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Autism edition

• Makeup tutorials : http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels:http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels:http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts:http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training:https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
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tfw no gf
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>>8462051
chris..... harder..........
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>>8462042
>that name was ruined for me desu
is there a story to it?
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>>8462058
alright who in the FUCK are you
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>tfw I don't know how to be happy
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So thirsty for dick
Pls halp
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>>8462060
chris........ go harder...... mmmm.. chris....
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I bet I love girls more than you do
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tfw girls tell me I should totally be able to find a bf

tfw still no bf
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>>8462059
basically 99% of the people who defaulted to calling me daddy were either batshit insane, an awful terrible person, or both

so now it's ruined for me forever, and besides, it feels real nice to hear your name from a girl who likes you
>>8462066
stop this
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>>8462062
>tfw never been happy
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>>8462050
>>8462062

r u still going to therapy?
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>>8462073
chris.... don't stop.....
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>>8462062
The only thing that comes close to happiness is ignorant stillness. I'm afraid you're too smart for that. Smart enough to stop giving a fuck about the search for happiness, though. You should try that someday.
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>>8462079
what about cuddling that makes me happy
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>>8462076
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>>8462082
>tfw never cuddled anyone
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No mercury gf
SAD!
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>>8462089

many such cases!
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I wish I was a girl.
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>>8462062
Visit me in Florida dweeb
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>>8462094
Same
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>>8462087
thats a funny looking dog
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>>8462075
I literally don't have time, I have a full time masters program and interviewed non stop every week until I landed a six figure corporate job that I have literally no clue how to do (deciding what liquor goes in every store of a major chain and defending that decision to multiple indirect stake holders), moving to a new place/putting stuff in storage/buying a new wardrobe of mens suits/hair cuts/setting up cable/utilities/train passes/looking for a new place to buy and move to in 6 months
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tfw no transfemme datefriend
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>>8462100
who are you
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>>8462103
i already told you
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>>8462108
how do you know my name if you're nobody
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>>8462109
people post it all the time
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>>8462101

well of course it's expected that if you're that busy you're gonna not have time for self-care stuff, but you really do need to take care of yourself as well. you gotta make time!
you can't do all of the things you want to do in the ways you want to do them if you're not in the right headspace or whatever. like no one can, really.
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>>8462111
quit lying and reveal yourself
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what's the big idea
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>>8462112
this reminds me of Tesla

they realized they worked everybody so long that they weren't using their health care plan, so they self insured all their employees and banked a ton of money
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>>8462089
>tfw no gf
Sad!!
>>8462094
Im a girl it sucks
>>8462102
Tfw no genderqueer sexy androgynous life partner
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Fuck you /lgbt/, you memed my worldview.
You fucks actually made me believe that everyone secretly wants a tranny gf!
In reality people back the fuck off when they learn about my feminine benis.
And even if you get lucky and get someone who's cool with it they'll leave you as soon as they realize you're shooting for srs.
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>>8462115
im not lying if i told you my name you would have no idea who i am
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>>8462123
a surpring number of people are okay with me having boobs, taking estrogen, and legally being a girl

as a guy
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>>8462121
>>8462101
U r posting things that are kind of non sequitors
R u ok?
Take your crazy pills faye
>>8462123
Your fault
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>>8462121

lmao well don't let your work control your life!!!!!!!!!!!! it's pretty fucking hard to be happy if you're running yourself ragged and running on empty idk
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im lonely
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>>8462123
why would you be upset about people leaving you for wanting srs

bullet dodged
>>8462125
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>>8462129
I want this life desu
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what do you do when your brain is going really fast and you cant stop it
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>>8462137
alcohol
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>>8462134
post your discord you homo
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>>8462132
I saw ten thousand dollars go into my bank account this month, I wouldn't call it happy, but it was definitely like a small huh that's interesting
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>>8462133
same
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>>8462133
i'm lonely too
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>tfw not a young beautiful girl at EDC
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>>8462137
Bang my head against a hard object, cut, cry, or try writing
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>>8462142
Birdy#0509
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>>8462137

smoke weed or blare music lol
i have BPD so i literally have a million thoughts racing through my head allll day and alllll night and the only way to shut it tf up is to do dat shit
if i didn't have weed or music, when my thoughts start getting really dark and i start having an anxiety attack, i'd prob kms

>>8462143

ya but wouldn't you rather like idk
use that money to do things that further your life in a way you can not only appreciate materialistically, but fully?
like you could go on a nice trip with ur partner or like make a space for yourself that you really love or you could use it to help ppl or idk
what's the point of having all that shit if you can't enjoy it
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>>8462144
>>8462145
hold me
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>>8462141
cant because not 21 and not cool enough to obtain it other ways
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>>8462137
sit cross legged
close my eyes
picture a line going from the center of my body to the core of the earth
think about relaxing my muscles one by one from ears to feet
listen to my breathing for a bit
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>>8462150
i didnt know that was a bpd thing too
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>>8462154
>living in a country where the drinking age is not 18

why?
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>>8462151
Doki doki
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>>8462151

*Hugs her*


I want to feel human warmth
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tfw severely mentally ill
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>>8462150
I know you've worked hard, sometimes its what you have to do to establish a place

and you remember how that feels, it not necessarily bad unless you see it as bad
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>>8462157

BPD is like a tree of mental degeneracy and issues lol. i have horrible anxiety and the racing thoughts thing is part of it.
like literally nonstop thoughts at all times and opposing thoughts of everything 24/7. it sucks but it does help sometimes.
but music really does help and it's not illegal or expensive like drugs and alcohol!! if you have a gaming headset that blocks out sound that REALLY helps too
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>>8462159
my parents lived here then had sex and a baby came out and now i'm here, that's why
thank you for listening to my life story
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>>8462168
Aren't we all?
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>>8462171
Sorry I'm just shitposting anon, ignore me.
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>>8462172
no
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>>8462168
It sucks alot ):
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>>8462169

well of course, but you can't neglect yourself to the point of feeling like you can't be happy or that you won't be in certain aspects of your life!
you should be working towards something that makes you happy and taking some time for yourself while you're doing itttt
it really helps to take a step back sometimes. recharge a bit, talk to someone, etc... it'd prob make you even better than you already are!
idk i could be wrong though obviously
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>>8462178
Mean
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HMMMMMM
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>>8462184
Ugh
I want to finish watching sailor moon, ugh
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>>8462185
Hey Chris
Are you cute?
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>>8462186
I've watched all of the original one, but haven't got around to watching the remake.
How much have you seen?
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>>8462189

