/tgg/ Trans Girl General

>>8744218
New OP here. We haven't had one of these for quite some time and I'm going to try reviving it. I can't get into /mtfg/.

>>8744226
Good idea, anon. I can't get into /mtfg/ either. It's just a horrible place, even compared to the rest of this board. This place is usually pretty comfy and chill.

>>8744254
The tripfagging ruins it. I've seen people complain about everyone being anonymous and thinking it would be better if we were forced to use IDs. That's pretty laughable when you see the way /mtfg/ is.

>>8744278
I don't think I could post here if there were IDs. It doesn't feel like a safe space unless everything's untraceable and unconnectable.

I was out taking a walk in the park this evening and some fucks came up to me and started telling at me about stuff I didn't really catch any of it because I kind of ran away because I was kinda spooked and thought I was about to die or something but basically how do I live life without ever going outside ever again?

>>8744278
I don't know. I think I and even a few side trips from /mtfg/ are okay. It's the erp and fragmented inclusive conversations that kill it. It's a party, and we aren't invited.
I really came here to be sad.
I don't have any particular grievances; living is hard when you are so distraught about your condition you are afraid to even bring it up for fear of ridicule to those who could help you for fear of being struck down by those you love the most with the best of intentions. Suicide is easier. A cis person does it it's a 'Tragedy'. They blame drugs. They were depressed. A trans person does it it seems it's more 'oh well they were Troubled anyway., they start a group about Trans Acceptance. I don't know, I just think we diminutize people too much to distract from the 'icky' parts of society. With trans it's the issue of mental health. It's not en vogue to make fun of someone with, say, Crohn's disease. We need to focus less on the visceral accepting liberal identity politics and on the sober issues of wellness and treatment. For all mental disorders. Calling someone mentally ill pejoratively should be like calling a black man nigger, apt in essence, but reviled in society to the point that doing so results in social suicide.
Also, I like to trip because I believe in the things I say, and like to stimulate discussion. And hope to become friendly with other regulars, though that has yet to happen.

>>8744635
Telecommute. Debit card. Online shopping. Treadmill. I'm sorry for you. I was scared of walking anywhere in this safe town at night long before I knew I was a tranny. I subsist on terror.

>>8744636
I agree with this

Alot of the time mtfg just seems like someone's discord, but on 4chan for everyone to read.

>>8744636
>It's a party, and we aren't invited.

this is what every non-anonymous trans space is like if you're in the closet

>>8744636
I don't think all trips are all bad either, but there does tend to be too much drama when you have a lot of trips. I get enough drama irl and I don't need more here! Avoiding the drama is really the purpose for having a /tgg/ anyway.

For all its problems I like the anonymity of 4chan, and for me it's better than other places online when I want to discuss trans stuff.

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I just injected Everclear + Calcium Chloride into my nuts. I'm gonna try to fake having testicular cancer so I can get an emergency orchi from the local hospital. Yeah, so there's a slim chance I might die. It's too late for regrets now. Wish me luck, girls!

>>8747063
good luck remember to post feet

>>8744635
The scariest thing for me was when drug dealers started moving into my apartment building. My being trans wasn't an issue, it just seemed really dangerous. I tried to avoid being seen going in and out and I parked out of sight of my building so people couldn't tell if I was home or not. I did end up moving out because it was too stressful.

>>8747071
I don't know why drug dealers would hate trannies.

You'd think a dealer would realize that E+AA is just another fix they can sell.

>>8747063
Were you inspired by that other anon? He was saying it was important for the calcium chloride to stay in the testicles. If it got outside of them there's a risk of necrotizing tissue you want to keep. Good luck. Let us know if you live!

>>8747081
I avoided them and I don't think they knew I was trans. I didn't need to buy anything anyway! The big problem was the unsavory people going in and out at all hours. They also started a fire so I was afraid of them burning down the building. I was worried about being burglarized too.
Anyway, I'm long gone from there. The place was decent when I moved in but it went downhill fast after new management took over.

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>>8747089
Yeah.

Yeah, I saved all of this anon's posts and studied it like the Talmud. I made sure to use the right kind of needle and everything (I used a 30 gauge 1/2 inch). The needle was so thin, I barely even felt it go in.

No pain... yet. A little bit of nausea, but I've looked at enough eunuch forums to know that nausea is expected when you do stuff to your balls.

Anon says it should be about a week before the balls appear "cancerous", so I'll probably walk into an urgent care clinic around the 25th or 26th. Will post updates then, if I'm still alive :)

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>>8747139
>>8747139
Whoops, meant to post this pic.

For all the other anons reading, I just want to emphasize that what I did is EXTREMELY stupid and reckless, and you probably shouldn't see me as a role model.

>>8747154
>>8747139
>first anon studies eunuchs forums religiously, makes a few posts
>second anon saves posts, studies religiously

let us know how the tldr procedure goes.

>>8747139
Are you still alive, anon?

>>8747063
do you have any mental illnesses?

>>8747139
>>8747154
I'm the anon that did this a little over a week ago now. I made a thread about it then.
I'm interested in trying to get this flagged as cancer. How do. Cause even at peak swelling, the Dr was like "oh this is normal sized" (literally double the size they were pre injection).
Right now they're about 60-70% the size they were before, but they're rock hard.
This method is so incredibly painful though guys, just go get an orchie for 900$, cause I feel like your emergency orchie copay is gonna be a few K at best.
Plus they'll likely fuck your SRS results, compared to a planned orchie.

>>8750981
It's true with an emergency orchie the surgeon isn't going to care about preserving tissue and avoiding scarring for SRS. Even if you don't think you will want SRS it's best to keep your options open.
Another anon is thinking of trying calcium chloride >>8750594. I hope you haven't started a fad!

Hey y'all, I just took a whole bunch of sleeping pills and tylenol with some vodka. See you on the other side. Life's too hard and stuff and not worth it and stuff. I really hope everyone has a nice life, clearly I wasn't meant to, but that doesn't mean everyone else can't. Bye!

>>8751630
I really really hope not. I saw that post, and the ref to this thread to try to do a bit of damage control. I meant to do mine as a record of my actions, not really a guide...
Also, people should get the high purity stuff. The pool store is 70%, from what I saw. Same with alcohol, I had trouble finding high proof--amazon has a high purity foodsafe one. Not cheap though. I'd hate to know what dentaured alcohol will do.
And yeah, between necrosis and emergency surgery, I'd be very hesitant to really recommend it.
That being said, I'd be all over getting mine recognized as cancer. I think I mentioned in the original thread that both suporn and chet will work with orchie patients, unlike many us surgeons.
I really hope this doesn't progress to a popular thing. I cannot express the level of pain I experienced--maybe I incorrectly administered or ODd, I dunno. My spermatic cords are still sore.
But I want these things off of my body asap, and an orchie just keeps looking more and more tempting.
>>8751664
I really hope this isn't real. Please, if you see this, go the ER immediately. Get your stomach pumped... It'll get better, it just might not seem like it now

>>8749484
transsexualism

>>8751664
Get help ASAP. I hope you're still with us. Try to stay awake.

