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>Extra Money Edition.

Or more precisely,

>What will be the next car Edition
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I'd like to get to the bottom of this
>>13458430
>>13458424
So you mean the 'boom, boomboom boom' section is too early? It sounds like it comes at the same time in both youtube videos, just slightly different pitch due to the compression.
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Lambo veneno, just look at all those air vents right up muv-luv valley.
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>>13458521
I'm afraid 355 444 dollars will not be enough for this one.

She is gorgeous and totally in the ML design

When the Mechas will arise, will Lamborghini participate in the design development ? That would be awesome.
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>>13458573
>When the Mechas will arise, will Lamborghini participate in the design development
Oh good fucking god, the idea, it's glorious
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Anyone still got contact with the team?
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>>13458717
You can always reach them on Twitter, or on the community forum if you want.

Why do you ask ?
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>>13458733
I'd like to know if the codex will be going up on the market.
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>>13458848
I think that has been already stated that for now, there is no plan for a release outside of the KS, but they will think about it.

But feel free to ask them if they have news.
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Never built a kotobukiya model before, how fragile is the 1/144 Takemikazuchi?
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>>13458855
All I have is a KS account, and I'd much rather not have to get involved in social media for the express purpose of asking a question.
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>>13458868
>1/144
Easy as, as long as you dont have fat fingers
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>>13458868
I have a berkut and a black widow, so I can't say much about a takemikazuchi but, the weakest part of these models is the "skirt" and where the jump units connecting arm to said skirt.

other than that they're pretty sturdy, if a little stiff.
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>>13458513
> just slightly different pitch due to the compression.
If by compression you mean that of youtube's, definitely no.
I used the onboard soundcard to record the thing, but the laptop I used for it was new at the time (recorded on Audacity from Stereo Mix with the game playing, voices and all other sounds muted except for the BGM). I did the verification of the glitch on Alt's Win7 version on a separate computer (also new). KimiNozo guy got that track from me at >>>>7980510. Have my upload:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/256o1787i9npu09/Meiya+~extended~.rar
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>>13458855
>there is no plan for a release outside of the KS, but they will think about it

That means no. FML...
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>>13458908
Have you ripped the Stand A Chance pastiche yet?
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>>13458924
I tried to, but
>Audacity not yet working on Windows 10
FML.
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>>13458928
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-!
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So... what do we do now?

Also, although I'm immensity satisfied with my Takemikazuchi reward, I am gonna regret not getting that TSF Pilot Jacket and BETA Hoodie, They're both pretty cool. And at least I'd be able to outfit the Pilot Jacket with all the patches and Medallion you get from Yuuko's Gift Bag.

Any idea when and where they'll be selling them normally? I seem to remember on the FAQ it saying that their legitimate products and are sold through an legitimate clothing line.
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>>13458945
They 'used' to be sold at most of the online anime stores, but Muv Luv is old now and production stopped ages ago.
Who knows if shops are going to restock from this latest production run
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>>13458930
If it's any consolation and the track doesn't come out officially on the Master OST bundle, and if dem Audacity devs can get it working on Windows 10 before that time, I can record the thing when Unlimited comes out this March.
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>>13458964
Please don't forget like the LAST guy who said he'd do it.
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>>13458968
I think that was me actually. Audacity didn't like my Win8, and then later Win10 machines very much. Meiya ~extended~ got Audacity'd on a Win7 machine of mine that's now kaput.

polite selfsage for blogshit
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>>13458990
My bad...
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>>13459009
No worries mate.
In other news backer rewards will apparently take around 30-40% of the 1.25M (If they can resolve all of those pledging errors, that is).
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>>13459051
>If they can resolve all of those pledging errors, that is
I really hope this doesn't take a huge chunk of the pledges away. It would especially suck if we don't even get physical codex, but all of that extra money going towards the development and/or translation of something else sounded pretty cool. I'll stay optimistic and hope that we're still at least over a million, but we'll see.
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>>13459063
>Aside from Kickstarter + BackerKit + bank transfer + shipping costs, there are also quite a few errored pledges at the moment and the majority of our comrades belong to higher tiers. We hope to have all issues sorted out soon!
We'd better hope real hard then.
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>>13459063
How wide-spread was the problem? Mine had gone through no issue, but I saw the email put out to backers
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>>13459063
>>13459063
>>13459069
I wouldn't worry to much about the pledge issues. No way are they getting rid of Physical Codexes, thats literally one of the stretch goals. That'd be horseshit. I'm sure it'll work out somehow.

At least my charge went through, thank God. I'm literally a complete retard when it comes to financial stuff, and this was my first KS, so if anything went wrong I'd pretty much be screwed.
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>>13459091

