>IQ time?

>does taking her really make you stupider?

No, but taking an IQ test does.

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>>8750152
Sorry, I'm a doofus and auto correct fixed me.

Atleast humor me...that is, unless your self conscious about your results..

>>8750133
None of the people who post here have an IQ as high as they say it is.

>>8750133
116*, tested for the military. Up to that point I bought into the "YOU'RE A GENIUS HARRY" bullshit my relatives and some of my teachers sold me. Hearing that I'm only a bit above average made me sad. I don't think IQ is really a measure of innate ability but it still correlates with academic and professional success without a doubt so that hardly matters.
Yes I'm "AGP" smdh tbqh fampai.

*Kinda. It was a weird two-part test divided into "theoretical" and "practical" sections. The former involved things like abstract thought while the latter involved a lot of spatial stuff, mental rotation of objects etc. I scored 132 in the theoretical section and a perfect normie 100 in the practical one. The examiner said they average the two out at the end.

>>8750133
only people with above average IQs ever post their IQ

130
B lean hetero

>>8750133

In 7th grade, I took an SAT test without preparing for it at all, it was spur-of-the-moment, I knew about it about an hour ahead of time and didn't do any research or anything. I scored higher on it than the average person using it to apply for college in my area.

An IQ test has shown me to be in the 99.9th percentile for IQ. This is the highest result the test I was given reaches; anything further and they'd consider it to be within the margin of error for that test.

>>8750266
Wow same here. I kinda want to take an official test one day, and I'm really good at the "abstract" stuff. Like, feel like I'm living a meme. I was the smart middle child, while my brother and sister were stupid. Had plenty of regular people tell me I'm clever, smart, ECT.

Figured out pretty fast that I can't be as smart as I think if I'm still relatively poor.

Why are us "agp"s smarter? Is it, smarter people = higher chance of mental problems? Tism? Something else?

And it does seem to be in the abstract thought area too.

tested by a psychologist so id say its pretty valid. 159, bi cis girl but i dont reallt believe in iq anyway

>>8750330
>159
Whoa

>>8750133
Pointless, completely and utterly pointless, I was measured to have an IQ of 169, 140, 128, and 87 it is completely subjective based on the test you take. IQ is as good as snake oil.

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>>8750330

>>8750334
>Those incredibly varied results
Really? Were those proper meatspace tests conducted by professionals or internet tests?

>>8750330
160 is genius-tier.

So no, you don't have an IQ of 160.

>>8750337
The professional tests were the 160 and 140 ones, the internet ones were 120 and 80

>>8750346
I should note that one of the "Professional" tests I took were maxed at 140 which was where I got 140. IQ is bullshit from start to finish.

>>8750346
I see. For real, I don't think IQ is an objective measure of intelligence or that it measures innate ability but there are really clear correlations between IQ and success in various fields. Even if it is not a test of absolute intelligence it is a test of a certain kind of it and scoring that high does indicate something.

>>8750340
I'm no genius, I never said that. Genius is defined by how you use your intelligence. And I don't really use it, honestly. But again, IQ is bullshit. It measures your skills to do a bunch of useless tasks that don't apply to real life intelligence at all. But the results I got are definitely true.
>>8750331
I feel like the reason for such a high result was that I was tested when I was 9, I think the younger youre tested the higher the result. Nowadays the only thing noticeable about me being "more intelligent" is that I don't study at all or pay attention in class yet get Bs and As. That's it. I don't think that's real intelligence, honestly. Also I got several results in several areas. My lowest IQ (I don't remember in which area, maybe Math?) was 135. Still pretty "high" though, but doesn't mean much
>>8750336
for you

134, Bachelor's in medicinal chemistry and training to be an accountant

I'm smart but feel like I peaked around 16 and have been getting dumber ever since

>>8750293
Hi darqwolf

I tried to take one of these online iq test, but they're always so boring and I lose focus halfways. Problably not a good indicator if a high iq.

