/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

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>>9593093
As a response to increasingly common incidents of inexcusable bad taste I propose that we rename Science Fiction & Fantasy General to /gwg/ Gene Wolfe General. Plebs need to know just from a glance at the OP in the catalog that Malazan and Sanderson aren't welcome here.

>ywn be an Ultra living out decades in a couple of years aboard a lighthugger

3rd the first story in hyperion is the only good story

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>>9593131
>Hyperion
>Good at all

>>9593107
this

>>9593107
EXCELLENT post

>>9593107
I'm working through my backlog so I can finish the solar cycle and read Latro in the Mist

Only Wolfe I read so far is BotnS and Urth, but those were very enjoyable

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>>9593093
Why did the upload change source from imgur???

>>9593079
>Nightblood is a stronger Shardblade per WoG though
>WoG
Way of Games? Words of God?

Are there any good books in which Alchemy is a central theme in the plot, or at least very important in it?

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>>9593107
>people will believe this
>if this continues sffg will be no better than outer lit
>mfw this is a ploy by outer lit to kill discussion

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>>9593107

And the Sanderson rebellion has been foiled. The remaining Sandersonfags will be hunted down and defeated. The attempt to label me a pseud, has left me epistemologically scarred and metaphysically deformed. But I assure you, my resolve has never been stronger! The Unholy Consult will hit store shelves on July 6th!

In order to ensure the patrician taste of /sffg/ continuing sales of my series, this general will be re-organized into the Wolfe general. For an informed and tasteful membership!

Don't forget The Unholy Consult (UHC for short!) hitting store shelves on the 6th of July! Or just buy it on Kindle!

>>9593188

Are you serious, my nigger? Fucking Witcher, maybe?

>>9593197
this post is nowhere near autistic enough to be bakker

>>9593190
Aren't these threads just Reddit dens anyway? Might be an improvement if the rest of /lit/ weren't as awful as they are.

>>9593182
Imgur is dogshite. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

I'm getting near the end of All The Birds In The Sky.

Why did people insist this was good again? I'd rather have Charlie Jane Anders back on io9

>>9593188
Blue and Gold by K.J. Parker, though be warned that it is one of the very worst things I've ever read.
>>9593107
I'm not opposed.

>>9593190
These threads have been shit for like a month now, I barely even stop here anymore and I think I'm just gonna stop coming. All the interesting people are gone and never post, it's just the same small circle of redditor pseuds jerking off to boring trash.

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>>9593107
Wtf.. The OP is shit with "book of the thread" posts, and now these redditors trying to push wolfe (like if the help is needed). This general is dying. I just hope it turns out to be summer.

>>9593322

>the things were different in the past meme

Why don't you contribute instead of whining, loser?

>>9593361
nice reddit spacing ;)

>>9593382

>reddit spacing

People have done this for as long as I can remember (which is '08, '09). How long have you been here, cupcake? Unless you've been on 4chan since it's inception, you can take your baseless accusations and fuck right off.

anyone want to read a sci-fi story where a guy from space terrorist land goes to space new york city and investigates a space 9/11, only to learn the truth?

>>9593390
Sure. Fiction that deals with hot topics can be fun. Beats the hell out of retreading ground that was done to death decades ago like most genre-writers.

>>9593398
yay! it kind of alludes to a lot of hot topics. mass surveillance, privatization of police (to cheaply protect corporate assets), internet psyops, corruption from the bottom all the way to the top and other shit like that. There's a scapegoat for the space 9/11 a particular group of people (nothing like muslims IRL), and one character is of this race

it's not super actiony, but i want to make it very tense. Whole book takes place on the planet. just need to organize this shit and start writing

>>9593445
This could work well. And if your writing turns out to be mediocre call it a homage to classic pulp. Or you could double down and write a modern day 'The Iron Dream' and call it a response to 'The Turner Diaries' or something. Hell, that's such a good idea I think I might write it down somewhere.

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Does anyone know of a good Dune analysis?
Looking to get some more insight in this work.

>>9593477
dude it's just a book about sand worms and space ships

>>9593221
How bad is it and why is it bad? I have it lying around and thought about reading it during summer.

>>9593477
i couldn't get into dune. i tried, but i couldn't.

>>9593482
> The Divine Comedy is just some book about a guy who goes to hell
> Invisible Man is just some book about a black guy

>>9593498
I just finished it yesterday and it's an instant favourite of mine

>>9593528
Griffin wasn't black

>>9592226
John Carter's obvious invulnerability does kill a lot of potential suspense. The appeal, though, is less about *whether* he's going to make it through than how exactly he does it (meh, he usually just fights his way out, but to his credit Burroughs does describe "boss fights" in pretty good detail) and what cool stuff he sees along the way.

Regarding similarities, it'd be more accurate to say a lot of anime feels like Barsoom. There's also an obvious parallel to videogames: the player/protagonist *is* going to make it to the ending, the real value is in what he does and sees on the way there.

>>9593528
>comparing Dune to The Divine Comedy

you fucking genre kids lmao

>>9593556
Dante is fantasy, religionfag.

>>9593556
>genre kids
What are you even doing in the sffg thread then?

>>9593107
GLHF
Try not to get sad when no one else will play in your sandbox :3

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Giant robots!
I want stories of giant robots!

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This has been talked about in the past, but I made a few images as an introduction to some SF authors with a basic description of the author's style, subject, worldview, recommended works, and other similar/related authors.

1/4

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2/4 criticism of both style and content are welcome.

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3/4

>>9593128
>ywn be Captain John Brannigan
>>9593146
Stfu fag Hyperion is good
>>9593174
Latro in the Mist is the combo of Soldier of the Mist and Soldier of Arête
>>9593188
Kim Stanley Robinsons The Years of Rice and Salt
Tim Powers Anubis Gate
The Tool album Lateralus
>>9593197
Heresy
>>9593548
Read Leigh Bracketts mars stories and C.L. Moores Northwest Smith stories

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4/4

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>>9593705
>its the Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein triptych meme with Vogt thrown in for some reason
Nigga u ever Alfred Bester or Walter M. Miller, Jr or James Blish?

>>9593672
>tfw giant robot war stories will be revived and written with greater literary depth the way space opera has been

>>9593723
How could it be done?