I'm hoping we've built enough buffer so that we're still over the $900,000.
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>>13459070
I had the issue but I re-input my card info again and it work. I didn't even have to call the bank.
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I'm kinda disappointed they didn't have one of these tasteless hats as one of the backer rewards. Not nearly as disappointed as I am for having missed out on this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity...
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>>13459252
You can always buy them off Steam and where the fuck were you?
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>>13458908
Hmm, still not hearing any thing wrong. The way the bass comes in seems fine to me and not jarring, since it's a sharp change to indicate the end of the song. I can't really tell a difference from extended and normal versions too.
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>>13459308
>>13458908
Also, is the glitch present on both the OST you got and the game, or just the game?
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>>13459319
The regular Meiya doesn't have it, either on soundtrack or the game TL'd by Ammy. The extended version is unreleased officially and was ripped from the all-ages game's audio.
>>13459308
The thing's a bit difficult to explain without going into some musical analysis like intervals and the like, but basically in that section of Meiya the piece is "anchored" on the F# minor key, and the chord progression goes D - C#-sus - G then ends on F# minor in the regular version with the violins holding onto a high F# note all the while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9fvnSkSC90#t=3m59s
What happens in ~extended~ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbzHGbqRq9c#t=7m52s) is that the same sequence goes D - C#-sus with added G tone by timpani - G - F# minor (with the violins still doing their thing on the high F#). That timpani with the G not just forms a tone cluster with the F# and G# notes from the C#-sus (which may or may not be bad, depending on where you stand in modern Western classical music), but its volume overpowers the other two tones and changes the chord pattern at that particular moment badly in my opinion.
Anyway most players might not even hear it at that point in the game as Takeru was going "Nngggggggggh... FUUUUUCK!" at that time.
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>>13459387
I really, REALLY hope they will release the extended version on the new OST release. It's one of my favorite songs from MLA.
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>>13459389
Same here. I watched a youtube video of the all-ages version of that sequence before the TL patch got leaked, and I didn't find that scene dragging primarily due to that track. When later I got to the matching sequence in Ammy's release I found that the regular Meiya version before minute 3:16 was looping using fade-out and fade-in and the scene felt more dragging. No Takeru letting out his scream in sync with the music building to 3:16 was a letdown too.
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>>13459387
What if it's an intentional clash done with the timpani?
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>>13459448
Maybe, but the volume of the timpani at that moment in the regular 'Meiya' is lower, so it doesn't come across as clashing but more of an indistinct drum sound in the background.
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彼らを信頼などしていない奪うだけのガキ
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>>13459468
>tonally - indistinct drum sound
fixed
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>>13459387
I guess it must be one of those things that musically inclined people will notice then. Otherwise it's cause I'm tone deaf.
I think that bass coming in when it did to mark the end was fitting though.
But in terms of them fixing it, I think it's quite unlikely if it's not something technical in nature.
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There is only one choice for the next itasha.
Unfortunately the new NSX looks like shit.
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>>13459543
>I guess it must be one of those things that musically inclined people will notice then.
Yeah, I guess too. Sorry for sperging out like that; I fell in love with that track the first time I heard it BGMing the climax of the Kashgar arc.
>But in terms of them fixing it, I think it's quite unlikely if it's not something technical in nature.
I've asked Gabgrave to pass the message on to age via Degica a while back, hope they respond.
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>>13459590
Also,
>I think that bass coming in when it did to mark the end was fitting though.
Very true, and I think it would sound even better if they either lowered or raised the pitch of that bass a little.
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>Isumi's last good bye
this is too much for me /m/
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>>13459774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO-VRaqxKI
You are now saluting Isumi-tai
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>>13459837
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In case anyone is interested:
>We're keeping a close eye on this thread.
Ideally, we'll be putting together 2-3 options and let you guys decide/vote on which you'd like to see happen the most.
>We want to be careful about promising too much in the way of more content/stories as the Muv-Luv team in Japan is fairly small (i.e. they can't work on a ton of projects at the same time). We'd hate to promise something and then not be able to deliver it for a long time.
>That being said, we are working on a faster way to get the English translations into the RUGP engine and ready for release (will hopefully have an update on this in 1-2 months). Once this is solved, and if there is enough interest from the community we can go full Steam ahead on bringing more Muv-Luv content and stories into English. I'd eventually like to get "caught up" and have all of the content that's available in Japanese also available in English.
http://community.muvluv.moe/index.php?/topic/65-300k-surplus-theories/&page=2#comment-1815
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What's a good price for a Kotobukiya Type 00c?
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>>13460086
oh thank you jesus and kouki
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>>13460086
Good to know they want to bring all the stories in English as much as we do.

I missed this info from the forum, too many people are posting and I can't keep up with them. I'm getting too old for this. Thanks for sharing.
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>>13460086
Looks like there's actually a reason to visit those forums now.
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>Aside from Kickstarter + BackerKit + bank transfer + shipping costs, there are also quite a few errored pledges at the moment and the majority of our comrades belong to higher tiers. We hope to have all issues sorted out soon!

>Mfw all of them are trolls with false bank information so they could pledge as much as they wanted to, and we jump down by a lot.
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>>13460380
what expression is this face trying to convey?
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>>13460399
Anger. Hate. Suprise. Sadness

What a wonderful multifunction face.
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>>13458521
I think he'll just buy a slightly used 2005 Corolla, and have some otaku mechanics go mad on it, to create the most painful Hair Intakes known to man.
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>>13460399
Disdain for Cornelia spammers.
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>>13460380
I told you guys we would.
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>>13460353
>>13460370
Hopefully all /m/en who happen to have accounts there would vote in more /m/ stuff.
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>>13458908
why is this 61MB in size?
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>>13460657
320K mp3 + FLAC
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>>13460399
the disgusting for being fucked by Slutmika
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>>13460380
>tfw I had no money when pledging
>tfw when my paycheck is due in a week
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>>13460657
VAIRUS
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>>13460687
Should've pledged a dollar and upgraded via backerkit.
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>>13460692
I'm still in the game, got a 520$ pledge that is errored. I'm literally counting days until that fucking paycheck
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>>13458908
>>13460657
>>13460665
fuck this track, its majestic but yes, it comes with all those fucking feelings
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>>13460086
You still do anything with your KS account or is that no longer of any utility?
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>>13459590
Should've asked him to inquire as to why the Stand A Chance pastiche was omitted from the OST when every other musical pastiche was included.
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>>13460731
Forum and KS registrations are completely unconnected. I go by different names in the two.
>>13460736
The not-Fed Net march wasn't in too.
I didn't ask him, one because that timpani was an itch I can't scratch, and two, I thought I could still record the two pastiches at the time.
ONORE AWODASHITII DEVUZU
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>>13460086
I had wondered whether they would have the resources to add more stuff to MLA considering they are already behind on their original Schwarzesmarken planned release date.
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>>13460759
>Forum and KS registrations are completely unconnected.