Gay guy here. Someone in the gay community please tell me how men injecting chemicals into their nutsacks ISNT a clear sign of mental illness?

>>8751791
>gay guy
>posting in a /tgg/
Fuck off

>>8751664
night night anon
sleep tight
you deserve a good rest
<3

>>8751791
the poster said they were mentally ill when questioned about it
most sensible trannys know they are mentally ill

>>8752922
But what does "mentally ill" mean? I see people throwing that around to attempt to delegitimize being trans and avoid having to take it seriously.

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>>8751664
holy shit O_O

>>8751664
anon no ;_;

>>8753060
Which thread is even working?

>>8752922
yeah, I (>>8750981) would say Im mentally sound. Other than crippling genital dysphoria. This dysphoria prompted my transition. People can throw the buzzwords about, and argue about the semantics about what constitutes a mental illness--but really, its just atypical neurology. What is any mental illness? Atypical neurology. What is homosexuality though?
Well it, too, is atypical neurology. There are treatments for alot of these issues--for someone with schizophrenia, theres thorazine, for someone with gender/genital dysphoria, its transition. For a gay man, rather than having sex with women, you simply have sex with men. I just don't get bogged down by the stigma of what mental illness is.
Yeah, trans people are neurologically atypical. But theyre peope. We're all just people. Trans, gay, autistic, chinese, or national socialist. People.

>>8753180
>brings up politics
shame..
bad anon, bad

We had one anon who tried the calcium chloride injection technique, and another who said she took a bunch of pills. I wonder what happened to them? I hope no one died.

>>8755767
If she posted late Saturday, and judging from my experience, she's probably at peak pain--and will stay there a day or two.
I think it's safe if it gets in the bloodstream, as it only necrotizes after it stays in contact with a tissue for a long time.
Injection girl is probably very much alive, but very much a hurting.
Gosh dang you silly willies. Just get an orchie, this shit hurts.
Hopefully sleeping pill anon is fine though... Hopefully just wakes up with a hangover :(

What do I do with my hair as I wait for it to grow out? I have no idea. I don't want to wear hats. It's long enough to cover my face in the front but it's still not very long in the back.

>>8756061
Rewind time and pretend to be tru by having it pre-grown out.
There literally nothing flattering you can do with it beforehand. If there's that much, there's enough to do extensions though

can someone help me with hairloss stuff?
i've been on bica/progynova for about 8 months and i'm losing my hair
I want to start on finaesteride, but I'm not sure what dosage or where to get it
any advice?

>>8756755
Dutasteride is more effective. It's available on alldaychemist. I think I paid a little under 200 for 6 months? No idea if my ins covers, and adc meds are so much cheaper than uninsured ones

>>8756755
Also, have you checked your levels? Doesn't bica increase progesterone levels? That can cause hair loss, anecdotally

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>>8756778
can you tell me about dutasteride?

also, i normally order my stuff from ADC but I think I'd prefer not to until next time i'm stocking up on stuff, to save on shipping

these are the IHP listings, do any of them look good? also - how much do I take a day? and how is dutasteride more effective? i see everyone telling people to use finaesteride

>>8756783
I have not. I really regret it. I haven't gotten tests yet.I was losing hair before I started, though.

>>8756755
I think the problem is that you need a high enough bica dose to stop hair loss. I think if bica isn't high enough you can have too much DHT which causes hair loss. You should browse and ask on HRTGen to see what you need.

>>8756819
I'm not gonna lie...
I fucked up my doses from the first month i started to last month.

I was on 2mg Progynova for 8 months instead of 4 after the first month, and I still only take half a bica (25mg) a day. Should I start on more?

>>8756826
So you didn't do a blood test? Jfc it's like 60$ for estro and t. You'll fuck yourself without it. Idk bica levels offhand, but that sounds abysmally low.
2mg of progy is going to do nothing but eat a hole in your wallet desu

>>8756826
Get your t under control before doing dutas. I'm using it cause I am (was) t free enough for transition, but I didn't want any more hair loss.
Could also be wearing it up all the time and washing too often. When mine is down, and washed once or so a week, I don't lose much at all

>>8756847
no, i didn't. i know it was stupid, i really regret not having done it.

>>8756856
what would i even do if i did want to start dutas?

i dont wear it up often and i wash it twice a week max.

if i started dutas, would it thin even harder?

>>8756863
No, but there's no sense in fixing something that your AA should be doing if you were dosing correctly. Literally go today or tomorrow. There's alot of places that do it cheap, and without a dr order.
You should've done it beforehand, so you can see the effect that your starting dose has.

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>>8756870
yeah, you're right. i'll do it tomorrow.

man, i wish there was a better resource for people to get help with stuff, so nobody can fuck up as bad as I did.

I hate my life
I'm 18 years old
I have been depressed for the last 5 months
I'm so confused about myself and i'm trying to find my true self.

A week ago these feelings about wanting to be a girl started popping up out of nowhere.
It's not like i feel trapped inside a male's body (i'm very much a guy, i'm into cars etc.)
I just want to be girl while i know i really am not (both psychically and mentally).

I need some advice.
Am i trans? I'm not right? This is something you already know at young age right? Or am i trans but those (maybe repressed) feelings just came up because of depression/mental unstablity.
Or is it because my parents always repressed those feelings? (Played with toys meant for boys and stuff my parents gave me, when i was about 4 years old i wanted a pink bike but my dad didn't buy it for me. )

I played an awful lot with girls though, always had a lot of female friends. And at high school interaction with guys felt kinda forced because gender roles (guys hang with guys, girls with girls)

Please give me advice

Why does skin from the top of my dick peel off now? Is it because I don't use it anymore or just an effect of no testosterone or something?

>>8756914
this isn't a direct response to your post but i just want to note that your personality does not define your gender or vice versa

i still have all the same "masculine" hobbies and interests from before i transitioned, most of my friends and the people i hang around are boys, and it doesn't mean a thing.

don't let that be a factor in figuring out who you are.

>This is something you already know at young age right

no

>>8751791

Imagine you had a tumor

It wouldn't directly kill you, but it would ruin your body- and it would continue to do so for the rest of your life. If left unchecked, it gets to the point where it makes your body so unbearable to you that you really don't see any option besides suicide- because the damage it does is permanent in many cases.

Normally, to get it removed it would take a lot of money and a therapist or two saying "yeah, do it". The therapists, I should now mention, are very much against you doing it in the first place, and think you just want attention. And as you're trying to convince them, it's draining away money that you need to fix the damage anyways.

But there's a fairly safe alternative- inject some chemicals straight into the tumor. It'll bypass the therapists, stop the damage in its track, and you're gonna get it removed pretty dang quick.

>>8756826
It looks like your bica is way too low. If you read this post:
>>8753123
you'd want 100-150 mg/day to block DHT if your T levels haven't been lowered. With 2 mg/day of progynova your T levels probably haven't changed much.
As others have said, you need to get tested, but it looks like your bica is way too low and your hair is getting BTFOed by DHT.

>>8756919
that doesn't sound normal.
you might have a fungal infection or something.

