Let's be honest. He was the last great social critic/comedian.

>>9141545
He was a liberal

>>9141546
That's why he was a good comedian and critic

>>9141545
Lol no

>>9141550
lol you're on 4chan, not reddit, sweetheart

it's time you go back

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>mfw people who unironically get all their political opinions from stand-up comedians

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>>9141545
I like Carlin. That said, leave now.

George Carlin was unfunny in an unfunny way.

Funny in a funny way: Patton Oswalt

Funny in an unfunny way: Bill Burr

Unfunny in a funny way: Doug Stanhope

Unfunny in an unfunny way: George Carlin

lol there is no god because of [aimless rhetoric] EVERYBODY BUT ME IS STUPID

>>9141570
>Funny in an unfunny way
>Unfunny in a funny way

What did he mean by this?

>>9141560
>>9141546

>>>/pol/

Daily reminder that /lit/ is largely a leftist board (not meme identity politics leftist like you see on tumblr). We believe in the principles of Age of Enlightenment here, far right /pol/tards don't. You're mostly bootlicking, tribal, submissive assholes, incapable of critical thought who need a strong authoritarian leader to tell you what to do.

>>9141568

See also: Schrödinger's statement. If well-received then it's "social criticism", if not then it's "just a joke".

>>9141562
>people who bother having political opinions for any other reason than to tell jokes and fit in

>great social critic/comedian
He was a better looking John Oliver with nicer voice. Same shit childish sense of humor and completely superficial social commentary presented as profound insight. To summarize: kill yourself my mang.

>>9141577

I THOUGHT THIS WAS A CATHOLIC MARXIST TRADITIONALIST BOARD

Which one was he? The last great social critic or last great comedian? Those are two different titles with dissimilar goals.

I've always thought Carlin is a good example of a comic with a highly developed voice and established audience. He could focus in on social commentary because he no longer had the pressure of selling tickets. Any venue would have been happy to have him because he could sell out a show with no problem. Comics who don't have the benefit of fame and need to maintain a POV with an audience that doesn't give them any slack are more interesting.

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>>9141577
>>9141590
Daily reminder that /lit/ is a Titoist board.

>>9141568

Why?

He was a great social critic who was not afraid to be politically incorrect. He called out idiocy where he saw it, regardless of political affiliation.

>>9141570
Patton oswalt is not at all funny.
I like bill burr, though

Let's be honest, he was a sad, bitter old man from about the mid 90s on and all the "comedy" he did from that point on was pandering, pseudo-nihilist bullshit that does a disservice to his earlier genius.

>>9141577
this >>9141590

Catholics and Marxists shitters have always congregated this shithole

>>9141608

Let's be honest the last 15 years of his career were the best. He was just being honest about how shit American "culture" was.

>>9141545
Norm MacDonald is better

>"Everything sucks, but nothing sucks more than what I used to believe in."
t. George Carlin

>>9141570

Oh yeah Bill Hicks is also stereotypically unfunny in an unfunny way.

>>9141615
Hating on American culture is part of American culture

>>9141577
>age of enlightenment
The definition of bootlicking.
>critical thinking
Doesn't exist.

>>9141615

No, not at all. He made pandering statements about "soulless businessmen" and white people being lame and stealing black culture, then he would talk about how funny or interesting death, suicide, murder, etc. are. His anti-Christianity stuff I get because that was cool at the time but other than that, the dude mainly just said "Burn it all down" which is really just such a contemptible position.

Also, "You Are All Diseased", one of his more famous late specials (1999), featured him going on for eight minutes about how terrorists will never attack planes and how exciting he finds death and terror.

Basically, he was a fucking edgelord.

Which is really a shame because he was a pioneer in his early-mid career. His playful attitudes with language, versatility, politically outspoken bits, strange physical humour, and fearlessness when it came to vulgarity really blazed a trail. The whole "HAHA PEOPLE DIE EMPTY WHITE BUSINESSMAN SUCKING ON A BIG BROWN DICK" attitude of his later material really undermines that.