So is that a yes or a no?
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>>13460814
I no longer do anything with my KS account except to lurk. Who knows, some other project may catch my fancy.
polite selfsage for blogshit
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>>13460814
>>13460829
You still need it to see the backer only updates, comment and overall do all the information giving through KS.
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So who do I see about correcting three idiots to three stooges for the official English release?
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>>13460834
Oh yeah, forgot about those, thanks.
>>13460843
Message the devs directly, or via Gab.
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>>13460834
>backer only updates

?
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>>13460072
>>13460072
>>13460072
Call to battle
Defend your franchise's honor
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>>13460829
>>13460834
While you guys are here, might you by any chance happen to have anything to do with this?
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>>13460922
>implying i care of others opinions
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>>13460995
This is proper way to browse.
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>>13460436
>2005 Corolla
that's not really a bad thing.
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“【这件事情】,父亲也告诉我了”


“所以苏军(才要来)么……”


不快感无法完全掩盖。贝娅特丽克丝也无表情的点头。


“是啊。苏军——在苏联看来是想要压制不稳的举动。这最适合首都东柏林的示威活动了吧”
“为了让人们知道,这个国家酒精是谁在支配”


贝娅特丽克丝没有点头。肯定是因为这件事某种意义上对于贝娅特丽克丝来说也并不愉快吧。


苏联在德驻军在东德部署的背后理由,是阻止东德发生的叛乱。根据老爸所说,第二次世界大战后的东德,在苏军占领下,依然数次发生追求自由、民主的暴动——好像是都被苏军用实力击溃了。


现在的示威行动,大概其成功也被人接受了。的确,在本国的首都主干道上,如果他国坦克部队旁若无人的进发——本国的生杀予夺的权利被谁把握,自然就成了一看便明白的道理。


即便是对于不莱梅家那样的“红色贵族”来说,与苏联在一起也是一件难事。
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>>13461195

>Chink posting here

Disgusting
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>>13461195

So it's a Chink translation of what's going on in the pic. Beatrix is telling Jürgen that the Soviets are there to help the Ossies stabilize things, or so her father told her. Jürgen disagrees, saying they're here to oppress the East Germans and show who's boss (yeah, tell the daughter of the Minister of State Security that, real smooth). Beatrix doesn't really agree or disagree, but she's just as upset as Jürgen is.

Moves on to talk about how the Ossies have had a history of trying to buck Soviet dominion and how the Democracy protests have been getting bad. This is made worse by the fact that the Soviet's have been treating everyone like shit. Even the "Red Aristocrats", the Brehmers, have been feeling the weight of Soviet authority.
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>>13461195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc7fnqxbkko
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>>13461249

>yeah, tell the daughter of the Minister of State Security that, real smooth

I'm thinking more and more that it'll be Beatrix who fucks Jurgen up, not Iris.
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>>13461296
nha, but i'm Iris was forced to do this
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>>13461296

They've been seeing each other for a while when he said that. They kinda have an understanding and trust for one another by this point. Jürgen even promises that he'll make Beatrix happy. On the flipside, Iris has been getting more and more jelly over Beatrix, so...
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>>13458868
Buy liquid plastic cement, and acid fume mask, and chemical proof gloves. Or, be good with glue. If you make a mistake on a Koto kit: there is a good chance for the pegs to snap.
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>>13458868
you are much better buying the non scale
the 1/144 has horrid articulation
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Reading that Muv-Luv community forum makes me want to kill myself.
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>>13461452
feel sorry for the admins then
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>>13458868
>Never built a kotobukiya model before
If you've only built Bandai plamo, then I'm sorry, you've been spoiled. Briefly:
- Koto plastic is sharper and more brittle than Bandai plastic (especially since Bandai introduced its soft PS compound that its been using since the HG Build Strike), so expect more stressed pieces
- Koto lacks Bandai's patented polymer injection tech so it can't produce plates that protrude as far from the plane of the plate
- Because of the above, you have lots of tiny (well molded) pieces, as well as lots of left over runners

As for the Take itself, in 1/144 it's not too bad. Articulation's not fantastic, and a number of important joints are PS-on-PS only (most importantly its ankles and front skirt), so they're the most likely to wear out. I'd suggest using the PS part for its torso ball and T-joint (it has an ABS option) simply because the abdomen is so thin.

The most fragile parts of the kit is the front skirts. Later kits in the 1/144 line are better about it, but the Take is particularly bad in this regard.

You will want to learn to mask and paint the kit; because of the way the joints on the arms/legs are constructed, you cannot seam weld the kits and paint before assembling.

tl;dr: it doesn't look great without some work, but with patience and effort you can make it yours.
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>>13461522
>>13458868
the legs also have some horrible seams right in the middle
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>>13461522
I don't understand how anyone can break Koto kits, nonscale or not. Koto kits were my first mech model kits and I have never managed to break them. I only had experience with WH40k assembling and painting before this Koto stuff.
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>>13461555
Warhammer is babby tier model stuff.
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>>13461555
I've broken a few pieces from my SRW kits. The problem is the extremely rigid and brittle plastic, sometimes while testing how some parts fit, they refused to separate and I ended up breaking some pegs.

It is nothing some glue can't fix, but you don't want that to happen often
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>>13461569
>warhammer
>babby tier
That's not gundam
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So what's the verdict of those Community Forums Muv-Luv team made?
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>>13461612
Depends on the tier. WH stuff is stupidly easy even at its hardest.
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>>13461668
Interesting but ultimately autistic
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>>13461668
What ? If it's worth it to sign ?

It has a cool option to follow members, so you can always just follow the team itself to get notifications about their posts if you don't want to get yourself in the community.

There are some /m/ens and Wiki contributors, but actually there is a lot of " Newbies " to the series, more than I thought, and a lot of " Casuals ", /r/ type of discussion about all and everything. Most of the posts are from them. Not saying it's utterly bad, but clearly I don't think you could have a serious discussion on some series details there. I prefer to stay here and post only from time to time there.
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Did MuvLuv team say the Codex are an exclusive for kickstarter?
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>>13461704
For now, yes, but they will think later ( Probably after the release ) if they release it elsewhere.
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>>13461703
>actually there is a lot of " Newbies " to the series, more than I thought, and a lot of " Casuals ", /r/ type of discussion about all and everything. Most of the posts are from them.

pretty much this, there's barely few content of the actual series, now that I think about it, just how vast was all the muv luv stuff the kiminozo guy has?
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>>13461714
Thanks. I'll upgrade my pledge at backers kit. I can't risk it not getting release.
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>>13461679
Is it really? I remember getting superglue all over my hands when I was trying to make my Termies as a kid.
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>>13461795
You've been using too much glue then. That's not because the building was difficult, it was because your skills were shit.
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>>13461668
>http://community.muvluv.moe/index.php?/topic/46-is-muv-luv-your-favorite-visual-novel/

>Grisaia in top 5
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>>13460086
Yeah because even with the most shitty inefficient way to put English into rUGP that should ever significantly affect the time to release something compared to FUCKING TRANSLATING IT PROPERLY.