he's a gay, don't do it to urself merc..
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>>8462189
most of the terms used to describe my appearance are mostly hot, handsome and sometimes cute so I would assume so
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im sad and want a person to connect with emotionally
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>>8462191
Uh
Honestly none of it, but i guess you could say the first 30-ish episodes of the original anime?
I used to watch it with, my friend....but we would be doing 'other stuff'....
So to speak
So i wasn't paying attention
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>>8462195
me 2
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How can I achieve a more feminine body?
> I'm 5'5" and 109lbs. I'm new as hell to the exercise scene and I plan on dieting/working out soon but I'm really lost on what to eat/workout routine etc.
> also about two months or so on hrt
> what i'm really hoping for is just fatter hips, slimmer waist, flat stomach, the basics
> I don't really know where else to ask pls help
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>>8462195
Can i help in some way?
>>8462192
Yah i know, i have a fag fetish, knowing hes gonna dump me for a big manly man is a turn on
>>8462193
Post pic
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>>8462198
sounds gay
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>>8462205
suck my dick retard
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>>8462203
You must do the hard task of eating food.
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>>8462198
Well at least you had fun ;)
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>>8462203

pilates and a ketogenic/pescetarian diet

>>8462205

o tru i hadn't thought of that
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i couldn't sleep.
i also wanted to make something to lampoon my body for these fucking hiccups:
https://soundcloud.com/giggleplex/9th-symphony-remastered
i never had this opportunity until i got that recording.
i'm feeling a little better now
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>>8462195
what do you want to talk of?
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i just want to say in the spirit of gay pride month that i accept birdy as a homosexual man and i'm proud of him for coming out in the way he has
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>>8462217
you made me spit out my drink you fuCKING BITCH
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having a very un-uwu day
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>>8462226
umu
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>>8462217
proud of my brother
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>>8462206
Maybe shut up ok
>>8462210
I mean yeah i did have fun, but i generally DID want to watch sailor moon, i wish we could have just watched it and cuddled or something
>>8462211
Mmm, yes u see, hes a baby faggot right now but im gonna make him a cock guzzling flamer, and itll be great
>>8462208
Dont you have a baby penis though?
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>>8462229
no???
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>>8462209
Well, what kind of food?
How much of it?
>>8462211
>What the actual fuck is a ketogenic/pescetarian diet
I looked it up but I'm still quite confused kek.
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>>8462227
>>8462226
◉﹏◉
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>>8462226
Im sorry to hear that whats up?
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>>8462228
>>8462225

such pride wow

>>8462229

that's kinda hot ngl

>>8462234

low carb and fish like salmon only
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>>8462203
i wish i had your tummy
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>>8462241
aw, thankyou.

>It's not actually as flat lmao its just lighting and the angle
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>tfw ur a loser
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>>8462232
Prove it
>>8462238
Uwu
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>>8462238
Fuck I need more money
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>>8462203
You won't get a flat stomach without working on those muscles. Same thing for a defined waist. Also, you won't get a more feminine body with your bones showing even more. Don't diet.
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>>8462246
Birdy#0509
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>>8462246
>>8462249
CHRIS!!!#0509

actually it's this, I changed it again
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You are all failed straight men and i wish that you would all just fucking die
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please say something nice to me i need it
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Getting on my plane soon. Security didn't ask me about my girl tinkler.
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>>8462251
the emoji idk if it will work
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>>8462255
I hope you get thrown im front or a truck.

One less tranny is always a good thing you freak of nature.
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>>8462248
Well fuck I'm even more confused than I was.
I don't know whether to go on a diet or not now lol. I'll do the pilates and work out my core though.
but why does >>8462211 say I should have a ketogenic/pescetarian diet?
Also should I do cardio?
>Sorry I'm fucking lost
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>>8462255
youre a really great and nice person
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>>8462255
Uwu
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>>8462261
heh heh heh
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>>8462267
uWU
>>8462255
You can accomplish anything you set your mind to!
>>8462251
>>8462249
I actually would like to see, so i will add you another time though
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>>8462264
No cardio for now. You're just starting HRT, you have to gain a bit of weight to fully benefit from it. Looking feminine has a bit to do with having fat where it matters. Boobs, hips, ass, you know.
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>>8462272
Okay, well I'd like to have better hips and I've always wanted to have more fat on my legs, so are you saying I should just do pilates, and gain weight? I still wanna keep my waist slim but have better hips and I don't really know what pilates will change on my body.
>thankyou for helping btw
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need gf to hold me and tell me im a good girl
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>>8462269
So, should we call you Chris-chan?
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>>8462252
i was actually more homosexual than anything before transitioning, and if you define that by being a male sex regardless of transition, Im still pretty gay for men!!
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Tfw no Florida gf
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Who else body of a skinnyfat teenage boy
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>>8462277
please ;_;
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>>8462279
epic
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buying bf to tell me im a good girl
press 123 if selling bf
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>>8462284
would you rather be called chris-chan or daddy you have to choose one
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>>8462282
(girl), but yes hi!!
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>>8462283
>>8462277
I'll do whatever you want pls
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>>8462280
Literally nobody cares.


How pathetic amd low self esteem are you that you have to defend yourself anonymously. Youe entire post was " you're wrong in my situation xD"

Im never going to meet you. Idek who you are yet you felt the need to defend yourself since it was a perceived attack.


You're fucking pathetic
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>>8462285

>>8462286
this one
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>>8462282
:(
though boys don't have boobs, right?
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>>8462282
me except for puffy nips
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>>8462252
Hey, that's a funny coincidence!
I too wish I would fucking die
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>>8462291
yuh cuz u said everyone is something but im not. saying we should all die sounds like an attack to me anon!! now youre makin me do a big :think:
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>>8462291
why are you so mad online
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>>8462292
*moans*

daddy..
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I need someone to love me
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>>8462302
please
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>>8462302
I love you anon, I love everyone.
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>>8462301
*buss*
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tfw no daddy to buss in my bussy
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>tfw have busy but want gussy too
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>>8462282
Skinnyfat adult ;-;
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>>8462296
Listen

Just becausw you have some anime pics and you take poisonous untested rejected cancer treatment pills doesnt make you a girl. You need to understand that. Online you role play as a girl thats all you do. You are fucking pathetic. When you look in the mirror and see your pathetic body looking like a failed twink mixed with conetits and the only thing that finds you attractive are failed straight men like yourself you're going to realize what a failed human being you are.

Lucky trannies do not live long. Thank god.
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>>8462292
https://clyp.it/04mbnacx
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>>8462309
omw
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>>8462315
i actually have a cis gf who likes girldick! im not on hormones yet though unfortunately, but i look pretty girly! gosh i wish i could be a real girl tho..
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>>8462315
Wow you are so insightful, what school did you go to?
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>>8462320
Lol didnt you JUST say you were into men?

You're not even trying to delude yourself or others. Typical failed straigjt male trash. You coulsnt make it as a man so you took a bunch of dangerous chemicals which WILL kill you faster just to find some kind of value in yourself being a slut online.


Lol you are fucking pathetic.
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>>8462326
>You coulsnt make it as a man so you took a bunch of dangerous chemicals which WILL kill you faster

proof pls.
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>>8462326
yuh i like both, i had a bad experience with a man so i decided to try a girl for a while and we fell in love with each other, oops

will the pills really kill me? gosh finally, sweet release
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Someone please strangle me
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>>8462342
Can you strangle me instead?
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>>8462317
https://clyp.it/e251r505
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>>8462319
chris would you date me if i were a girlfriend-free girl
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Distract yourselves from your painful existence

https://youtu.be/ECBjZVstmkk
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>>8462337
Bisexuality isnt real.