>>9593672
War or the Worlds

>>9593725
I'm sure someone in the 60s during the new wave asked how could space opera be better written?
Sam Delany and M. John Harrison pointed the way with Babel 17 and The Centauri Device
Since the 90s a bunch of authors have been doing it
Hyperion, Revelation Space, The Culture series, etc

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>>9593684
Saved, thanks man

Brandon Sanderson is The Best modern fantasy writer

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>>9593779
Erikson

pic unrelated.

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>>9593093
Post essential Nazicore

>>9593779
I loved his naruto shippuden episodes

>>9593723
Read Gundam Origon

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>>9593093
>I felt no physical need for Dorcas because I had poured out my manhood again and again with Jolenta in the nenuphar boat.
>Dorcas wept in private, vanishing for a time only to emerge with inflamed eyes and a heroine's smile.

FUCK YOU SEV
HOLY SHIT I'M MAD
FUCK YOU GENE, FUCKING PRINGLES LOOKING MOTHERFUCKER
DORCAS IS TOO PURE, SHOULD'VE PUSHED SEV INTO THE RIVER WITH THAT MONSTER

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>>9593705
I think these are well written. Nice to see some oc in any case.

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>>9593672
>Again the presence of truth where only more betrayal was expected let me smile. “I wasn’t lying, Caesar. There is a story in the book too, one I was supposed to finish. Apollo was rewriting the Iliad with giant robots.”
>He half laughed. “Giant robots?”
>“You know the old science fiction stories where the pilot rides inside a giant human-shaped robot. Apollo’s Iliad was set in the future, a space war where Troy is on the Moon, with Hector and Achilles facing off in giant robot suits and smashing asteroids. It was badly written, too. If you saw a chapter, Caesar, you would laugh.”
>MASON frowned, uncertain, as if believing me only because the claim was too stupid to be a lie. “Why would Apollo waste their time on such a thing?”
>A touch of lightness let my tears pause. “It was the only way Apollo could imagine a future war where one soldier still matters. Apollo hated war, could not forgive a universe where such horrible suffering was necessary to get to Mars. They desperately wanted to find something else worthwhile in war, something to make it more than an unforgivable but necessary evil. The Church War consisted of statistics, a hundred thousand dead here, a million there, mostly civilians, but even the majority of soldiers were killed by faceless bombs, and those who did see the whites of the enemy’s eyes did so only in waves of thousands.(...) Apollo wanted a war of meaning, two sides embodying two futures, who would fight with respect and honor, putting their lives on the line for their philosophies, as it was when Saladin and I faced Seine and Apollo. Homer’s heroes could have that, be that important to the course of the war, because they were part god. Apollo’s future version had cyborg pilots bonded to special giant robots that only they could use, which made them overwhelmingly powerful compared to common soldiers. In Apollo’s version the gods were powerful A.I. robots, so a human pilot in a giant robot suit was literally wearing a prosthetic god. There were only a handful of pilots who could do it, so when one left or entered battle, or switched sides, that individual decision could change the face of the war.”
Ada Palmer baiting all the /m/ fags I see.
Give me /m/ or give ME DEATH YOU KEK.

>>9593128
>Ywn randomly skip several decades between chapters and miss all the action

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>>9594102
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>where Troy is on the Moon, with Hector and Achilles facing off in giant robot suits and smashing asteroids.
And honestly if Valrave didn't inspire this I will eat my fucking hat.

>>9594117
Valvrave was so fucking weird.
>alien space magic vampire ghost illumination
Just fuck my shit up senpai.
At least the mechs looked cool.

Anyone read fortune's pawn?
It comes pretty close to a good Metroid adaptation, but then turns into romance novels schlock. Quite a shame.

>>9593705

Can anyone who has read Van Vogt books give their thoughts on his best books?

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>>9594120
The ending gave me tears for real though.
>Haruto? Is that my name?

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>>9594117
And this is why nobody thinks genre fiction is real literature

Nice job making /sffg/ look even worse guys!

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>>9594143
>“Angela was twenty-two then. She had been the real head of the family since she was sixteen, since Mother died, since I was born. She used to talk about how she had three children—me, Frank, and Father. She wasn’t exaggerating, either. I can remember cold mornings when Frank, Father, and I would be all in a line in the front hall, and Angela would be bundling us up, treating us exactly the same. Only I was going to kindergarten; Frank was going to junior high; and Father was going to work on the atom bomb. I remember one morning like that when the oil burner had quit, the pipes were frozen, and the car wouldn’t start. We all sat there in the car while Angela kept pushing the starter until the battery was dead. And then Father spoke up. You know what he said? He said, ‘I wonder about turtles.’ ‘What do you wonder about turtles?’ Angela asked him. ‘When they pull in their heads,’ he said, ‘do their spines buckle or contract?’
>“Angela was one of the unsung heroines of the atom bomb, incidentally, and I don’t think the story has ever been told. Maybe you can use it. After the turtle incident, Father got so interested in turtles that he stopped working on the atom bomb. Some people from the Manhattan Project finally came out to the house to ask Angela what to do. She told them to take away Father’s turtles. So one night they went into his laboratory and stole the turtles and the aquarium. Father never said a word about the disappearance of the turtles. He just came to work the next day and looked for things to play with and think about, and everything there was to play with and think about had something to do with the bomb.
>(...)
>“Will that do? Is that any help to your book? Of course, you’ve really tied me down, asking me to stick to the day of the bomb. There are lots of other good anecdotes about the bomb and Father, from other days. For instance, do you know the story about Father on the day they first tested a bomb out at Alamogordo? After the thing went off, after it was a sure thing that America could wipe out a city with just one bomb, a scientist turned to Father and said, ‘Science has now known sin.’ And do you know what Father said? He said, ‘What is sin?’
The best books are the ones that are self aware.

>>9594143
What is genre fiction? Anime?

>The altar and the organ were made by a vacuum-cleaner company in Camden, New Jersey—and said so.
Vonnegut is the most memeable author ever.

Can we discuss horror novels in this thread too?

Its hard to make genre threads outside of this one unless you're talking about Dune.

>>9594164
Dune is shit

>>9594154
Anime is the highest form of art.

>>9594131
It's pretty much those three. SFWA's Best Of included "Weapon Shops of Isher" but I thought it was too on the nose. We get it Alfred, you support the right of the people to bear arms.

