/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

IS
NOT
TRUTH
INFINITE?!

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Chart again

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TELL ME

Is Flashforward decent

>>8779137
It is really boring.
>everyone sees what they're doing in the future
>brave CERN employees boldly find out sort of what happened
>oh you can kill yourself even if you saw yourself alive in the future so maybe free will exists lol
>not that it has anything to do with the plot
WITHERED
FRUIT

>>8779028
revelation space, redeption ark, chasm city

is that a good order to read them? all three just arrived

>>8779216
Chasm is a prequel.

>>8779101
Should've kept his hair like this desu

>>8778842
okay let's discuss Roshar. Dysian Aimians can create new bugs to hold more memories - does this mean they can just infinitely expand their cognitive presences? humans look like flames from Shadesmar - what do dysian (or for that matter siah) aimians look like, given that both display abilities connected to the Cognitive? Is Tashi, as referenced by Nin, one of the Unmade, dealing in secrets? It would fit their theme.
Remember the forgotten - Listen to the unheard -> ???
(actions? Care for/speak for?)

Nightblood likes Lift - of course it does.
Confirmation that the Skybreakers feel honor is something outside the self they bind themselves to.

>>8779402
Wait, we have other info on the bugmen? So the tattooed guy collecting spren is also a bugman/other spren-catalyzed life?

>>8779402
How long do you think Harmony will last once it turns into a knock-down drag-out Shard-collecting godly slugfest?

Reading The Demon Princes right now. Thanks to whoever put that on the recommendation charts, I haven't had this much fun reading a Sci-Fi series in a while. Space Count of Monte Cristo is an underutilized genre.

>>8779435
there are two kinds of Aimians, both immortal; arclo mentions axies.

>>8779670
harmony attempts to act as referee, fails miserably. autonomy fucks off to do whatever (wait isn't bavadin a guy Khriss calls autonomy She) (did the shard get passed on? trans shardholder?). Endowment covers her ears and says I can't hear you very loudly. odium murders everyone else.

>>8779790
It has a fantastic ending too. Have fun reading it.

>>8779844
>harmony attempts to act as referee, fails miserably

wut

>>8779897
He'll try to forge peaceful bonds between shardworlds because he is le peaceful eunuch but he's way out of his depth, missing a few thousand years of experience and any kind of friendship with the other gods.

>>8779945
He has to offer his sweet soft boipussy to the other gods to ream, that way he will forge bonds.
People do crazy shit for pucci, I take it gods are no different.

>Odium, my pussy is ready for you I think.

from sanderson on reddit:

Bavadin has several male personas, and has often appeared as male for one purpose or another, so it's not that much of an issue. She has more female personas, but some of the male ones are quite popular.

This won't be relevant for a long while, but as a service to the community, let me say this: try not to get too hung up on gender, race, or even human appearance where Bavadin is concerned. There are some peoples who worship entire pantheons where every member is actually her.

no wonder hoid hates bavadin. he can't stand other trickster asshole figures.

apparently Rothfuss was dumb enough to leak a page from the third book on his own twitch stream and is now throwing a bitchfit while blaming some watcher for capturing it

fucking fat manchild

>>8780187

What happened in the page?

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Is this book shit? I'm getting close to finishing LOTR and I've already ordered The Silmarillion off of Amazon. Should I bother with this one?

>>8780220
Everything by Tolkien is shit and you seem to like shit so go for it buddie.

>>8780187
>Leaks something on a twitch stream
>Gets mad when someone captures it
>On a site where you can easily re-watch past sessions unless they delete the entire session.
LUL

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>>8780220
>2015+1
>Almost 2016+1
>Still reading Tolkien unironically

Am I being a luddite, or is twitch an unseemly preoccupation for a published author? The place has the whiff of vanity that makes even youtube look more wholesome. At any rate, nothing I have heard about Mr Rothfuss makes me want to read his books.

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>>8780233
Shoo shoo, away with yee Moorcock.
>>8780240
Same goes for you, GRRM.

>>8780243
>youtube
You mean, Nazitube?

>>8780220
It's top notch, perhaps you should read the Silmarillion first before going for it to see if you enjoy the more mythological stuff Tolkien wrote though. It's not quite the same as The Hobbit or LotR.

>>8780243
I support the capitalistic urge to monetize everything, and I can see some authors being able to interact with their viewers while writing. Can't say I'd want to watch Rothfuss though.

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>>8780246
>GRRM.
Dude, you're completely out of your element. No one here praises GRRM.

>>8780243
>is twitch an unseemly preoccupation for a published author?
It's another way to broaden your author platform, but it's far from a good way to go about it. Then again, I'd love to see how many viewers a big name published author could pull if they streamed playing video games on Twitch.

>>8779790
Thanks for mentioning this anon I missed that thread and this sounds great

>>8780289
I would watch Pierce Brown grooming himself on Twitch.

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This is God-Tier. Discuss

>>8780288
I don't know any other grimdork author who's a "Current year!" SJW faggot.

>>8780220
If you like Tolkien you'll love it

>>8780340
I broke my ereader a bit through Heroes Die but it was great fun.

Might go back to it now if I can find my place

how do you plot stuff?

>>8778842
>scifi and fantasy
>picture is cover of a sanderson book
>"guides" from imgur, aka reddits image board
>unironic recommendation to read sanderson
>the only direct asimov recommendation is "The Last Question"
>NPR top picks
>people talking shit on Tolkien in the thread

You have to be at least 18 years-old to use this site.

>tfw you give your villain a generic evil stage name and just frame it as being incredibly tasteless to divert suspicion only to realize your readers won't fall for it

fuck

>>8780454
>the old "have someone comment on a cliche to show you're subverting something, then play it straight" trick
Almost pulled it over on us.

>>8780475
I mean, it's supposed to provide insight into his character. He's evil for the sake of evil precisely because he's convinced he's an edgy dipshit who's convinced he's supposed to be.

He's a former circus freak who got played up as a cambion for the sake of showbiz so he started going with it and took pride in it and eventually got convinced it was real

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>>8780498
>He's evil for the sake of evil precisely because he's convinced he's an edgy dipshit who's convinced he's supposed to be.

>>8780550
fuck, one too many "convinced"s in there

fuck, the more I explain the stupider it sounds.

this was all a huge fucking mistake. I've wasted hours and hours of my life on this garbage. all this time could have been added to the job search but no, I just had to waste it on awful writing because /lit/ kept telling me they liked it to fuck with me!

FUCK!

>>8780451
Well, there is usually only a negligible amount of science fiction in these threads.

I wonder if the genre has had its thunder stolen by other mediums. Something like the Westworld tv show, which has been a triumph, presents Philip K Dick's ideas about robots and reality in a form that is more accessible, that requires less work from the audience, most of whom would struggle to read Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep.

The advance of technology means that tv, film, and videogames offer the pleasures of SF in a way that books did previously - so that books struggle to compete.

We used to accept sci-fi books as an ideas medium; not to be read for the elegant prose, but for expanded perspectives, prophecies, warnings - so what is left when other mediums do is more vividly and more conveniently?

Well, I say, the sci-fi writer must then transcend the pulp mindset and write better, poetic and elegant. yet visionary, thought-provoking.

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>>8780578
What are you writing?

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6.5/10

It was a good book but it didn't quite hit the mark. The set up was interesting and the characters had good potential and then the pacing turned out to be pretty bad and it devolved into animu fights with extremely low impact between characters with minimal amounts of consistency.

Jury is out on whether I'll read the second book in the series or not.

Why are opinions on Gormenghast so polarized?
The general description I've read about it sounds interesting, like something I would enjoy, but people seem to either absolutely love it or think it's a fucking slog to read through it.
What gives?