But this is the English VN market, translating things properly ranks somewhere well below epic memes and how many thousand tweets you can shit out in one month in importance.
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>>13461862
>wat is google translate
I can't wait to see everybody flip their shit when this happens
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>>13461858
>Grisaia at all
somebody kill that faggot
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>>13461522
>you cannot seam weld the kits and paint before assembling.
Not true at all.

See TSFIA/Mecha encyclopedia for details on how to mod the kits to avoid unnecessary masking. You will need a saw.
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>>13461889
He's not alone I'm afraid.
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>>13458868
>>13461396
I mainly want the 1/144 scale so it'll be in scale with my revoltech Shiranui. Speaking of which can the 1/144 weapons work with the revoltechs?
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>>13461902
damn, that look sharp
but that Shiranui is the non scale, right?
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>>13460086
>all of the content that's available in Japanese also available in English
MUH
FUCKING
DICK
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>>13460843
>not black tri tards
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>>13462111
Yeah, that's exciting. It'll take them a while for that, though, one thing at a time.
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>>13461858
when you've only read 5 visual novels its hard
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>>13460086
>>13460370
Update: I just checked that thread again and some people were talking about how they want pewdiepie to play muv luv
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>>13462294
Why.
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>>13462294
>>13462299
I think it was just one guy who said that and was immediately told it was a bad idea
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>>13462069
>but that Shiranui is the non scale
That's just an example of what I meant. You cut and glue things in order different from what is described in the manual to make painting easier.

Pic related has a few pages dedicated to every existing Koto ML kits showing what to do with them as well as some customs.
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>>13462121
Nah, too contrived.
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>>13460843
>correct
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>>13462502
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>>13463097
her nipples aren't small enough to be fully under those tails
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I have to say the A3 Tomcat is pure sex, but the TMC Eagle is shit
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>>13463354
oh,a nd you might hate the Commies, but their machines sure are sexy
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>>13463354
>TMC Eagle is shit
You realize TMCs are designed for repainting and modding, right? They are blank slates.
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BRABO READA, DIS IS COMMAND POST
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>>13460843
>correcting three idiots to three stooges
Done, have fun
Why the FUCK would they want to do Meme Subs that would cause a shit load of licensing trouble for them?
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>>13463856
Would it really cause licensing trouble? "3 stooges" has been so ingrained into Western public consciousness that I'm almost certain it would be protected as fair use.
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>>13463856
>3 stooges
Isn't this public domain by now?
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>>13463856
You could've at least had the decency to shop in the originals.
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So any other eurofags here or just people from countries with nasty customs and taxes? Any idea how those Kickstarter rewards are usually marked when they are sent? I pledged over 1k, so it isn't the most pleasant thought of paying over 20% tax over it, when it finally arrives. I can pay it though, but it's still annoying.

Also read that they might send gift bags before other items, so I really do hope they mark them as $50 value tops or just say it's a gift.
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>>13462294
NONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
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>>13463904
>ingrained into Western public consciousness
Well, I have it ingrained as three Autistic ugly middle aged men personally.
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>>13462294
does he even play VNs?
>implying you "play" VNs
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>>13463856
>>13463904
This is Muv Luv. Everything that shows in the game that has reference to the real world has its own name. Please don't forget that, thanks.

Eg:Tokyo Hands -> TK Arms or something, Boeing -> Boening etc.
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>Pledge $280 USD
>Charged $377.92 CAN

Fucking exchange rate.
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Do we get Faraway Dawn translated?
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>>13464174
I know that feel brother

Things won't get better until 2018
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>>13464174
fucking poor canadian, with nazi custom law
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>>13464205
We've been this through this before. Give 100% save to AltPro and it'll be done.
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so SM PV when?
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>>13464318
never
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wait, they recycled nipporn?
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>>13463964
>originals
I would actually like this.
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>>13464237
Why does it have to be 100%
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>>13464318

Holy shit. Beatrix actually won the SM character poll by a wide margin. Guess Bernhard im Schatten really has done wonders for her popularity.
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>>13464345
Ara, was there any doubt?
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>>13464345

It wasn't really that wide of a margin. If it was politics, maybe you'd have a leg to stand on, but for an internet poll, 4-5% isn't that huge, Also, she's the main heroine of the currently running series (Iris kinda gets pushed to the side in favor of focusing on her). Of course she's gonna be getting a lot of love.
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>>13464349

>Ara, was there any doubt?

Actually, yeah. Japs tend to hate overt sex appeal and domineering personalities. Granted, those are only a facade Beato wears to cope with all the shit in her life (kind of like Yuuko, but worse), but I'm still surprised a villain, especially one as fucked up and evil as Beatrix, beat out the lolis and won the poll.
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>>13464369

Katia's not that popular. It's not that she's hated or a bad character, just that she doesn't stack up so well compared to the other girls. Heck, according to the popularity poll she's second to last.
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ViVi's the cutest SM.
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https://twitter.com/otakamoemi
new pr girl

mipporin recycled in Kouki personal hive dungeon
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>>13464335
Because the two games actually have a plot, and the True End can only be unlocked in Real Mode or else by completing all missions without any cumulative casualties. Some anon posted pics from the True End on hard mode a couple of years back, everyone was amazed.
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>>13464349
no doubt, because Yukarin.
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>>13463856
if this gets chosen I'll dox Kouki's stream for however longer more he streams on nico nico
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>>13463636
THEIR HUMANE BURANISUUUUU
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>>13462294
It would be PERFECT if someone like him "plays" through the first three days of Extra and then says "man this is terrible, I don't recommend this". The fans will either disregard it too or be interested anyway and read the rest for themselves.