Van Vogt's stories are all about nonstop actions. Slan is the purest expression of this: does it always make sense? Hell no. But the protagonist turns some crazy corner (maybe literally) every page. Space Beagle is much the same, IN SPACE.

Null-A is an attempt to be more "philosophical", but whatever the underlying merits of General Semantics they come across like Time Cube (or Philip K. Dick). If "TIME CUBE ADVENTURE: THE YEAR 2600" sounds appealing, you'll probably like it. If you think it sounds retarded, maybe not. Van Vogt was not and it not by any means a universally loved author.

Sanderson.

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>>9593705
These are neat, thanks for making them!

>>9594190
is garbage

I've never read any of his books and I don't intend to, but I still kind of hate Berny Sanderson

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>>9594190
I love Sanderson.

>>9593684
Yeah these are good.

>>9594212
look at this fat nerd and his stupid sword dildos

>>9593956
>>>/pol/
You have to go back

>>9594217
>>9593956
>read the summary on wikipedia
>Swastika Night is apparently feminist
This just confirms the fact that SJWs are the same thing as /pol/.

>>9593725
Giant robot war stories as literature? Just throw a bunch of literary devices at it. Wolfe-esque first person unreliable narrator, Philip K. Dick's stream of consciousness. Then combine that with some standard genre tropes to keep the plebs interested; adolescent protag, a femme fatale/tsundere love subplot, father-figure sargeant, aloof CO. Plot and narrative? Perhaps the protag is recalling events from a hospital bed after a concussion or traumatic event. Or talking to a robot therapist event (like in Pohl's Gateway.) His memories are fragmentary, unreliable, repressed, etc. Now who's going to write it?

>>9594225
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

>>9594217
>muh /pol/
>in sci fi thread
lmao every second book is either authoritarian-fetish or utopic-faggotland lmao collegebois #gasenglishmajors

>>9594226
So a great king's life achievements amounts to nothing but ashe? What does that have to do with sffg?

>>9594235
Because you can throw in a whole bunch of Ozymandias references - colossal wrecks and the remains of future, past and present wars all around and of sculpted robots and decaying interfaces.

>>9594231
What does this even mean?

>>9594239
You're smart, you'll work it out.

>>9594243
No I'm confused, thus the call for clarification.

>>9594246
>>9594239
It means that today he is an lmao summerfag that got off #Twitter

>>9594226
It's a great poem of Shelley's but I don't quite see the relevance. Unless we're just going to trade cool SF/fantasy inspiring poems now. In which case here is one I like by Clark Ashton Smith.


THE MEDUSA OF DESPAIR


I may not mask for ever with the grace
Of woven flowers thine eyes of staring stone:
Ere the lithe adders and the garlands blown,
Parting their tangle, have disclosed thy face
Lethal as are the pale young suns in space—
Ere my life take the likeness of thine own—
Get hence! the dark gods languish on their throne,
And flameless grow the Furies they embrace.

Regressive, through what realms of elder doom
Where even the swart vans of Time are stunned,
Seek thou-some tall Cimmerian citadel,
And proud demonian capitals unsunned
Whose ramparts, ominous with horrent gloom,
Heave worldward on the unwaning light of hell.

>>9594249
It means that he is vexed.

>>9594252
I like this one.

>>9594239
>What does this even mean?
You need an IQ of at least 103 to post here.

>>9594235
how do you not know Ozymandias

>>9594261
You also need a degree in deciphering facebook-speak.

>>9593956
This book deserves to become a meme. It's fantastic and delivers a punishing bog-pill to end all pills on identity politics. Nazis were right in their own way, as are feminists, Zionists, UKIP, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Charles Manson and Genghis Khan. Supremacy is the only sane ideology. To deny that you and your own are better than everyone else is suicide.A common sentiment today but back in the day this was cutting edge stuff. Incredible that she predicted what's happening now when she meant to apply it to a hypothetical victory by the other side. That just shows how little we learned from World War 2.

>>9594077
Pringles Can knows no mercy.

>>9594222
What passed for a feminist less than 100 years ago is pretty much full-blown /pol/ ally today. Burdekin would consider third wave feminism an abomination. Swastika Night is explicitly about how that kind of behavior is destructive for both sides.

>>9594239
Complaining about /pol/ in a science-fiction thread is stupid because most science-fiction is inherently fascist. Read 'The Iron Dream by Adolph Hitler' by Norman Spinrad if that sounds insane. He went to a lot of effort to make it clearer than I ever could.

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>>9594274
>alternate-history Adolf Hitler, who in this timeline emigrated from Germany to the United States in 1919 after the Great War, and used his modest artistic skills to become first a pulp–science fiction illustrator and later a successful science fiction writer, telling lurid, purple-prosed adventure stories under a thin science fiction-veneer
>telling lurid, purple-prosed adventure stories under a thin science fiction-veneer

>>9594102
>>“You know the old science fiction stories where the pilot rides inside a giant human-shaped robot. Apollo’s Iliad was set in the future, a space war where Troy is on the Moon, with Hector and Achilles facing off in giant robot suits and smashing asteroids. It was badly written, too. If you saw a chapter, Caesar, you would laugh.”
For you:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev1aBt-_Zs4

>>9594280
Truly amazing senpai.

>>9594225
>>9594226
The pilot could wake up in a hospital after being found in an ancient stasis capsule. After three thousand years in cryosleep, he's the only one who remembers the cataclysmic events of the Giant Robot War, writing down his memoirs to immortalise his fallen comrades from the platoon. His literary work and the half-buried remains of the robots, ravaged by time and desert winds, are the only proof that the war happened.

>>9594102
So what is this from?

>>9594280
Ulysses 31 was GOAT.

>>9594274
>>9594277
I've read The Iron Dream, and it was extremely tedious. You can get all the laffs and insight about "Emigrant Hitler was an SF writer" from reading the Wikipedia plot summary, and the historical allegory makes Animal Farm look like Ulysses. Every Golden Age writer for whom The Iron Dream's "criticism" isn't a total strawman is forgotten. Don't write bad books on purpose, kids.

>>9594225
>be lazy
Baka!

>>9594297
Seven Surrenders (sequel of Too Like the Lightning).