>>9141573
That sums him up pretty nicely desu

>>9141652

lol

>>9141644

I think that it is in everyone's culture

Carlton is a god but mostly because of his role as Rufus in the most /lit/ film franchise of all times, Bill & Ted.

>>9141560
>sweetheart
Every god-damn /pol/ liberal reaction post, use some originality for fuck sake!

>>9141674
Carlin*** of course

This is what I get for mobileposting from bed

>>9141676

That pissed me off too. /pol/tards are such fucking idiots.

>>9141545
Firesign Theatre aren't all dead yet.

He seems like a meme more than anything. Desu, he wasn't that funny.

>>9141827

That's because his comedy had substance

well. i fucking love carlin. my youth was spent reading his books and basically trying to mimic him in every way, even went to see one of his shows. it was great.

I love comedy. I love smart comedians. The three greatest comedians alive that deal in social satire and criticism are (you're not going to like it) Dylan Moran in his first few specials, before he got complacent and stopped doing whatever drug he was taking, probably heroin. Louis CK. yep the cuck extraordinaire belongs here. offensive, funny, and ultra liberal in activism. (i have my opinions on liberality of comedy, it backfires on them since many libs don't want offensiveness that often anymore, which is a bit depressing.) and finally, the youngest, the only other man with talent out there, based on what i have seen of him and his work at large, Bo Burnham. his wit is quick, his intellect is severe and he uses humor to survive it, he's not fully developed but as he matures, he potentially will be the comedian of the generation, no doubt about it.

everyone will disagree. Most great comedians are lucky if they get one or two amazing specials and are out of the picture. it's just the comedian's life. and it's true of the greatest. also, man fuck politics for ruining a chat about carlin. he criticized both sides. yeah he was a liberal but he bashed the shit out of the eco warriors and the speech crafters. and he was right when he split conservatives down the middle as well.

>>9141600
Hey, can you recommend some good sources for yugoslavian history?

>>9141570
> dissing on based Doug Stanhope

Go fuck yourself. I don't agree with all his politics shit either but he's still funny black comedy.

>>9141656
i see he offended you. what a special snowflake you are. the left at first glance seems to have a monopoly on butthurt, but the right are just as easily pushed into complaining about what's important to them. you're just as fucking sensitive and he poked fun at you too. yeah he was an edgelord, but he was a funny edgelord. you'll never argue him out of his place alongside the greatest comedians in history.

norm will always be number one

>>9141656

Oh you're mad he made fun of stupid white people too? White guys who wear their baseball caps to the back and shave their head as a masculine statement because they are balding are all a bunch of faggots who deserve to be ridiculed.

>>9142048
No Refunds was an outstanding special. I love the idea of this man rising out of some shithole in New Mexico to absolutely blow out the starfuckers in LA. Even if you don't like his comedy, the work ethic is insane, he's played almost every club in America.

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Louis C.K. rolls on stage, his worm body hanging over his Ixian cart, crushes a stool with five-ton body. His face is somber.