>>8780620
Why don't you read the literal first page on amazon preview and find out yourself you dumb fucking nigger?

>>8780610
To Kill a God.

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>>8780598
>let me pull this theory out of my butt
We talk about SF all the time. Westworld isn't nearly as popular as Game of Thrones. You can have an engaging conversation about Blindsight or Anathem literally at will, PKD has a number of fans present, a guy that writes books on Gene Wolfe shows up now and then.

>transcend the pulp mindset
That's how you get pic related. SF writers have been trying to "transcend the genre" and suck up to the literary establishment since before Aldiss. The genre's alive, don't mess with it, that's how you kill it.

>>8780623
>hey guys what's up with this book I wanna read
>GO FUCKING READ IT YOURSELF

>>8780610
It's a shitty fucking fairy tale.

a girl who can see the future goes to bed knowing tomorrow is just another day, but wakes up to find gunmen in her house and her parents dead. She's saved by a man with questionable fashion sense who pulls her out a penthouse window and spirits her away to a circus where she goes into hiding as a fortune teller. Little does she know the magician who saved her is not what he appears to be

unfortunately I made it too obvious he's the villain by making his stage name really obviously villainous and i'm sure there are plenty of other things I fucked up that I haven't noticed yet

>>8780644
Post some of the writing. Maybe your pure skill with language will save you.

>>8780644
>a girl who can see the future goes to bed knowing tomorrow is just another day
You almost had me hooked at once when I assumed the girl sees what will happen the next day in her dreams at night and acts on this knowledge during the next day. That shit is my guilty pleasure.

>>8779402
>Nightblood likes Lift - of course it does.

figures that dumb fucking sword would like worst girl. anyway I kinda wanted to see the division surge in action, shame we didn't.


>>8779435
>Wait, we have other info on the bugmen?

one of them shows in the lift short in Arcanum Unbounded, kills two skybreakers and generally gives the little slippery street rat the creeps. they're watching all the current knights radiant apparently

>>8780654
I'll post the worst first

No sooner had she reached out to prod it than the door to the boxcar slid open, casting the whole boxcar in the harsh light of day. The pigeon bolted as Ava shielded her eyes from the high noon sun. In the opening was the most dispassionate-looking showgirl she had ever laid eyes on. Oh what fresh hell is this? She wondered.

She was dressed all in turquoise from tailcoat to skirt, and emanated all the personality and warmth of a rack of uncooked short ribs. Her voice did nothing to dispel the notion. “Oh good, you're up,” There was nothing glad in the woman's voice that suggested the oh good was anything more than a figure of speech, though if Ava was honest with herself it also didn't sound disdainful or sarcastic either. She spoke like she was reading lines off a script, and didn't care enough to be emphatic about it. “Please get out of bed, it will make my job a whole lot easier.”

Ava did as she was told while the showgirl rooted through one of the dress racks. Occasionally she would pull one out, hold it up against Ava, and then place it back on the hangar. “Master Damon's been waiting for you so we're a bit behind schedule.”

“Master Damon?” Ava asked, trying to reorder her memories of the past night. The showgirl pulled the dress rack back, allowing Ava to see the poster hung behind it. Two enormous yellow eyes stared back at her, rays of light banding from two unsettling rectangular pupils, like those of a goat. Between then stood the man who had saved her last night, a smug grin of triumph painted across his face. Between his two outstretched hands, held by neither was a flecked with lightning and sparks. The words Maxwell Damon, sorcerer among sorcerers, devil among men was painted across the bottom in the sort of font that would have looked better on a poster for absinthe, or maybe a refreshing bottle of children's heroine tonic. “A bit overdramatic, don't you think?”

“Try this on,” the showgirl said, ignoring her. It was a gaudy silken robe of swirling blues, purples and reds. Ava hesitated to stare at it too long and risk succumbing to vertigo. “He's left a package for you on the desk over there. Don't throw out the bandana it's wrapped it, it's part of the outfit. He'll be waiting for you in his office car, so I suggest you hurry.”

“How will I know which one is his office?” Ava sputtered.

“Believe me,” she muttered, stepping back out of the box car. “You'll know.”

>>8780610
Let's extend the question to /sffg/.
/sffg/, what are you writing? Have you been published before? Are you confident in your writing skill? Are you confident in your imagination?

I'm trying to put together a short story in my Cold War tech big-planet fantasy. I had a good outline for a different one but I shelved it for now, it didn't introduce the good concepts fast enough and it wasn't as fun.
I published a short short with New Realm last year, apparently they didn't sell enough for royalties. They have an 85% acceptance rate so it looks like I got taken for a ride. The story was all right, about talking swords that get hung out to dry when the war's over, but I could have put the words together much better.
Not confident in my writing skill at all. I'm eloquent when I talk and pray but turn into a stuttering moron when I write.
Super-confident in my imagination. I've got some good concepts, good weave of theme, setting, and character, decent action choreography, in my head and notes.

>>8780668
Yeah, that's where I found out there were bugmen. I thought the blue guy with the weird shadow was just some freaky wizard.

>>8780673
I'd like to write a small number of short SF stories. However, I spend more time researching (by reading and thinking about books) and brainstorming ideas, than actually doing the craft and writing. No matter how I look at it, writing fiction is tremendously difficult. I think it is the most difficult creative pursuit by a large margin.

>>8780702
I feel you. It's more fun, too. I'm trying to figure out what a caravan would look like if the modern US Postal Service had to arrange it to cross a desert the size of Canada, and all my research will just boil down to a few paragraphs, but if I don't do it anyone with any knowledge will get blown out of the story. I don't regret it though.

>>8780673
>what are you writing?
About a young Ori (A human with elvish features from the continent of Orion) trying to fulfill the steps of becoming the next Ashikkiri; a Hero from the very first days of the Empire of Man that has reincarnated continuously until the fall of said Empire. It is a dangerous and uncertain quest as he has to succeed where others before him has failed and died, and he needs to convince the major political houses/individuals to recognize him as the next Ashikkiri.

Meanwhile, there are some Humans, Ori, and other racial nations that don't want to see the rise of another Ashikkiri, because it would send ripples through the plans they have for the remnants of the fallen Human Empire.

>Have you been published before?
Unfortunately, no.

>Are you confident in your writing skill?
Fairly so, but I'm still educating myself and considering joining a local creative writing course to solidify any aspects of my writing that I don't have under full control yet.

>Are you confident in your imagination?
Absolutely, but I don't want to be too over-confident. I doubt I'll become the next J.K Rowling or anything.

>>8780673
>what are you writing?
Nothing anymore
>Have you been published before?
Nope
>Are you confident in your writing skill?
I was until today
>Are you confident in your imagination?
I was until yesterday

Just finished up Ninefox Gambit. Ended up enjoying it quite a bit and I'm looking forwards to the sequel.

>>8780727
How does it compare with similar works like Quantum Thief/Golden Age/Nethereal? At least those are what it looks like.

>>8780716
>reincarnating hero
Are you pulling from JRPGs? I've got an outline in the back of my notes that plays off a Final Fantasy-style magitek/ragtag group of stereotypes/save the world kind of story.

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>>8780630
Give me some essential cat/lit/

>>8780735
>Are you pulling from JRPGs?
No, but I am taking some inspiration from the Nerevar Reincarnation in Morrowind. I always loved the thought of someone who needs to earn and prove themselves as the reincarnated Hero instead of just being called out as the chosen one from the get go for no reason.

>>8780743
http://www.scifiwright.com/2014/04/do-i-role-play-ask-rather-do-ever-i-stop-part-three-edge-of-the-empire/

>>8780630

I was happy as a cat when I was reading that book

>>8780670
what was the point of this?