>>8756940
How do I get rid of it?

>>8756939
I'm on 4mg now, have been for a while.

Honestly, that's a lot of Bica, that's 2 or 3 pills a day. I don't think I can afford that. Should I switch to a different AA? What would you recommend?

>>8756914
oh gosh, I know exactly where you're coming from

For a lot of us, it just seems to pop up out of nowhere. You definitely don't always know right off the bat- that's a fairly old idea, but it simply isn't accurate with reality. As such, it should be tossed out, but people refuse to.

I didn't realize until I was 18- some figure it out later. Doesn't change anything, we're still trans.

The "girl in a male's body' thing is also kind of the same bunk. It's an easy enough phrase, but it doesn't really give any information- because what the hell does it mean to be a girl even?

Honestly, you sound trans to me. You sound like me when I just began to understand who I was- I figured I couldn't be trans for the same reasons you mentioned.

I would advise either talking to a gender therapist (because normal ones are awful at trans stuff) if it's an option, or even just seeing about getting on hormones.

There are a lot of stereotypes about trans girls- we're all super femme, we've all known pretty much forever, we're all into guys, we're always depressed, etc etc. It's true for some people, but for a lot of people it simply isn't.

>>8756952
Spiro is tried and true, but you def need a dht blocker with that, cause it doesn't stop t production, only binding affinity.
Cypro is probably your best bet. That's what I'm switching to when the spiro runs out

>>8756949
try an anti-fungal spray, like for jock itch or athlete's foot.
if that doesn't work, see a doctor.
how long has it been peeling?
Is the skin underneath red, bumpy or swollen?
Do you feel any pain?
When is the last time you had sex with another person with it?

>>8756960
I'm not sure for how long I have it I think it's been a few months though. The skin below seems normal I think. It doesn't really hurt either, maybe a little when it perks of and it's quite dry. I never had sex before, but I might have gotten it from my ex who did oral on me.

Are there any good/nice trips?

>>8756993
Well, it's probably not an STD so that's good.
How large an area is it?
Like the whole dick or just part of it?
Does it itch ever or at all?
If it is dry and flaky and itchy sometimes, it could be fungal, so try the spray twice a day for two weeks and see if that improves it or make sit go away.
If not, then see a doctor.
It could be eczema or something.

>>8757002
>validate me

>>8756993
I have something similar. I have good hygiene and am a virgin.

Didn't start until my T level was nearing female range. No real pain, skin coloration is normal, and it's a pretty small amount of skin peeling off.

>>8757010
What is the spray called and is it really suited for use on genitals? It's just on the head of it. It doesn't feel itchy I think

>>8757015
Do you wear a chastity device?
Skin usually doesn't peel unless there is irritation, abrasion or infection.

>>8757039
Sprays for Jock itch are safe for use on the genitals.

The active ingredients can be Tolnaftate or (Tinactin) or Clotrimazole (Lotrimin)

>>8756956
I got a more feminine haircut yesterday because of it
it doesn't really make me look feminine but a little bit more androgynous.

>>8757044
Nope

I guess abrasion might do it. On the rare times I touch myself anymore, I never use any lubricant, even like spit or whatever.

I don't exactly spend too much time staring at my junk on other occasions, so it might just be I only notice it then

>>8757070
Because of what? I said a lot of things in that comment

But that's pretty cool. Andro is better than masc any day of the week, for us at least.

>>8757075
Because of my trans feelings

How do I buy clothes for myself? I don't know what looks good on me, and I'm afraid of most things since I don't think I'll pass and am afraid of harassment. On the other hand, I'm really tired of living as male, so I kinda want to get into it already.

>>8757188
If you're okay with going out shopping you could try thrift stores. If you make mistakes it won't be a big loss so you experiment with different looks.

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Here's my autism-tier excel of the measurements. Red is roughly where it was unbearable. Think twice before you double the volume of your testes in a day. Not comfy

>>8757882
on the plus side, your balls have got to be dying off sometime soon

>>8756914
I feel exactly the same right now, friend. I'm too afraid to transition, though.

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>>8744218
I think I'm dying. I'm in a place where I can't move, hide or do anything. The only thing I can do is curl up or die right away, and things will just slowly get worse.

At time of posting this thread dominated by men wanting to be women has no anime pictures how does that happen my purpose is to take the pictues but there isnt one i wont acept this im a failure

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>>8758640
here you go, friend
anime in peace

Thanks my job is done

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>>8751664
Don't believe you're worthless and you'll be enough to be priceless for someone who is loveless.

You're not a bargain, you're a trade.
Not without a stain, and hopefully not meant to fade.

If you sleep, may it not be deep.
Seep from your ducts, not meant for a heap.

>>8756914
Sounds like me. Never cared about gender for almost my whole life, was just like any other guy. Starting getting niggling dysphoria about a year ago, over the last month it's gotten to the point where it's been stopping me from actually living my life. Still don't want to admit I feel like I'm depressed.

I'm going to see my doctor about it soon because apparently it takes months before you get prescribed shit anyway, so if it does end up being a phase, it's not a problem. And if it doesn't end up being a phase, the earlier you transition the better.

How do I go about finding a trans experienced doctor in a new city? My last one was recommended to me by a trans friend, but I just moved to a new area where I basically only know my co-workers and I have never seen another trans person.

Something I always have problem with:
What do you all generally do to train your voice??
People keeps talking about chest resonance or something and I could never understand....

I'll leave with one word of advice dont worry about what others think of you as if you see your self as something and strive for perfection you can make it there

>>8760926
I had to get a new doctor after my last one retired. I don't know any other trans people to get recommendations so I just went to the informed consent clinic.

>>8760935

For starting out, I think the best thing to is focus on your eve's apple. You want to kinda have it go up and back- but not so far up that you're in a falsetto or anything. You'll know you're in a falsetto because there's generally a crack before it, and you sound like mickey mouse.

After that, it's just a lot of talking. It'll sound absolutely horrible at first, since you won't have good muscle control yet, but you'll get there if you keep working at it

>>8760942
Thanks hentai, you're good people.

So my best friend is a trans and l was wondering how could l act to make her more happy cause l like her.

She's into daddy/daughter and would like people to treat her as a little princess and wants protection but l honestly have no idea how to do this other than calling her little princess from time to time.

Any person here with a similar 'profile'? Like someone who's into daddy/daughter too or something similar to what l described. How would you like to be treated? Can you give me some examples of what would you like to hear someone say or do to you in X situation or just out of the blue?

>>8757071
I had this problem for like 3 days on hrt

No idea what caused it, but it went away pretty quickly

So i just got 6 laser sessions for full face and neck for $150 on groupon

I got scammed right? Isnt laser supposed to be like $600-700 for that?

>>8762499

It's perfectly possible that you got it for that cheap- sometimes you can find ridiculously good deals.

>>8762499
i got a pack of 5 sessions for like $280 canadian

Do corsets work? Should I start wearing them religiously?

>>8764444
Endless rows of 18th century aristocrats will tell you corsets work. Just make sure you start lightly and work your way up.

