I am dead inside. What should I read to change this? Nietzsche,

>>8986735
David Wallace, no joke

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>>8986751
Didn't he kill himself?

Listen to some animal collective and beach boys and drop some acid and you'll be born again into the world as a child

>>8986765
don't do this it will only make you more depressed

listen to something good on acid, like Black Foliage animation music

>>8986756
Clinically depressed man away from meds.
But the advice is legit.

aristotle, seneca, plato. Embrace virtues at all cost
>>8986771
>>8986771
>Black Foliage animation music
also this

>>8986735
start with the greeks

not even memeing

life for the greeks was dionysian life, where the gods were many and were real, like many ancient cultures that predated them. yet it was tempered by apollonian tendencies that enshrined it into history in a manner that renders their life intelligible to us. many mistake the finger for the moon and only focus on the apollonian and what is intelligible and plato/socrates/seneca which is a mistake.

>what should i read

is already a sign that you're on the wrong path, like many who devour "self-help" books to procrastinate actually "improving" themselves.

one does not learn, but is initiated.

Hate to break it to you, kiddo, but aesthetic appreciation is all that really matters—or at least, it is so much more important than all else that it dwarfs every other aspect of life—they drop out, as when one raises the variable of a polynomial to infinity: the one thing, the one value, alone remains. Orwell, in an essay on a pamphlet by Tolstoy that I have not read, said that the humanist spirit was (something along the lines of) that attitude that says human life is worth all the pain and ennui in the end, even though that pain and ennui should overcome the pleasure. The beautiful, having as it does a touch of pain in it, is all that one can hope for, and that is more than enough, and it is more than sufficient that you can see the poetry in those words. The poetic is the most real, anyways.

>>8986735
why do you want to change it?

>>8986822
the poetic isn't the most real, it's what inspires the poetry itself. it's the muse. the pain and anxiety disappears when one surrenders oneself to divine inspiration, rather than engaging in a sublimated form of masochism.

>>8986825
I'm bored, and the only I do feel is a bleary sense of loss.

Elle is bae

>>8986875
only thing*

>>8986875
but why do you want to change it?, do you loss something?. go with it and the sadness within.

>>8986771
is 50/50 tbqh
it can push you out of the spiral, but adjusting to real life is where it goes 10 times worse or actually makes you better
I've experienced both, lel

>>8986929
also
>>8986751
>>8986775
this
dont be retarded like DFW and DONT TOUCH SSRI

>>8986735
Elle will never be your gf, might as well end it all. Wanna do a suicide pact?

>>8986936
>you will never run your tongue over her dorky buck teeth and comment on them and make her all flustered and self-conscious while you say it's ok and it's cute while she pouts at the impression that she's unironically being teased

>>8986735
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>>8986948

>>8986735
Grow up

>>8986948
yo stop

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>>8986735
Become more emotionally mature

>>8987024
an emotional mature person can´t feel like shit?.
you fall for a meme.

>>8987033
>an emotional mature person can´t feel like shit?.
Of course. However, feeling like shit is one thing. Proclaiming to be dead inside while drooling over pictures of cute women on the internet is another.
>you fall for a meme
Your opinion goes in the trash.

>>8987035
you misguided an emotional mature person with being articulated enough to express your emotions in a mature way.

emotionally mature is a meme altough i know is a shit word and concept. social construct is not better. emotionally mature is an idol.

>>8986735
Fear and Trembling by the Kierk.

>>8987048
>emotionally mature is a meme
It really isn't though. If your argument is that it's not possible to mature emotionally then look at the way you would deal with your emotions when you were a child. Compare that to the way you deal with your emotions nowadays. I am sure you would agree you have become more mature in the way you deal with your emotions.
>i know is a shit word and concept
Stop using it then.

>>8987085
being emotionally mature is not a better thing.
if you have to make the separation between a child and an adult to make me understandable what is "emotional matureness", talk more about the low trust you have in the concept.

>>8987104
>giving a clear and obvious example means you have low trust in a concept
Is this a joke?

>>8987085
reducing transcendent concepts to mere "emotion" is a sign of emotional immaturity

>>8987122
Surely these transcendent concepts you bring up are part of the way you deal with emotions i.e. part of your emotional maturity

>>8987130"
by "emotional maturity" i believe you mean that one deals with emotions, but by transcending it it is the opposite. one refuses to be ruled by emotions when one becomes "mature". so "emotional maturity" would be an oxymoron, and your use of the concept is nonsensical.

you don't call someone who has transcended their compulsive stealing "kleptomanically mature"

>>8987122
>>8987130
>>8987166

lmao at these cucks

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>>8986735
Jordan Peterson's Maps of Meaning. It will change your life. Alternatively watch his youtube lectures

https://www.youtube.com/user/JordanPetersonVideos/videos

They're free, dude used to teach at Harvard, it's worth your time. It's basically one giant deontological reassurance that btfo of nihilism.