I certainly hope the characters become pilots later on but I think that it's more likely that the author is blueballing /m/ fags since the 18th century, political, philosophical themes and questions about divinity are so prominent in the novel it is hard to imagine it shifting to a Gundam or other /m/ esque setting.

>>9594309
>strawman
Its not
And plenty of them are still revered
Modern versions are the bread and butter of the nu-pulphouse baen

>>9594319
And they are both about giant robots?

>>9594326
No robots at all. The mention of robots is just a minor digression in like one page where Mycroft (who was a criminal) has a hold of Apollo's Illiad which is also a minor plot point. He is charged because of his crimes to do things for society and completing the Iliad is one of them.

I think that actual mechs entering the series is quite unlikely. I would like actual mechs.

>>9594319
>It's an '''''utopia''''' where expressing yourself as male or female is taboo, religion is illegal and nationality is a fading memory
Jesus Christ

>>9594272
>most science-fiction is inherently fascist.
How about you try to make that clear

>>9594335
I have my own very spoilery theories on why the author did "that" and all of them have to do with how likeable the MC is.

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Can anyone recommend some conservative authors?

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>>9594334
>mfw no robots at all.

>>9594360
They don't know what they are missing out on.

>>9594358
There are those fedora tipping trench coat wearing neckbeard stroking low test betas who tried to take over the Hugo Awards and got laughed out of town

Then you have older authors that are first generation libertarian - so they are not racist or sexist or autistic - Robert Heinlein, Poul Anderson, etc

>>9594322
Please, tell me all about the "revered" authors who are also Literally Hitler.

Re: Baen journeymen, devastating critiques of white noise pulp writers need to rise at least slightly above the level of their targets in terms of literary merit (by any measure). Iron Dream does not.

>>9594364
Not him but Heinlein's books are great, highly recommended.

>>9594358
Poul Anderson
C.S. Lewis wrote some SF books if you're into that
Heinlein was a rabid libertarian
John C. Wright
Larry Niven
Jerry Pournelle
David Drake
Nick Cole
Larry Correia

I-is this the dinosaur thread?

>>9594383
Fuck off to the Taken by the Triceratops general

I recently read Hard to Be a God by Strugatsky and was wondering if there were any other /sffg/ books like it, where the protagonist is driven to take action despite believing or being raised to believe in non intervention.

>>9594365
That's not what was was said mr strawman

>>9594377
>putting John C. Wright and Larry Correia next to those other authors
Also 'rabid libertarian' doesnt meant conservative. He wrote about free love, made protagonists minorities, females were equal, was devastating against religion, etc

>every drawfag on 4chin could be the next Hitler

>>9594416
I wish

>>9594417
I want to be a dictator.

>>9594419
Plato says it's bad, but so do I

Imagine the giant statues of yourself you could plant everywhere

>>9594425
>Imagine the giant statues of yourself you could plant everywhere
Yes. Yes!

>>9594358
Orson Scott Card

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>tfw no rocket riding space cowgal gf

>>9594501
>western "women"

>>9594504
Why would you put that in quotes?

>>9594501
Futa?

>>9594539
My guess is that cowboy has traditionally been a homosexual occupation, so a woman in a western, specifically as a cowgirl, isn't actual something that exists.

>>9594416
>every drawfag on 4chin could've been the next Hitler
Ftfy

>>9594556
>my guess is that cowboy has traditionally been a homosexual occupation
Projection much?
>>9594547
Lewd

>>9594547
>>9594563
Spacefuta are a superior species and we should submit.

>>9594565
Are there actually books that do that?
Bonus points if they call it something silly, like enzyme-bonded futa.

>>9594576
Not that I know of, unless there's some Japanese hentai I don't know about.

>western
Are there any genuinely good books about cowboys in space?

>>9594601

The Star Wars novels that deal with smugglers and bounty hunters.

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Who else HYPE?

>>9594612
Why don't you read literally any other book by Brandon Sanderson and have 1:1 the literal exact same experience? :^)

>>9594612
Don't know nothing about no Stormlight Archive.

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>>9592664
Wolfefags pls respond

>>9594620
wew lad.

what?

>>9594612
I'm looking forward to reading it

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>>9594612
Kind of? It releases in what, November? I don't know how much time I'll have to read until the semester is over. I tend to not get too hype for Cosmere shit until I'm reading it.

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>>9594608
>reddit
>not thinking shit like Sanderson and Erikson are some of the best things fantasy has to offer

>>9594678
>shit like

that sums it up pretty well

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Only one month remains until the release of the masterful final addition to the Aspect-Emperor series on July 6th. Don't forget to pre-order your copy of The Unholy Consult in case they sell out!

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Lmaoing at the all powerful droplet

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>>9594713
Didn't the previous book come out around the same time last year?

>>9594718
niBBa you've clearly never been in a hailstorm

>>9594713
If it sells out, don't worry! There's also a kindle edition, so you can always by it there when The Unholy Consult (tm) is released on July 4th.

>>9594719
Yes, because these last two books were supposed to be one book. But it was too long so Jew publishers split it.

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>>9594736
That's pretty cool, so it has been a year for you guys. I remember a lot of buildup and then not much after release. Must be nice to get yearly releases!

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>>9593684
>>9593692
>>9593700
>>9593705

Here are a couple I made in a shitty attempt to mimic the style of yours.

1/2

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SHILL LIKE THE LIGHTNING

I'm here to shill this wonderful shit

First and foremost this book was an absolute pleasure to read. Lovely style, with a lovely narrator who makes you chuckle and writhe in agony in the space of a page.

The world is this wondrous and rich, yet so tangible and believable future. I reminded me more and more of Hyperion, but set on Earth/ Every location and journey is a new joy, like meeting a new character.

And the characters, bless my soul. The cast of the parade are the utmost joys of your tale. Every character as memorable and distinct from each other, in ways which make you just die for them to succeed. From the contrite beauty of the French siblings to the hearty weight of the Mitsubishi, every meeting and every conversation between the Technocrats told me more about the world than any shitty info dump could. Every name dropped, every passing comment, the character will weave themselves back into the novel eventually, with revelations even late into the story. I absolutely adored the dinner party, of the explosive hierarchy and awe-inspiring meeting of the leaders. Sci-fi clearly needs more dinner parties.