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>>8750379
>159 girl
>about to study fucking illustration when this guy is studying medicinal chemistry

>>8750391
Actually, that doesn't mean anything. In fact it could really mean you have a high IQ. I can't go through those internet tests and when I did I got a fucking 90. My real IQ is WAAAY higher

>>8750363
>It measures your skills to do a bunch of useless tasks that don't apply to real life intelligence at all. But the results I got are definitely true.

funny you say that. im op, and i literally use those stupid pattern recognition bs skills all the time at work, and have gotten raises for being "smart" and "creative".

an example would be - our product comes out of the cook cycle, but the ph doesn't match up for some reason. All the managers and owners are scratching their heads saying "uhh, maybe it didn't cook for long enough" or something, and throw all the product out. It would be fine for a few weeks, and then it happens a few months again down the line, same issue. All these people would literally just say "i dont get it", where i've noticed me and one or two other "smart people" would be able to break down the process, cross reference the variables and figure out the problem was "the declorinator" wasn't working" or "the culture batch was crap" or whatever. But i would have never been able to come to the conclusions i've come to, if i couldn't recognize the patterns that seem to overlap and whatnot, and use this information in properly "diagnose" the issue. I think these puzzles measure a more abstract form of algebraic reasoning, in which you remove context and numbers and measure a persons ability to properly come to a conclusion that yields accurate results.

>Genius is defined by how you use your intelligence.
i thank this is true tho. You could be pretty smart, but you have to be in a position to use it. And getting into that position means you have to want or care about something. And it seems caring isn't something smart people do very often. Its so much easier to just shut off your brain and react to stuff.

>>8750393

my post is >>8750346

I'm in engineering, don't listen to stupid fucks that say everything else is useless, it's the capitalist system of slaves that makes it so.

>>8750397
desu, while that example does show a form of intelligence, to me the true form of intelligence has always been maturity for some reason.
Also yeah, it doesn't really matter if I have "genius tier IQ" when I'm a lazy ass unmotivated lil piece of shit and I do nothing all day and I'm too lazy to even try to think. Might be related to having OCD, depression and anxiety (are mental illnesses related to IQ? I feel like there might be a pattern)

>>8750393
>studied
Finished, struggled a lot with it though. Realised I forgot to say my letter, I'm a mtf tranny

134 is literally 99th percentile anyway, I sceptical your 159 is accurate

>>8750408
I don't think it's useless, and I do enjoy it and I'm good at it. However it's always felt like I'm not using my "intelligence", but I don't like anything else, so...

>>8750266
>tfw you're literally the dumbest person ITT
REEEE first I'm trans, then "AGP", and now this. Can't catch a break. Ya'll have cool stable jobs and I'm a (so far) unsuccessful game designer. Just end me mein senpaitachi.

>>8750422
hold on, i'm trying to find the test results, i have them somewhere around the house. will post pics of what i can. it's in spanish though

>>8750416
>Might be related to having OCD, depression and anxiety
same here, had some slight ocd as a kid, though went away pretty fast. Still pretty anxious, especially when im driving. Got in one care accident and now every car that slows down to slow in an approaching lane gives me a little freak out.

>are mental illnesses related to IQ? I feel like there might be a pattern

they do say that. I always thought people like us who tend to "overthink things" or, we kinda see more shit happening all at once, and it can be kinda overwhelming. (like, a shit load of "stupider" guys i hang out with tend to not be able to see the consequences of the stupid shit they do, and keep fucking up over and over where as people like me see the possibilities shit could go wrong immediately) I've gotten over pretty much all of my anxiety by just going out and doing stuff i was afraid of. Its really stupid when you get over it, your all like "what the fuck was i even freaking out for?". Plus, constantly focusing on what could go wrong with everything is literally the worst way to live. I've found that looking at things with fear leads to anxiety, leads to depression, leads to drinking.

>>8750427
>Ya'll have cool stable jobs and I'm a (so far) unsuccessful game designer.
i've always wanted to do that, as nerdy as it sounds. How is it? Do you work solo, or do you have a team and stuff?

>>8750133
IQ is generally a poor metric for intelligence. I'm a 147, I have the paper somewhere at home--pretty even distribution on the separate sections.
I'm a tranner.
Not on HRT, but FT a few years, cause I'm riding on a puttering ovotestis.