>Fremen... I wanna be serious for a moment. I've got something I need to say.
*Crowd murmurs, some worried faces in the audience*
>My Hwi... my Hwi just gave birth to a healthy Harkonnen baby boy!
*Crowd erupts in cheers and applause, cries of "Congratulations!"*
>Nine months ago my wife was bred by a strong Harkonnen bull, and today I held the product of his virile seed in my indestructible arms. I couldn't have been more proud.
>But you know, when I was in the nursery, I looked around at the other babies too. And when I looked at the Atreides babies...
*Crowd begins to hiss and boo*
>I know how you feel, everyone. But when I looked at the Atreides babies, and more specifically the, uh, diaper area. I noticed that they all had...
*Crowd shouts in unison "LITTLE ATREIDES SANDTROUT!"*
>I couldn't believe how tiny those things were! I felt SORRY for the women who have had to put up with THAT for the past three millennia!
*Laughter*
>But when I looked down at the baby in my arms, I could see from one glance that he had a...
*Crowd shouts in unison "BIG HARKONNEN SANDWORM!"*
>I was like "Damn, this thing is bigger than me, and he's just a baby!" So much for "the golden path", huh?
*More laughter*
>I know one day he's gonna please a LOT of Atreides women unhappy with their husbands' tiny sandtrout, just like me!
*Cheers mix into the laughter, one Bene Gesserit shouts, "Me first, me first!"*
>Sorry, but there's already a hundred Face Dancers ahead of you on the list.
*Crowd "aw"s*
>Hey, you MIGHT be able to get to the top of the list... if you ride the worm of every Tleilaxu here, right now!
*Crowd explodes with excitement, chants of "SIAYNOQ!" and "Ride that Shai-Hulud!" erupt. The woman's husband cheers her on as she gets on her knees in front of the first Tleilaxu. The show ends as everyone watches the woman service Tleilaxu after Tleilaxu.*

>>9141570
>Funny in an unfunny way: Bill Burr
>Unfunny in a funny way: Doug Stanhope
unsure what this means

I also find later Carlin embarrassingly trite and edgy. The ultimate teenager's comedian. I don't follow up on comedy so I can't really speak with much authority. The only things I've seen by him have been him old and bitter and I didn't appreciate it too much.

>>9142231
You know, that was painfully unfunny.

I'm very saddened that you put so much work into it.

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>>9141545
W R O N G

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>>9143767
>The only things I've seen by him have been him old and bitter and I didn't appreciate it too much.
Listen to this album.

>>9141545
Carlin is shit. Jim Jefferies is funnier and more erudite than Carlin ever was

>>9143787
>jim jefferies
lmao 'no'

>>9143779
Alright, thanks. I've never gone wrong from trusting anon before, I'll get back to you eventually w my thoughts on it...

>>9141656
His 'infinite little daves' is a great work

>>9141545
What solutions did he offer? To claim a problem exists without offering a way to resolve it is meaningless.

>>9141545

Let's be honest. He was the last great social critic/comedian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX0zS6BZiQg

>>9143770
I didn't write the pasta, friend.

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>>9141577
LIT IS A SUBGENIUS BOARD PRAISE "BOB" AND BURN IN HELL

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>>9143787
>Jim Jefferies
I know humour is a very subjective sort of thing but Jim Jefferies is so unfunny that I feel physically uncomfortable. Major second hand embarrassment

Nobody likes woody Allen here?

>>9141545

maybe, maybe not

but thats all comedy is any more and there's no doubt he's on the long list of people to blame

Norm

>DER ARR NO TERRORISTS, DER GOVERNMENT IS LYING TO YOU
>RELIGION IS A SCAM FOR MAKING MONEY
>MAYBE THE ALIENS WILL COME BACK AND TEACH US HOW TO LIVE AGAIN, LIKE THEY DID AT THE BEGINNING OF HISTORY
>Keith Olbermann has the best cable news show in the country
Yeah, no thanks.

>>9141570
>likes Patton Oswalt
Opinion discarded

>George Carlin

He's literally just another dime a dozen "DUDE EVERYTHING IS SHIT AND THERE"S NO POINT TRYING TO FIX ANYTHING" comedians and I have no idea why people put him on such a high pedestal, other than that he was one of the first to start being really edgy about it.

That bit about election day was especially cringeworthy.