If they do, they will be in for a ride. If they don't, they will at least not flood all the ML communities on the internet with their stupid meemz.
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>>13464614
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>>13464619
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>>13464614
>>13464619
>>13464623
noice
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>>13464614
i want a fucking PV, i want to see how bad it is
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>>13464655
it will ooze QUALITY all over it like TE
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>>13464614
>>13464619
>>13464623

Designs are actually not that bad. Now let's see em in motion.
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>>13464844
delicious trollakata
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>>13464848

It's Trollvember, don't you know.
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>>13464614

Will the anime actually cover the whole story this time?
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>>13464830
well even Arslan Senki design wasn't bad, still the animation sucked

>>13464865
Only the first VN, we don't even know what is in the second one
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>>13464614
>>13464619
>>13464623
I just want to see how edgy this will be
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>>13464870

The first VN covers the first three volumes of the LN. The second does the rest. Shit doesn't really start flinging around at a high velocity until volume 5.
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>>13464879
well shit, i thought the second VN was inedited material
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>>13464623

Iris is looking good. I really want to see Beatrix's and Kirke's designs now.

>>13464890

Partially. The second VN is planned to include two non canonical routes in it along with the Irisdina True End.
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>>13463599
I guess
still, the way the jump units connectors are designed is really, really bad
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Anybody know whags up with the backerkit emails? I was under the impression they would be sent pretty quicly after your pledge was confirmed
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>>13465142
not until 2 weeks dude, learn to read
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>>13465142
About two weeks after.
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>>13464614

That chin in the side profile looks terrible.
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>>13463989
As you don't really buy anything on a kickstarter ( That's just donations, you don't buy the rewards ), I think they will ship as gifts. I might be wrong, but I don't see why they would not.
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>>13465257
>That's just donations
No, you are not donating or buying. You are funding. Get it right.
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>>13465307
It's actually considered like donations in the Law, at least where I leave.
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>>13465317
>leave

Seems like I'm tired. I meant Live of course.
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>>13465321
If that's so, then even if you're not delivered the promised products, you're fucked.
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>>13465257
Customs where I live has restrictions on the value of gifts that are not subject to duties though.
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On the subject of the backer rewards, when are they going to be asking us for addresses and such? I'm hoping it's soon, because I almost never use or check my email, and I don't want to have to be watching for it for 11 months and risk missing both the email and my items.

I only have the $150 physical PC tier, which obviously doesn't exist yet and won't anytime very soon, but I'm still worried about not seeing the request for info.
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>>13463904
>>13463939
I've seen the term "three stooges" dropped numerous times in modern media without consequence; I'm pretty sure it's perfectly fine.
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>>13464550
If what gets chosen for what?

>dox

I don't know what that means.
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>>13465424
>what
three stooges. and doxing means his stream will no longer be able to broadcast
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>>13465401
What kind of garbage email client doesn't have tray notifications?
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>>13465488
And why would you do that?
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>mfw somehow missed the kickstarter completely
Those jackets look fucking sick, too.
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>>13465495
because the term 3 stooges is shit
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>>13465504
Cry more, princess.
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>>13465516
If I can do something about it I will, bb
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>>13465504
>caring about what english terms will be used
>caring about english translation at all
it's like caring what color shit your food will turn into after it is digested
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>>13465498
under what fucking rock you were all this time?
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>>13465521
Fine, throw a hissy fit, ya fat baby!
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>>13465561
>>13465574
>implying insulting me will do anything
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Real talk /tsf/.
when Meiya refers to her shameful body , at that very moment, was she experiencing unimaginable agony, or divine pleasure?
does the latter mean her final CG is of her orgasming as she's vaporized?
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>>13465604
>was she experiencing unimaginable agony, or divine pleasure?
Either both or just the later.
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>>13465604
pleasure, beta learn that was the most efficient way of stimulation
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>>13465737
but who was tentacle?
Superior is the only species with that adaptation, yet you see his very same tentacles in Yokohama.
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>>13465604
What's shameful about agony?
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>>13465737
>>13465604
Not conclusive. BETA tested both extreme pain and extreme pleasure.
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>>13465604
>>13465758
how does that even work to be honest, I would love to see it animated, with all the tendrils snaking their way under her skin as she moans and grunts like a pig in heat.

why didn't she immediately detonate her s-11 if her resolve was so strong?
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>>13465604
>>13465927
Superior took control of her nervous system. She was ashamed because she couldn't overcome it.
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>>13465927
Because the only thing left of her Takemikazuchi was the torso and half a leg, and she was stuck to the XG-70.
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new official plushie photos
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>>13465935
Basically, she was ashamed she liked being raped.
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>>13465946
>Orange heads
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>>13465959
I'm colorblind so I thought they looked perfect
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>>13465959
Still a prototype phase dude.
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Does Yuuko Rebuild A-01 post-Ouka?
or is Alt-IV disbanded more or less because it achieved what it set out to do, and everything from now on is military?
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>>13466010
A-01 is still around, they're seen in a TSFiA.
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>>13465946
It looks like they're trying to make it similar to the one in that one side story
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>>13465498
Check their forum for that.
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>>13465959
>>13465968
The heads do look pretty damn orange in Joshin Eishi Cryska EX CG. It might be the shading or something else. Do you see that having them orange is going too far to keep in-line with the CG, or should it take after the actual Destroyer-Class' main colour?
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>>13466186
It wouldn't hurt to turn down the orange a bit. Something like this would look a lot better.
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>>13466186
I was about to point out the paw pattern not matching the actual Destroyer-Class which is more varied in size/number of dots etc. but then I remembered it was supposed to be based off of the CG which doesn't have a varied pattern, so now I feel conflicted and don't know what I want anymore.
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>>13464908
Holy shit what a whore
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>>13466292

How is she a whore if she only puts out for one dude?
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>>13466292
>whore
the purest girl in the franchise
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>>13466292

Yukarin's voicing her. That automatically makes her pure as snow. The only whore in SM is Theo anyways.
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>>13466212
I think tuning the orange down would still be an option. If you use social media or are on the forums, dropping a comment on it is strongly recommended.