>>8750439
nvm i cant find it
>>8750468
i still have pppretty strong ocd and anxiety and mild depression i guess. im taking sertraline which is really really helping, but my problems focus mainly on death. kind of relevant to this iq thing too, smart children are aware of death very soon and i remember how when i was 6 or so i puked thinking that one day i was going to die. i think most kids become aware of what death is (like REALISE what it is) when theyre 10~

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>>8750468
>How is it?
I don't know how representative my experience is of independent game development as a whole but for me It's a mostly depressing emotional roller coaster with some rare moments of elation. If you try to make anything actually new rather than just copy others the process involves, without exaggeration, throwing out dozens of ideas you implement and test for every idea that shows some potential in practice. The difference is that, for an artist, a sketch takes a few hours at most while for a game designer a "sketch" can take a week. You regularly end up tossing away months of work.

Here's a 101 on what game design as a discipline is actually about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI26gAB1OgM

>Do you work solo, or do you have a team and stuff?
I program and design myself but commission artwork and license music/sound effects.

>>8750485
>puttering ovotestis
so your like, intersex? Jelly. which way are you going?

>>8750488
>but my problems focus mainly on death.
lol that reminds me of this video i saw on youtube about anniken from star ways actions could all be boiled down to a fear of death. They said that there was some famous philosopher who said alot the actions of that character come from his fear of death.

Im guessing your not religious tho, so you probably have a strong view of what you think death is. I read a quote from Socrates basically summing up what i think - you really cant know what death is, so you cant really have an honest fear of it. Its almost like fearing change, its probably becouse its something you know is going to happen that you can't control. If you depressed, then how would death be bad? Is it just some fear of not existing anymore? Doesn't seem so bad. All the goods gone, but so is all the bad.

>>8750509
probably depressed because of my other mental illnesses, though. and like i said i think its very mild. only real depression symptom i have is a complete utter lack of motivation to do what i used to enjoy. but what i fear about death is how permanent it is, its like... eternal. just a never ending black. for the same reason i hate the concept of a "heaven" because itd be endless, that sounds asphyxiating. im agnostic/atheist, but if there's an afterlife i'd like to believe in, it's definitely reincarnation. sounds ideal

>>8750340
>.01% = 0%
brainlets

>>8750334
just because you take shitty IQ tests doesnt make the good ones bad, IQ is consistent and scientifically accepted claiming otherwise is being anti-science

>>8750500
>I program and design myself but commission artwork and license music/sound effects.
thats super cool. I honestly kinda picked up coding as a kinda hobby to see if it would be fun (plus, playing video games as a kid - naturally i'de want to try and make one).
I get the logic just fine, and i started with an easy language, python. The real issue is the amount of knowledge you have to absorb just to do the simplest stuff. Its like, specializing is a must. Plus, i get how simple code works with loops and stuff, but engines are kinda boggling. Like, is it constantly just re-reading a bunch of loops over and over again until some input is detected? How complex would that system have to be? And if you build it the wrong way, you could have performance issues and stuff, right?

And dont even get me started on "object oriented". I've read about it, but i still don't get it 100%. Like, reusing all these real world terms makes it kinda hard to understand whats really going on under the hood.

Do you have any work to share?? I'de be super excited to see how an experienced programmer actually works.

>>8750521
Whats scientific about it?

>>8750521
iq isn't scientifically accepted. there are many, many many flaws to it. its not consistent at all. there are so many things that could alter your result, it is a highly subjective test, leaving the whole "what is intelligence" dilemma aside. it is completely possible for someone to take two official tests with the help of a psychologist and get very different results. it depends on your age at the moment, how youre feeling, the psychologist...

>>8750509
Mtf
I was amab, have fairly normalish genitalia (other than a perinial raphe that's basically mini labia), I don't resent my parents for /that/. Mid teens though I had some breast growth, and lactation--but my mom wouldn't take me to a Dr. for it, and they wouldn't hear anything about transition--so I had to wait until I was financially independent.
So here I am, at 22 filled honned up.
I was able to grow a full beard, I have a 38" band size, really decent hips and high average fem shoulders though. Idk if its because of the E levels early, but i had the most crippling dysphoria of any transwoman i know.
I almost have c cups, and because of band size, they look like skeeto bites.
Just means reduced T, increased E--but still need hrt asap. I'm poor though :(
have the worst type 3 I've ever seen on a person irl

>>8750379
IQ peaks at ~16, interesting that you could notice that subjectively

>>8750133
for anyone interested in IQ, especially those of you who deny its utility/existence/accuracy
heres a pretty good takedown of pretty much every argument/taboo surrounding IQ
https://youtu.be/Y1lEPQYQk8s?t=45m45s

they talk about IQ starting at 45:45

>>8750519
>but what i fear about death is how permanent it is, its like... eternal. just a never ending black.
lololol how old are you, not trying to make fun, but i kinda went through the same thing.