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>>9141577
>Daily reminder that /lit/ is largely a leftist board (not meme identity politics leftist like you see on tumblr). We believe in the principles of Age of Enlightenment here, far right /pol/tards don't. You're mostly bootlicking, tribal, submissive assholes, incapable of critical thought who need a strong authoritarian leader to tell you what to do.
>>9141590
>>9141600
>>9145244
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
WEEEEEERRREEEE FUUUCCKKING CHRRIIIIIIISTIIIIIAAAAN AAAANAAARCHISSTTS HOOW MANNYYYYY TIIIIIIIIIIIIIMES DOOOO WEEE HAAAAAVVE TTOOOO GOOOOO THROOOOOOOOOOUGGHHH THHIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Carlin was trash. I unironically like kevin hart more than that overrated hack

>>9142146
Lol god youre fucking pathetic

>/lit/ shitting on one of the most /lit/ comics ever
It's almost as if they know nothing of his work.
See: 'Modern Man' or 'Advertising Lullaby'

>>9141577
>Leftist
>Believe in God

Pick only one you anarcho-commie-athiest neckbeard faggot.

>>9147703
see
>>9142125

>>9147744
>>9147703
>one of the most

nice dubdubs btw

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>It's a "comedian" confuses stand up with sermon episode
>It's a "comedian" rants in way to make himself look superior to others episode
>It's a "comedian" makes "insightful" commentary episode
If you like these kinds of "comedians" you should probably kyss yourself D E S U

>>9147874
Why? Comedy allows us to laugh at the most fucked up awful and contradictory bullshit parts of ourselves. It's catharsis. Imagine how cool it'd be if priests would tell is how awful we were, all fire and brimstone, and the audience are laughing their head off!

>>9147887
Yeah I just prefer it when it's actually funny though and not just preachy bullshit or rants

>>9141577
/lit/ is an Spencer-Proudhonian anarcho-individualist board like the rest of 4chan.
Deus Vult shitters and Marx cucks aren't allowed here.

>>9141570
You're probably hard to hang out with in real life.

>>9141546
Yeah, and that's why he was funny. All conservative comedians I've seen have been as bad as female comedians, if not screechier.

>>9141577
>far right /pol/tards don't
That's a sweeping generalization that is untrue in many cases. Sad!

>You're mostly bootlicking, tribal, submissive assholes, incapable of critical thought who need a strong authoritarian leader to tell you what to do
Not really. Most /pol/ style authoritarianism wants to BE the authority that tells others what to do.

You're retarded if you think the far Right is submissive, especially in light of the European Migrant Crisis.

I'm just about convinced that anti-/pol/ faggots have never actually visited /pol/. I've never seen a good criticism of /pol/ that accurately reflects its true nature.

>>9141545
Steve Hughes and Doug Stanhope are the only good comedians of the past 20 years

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>>9141570
>George Carlin was unfunny in an unfunny way
Okay you sound a little butthurt friendo
>Patton Oswalt is funny in a funny way
>>>/out/

>>9149921
Stanhope is not funny le comedians comedian hesjust not funny

>>9141545
If you think carlin is the last great social critic holyshit do you have reddit on another tab?

>>9141577
daily reminder that half of this board browses /pol/

>>9141545
Jorodowsky? Nah

>>9149879
No, this is definitely pol. I've been there and I have never seen such a hive of frantic insecurity coveted up in brainwashed buzzwords. It's like the bullies who think they're king of the school but literally have no friends and are beaten up by their dads daily. They're like members of Jonestown who think it makes them empowered. It's really weird how none of them can see how totally cucked they are, and yet they throw that word around like a textbook example of projection.

>>9149154
I don't know mang, that might be just your nationality speaking. In France we have Dieudonné. He's a black antizionist and hilarious.

>>9147724

I'm agnostic :^)

>>9146573

Election day is pretty true though. Especially relevant now.

>>9147615

Baldy detected. Newsflash faggot, it looks like shit

>>9141545
In my opinion his best bit was about the telephone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIXL8tpKm6g

The notion of Graham Bell being an idiot with an idea about stringing miles and miles of wire around on poles across the whole fucking continent is brilliant

>>9150039

I've been on 4chan for 8 years and I legitimately believe that reddit is a better website.

>>9150177

Haha. Never saw this one. Thanks, it's hilarious.

>>9143874
I'll back anon up, early Carlin is excellent. He was funnier when he was less angry.