>>8987166
Interesting, I see your point.
>>8987171
>cuck detected

>>8986948
This shit is the reason most NEETs get depressed. Stop living in your fantasies. If you want to read something, read something dry and real. Suttree maybe

>>8986735
I want to floss her teeth.

>>8986771

black foliage but not animal collective or beach boys??

animal collective + beach boys (+mayb some mecury rev) = black foliage

>>8986751
IJ gets better after that scene with the school director or some shit?

>>8987299

>Jordan Memerson

Read Confederacy of Dunces.
It'll cheer you up.
No one in that book is happy until the end,
where nothing really happen.
Very similar to real life.
Perks of Being a Wallflower was another book that really picked me up when I was feeling depressed. You'll pick up something, maybe that you're just bound to be unhappy and have to happy with it.
Good luck.

>>8986765
Don't do drugs

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>>8986735
>Nietzsche, Camus, and Dostoyevsky have both failed

Let Us Now Praise Famous Men

>>8986735
Read the Communist Manifesto, and give your life greater purpose.

>>8986735
You have to find meaning for yourself. You can't expect someone else to give it to you.

All I can do to help.

>>8986735
Chesterton

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Honestly? Go read Nick Land.

I'm semi-serious about this, tbqh. Maybe people need a stronger dose these days to appreciate things. Read Meltdown and think about viral alien capitalism propagating through you. There's no reason that couldn't be the case. What if all that stuff were true? That's liberating. In a horrible way. But definitely liberating.

The fact that you have an I at all which feels dead suggests that perhaps you haven't looked deeply enough at stuff. Having an I and an ego that thinks, feels pain, is capable of making legal decisions, articulating sentences, or painting a fucking picture of your cat to give to your mother for Mother's Day are actually all more valuable and interesting than feeling dead inside. Go get dissolved in schizoanalysis. Try to look at things the way that Nick Land did. Stand in that hellscape for a while. Normal life might not seem so bad afterwards.

Rediscovering humanity isn't a bad thing. It's just that we take it for granted. Life is pain and suffering, but it's other stuff too. If existentialism isn't working, try Landian schizoanalysis. It has no cures and is itself probably just another meme, but what the fuck.

The other, and far saner, option is pic related. More the guy on the right than the guy on the left.

>>8986735
>Nietzsche, Camus, and Dostoyevsky have both
wut

>>8988799
nice

>>8988819
only read the intro

Eventually something really shitty is going to happen to you and you will realize how nice these days were.

>>8986751
IJ makes that feeling worse.

>>8989016
well that'll sure cheer him up

>>8986735
Hermann Hesse

>>8988428
>t. tranny tranneryson

>>8986735
You probably didn't get them. Name every book you read and describe what you've learned in at least 3 sentences each

>>8986756
>those shoulders

She looks like a trap

>>8987299
he is so fucking shit
worst tier

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>>8986735
Read The Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius

Changed my life.

>>8986735
>>8986756
Infinite Jest. It unironically changed my life the way you are describing. Also don't do drugs. Ever.

>>8986765
>>8990361
what's wrong with weed and psychedelics?

>>8990361
>tfw did drugs

never been the same

>>8986735
The gospel of Matthew

>>8986735

Emil Cioran

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Start watching Gianna Michaels porn. Yes she is fat and busted, but she makes the world seem better. Also listen to happy music. Someone beofre me mentioned beach boys. Lower your standards. Try more. Do things are are "below" your intellect.

>>8990399
her tits are saggy and her face is atrocious

>>8986735
Go to church, faggot

>>8990404

Jerk off to her exclusively for a month and come back.

>>8990415
I've done it but I regret it every time.

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you are eternal , and your tiered go to sleep.

>>8990374
Because it fucks you up even more if you're already fucked up.

t. ex drug user

>>8990443
weird, psychedelics are reported to have pretty powerful anti-depressant effects, either post-trip for a few days or when micro-dosing.

>>8986875

That is living, my dude.

>>8986735
1/Read the Dao De Jing
2/Compare all available translations
3/????
4/Profit

>>8986735
Heideigger, Wittgenstein, Joyce and Pynchon. Thats your to do list.

>>8990605

Tracing my intellectual and 'spiritual' development desu.

>>8991449

Meant for >>8991228

>>8988722
Came to post this.

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>>8986948

>>8986735
you sound like a pretentious prick who doesn't even read properly. You should probably just kill yourself- then you can be dead on the outside too

>>8986735
Nothing for it but to order a pack of oestrogen and cut off your dick, OP.

>>8990256

Good man. Poetry and prose in tandem to describe Goodness? Awesome choice.

>>8986735
go for a run and get into a fight.

>>8990605
They're also reported to have terrible effects like activating schizophrenia and panicking for 12 hours. It can go either direction but the best I've ever personally see drugs do is that they numb or distract from the pain temporarily, not a long term solution

>>8988718
>implying LSD is in any way addictive or dangerous

I've done it several times and it changed my life (not that my life was bad or anything to begin with).

Opens up your mind and lets you scrutinise your self (sic).

Some people might not like what they see, though.