>but if there's an afterlife i'd like to believe in, it's definitely reincarnation. sounds ideal
funny you say that. I remember constantly thinking about death after i graduated hs a few years ago, and i eventually came to the conclusion some form of reincarnation has to exist. I don't believe in any form of god or whatever, but i think that learning alot of how computers work and the implications of artificial intelligence has kinda led me to the conclusion that awareness/consciousness/life is something inherent in all forms of matter of sufficient complexity. If it just, poof - goes away after your body stops powering your brain, that would mean the "soul" is nothing more than the energy in your body (eletrical, biochemical, ect), and since matter/energy cannot be created nor destroyed...

>>8750542
im 18. cringey age
sadly i dont believe in reincarnation. i wish i could. but it feels like conscience is a very unique thing, at least in humans.

>>8750535
damn, that sounds bad. I guess wishing for legitimacy through some form of intersex condition isn't all its cracked up to be.

Atleast know people will still always be jealous of you for what you do have. I'de kill to have smaller petite features, and you already have breast growth and stuff before hrt.

Im sure you'll make it if you just apply yourself. I've always been poor. Poor senpai, terrible parents ect. But i've just worked my ass of and have come a long way, and just got my prescription for hrt friday from a doctor. Im literally about to start once my paycheck hits on tuesday, and i feel like my life is moving forward for the first time in a long time. Plus, everyone at work already kinda knows, and joke about me showing up a girl one day, but they're kinda nice and supportive in there own way.

My 'therapist' said that support seems to be the number one thing a trans person needs to have a happy fulfilling life. I hope you have people there for you.

>>8750538
especially those of you who deny its utility/existence/accuracy
lol its funny when you think about it. The deniers probably arn't smart enough to actually realize how influential it is.

>>8750558
you just need to get out there lol. Im sure you'll get over it. Just some post school disease or whatever. Alot of people seem to go through alot after the last few years of school, so much change and no more school, all the time and the world to sit and think about shit to get you down. I would say though, if your single - stay single for a little while. Jumping into relationships because of unhappiness is a recipe for disaster. I tried it out a year ago, and felt even more insecure and depressed than before. You need to find that positive outlook before you find someone, otherwise your happiness will depend on them.

>>8750566
Yeah, I'm just about done with college, and I'm scraping by to get through that financially--my parents cut me off completely when they found out. I'll graduate this spring, and then have a super cushy job.
Sadly, I had my letters for suporn before he retired, but an issue with a scholarship happened, and I was literally between "finish college" and "get suporn SRS".
But yeah, like I mentioned, I planned on transitioning, I identify now as trans--my experiences with dysphoria and trans struggles are pretty similar to every other transwoman, just my genital dysphoria is through the goddamn roof.
Grats in getting HRT though! :) I'm going to try the castration method the anon did the other week on my T producing gonad, and see if that makes a difference next blood test.
Support wise, yeah, it's super important. I have a few online friends that are cool with it, and a couple really close irl friends. Plus I pass okay, so I don't have alot of issues with strangers.
Breast growth pre transition was super awkward in my teens--I was in scouts, and so with swimming all the time, it was a rough time

>>8750525
I think programming looks a lot more complex than it actually is. There are hard problems for sure but you'll rarely run into them in practice unless you're a researcher or are pushing the boundaries in some way. Otherwise almost all of the things you're trying to do have already been done by someone else and you can look at how they've done them.