Can we have "To Kill A God" added to the charts?

>>8780756
To let us critique his prose style. It isn't much, but it isn't rotten. Not much personality in it yet.

>>8780758
Can we confirm Stevian is exclusively /ourguy/?

>>8780670
Truthfully you aren't awful or anything, but there's a lack of punctuation that makes some of this a little hard to follow and it lacks the punch that makes a POV character interesting to follow.

>>8780735
I haven't read any of those so I can't comment on their similarities.

Essentially a young but promising soldier gets the essence of a long dead general shoved into her head to lead a force to recapture a space fortress from heretics. The space empire she's from has a caste system and uses highly advanced math/calendar systems to alter reality and run their technology and get benefits from battlefield formations and so on, with the heretics wanting to deviate from the standard system to get different effects.

>>8780760
>Can we confirm Stevian is exclusively /ourguy/?

I think we can do that

>>8780617
Anime fights how? Stormlight/house of blades anime tier?

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>>8780620
Read and find out, not everyone is the same.
We all have different tastes.

>>8780763
>>8780760

oh, I try to deal out more of her personality in other parts but it's kind of difficult because she needs to be the straight man to the other characters. she's supposed to be a dubiously ethical mad scientist, but instead everything about her is dulled down for contrast. Here's an example of the intended character peeking out

>“Well you might want to come along anyway, I'm famished. Frankie, be a dear and grab our guest a vase and some potting soil, she seems to prefer to engage in osmosis.” With flourish of his wrist he dismissed Frankie and schmoozed off towards the fairgrounds. After 15 minutes of self-involved commentary, Maxwell arrived at a roasted nut cart with Ava in tow. Ava could not remember seeing so much variety. There were almonds candied with ginger and sugar and peanuts dusted with sweet paprika and salt. A bag of walnuts were being churned in chocolate and caramel. “What do you think?” he said handing her a bag of hazelnuts coated in musky sweet dust. “I pioneered this recipe myself! It's a secret blend of invigorating spices from the jungles of unknown Zanzibar. It's guaranteed to fortify your frontal lobe for two guilders a bag, but aren't you lucky this one's on the house”

>“Oh, it's coffee,” Ava determined. Maxwell's grin faltered. “coffee, cinnamon, cloves and pepper, plus a bit of sugar.”

>“Not bad. I didn't realize I had a cook in the audience”

>Ava blushed. “Not really, no. I just had a friend who liked to test recipes on me.”

>A chill ran down her spine as a thought dawned on her. Had Luca realized she was there that night? She wasn't exactly quiet, and Luca was nothing if not thorough. If he had known she was was a witness the first place he'd look is with her friends.

>For a moment the silence that draped over them took a dreadful weight, bearing down on them like a blanket of lead. Ava forced herself to push past it, and soon enough the vacuum lifted.

>“What surprises me is how mild the bitterness is. It should be enough to make me claw my own tongue out, but I actually like it. Are you dulling the flavor with small amounts of salt?”

At this point, the only real sign of who she's supposed to be comes during the part where she spends four pages telling a pigeon her backstory

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>>8780644
Sounds sort of cool.
>>8780670
It's alright.

>>8780644
That honestly sounds better than most of my ideas. Why can't you just give him a different name?

okay, gave her a bit more personality here

>“Oh, it's coffee,” Ava determined. Maxwell's grin faltered. “coffee, sucralose and cinnamomum cassia”

>“Could you repeat that?”

>“Cinnamon. The cheap kind.”

>“Not bad. I didn't realize I had a cook in the audience”

>>8780843
Honestly, I could change it. I was thinking of a color-based name scheme and giving him a name that means "cyan" would work

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>>8780773
More like pic related. I know it's not animu but one of the magic systems is elemental and there's a fight where two guys are lobbing fire and earth and water at each other.

Then there's a different kind of dark magic which causes your veins and eyes to go black and the magic itself appears as black smoke and all I could think was that it was pretty on-the-nose.

My problems with the magic systems were very secondary to the fact that the story took place over about 3 or 4 days and the established characters just go around breaking character and then marvelling at how far they've come from the person they used to be 2 days ago.

>>8780860
Is it strange if I unironically prefer cassia cinnamon to ceylon cinnamon?

lol still got /ck/ on my mind


Anyway can someone recommend a fantasy book that isn't shitty nu-epic fantasy, gritty, omg so realistic (aka super edgy dark), generic, un-fantastical, omg subvert blah blah, stupid goofy hur hurt nerd comedy in joke bullshit, romance/sexfest, YA drama faggotry, autistic magic systems, or any other garbage, but that is actually good?

>>8780897
Maybe something by Diana Wynne Jones or Peter S. Beagle?

>>8780897
I legit can't tell the difference. The only other cinnamon I've tried is mexican cinnamon, which literally just tastes like tree bark

In terms of fantasy I'm not really sure what you're looking for. The Grace of Kings is my go-to but I'm not sure if it conflicts with your "shitty nu-epic fantasy".

It's fantastic but the the magic is a very small part, with the scientific and technological development of a southeast asian society on the cusp of the enlightenment era being in the focus. It's realistic and can be violent, but it's not dark or gritty, showing both the human capacity for good and bad. The only thing that you might find objectionable is the heavy-handed feminism but even that has a deep basis in the story of han mulan

>>8780958
*hua mulan

>>8780963
my bad.

>>8780968
thanks for acknowledging your mistake and helping create a friendly imageboard culture anon.

>>8780958
>I legit can't tell the difference. The only other cinnamon I've tried is mexican cinnamon, which literally just tastes like tree bark
Really? Mexican cinnamon is generally Ceylon cinnamon. To me it tastes exactly like cinnamon candies, very spicy. Cassia is more dark and savory imo, less of a spicy bite, I find it more complex and fits better with how I use it.

Anyway that book sounds pretty interesting, I don't think I've read any Asian influenced (other than WoT if you can call it that) in a very long while, not since middle school when I read some book I can't remember about a girl in a sort of fantasy China I think that featured a chinese type dragon and some other things. Feminism in general annoys me, but I can look past it so long as the book is good.

>>8780945
Beagle is good, though admittedly I've only ever read the Last Unicorn of his works, might as well see what else he's got. Don't think I've ever read anything by Diana Wynne Jones, will look into it.

>>8780897
Face in the Frost.

>>8780983
speaking of asian-influenced lit, check out Guy Gavriel Kay's River of Stars and Under Heaven.

>>8780983
He's been cranking out comfy little short stories lately, a lot of which are collected in the book on this chart >>8779028. DWJ's most popular is Howl's Moving Castle, mainly because Miyazaki made an anime of it, but Charmed Life and The Tough Guide to Fantasyland are also good.

>>8780983
read the first book then and leave it at that, it's fine self-contained and the feminism is pretty light. It goes all-in on the second book to the point that most of the POV characters are women and being accepted quickly enough that it's actually a little unrealistic. The best scientific parts are in the second book however so it's kind of a trade-off.

As for cinnamon, it's possible I was cheated on the mexican stuff. The place I got it from was a little sketchy even for a new york deli. All cassia is just sold as cinnamon here so it's kind of hard to know what you're buying, even at the high-end places

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>>8781039
>mfw I adore DWJ and shill her when I can but still haven't read Howl's or Chrestomanci
Archer's Goon and Deep Secret and the others I did read were so good though.