Trannies are always bisexual becays they start out with men to validate their identity (insanity) but after repressing their straight man sexual ways once someone even slightly feminine gives them attention they just fall in love instsntly since for the last year they repressed their sexuality.


Bisexuality is the original tumblr sexuality
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>>8462342
do it yourself
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need a qt to touch my boobs
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>>8462344
Let's do it to each other.

>>8462350
I don't think that will work well.
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why am I always so tired
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>>8462356
debreast
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>>8462346
I'm never dating another Australian
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>>8462353
Deal
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>>8462349
i already told you dude stop being so crazy this is why you are alone
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>>8462360
lmao
what if I promise not to cheat on you with a 10 year old
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>>8462349
hmm i like dick more than vag, and i dont mind what the person is, male or female cuz im not with people for sex. but anon, if bisexuality isnt real, why are trannies always bi like you say? mosta my tranny friends dont like girls at all too!
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>>8462363
pfffhahahahsfjsha

maybe
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>>8462367
Why r you daddy now
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>>8462372
birdy is my biological father
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>>8462375
Wait whaaaaaaaaa

O:
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>be me
>walking towards my workplace
>guy in his mid 20's stops his car in front of me
>"are you looking for work?"
>laugh and walk away
What did he mean by this?
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>>8462377
Maybe he wanted you to fix his computer!
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Has Syndie posted recently? She never seems to be here when I am and I'm worried that her health issues may be getting worse quicker than I thought...
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>tfw mentally disabled
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>>8462377
porn or snuff
or both
>>8462376
yeah he's really disappointed in me for turning out to be a girl
all he ever wanted was a normal son to play ball with
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>>8462381
she was here yesterday
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>>8462384
;w;
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>>8462384
B)
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Anyone knows how basic is doing these days?
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>>8462387
Good. I'm not ready to have her vanish from my life...
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>>8462255
Love you.

>>8462282
Me

>>8462302
I love you.
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>>8462391
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>>8462393
Lily hiiiiii
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>>8462393
Ask Birdy.
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>>8462384
>Playing ball
That's what dogs are for. I guess boys aren't any better than dogs, though.
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>>8462377
I mean do you look like a hooker

because thats happened to someone I know, someone assumed she was a hooker and asked something similar
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>>8462401
dogs didn't build the world you live in from blood and dirt, you creepy misandrist hon.
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>>8462396
That doggo makes me happy!!!!!!
Ty Lauren (?) :>
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>>8462404
Lol
>>8462362
Will stop mommy
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>>8462406
hugg
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>>8462408
Hugg :>
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>>8462401
no not catch
ball
like baseball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsZ3Z8m-5HM
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>>8462404
God DAMN.
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>>8462413
I hate sports
>>
>>8462418
are you some kinda f*ckin nerd
>>
>>8462422
Sports are literally the most boring thing on earth.
>>
>>8462422
yes
>>
>>8462418
>hate sports
what are you a girl

desu i don't really have any interest in sports either and never have
but my dad did
boy was he disappointed
>>
>>8462418
i like your sex tapes i accidentally blackmailed for.
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>>8462402
I mean sweatpants and a long sleeve shirt are not what a hooker wears right?
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>>8462424
i mean i agree mostly but they can be fun to play once in a while
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>>8462426
Actually, I was briefly into rugby. Mostly because several of the girls I was friends with were seriously into that.
>>
>>8462428
Yeah nah. I have no idea what he was on about. Maybe you have a particularly hookery look to you.

Kidding, though for real jelly of that jawline
>>
>>8462426
sports are dumb
>>8462427
I wanna make a sex tape with you while gtx1070 guy watches and cries in the background and maybe a few of them can have a rap god cameo
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>>8462437
what about videogames
are videogames sports dumb

i'm a professional starcraft player btw
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>>8462442
Sport video games are dumb, but video game sports are ok.
>>
>>8462442
esports are dumb
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>>8462437
tfw no rap god cameo
>>
>>8462448
i-i was just kidding
I only play videogames recreationally

>>8462444
i like forza but that's about it when it comes to sports videogames
>>
>>8462453
HUHUHUHUHUH
>>8462454
CHRIS!!!#0509

add me I'm bored of mtfg now
>>
>>8462454
I think the only sport game I played was a Gran Turismo on the PS1
>>
>>8462457
[(You'll never be able to dox me chara)] - dox victim
>>
>>8462463
Dox plz, I challenge you
>>
>>8462457
sent ;)
>>
>>8462463
"naaaaah u ain't gon find me boiboi"
>HUHUHUHUHU-
>deathly silence
>>8462467
(;
>>
I want a wave to wash over me and just destroy everything
>>
>>8462472
same except replace the wave with a dick and replace everything with my ass
>>
>>8462474
same
>>
vibrators are cool
>>
>>8462465
Alright.

>>8462468
I seem to silence people like that easily.
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>>8462477
not as cool as YOU
>>
>>8462477
that's lewd
>>
>>8462477
Are they?
>>
>>8462477
What's a good vibrator to get
>>
>>8462490
sex toys are cringe agp shit
>>
>>8462490
just get a bf and tell him to vibrate when he's fucking you

if he does do what you say, hit him and tell him he's ugly
>>
>>8462499
cumming feels good
>>
>>8462502
i wish i knew. neither dildo nor finger did anything for me. i need a bf :/
>>
>>8462502
disgusting
>>
>>8462482
>>8462485
>>8462483
:3
>>8462490
any vibrator that has some way of preventing it to slip all the way inside.
Look for a shape that looks comf.
I'd look for which one in particular we got but it's a hassle now. Ask me when I'm back home.
>>8462499
nah people are allowed to enjoy their bodies. If ur a tranny and your dick doesn't work you gotta find ways...
>>
>>8462510
Your sex drive should be also dead if you dick doesn't work.
>>
Masturbating is good for your health
>>
>>8462502
im starting to get full body orgasms
>>
>>8462502
Sex is disgusting
Orgasm is disgusting
Sexuality is disgusting
Human beings are disgusting
You're disgusting for enabling sex addicts

Say no to sex today

Become asexual and free yourself from primitive inhibitions
>>
>>8462514
>Sterility means you don't want to fuck things

So all the sterile men on Earth are also asexuals?