>>13466234
Perhaps a good median between the two would appease your confused want?
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>>13466351
I mean, I originally wanted something that was a lot closer to the original, but then I remembered that CG and realized that that's what they were going for, so now I'm conflicted, since any changes to it would make it not faithful to the original CG which is supposed to look comically cute. Probably something for other people to pitch in on since I'm likely the only one autistic enough to care about something that minor. If they're going for replicating the CG version as close as they can, then it's probably better as-is.
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>>13466377
Comically cute works better for plush toys. Something like this works best if it a hard plastic toy. But really, do give 'em feedback as much as possible. Perhaps you can initiate a conversation through that.
Just noticed how the Destoyer-Class' two heads remind of baby Iris from Gamera 3.
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>>13466407
Yeah, I agree. I'm fine with it replicating the CG, especially considering how impractical trying to replicate the original would be in terms of cost and design, I guess I was just remembering the CG incorrectly and thought it had a less cutesy paw pattern.

I just hope they put the extra KS money towards improving the main games, translating new content, or something along the lines of that which would benefit everyone including those who didn't back. The amount of merchandise we're getting is more than enough. I'd give up half of my merchandise if it meant the money would be put towards Kouki expanding the trilogy to be what he originally wanted, but the cynical part of me says a large part of why it got this much was because of the merchandise, so I guess it wouldn't have mattered.
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>>13464237
I beat it, where do I find the save?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3wbZgDpvc4&list=LLix3LFgKCCqQwhiFF_Gwz_A&index=45 Gun Hazard when?
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>>13467278
Is there seriously no download link for this anywhere? I bet someone on /m/ has it like that KimiNozo guy. He probably has it.
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>>13464354
>Vivi
They were only voting that because her seiyuu was there.

It's not a fair comparison regardless because Irisdina has existing supply and thus lowered demand, defaulting to the character on the next most stuff already was to be expected. Once you get past that the margins between Liz/Gretel/Katia are small enough to be barely noteworthy but there is a trend of Liz being a little more popular than Katia anyways.

Kirche is in "will literally only get any characters goods ever if Kasumi sells the most at Comiket" tier and I doubt more Numakura can turn that around.
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>>13467436
I think he never uploaded it because it "wasn't good enough".
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>>13466331
He doesn't even fug any of them.
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>>13467593
Fuck him it looks good enough to me.
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>>13467593
It wasn't good enough for the team itself which put down the download because of this.
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>>13467626

Lise is probably the most impure (thank you very much Axmann), followed by Sylwia. Pham might or might not have been raped.

Gretel, Inghild and Beatrix all had boyfriends. We don't know if they actually consummated their relationships (though both Beato and Gretel had been going steady with their BF's for years so it's highly unlikely that they're still virgins).

Kirke, Annette, and ViVi are all probably virgins.

Irisdina, Theo and Katia are the only ones who the LN outright states to still be virgins by the end.
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>>13467227
As far as I remember it's locate in "C\Users\Users PC\My documents". It'll be nice, if you upload it.
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>>13467436
After searching all over the " Visible " Internet, I had to resign : The only link to the file was on the official page and is long gone now.

So I tried to dig in a little into the japanese underground scene, and checked if I could find anything on sharedb or winnydb. As I had no more luck ( Even less than Google ), I decided to go check on Winny myself, but I didn't have it on this computer nor used it for ages and HOLY SHIT, how much exactly did it or Share have been locked down ? I can't find a download link anywhere, not even on 2ch /download/ threads, and as I know the updates are generally directly downloaded in the soft, I wonder if they didn't just lock their community to those already in possession of it.

I had it a lot of years ago, but there is no way I can find it on one of my old drives, so I can't dig further I'm afraid.

If anyone have better luck, the original file was named alt_gh_v100try.zip. Although it has been most probably renamed if uploaded somewhere else.
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>>13468232
And when I say that, I find an obvious site having them. Guess I did a too much complex search.

So nevermind, I will try to dig in a little more then.
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>>13467470

That's not going to stop the Beatrixfags from waving it around as a victory. Still, it's kinda surprising that she got twice the votes that Katia, Lise, and Gretel got, especially after hearing about how supposedly unpopular she was over in Japan.
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>>13465946
Looks huggable.

>softness of less than -15 on the Mohs scale

I'm gonna go kick myself now; back in a few.
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>>13468362
Sometimes people are full of shit.
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I'm reading the Chink scans over on http://www.lightnovel.cn/thread-737394-1-1.html.

Holy shit, the rebels are bastards. Gretel was calling them out on torturing and summarily executing prisoners/random people (her words were "unprovoked killings...without justification"), bringing up how "It's against the Hague convention to do this" and "This makes you guys as bad as the stasi." The rebels were like "Bitch please" with one of them (Susie), even accusing her of being an agent of the stasi and threatening to throw her to the interrogators to shut her up.

Theo's a dick too for complacently going along with them, despite his squad increasingly becoming uneasy with the whole rebellion turning into a witch hunt crossed with the French Revolution. This culminates with him executing Lise to prove his loyalty, despite Annette, Gretel, and Katia telling him that it was bullshit and not to do it. All because he thinks it's going to score him points with Irisdina.
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>>13468517
>All because he thinks it's going to score him points with Irisdina.
You and I must have read something very different then. He was putting her of her misery, in between her threatening him and begging him to do it. That was the clincher, not mere loyalty.
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>>13468232
>>13468239
You did your best.
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So will I get an email to sign up for the Backerkit thing now?

I dont know how this works ;_;
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>>13468734
everyday the fucking same question...
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Could anyone upload save for Faraway Dawn with both Type-00 units unlocked in freeplay?
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>>13468772
That's the price we have to pay for having more interest in ML. More people also means more questions, in this case stupid questions.
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>>13469252
The answers to these questions should be in the OPs from now on so people can stop asking all the time
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>>13469291
But by adopting a regular OP format this crosses the line from ML threads turning from regular threads into actual generals, the kind that shit up boards and is basically grounds for eviction to /vg/.
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>>13469376
This. People can go FAQ themselves instead.
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>Degica claims Muv-Luv will be out in March, with Alternative to follow in the summer. I don’t believe them for a second. Not because they’re especially untrustworthy, but simply because I don’t believe any announced release date for this franchise. Longtime Muv-Luv fans have been trained to accept this, and even to consider it an integral part of the Muv-Luv experience. Unfortunately, most backers of this Kickstarter campaign are not longtime Muv-Luv fans, and will probably not respond to a string of broken release dates with the same good humor.
>tfw casuals can't into オルタマダー?
polite selfsage for blogshit
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>>13469393
What's the ETA for the photons?
>tfw オルタFDマダー?
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>>13468734
http://community.muvluv.moe/index.php?/topic/146-what-is-backerkit-can-i-upgrade-my-pledge-use-paypal-and-select-add-ons-here/
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>>13469435
"When its done"
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>>13469435
No idea, but let's see the current status if they'll just "adopt" whatever translation is existing:
>Supplement: all included segments unTLd
>Atonement: rough script TL by some /m/an
>Inheritance: unTLd
>AF main segment: common route+3 ends TLd
>CD, RD: TLd
>Confessions: unTLd
>Aspiration: Tld
>Resurrection: unTLd
I think that covers it.