I think the real genius play was the page 78 entire 7-10 list, in its full grid, while confusing to the point of my ignoring it, became the glossary for the rest of the read. Names, titles, factions. A better guide than any exposition dump. Masterful writing.

Palmer's really smashed it in my opinion, I really recommend this. Should have won the Hugo, ordering Seven Surrenders, got big expectations. Reminded me of Hyperion a lot, and even more of The Thing Itself by Adam Roberts. Similar themes, the latter with a similar style.

Good shit boys

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>>9594754

2/2

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>>9594743
Well, the splitting isn't pretty cool itself but nice to have something immediate to look forward to. I'm surprised Stormlight hasn't been split yet on the hardbacks.

>>9594758
you sound like a woman

>>9594805
Reminder that the book he's shilling is set in some grand utopia where everyone can switcheroo between what gender they identify as at will

Isn't that just amazing?

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>>9593956
This one (about a war between all the parallel worlds where Hitler won and all the realities where Rome never fell) is some good pulp

>>9594612
Not really. I'll read it but I would not say that I'm hyped.

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Why dost thee not read the greatest fantasy novel?

>>9594761
I'd consider adding Zajdel to the "You Might Also Like" section, if not for the fact that none of his works are available in English. I read Limes Inferior in one sitting, Van Troff's Cylinder in two. The man was amazing.

>>9594758
>>9594818
>sff is now just vehicles for SJW world views
Whatever happened to just telling a good story

>>9594864
>reading for the plot

>>9594874

Story =/= plot.

>>9594864
>now
at least since the 90s bro

>>9594862
>Zajdel
Yeah, he always pops up as a recommended author (along with Dukaj), but without an English translation they're out of reach for me.

Hey I've just seen Ghost in the Shell (the anime of course), any good cyborg related novels you guys recommend? I've already read Neuromancer fyi.

>>9594899
Obviously the books Ghost in the Shell is based on.

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Is there any fantasy lit that can compete with the deepness of Hunter x Hunter?

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>>9594961

Honestly, no.. But the final act of Fate/Zero remains my favorite piece of edginess ever.

Is it just me or is this general full of Hiatusfags?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3d_k_21QPg

>>9594217
>>9594231

seriously if they are not going to read science fiction + fantasy they shouldn't be posting here.

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>>9594864
>>9594818
>>9594805
what the fuck is wrong with you idiots

doubt any of you dense /pol/cunts even tried the book. the gender issue is fairly minimal, and hardly confusing. at times it's actually funny, there's a sex scene which gets you muddle and the narrator apologies profusely
yeah Palmer pursues a fairly progressive utopia, but it's just their vision of the future, and a fucking entertaining one

are you lazy fuckers really going to write off probably some of the better modern scifi in a while because its "S-S-S-JAY-DWOUBLE-YU". despicable. even if you don't agree with their political views, read it as a study of what you personally don't believe n

>>9594758
I feel like this is a satire and you just threw together a bunch of marketing words in order to make it sound fun. All the while you sounded like a pretentious asshat in describing it.

>Memorable characters!
>Deep lore!
>BUY MY FUCKING BOOK

>>9595112
>sex scene
Disgusting.

>>9595119
I mean I just finished the book when I wrote that. The characters are memorable, and with a really big cast it's neat how they all stay so different. a lot of them are hyped up too, the first scene with the Emperor is intense.
didn't mention lore, and I didn't even buy the book

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>>9595112
>This intense shilling

>>9594864
sf has always been about exploring psychology, cosmic science, metaphysical, and political theory. if you don't agree think that fiction should aspire to this means that you're the very normie plebs making sff the genre fiction bullshit that people have criticized it for

>>9594961
>discount dragon ball

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>>9595112
I don't have anything against the book but you mad senpai

>>9595112

>life is short and you can only use your time on so many things
>so you should read this novel that forces its politics down your throat for no particular reason

Woah, cowboy.

>>9595141
You still sucked this books dick hard, and I do mean hard. But you're also very vague about the book itself.

What's the plot? Who's the main character? Why do I give a shit?

While you admit you're a shill, I'll give real shills credit in that they're more subtle about it and don't suck the book off furiously as thought it was Nectar from the Gods themselves.

>>9595142
literally self admitted I was shilling. it's a good book, and seeing as there's something three left in the series I want fuckers here to read it so we can all shitpost about it together
>>9595157
only because it isn't the "sjw garbage" everyone seems to think. shit like that annoys me
>>9595164
literally forces no politics down your throat. it's just the world, get over it

>>9595180

>literally forces no politics down your throat. it's just the world, get over it

That is forcing politics down your throat, unless the author is making a point of exposing how it's fucked up. Otherwise it's implicit that the system presented is a beneficial one that you should support.

>>9595192
No it's not, in most sci-fi books the society is presented more or less neutrally, like "this is what human society might look like in the future", without making it look like either a perfect place with no faults, or some kind of creepy dystopia that should be opposed.

>>9595206
brainlet

>>9595178
The plot essentially follows the protagonist around the world, serving the rich and powerful as a prolonged punished for a crime he committed in his past. weaved into this are several other criss-crossing story-lines, which gradually give an insight into just how tightly linked the overseers and the factions of the world are. what I found interesting just how Utopian the world is, which makes the seemingly benign stakes incredibly weighty.

>>9595192
so are you not allowed to include politics in a novel to further the story? any brief mention of politics HAS to be the author exposing how EVIL they are? The gender issue, which I think what you're getting at, it explained well and used tactfully throughout the story. it isn't just transgender heaven for the sake of being progressive, it's the narrator uses to intricate the story

>>9595224
>it's the narrator uses to intricate the story
it's a tool the narrator uses
sorry, I'm cooking as well here

>>9595180
Tone down the shilling and give it time, maybe people will read it.

>>9595192
So, do you exclusively read books that align to your political opinions? Sounds quite limiting.

>>9595206

You have either been reading bad sci-fi or you aren't paying enough attention. Just because the plot isn't the overthrow of a government, doesn't mean that the book isn't critical of how that society operates. The state of the world that's presented to us implies whether or not that way of governing is good or bad.

>>9595224

You can include whatever you want, but that inclusion (especially if it's meant to appear neutral) usually tells you what the inclination of the author is. You could conceivably write a Star Wars story whether the Empire is good, and the Republic is evil. And if you make a choice like that, it isn't happenstance, just like presenting an utopia as a democracy, for example, isn't just chance. It's a choice the author makes, either consciously or otherwise.