My sides. I think you people will type anything to offend "le trannies" without realizing how stupid such insults make you look with their glaring leaps in logic.
>>
>>8462520
I'm telling Natalie indirectly called her disgusting
>>
>>8462518
proud of you
>>
>>8462517
i haven't masturbated in 5 years
does that mean im sick
>>
>>8462514
i'm afraid thats not how these things work anon
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>>8462521
are you actually retarded?
hrt makes your dick useless and kills your sex drive.
nobody is talking about cis manlets who can't get their dicks hard.
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im sad
>>
>>8462527
>sterility correlates with height
>Backpedals from "Your sex drive should also be dead if your dick doesn't work" to make some half assed statement about HRT side effects

Keep digging yourself that hole of yours lel
>>
>>8462522
SAY NO TO SEX

PURIFY YOURSELF
>>
>>8462529
>mtfg
>hrt facts are backpedaling
this has to be bait
>>
>>8462527
lol are you saying you can't be horny on hrt and if you can be then this has to express itself through your dick?

rly makes me think
>>
>>8462532
>Continues to shy away from the original statement "Your sex drive should also be dead if your dick doesn't work"
>Continues to dig deeper hole for self

Brainlets never change lel
>>
https://youtu.be/cixczzF0A10
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>>8462397
Hi pup'sis <3
>>
>>8462537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g0CcQFf3Qo
>>
>>8462536
>ignores that it was a reply to a tranny
anyways here's your (you)
>>
>>8462527
>>hrt makes your dick useless and kills your sex drive.
it did neither to me. hurts like hell whenever i get an erection now though.
>>
>>8462534
You don't get it because you're AGP and not trutrans©
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>>8462531
THIS!
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How long does it take for the nausea phase to go away on hrt ;-;
>>
>>8462543
Do you get them randomly or do you actually have to try?
>>
>>8462546
I'm the biggest agp hon in this thread but that's completely irrelevant to anything
>>
>>8462531
SAY NO TO SAYING NO TO SEX

Also, I meant to say Kara, but thanks for not calling me out on that
>>
>>8462551
i tug on it like once every week or two.
>>
>>8462542
>Accuses people of trolling and storms off after begrudgingly admitting fuck up

And now you've hit rock bottom. Sad!
>>
>tfw craving girlcock
>>
>>8462557
Why are you doing it if it hurts? I got mine hard a while ago just because I was curious. It hurt like a bitch and I didn't do it again. I don't even think about sexual stuff anymore. Isn't it like this for anyone?
>>
>>8462565
no its more like i just think about it way less
>>
>>8462565
because i want SRS and i'm afraid if it dies off the results will be hurt.
i think more about sexual stuff than ever. before hrt i might as well have been asexual.
>>
Should I buy one of those dildos that cum
>>
>>8462558
>these mental gymnastics
have another (you)
>>
S T I N K Y Eugiénie feet and S M E L L Y Emma diapers!!!!!!!!
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>>8462554
Sex with Kara is okay though
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>>8462581
Can I have her when you're done with her?
>>
>>8462582
interesting doggo
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/13229456
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>>8462583
Her sex drive is a lot higher than mine so you'll have to ask her
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/13229468
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>>8462587
Hmm, maybe I will...
>>
gay trans girls kissing
>>
which trip would you smooch
>>
It was confirmed.
I don't pass and people who gender me correctly are just being nice.

Had a co-worker talked to be about same-sex marriage and asked me when I was going to get married to my bf.

Time to give up on this journey and go back to being a man.
>>
>>8462607
i would smooch with *****
>>
>>8462610
congratulations sir
>>
>>8462610
>Had a co-worker talked to be about same-sex marriage and asked me when I was going to get married to my bf.

If this was your only problem maybe relax a bit? Same-sex marriage= lgbt issues and marriage=transwoman he knows getting married? Its not necessarily because he views you as a man. But even if it is, just gotta work harder at it?
>>
>>8462622
:/

>>8462630
I did all I could.
Voice, Ffs, srs, everything
>>
>>8462643
oh. well how's your make-up game?
>>
>>8462647
Good
>>
>>8462652
is that like a "eh, good" or a "yeah I'm good" or a "pretty damn good"
>>
Diaper anon hi
>>
>see meme thread about measurements
>check WHR
>0.8

did i win
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>tfw you make no progression with your internalised transphobia and end up trying to leave your hrt behind before you go on a trip for two weeks to force cold turkey and get back to full repression because it's the "right" thing to do
>>
>>8462662
yeah honestly hadn't expected you to take so long

were you like really homophobic or whatever before?
>>
>>8462652
Pretty good

>>8462658
0.7 is the optimal for girls
>>
>>8462643
Where was your FFS at?
>>
>>8462666
oh okay, don't know how I'll be able to get it lower since I'm already under a hundred pounds. HRT maybe would, going on it soon
>>
>>8462665
Yeah I was.

I only accepted being a gay guy in repression because people can't tell your gay in public and you can have a discreet bf who is straight acting too so it just looks like two guy friends out for a drink

So basically before I was dating a masc guy who hated gays but was gay himself

But the whole reason I keep struggling with trans is because you can't treat it and hide it at the same time
>>
Pls anti-hugbox my body
>>
>>8462671
>But the whole reason I keep struggling with trans is because you can't treat it and hide it at the same time

>implying you can't hide the effects and repress forever while on hrt
>>
>>8462674
un see.(dot) cc/ zatidubo/

I'm freakin dumb
>>
>>8462671
should prolly stop coming here imo. This website sucks for getting over self hate lmao people just love wallowing in it.

I reccomend tumblr
>>
>>8462306
do you love me too?
>>
>>8462675
A bf will notice my tits if I take off my shirt when it becomes too much to pass them off as normal male flab

I'll basically be alone forever eventually once I reach that point that locks me out of the gay male sexual market

My ex said that to me too. That no one except creepy fetishists would want me
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>>8462681
Yes, of course.
>>
>>8462678
Thats probably a good idea
At least give my mind a break
>>
>>8462682
your ex was a piece of shit desu
>>
>>8462667
Dechamps
>>
>>8462685
>Yes, of course.
send nudes pls
>>
>>8462675
> implying you cand hide the tits if you start under 30
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>>8462694
Um no sorry, I'm the purest tranny in /mtfg/ and I don't do that sort of thing, that's lewd.
>>
>>8462690
He was really good at using logic and biological sex to gaslight me tho
Still damages me now
>>
>>8462686
yeah
only thing this place is good for is promoting self medding and shitposting.
If this is the only place you hang out at during your transition you'll never progress in your transition mentally
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how to live in boymode if i cant wear a jumper in stupid hot summer weather
i cant wear just a shirt cus bumps
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>>8462699
I think the scariest thing he told me was that if I transition I will only be pulled into a cycle of ever growing self hate and isolation and alienation from society until I eventually committed suicide.

And he then offered safety from that fate by saying I'd have a happy and stable life if I stayed a boy with him.

Fucking MESSED me up :(
>>
>>8462666
got .76 :/ oh, well i started with .83 so i guess that's a big improvement still
>>
I'm in Florida now okay?
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>>8462675
>implying you can't hide the effects and repress forever while on hrt
idk bout you but even my A cups are rather visible now that it's summer. even under my sweaters i could still make out their outlines.
>>
>>8462699
>>8462718
weren't you with a guy who encouraged you and said he was fine with you transitioning? sorry, i haven't been here in a while.
>>
>>8462698
but you said you loved me :(
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>>8462738
I do anon, but I am pure. I don't do those kinds of things I'm afraid.
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>>8462750
alright, let's compromise then
show me pics of a non-lewd part of your body, such as your feet
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>>8462757
FOOT ANON IS THAT YOU?????
>>
Man, this fire's death toll is just going up and up and up.