>>9141577
>liberal
>leftist

>>9150110
>hive of insecurity
That is a better description of /pol/, but it's more characteristic of 4chan in general (outside of /b/). /sci/, /r9k/, and /mu/ are more insecure than /pol/, and I'd venture as far as saying that many /lit/ users are as well.

Any board where personal taste can be challenged and intelligence is valued lends itself towards insecurity.

>members of Jonestown
Why? Because they tend to align with views different than yours? Because they tend to be collectivist? Do they have fervent allegiance to an ideology or group? Your analogies are weak and come off as the half-baked social criticisms of the comedian in OP.

>how totally cucked they are
I love it when people try to appropriate the insults used against them like this. How is /pol/ cucked? And don't say authoritarianism, you dropped that point. Cuck is a term of submission and passiveness; the aggression and fervor of /pol/ is what gets it the most antagonism (people get sick of hearing about politics all the time).

The best criticism of /pol/ is that people place memes and anecdotal evidence over well-reasoned and substantial discourse. It can become excessively conspiratorial, and migration from Reddit has led to an infection of YouTube drama. (All traits of nu-/pol/, by the way.) They have a tough time shutting the Hell up when they need to, which is obnoxious and turns people away.

t. browsed /pol/ for a year and a half

>>9150921
What, a board that freaks out anybody mentions anything that could be remotely right-wing in values might be more insecure than /pol/, a far-right wing neo-nazi basket weaving board with multiple generals dedicated to left-wing politics.

>>9142125
>2125▶>>9147744
>norm will always be number one
sup doyle

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>>9141577

>We believe in the principles of Age of Enlightenment here

Bend over, I'm here to rape you.

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>>9147703

>/lit/ shitting on one of the most /lit/ comics ever

You mean Sam Hyde? We're not shitting on him ITT

>>9151000

Trips confirm.

>>9141545
get out pleb

>>9141605
Burr gets anoying very fast.

>>9141605
Patton used to be hella funny circa Werewolves and Lollipops. Brainwashed moron now, sadly.

Carlin is that dude the psued in your philosophy class is always trying to emulate

I liked Carlin a lot when I was younger, he kind of gets on my nerves now. Bill Hicks will always be the greatest though.

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>>9146584
based kutuzov

>last great social critic
I hope you're joking.

>>9150921
They might want to BE the authority, but they're not, so they worship it and let it do whatever it wants, in some deluded self-insert fantasy that has no basis in their lived experience. They have literally brainwashed themselves into thinking they are powerful when they are weak, that they are in control when they are not. And, like in Jonestown, they will continue down a road they have carved out for themselves, sacrificing their energies to some ideology they think makes them transcend their drowning in the current status quo, when really they end up face down in the dirt like everyone else, only more laughable because they thought they were so much better for it.

Okay but what does this have to do with literature?

>>9151863

Personally, I don't emulate him but I do believe in some of his principles and definitely agree with a lot of what he said. Some of his comedy is super edgy which gets on my nerves but plenty of it, especially his earlier stuff is brilliant. M Ali's war refusal is probably the best 2 minutes in comedy for me.

>>9152277
>/pol/ is powerless
First, that is simply not true. /pol/'s sphere of influence extends far beyond that of 4chan; people who have never heard of 4chan are still familiar with "the meme frog" and "the alt-Right". Some of the top advisers to the American president are known to have exposure to /pol/. Dismissing /pol/ as irrelevant and powerless to culture is foolish; /pol/ has comparable viewership to many mainstream news sites, if I'm not mistaken. What happens on /pol/ does not stay on /pol/.

Second, I think you're mistaking veneration of dominance for worship of authority. /pol/ is way too conspiratorial to be said to let authority do whatever it wants. If anything, it's the complete opposite: John Podesta can't take a shit without it being a Zionist scheme. No, /pol/ wants to become the authority in that it strives to be dominant; it places value in being the dominant role of a power dichotomy.