>>8781055
What kind of scientific revolution? Is it Isaac Newton in kimono or do they reach conclusions in their own way? I'm working on a story that includes an Asian culture having a scientific and economic revolution, and I'm trying to make it feel like it definitely came from them, with things they realize easily vs things they never seem to figure out, attitudes toward sharing knowledge, attitudes toward ill-informed ancient chroniclers, that sort of thing.

Also is the sparse magic included in their scientific revolution?

>>8781092
It's kind of mixed. Some parts are renaissance, other parts are steampunk. Some of the information comes from excessive and often demeaning research, others are literal deus ex machinas (part of the plot of the story is that the local gods are involved in mortal matters, nudging their most interesting humans into position while in disguise)

The first book has very low-tech balloons, hang gliders and submarines.

as for the magic being in the technology, no, not really, though as I said the gods do give hints and there is a part in the first book where a augurer mentions that divination techniques are repeated a few dozen times to avoid false positives

>>8781134
>divination techniques are repeated a few dozen times to avoid false positives
I love this sort of thing.

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>>8779670
A while since Harmony is the current strongest Shard. Too bad he can't be actively aggressive.

How do you guys feel about OP characters in fantasy?

Whether or not they actively use their OP power to participate in the conflict of their stories.

>>8781147
Are we certain there aren't other double shardholders? Remind me why he can't be aggressive, is it because he's taking care of Scadrial? It feels like Ruin would let you do an awful lot of aggressing.

>>8781196
As long as they're truly OP, like impressively godlike OP.

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>>8780630

>>8781201
Remember, creating humans on Scadrial required Preservation to spend a tiny bit more power than Ruin. Harmony has presumably been letting that extra Ruin off in the form of Atium to keep Marsh around. Shardholders have to follow their Shard's Intent - Ruin and Preservation are direct opposites, so their combined Intent, Harmony, is basically the Shard of Doing Nothing.

Basically the Shards have joined to the extent (re: branderson) that if Sazed put them down they'd remain conjoined with the new intent.

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>>8781201
>Are we certain there aren't other double shardholders?
Doubtful. Only around half of the Shards total are even still whole. Regardless, he was confirmed as strongest a while back. If that status quo changes, I doubt it would occur until the modern Mistborn trilogy.

>Remind me why he can't be aggressive
Because his personality is literally harmonious and Ruin/Preservation are nearly perfect at canceling each other out.

>>8781227
>Basically the Shards have joined to the extent (re: branderson) that if Sazed put them down they'd remain conjoined with the new intent.
Right. Ruin and Preservation formed a new Shard: Harmony.

>>8781234
>>8781227
>mfw Odium's defeated but his shard's accidentally bonded to Harmony

>>8781249
>Harmodium

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>>8781205

>>8780751
...

I either need to buy all of his books or swear off playing catfolk forever.

>>8781196
It depends on the circumstances of the story. It works in stuff like One Punch Man or Mob Psycho 100 because the stakes are more about their mental/emotional wellbeing than it is about their physical state, but if there's literally nothing that makes them vulnerable in some way, then what's the point.

I click randomly at book covers on Goodreads. Anything with a scifi or epic fantasy look to it, but not the ones that are obviously romance (glistening thews and a sword? it's either a bodice ripper, or less likely a sword and sorcery) or the hated steampunk.

A cyberpunk novel catches my eye, eyes scan down the blurb like the carriage on a dot-matrix printer, promising, promising, I click "read more" to expand the description, but as my gaze continues downwards, three cursed words enter the periphery of my vision.
>Genre: Young Adult

>>8781344

Just go to reviews and ctrl f for "sexism" "misogyny" "racism", if you find them, it will very likely be a good book.

Also skip womameme authors

>>8781358
the opposite of bad isn't good mr edgy. just ask people you know and trust or barring that tolerate about books to read. if you don't know any ask here.

>>8781358
>trawling goodreads
>people giving a book 1 star because of tumblr feminism reasons
>immediately purchase book

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>>8781358
>>8781371
>making your decisions based solely off other people's opinions

>>8781363
>just ask people you know and trust
You have set the bar impossibly high for most of the people in this general.

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5 Days until Book 6 drops! The Expanse has been one hell of a good ride... Seriously for paranormal/Sci-fi that boarders on hard sci fi and political intrigue, this is such a good series. One book out of 5 so far has been pretty weak (Cibola Burn) but apart from that I have not been disappointed.

Anyone else stoked for the release of this?

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>>8781455
Some concept art from the Expanse

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>>8781464
Reminds me of this one ship from the Terran Trade Authority series.

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>>8781499
Haven't heard of that series? Got time for a quick synops?

Pic is Tycho Station, a big refeuling, way station in the asteroid belt

What did you guys think of the Enders Game/Enders Shadow series? Did you read it when you were a teen? As an adult? Both maybe?

>>8781527
Ender's Game/Speaker for the Dead were excellent. Very solid books, a lot of unexpected depth. Xenocide/Children of the Mind were a bit indulgent and get a lot of bad press but really carried the story forward into an epic vision without losing sight of the characters. So much heart it's easy to forget it's an epic.

Ender's Shadow was a decent commentary on Ender's Game, but the characters were more stretched, more cartoony, and Achilles was just dreadful. Shadow series were all second-rate thrillers.

>"Mark had thought her heritage was Oriental until she told him her ancestors were actually Finnish"

wew does does Peter F. Hamilton browse /int/ ? or is the meme true

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>>8781545
100% true

>>8781541
See, I ended up reading almost the whole Shadow series before I even realized Enders Game was a thing. I was a teen when I read it though, so I think now a lot of it is just fond memories of an enjoyable story.

I git kind of lucky in the way that I read Speaker for the dead and the more adult books when I was a bit older and was just beginning to be able to grasp those concepts. All in all,they hold a special place on my shelf for fond memories.

I also thought they didnt do half bad with the movie, as far as how well you can keep loyal to a book. I am interested to see how they spin the other movies though.

>>8781558
I also quite liked the movie.

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>>8781344

>>8781561
I thought they picked good actors for it honestly. My partner didn't care for Ender until I explained to him that he actually kept pretty true to the character in the book. He thought the actor was lacking just because he was a kid.

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>>8781582
>My partner
>explained to him
>he actually

>>8781525
It's a series of four books with a bunch of Chris Foss style "generic scifi book cover" art and some basic stories for the ships.

Great Space Battles: Mainly about Space WW2 and cops vs space pirates IIRC.

Spacecraft 2000 to 2100AD: Jane's Spaceships basically, mainly military and civil spacecraft along with some anomalies.

Starliners: As above but civil spacecraft, tourist destinations and so on.

SpaceWreck: Accidents, ghosts ships, etc.

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>>8781055
>As for cinnamon, it's possible I was cheated on the mexican stuff. The place I got it from was a little sketchy even for a new york deli. All cassia is just sold as cinnamon here so it's kind of hard to know what you're buying, even at the high-end places
Not really labelled here either but dealing with whole sticks rather than powder you can tell at a glance. Cassia is thick single layer roll, Ceylon is papery thin and a bunch of layers rolled up.

>>8781596
hot as fuck

>>8781561
>>8781558
>future is clean, not overcrowded, no reason to enforce draconian population control laws
>battle school isn't scuffed like a hundred-year-old boys' school where all the budget keeps getting sent to starships
>little no no buildup for Ender becoming a commander, precious little battle room tactics, no Bean banter to speak of
>they put Ender on an honest-to-God FTL starship, no plausible deniability that he's not commanding real ships, no reason for a hundred years to pass before the battles take place, no reason to be bracing for the Third Invasion
>forward command post where they put their most precious commander wasn't vetted enough to discover giant stone carved structures from Ender's dreams
When you adapt a science fiction story, a real one with a science-based twist, you have to keep the twist. But at least they kept the shower fight, of course you fags would like that.