>>9595238

>So, do you exclusively read books that align to your political opinions? Sounds quite limiting.

I don't mind differing political opinions, because I don't lean strongly one way or the other; but you're absolutely fucking right that I'm not going to read a work that smells of stormfaggotry or sjw nonsense.

>>9595249
>I don't lean strongly one way or the other
>I'm not going to read a work that smells of stormfaggotry or sjw nonsense
Surely to have a grasp of the spectrum, you need to see both extremes.
While i've still got my dick attached I'm fairly passive against transgenderism etc, but I'd probably still read >>9593956 if someone told me it was a thoroughly good book.

>>9595112
I heard some of my friends shilling the book. You have puted me out of it, so thanks I guess, more time to pursue another crappy genre serie.

Anyone has read the Kingdoms of God? I speed read the first 100 hundred pages or so and seems tight, good fall of ERE setting with tercios (than are my jam), non intrusive prose and without any cringey character so far.

>>9595249
Also it's worth mentioning while tLtL does go pretty full on with the gender, there's some interesting political discussion there too, with each major faction having a different definition of "Utopia"

>>9593350

Umm, why is there a photo of my workplace in that meme?

>>9595333
your janitor application went through

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>Too Like the Lightning
>look up author
>Ada Palmer
Nah

>>9595352
It's weird how sometimes google image searching the author can tell me you more about a book than any review ever could

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>>9595356

You're telling me. IF ONLY I KNEW THIS THEN.

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>>9595367

>>9593107
>putting Sanderson and Malazan in the same category
you clearly haven't read Malazan. I'll give you Sanderson, though. Absolute shit.

>>9595356
oh please, let us all know what deep insights your google image search of the author told. enlighten us, I beg

>>9593913
Too bad Gardens is shit compared to the rest of the series, too many people bail. I can't think of any other fantasy novels that even come close to competing with DG, MoI, or DESU.

>>9595396

>>9595367
>>9595380

>>9595399

What the fuck is DESU?

>>9595421
The Bone Hunters. Forgot T B H is Desu.

>>9595445

Seriously? I loved MoI and it's one of my favorite books, but gave up the series at Bonehunters (I pretty much forced myself to finish 5). I wasn't interested in any of the things going on, and then came this segment where Fiddler and the others are attacking Leoman's compound. It was just so drawn out that I lost interest. I don't give a fuck about this part of the cast, and then I heard on /sffg/ that the series doesn't even properly end, and that many characters like Karsa are getting spin-offs, so I just abandoned it.

Is there any series where it's agreed upon that the romance made sense and was good?

I've been reading about a year now. I have finished quite a few series and not a single one have I felt that the romance was good or added to the story.

In fact I have found the vast majority to be complete and utter shit (The Faithful and the Fallen series being the worst) I don't understand how authors can write this slop and think it's good.

Perhaps my expectations are too high so maybe if I read something most consider good my opinions will become more grounded.

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>>9593093
My latest discovery - simply amazing

>>9595575
I love sex and romance. The problem is that Books I like don't have any explicit one. Books that have, are shit usually. Which is sad in my opinion.

>>9593197
So this is how Sandershit dies, with one-talent whores

fuck I want to read TUC ...

>>9594164
wouldn't mind this also

as someone who doesn't frequent this board, I don't know why /lit/ is so fucking uppity all the time about delivering some good horror recommendations

I just wanna read some fun/ engaging shit first to get me back into the mood of reading before thrudging through heavy-ass literature you twats

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>>9594961
But One Piece is much deeper.

>>9595631
Dark Forest and Death's End just keep the cogs turning faster and faster

>>9594961
>implying rubber nen

>>9595731
I love one piece but it's not deep.

To be honest, the deepest anime I've watched is kill la kill. It's amazing how a show can be so heavy-handed with its messages (love your body, don't make nudity perverse) but people still don't understand it because all they see is boobs so their brain just turns off completely

Finished DADoES after Ubik. Just ordered a used copy on amazon of Neuromancer. I am excited. Just started reading Dune.


How am I doing for entry level reading /sffg/? Suggestions? Am I doing it wrong?

>>9595631
So good it made me witness the death of the west.

>>9595799
make sure you return and say what you liked about Dune. It's a pretty varied book so we can give you some recs off it
After Dune I think Hyperion's the next step though

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>>9595795
>it's not deep
wew lad it is hard to be more wrong

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>>9595695

This is from the wiki but i can think of a few other authors that deserve a mention like Clark Ashton Smith or Robert McCammon.

>>9594576
One of C.L. Moores Northwest Smith stories I think

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>>9594601
A lot of space opera

I would strongly recommend the works of Leigh Brackett

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>>9594818
You know that Harold Bloom put this novel in his Western Cannon, right?

>>9594612
I liked the first two books a lot. It's trash reading but it's like fast food from a restaurant I like.

>>9594612
Is there any other books with the theme of having an otherworldly partner like this? I really enjoyed those parts.

>>9595863
thanks, appreciated

casting the runes or song of kali has my interest

initially wanted to go for heart shaped box, but a lot of reader reviews made it out to be kind of lame and uninspired

>>9595943

Modern horror is like modern sci fi and fantasy to me; a regurgitation of known concepts but with none of the sincerity of past authors.

Its like talking to a hipster.

>>9595941
Spirits are one of my prefered things in fantasy (that and fey, TRUE fey), I was pleasently surprised about the Way of Kings because that. If it wasn't for the female PoV...

>>9595971
I dont mind her, I was actually more enthralled with her parts just because I found her to be cute, and the stuff with the abusive father was interesting.
Also the concept of her particular spren was neat.

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>>9595943
>initially wanted to go for heart shaped box, but a lot of reader reviews made it out to be kind of lame and uninspired
It's not his best. I'd start with 20th Century Ghosts (collection of short stories) after that check out NOS4A2 and/or Horns.

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Does anything else even compare?

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So I read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep for the first time. I feel like it was heading toward a question of Rick's humanity or androidness but not at all. What was the takeaway of the entire book? I did enjoy it.