>>8764455
What happens if I start heavy

>>8764459
It depends on how much you like breathing.

>>8744635
Assuming you live in the states, buy a subcompact pistol and learn how to shoot it and conceal it.

>18, still going through puberty, still look pretty young
>always wanted to be a woman but always accepted that I was a man
>started taking bica and ralox a couple of weeks ago because I don't want to be masculine
>want to take real hrt now but don't want commit social suicide
>really don't want to be male, though
>don't want to wait any longer, though, because I'll only get manlier over time
fuck me I need to get my ass to a gender therapist or something. anyone else here started taking femboy drugs and ended up wanting more? Maybe it's a phase...

>>8764698
Femboy HRT doesn't seem like a good long term solution, especially if you're trying not to get breasts. HRT is easier if you want boobs, though there's no guarantee you won't end up flat-chested anyway.
I wonder if starting on bica+ralox affects your breast growth potential. I really have no idea.

I was thinking that I'm envious of Ls and Gs because they have a natural dating pool - other Ls and other Gs. Bs have lots of options too.
What about us poor Ts though? Trans x trans happens but isn't really a thing or the obvious, natural option like L x L and G x G. We end up trying to date cis people who often hate us or fetishize us.

>>8766612
B is the most common dating pool for T.

As an MtF, having a Bi bf is pretty great because they enjoy that I look like a female but are also more than cool with the dingus.

>>8766965
Bi guys have been most common for me, but there's no guarantee they'll be into MtFs.

>tfw you are broke and can't afford hrt so have to go dry for 6 days
fuck this fucking sucks

>>8771511
Maybe you could stretch it out instead of going dry?

>>8771511
I have a lot of estrofem leftover from when I was diying and also a lot of Spiro I don't use because I just diy cypro that I could give you maybe.

Thank fucking god this thread is back, it became the only reason I came here. I've gone from 2mo to 6mo hrt in that time, and presenting full time. Back at school and I feel amazing. How is everyone doing?

I have a question. I'm probably going to have sex with a transgendered girl here soon. We're dating. My only question that I'm afraid to ask her, because she's the submissive type, that says "do what you want", is: Should I touch her penis?
I don't know if she's expecting me to or not, and if I don't will I be leaving her displeased?
I want things to go naturally but this is going to be an issue.

>>8773323
You were in boy mode in the spring and switched to girl mode over the summer? HRT must be working really well for you.

>>8773363
Dude just ask

Is there any discord?i dont like the /mtfg/ discords because they are all filled with mostly the same people that know each other and never try to talk to newcomers at all

>>8773363
You should assume she doesn't want her penis touched.

>>8773373
I did, a while ago, she said "do what you want" with strange tone. If I push it, it'll be weird.

>>8773394
Then dont

>tfw you find someone who makes you feel cute and they are really cuddly and nice

>>8751791
Why are you here I came for advice about coming out(yes i saw the text) but you have no reason to be here

>>8773323
:)) good to hear. My one year HRT is this Sunday. I feel really nice !!!

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What's the best way to get in terms with being an agp pseudohomosexual without losing sanity?

>>8751791
Hey Milo! I get injections in my butt!

>>8773363
Being reminded that I have a penis is the last thing I want to experience during sexy time.

>>8775246
>agp pseudohomosexual
I'm not even sure what that means.

Why do I always feel like my head's about to burst, even when it's not hurting

>>8778177
Sinus congestion?

>tfw massive faggot

Home alone on a Saturday night bump.

>>8778177
high blood pressure perhaps?

This is one of the most accepting threads on LGBT thank you

>>8773363
You should ask, some of my mtf friends don't want theirs touched, but I do so. Depends.

>>8782602
thank yourself
a thread is what you make it

>>8782602
The thread is a bit slow but at least we've managed to keep it on the board for more than a week.

Is it just me or has 4chan been slow this weekend? Images in particular take forever to load or don't load at all a lot of times.

practice your voice in voice chat or have a honvoice forever, your choice

https://discord.gg/7ZsnS7

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>6'2

>>8787072
Why is always 6'2"
people are never just 6' or 6'1"
always 6'2"
it's like the male body just decides to go all the way after 5"11'

>>8787089
I'm 6'1.

I'm 6"

I'm still boymode-ing every day atm but my bobs are growing a bit too quick for me to be able to hide them well anymore

Would using a binder be detrimental to breast development?
Alternatively, are there better (less harmful) ways of hiding breasts?

>>8789571
I've read that using a binder for too long can be harmful, maybe 8 hours a day is the max you can do it. Sports bras and baggy sweatshirts, sweaters, hoodies, etc., sometimes in multiple layers, are the usual way to hide breasts.

>>8790579
What do you do when it's hot though

>>8790651
Tough it out? Unless your boobs stay small though at some point hiding them is going to be impractical.

>>8790651
what i do is never go outside and always wear baggy clothes
actually no different than my life before boi titties
gotta be a neet for this though

that photo slowy gives me more autism

>>8791109
this requires a certain kind of baggyness, though. baggy clothes make my boobs even more visible because the fabric hangs over em

>>8791132
the never going outside part helps hide them a lot

>>8791228
that is true
god i would've never taken in a dog if i knew i would become a tranny. walking it with my bobs just being there in this weather and not being able to wear sweaters is hell

>>8791239
perhaps you need teh find doggo a new home

I cant honestly tell if i pass or nor anymore. I thought i was passing fairly well for a while but now its like nope, you were just being delusional.

Fuck my shit up with complete honesty. The slight angle difference makes me look male doesnt it...

Imgur com/a/Lru82

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I finally did it. I finally wore women's clothes and make-up. I felt so good, finally I could see who I wanted to be.

But then I realised how many people are going to hate me and mock me. Oh god I hate how I feel, I'm so afraid to come out to my parents.

>>8791536
you pass
i fucking wish i looked that fucking good, fuck me
but i feel you senpai, i always see a monster in the mirror too

I have a confession to make. I was a poltard before admiting to myself I'm trans girl

>>8791687
did you realize that your what you thought was misogyny was really just fueled by envy of cis women?

...asking for a friend

>>8791687
That seems to be fairly common. Thank you for your confession. We need to help the /pol/tards who post on /tttt/ to see the light and accept who they are.

>>8791719
>>8791732
I did. Being mysogynyst, red pilled, right winger was useful repressing method. (still not a lefty though)

>>8791536
I think you pass. 4chan will make you doubt yourself. I went years without giving passing a second thought, going out without makeup and everything, but now I have doubts. At least it's inspired me to work harder on my appearance. I was getting lazy.

>>8791738
I had a brief misogynist, male chauvinist pig phase right before I broke down and started working on transition. It didn't help me at all. The contradictions just fueled my dysphoria.

>>8791758
I was master repressor. Combine poltardism, excessive faping and distraction and you have it.

>>8791536
you pass lol

Did anyone need to start life a new for transition?