Third, I think you might be taking memes and shitposting a little too seriously. Nobody genuinely believes in Kek.

Your Jonestown analogy is cheesy and meaningless.
>dude we all die in the end
So long as one achieves ethno-cultural dominance and excellence, one is not "face down in the dirt", from /pol/'s perspective.

>>9141545
If you like Banksy/Zen Pencils I guess

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>>9152878
You know how people say that voting is all about giving people the illusion of control? Well the whole notion that pol has power is one of the modern replacements. And it's even worse because (take the whole Kek meme as an example) it serves the ironic double purpose of being a self-aware caricature of the disconnection from any real influence, and ALSO an emotionally satisfying delusion that ones in-group IS connected to the influence. They've got pol by both balls and pol thinks they are the ones in control. They think the tail can actually wag the dog but it's a comforting lie - they are being satiated by those authorities, not influencing them. Just like in tabloid news that panders to their particular demographic.

And those conspiracies have been taken so far into those Zionist realms that they no longer hold any weight. Again, this assumes that pol has MORE power to attack authority but it is actually weakened by its own veracity because nobody takes their constant memeing seriously. Even the most hardcore prejudicial theory is fucking Facebook tier now. There is no power in this discourse, it's been sapped by becoming a pathetic parody of itself.

My Jonestown anology was to point out that the ethno-cultural dominance is someone else's vision polcucks adopt to make themselves feel equal to those in real power. Just like the libtards. Just like anyone who internalises someone else's ideology to feel more secure in this enormous human mess. You pick a team and whether they win or lose you feel more important than you actually are because you trick yourself into thinking you're playing the game at all, that some mass of alphas has your back. But the thing about actual alphas is that they don't share their power. If someone else is representing you, you're done.

Tl;dr, pol are indeed cucked.

>>9145244
hey, a fellow slacker!

>>9153072
has anyone written anything interesting about /b/?

>>9153082
Praise "Bob"! For though he is eternally spying on our private parts, when we speak his name we draw him into our private hearts.

>>9153085
Nope, because /b is not interesting. The furthest you could go is that whole "internet as a manifestation of our collective unconsious" route, and /b/ would /b/ the treacherous wellsprings of the id, but fuck it hasn't that /b/n done to death?

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>>9153072
/pol/ has tremendous power, the distinction is that it isn't a political one, but a cultural one. That's why it's so tough to detect. /pol/ doesn't hold any seats in Parliament. It does manipulate the customs, lifestyles, and philosophies of humans across the globe.

Just look at the word "cuck". Its popularity can be entirely attributed to /pol/. What is its cultural significance? Well, it imparts the values of /pol/: glorification of dominance and the masculine duty to defend resources. Everybody, even /pol/'s fiercest opponents, have appropriated it into their lexicons. /pol/'s cultural influence is incredibly strong, partially because it appeals to human instinct that has been shunned by modernity.

The difference between cultural and political power is that cultural capital is truly common. Everybody contributes to culture, regardless of socioeconomic standing. In fact, the socioeconomically deprived (poor people and social outcasts) probably contribute the MOST to culture. What's more, politicians have to answer to culture. A king in a society that hates feudalism doesn't last very long.

So yes, /pol/ does have power. It has the power to propagate the values of European traditionalism and Social Darwinism. I have more to saybut I'm gonna eat dinner first, fucking starving

>>9153085
>implying

>>9153607
Hey anon, thanks for replying I'm enjoying this. Not in a malicious way, either, just good old fashioned fun.

You seem to play fast and loose by implying that:
>pol is a reflection of culture and also a force that impacts culture.
This is circular. Pol IS culture, not some isolated motivating force behind it. It doesn't manipulate the customs, lifestyles, and philosophies, it IS a representation of those. Because of your fast and loose playing style, you could attribute any shifts in culture to pol, and cry causation when really it just reflects a shift that was happening TO pol as well as the other cultural spheres. It might just as well be politicians convincing people of their values, and then they take them into the internet and make them crass and fun.