>>9594754
>>9594761
These are great

>>9596124
I mean, the main message is the distinction of artificiality versus real living things, how after his experiences hunting so many modern Androids there isn't a distinction any longer. The one feature, empathy, was a trained feature in the left over human race though the boxes. Humans and androids aren't much different at that leve of sophistication.

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>>9595356

>>9596124
What I got from it was that the distinction between authentic and artificial is all in the mind, especially in such a world where the lines are so easily blurred, however is an important facet of human life. The primary distinction between the androids and humans is that the androids are so obsessed with the truth. They don't understand the need for religion in the book, and when they prove the popular religion to be a lie, humans still follow it because they are more concerned with what it offers: the hope to continue living. That is also why Deckard's wifey is planning to keep the robotic toad at the end. The ambiguity as to Deckard's humanity stems from the fact that he is so obsessed with the truth, and his job is to hunt the truth.

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>>9596135
>>9596155
True. Fair enough. I guess I was expecting a twist that didn't present itself.

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>>9595356
woof woof!

>>9596173
I had a dream Gene Wolfe moved next door to me in Chicago and I tried to get him to sign my copy of the Wizard-Knight and he called me the N word

>>9595119
>he doesn't know how to pirate books
Cuck

/sffg/, this is more of a mythology question but why were the muses considered goddesses of science as well as art when the only muse of science was Urania the muse of Astronomy

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>>9595651
GIVE ME BACK MY HUSBAND

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>>9596347
>husbando-ing a bunch of corpses

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reminder

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>>9594826
You know I actually really liked Hitler in the Timewyrm books, I thought that the author really made him feel quite sympathetic.

Speaking of Faction Paradox have you managed to find any other books (other than Who) like them? I like stuff like the Book of War mythos and Of the City of the Saved - so far and from a significant amount of digging I've only managed to find Ada Palmer and Fforde's scifi stuff which reads like it. (And I suppose by extension the Hyperion Cantos)

>>9596232
I saw Gene Wolfe at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>9594961
>>9594979
The hiatus is fucking painful.

>>9594358
Gene Wolfe

>>9596622
I recognise this!

Sanderson.

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>>9596622
this chuckled me

Where do I start with Conan?

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>>9594754
>>9594761
Not bad anon, I applaud you.

Can we do some confessions?

I thought Fire Upon the Deep was really overrated.

In fact I really didn't like it. I went into it full of hopes but just felt it was a combination of spread a little too thin and in places rather childish. Am I doing something wrong? What's the supposed strength of this novel?

>>9593704
>The Tool album Lateralus
what? why?

>>9596821
Read Howard's Conan and you can start with any story.

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>mfw all of child Æthelflæd's scenes in the Saxon Stories books

Oh my god this girl is precious.

>>9597155
This is a cute picture.

>>9594713
Did anyone listen to him on the Stuff the Blow your Mind podcast?
I just saw it but I don't want to listen till I've caught up with all the books.

>>9597258
>Stuff the Blow your Mind
I honestly don't listen to anything with him because the few times I've heard him speak have only made me like him less, and I'm not about to ruin the books for myself for that reason.

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>make an ensemble cast with 9 rotating perspectives
>only Daenerys and Tyrian are interesting

What did he mean by this?

>>9597349
This is what happens when you run out of interesting things to do or say with characters after over 2,000 pages of material.

Davos is best.

>>9597349
>only Daenerys and Tyrian are interesting
What a fucking pleb you are. You can't even spell the names right and ended up going for the worst characters. Just end yourself now.

>>9597385

Reading this series makes me a pleb by default.

>>9597398
No. ASoIaF is one of the few good fantasy epics.

>>9597403
This, Game of Thrones is criticized precisely because it's popular, and it's popular because it's good.

>>9597314
I know the feeling, when I first started a twitter I followed a bunch of authors I liked. Huge mistake made me hate a lot of them.

>>9597416
But quality is directly proportional to obscurity. Nothing popular and well-known can be good because it doesn't let you pretend you're a special snow-flake for liking it.

>>9597416
ASoIaF is criticized because it's flawed

>>9597510
As opposed to all the other things ever written?

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Has Orson Scott Card made any other significant work besides the Ender saga?

>>9597547
He has a book on writing, but I'm not sure how good it is.

>>9596622
>>>/lit/

>>9597557
Yeah, his two books on writing are pretty good.

>>9595399
Sorry I believe you meant to say HOC.

>>9597416
>This, Game of Thrones is criticized precisely because it's popular, and it's popular because it's good.
>it's popular because it's good.
I don't think you understand how popularity works anon

>>9597580
It's popular because the first three books were good.

It's criticized because everything after that is shit.

Spoiler alert:
George RR Martin dies from a heart attack before he finishes the series

>>9597759
Show is better anyway.

holy shit I downloaded the audiobook for the first in the Coldfire series by C S Friedman and IT SUCKS. I want my goddamn money back, magical damian man falls in love with some sorceress after one fuck date and then after she loses her memory he makes it his life fucking goal to go on a quest to return her memory. I can't believe such a badass setting for a story is ruined on such a horrible plot.

>>9597889
Good news: he actually ends up in complicated relationship with the vampire, and the sorceress isn't in the other books IIRC.

>>9597759
This meme needs to stop. The last two books (really one) are better written than the first three and far more mature.
>>9597802
>this brainlet

>>9597897
good to hear. still pretty disappointed with the reasoning behind their grand quest...if I know somebody hot for a week I'm not gonna travel to hell to save them from a little sorcerous depression.

What's a good series to check out (or even a standalone) about monster hunting? Something in the vein of the Bloodborne video game or Van Helsing though it doesn't need to be Victorian-esque (and in fact it'd be nice if it was set during some other time period or in some other world.)

>>9596142
Why are they all so pink.

>>9598030
Based jpg compression

>>9596931
was that with the Medieval Dog packs in the slow zone?
I liked the basic ideas, but the threat itself was over exaggerated and made the universe feel much smaller than it could've. Tying so much to that special snowflake bad guy, like the skoderiders felt forced.
Love those dogs though, and the internet culture society in general. Was playing Stellaris at the time and this reminded me of it.

>>9598021
Larry Correia's Monster Hunter books, or Charles Stross' Laundry Files. Laundry Files has a better concept but it's less straight monster-hunting and Stross has been phoning it in lately.