>>8792545
It depends on what you mean by new life. I didn't totally disappear as if I were dead. However, I did make a pretty big break with my past. I went full time in college but I arranged things so that I already had my major completed. I was able to work on my minor where I wasn't already known. I've had no contact with anyone from high school. I stayed in contact with my immediate family but not my extended family. My gender therapist moved after I got SRS approval, and after SRS I started seeing a gynecologist instead of my endo.
I pretty much did start a new life except for staying in contact with my family.

how do I go about starting transitioning? I have no idea which doctors I should look into, how to get set up with anything, I'm very fresh to the scene. all I know is I want to start HRT ideally as soon as possible, without just buying them outright illegally or whatever

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>>8792613
right
okay

first things first:
>do you have a therapist atm for non-transgender stuff?
if yes, tell them about it and get them to direct you to a gender therapist of some sort. after a confirmation/diagnosis for "gender identity disorder", you'll get hormones from an endocrinologist iirc.
this person is also important if you're going with illegal hormones, as keeping your hormone balance in check is very important

>does your country have a dedicated "gender clinic"?
if yes, call them and make an appointment (this is the way i did it, but i had a pretty long waiting period so i ordered online anyway)

>does your bastion of freedom have "informed consent"?
if yes, i heard all it takes is signing a paper and you're done in terms of getting hormones

>>8792631
I dont have any kind of therapist at the moment. I'm in the US, I'm not sure if there's such thing as gender clinics? and I'm not sure what you mean by that last one

>>8792634
I read online from others' experiences that the US has this thing called "informed consent clinics" where you apparently have to sign a paper confirming you know what you're doing, and they give you hormones

might be completely wrong though, i don't really know well enough how stuff works over there ;-;
good luck

>>8792634
There are informed consent clinics where you can get HRT without gatekeeping. They'll do a physical exam and blood tests to make sure you're you don't have any serious health issues, but you should have minimal hassle. They should be able to refer you to a therapist if you want one.

How does /tgg/ feel about a couple of fat neckbeards who say they're a transbian couple despite doing nothing to pass? (I am not one of these people; I know them)

>>8792694
They're happy, and it's not like transwomen who make an effort to pass are any more admired. They're just shamed for not being able to pass when they can't, or for deceiving people when they can.

>>8792702
Or passing transwomen are accused of reinforcing gender stereotypes or cisnormative beauty standards.

>>8792663
there dont seem to be any remotely near me, unless I dont know where to look hard enough. any other good options to go for then?

>>8773365
Yep! Well, kinda. I didn't present at all over the summer, only once in like 3-4mo, but my friend came over the night before college and I put on a fashion show for her, with makeup and everything. I actually looked rly good and boosted my confidence, this was ~2 weeks ago. Now I present full-time and pretty much pass until I open my mouth. Use women's restroom and everything.
>>8775244
That's great! I can't wait to be at that point.

Sry late response anons

>>8778177
Something to do with one of your levels, go see a doctor

>>8792598
I got into bad crowd and none will accept me, for family idk, but I think ghosting away is my only chance.

Did any of you remained with your previous girlfriends during/post transition? I want to tell my girlfriend I'm dysphoric, that I want to do it but that I still love her. Amicable breakup is option too. But I'm scarred since she is quite conservative desu. Any advices?

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Level with me, I trust y'all niggas more than dumblr or plebbit, I've been having dysphoria since 11-12, does it ever fuck off or should I just stop fighting it and go down the rabbit hole?

It got progressively worse until like 19, took a year and a bit off, and is now back full force. I'd really rather not transition fully unless I have to because I don't want to be a fucking hon and shame my family.

>>8793426
Usually dysphoria gets worse over time. With some people it goes into remission for a time but it always comes back.
Why do you think you'd be a hon? Are you tall or have a very masculine face? The longer you wait the worse a hon you'd be, but I appreciate that even at 19 it's too late for some people.

>>8793096
If maintaining ties to people who knew you before transition holds you back, then starting over is the best. I made a break because I didn't want to be known by everyone as a tranny.

>>8793232
My girlfriend was always bi and had relationships with cis girls but i transitioned to now always going 'girlmode' and they actually like me more for it. I read a lot that this is what a lot of transbians want but i honestly just want the D q_q. Oh well, a lesser repression than my gender.

tfw get ma'amed on a phone interview

>>8793486
I'm 21 now, 5'9''ish, I have crohn's disease though and that stunted my grown hard in puberty. Stepping outside of myself if I started soon I could maybe actually pass pretty well, I only had basically half a male puberty. But if I couldn't stealth/pass then my distant family and brother would kill me long before I killed myself.

>>8793798
hide from them?

>>8793538
Thanks. I don't have this luck. I honestly don't even know how to bring up the subject. :( Even thoughts of repression come to my mind, but I'm affraid of cracking into a hon while married with three kids. (well, I'm a hon material already).

>>8791758
Some of my worst social dysphoric moments rn are seeing a bad take on Twitter and thinking "if I called her out on that I'd just be accused of mansplaining"

Even for the stupidest shit like this game of thrones samwell thing, I was close to tears for almost an hour.

>>8793798
21 is still workable and 5'9" isn't excessively tall, but you should try to figure out what you want to do soon. It's a shame that you have to be afraid of your brother in particular.

>>8793486
i mean i'm on hrt and my dysphoria only got worse

>>8793952
I didn't realize you're already on HRT. That's tough that it isn't helping with dysphoria, and you'll already have an idea of how passable you'll be. What triggers your dysphoria? How much is due to your body and how much is due to your social situation? Is there anything you've done in the past that seemed to help your dysphoria?

>>8793875
I can't, we're a really tight knit clingy family.
>>8793910
It might be because I'm having a bad bout right now but I really want to go on hormones asap, even if I don't want to fully transition I know for sure I don't want to get any more masculine.

I just don't know how to go about it, I really dont want to be a selfish prick and just say "well fuck you guys" but at the same time theyre basically expecting me to just tuff it out too.

I mean my mom is kind of trying, she's been genuinely curious and concerned but she also just snickered and went on to some pretty mean spirited questions when she found out I have to 'crossdress' now and again to not feel like I'm suffocating.

>>8794156
I can understand not wanting to be selfish but you have to do what's right for yourself too and you don't want to waste your life. Whatever you decide to do you'll face a lot of difficulties, so it can feel like you're choosing between bad and worse. You'll have to figure out which option gives you the best hope for the future. If you decide on HRT you'll just have to take the plunge and deal with whatever shit you get for it as best as you can.

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>5th week into hrt
>have weird pain on my calf mid work
>get paranoid as fuck
>no redness norswelling, just pain, not intense, just bothersome
>it comes and goes at random
>scared of DVT

H-help.

>>8794811
what is dvt?

>>8794858
deep vein thrombosis, you know, a clot in your legs due to estrogen, which can lead to pulmonary embolism or a stroke

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>>8794805
Part of me wants to go like halfway, where I get the hormones but just present male when I need to, and just look a lot more feminine, is that a thing that has been done before with any success? Might be shitting myself and will want to go all the way even more at that point though.

Also thanks to all the anons for the responses, its hard to find answers for this shit that isnt drenched in tumblr tier snowflakism.

>>8794811
If youre scared of DVT you should get it checked asap, vein shit is serious.