>>8781617
I'm honestly not sure whether to hate it more for losing the twist or for the ipod aesthetics.

>>8781610
>in a fantasy general
>learn that there are 2 types of cinnamon
>Caribbeanfag
>only remember seeing cassia cinnamon all my life
I guess you learn something new everyday.

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>>8778954
Would you like to destroy some evil today?

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>>8781798
>steelpushing

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Day of Recreance.

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Anyone here have the leaked page? Pat compared his paged being leaked to being raped so, mind you.

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>>8781455
Terrible series.

>>8781455
ive been wanting to read this series ever since just leviathan wakes was out. im going to have to dedicate an entire month or two to knock them out some next year.

>>8781580
>broken empire trilogy
how does this series keep memeing its way onto these lists?

>>8782075
That's just one guy's opinion. Most of his recommendations are complete shit.

>>8782075

It's not a bad trilogy

>>8781994

He's a giant fucking baby what do you expect

What novel has the most likeable characters in the saddest situation?

>>8782141

Broken Empire trilogy

>>8782141

"To Kill a God"

>>8782141
Farseer trilogy

>>8782150

Stevian stop.

Stop.

>>8780670
Better than Rothfuss, your writing at least gave me vivid imagery to work with.

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Right i'm dusting off an old idea from a few threads ago to give me something to do over the Christmas break.

Pic related was a shitty chart which I made, and some anon came up with the idea we should make a massive spreadsheet of all the /sff/ major recommendations, with short little descriptions of the book written in a similar style to my chart. Doesn't have to be too funny, but the more "faggots" the better. Also try and make it at least a little related, although the purpose of the sheet will be to troll ignorant cunts and give wry smiles to those who've read whats on there. Ideally should stimulate discussion.

Anyone else up for it? I won't need a ton of help making the thing but I've only read scifi and even then not metric tonnes. You only have to write a sentence or two, let's say 400 characters.

>>8780451
>"guides" from imgur, aka reddits image board
Partly in response to this post, our rec boards are a little pedestrian.

shit imagine a blindsight graphic novel

>>8782080
>pay no attention to that working class scum
>he has zero tastes, and his chart is a troll
>read Moorcock, conan, tolkien, and gray mouser

>>8782426
Change Chasm City to Revelation Space. Makes no sense to have a title that isn't even mandatory reading as the one example to read in an actual series.

Should I bother coming up with a title or will an editor just change it anyway?

>>8782150
The bad thing about your shilling stevian, is that when someone searches for your book and download they find nothing. So no one here will read your shit, they will not pay money only to find out it's trash.

Other people in here only shill when they read the book and liked it, seeing as you are the only one in these threads that read the entire book, no one will help you shill.

Just wasting your time, go to reddit. I'm sure they are stupid enough to pay money to be beta testers.

>>8782469
This; he can give that "Star-Reckoner's Lot" wanker a run for his money.

What is with all the transsexual shit in the cato?
Are we being raided?

>>8782456
Hand't actually read it at the time, but i'm halfway through RS now.

>>8782507
You mean gaskun?
Stevian is a fucking idiot. I told him how to shill in goodreads the last thread, he didn't want to listen.

Ppl there would be shilling the book to friends and family, but he wants us to do the work for him.
Fuck stevian.

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>>8782900
I guarantee I do about 20% of Stevian-shilling because it's hilarious and "To Kill a God" is the kind of title one of us would come up with. Gaskun's too sincere to really mock, and All Besides I doesn't have as much meme-value. Besides, Scott Carroll doesn't have embarrassing questionnaire interviews available:

>Do you read much and if so who are your favorite authors?

>The Hobbit got me into writing, and I really liked Animorphs growing up. Those books and Phantom of the Opera are all I have really read, save small horror story collections and history.

>Which book inspired you to begin writing?

>I didn’t have a direct inspiration, but I used to roleplay a lot online, so I just transitioned from making characters to interact with other people to being a one man roleplaying club.

>Have any new writers grasped your interest recently?

>There’s a video game series called Danganronpa that has some very talented writers that put light novels into their games as a reward for clearing the game. Whether it’s new or not can be debated, but I am fond of their work.

I was looking for a new fantasy series to read, by looking at wikipedia among other places. What's the deal with John Norman and his Gor books? They appear to be both popular and controversial, with Michael Moorcock campaigning for their censorship, even. Are they merely pornographic?

Speaking of Moorcock, I ordered an omnibus of his Runestaff series which I am looking forward to as a relatively inexperienced reader of fantasy (only having read GRRM, and this year Gene Wolfe - I mostly read SF.)

>>8782466
Come up with a title that's attractive to a publisher and that pops.

>>8782466
Just use a shitty working title, you will probably want to change it yourself anyway when you are finished.

>>8780620
Because people are idiots. Gormenghast is beautiful.

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Hey guys, I'm looking for some sci-fi that explores AI from as many possible angles and as expansively as possible. Is there anything like that?

>>8783263
The Golden Age.

>>8783263
Hyperion & sequal is cool, in a kind of mythical and godlike way

Has anyone read the Carnivores of Light and Darkness trilogy by Alan Dean Foster? It's mostly just vignettes of a group of stereotypes traveling through weird places, the wise magical negro herdsman, the lame comic relief lecherous swordsman, the cool talking panther. The characters beyond basic descriptions are just about as forgettable as possible but I keep remembering the neat places they'd go to, like a wildfire being spread by these magical carnivorous zebras, or a place where water pooled in floating spheres or a country where fish fly.

Looking back it was probably just his RPG sessions, but I had a fun time anyway.

>>8782172
>getting cucked by your father figure and being happy about it

Fitz deserved everything he got.

>>8783666
i blame the writer for that
I guess it pushed how much he loved her that just her being looked after and maybe even happy was okay. Could there be a better man to do it then a man he respected.

I was really painful to read. don't want no cuck shit in my books desu

>>8779790
The end of The Face had me in absolute stitches.

>>8783364
Seconding this. You have to read the the second Hyperion book as well, though, that's when it really gets into the AI goodness.

What's the funniest fantasy you've ever read?

Hope you guys like Rothy because we're gonna get fucking inundated.
http://www.thewrap.com/lin-manuel-miranda-produce-feature-film-tv-series-kingkiller-chronicle/
>“Hamilton” creator Lin-Manuel Miranda will be the creative producer behind an ambitious feature film and TV series adaptation of Pat Rothfuss’ fantasy book trilogy “The Kingkiller Chronicle,” Lionsgate announced Tuesday.

>Miranda will serve as a producer and “musical mastermind,” and will compose original music, as well as write the songs. Miranda also has an option to be involved in future stage adaptations of the books as well.

>Lindsey Beer is writing the feature film adaptation, based on the first book in the “Kingkiller Chronicle” series, titled “The Name of the Wind.” Simultaneously, the planned TV drama series will “expand on the world outside of the books.” Miranda and Rothfuss will be involved in the development of the new characters and storylines explored in the TV show.

What Fantasy books have cute catgirls?

>>8783949

Oh for crying out loud what the fuck

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>>8783949
>it's real

>>8783949
Hollywood is running out of ideas so they are gobbling up the book market.
They see the shekels that GoT brought in so they are trying to duplicate that.
>the magicians
>expanse
>name of the wind
>???

Ursula le Guin must be super jelly. Rothfuss ripped her work off and is going to get millions for it (probably used to it since billionaire Harry Potter)

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Is A Song of Ice and Fire 0.5 worth reading?