Now it's up to 79 dead
>>
>>8462764
foot fetishism is literally the world's most common fetish, we're not all the same person, you racist
>>
Tfw no cute guy that's into my feet
>>
>>8462750
why not though :(
>>8462757
wtf dude why do you like feet
>>
>>8462733
That was a lie I told myself to make me feel better
>>
>>8462697
>>8462726
I'm a B cup nearing C, I wear a calvin klein modern bralette under a hoodie every day and it hides them perfectly
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>>8462774
y tho

>>8462781
B E C A U S E I A M P U R E A N D U N L E W D
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Friendly reminder that I hate you all except I don't.
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>>8462793
c-can we be friends then?
>>
Mee wurst troll evurr. nobuddy pay brijj tole. me nott sceary enuf. mee gett drunc an kil sellf. troll drown.
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>>8462781
>wtf dude why do you like feet
they're just a turn on, anon
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>>8462798
Sh-sure anon, just don't try to corrupt me.
>>
Just rode and came on a big cock ama
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>>8462809
The way you write and your Sailor Moon avatarfagging reminds me of another trip in another general who doesn't post anymore
>>
*gives up yet another dream because i'm an indecisive loser*

:ok_hand:
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>>8462818
Hmmm, Don't usually write this way, just shitposting desu. And I only avatarfag when I can be bothered.
>>
>>8462824
>you'll love being grown up they said
>you'll get to make all your own choices they said

>but you desperately need someone to guide you in life to not be a fucking loser
;_;
>>
>>8462835
FUCKING
THIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
REEEEEEEEE

>tfw whenever i DO make my own choice, it's shit and i wish i consulted someone else to make it for me
>>
>>8462835
>but you desperately need someone to guide you in life to not be a fucking loser
iktf
i like it when people treat me like a child and tell me what to do. luckily i've always been shy and made a childish impression on people. doesn't work as much anymore because i'm already 23 :(
>>
">The only people who want trap gfs are people who havent had one.

They're mentally ill and are bipolar as fuck due to being MENTALLY FUCKING ILL.

I've had 2, both from different backgrounds, both into different shit, both fucking insane"

im not mentally ill am i...? am i? ;_;
>>
Now that I know I don't pass, I'm going to slowly start to detransition
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>>8462848
>im not mentally ill am i...? am i? ;_;
>>
>>8462852
how long did you try?
how did you find out?
>>
>>8462809
whats your contact?
>>
>>8462866
3 years
This way >>8462610
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>32°C
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>>8462897
MAKE IT STOP
>>
Should I snag a super qt boy while I'm on vacation?? Grinder is blowing up
>>
>>8462919
i heard floridian boys do it dirty
>>
>>8462922
Well I'm dirty so..
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I'm at the clinic tavistock thingy
>>
>>8462897
I know right its disgusting.

>>8462931
May god have mercy on your soul, good luck.
>>
>>8462824
>>8462835
>>8462840
Iktf
>>
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>>8462919
>>8462928

Eyybb
I'm downstairs
Come out
>>
>>8462942
Am anxious :x
>>
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Good morning
>>
>>8462931
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N
>>
>>8462956
H-hi
>>
>>8462956
That pic tho.
>>
>>8462931
traitor to the white race, i hope you get gangraped on the way back./ˢ
>>
>>8462958
Yah
>>8462968
;×;
>>
I just talked to my bf about this and he said it was probably the grapevine effect.
Their were only two people at my job who knew because of something they were going through.
I didn't expect someone to open their mouth but it happens.
But then again I'm not even sure if it was the through the grapevine.

He says this because he knows that I don't ever have any issues when I'm out. I'm able to use women only spaces with no problem.


I don't even know what to think about.
What should I do girls?
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>>8462956
what's so good about it
>>
>>8462978
>I just talked to my bf about this
i'll never understand why girls in relationships browse 4chan, surely you should be focusing on that instead of this.
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>>8462979
Oh god that image made me lol
Saved
>>
>>8462984
Our relationship is pretty healthy and I don't come here often
>>
>>8462979
!!!!!!>>8462985
Accurate tho
>>8462984
For the bantz, homie
>>
is it bad if I uploaded my feet to porn sites when I was like 15 and got a lot of views (around 3000)
>>
Posted this over in /tgg/ but I'm gonna post here too to increase my chance of a response:

Alright so I'm a 19 year old mtf, I might be gonna detransition, who knows, but I really despise the effects of testosterone on my body. I want to get my testicles removed, I cannot afford it from a real surgeon. What would you all suggest as a means of finding a cutter to do it for cheap?
>>
>>8462990
>For the bantz
there is no banter on this board, all i see is crying trannies (which i get off to), crying gay guys (which i also get off to) and a bunch of mentally ill lesbians crying about the trannies that are crying about the lesbians.

its a massive bitch fight of a board, its not banter, for banter go to /bant/ or /pol/ those places are a good laugh.
>>
>>8463001
Thanx for the bantz, homie
>>
>>8462994
I hope you made some money by doing it. Why did you do it though?
>>
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Post images of Phienchen

She's cute and I need to fap
>>
>>8462990
N-no not accurate
>>
thinking about applying for a diversity fund for my course but id need to come out as trans to do it is it worth it?
>>
>>8463039
Money is money
If you need it yes, if you don't, no.
>>
>>8463039
money is money desu
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>>8463039
>>
>>8463049
>>8463052
>money is money
i'm sure those tautological answers are very helpful

money is indeed money, also trannies are trannies and spaghetti pizzas are spaghetti pizzas
>>
>>8463057
Being unable to understand common figures of speech is a symptom of autism.
>>
>>8463049
I do really need the money...
>>
So no answer to this dilemma? >>8462978


I thought this was a support group
>>
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Just because you fit every symptom of autism does not mean you have autism please don't bully
>>
>>8463070
tfw not smart enough to be autistic
>>
>why can't you just marry a woman and be gay in private
>have a child divorce your wife and we will raise it for you
>if you are your sister don't have kids we will have wasted our lives
>>
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>>8463061
only a disgusting abnormal normie would use autism as if it were an insult
>>
>>8463063
Then take the money

>>8463079
But being a normie is normal

>>8463074
Being autistic ain't all its cracked up to be
t. Autist
>>
>>8463085
>t. Autist
Nuh you're just a cute shy nerd. How was your sleep?
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>>8462824
Ugh story of my life.
I'm laying in bed terrified of reality right now, when I should be getting food, picking up new injection needles, putting together a paperwork packet for suporn, practicing my voice, guitar, piano, writing my book, anime, blog or podcast, trying to recruit for travel documentary and band, getting new glasses, researching makeup, etc. Fuck my existence. Idk how to do anything but sleep and smoke weed
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>>8463075
>tfw sister tells you two days ago that she doesn't want to have kids
>tfw you sterilized yourself years ago and have effectively killed your family
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>Be me
>Get stuff in the convenience store
>There's a woman behind me
>Poking me with a croissant because she wanted to go in front of me because she only had one thing
>"You should wait it's rude what you're doing"

On the on hand, I felt kind of bad for being rude to her

On the other hand, it feels good to smug for once
>>
Mtfg has gone to fucking shit.
You can't even get good advice anymore.
>>
mornin yall did ya has a gudnite? i took some e when i wokeup middle of the night. made waking up /cozy/
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>>8463095
>tfw 7 nieces and nephews
>tfw no pressure to have children
i owe my brothers and sisters for picking up the slack on this one
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>>8463104
If you were asking about the grapevine effect then your question was pretty vague and unclear as to exactly what it is you were asking.
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hi can we talk about dildos? i wanna know what to put in my butt.
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>>8463103
It's supermarket queue etiquette to let someone with only a few items in front of you if you have a lot of stuff.