And no, I don't think politicians have to answer to culture. I think they have to appear to answer to culture which is what I was ranting about in my previous post. Kings kill dissenters, and politicians placate them. Pol is one area where people can feel like their voices matter.

>>9141545
The only /lit/ standup comdians are/were Stephen Wright and Mitch Hedberg. Demitri Martin was pretty good too, but that's just my opinion.

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>>9153710
I think Emo was pretty /lit/ too.

>>9153072
>>9153607
Which means that ethno-cultural domination can be common; everybody who contributes to the culture and ethnicity can claim a share (and rightfully so). You don't pick your team in this instance, you're born into it, and never have to sit on the sidelines.

Political and economic powers are ultimately inconsequential because they are incapable of generating exceptional culture. Politics are a soap opera and money is paper. They will never substitute for a classic painting or work of literature.

>>9153675
Why not both? Isn't that true of all cultural platforms? Think about an art gallery. Doesn't it display and impact culture?

You're right in saying that /pol/ is culture. I'd say that /pol/ does do its fair share of the creation and reformation of cultural elements, too. White nationalism has been around much longer than 4chan, but /pol/ sculpted it to harmonize with the greater Chan and Internet cultures (cuck for sexual undertones, MoonMan for extremity and humor, Pepe as an anthropomorphic symbol of anonymity, etc.). It's undeniably a cultural force.

/pol/ is an extreme place. Extremity produces social isolation, which in turn produces cultural isolation. (I will admit that this is changing at an alarming rate.)

The king can kill dissenters (that's more political anyways), but he can't kill a hatred of feudalism. Revolutions can happen when extant political systems become culturally obsolete.

>>9141545
Are you the fucken dood that sent me his essay?

>>9154338

I am actually lol

>>9141585
John Oliver doesn't come up with any original ideas though.

>>9154275
>Political and economic powers are ultimately inconsequential because they are incapable of generating exceptional culture. Politics are a soap opera and money is paper. They will never substitute for a classic painting or work of literature.
What are you really saying here? That /pol/ CAN substitute for a classic painting or work of literature? And again it's your assumption that /pol/ is influencing the cultural zeitgeist, which in turn influences politicians, rather than the other way around. The proof for /pol/ is simply in their emotional buy-in. There is nothing tangible to claim that they come first in that chain.

And even if that were the case. What revolution do you really think that /pol/ is achieving? Like I said, they have been tricked into thinking that they are causing a revolution, when they are at best unpaid advertisers for political agendas they never came up with.

>>9153991
For sure, referencing Aquinas, Plato and Kafka. In podcast he recently mentioned his love for Proust and joked about Ulysses

>>9154553
That's exactly what I'm saying.

I do think that /pol/ initiates that chain of events, and here's why: politicians are not creative, for the most part. Their efforts are spent on maintaining power and making political decisions, not creating novel interpretations and philosophies, and displays thereof. That's why the printing press is the most important technological development other than agriculture: it allowed culture to pullulate quicker than authority could regulate it. /pol/ is comprised of creative, detached people shielded by anonymity. This is the social isolation I was referring to before. Culture is formed at the periphery of the social supernetwork, that's why the notion of "selling out" even exists. /pol/ serves as a lens for their creative efforts to be focused into tangible action.

/pol/ initiates culture because it is extreme.

>What revolution is it achieving?
Revival of traditionalism, nationalism, and ethnocentrism. Resurrection of traditional gender rules. Hybridization of libertarian and authoritarian stances. Fusion of traditionalism with Internet culture, effectively taking a lot of Evola's philosophy and presenting it in a way that is easy for people on the Internet to understand.

I think the addition of flags changed /pol/ a lot.

>>9154667
>In podcast he recently mentioned his love for Proust and joked about Ulysses
Link plz

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>>9141545

Start with the Leafs

>>9141584
>dull boring cucks who have pretend to have no opinion in order to fit in

>>9141545
carlin was cool i'd definitely drink with him. i never really liked the culture of comedians being anything but funny though, especially when they blend it equally making it unsure whether they're a social critic/comedian. although i'd say he was one of the few who didn't really sit on the fence as to which he was so he's cool.