>>8784271
>reading Tad Williams
>ever
Kek go right ahead

I want to start reading and need some suggestions. I know there are the links in the OP but I wanted to know the reading level of them? My english is fairly good but I have trouble with some more "experienced" words. I would also like to ask what crime/fantasy related books you would recommend?

Thanks!

>>8784275
What's the deal with him? I'm not familiar with any of his stuff.

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>>8783949
>tfw if I can manage to get my fantasy book series published Hollywood will snap it up

I've got to hurry up and find an agent.

>>8784283
Pretty much everything that isn't by Wolfe/Peake is easy. Anyhow you shouldn't dodge more difficult stuff because that way you will never improve.
>crime/fantasy
Finch by Vandermeer

>>8784239
>Ursula le Guin must be super jelly.
She has had extreme, mounting pain of butt since the early '70s. You could shut down all the coal plants in the Northwest and power them all on Le Guin jealousy.
http://bookviewcafe.com/blog/2015/06/01/up-the-amazon/

>>8784292
>Anyhow you shouldn't dodge more difficult stuff because that way you will never improve
Just to give an example, I read Mein Kampf (translated by Bob Carruthers) and I had to drop it 1/3 way into it because it was way to hard too understand.

But I will take a look a Finch by Vandermeer

>>8784288
Hi Stevian. It will not be snapped up by Hollywood.
To them and their audience, there is only one God, and you using the word "a" implies that there are multiple. They also won't allow you to kill God.

>>8784288
>Hollywood will snap it up
Lotta confidence there, buddy. If it's any good, expect the wait to be 5+ years added onto the 2 years it'll take for your agent to find a publisher and for them to get it published.

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>>8784288
Why would you want Hollywood to pozz your shit up?

>>8779028
>No Acts of Caine

>>8784313
I dunno, maybe cash or fame or something.

I can't see the Roth fuss movie or show being popular. The books are only fun because of the Gary stue self insertion. The plot lines are mostly terrible.

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>>8783954
I would also like to know this. All the ones I can think of offhand are technically SciFi.

I humbly request a status update from the anon who is building a library in a shipping container to house the thousands of SF paperbacks he obtained (from a liquidating bookseller, IIRC)

I am just a man who likes to look at racks of books.

So the rest of you feel free to take a picture of your paperback collections - or perhaps show us an interesting volume and tell us about it. Show and tell.

>>8784345
If it's money you're after you should get a real job. As for fame, well, I suppose getting your stuff adapted into garbage you can watch on your electric jew does earn you the adoration of morons but that's not worth much.

>>8784296

Tell me more

>>8784352

I wonder how the hell they're going to manage the sex thing, since it's pretty crucial "character development" for him

>>8784352
game of thrones got popular

>>8784437
Film Lin-Manukvothe having sex, of course. How'd they handle it in GoT?

>>8784466

No I mean he was there for fucking months, and it's Lionsgate, not HBO

Halo.

Lionsgate
>The Hunger Games
>Divergent
>The Twilight Saga
>The Day After Tomorrow
Tbqh bros, I'm probably going to enjoy The Kingkiller Chronicle in movie-form.

Pardon me asking here, but do you know where does the popular fiction that gains attention online usually get posted? Sites like fictionpress or individual personal blogs?

>>8784495

/sffg/

For example "To Kill a God" is an extremely popular novel right now

>>8784500
Christ!

>>8784367
There has been progress, though I did warn you about my crippling laziness. A little public shaming might be some measure of additional incentive. It's already dark on weekdays, but I'll see if I can get something. Also, maybe a pile from one of my caches to make it worth your while.
>tfw still buying more books every month

>>8784509
Stevian Heartbound may well be the Second Coming.

>>8784562
I must have had a sixth sense that you were about. Well, here's to your health, and your hoarding. It puts my pile of a dozen unread books in perspective.

>>8784500
You're hilarious anon. Poor Stevian should be taking notes.

>>8784610

A criminally underrated author of tremendous talent.

>>8784649
>>8784610
"One of the greatest authors of our age" -N.K. Jemisin

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>>8784649
>>8784747
Only charging $9.99 for the Kindle version is a great act of charity from a great man.

>>8784772
>quipping with yourself in the mirror during your morning routine

I can see why this book gets memed on so much.

>>8784562
Why haven't you been box posting boxanon?

>>8784495
Probably wattpad.

>>8783043
The first one is allegedly a passable to good pulp novel, after that it's just porn.

>>8783043
The spider plant cringed as its owner brought forth the watering can. "I am a spider plant!" it cried indignantly. "How dare you water me before my time! Guards!" it called. "Guards!"

Borin, its owner, placed the watering can on the table and looked at it. "You will be watered," he said.

"You do not dare to water me!" laughed the plant.

"You will be watered," said Borin.

"Do not water me!" wept the plant.

"You will be watered," said Borin.

I watched this exchange. Truly, I believed the plant would be watered. It was plant, and on Gor it had no rights. Perhaps on Earth, in its permissive society, which distorts the true roles of all beings, which forces both plant and waterer to go unh appy and constrained, which forbids the fulfillment of owner and houseplant, such might not happen. Perhaps there, it would not be watered. But it was on Gor now, and would undoubtedly feel its true place, that of houseplant. It was plant. It would be watered at will. Such is the way with plants.

Borin picked up the watering can, and muchly watered the plant. The plant cried out. "No, Master! Do not water me!" The master continued to water the plant. "Please, Master," begged the plant, "do not water me!" The master continued to water the plant. It was plant. It could be watered at will.

The plant sobbed muchly as Borin laid down the watering can. It was not pleased. Too, it was wet. But this did not matter. It was plant.

"You have been well watered," said Borin.

"Yes," said the plant, "I have been well watered." Of course, it could be watered by its master at will.

"I have watered you well," said Borin.

"Yes, master," said the plant. "You have watered your plant well. I am plant, and as such I should be watered by my master."

>>8784843
The cactus plant next to the spider plant shuddered. It attempted to cover its small form with its small arms and small needles. "I am plant," it said wonderingly. "I am of Earth, but for the first time, I feel myself truly plantlike. On Earth, I w as able to control my watering. I often scorned those who would water me. But they were weak, and did not see my scorn for what it was, the weak attempt of a small plant to protect itself. Not one of the weak Earth waterers would dare to water a plant if it did not wish it. But on Gor," it shuddered, "on Gor it is different. Here, those who wish to water will water their plants as they wish. But strangely, I feel myself most plantlike when I am at the mercy of a strong Gorean master, who may water m e as he pleases."

"I will now water you," said Borin, the cactus's Gorean master.

The cactus did not resist being watered. Perhaps it was realizing that such watering was its master's to control. Too, perhaps it knew that this master was far superior to those of Earth, who would not water it if it did not wish to be watered.

The cactus's watering had been finished. The spider plant looked at it.

"I have been well watered," it said.

"I, too, have been well watered," said the cactus.

"My master has watered me well," said the spider plant.

"My master, too, has watered me well," said the cactus.

"I am to be placed in a hanging basket on the porch," said the spider plant.

"I, too, am to be placed in a hnaging basket on the porch," said the cactus.

"I wish you well," said the spider plant.

"I, too, wish you well," said the cactus.

"Tal," said the spider plant.

"Tal, too," said the cactus.

I did not think that the spider plant would object to being watered by its master again. For it realized that it was plant, and that here, unlike on Earth, it was likely to be owned and watered by many masters.

>>8784843
>>8784849
holy shit this is gold

>>8784843
>>8784849
Damn it's so transparent that I got a boner, being the sub that I am.

>>8784786
The book doesn't get memed on as much as the author. I just got the free sample.

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Bout to dive into Dune

Who here has read it / enjoyed? Is it worthwhile?

