only game with very little reason.

>>13548918
>I know OE isn't a mainline game so you guys probably don't care
That... isn't the reason no one talks about OE.

>>13548934
Don't we already have all of OE including DLC in a torrent anyway?

>>13548918
>OE isn't a mainline game so you guys probably don't care
I...what? That isn't even remotely accurate, we don't ignore a game just because its a spinoff and also OE is technically a main series title no matter how much we pretend it isn't.

We don't talk about it because it is hands down awful game beyond belief with little next to no redeeming features and coincidentally also the worst performing SRW game ever.

>>13548946
Maybe he's one of those people who's a stickler for legality.

>>13548969
No, it's not just that, I'm just curious if this is like what happened with marvel 3 where deals fall out and they have to pull the game.

How are the Wing Gundams in Hakai?

>>13548978
I dunno. There's nothing obvious that stands out so it's a mystery to all.

>>13549004
They're like early game Gundams. Except they stay like that the whole game since you don't get their upgrades until Saisei.

>>13549043
Thanks Banpresto for your dumb "two split half games" decision!

>>13549054
Not even all that much happens in Hakai. You get:
-First arc of GL (up to the Lordgenome fight)
-All of Dai-guard
-All of Dancougar Nova
-Not that much Frontier
-First seasons of Geass and 00
-Armageddon flashback period where Musashi's not dead
-First arc of Votoms and then Pailsen Files as a flashback
-Some amount of Godmars
-First 17-18 episodes of Wing
-Bits of original plot, although I think only one bad guy dies.
-Eureka Seven movie

This is all covered in 50 stages, but there's route splits.

>>13549043
Alright then, that's fine with me.

>>13549004
i prefer the wing tv units in z2 to the EW units in z3. deathscythe hell custom has his worst moveset ever in this game. he should have had a real finisher. WZC lost a map. and the units available is so bloated i hardly can use any of them.

>>13548960
I know we all love to hate OE, but
>little next to no redeeming features
is just blatantly untrue.

There were plenty of things that OE did a wonderful job with. Sure, it also had a number of issues which completely ruined it, but that doesn't discount the substantial number of things it did quite well.

>>13548430
srw 64 aint that easy. use em.
seabook ended up one of my most reliable units.

>>13549214
Well, he did say "little"

Here's me giving it some credit -

-The animations were improved since NEO

-The basic system is an improvement where the weapon properties are on paper a bit more balanced than their NEO versions though in practice the huge HP bloat means you only really care about a few.

- The squad system is interesting to group up units that usually wouldn't get solo usage but this is marred by the Squad limit (which might be a technical thing) and "forced solo squad units" missions

It's ripe for a game that takes its engine and does it right next time, but I worry that OE bombing will scare them off the idea of making a sequel to its concepts

>>13549216
There's also the fact that early on you'll be using units that you most likely won't hold on to by either the endgame or just outright lose like Quattro so it would be best to invest on things you can probably use in the endgame like the F91 and Zambot/Daitarn

>>13549216
Only the early stages have some difficulty. Like 'that stage' where you lose 30 will.

>>13549214
>>13549230
>but that doesn't discount the substantial number of things it did quite well.
But they DID.

It had little redeeming features because almost any minor positives it had were DIRECTLY negated by another problem. With that said....

>The animations were improved since NEO
By making all the finishers obviously pre-recorded non-AA'd videos rather than real time attack animations, there isn't even a point in using 3D models. Hell the Powered Natsumi attack is literally just one huge cut-in.

The other 'good' points are already elaborated on.

>>13548626
...Except Heavyarms is fucking amazing in Compact 1, and it's the best of them in Compact 3.

Did you forget its 2-5 P 20 ammo finisher?

>>13548960
Now that's a bit much. OE was terrible, but it did things right too.

>>13548626
I can account for Heavyarms being one of the more useful units in Compact. It's got a post movement ranged finisher, and while it doesn't get the liberty of double move, it takes a while for a lot of your non Gundam pilots (and by a while I mean I'm fucking 4 missions from the end of the game with no Double Move for Daba) to get it.
>>13549433
Say, Matt, aren't I supposed to get the Auge after that mission? Am I doing something wrong or is it just bad RNG?