Monster Hunter has a more pulpy feel (and lots of gun porn) but has maintained its quality better IMO.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE END MY LIFE THANK YOU

>>9597889
These books have a weird as hell setup for the first book but the second and third books are pretty GOAT.

>>9598279
Not him but the second book was shit
I read the first book and the second book was just more of the same shit
>walk
>encounter something
>edgy sorcerer guy saves them
>priest dude feels torn morally
>repeat

Genuine question.

How many of you here don't consider yourselves 100% straight?

>>9598310
I really liked the cute loli.

>>9597416
>>9597403
I can't argue it's not good. But don't tell it's fantasy. much less an epic.

It's a large fiction with a few fantastic elements. A soap opera basically.

>>9598326
I've fapped to futa, like probably 99% of the users on this site.
Make of that what you will.

>>9598326

I had a beer last night

>>9598334
M8, it has fucking dragons, giants, magic... You're just trying to apply an arbitrary definition of "fantasy."
It's not historical fiction, and it has enough elements to count as fantasy, so it's fantasy.
And, yes, it is a glorified soap. But that's also why I love it. I've always thought Martin's world-building was garbage, and his prose is quite bad too. The only thing he does incredibly well is characterization and plot.
>>9598326>>9598335
I've also fapped to futas and worse, but I do consider myself straight. Not because I value being straight or I'm insecure about my fetishes - just because as far as real life goes, I've never been with anything other than a straight girl, and I can't imagine doing it.

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>>9598326
F U J O M A ST E R R A C E

>>9596232
>>9596622
Good post

Hello /lit/,
I'm trying to find an audio recording of PKD so I figured i'd post in here. It is titled "Phillip K Dick - Valisystem". I found out about this audio recording in the comment section of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGyhT5nVsEU
Here is the comment in question:
Tremendous opportunity to see Dick talking on video in length. There's also an amazing audio recording of Phil on YouTube called "Philip K. Dick - Valisystem" in which he expresses his private thoughts into a tape recorder having no idea that anyone would ever hear it. This recording is totally astonishing to me because it affords a glimpse into the unshielded thoughts of a 'BioDigital'. This kind of person is a host body for a digital Reptilian entity. All such people keep their status completely secret and NEVER discuss it - except for Phil in this audio recording! He doesn't really begin to discuss the BioDigital aspect of himself until about 28:00 into the recording...then, he describes his perceptions of the "All Seeing Eye" and his certainty that many other people have become hosts for this mysterious ET intelligence. If an unassimilated human wishes to understand the BioDigital mind, I would highly recommend listening to Phil in this audio recording from 28:00 till 34:00. These six minutes are startlingly revealing. BioDigitals are everywhere, man. They are taking control of this planet and gradually unveiling themselves. Unless you are extremely clueless (and most humans are), you'll want to take an interest in these adorably demented people and their zany 'New World Order'.
Now, the video has been taken off youtube, but it was definitely there at one point as there is a link to a dead youtube clip from a different website.

I found a reference to it on this website here:
http://2013philipkdick.philipkdickfans.com/media_audio.html


They say that they have a 42 minute section of the full 60 minute tape, under the title Philip K Dick: A Work in Progress. I tried to download it, but it was a .ram file, and I couldn't get it to play anywhere.


Anyway, if anyone who is obsessed with PKD knows where I could find this, that would be nice. Thanks.

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What mobile reader do you use, /sffg/?
I am looking for one where you can select several sentences and make it a bookmark, also it would be really sweet if cross-device current page synch is available

>>9598620

Kindle?

>>9596931
Terry Pratchet is a bad writer.
Good Omens is the only good book by him I've ever read.
Neil Gaiman is one of my favorite authors.

I've read through WoT 2 times and would read it again if that hack Sanderson hadn't fucked up the ending.

>>9598326
I'm not.

>>9598326
I do. Fapping to anything other than the opposite sex is a mental illness you need to take care of.

>>9595470
>It was just so drawn out that I lost interest.
It was drawn out because he wanted the reader to be more immersed in the subcity crawl compared to what the reader would be if the whole battle was divided into multiple chapters.

>>9595651
WHAT THE FUCK IS TUC

>>9598326
Figured I was bi around the 8th grade when I jerked off to some trannies. Haven't seen any reason to re-evaluate that.

>>9598655

Do you think I should continue? I'm ambivalent about many of the characters present now, but I'm invested in Karsa, Rake, and Ganoes.

>>9598660
ASOIAF = Autistic Screaming Over Idiotic Adult Fiction
TUC = The Understated Cuckold
BotnS = Book of the newish stegosaurus
TLtL = The inheritance patterns of autosomally homozygous 9:3:3:1 dihybrid yellow green pea crosses as manually performed by my lord and saviour Mycroft Canner after a long digression about Voltaire
LotR = Fuck off Tom Bombadil
WoG = Dropbears
Bakker = >>9593197
Stevian = Fuck off
Kevin = Literally who?
GLHF = The mystical and sacred texts of /sffg/
Futa = A religion

>>9598686
>Fuck off Tom Bombadil
I agree with this 100%.

>>9598694
My immersion died and was later brought in for autopsy. The coroner established the cause of death as none other than that fugitive Bombadil.

>>9598326
Meh probs like 95%z
Depends how much they look like a girl.

>>9598694

I adore Tolkien and Lord of the Rings, but people who defend Tom Bombadil are fucking cancer. I'm pretty sure that any normie, no matter how charitable, has to stop and think about what the fuck he's doing with his time when he comes across those chapters - at which point the book is dropped. A shame!

>>9598686
Now this is the kind of post I come here for.

>>9598684
You will wee more of Karsa in book 7 and 8, Rake in book 8, and Ganoes isn't really in the books until the tenth, maybe some role in the seventh but I can't remember..
You may grow to like the present characters tho. I sure did.

>>9595333
You work at Google?

>>9597547
I enjoyed Treason.

>>9598606
>ram file
That realmedia I think. Get vlc or mpc. Or convert it to mp3 with format factory.

>>9598716
Or maybe you're an illiterate nigger who can't think for yourself

>>9598686
>literally who
Canada, what are you reading? I know it's you this time.

I'm currently rereading the first witcher book and it just meh. Humor is okay but everything else is nothing special. This was my first fantasy book in childhood and i loved it so much. Look at me now.

NEW THREAD

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>>9593107
which author named sanderson?
am new here