Just finished Sabriel

The setting and concepts were cool as fuck and the romance wasn't too cringy for YA (thankfully almost no time was spent on it) but I just can't get over how awkward Nix's prose is.

Every other sentence is phrased awkwardly and I found myself taking forever to get through the book because I would constantly correcting his syntax.

>>8784239
>Hollywood is running out of ideas
You mean they ran out of ideas more than 30 years ago. In fact even at that point they were still ripping off literature and theater whenever they could.

>>8785023
Weird stilted prose has been in vogue since the 90s, that's what it means to be "literary" these days.

>>8785023

I loved it, I didn't even pay attention to the prose just what was happening

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>>8784619
Thanks anon.
>>8784789
The aforementioned affliction, I guess. Won't be terribly excitingly until the drywall goes up. I'm usually hanging around here though, just posting other stuff.

Progress so far:
Framing is basically done. Lots of insulation up (had to get it out of way). Turns out I got almost enough free insulation to do the whole thing. Bought the door a while back, but too afraid to hang it yet. Currently puttering around with electrical. Not sure what all kind of wiring I want to put in for my other hobby, computers (the reason I purchased this container in the first place).

The bankruptcy of Hastings has further stretched my storage resources... Didn't find many books, but I may need to dedicate a bookcase to weeb garbage :3

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>>8785090
Random sampling from the archives.

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>>8785127
>Raid on Qaddafi

>>8785146
Apparently it's the memoirs of the mission commander for El Dorado Canyon.
https://www.amazon.com/Raid-Qaddafi-Historys-Longest-Directed/dp/031207073X

>>8785007
I read it after I read Ender's Game series, which was my first SF. I like the story but the world building is the only element I found to stick with me through the last 2 years since reading it. Personally I thought a lot of the same concepts as far as philosophically were better presented in the later Ender Series books. I consider Ender Series as the reason I got into more objectively meaningful reading after having started just looking for entertainment, so you know my bias. Maybe if I had read Dune first I would prefer it, in any case Dune is still well worth reading.

>>8785181
It would be a great name for an SF novel if Gaddafi didn't exist.

>>8785181
There were a few things that the bookstore misshelved. I also did a double take when I saw the Qaddafi book.

>>8785127
Hearsay about Philip Jose Farmer gives me the idea he's the kind of author you go to if you just can't get enough late Heinlein.

>>8785202
Well at the least it sounds interesting compared to some military biographies. I got one by a USMC Harrier jump jet pilot who was in Afghanistan and it was mainly him bitching about how being deployed sucks and how he missed his wife.

>>8785090
>>8785127
This project looks really interesting. Where is the container anyway? Do you rent the space for it?

>>8785317
I live in the middle of nowhere on 20 acres of desert property (yeah, with my parents). Hopefully the container can be transported when I've saved enough money to get my own place.

>>8785352
Well they're designed to be transported the question is more if you can afford to have it transported.

>>8785365
When I was looking to buy this one, someone offered to drag it out to my place for $100. I figure it can't be too bad, unless I move to the coasts or something.

>>8778842
What fantasy book is really new, not part of a series, and a great read?

I never see anyone mention newer fantasy novels because "fantasy has gone to shit" but surely there must be a couple out there

>>8785430
>I never see anyone mention newer fantasy novels
>there are countdowns for Bakker and 100-post Sanderson discussions
>Jonathan Strange mentioned every other thread
>>>8780617

Meanwhile
>>8780598
>Well, there is usually only a negligible amount of science fiction in these threads.

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>>8780673
>/sffg/, what are you writing?
Episodic adventures of a "soul artist" exiled to the ruined desert continent where he has to throw his lot in with a heretic swordsman who stared at the sun too long, an amputated escapee from the jackal-men kingdom, and a jackal-man assassin who takes care of a giant scorpion.

They each have their own little backstories I'd like to delve into, but I'm having a hard time developing an endgame beyond "confronts the evil empire."

>Have you been published before?
Almost, but that was years ago - I retracted my manuscript and never touched it since. I don't think I'm a good enough writer at this point to tell that story.

>Are you confident in your writing skill?
Not at all. I think I'm a good writer, but I think that's because I'm so meticulous with fixing all the absolute shit I churn out.

>Are you confident in your imagination?
In some ways.

>>8785430
The Last Days of New Paris

>>8785437
you forgot
>not part of a series

>>8785430

What >>8785437
said, and to add to that:
You can't go wrong with "To Kill a God"

>>8785437
I think he was discarding the whole Sanderson thing because, you know.

He's shit.

Some anon in the last thread was asking for a recommendation of a story similar to ASOIF, but never got a real (you). SO, to that guy, try out the Riftwar Cycle. There are parts of the series with political intrigue, combat, plot twists, and the recursion of previous encounters woven into an interesting universe. It has it problems of course, but as the books go there is clear improvement. I can elaborate further should you wish it.

god, the unemployment blues have hit me so bad I can't enjoy reading anything. I went back to have another go at Soldier of Arete and I couldn't get through the forward before I lost interest

>>8785461

There are sanderson that isn't part of a series (might become in future) but are good for standalones right now, like Elantris

>>8785467
I am not liking Elantris due to cringey humor and I just can't get myself to care for the characters. A random MC could fuckin die right now and I would consider it an improvement just because it makes it more interesting

I have way of kings but after what I've seen in Elantris idk if I wanna sink any more time into Sanderson

>>8785478
See >>8785479

I just can't into Elantris

>>8785474
What is that? unemployment blues. Never heard that expression.

>>8785488

It's when you're drunk every day because of unemployment.

Like blue monday except blue every day

>>8785488
I'm depressed all the time becuase I've been unemployed for almost 4 months without hope

>>8785488
He doesn't live in Cuba.

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Alright got my next book lined up. The main character sounds like Locke from the description but I didn't want to dismiss it out of hand just because of that.

Also looking for suggestions on fantasy books with one or more POV characters who are actually witty/funny/sarcastic/that type of thing. Love me some heroes with a sense of humour.

Just read "The Great Hunt" and it was fucking amazing. No idea why you cry-babies keep shitting on the wheel of time.

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>>8785560
because it's an awful, overwrought, horrifically paced mess that has literal entire novels' worth of extraneous wordcount lmao

Are there any sites out there that do reviews for a entire series? I mean sometimes it's kinda hard to find out if a series stays good because the only people who will stick with it past the first book(s) are the ones who love it and thus are quite unlikely to give it a even-handed review.

I've got a question more specific to /lit/ as a whole but since I like scifi I'm here.
What's the general consensus on piracy? I remember on /co/ we'd hulkbuster someone asking for comics but I rarely see it anymore.
Can I ask for books I can't find or is it frowned upon?

>>8785789
book piracy isn't really a common thing. I mean pirated my textbooks and at least one cookbook but there isn't a lot out there

>>8785789
Mostly we get annoyed. This isn't the place for requests like that.

>>8785800
ok thanks duder I won't ask for books here

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>>8785795
>there isn't a lot out there

>>8785789
>>>/t/689479
>>>/t/680325

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>>8785813
I think he was being facetious

>>8785818
thanks babe

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First Lotus Wars book was pretty good for YA stuff, but I'm about halfway through the second and it feels like peak YA silliness.

>main character starts bleeding from her ears and nose, but the real problem is that HOTBOI1 is talking to another girl!

>HOTBOI2 is angrily brooding because the MC literally stabbed him in the heart

>there's another character who is literally called "shit girl", her brother is gay

>>8785824
wow is she wearing a body suit? sure looks like she could kick my ass

>>8785818
>>8785813

>there have been book piracy sources all this time and I never found them

wow. what a time to be alive

>>8780673
I asked the critique thread how to make it not obvious that the sweet girl the MC wants to protect is the villain. One guy replied, with a laughing reaction image, and said he could imagine the reviews already. That took the wind out of my sails.