Shame on you.
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>>8463117
Ya need ta stick with school you pinhead
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>>8463119
Normally I would, but she was poking me with a croissant for a while instead of just nicely asking me if she could get in front of me.
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>>8462978
Don't have expectations of stealth unless you're ready to quit your job, destroy all mementos of your past life and permanently abandon your family and friends. If anyone knows, they will out you at some point, deliberately or not. And there's no pushing the toothpaste back in the tube.
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>>8463112
Do I just take it as the grapevine effect or just say I was clocked and detrans
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>>8463093
A bit shorter than I'd have liked but I don't have to do anything today so ima just be lazy
How r u?

>>8463109
Must be nice not to feel guilt
Shoulda banked
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>>8463126
Maybe she didn't speak Dutch.
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>>8463129
But I am in a new place, that's the thing
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>>8463134
don't detrans over something that small
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>>8463039
>diversity fund
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>>8463136
Do you think you'll feel the itch to have your own children one day, or do you just feel bad about dooming entire your bloodline?
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>>8463134
I think you need to go to someplace where there is no chance of someone knowing you at all before you can tell whether or not you were clocked.

Also detransitioning because you were clocked is extremely mellow-dramatic. If it bothers you that much figure out whats giving you away and maybe see if you can improve it?

>>8463136
>A bit shorter than I'd have liked but I don't have to do anything today so ima just be laz
I was up till 2 trolling with birdy so iktf. Couldnt get a certain someone out of my head which makes it hard to sleep.

>Must be nice not to feel guilt
Shoulda banked
Im sorry that you feel guilt over that :/ I really dont think its solely your responsibility however if your sister can have children and simply is choosing not you.

You cant be blamed for what happened to you as a kid to sterilize you in the first place.
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>>8463094
>and smoke weed
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Hrt made my bpd worse
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>>8463166
She doesn't really pass on account of the beard. Maybe the eyebrows and ffs on some parts I think wouldn't hurt.
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>>8463166
What's the most kvlt drug?
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>>8463153
A little bit of column A a little bit of column B. Plus I no longer have the "I don't like girls anyways" excuse so it's a bit more real.

>>8463156
Sorry for keeping you up late ;-;

I dunno, I never had a sperm count done before hormones. There is the possibility some of it could have been viable but yeah. Was desperate to get on hormones asap and didn't attempt to bank.

It probably doesn't matter and I don't regret making that decision (it was definitely the correct one), just yeah. It's hard not to wonder if I could have done better.,
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>tfw wake up remember she called you pretty earlier
still feel nice
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>>8463177
>"I don't like girls anyways"
You know just because they say i can never get you pregnant doesnt mena we cant try ;)
>Sorry for keeping you up late ;-;
Dont apologize for being so amazing that I cant get you out of my head lol.
>It's hard not to wonder if I could have done better.,
You've talked to me about my "regrets" kind of before, just take the advice you gave me and apply it to yourself.

When you are in the middle of dysphoria, all you are thinking about is getting on hormones so that you can feel better. You cant feel guilty for not thinking of everything when you were dealing with something so terrible.
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>>8463174
probably psilocybe mushrooms, since they aren't addictive, have few negative effects and are native to europe
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A new study has concluded that people are, on average, 20 years older today than they were just twenty years ago.
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>>8463190
You're right, I shouldn't blame myself. I don't think anyone has banking first thing on their mind when they're drowning in dysphoria, especially not when you feel tied to a biological clock.

I mean hell I don't think of it much anyways it just sort of came up when my sister was visiting. I had sort of hoped I could at least be an aunt.
>>
This is going to be the longest vacation ever. My moms freaking out because we sat in the car for five minutes and we are wasting an entire vacation day, apparently
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>>8463142
Why not?
If I can't pass to everyone, then what's the point?

>>8463156
But I can't improve anymore.
I got ffs, srs, decent voice, make up is good.
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>>8463201
Being an aunt isn't all its cracked up to be
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>>8463194
Thanks
I'll get some asap to be as kvlt as I can
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>>8463124
yes i know
but i still like putting things in my butt. these are not mutually exclusive pursuits
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>>8463206
because not everyone should matter to you. you shouldn't worry what people think about you because most of the time they don't.
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>>8463201
>. I had sort of hoped I could at least be an aunt.
If it makes you feel better im 99% sure one of it both of my sisters are going to have kids so...
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Well this is happening.. He's role playing as colonel sanders
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>>8463213
Everyone does matter
If I get clocked, that means I'm a failure.

I doubt the cis tier trans women never get clocked
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>>8463194
same could be said about weed too it grew everywhere here pre WW2.
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>>8463221
you're not a failure. if you pass to almost averyone that means you pass.
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>>8463208
I mean it can be, it depends on the relationship between the siblings
When my aunt passed away my both my mom and grandparents became fairly invested in my cousin's well being. Did not get along all that well with my uncle though.

>>8463216
That does actually make me feel better believe it or not.
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>>8463212
I should have something in my butt when i program or something
>>8463220
BASED
Grindr memes are GOAT
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>>8463216
Wait, you have two sisters? I don't think I heard about the other one
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Reminder
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>>8463233
My nieces and nephew fight constantly. I think it's due to how they were treated growing up and how they're treated now. My stepfather treats them like shit.
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>>8463220
I DO DECLARE
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>>8463224
i guess so

i think mushrooms evoke a more earthy, rustic image that suits kvlt better than marijuana plants though
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>>8463241
BASED
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>>8463244
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>>8463201
At least Cistits can still have kids, and you can bestow all your maternal love on them.

In fact, I quite look forward to hearing all about your wife's son.
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>>8463239
1 whos 2 years younger, treats me like shit all the time. Another whos way young, adopted from china, treats me a lot better.
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>>8463199
same
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>>8463267
Right, durr I feel like a massive idiot right now we've talked about this before multiple times. I guess you've told me a lot more about how crap your biological sister treats you so she stuck out more in my memory.
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>>8463230
Is it?
Or am I just fooling myself
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>>8463247
maybe because we are not used to see hemp plants as a natural part of our flora here anymore.
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>>8463273
mhhm. also dont worry i dont want biological kids and i already told you why lol
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>>8463241
SO repressing trannies are male imitating objects?
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>>8463259
I don't think she actually can you know?