>>13549433
>OE was terrible, but it did things right too.
Did you even manage to finish the game? I seem to remember even you couldn't bring yourself to finish it yet finished most of 'those' other SRW's.

The worst performing thing is unarguable though, it was one of those few downloadable games which actually has sales figures to it's name. It didn't even break like 2k I remember.

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>>13548340
Angelg Ascended, surely?

>>13549532
Angelg Shinka

>>13549491
It's not RNG. The CCA stage gives you a unit after it, no matter what.

Not sure what you did wrong in this case.

>>13549515
>I seem to remember even you couldn't bring yourself to finish it

Less that, more that I haven't gotten around to finishing it yet. I'm on Chapter 6, my main issue is I have to record everything for Akurasu use and that takes a lot of time, and when I'm playing OE I don't want to be writing shit, I'd rather be playing a game.

I do really want to finish it though, if only to pull out Genobreaker and Ultrasaurus.

>>13549515
>Matt
>Finishing games

>>13549570
I did the L-Gaim stage first, was I supposed to do the other stage first?

>>13549640
Oh, there's your thing.

The CCA STAGE is the one that hands out the secret unit.

So on cross omega I am having a 4113000 error, is it really due to bad connection or is it region lock?

>>13549537
Don't you mean Apotheosized Angelg?

>>13549646
So it hands out the secret on the other stage, which changes depending on whether or not I picked that stage first?

>>13549657
Each stage has a stage reward. The CCA stage will either hand you a Jagd Doga, or an Auge. That's how it works.

Neither of them is particularly great, the Auge being somewhat better than L-Gaim Mk 2 in exchange for not having a MAP and the Jagd Doga suffering from "it's not Quin Mantha/Alpha Aizeru/Neue Ziel/F91/Nu/Sazabi/GP-02P/whatever else" syndrome. The big secrets on each stage are Quess and her Alpha Aizeru, which is fucking amazing, and Full Flat, who's the best L-Gaim pilot easily. (then Gablet Gablae, then Daba)

>>13549154
Deathscythe Hell Custom, along with the Sandrock Kai, always get the short stick when it comes to their EW versions. Altron is either the same, or actually alright, depending on the game.

Meanwhile, the Wing Zero Custom and the Heavyarms Kai are always the ones who get the most attacks, and thus are the most "complete" units, compared to the rest.

>>13549673
>for not having a MAP
Yeah, what a fucking tragedy.

Does Knight Alex get any special lines against enemies?

>>13549673
I got Full Flat, I was just wondering if I was supposed to get the Auge on that same stage or another
>If you play 6-3 first of the two selects, you will get the Jagd Doga (a Mobile Suit.) If you play it second, you will instead get the Auge (a Heavy Metal)
Now it makes more sense in context

>>13549720
According to the BX wiki, all the SD Gundam guys get special lines against a ton of enemy types, in and out of their own series.

UX and BX were pretty good about extra dialogue in general, like how pretty much everyone gets some kind of special line against ELS.

>>13549708
That's true, but considering how strong the two L-Gaim MAPs are and the fact that Full Flat/Gablet Gablae get Double Move for the last few stages, a MAP can be a pretty useful thing to have.

The real issue it has is that it comes really late in the game and isn't absurdly fucking broken like Alph.

>>13549733
>UX and BX were pretty good about extra dialogue in general

They really, really were.

Only thing I wish they did was give all the battleship captains support lines with each other, since they have a tendency to get into situations where those would be useful.

>>13549760
Which wiki had the special quote list again?

>>13549765
http://www9.atwiki.jp/srwbx/pages/67.html

Here you go. Note that this is just the section for allies attacking enemies, there's sections for other sets of lines, I haven't looked to see how complete they seem, though.

>>13549733
It took me until the stage where you fight the Zonuda to realize just how much there is. Practically every main character is all WE'LL SAVE YOU MIKOTO and that impressed me quite a bit.

>>13549776
Oh yeah, I forgot that.

It wasn't even just the main characters, too, some of the side characters used lines I never heard or saw elsewhere.

By the way, Matt. Does this mean I should put Full Flat in the L-Gaim instead of Daba?