I'm still fairly confident with the rest of my ideas, but the girl's villainy is the spine of the story and it'd be really hard to rip it out right now.

does Lost Gods stay full redneck the entire story? I liked what i've heard but inbred hicks are not my aesthetic

>>8785898
Hey, I had that sort of idea a while back, have a George MacDonald-style half-fairytale with the young knight coming upon a wicked queen's castle in a wood, and she's imprisoned a fair maiden, and it turns out the maiden's running everything and the queen is absolutely loyal and loving and ara-ara-ara. She's one of my favorite character designs even though her entire personality fits in a sentence right now.

>>8785898
were you the one with the lil'est cancer patient villainess? I thought that idea was hilarious, and believe me nobody would even begin to expect it. it's not like you named your villain Maxwell Damon or some shit like that

which redwall books are the best/worst?

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>>8784843
>>8784849
First I thought it was a comedy, then I saw it's use to get sexual acts under the radar.

10/10

>>8785430
Library at mount char

>>8785430
The Golem and the Jinni

>>8785457
Last days of new paris was pretty good in concept, but the characters meant nothing to me and the plot barely existed. It was more a painting than a story

>>8785919
Nothing about cancer, but I did say she was dying if you're extrapolating from that. If it's hilarious that's fine, I'd be happy just having people enjoy my work, even if they're laughing at it.

>>8785916
Innocent girls who turn out to be huge cunts is one of my favorite tropes. I think one-sentence personalities can be great if done correctly.

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>>8784843
>>8784849
This turns me on. I kinda want a whole book of pure kinky plant BDSM now.

What has been the best Fantasy in the past 15 years that isn't The first Law or anything Brandon Sanderson cause even though I like him he is a rather flawed writer.

>>8786100
Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell.

>>8786114

Why do people like Johnathan Strange and Mr Norrell? The pacing was horrendous

>>8785952
>best
Salamadastron
>worst
Rakkity tam or outcast

>>8785560
As someone who loves WoT:

The Great Hunt is still one of the good books. You don't really start running into trouble until book 7 or so. Books 3, 4, and 6 are easily some of the best in the series.

On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the worst, how cringey are my fantasy names?
>Salvane
>Zhuleth
>Felmad
>Valonn
>Krejell
They're mixed in with more normal names like Murdoch and Miles.

>>8786132
I'm on Book 4 right now. My favorite thing about 3 was the almost complete lack of Rand. He's better now but goddamn he was such a boring faggot for the first two books. I'm sure it was by design but that doesn't make it any better.

>>8786133
7

Valonn is okay but if these all belong to main characters I hope they have shortened nicknames.

>>8785952
I enjoyed the ones with more adventure, like Salamandastron, Mattimeo, Pearls of Lutra, everything with Martin in it, as opposed to stuff like the one where the mousemaid raises a ferret. I remember really loving the ones with the bellmaker's daughter too. Haven't read the last half of them or so.

>>8786134
See I'm the opposite. Rand's brooding is one of my favourite things because I can just sort of see it. Dude is under a lot of pressure and where all the other characters attempt to dodge their responsibilities he's busy pretending like it's not fucking killing him.

>>8786133
https://bondwine.com/2013/01/07/gwladys-and-the-ghraemlan/
>I am sorry to make a bad example of my friend Jonathan Moeller, but when I first began to read his Demonsouled series, and the first two characters I met were called Mazael and Gerald, I was thrown out of the story long enough to cry aloud to the unheeding night: ‘Mazael is good; Mazael is right and proper. There ought to be a fantasy hero named Mazael, and now, thank God, there is one. But why on earth is he hanging out with someone whose name is a foreign monstrosity like Gerald?’

>>8786123
British books are slow, dude.

What are the best SFF short story collections? Was thinking of checking out JG Ballard's collection.

>>8786136
fuck, the first one is the main character. He'd probably go by Sal, I think that works.

>>8786142
So either full fantasy or full reality? That's something to consider.

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>>8786142
>Robert Jordan’s names are cringingly awful. Take Rand al’Thor: evidently the name of a Dutchman who was named after a Norse god by Arabs, if internal evidence is anything to go by. Trollocs is a bad enough word, reminding one irresistibly of trollops as well as troll-orcs, but nothing compared to the ghastly names of their tribes: Ahf’frait, Al’ghol, Bhan’sheen, Dha’vol, Dhai’mon, Dhjin’nen, Ghar’ghael, Ghob’hlin, Gho’hlem, Ghraem’lan, Ko’bal, Kno’mon. A man who can perpetrate a travesty like that, and deliberately put it into print, should not have the freedom of the streets. He embarrasses the human race by ass’hoh’shieh’shun.

>>8786218
>Rand al’Thor
Of all the fucking names in the series he takes offense to Rand?

>>8786201
Le Guin's essay From Elfland to Poughkeepsie is actually really good, if you can find it. There's a copy of Language of the Night hanging around file-sharing sites. Tolkein's On Fairy Stories is also excellent.

>>8786221
He takes offense to every single name in the series.
http://fantasynamegenerators.com/wheel-of-time-names.php

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>>8786218
>He embarrasses the human race by ass’hoh’shieh’shun.

>>8786218
Problem with this is that the naming in WoT is pretty good about adhering to its internal consistency.

Rand grows up in what could be northern/western Europe, and the 'al' in his name even draws the attention of the Boderlanders (who are roughly middle-eastern for the most part) as a naming convention that they use themselves.

As for the trolloc language, well their names don't come from an English root but from something totally alien and primitive as far as we should all be concerned.

>>8786142
>>8786218
This is some vicious bullying.

>>8786231
>alien and primitive
>gob'lin
>ban'shee
>grem'lin
>de'mon

>>8786218
>Trolloc tribes
I think they were mentioned like 3 times off hand over the course of the series.

I didn't even realize they were all just monster names.

>>8786266
>>de'mon

daemon
daimon
damian

>>8786249
This guy sounds incredibly bitter.

>>8786179
I'd definitely recommend reading the first two Witcher books (Sword of Destiny, and The Last Wish). The actual series has some pretty glaring pacing issues, but the episodic nature of the short story collections are a much better fit for the post-modern fairytale deconstruction style that is the meat of the series.

>>8786100
The Powder Mage series was pretty solid, probably not the best, but above average.

Who has the best prose in fantasy?

>>8786492
Kazuo Ishiguro

>>8786492
On form Peake

Nobody else can even compete

>>8786511
If the goal is to make the reader fall asleep the quickest, then yes, no one can compete.

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I'm buying some gifts via Amazon and thought I might as well get some books for myself as well.

What are in your opinion the fantasy books one HAS to read?
So far I've read the Mistborn trilogy, some Pratchett and some Tolkien.
Is Harry Potter any good or just a meme?
I also have an interest in philosophy and RPGs, if that helps.

tl;dr
What books should I buy?

>>8786568
You're probably too old to start Harry Potter now. They're good intro fiction for kids, but aren't worth much more other than for nostalgia purposes.

>>8786568
Keeper of the Swords series by Nick Perumov.

>>8786496
You better be 100% with that book.
Or I will lend all my autism to destroying it like I did red knight, dhalgren and others.

>>8778842

New Thread
>>8786621
>>8786621
>>8786621

>>8786133
4
I always go by how pronouncable the names are because it has to be a series of sounds that somebody actually thought sounded nice. Your names sound good

>>8786123
If by horrendous you mean perfect, then yeah.