>>8463288
Yeah that's understandable
Also, how do you feel about adoption?
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>>8463304
>Also, how do you feel about adoption?
Takes a long time but its worth it desu. My adopted sister is the best family i have
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>>8463303
Theyre just men
:)
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>>8463308
I mean I more mean from the perspective of a parent but certainly from the perspective of a sibling you've had a very good experience.

Idk I do wonder if it's something I'd want to do someday but I don't think my professional life will be stable enough for a long time to go through that big long period of waiting.
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>>8463304
>I don't think she actually can you know?
I was under the impression she had a choice in the matter, given that she said she doesn't "want" biological kids.
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>already planning kids
wew
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>>8463318
>I mean I more mean from the perspective of a parent
They would have to be white ;)
>Idk I do wonder if it's something I'd want to do someday
If its with you i think I wouldnt mind it one day idk though havent thought about it all that much.
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>>8463320
trannies live short, unhappy lives and often meet violent ends

they have to treasure the time they have on this earth
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>>8463315
hey edie is it a good idea to blow 500 bucks in one week? is it gonna be fun doing that sometimes?
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>>8463315
This is a good meme
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>>8463332
*bond theme plays*

Repressors live forever
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>>8463323
Ok, three strong Aryan babies coming right up
Idk, it's not exactly something I think of a lot, but part of me still wants it someday and muses on it from time to time.

>>8463320
Look, having spent a very long time in a relationship where both people wanted different things I don't think it's ever too early to have that talk even in a purely hypothetical sense.

>>8463319
It may have originally been a choice but after this long on HRT it definitely isn't anymore
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>>8463333

honestly i can spend more than that in like.......under 10 minutes at sephora or on amazon or on clothes, ngl lol
i try really hard not to do that tho because it is nice, but it also sucks to just blow your money!!! why are you trynna do that?

>>8463338

here have another
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>>8463348
edie
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>>8463343
>dk, it's not exactly something I think of a lot, but part of me still wants it someday and muses on it from time to time.
Same desu. I dont think about it too often but I think maybe one day... with the right person... maybe
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>>8463348
Good meme

Have a funny screenshot
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>>8463363
this meme seems to be a little bit forced
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>>8463350

nimmy

>>8463363

lmao wtf
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>>8463348
I tried alot of things but still am bored af. idk things just get boring after a while or too easy. buying something online isn't the same as buying something with cash. you just order it and don't feel anything until it arrives and then you are like ok. I already made investments and savings and still have money left so idk what to do with it yet. I will travel to the uk and see if I can do something new and exciting there.
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>>8463370
It is but I love raids like that.

>>8463372
>PARTY ROCKER IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT
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>>8463372
edie i just woke up
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>>8463381
coffee
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>>8463385
gween tee
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>>8463361
I mean failing that being a childless couple that has tons of disposable income to travel also seems nice, especially when all your friends who have kids get miserable when they become angsty teens
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>>8463385
Nimmee
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>>8463396
hru desu
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every day i feel more suicidal
but also more like i'm making it all up
every single problem

like there's nothing wrong with me but i'd like there to be problems
i fucking hate myself and i don't believe myself anymore
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>>8463397
Always trying to be optimistic in life, no matter how bad my life is

What about you?
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>>8463378

experiences are def worth more than materialistic stuff tbqh

>>8463381

lmao idu this meme

>>8463382

good morning then nimmy hru
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>>8463403
avoidin mirrors

about to eat breakfast

cat on tum

it's not so bad
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>>8463333
>one week
One purchase

;-;
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>>8463412
sittin with this lil baby on my tum
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>>8463390
>I mean failing that being a childless couple that has tons of disposable income to travel also seems nice,
Yeah plus having kids means your sex life dries up...
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>>8463412
idu either but it's fun

>>8463413
sounds comfy at best!
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>>8463412
yeah I bought all this stuff but never went to another country not really the best choice. now that I have enough money to travel alone I'll do it.
>>
What so wrong about repression?

I've been on hrt a while now and my female identity has been completely eroded by cynical thoughts, self loathing and shame and now I'm ready to quit and move on with my life.
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>>8463431
>What so wrong about repression?
It doesnt't work forever and you eventually just kill yourself or transition when its way too late because you cant handle the pain anymore.
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i wonder what i did before i discovered i wanted to be a girl
what kept my mind occupied i wonder
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>>8463422
That's what vacations are for
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>mfw bf texts me this morning before work telling me how much he's thinkin about me but then he doesn't text me after to tell me what he thought bout

how dare he be busy at work and keep me hanging tbqh

>>8463417

omg wow helloh cat
>>
Transbianism or: How I Learned to Stop Being Suicidal About My Dick and Love Sucking My GF's Dick
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>>8463447
Yuh and we can still go to Cuba unlike our American friends....
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>>8463439
Yeah but that's been eroded away now
>>
Whas gud nigga
Man, not having a keyboard for a month sucked
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>>8463439
Can I stay on hrt for medical purpose so and still be a grumpy male cunt and hate trannies?
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>>8463252
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>>8463458
I have a theory

HSTS know how to socially be women, because they paid more attention to the social aspects to emulate and fit in with them and weren't generally accepted by socializing males

Transbians have relationships with women, and so know how to be a girl for their partner, having had tons of relationship experience
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>>8463459
Wew way to go America
Going back to the good ol' glory days
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>HTST, Hon, AGP, Transbian, Dinglepoodle

you people and these fucking terms
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>>8463468
This is wrong because you don't know how to be a girl
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>>8463475
Gay boys love their terms
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>>8463475
>tfw agp transbian hon
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>>8463476
I'm very very much a girl in most relationships I have though

>girlfriend asks where I want to eat
>"I don't know anywhere"
>how about chipotle
>not there

I'm literally perf at it
>>
>>8463466
Autism at its finest
>>
>>8463478
Same
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>>8463477
>>8463478
I mean

I'm just a woman born in the wrong body, it's as simple as that (to me)

but there's apparently a giant caste system

i don't know if i find that funny or confusing. both probably
>>
um
are teenage angst and dislike of parents a side effect of estrogen?
asking for a friend
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>>8463468
I must be a broken straight male then

Because I don't think being quiet counts as feminine
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>>8463498
But you like boys
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>>8463468
Faye am I a gay male?
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>>8463500
Yes but I feel I'm really masculine in behaviour in public because I am too scared to be myself unless with a boyfriend in private
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>>8463475
don't forget gt
>>
Hi /mtfg/ i wanted to appologize for fetishizing you all. Femenine features and male genitalia together tick all of my boxes.