Anyone know how to deal with the fact that you can't get blockers or hormones for about another decade and every day you're slowly becoming more and more masculine? It's killing me inside and I don't know how to deal with it.

>>8794903
My grandma died from it, aunt have had problems. Does that mean I would not be able to get HRT?

>>8794903
>hi doc, I selfmed with estradiol valerate, spiro and finasteride because I want to be a girl, but my calf hurts and I'm scared of a dvt

I still hope it's just a sore muscle, I'm not overweight, I move around a lot and I stopped smoking long ago.

I was feeling uncertain and told my BF that I wasn't trans, just gay, but the more I learn about it and the more I think about myself and examine my feelings the more I feel the need to admit I actually am, to myself and him. How do I explain it without making him feel like I lied to him before?

>>8794941
you'd be surprised how chill doctors can be, and besides, better to have a pissed doctor then a corpse.

>>8794959
I'm strugglin how to tell my gf, welcome aboard.

So I want to make a new twitter account that isn't connected to my real identity so I can be out online but running into two obstacles:

How to come up with a name (i'm not very creative)

How to avoid being autoblocked by everyone I interact with due to being a new account with zero followers

i'm finally scheduled for FFS and while I should be excited i'm just scared that i still won't pass and still will be super dysphoric

>>8795841
for a name, look at the most popular girls names around the time of your birth year, and choose one that you like

>>8795993
I meant an online account name, not a name name.

>>8795998
Stick two random unassuming words together.

For example: GeoHot

Or or or, pick a super obscure word, like Vaticide or something

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>tfw no one to play dark souls with

Any Houston anons here? I hope you're all safe and didn't get flooded out. I'm an Ohio anon but I have a relative down there who managed to stay dry.

>>8794918
why can't you?

Is it normal to just be gung ho on transitioning one day and not the next? I was having a freak out over wanting to transition sooner mere hours ago, and now I feel ridiculous and just want to force myself to live as a male. What kind of niggermancy is this?

>>8797953
I'd say it's pretty normal. It's probably the biggest decision you'll ever make in your life. I had to do a lot of soul searching before I decided to take the plunge.
I was at a scenic overlook by myself when I made my final decision. I was thinking that if I had any future at all without transitioning, that I'd always be plagued with dysphoria and wondering what life would have been like if I had transitioned.
On the other hand, I was looking around and thought the world was a pretty cool place, and I had a chance to be a young woman in this world, I had a good idea of how I could do it, and I had to take the opportunity, no matter what.
In some ways it would be like bailing out of a crashing airplane with a dodgy parachute. You don't know if the parachute will work but it's your only hope and you have to go with it.

I will probably start soon. I'm so depressed that I'm unproductive an if I don't make something god know how I will end. So nothing to lose.

>>8798050
Thats actually kinda beautiful, thanks

>>8798115
I'm glad my little story helped. I'm farther along than most of the girls here and I hope by sharing I can do some good.

>>8798050
>I was thinking that if I had any future at all without transitioning, that I'd always be plagued with dysphoria and wondering what life would have been like if I had transitioned.
Doesn't that go both ways? Transition and you'll always wonder if you could have been happy without.

>>8798163
In my case no. I have no doubt that whatever life I had would have been miserable and likely short. The only reason why I had any hesitation to transition was fear that it would be too hard or that I wouldn't be able to pass well enough. I had enough success experimenting with girl mode and going femboyish in boy mode before I even started HRT to give me enough confidence to decide to get HRT and transition.

>>8797953
Yeah, I can relate to that. I'm pretty glad I'm not the only one.

polling /tgg/ for science
http://www.strawpoll.me/13826632

>>8799159
cool, all of the options are jokes

>>8799172
no, just phrased in a humorous fashion.
THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS

Fucking fuck senpai. I was on hormones for about 7 months and decided to stop and not transition. After I stopped I was a little bummed, but felt better eventually and didn't think about it. Now all of a sudden I want to transition again. I saw decent titty growth even in just 7 months, but I'm worried I'll be hideous if I full transition. But I'll likely be making a ton of money in the next year so I could afford surgery. What do?

>>8799198
it sounds like you already know what to do

>>8799035
Isnt it the fucking worse? I'd almost rather full time dysphoria so I could at least act on it without doubting my skinny ass the whole time.

>>8799243
Yes, an hero. But would it be better to try transitioning first? I'm not terrible looking as a guy I don't think.

Full time, more or less stealth, pretty passing, iffy voice, but made up by decent looks.
neighbor who knew me pretransition: "hey you got a couple eggs I can borrow?"
"Sure thing, just a sec!" *hands him the eggs*
"Thank you so much man"
( :
I wasnt misgendered for 3 fucking months
3 months
and this shit has happened 4 times in the last week.

>>8799274
> neighbor who knew me pretransition
Don't feel bad about that, anon. Even if you looked perfectly like a woman, I bet he'd still misgender you. A lot of people just don't understand how transitioning and pronouns work, you know?

>>8799260
You might as well. I'm the one who made the analogy of jumping out of a crashing airplane with a dodgy parachute. It might not work but it's your best chance.

>>8799480
I can't deal with it anymore. Bi dude at a party did something similar, online friend called me my deadname for shits and giggles, person at kroger literally referred to me as she, saw my ID )updated with name and w/e, but still has that glaring M), and proceeded to he/his it up.
Ill never be cis. this is always going to follow me. May as well roll the theological dice and hope for just nothingness or reincarnation that deals a fairer hand.

>>8799527
But I can successfully continue as a man. I can function in public, I'm not the best looking but most don't think I'm ugly. It's like the plane could keep flying just fine, but I could be happier if I jumped out.

>>8799274
tbqhon

hi

>>8799569
Then you have a tougher choice because you have more than one option. How long can you hold the plane together? Or can you repair and repack your parachute? If you think an heroing is inevitable you might as well make the leap now before things get worse. Also your attractiveness as a man doesn't necessarily translate into passability. It's more about how masculine your face looks.
Finally, if you can function as a man, but only at the cost of being forever unhappy, but transitioning offers a chance at happiness, isn't it better to take that chance at happiness?

>>8799651
I meant like I can successfully be a man because I'm somewhat attractive as a man. I don't have an overly masculine face, but I would still do surgery on it if I transitioned. I just don't want to go through it again and end up deciding to quit for a second time.

>>8799564
You should stick with it as long as you can keep making progess. You can't dwell too much on not being able to be cis though. You'll never be happy if you can't get past that. You might need to cut some people out of your life if they're giving you a hard time. You don't want to roll the theological dice and come up snakeyes.

>>8799670
It doesn't sound like you're ready to make a decision yet. It's unfortunate that the longer you wait the harder it will be to pass. Still, it's better to take the time you need to make sure you're doing the right thing. I hope you can figure it out and that whatever choice you make is the right one.

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I'm going to court within a month to petition for a name and gender change. I never want to hear my dead name again. How do I dress for the occasion?

>>8799689
tbqhon you are supposed to dress up for it?

>>8799689
I just wore nice womens slacks, some black flats, and a nice blouse.
Like you would wear to an interview, I guess. It takes like 5 minutes (for a name change alone , at least). Just don't look like a grimeball.