People might turn their nose up at Python and it is true that when it comes to some tasks, like 3D stuff, it might be too slow but it is also used a ton in machine learning/AI in general. It's a perfectly functional language if you're not looking for intensive real time performance. The main problem with only learning Python is that it leaves you blind to how a lot of stuff actually works behind the scenes and that hampers your overall understanding of programming. If you have a fair grasp of Python and are interested in an almost literal look "under the hood" check out The Elements of Computing Systems. It's an introductory text that guides you through designing a simplified computer from logic gates (some parts are abstracted away so you don't need to understand electrical engineering), writing an assembler for it, then a compiler, then an operating system, then a Breakout clone. I know it sounds complicated but it really isn't and knowing Python should be enough.

>Like, is it constantly just re-reading a bunch of loops over and over again until some input is detected?
Yes! Computers are incredibly fast nowadays so it isn't as taxing as you might think. You check for input, call some functions depending on the input, then go through the update loop where you change (or don't change, depending on the time and the input) the state of things before repeating the process. I think game engines have a reputation for complexity purely because real time 3D physics simulations are complex by themselves.

>>8750584
not single. 1 year and 8 months with a guy, pretty happy with him. my problems arent related to school, ive had them all my life. i do hope i get better, but its more serious than a school thing. medication is working without any side effects, thankfully

>>8750525
>>8750597
>Do you have any work to share?? I'de be super excited to see how an experienced programmer actually works.
I'm actually not that good of a programmer. I'm just competent enough to write what I need and I don't need anything too complex. I'd rather not be identified as a 4chan poster so I hope you understand if I don't post anything that can be connected to me here.

Overall I feel like the big challenge in game development is not programming unless you try to simulate physics/network in real time. It's almost entirely design.

>>8750601
you sound alot like my roomates gf lol. She's been with him for about 2 years or so, and she's pretty depressed and just kinda talks about her ex 24/7 and has to take meds because of her social anxieties. She actually just got out of the phyce ward, becouse she was cutting herself from depression. Like, she doesn't have any particular problems with her life and seems to be doing well, but just seems depressed all the time. When we go out, she cant even place orders some times because she's so scared lol. I've always had an aversion to meds, cigs are bad enough i dont want any more addictions. I hope you find something that will help you enjoy life more tho.

>>8750594
>Grats in getting HRT though! :)
thank you!
> I'm going to try the castration method the anon did the other week on my T producing gonad, and see if that makes a difference next blood test.
oh wow. Thats seems super sketchy, and i would totatally advise against it. Before i went legit it wasn't hard to get some pills online. I would like to say don't do it, but i get how hard it is for some people- so if your 100% sure its going to make you happy, good luck.

>>8750597
>The main problem with only learning Python is that it leaves you blind to how a lot of stuff actually works behind the scenes and that hampers your overall understanding of programming.
yea i figured that out, and tried to migrate over to c++, but i got lazy and said "fuck it, i want results now" and picked python back up.

>computer from logic gates (some parts are abstracted away so you don't need to understand electrical engineering)
lol i actually kinda taught myself the basics of eletrical engineering just to understand how logic gates work, and watched how people use arduino to build stuff using wires and logic gates. I delved to deep though and started learning about a bunch of other stuff and burned out like always tho. I even remember seeing some sort of "build your own 16 bit computer" and then

>>8750643
meds are very demonized for some reason when theyre really helpful. also the one im taking isn't addictive. i dont really self harm and i dont have social anxiety at all, never been to a psych ward either

>>8750597
the logic gates thing clicked. I've also read about assemblers and compilers and stuff, but still don't kinda get it, but i guess thats what the books for. Will put down on my list of "to do's".

>I'd rather not be identified as a 4chan poster so I hope you understand if I don't post anything that can be connected to me here.
lol i get it. But that must mean that your successful enough to have some work out there worth being recognized by, sly dog just fishing for complements lol.

Thanks for all the info tho, i find its better to get some knowledge from people than google, like - all i've learned was ripped form 20 different books and pages on the web. Its totally awesome to know that i could have learned it all from one book (sarcasm, obv).

Just curios though, what kind of game do you make?

>>8750656
lol didn't mean it like that. I just come from a family of pill popper coke sniffers, so i've grown a (probably) irrational fear towards them.