Oh wait.
>Ass Ensemble: never
>Last Divers: never
>Haiburu: never
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>>13469468
Last Divers without tda have no sense
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>>13469523
I just included it for the hell of it, since it's also a Chronicles segment.
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>>13468181
Alright, here's the saves.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9arp8hl7ttq0f/Akatsuki_Haruka_Nari_Saves

Faraway Dawn 1 (all real difficulty), and FA2 (real 1-6, very easy 6-11)

Still struggling with the 6th mission on real. So somebody get this to altpro for the translation.
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>>13469904
I'm kind of busy with other translations, and I don't know if Afhook will even cut it for FD, but I couldn't get those saves to work. Try uploading your entire AF and FD folders (and preferably on something that isn't Mediafire).
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>>13469252
Most of these people probably aren't 'new', they just haven't used kikestarter before
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How would you(in your opinion) translate the v-22 Osprey, into a radically new, and experimental TSF?
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>>13471165
>V-22
>V
>fighter
Fuck off retard.
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>>13471165
It transforms into an airplane. Easy.
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>>13471193
>A-6
>A
>fighter
Fuck off retard.
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>>13471201
A-6 isn't a fighter, it's an attacker.
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>>13471201
but the A-6 isn't a TSF
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>>13464614
>>13464619
>>13464623
Already looking a lot better than the TE anime designs.
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>>13471193
>A-12
>it's a supersonic high altitude spy plane
>but in muv luv is a submarine launched frog armed to the teeth, that doesn't even fly.

if you don't want to call it s TSF fine, just call it a VSA(vertical support armor)
just take the Infantry armor, refine it, and slap smaller jump units on it.
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>>13471237
>if you don't want to call it s TSF fine
>A-12
That's officially a TSA, and A-12 has not been shown yet.
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>>13471210
Stellbomber go away
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>>13471237
Wrong A-12 retard.

Helicopters don't become giant robots because helicopters still work as helicopters retard. The V-22 isn't even an offensive weapons platform, why would it be anything

The Lockheed A-12 line likely doesn't exist because of the Susanoo but could still be around as is like the Soviet bombers.
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>>13471194
Still not a fighter.
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>>13471298
>The Lockheed A-12 line likely doesn't exist
then why does integral works classify them as TSAs?
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>>13471335
It doesn't.
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>>13471316
Fine, so, call it a Tactical Surface Variable. What's the problem?
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>>13471345
That's flat out wrong.
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>>13471335
Different A-12 you moron.
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>>13471353
> McDaell Doglam A-12
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>>13471353
Lockheed A-12 =/= McDonnell Douglas A-12, you mincing fucking shite.
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>>13471298
Since tiltrotors exist to bridge the gap between helicopters and airplanes you could argue that there's a niche for a transforming Tactical Surface platform to bridge the gap between them and airplanes.
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>>13471392
You couldn't, because there is no niche for transforming TSF.
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>>13471392
or maybe, just maybe have them transform from TSF to really big tanks
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>>13471404
Don't be ridiculous, America needs real fighter aircraft to establish air superiority on the battlefield in the post-BETA era, because TSFs are massive subsonic SAM bait.
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>>13471387
so, would the Nighthawk be a TSF, or TSA?

>>13471404
>implying implications
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>>13471421
>trying to pass an april's fools as worthy argument
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>>13471421
Functionally a TSA but arbitrarily classified as a TSF, obviously.
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>>13471429
>>13471426
how did Cookie completely forget about arguably one of the sexiest Jets in the history of aviation?
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>>13471464
>F-14
he didn't, but the TSF looks pretty bad.
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>>13471464
It's not really relevant to anything and pretty much squeezed out of the timeline by the late introduction of F14/15/16 and early introduction of the F22.
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Best up and coming TSF.
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>>13471485
>not relevant
oh come on, it was revolutionary and incredibly effective in the gulf and Iraq war.
You could make it work something along the lines off "breakthrough in materials, design, and technology, lowers Laser class awareness of the craft to almost nothing" however the performance suffers as a fact and the craft can't maintain long term combat.

>>13471574
nice try senpai
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>>13471574
why does it look nothing like the Su-series?
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>>13471679
Because it's fanmade.
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>>13471822
>Muv Luv
>Off topic of Mecha

Yeah, good try.
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>>13471822
>it's real
don't we have enough shitposting boards?
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>>13471859
It will just be probably a second /b/ minus the dicks...

>red board

Oh, well it will just be a second /b/ then.
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>>13471822
>/mlp/, /mlp/ everywhere

Oh my god, Hiro, what have you done...
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>>13471859
Well I'll be damned, it actually is real. What a pointless board.
>>
>>13471822
>>13472001
I wish someone would make a Gundam board so autists like you can stay there.
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>>13471822
>>13472001
>>13472035
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>>13472035
>baiting this hard
>>
>>13471859
>>13471882
It's like the /bans page, but purely for off-topic threads. Not sure why you're able to make threads directly on the board, though.
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>>13472054
So basically their first idea was to push people to post off-topic threads on any board as they knew it would be moved instead of deleted ?