>>13549796
A good example of that would be Marvel and Nii from Dunbine. I find it interesting how UX and BX had an interesting reversal; UX got new lines for Shou but not for Marvel, BX did the opposite.

>>13549809
If you are trying to be as efficient as possible, yes. If you just like Daba, then no.

They both WORK, it's just she's better.

>>13549004
>>13549043
I'd say Deathscythe is only slightly worse than Guren. Didn't bother much with the rest.

Wing Zero is fucking hilarious in Saisei though.

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Maybe there's something I'm not reading right, but what makes Full Flat better than Daba, anyway?

>>13549861
Heavyarms is pretty much the same as Kai outside of damage upgrades, I honestly can't remember if Kai was any different from regular Heavyarms in Z2

>>13549818
>I find it interesting how UX and BX had an interesting reversal; UX got new lines for Shou but not for Marvel, BX did the opposite.

More like "every game since like Alpha 1 had new lines for Shou but not Marvel, and BX did the opposite" Seriously, the amount of time she was running on no new lines at all was fucking immense.

>>13549873
Double Move. And a better Melee stat to use the Beam Sword with, but mainly Double Move.

>>13549873
>Level 42
>150 Shooting
...geez.

>>13549882
I didn't have much room for the other Wing boys but Heavyarms and Nataku seemed alright

Oh yeah, and while Deathscythe might not be able to hit as hard as Guren, between Duo's Ace and Deathscythe's FUB it can get a pretty high crit rate. And Duo gets enough SP to cast Confuse like four times even before counting SP Get, so your whole team is basically untouchable as long as he's around.

>>13549889
Shit, does Daba never learn Double Move within the natural course of the game?
>>13549898
It's certainly effective for all the damage he shits out.
If it was any higher, there'd be no reason to deploy anything but L-Gaim.

>>13549920
Gamefags says that Daba learns double move with level 45.

>>13549889
I was under the impression Shou had been coasting off of old lines since the Classic/Alpha 1 days and that UX was his first time getting anything new.

But then again, for some reason I'm always surprised when something/someone that's already been used gets new stuff. Shou, the Tobikage people, Noriko in Z3, Nadesico in BX...

>>13549920
>Shit, does Daba never learn Double Move within the natural course of the game?

Level 45. The mooks in the final level are level 44, so it's POSSIBLE to reach that, but Full Flat already has it so why bother.

>>13549941
I'm fairly certain he got new lines in Impact, if not that many.

>the Tobikage people

It wasn't so odd in their case, they had ONE GAME worth of lines and UX used a lot more people from Tobikage.

Would Banpresto think of including all the obscure Mazingers in a srw as a condolence to Nagai's death?

>>13549978
Not if they suddenly get expensive after he dies.

>>13549978
Nagai died?
Did he leave a robot for his grandson?

>>13549991
Don't even joke about that

>>13547819
can't wait for someone to go through all 50,000 lines in a given modern srw script to meticulously find everything "wrong"

>>13549978
Son of a bitch, I thought for a second you were trying to brush off that he had died.

In an answer to your question, probably not.

>>13549991
Dynamic Pro probably wouldn't do that.

Probably.

Now that Frozen Teardrop has finished, SRW appearance when?

>>13549936
>>13549955
Well.
Tough choice here.

>>13550003
Soooo did we ever get to actually see the Gundams? How retarded did it get?

>>13550011
"YOUR SIGHT, MY DELIGHT
--------------------------------------------------------------WILL YOU MARRY ME?"

>>13550011
>How retarded did it get?

You'll laugh at how it ended.

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I'm fucking baffled
How are they doing CCA plot
if Char's on our side
Unless he does some retarded shit like betraying us this late into the game

>>13550011
>Soooo did we ever get to actually see the Gundams?

I can't find shit on 'em, Captian.

>>13550026
Considering he does it in 64 and Impact/Compact 2 don't be surprised.

This is why I prefer to bench Quattro in 64 for anyone from LB.

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>>13550033
spoilers
Well, at least in this game, it's this fucker behind it apparently
And Quattro is surprised to see ANY of this happening right now.
Which makes sense considering we're literally in the middle of interplanetary war.