>>8750661
Glad to help. I'm sure your background will make going through the book really easy. I mostly make weird puzzle roguelikes.

took a test from a psych that capped at 160, got 157+ (missed one question but apparently that wasn't enough to set upper bounds)

>>8750594
>Castration method
How?

>>8750566
>The deniers probably arn't smart enough to actually realize how influential it is.

its like trying to explain how important colors are to a blind person.

>>8750768
Calcium chloride dissolved in 190 alcohol, injected into the tissue.
Apparently it hurts like a bitch, but well worth it

>>8750538
Didn't know it peaked at ~16 so I'll have a read of that later.
It was both exam results and how well I could understand new concepts and run things through in my head. I miss it. Used to be able to pick things up so quickly and now I have to work so much harder.

All the tests i took was between 120-140
Bi man, agp deep inside

>>8750828
Another anon mentioned trying it over on /tgg/. We don't know how that turned out yet though.

I had 138 in 10th grade and it was an actual IQ test and mtf

>>8750875
but think of all the knowledge youve acquired since then

>>8750133
Mensa tested 130 IQ here

I feel as if taking HRT has made me smarter desu. If anything has made me stupider, then it's all the mental illnesses I picked up in response being a depressed tranny.

130, got tested in school at 16 to get into our gifted program, it was a "legit" test. B, T. Haven't started HRT yet, I wonder if it really does drop your IQ. I certainly hope not.

>>8750266
>Hearing that I'm only a bit above average made me sad.
Why do people care so much about "IQ"?

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Bi guy with IQ somewhere in the 120s. Too bad I'm a lazy pice of shit with a shit degree no goals in life.

>>8751173
Oh, and since everyone else seems to be sharing their career choice, I'm going into aerospace engineering.

>>8751116
oh yeah forgot to say that I took the test at 18 and I'm studying Mechanical Engineering

there seems to be way more engineers than usual in this thread hmmm

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>>8751198
i know that feel

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>>8750133
150 IQ, this was test from this year, too.

>>8751253
caraposter?
isnt schizophrenia associated with lower IQ? thats crazy high

>>8751196
Because my life is shitty in lots of other ways and pride of an objective pointer to my intelligence feels good
I really hope I don't get dumber on HRT

>>8751246
Definitely bias in here, you're more likely to come in and state iq/profession if you're happy with it

This entire thread can fuck off and go back to plebbit. None of you are as smart as you think, if there were really this many people with 140+ IQ this board would be a lot less idiotic.

>oh 178 IQ btw

>>8751321
Cara is associated with lying. Take her 150 with a pinch of salt.

>>8751196
I kind of answered that in that post.

>>8751343
>None of you are as smart as you think,
ouch. my official iq is 93.

How did all of you guys get official IQ tests? I guess I never sought them out.

>>8751365
You're just as average as you think
>>8751374
They didn't, I'd say the majority of people here who got "professional tests" and scored 130+ are either lying or took some shitty online IQ test that they payed for.

>>8751196
There is a rather strong correlation between IQ and success

>>8751387
i don't think i'm average and i have the test results to prove it.

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>>8751387
>people with high iq cant say stupid things
>if most people in a board are idiotic then so are the people in this thread
>im the only person allowed to have high iq
man, for someone who claims to have such a high iq, it does sound like youre projecting with all these fallacies. also, 159 girl here, professionally tested because when i was 9 my teacher suspected it and maybe i could skip a year (which i did) so we got a psychologist to test me for a preeeetty long period of time.
if you dont believe that there are people close to you (implying youre saying the truth yourself) then thats up to you being a pretentious manchild

>>8751399
Muh correlashuns.

>>8751418
girls can't have iq over 110

>>8751439
speak for yourself anon

>>8751439
FTMs do.

B, maybe T idk
144
Tested when I was young
I'm a diagnosed sperg so that probably has something to do with it

>>8751492
M2F*

>>8751429
Correlations are real but of course causation is a different issue, and correlations only work when applied to populations. They can't predict what will happen with a specific individual, only give you a sense of the probabilities.

>>8750133
152. IQ is arbitrary and is vastly used for bragging rights.

>>8751418
I was being sarcastic, I've never tested my IQ. I skipped grades and was always in the gifted program at my school though, so take that as you will.