>>8799673
and thats just it, it felt like all my progress just rolled back on itself. But Ill keep on keepin on, for a bit longer. Im in college, and due to my roommate situation, I cant cut most of these people out. I essentially removed all of my online friends though.

new estrogen brain is getting socialized the same as deadname was

HRT and zero RLE is the only trutrans solution

>>8799712
>But Ill keep on keepin on, for a bit longer.
I hope it gets better. Keep working on it and best of luck.

Got my blood test back today, T down from my 150pg spike to <20pg (their detection limit)
So its somewhat very effective at nuking T, in my case.
Again, this isn't an endorsement of the CaCl2 method.

>>8804000
I'm glad it worked out. Hopefully this will last. Are your nuts still rock hard?
I never heard anything about the other anons who were trying it. I hope they're OK.
If this is a good technique the best thing would be if it could be done under medical supervision. To other anons out there, don't try this at home!!!

i had to stop hrt for 4 days
do you guys think my T levels would of jumped back up a whole lot in that time?
my blocker is spiro

>>8804236
Depends on how long you've been on HRT. Did you notice anything that seemed like testosterone affecting you? At any rate 4 days of testosterone shouldn't affect anything.

>>8804281
8 months
and i am just worried about having to start from square one again

>>8804295
That's not that long on HRT, but still, 4 days shouldn't be a big deal. If you got a surge of testosterone I would think you'd have noticed something. I wouldn't worry about it.

>>8804236
Why did you have to stop?

t. awful health anon concerned about having to frequently stop

day 1 of corset training. It's pretty uncomfortable but it reminds me of the pains your body goes through in the first few months of hrt. It's not pleasant, but that's because it works.

>>8805847
i had no cash to buy hrt

>>8806141
>the pains your body goes through in the first few months of hrt
what?
i never had any pains from hrt
i mean some minor testicle pain and sore titties, but i would hardly consider that to be really painful

How to come out as mtf afterr loooooong time spent as a redpilled poltard :(

>>8807025
stop being a politicized retard

>>8807025
I'm in the same boat. Repression and disinfo was a hell of a drug. What do you mean by come out? Does everyone know you for your political views or something? I'm stuck in a very conservative situation where my best option is trying to find a job and move out somewhere cheap so I can begin transitioning

>>8807080
Thanks for reply. Sadly almost everyone. I mean telling parents, and two close friends. One of them is bi, but both are right wing. I stoped caring about politics but still, reputation and knowing a lot of nasty people in person

I've been transitioning for almost three full years at this point, and I second-guess myself and question if this is what I really want almost daily.

If given the choice at birth, I absolutely would pick to be born as a girl, with zero hesitation. Even now, if there was a magical button I could press to change me 100% into a girl, I would press it. I hated going through male puberty and I hated looking in the mirror for years, but I'm just... not sure if it's worth it. Almost three years of HRT have given me barely any breast growth at all whatsoever despite my doctors telling me I had ideal levels. Body hair has been reduced, but it's not gone for good, and the constant shaving and epilating are obnoxious as hell, laser didn't work for me and electrolysis is taking forever. I pass in public, but I always have this extreme state of anxiety of someone figuring it out, I panic if someone gives me a weird look or anything else. Everyone tells me my voice is fine but I hate having to struggle and constantly be forcing it up, and now I can't even sing anymore while my singing voice was the only thing I liked and had pride in back when I lived as a male.

I'm very worried about the potential side effects of HRT, estradiol and finasteride both are not meant to be taken from your early 20s until the end of your life, and I don't think I'll ever want to get an orchi or SRS because frankly, even the best results of current-day SRS are utterly horrific to me. So for the rest of my life it feels like I'm just going to be putting my kidneys and liver through hell while my body's natural hormones and the ones I want it to use are fighting each other, and that can't be good for me. I'm afraid I'm cutting my life short when ultimately this is never going to actually give me the results I want. It's never going to be good enough, and I have too much I want to accomplish in this world before I go.

I'm just so, so tired of what feels like a constant uphill battle.

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>>8807110
Its gonna suck be prepared to lose everyone.

>>8807418
With the meds it is tougher if you don't get at least an orchi. Estradiol by itself isn't too big a deal.
I'll also say that three years isn't a long time. I was still pretty messed up mentally at that point. Think of yourself as being three years into puberty.
You should strongly consider getting an orchi. It would free you from needing an AA so you could cut the medication load on your body.

>>8807440
I know. I just thought since this is 4chan that somebody went through simmilar

>>8807418
You could stab your nuts with mystery juice and hope your testosterone dies out
Won't have to worry about finasteride or your AA then

>>8807804
It worked for one anon, but another anon tried it and was never heard from again. There was another one who was thinking about it and I never heard from that person either. I wouldn't try it.

Pretty well decided on getting back on HRT now after about 6 months of being off of it. I had 4 sessions of laser, not looking forward to more of that

>>8807498
I just run away.

>>8807877
I hope you haven't regressed too much in those 6 months.

>>8807887
Little bit of unwanted hair growth, but otherwise no. I definitely didn't lose any breast tissue lol

>>8807900
That's good. Just don't let it happen again!!

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>>8807498
I did, it was horrid, my family only came to terms with it once I started passing so that they didnt have to worry about being associated with wierdos in public, most of my friends never did.

>>8808029
I can imagine you're family being afraid you'll turn into a turbohon like they see on TV when you first told them you were trans.

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>>8808137
>like they see on TV

I don't know what you're talking about

>>8808029
Sorry to hear that. I suppose you were also a bit younger than me. But glad that it is ok now.

>>8806397
I had a lot of hip pain for the first year or so of hrt and my breasts/nipple pain I had wasn't exactly something I'd describe as comfortable

>>8799255
Yeah, it's not ideal. One day I'll feel really optimistic about eventually presenting as a girl but the next I'll hate myself.

How do I stop hating myself if I dont have any other choice besides living with my narcissistic mom who makes me miserable to the point I dont want to live anymore and everything seems pointless because she will always find a way to find me and make me miserable all over again?

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>>8810539
You are in control of your emotions.
Not her.
Stop letting her manipulate her.
Stop giving her that power.
Take control of your life.
Get a job you enjoy.
Save some money.
Move out.
Stop blaming other people.
You can love yourself.
Just focus on your positive traits.
Learn to see your mother as the immature, sad person that she is.
Feel sorry for her.
She is aging and will be dead soon.
You are young and have your whole life ahead of you.

>>8810539
r/raisedbynarcissists/

What order should I do these in, once I finally manage to get over myself and start moving forward:

Start HRT
Come out to my family
Come out to my employer
Be openly trans online

I don't know if I'm ever going to get the energy to do all this at the same time, so I need a... road map, I guess?

Complicating factors:
- My online identity is known to my parents and I don't want that to be how they find out
- Nearest informed consent is 200 miles away and I would have to explain my absence because I'm normally expected to be able to drive my (also adult but non driving) siblings places.

>>8812793
I'd start HRT first.