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That EN cost is horrible, but not paralysing.
But because of Saisei, Altron became one of my favourite Gundams.

>>13550037
Ah, I thought Char being the final boss in Compact/Impact was common knowledge, I can understand it not being known about in 64.

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I miss him already ;_;

>>13550037
Glemmy's a fucking idiot, like always.

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Shit Gyunei what are you doing here
>>13550042
That's mainly on me. After all, I'm still rather new to this franchise, but don't worry about it
Thanks for the heads up though

>>13550026
CCA's plot is done all the fucking time while Char is on your side, though in C2/Impact and 64 he betrays you (taking Gato with him) and in Alpha 2 he never joins and does it after two games of being on your side, so.

>>13550049
>I'm still rather new to this franchise

I forgot you were the first newfriend, now your name makes sense.

You I just realized that I don't know the cast list to srw64.
hmm

Dunbine
Layzner
Combattler V
Dancouga
Getter Robo
Giant Robo
GoShogun
Daitarn 3
Zambot 3
Mazinger
Great Mazinger
Grendizer
Gundam 0079
08th MS Team
Gundam 0083
Zeta Gundam
ZZ
CCA
Gundam F91
G Gundam
Gundam Wing
Godmars

oh wow, I bet this is gonna be a big game

>>13550026
>How are they doing CCA plot
if Char's on our side

It's not that uncommon. In SRW A, Vindel starts the Axis Drop, but A is a strange game for the early UC Gundam.

Then we get things like D where Char and Treize team up, manage to do the Axis Drop only to see the Earth vanish in front of their eyes. And this is in the prologue.

>>13550058
>Goshogun
>Zambot
>F91

Aren't actually on the cast list, they're effectively DLC.

It is a very large game though. (You forgot Getter Robo G and Shin Getter Robo on your cast list for what that matters for)

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On this map we have:
Heavy Metal L-Gaim (top left corner)
Char's Counterattack (bottom left corner)
ZZ Gundam (bottom right corner)
>>13550047
Of course.
>>13550050
Char sounds like a fucking retard in a lot of these games.
>>13550054
It happens. All good though.
>>13550061
I look forward to those games.

>>13550058
Some of that stuff you're not going to see for quite a while. And 8th MS Team is still just Shiro+Aina with the Ez8 not being a spacefaring unit. You get quite a lot of units that aren't worth it for the endgame, and what happens with the final stage is you have three bosses and NO GRUNTS that you have to kill twice so you're basically only going to use multi-pilot supers and people with Rally.

>>13550070
Can't the female super oneshot the final boss?

>>13550065
I lumped all the Getters into one line, huh, should have been a G/Shin on the end of it . . .

>>13550070
>You get quite a lot of units that aren't worth it for the endgame
I mean "you start with quite a lot (etc)". And 64 has that assfuck-retarded "balance" of variable-upgrade amounts, so shit's all fucking topsy-turvy with what's good and what's not, but what's good also requires a fuck of a lot more money. Also, the game has level-scaling.

>>13550067
The only games were CCA Char wasn't a retard were D and Z3.

>>13550073
Fuck if I know. I only ever beat the game with Arklight and a 15-upgrade code which I can't find anymore.

Can you do the FDS with Maria in Great Mazinger in 64?

>>13550073
Simurgh Splendid is a multipilot super.

aaaa I just noticed the Gundams still have their little "SD eyes" here in 64.
Also the stage music is catchy.

>>13550091
>Can you do the FDS with Maria in Great Mazinger in 64?

IIRC FDS is locked to the original pilots, but as for the other combos... well, I'll let Akurasu explain.

>The Mazinger units may be piloted by other Mazinger pilot pairs other than Kouji and Tetsuya. The pairs are: Kouji with Sayaka, Boss, Tetsuya, or Maria, Tetsuya with Jun, Sayaka with Boss, Jun with Boss, and Maria with Hikaru.
>Grendizer needs to be piloted by Duke in order to do any combo attacks.

(although, I forget if 64 let Maria or anyone else pilot Grendizer. I know Impact let her pilot it, but there's little point, the only reason you'd ever use Grendizer is because Duke is stuck in it and he has Soul)

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>>13550105

>>13550112
Motherfucker, you beat me by a few seconds.