That's... clever...
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>>13471841
>>13472022
>>13472046
>>13472049
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BETA
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>>13472320
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>>13471679
neither does the real Su-50
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>>13472320
>dat Hive at the back
never noticed it due to that ASS
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>>13472473
Pakfa is F L A T
and ugly
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>>13472606
Always more sexy than the F-22 though.
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>>13472613
F-22 A shit.
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>>13472606
>spoiler

Certainly, if you compare it to the Flankute.
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>>13472613
while I will say the f22 isn't exactly "sexy", it at least has it's own identity and a well defined visual. It's definitely not a protagonist jet though.
the Pakfa, and pretty much nearly every other 5th gen concept just looks like they took their 4th gen fighter, switched out the swept wings for a delta pattern, gave it some FUTURISTIC RADAR CONSUMING body design and squashed the fuckout of it

there is no aggression in the Pakfa, just an out of shape fighter
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>>13472473
>leaving out China's fucking monster of a Jet fighter
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>>13472732
forgot my image
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>>13472732
>china relevant
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>>13472738
>just a slightly sleeker MiG 1.44

>>>/out/
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>>13472741
>>
>>13469962
Saves work perfectly to me. That gd.dat file maybe contains progress status like unlocks or unit current levels (for freeplay use). I'm not sure.
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>>13471592
>yukikaze

pfft
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>>13472757
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>>13472667
how many babies?
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>>13473052
>>
http://schwarzesmarken-anime.jp/#music

fripSide is doing the OP
>>
>>13474939

We already knew that.
>>
>>13474939
>white forces
Why didn't they call it Red Force? Or Black Force?
>>
>>13475026
>white forces
Treasonous counterrevolutionary wrecker scum.
>>
>>13474939
Is Irisdina a metaphor for the Schwarzesmarken anime, and the barbed wire is a metaphor for the studio and budget?
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>>13475057
>>
>>13459252
You can still buy some extras last-minute via BackerKit once they set it up, IIRC.

I forget if you had to pledge at least a dollar to be qualified or not.
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>>13475081

Better quality for you.
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>>13465946
How small will these be?

I'm going to buy another one or two so that I could have a local seamtress make a larger one to properly cuddle with.
>>
>>13472548
The BETA have learned that humanity's weakspot is sex.

So they began to mass-produce BETA with the intention of having them convert the masses to being servants/slaves of the BETA. When the humans become too old work, they are recycled into a larger BETA strain.
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>>13475238
So reapers?
>>
>>13475238
making hybrids? count me in!
>>
>>13475184
They mentioned the dimensions in one of the updates.

>>13475249
No.
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>>13475238
So the beta are woman?
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>>13475419
no, only alpha are woman
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>>13475419
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muvluv/muv-luv-a-pretty-sweet-visual-novel-series/posts/1402528

>Beatrix daki.
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>>13475811

>Japs actually liking Beatrix more than Katia, Lise, and Gretel

Has the world gone crazy or something?
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>>13475831
No, you just had delusions.
>>
>>13475811
Everything is being promised to come out earlier than I expected, Photon* is coming around Alternative and gift bags are coming for Christmas. I guess double the sekai project money means 4x the normal sekai speed.
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>>13475835

So you're saying that her getting more votes than Katia and Lise combined (>>13464345) was just a figment of my imagination?
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>>13475850
Yes. Wake up anon, you're in a coma.
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>>13475811
>>13475831

I think its more absurd that they might throw her on the "heroine" daki listing, considering that not only is she unromanceable, she's the main villain/final boss of her game.
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>>13475910
Depending on where you stand she did nothing wrong.
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>>13475923

What are you talking about, she did a shitton wrong. She only looks less bad because she's a hot girl and her coworkers are even bigger douches than her.
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>Dem pointy chins
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>>13475923

>stasi sympathizer

Disgusting.

Next, you'll be telling me that the Titans or Zeon dindunuffin.
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>>13475931
>>13475973

Stasi are evil, but the rebels aren't that good either. A lot of Rebels were looking at a chance to get even, so the rebellion ended up getting out of control. Summary execution and torture of loyalist/stasi "sympathizers" was rampant. Some of the characters, like Gretel, were even threatened when they expressed outrage over some of the shit the rebels were doing. I'd still say the rebels are better than the likes of Beatrix or Axmann though.
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>>13476016
good grief the BETA finally overwhelmed all those faggots in the end
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>>13475973
Titans I don't know where I stand on that, zeon only wanted to be treated with respect.
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>Sekai Employee that was hired alongside Degica/ixtl shoehorns their company into the last KS update
>"W-We said we'd port Muv-Luv!"
>"We're still relevant, I swear!"
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>>13476082
>tumblr
Get out.
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>>13476034

The best ending would've been Theo fucking off with Katia and Lise and letting Beatrix and Iris play out their little feud. I don't think an UNDERSTANDING ending would've been possible by the time SM starts. Beatrix was willing to compromise with the rebels, but when she lost all her bargaining chips, it pretty much killed her incentive to do so. It's kinda realistic though; real world rebellions, especially in a nation's seat of power, are brutal and tend to bring out the bad in everyone. The desperation the BETA add just makes it even worse.
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>>13476093

Doesn't the Muv-Luv thing have a Tumblr? And Sekai?
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>>13475848
Sekai is involved in this? Those massive catastrophic shites?
>>
>>13476056

Zeon (under the Zabis) wanted to rule the Earth Sphere. Titans were basically like the stasi in space, only with a 100% more atrocities.
>>
>>13476153
Only one of Sekai's employees. He was proudly proclaiming how great it was that Sekai was involved. even thought it was just him.

Gotta keep those Molyneux's going. Sekai Project can do anything, boys.
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>>13476082
Jason isn't a Sekai employee, he only has a game and SP is it's publisher.
>>13476153
They helped them from the start, but that's just about it.
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>>13476153
They aren't involved, they're just a promotion partner. You get a little, you give a little.
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>>13476198
Helped them from the start or helped them at the start? Unless you're being sarcastic about the "that's about it", help from the start would imply a massive amount of help.
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>>13476213
at the start. But like >>13476208 said, SP's not involved in the decision making.
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>>13476213
If >>13476198 is right, it'd just be at the start. Just carting around stuff during whatever convention Cookie showed up at in America.

Or something.
>>
>>13475910

Beatrix is the main heroine of BiS, so it's not too incongruous.
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