>>8812793
being openly trans online is pretty easy
but i never had any online social life before being trans so maybe harder if you already know people, idk

Heya
Does anyone know some discord chanell for voice training

>>8814136
There was a discord channel mentioned farther up in the thread. I haven't tried it.
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>>8812793
I don't think I'd come out to your employer until you are ready to go full time or HRT changes are so noticeable that you have to say something.

Wisconsin was a mistake

>>8815121
Sadly link don't work any more

>>8807418
I feel so related in everything that scares me.

Corsets y/n
I know the ancients knew how to do it

>>8744218
How do people afford it (t. too old fat and ugly for sex work)? And how much does just HRT (and associated things like doctors visits blood tests etc) cost starting out? Are there any guides to concrete numbers on this?

>>8816893
Live in a 1st world country.

Look up numbers for your area and ask your insurance company
Also black market

>>8816887
They seem like they'd be very uncomfortable.

>>8810572
Thanks. I'm trying that whole "love myself" thing. Sadly, the more I advance on that, the more I realize that she doesn't have a space in that world. It's sad because I part of me want to redeem her, but what she does and has done is just too heavy to do it.
Sometimes I think death would make thing easier, but that's not true. Death is the end. It won't make things into anything because there wont be nothing. There's no relief from this, I'm condemned to suffer this dychotomy for the rest of my life. What a fucking waste of life.
>>8810592
Yeah, I have read some interesting things from there. The "gray rock method" might be the best thing I have get from there.

>>8816893
This depends on a country. For me HRT (self-med) costs roughly $12/mo. For Burgerland multiply that number by 20-25, excluding doctor visits.

>>8818221
90 2 mg tablets of generic estradiol are $10 at Walmart.

>>8818317
generic estradiol from walmart is fucking gross
made my tongue go numb and had a chemical burning taste

>>8818743
It never bothered me.

I tried tweezing my crotch. it took days, but I finally finished. now I have gross red pimples everywhere. it's fucking disgusting.

Why is the hate so fucking intense? I've lost all confidence in my transition because it's so obvious people will always hate me just for existing. My friends and family who say they don't must be hugboxing me and virtue signaling to one another, because apparently deep down everyone wishes I were dead. No wonder you see so many people celebrating the trans suicide rate. I just want to be happy with myself and live my life but it's becoming so obvious that'll never be possible.

>>8818904
Should've used wax or shaving powder

>>8818922
>virtue signaling/hugboxing
Nice mental baggage.
>I just want to be happy with myself and live my life
You have to be confident in yourself regardless of the hatred you see around you. Hold your smile and keep walking, even when someone calls you a tranny or a faggot or gives you the evil eye. There's no stopping some people, and not everyone is going to hate you. It sounds like you might need to move out of wherever you are, maybe find a younger crowd.
Hateful people will always exist, it's the illness of humanity and nobody will ever learn, but that doesn't mean you should stop yourself from being who you are.
Looking in the mirror and seeing the right person looking back is priceless.

>>8818971
I used to see the right person looking back in the mirror. Now I just see a disgusting tranny.

>Nice mental baggage
I miss when I was oblivious to it

>>8819016
You need confidence in yourself, some therapy, maybe stop reading everyone as fake faces who don't actually support you, quit being around people who make you feel like a disgusting tranny in general because you aren't standing up for your identity and let negativity take it over.
You don't seem to have any confidence in the people around you either and I'd wager you're depressed or spending too much time reading the kind of schlock that trusts virtue signaling to be a much more common thing than it really is (unless you're around the worst people)

>>8818904
>tweezing my crotch

why not shave tbhon

>>8819081
Because the hair shows up under my skin around my crotch, so I end up with a gross shadow.

>>8816899
I live in the US, which probably doesn't count as a 1st world country for healthcare purposes.

What all is even involved? How do I get blood tests if I'm DIYing etc?

Basically, I want to know what I'm getting into before I start. At least for HRT, I know that surgery costs $HUGE.

Also does dosage depend on body weight?

>>8819203
Endocrinologist blood tests while you DIY.
Go see a real doctor first of all and beef up by reading //fem//hrt//mtf// pastebins but remember
real doctor first

>>8819356
Where do I find a real doctor who won't gatekeep me? I'm too autistic to be able to deal with that well.

I haven't been to any kind of doctor at all in my entire adult life, not even a dentist.

>>8819365
>I haven't been to any kind of doctor at all in my entire adult life, not even a dentist.
Fix that you immense retard.
Much like psychiatry/therapy you need to shop around for a doc

Never got a reply in the last thread; do the doubts go away? Everytime I start feeling like I want to be a girl, I doubt myself into repressing it after a week or two. This happens 2-3 times a year. This time it has been for like 4 weeks, but I feel the doubts taking back over again. I'm so unhappy with life. Every time the feelings come back I get more and more depressed.

>>8819373
Why would they go away?

>>8819373
No they don't, doubting yourself and your own conditions is a common part of mental illnesses. Even the schizophrenes doubt themselves sometimes.

>>8819455
But what if I'm not actually trans and I end up miserable?

>>8819203
You can get blood test through privatemdlabs.com

>>8819365
You could do a web search for informed consent clinics in your area.

>>8819373
For me, they faded away after I transitioned and realized how much happier I was

>>8819365
Informed consent. A lot of Planned Parenthoods have it as well, so check those too.
>>8819088
Make sure to exfoliate before and after. Also, I'd recommend an epilator over a tweezer
>>8818922
Find a new group of friends. I might get shit for saying this, but honestly search around for other lgbt friends. It'll be healthier.
Trans acceptance is growing, but the people against it are becoming more hateful and loud. Don't let them win.
>>8816887
Yes, but make sure to do it right
Steel boned, fitted specifically for you. Make sure it's not too tight- you should be able to breathe regularly still.
It helps if you can get something that can go under your clothes too, or find an outfit that matches. Corsets aren't as common anymore, so they draw attention.
Expect to pay a few hundred for a good corset- and this isn't something you want to cheap out on.

>>8819564
If you're not sure you're trans that's kind of difficult. You don't want to get memed into considering yourself trans if that's not what you really are, but you don't want to be scared off transitioning if that's what you need. What kind of future do you see for yourself if you repress? Could you see yourself liking being a man? Would transitioning be about living as who you really are, or is it more wish fulfillment? What would you miss if you transition and what would you gain? How severe is your dysphoria, enough to want to kys?

>>8819697
Imagining myself as a man in the future: I'm an alcoholic and might kms at some point because of depression and dysphoria.
As a female: probably happier, but a harder life because trans. Still might kms because of depression unrelated to dysphoria.
The button test: I'm like 90% sure I'd press it, but also think I'd end up regretting it.
I'm not dysphoric to the point of killing myself, but whenever I start getting the feelings again I get super depressed and want to do nothing for weeks.
I've been depressed since I was 9 (as in actually diagnosed) and I'm pretty much completely emotionally dull and feel unable to express my personality.

We're at the bump limit so I started a new thread. The /tgg/ revival worked pretty well.

>>8819828
>>8819828
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>>8819735
I replied on the new thread:
>>8819857