>>8750133
i scored in the top 1% last time i took the test, which is like 138 i think? my father's iq was 135, mother's was 145 when she was young (her iq currently is about 75)

>>8750594
>I'm going to try the castration method the anon did the other week
Don't do it. That anon thinks it would be a bad idea. >>8751721

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>>8750133
im t (hsts)
my iq is 80

86
:^)

>>8750133
Bi FtM, somewhere around the 99th percentile across a few GATE-qualifying tests. I haven't been tested as an adult, but it's supposed to be stable by 7-8ish. (Lower stability is found in studies that test children only once vs. adults multiple times.)

>>8750334
>>8750346
An internet test is indeed worthless, so your "real" result is somewhere between 140 and 169. Most IQ tests are normed around the average and tend to have a ceiling too low to accurately measure the IQs of higher-IQ people, so you are correct that your results are probably just an extrapolation that amounts to "99th percentile plus."

But no, IQ tests are not bullshit. IQ studies are just about the only thing that aren't affected by psychology's replication crisis - I've heard them described as "boringly replicable." IQ data is VERY solid, and meaningfully predicts life outcomes for groups.

>>8750360
It does measure innate ability. Not perfectly, but pretty well and quite consistently. IQ tests exist because of the discovery of the positive manifold - that is, every cognitive skill correlates to some degree with every other cognitive skill. That's a reflection of "g," the general factor for intelligence. (Think of how a great athlete will generally still be much better than the average person even at a sport they've never played. That's g, whereas their ability at their specific sport is a reflection of "s" factors - skills that can be trained.) The goal of the development of every IQ test is to maximize the testing of g and minimize the s factors. It's impossible to COMPLETELY eliminate s factors from affecting the test scores, but you can get pretty close with tests of geometric logic puzzles that don't even require language.

No, that's not a "specific type of intelligence." It's intelligence itself - the ability to learn, reason and synthesize information.

>>8750340
One out of every 30,000 people has an IQ of 160.

>>8751754
how tf did her iq get so low?? does she have a problem?

>>8751828
>but you can get pretty close with tests of geometric logic puzzles that don't even require language.
Things like deductive puzzle games can prepare you for them. There are also factors like how you handle stress, how confident you are in your own ability and so on. I don't deny the correlation of IQ with various factors but we just completely lack the tools to isolate "innate intelligence itself" from everything else.

>>8752588
>Things like deductive puzzle games can prepare you for them.
Yes, you can "study" for an IQ test, but that defeats the purpose and has nothing to do with the efficacy of the test.

Let's say you work in a grocery store and the head office likes to send around anonymous people at random intervals to check up on you. They've determined this is a good "test" to determine the average day-to-day functioning of the store. (Just go with this example and say it works.) Then let's say you have someone at head office who is friends with your manager repeatedly tip them off as to when your random check is coming. So the manager is able to get everyone to clean extra in advance, can schedule his/her best people for that visit, etc. Suddenly this random "test" is no longer an effective way to determine what the store will look like on an average day. But it's not the fault of the test, given that you didn't take it as intended.

And yes, for an INDIVIDUAL person, you can get varying scores on an IQ test for various reasons. You'd want to take an average of several tests, ideally spaced out far enough that you effectively weren't "studying" for the next one. So what? An individual sample in a study rarely means anything. It's the aggregate data that matters; and the aggregate data tells us that IQ is very meaningful, and that we can measure it pretty well.

>>8752903
That's not a correct analogy. It's trhe equivalent of testing a player's skill at a game after them having just practiced vs having not played for a while. Besides just like any particular game, "IQ" is a learned skill.

>>8751890
nearly a decade of abusing opiates and being almost entirely bedridden while mindlessly watching movies for hours a day.
zero mental stimulus + zero social activity + zero physical activity + horrible diet + mental illness + drug addiction, extended over the majority of my childhood. she's doing a lot better now, but she barely functions at a fourth grade level now

AGP, score 132-135 on the Wechsler test
much lower on tests that are pure spatial reasoning

>>8752961
damn, thats sad. im sorry

>>8751343
>the (false) assumption that 130+ IQ people can't be idiots when even Le Relativity Man said "only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
Let me do the only sensible thing here that is removing 1 from your IQ, my man.