>>9141560
Around 2011 4chan became infested with moralistic social conservatives for w/e reason. We're still here, but your numbers are larger.

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>>9156118
>/pol/ is comprised of creative, detached people shielded by anonymity
this is fucking hilarious. this entire movement of autistic fucks learning to reference and name-drop things to make themselves sound smart then to right away propagate an obviously cancerous ideology that no one who has a life and uses their brain would buy to make themselves feel like contrarian snowflakes.

it's nothing but a ploy by boring idiots who treat the entire thing as a game to seem smart, interesting and counterculture to the average person who falls for big words/big references even when they're inappropriately/incorrectly dropped.
why not trying have the balls to live in the real world without some ideology to prop up your sense of self-worth you sad fuck.

>>9157505

well they got a reaction out you, you gave them exactly what they wanted

>>9157517
being able to read and point out the crux of their tactical bullshit is a bad thing?
unless you're him trying to pathetically rescind your statement or on his side you should be learning to do the same the it's the apologist fucks that allow the stupid fucks to get things get out of hand.

>>9157322
It was on Penns Sunday School podcast. Should be easy to find. He makes a joke about Duck Mulligan

>>9157517
you responeded keke........... xd ur fukin triggered m8.

>>9141577
Daily reminder that /pol/ is spreading into an image board near you.

We're everywhere.

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>>9157505
I would think this was referring to /lit/ if I had read this out of context.

>They're just contrarians
What's wrong with contrarianism in today's world? Everything has become so commercialized and banal. Why wouldn't you want to distance yourself from it?

>people just have beliefs because they want to be snowflakes
This is the kind of thing I used to say when I was afraid of criticism and lacked the self confidence to stand up for myself. Beliefs and values aren't always a means of sating the need for belonging. They can also be derived from a set of axioms that one finds more reasonable than others. A life that wouldn't be voluntarily given for something is a rather meaningless one.

>average people
>autistic fucks
>live in the real world
>just get a life, losers!
Shaming people for voluntarily choosing isolation over socialization is a tactic of the masses to draw those at the periphery in. Average people and the real world suck; autists are way more interesting. People who want real lives, meaningful lives, want nothing to do with the average life of modernity.

Rejecting belief solely to avoid aligning with an ideology is no better than adhering to ideology simply for the uniform.

>>9158069
That isn't me

>>9158212
bad meme pic
centrists can be deeply committed to their centrist beliefs

>>9158219
yeah its called fascism

>>9158212
how'd you read this as if i wasn't a leftist and a centrist? some hardcore projection taking place here.

you talk about a lack of a need for belonging while talking about 4chan and particularly pol? that's hilarious.

because contrarians are all about entertainment, nothing wrong with entertainment, mixing entertainment with content on the other hand is dangerous and fucking stupid. even contrarians have bents and some are more harmful than others. but their content is for the most part driven on getting a reaction and when it comes to substance i'm more interested in the guy who isn't flailing some stupid novelty aspect of themselves as a way to protect themselves from scrutiny.

nothing wrong with some degree of isolation. how you conflate being alone and hanging out on pol sucking in the pol hivemind is being interesting and creative is strange to say the least.
sounds like you're some breed of weird pol apologist, have fun bud.

>>9158249
Your criticism is just as suitable for Leftism as it is for /pol/. You know the People's Temple was Leftist, right?

>>9158303
ignore most of my post it's cute. and no it's not, show me something of that sort, but you won't because it doesn't exist. you're just a spineless apologist who can't read and think for themselves so that can be hard to see.

as for your peoples temple reference, so the KKK is on the right and everyone on the right is a grand dragon nazi wizard correct? have fun being the worst kind of spineless (((CENTRIST))) apologist. see your pic >>9158212