>>8987599
animal collective feels pretty different from olivia tremor control. maybe just their early stuff is sorta similar but whatever, this is a lit board! good taste though

>>>/mu/

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>>8989016
>tfw waiting for life to get bad enough that I finally have the motivation to improve
is there no way to cut out the middleman?

the listlessness I currently occupy is full of anxiousness and nothing more

>>8990377
what drugs?

>>8986735

Kierkegaard

its all you need t.b.h.

>>8986771
>>8986780
what is this foliage crap? why is it so fucking chaotic? is this necessary?

>>8986735
I don't think a book is what you need, OP. If you're dead inside you need to change how you're living, not what you're reading. If someone said "read the Bible" I'd say "go to mass," if someone said "read about X" I'd say "go do X." Man isn't meant to live exclusively in his head.

Best wishes to ya!

>>8996248
I injected 50cc of dank maymays.

DON'T do MEMES kids, they will RUIN your LIFE!

>>8986735
If you're dead inside you should read a comedy like Don Quixote or Candide or something.

>>8986735
Tips from someone in the same situation.

1 don't do drugs. If you smoke weed it can mess with dopamine receptors. Look it up if you don't take my word on it. Also the first week after stopping is filled with feels and awesome dreams.

2 don't masturbate. read up on this as well. There is a lot to it that really messes with your ability to enjoy life.

3 don't think in the past so much. When you are happy you are in the moment. There are endless things to consider and worry about. Only so much that is helpful until it gets in your way. Try meditation, but don't fall for new age bullshit.

4 drink lots of water and eat as healthily as you can. Serotonin is 80% about telling you how hungry you are. This is phrased awfully and is excessively simplified, but I'm tired and the point is pretty much the same. If you don't eat right, you will be pissed off by it more consistently than almost anything else. Same with sleep.

5 if you really want to feel better read feeling good by that one cognitive behavioral therapist that's name starts with a "B". Your thoughts influence your emotions, so if your a pessimistic neurotic sad sap who thinks in black and white, you will feel awful.

You can't read your way out of suffering. Everyone is trying to describe things that are perhaps indescribable using a fundamentally flawed medium. Everything that is conveyed to you is just an abstraction, symbol, and a reflection of experience. The less mental proliferations you indulge in the better. When you do chose to take up symbols and abstractions make sure they are symbols and abstractions that point to experience.

Basically go meditate, and stop worrying so much faggot.

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>>8996544
best post full of simple wisdom

sadness is natural, nature cannot be wholly conquered

laugh and you will feel better, for whatever time is afforded you to feel better

>>8986735
fernando pessoa

>>8986735
I don't know why you think reading is the answer. In fact, it's probably the worst thing you can do.

You know what happens to depressed people who try to read? They either get more depressed, or they develop an unsubstantiated ego and warp their depression into some megalomania trip, sometimes becoming one of the many shit pseud writers out there today, or just going on to be a worthless faggot elsewhere.

The answer to your depression is life itself. You have to start living differently. Reading is idleness, it's practically anti-life.

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>>8998050
>You know what happens to depressed people who try to read? They either get more depressed, or they develop an unsubstantiated ego and warp their depression into some megalomania trip, sometimes becoming one of the many shit pseud writers out there today, or just going on to be a worthless faggot elsewhere.
The ubermensche among us know a third option, ascension.

>>8998219
>ascension
So, the second one.

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>>8986735

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>>8997200
>to be understood is to prostitute oneself
The Book of Disquiet is beautiful, but it sort of revels in misery and dysfunction. I'd hardly describe it as conducive to change, more of an outlet of experience, cathartic at best but never transformative.

>>8986735
How old is she in this picture?

>>9000102
13 years old. She'd own a farm and have 2 children in Ethiopia.

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>>8999413
>A man who fears suffering is already suffering from what he fears.
>Nothing fixes a thing so intensely in the memory as the wish to forget it.
>It is a monstrous thing that I will say, but I will say it all the same: I find in many things more restraint and order in my morals than in my opinions, and my lust less depraved than my reason.
>Of all our infirmities, the most savage is to despise our being.
>I know well what I am fleeing from but not what I am in search of.
I am sold.

A book's not going to do it, you need to do all the normie stuff, friends, girls travel

>>8986735
Read all the classics. All of them. You won't have time to think about yourself.

>>8986735
You're not dead inside if you want to change it

>>9002332
When I'm feeling like OP I find reading/concentrating exceptionally difficult.

>>8986903
going with it fucking hurts.

>>8986751
I never finished reading The Pale King, but there were sections here and there that renewed my interest in reading lit. Although his writing didn't completely appeal to me there were some other shorter things he wrote like his essay about Dostoyevsky that were outstanding.

Post more Elle.

>>8986735
get laid

will make you feel better

no joke, no bully

The bible

>>8987299
This. Holy shit, this. Spend 30 minutes and at least listen to his video on how millennials should change the world. Totally worth the time. Fuck the shills, doubters, nihilists, and puppets.

Yukio Mishima
Herrmann Hesse
you've tried these too?