>>8750133
I have no idea what my IQ is but i'm probably not that smart. I never finished highschool(cuz I became a depressed neet), push carts for a living, have trouble remembering stuff, can be a slow learner and can be slow at complex tasks. For example doing a math test i'd lose marks for taking too long.

What sort of IQ range does that sound like? I happen to be strongly AGP as well. I live as a cishet man though.

>>8753852
>What sort of IQ range does that sound like? I happen to be strongly AGP
About 110 to 120 tbqh.

funny how online everyone is 120+
while ~100 supposed to be average and most common

also being a total loser despite high iq and some talents and good looks cause you are depressed tranny who gave up on life fucking sucks

>>8750133
T, probably AGP but I don't really care.

128

Got tested some years ago by a 'qualified staff member' at school.

I don't really understand how I got 128 on a test that is basically just mathematics. My strong suits are linguistics and the humanities, not maths (that said, my maths teacher didn't actually teach anything for 2 years straight in HS).

>>8753852
depression can hinder your cognitive ability

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>>8751321
In reality, though, Trent gave me an IQ test and he said that I have an IQ of around 95.

>>8753883

People who get 100 post "IQ doesn't mean anything" comments instead

>>8753883
wow, the same people who are attracted to weird communities on the internet with lots of in-jokes, weird foreign culture obsessions, and subversive political and rhetorical methods also tend to be smart? who would have thought?

>>8750133
Trans, 141. Tested a few years ago before I realized I was trans.

>>8753936
What are your subversive political beliefs?

>>8753940
ancom

>>8753898
Hmmm well I haven't constantly been depressed, it's been up and down. I was diagnosed with type 2 bipolar as a teen as well. These days(in my early 30s) I use weed to cope(my cognitive issues exsisted before weed though). The combination of bipolar and gender dysphoria/AGP has a very bad synergy now that I think about it.

>>8751343
do you think every poster in each thread posts in every other thread on that board?


thats some 178 in action right there fellas

>>8751374
if ur a fuck up in school (hyperactive autismo) sometimes you get tested to see if ur retarded or just weird. Theres nothing inherently wrong with taking an IQ test online as long as its a good test. ASVAB (military) and SAT/ACT are basically IQ tests with some extra stuff added, if you get ~90%ile on IQ you will get ~90%ile on ASVAB or SAT
they just throw in some big words on the SAT so normies think studying will help and obscure the hard truth that we dont get to choose how smart we are ("just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and study harder next time")

I never took an IQ test but I got a 1510 on the SAT in the 80s (780 math 730 verbal) and a 1510 on the GRE in the mid-90s (770 quant 740 verbal). Straight mtf.

>>8751408
half a standard deviation below the average is pretty much average

>>8753944
anarchosyndicalists here
ill fight u to the death

>>8753989
sounds like a waste of our resources, let's just team up and then deal with sectarianism later

t. leftypol

>>8752903
The thing is that a lot of skills of certain types carry over to similar activities. Just solving puzzles of certain sorts for fun leaves you better prepared. Hell, just having taken a lot of tests leaves you psychologically better prepared.

>the aggregate data tells us that IQ is very meaningful, and that we can measure it pretty well.
IQ IS meaningful! It means a lot of things! It just can't serve as an absolute measure of intelligence. Not because there's some other test you could administer that could but because traditional tests as a whole are inadequate. I think that it's a psychology versus neurology thing, and that we'll eventually find an empiric "hardware" solution.

>>8753993
nice try commie fascist

127, ftm. I was tested twice, but I can't even remember the second time despite it being fairly recent.

>>8750133

Like 188. I took an online IQ test but I know it's accurate cause I like reading unbiased news sources like Breitbart.

132
androphilic mtf trans.

>valuing single-point IQ test over Weschler Scales of Adult Intelligence

Some guy that diagnosed me with ADHD said i have 200 IQ which made me happy at the time since i was 11, but i slowly realized i'm just like the rest. i probably have an average intelligence or just above average at best. I used to have the ability to learn fast which went away when i got depressed and it went on for 6 years, but it's coming back since i'm recovering.

mtf btw.