>>13550105
GUNDAMS WITH EYES stopped being a thing on TV consoles in @1, and it's not in the GBA games, but Compact 1 (not Color iirc) and 2 have it.

>>13550112
>>13550119
I'm just saying, F91 looks kinda cute here.

Also Zambot 3 starts with the Ion Cannon, that seems unfair to have at this point.

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Anyway, Quess, but not Gyunei can be convinced.
I can't wait to play as Gyunei in other games just for the hilarity factor. I have a thing for playing as villains in games.
>>13550119
I can verify that Compact has it, and it's a little disturbing on some of them

>>13550126
It also gets Combination Crash with Daitarn if I remember correctly.

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Did... did the Fin Funnel range on the Nu INCREASE?
It doesn't have any parts on it, what the fuck?

>>13550137
Some games the range of funnels go up with the pilots NT score.

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>>13550119
I made the picture, I am fully allowed to post it first.

>in @1

Though I seem to remember the opening having them.

Not like anyone cares about the Alpha 1 Opening because it looks kind of... uh, like this, but it is there.

>>13550133
Yep. Really goddamn strong, too. Especially since Banjo starts with fucking Hot Blood and four other spirits.

>>13550137
Amuro's Newtype level must have gone up.

>>13550128
Then go for D or 64. In the D you get to play with CCA Char, Quees, Gyunei and TV Zechs. Char leaves for a little while and comes back, also Treize joins.

In 64 you can choose to join OZ, and Wufei rejects that idea so much he finds his justice in Emperor Zuul.

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Nice knowing you for all of one stage, Gyunei.
>>13550144
Well, he is like level 7 right now, or something like that. That's pretty neat.

>>13550133
Which is the only thing that makes those two worth using since they're low-upgrade-number units so their solo finishers are weaker than they should be.

Can you even use it twice without needing an EN refill if both have max EN?

>>13550150
>that spoiler
ha ha haaa ha haaa

>>13550128
IIRC you can only play as Goonie Gus in Z3-2 and D.

>>13550150
>second spoiler

To be fair, brainwashing was involved.

>>13550153
I am fairly certain both have more than 120 EN at max, so yes. Invincible Combination costs 60 for them.

>>13546774
The Gundam

>>13550164
>60 EN on a combo attack in the Classic Era
WHAT THE FUCK

>>13550166
You know, I also tend to ignore the RX-78-2 in most games.

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QUESS AND HER UNIT
THREE STAGES FROM THE END OF THE GAME
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL A LATEGAME UNIT
>>13550149
Yeah, Amuro's pretty absurd at this point.
>>13550150
I'd go for 64, but, well, someone else is playing it. I don't like intervening in those cases, it causes confusion.
>>13550164
I may very well consider putting D higher up on my queue.

>>13550171
Twin Aura Giri costs 40 on two units. Double Mazinger Blade and Triple Mazinger Punch don't seem to have any cost. Double Burning Fire costs 60. Most of the rest cost 80, except Shuffle Doumei Ken, which costs 100 (but it's the average of 5 finishers x1.9 so it's going to hurt like a fucking bitch)

The enemy combos all cost 30, if they count.


Combos costing that much in the Classic Era isn't odd because aside from 64, no game in the Classic Era has combos. First after it was A, which was post-Alpha Gaiden and well post-Classic, and Alpha DC, which had a whole shitton of combos and I doubt all of them were ludicrously expensive.

JOSH AND GYUNEI
FRIENDS FOR NO REASON

>>13550173
Yeah, but the Alph is fucking absurd. Look at that finisher strength, and it's unupgraded! It's the strongest UC finisher in the game that doesn't have the word "nuclear" in it.

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Are there even subs out for Goshogun?
I see it now and again in srw, but I have never seen the show proper.
But man, 64's version of it's OP theme is pretty good.

>>13550188
>Are there even subs out for Goshogun?

There are subs for I think five episodes, but other than that, no.

Note that if you fully upgrade Goflasher, you get the Goflasher MAP (Which might be Goflasher Special? Dunno), and it's apparently quite good.