If it helps I'm not creepy or gross.
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>>8463503
You're a gay female
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Never forget
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>2 weeks since i last masturbated
>only get hard when a certain someone does certain thing
MY DICK IS GOING TO ATROPHY WHERE DID MY SEX DRIVE GO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>8463503
How much experience do you have dating cis females? Dating a trans girl who wasn't an early transitioner is closer emotionally to dating a guy
>>
>>8463518
;-;

>>8463536
Zilch with cis females

>>8463530
Yo we should bump up our E together
>>
I've told everyone :fearful:
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>tfw argued with the psych guy at tavistock because he wanted me to be less depressed before doing anything

A-at least I have another appt .~~.
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Forever and forever
>>
my dingdong doodle ain't workin :(
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>>8463485
>I'm very very much a girl in most relationships I have though

>>8463536
>Dating a trans girl who wasn't an early transitioner is closer emotionally to dating a guy

hmmmm
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>>8463536
>wasn't an early transitioner is closer emotionally to dating a g
Tfw emotionally male.

>>8463543
>Yo we should bump up our E together
yuh
>>
Loads of new people here.
What's up with that. Where are my people from 2 months ago
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>>8463557
Ok brb tossing an extra pill in every day of my organizer
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>>8463558

>loads of new people here
>since 2 months ago

you are the new people here
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how to stop feeling like an ungrateful whiny cunt pls
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>>8463558
Hello I'm Coffee and I try to bring some positivity here.

And I'm also an expert on human behavior or something idk
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>>8463558
they're dead. i killed them
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>>8463551
did you just try?
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>>8463569
say thank you once in a while?
>>
>>8463567
I recognize you vaguely from your trip uwu
Also nuh, I was already there before. Been without a keyboard for a long time and before that I just abandoned 4chan

>>8463571
Neat. Hi

>>8463573
rip crushes
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>>8463579
what if i did
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>>8463555
I'm half and half

I've had people tell me I'm acting a certain way because of my hormones, talk down to me, felt unsafe alone, been attacked

But I don't understand not being able to have friends because they all want to fuck you , being told I can't make a decision at work because it's my time of he month, not being able to be direct without being a bitch, not having my bosses all look like me
>>
>>8463558
Lots of people have been quitting desu. Grace and Zna are both gone for sure, Eugenie wont dare to show her face again, and a lot of other trips are slowly starting to post less and less.
>>
>>8463597
if you let it atrophy enough it'll never work again desu
once a week is enough
>>
8mg/day wish me luck
>>
I had a long talk with a friend last night and it was very eye opening, she works as a new exec at Apple and got an email saying she was too direct, was constantly being interrupted while explaining something in her department by other managers and like

I don't know I've had people treat me like a kid which is weird, that guy who set up my bed did it wrong and it collapsed instantly when I put weight on it, but he wouldn't take my advice even though I had the directions, but I've never been treated like her
>>
>tfw relaxing on sofa listening to Charlie Parker
I'm tempted to go buy a polka-dot dress, someone please stop me
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HMPH
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>>8463606
Do you want to spray milk out of your nipples, this is how you spray milk or of your nipples
>>
>>8463602
the two I forgot the names of didn't kts, did they?
the ones that wanted to move to a shitty country

Also, pretty depressing :c
>>
>>8463612
*hugs*
Hmph :3
>>
>>8463606
This is the point where you just get injections instead.
>>8463610
Yeah I've had a longstanding problem with people not taking me seriously, I think it's my quiet voice and timid nature.
>>
i applied to the diversity fund thingy they said i needed an example of journalism which i dont have so rip and i cant be bothered to do one or get work expereince so double rip
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>>8463603
but it'll look cute
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>>8463626
*hmphs while hugging*
hmmphmhphmhphmphmhph
>>
>>8463639
*Hmphs while cuddling*
Hmph hmph hmph
>>
>tfw I've seen trans women talk about how once they started passing they couldn't be as direct and weren't taken as seriously, but I was never very direct and I've always felt like people don't take me seriously
Does this mean I'm tru-trans or something?
>>
I love girls more than anyone ever has before or ever will after, I am the ultimate woman respecter
>>
>>8463644

that's primarily because a lot of trans women relied solely on the male presenting card and booming voice to be taken seriously lol
lots of trannies were once shy nerds but even shy nerd guys have male privilege. shy nerd girls who are meek af aren't taken as seriously ever.
i've been feminine af my entire life and ppl take me just as seriously now in social settings as they did when i was a faggot. you have to demand respect with your presence and confidence as a woman or no one gives af.
>>
>>8463635
besides the worse srs results it can end up very frustrating as well
>>
>>8463631
I'm not timid or quiet, it was like a sudden light switch change at 2 years hrt, where suddenly I got mansplained to constantly

It's jarring
>>
Fuck dota. Just fuck that game. Its just a really great example of how scummy human beings are.
>>
tfw no gf to snuggle always
>>
>benis still works
>don't have genital dysphoria

B-)
>>
>>8463667
i don't know if i want srs tho
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>My sister is coming over tomorrow
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>>8463643
<3
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>>8463664
When are you working and interacting as a subject matter expert though, if kamala Harris, The definition of a tough smart bad ass poc woman, has issues with it, all women will have issues with it
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What does it mean when you buy your girl perfume and you just kind of like it's, and like the smell, but you spray boy perfume on and you get all kind of turned on by it and want to bite someone
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>>8463684
if you don't know then why risk it being a worse result if you do?

I fucking hate maintaining the piece of shit but I do it anyways because srs might happen.
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>>8463687

mansplaining or men not taking women seriously isn't a workplace problem, it's a societal one that happens everywhere lol
i didn't say no one has issues with it, i said you literally have to demand respect to combat this kind of shit for most anyone to take you srsly
which is tru. imagine if kamala was meek. or if any successful woman didn't put the men who degrade them in their place. like rip
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>tfw you realize gender isn't real
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>>8463699
i mean, i do, but it's getting harder to..
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>>8463664
>>8463644
>>8463672
It is oft said that a downside of being female is that you're not taken as seriously but neither are beta males therefore this isn't a downside for me, I'm already way used to it. My uncle owns an engineering company and he has never ever taken my drone project seriously. But when I told him I was working on releasing a line of cosmetics he was super supportive. So much sexism.
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kamala harris specifically worked to deny care to a trans inmate as attorney general of california
http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-ff-prison-board-approves-parole-for-sexreassignment-inmate-20150521-story.html
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>>8463714
fill your head with lewd thoughts, it makes it easier.
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>>8463664
That makes sense.

When I was little, sometimes other kids did things to annoy me because they thought it was funny, and I eventually realized that if I told them to stop in a normal voice then they wouldn't, but if I made my voice as deep and stern as possible then they would.
So I guess the thing you said is like an extension of that, where trans women would realize that a booming commanding voice can make it easier to get what they want.

>you have to demand respect with your presence and confidence as a woman
I hope I can build my confidence up to that level tbqh.
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>>8463716
You were supposed to do the right thing.
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>>8463716
she hates sex workers too
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>>8463708
Im Sorry I just get upset about it, especially when my friend is looking at possibly getting fired just for being a normal guy that happens to look like a cute Latina, or like congresswomen getting shushed and charged with talking inappropriately, or like the whole Uber thing

I don't necessarily think it's Something women can just deman in a lot of cases because men hold the keys of power
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>>8463716
>But when I told him I was working on releasing a line of cosmetics he was super supportive
Are you?
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>>8463727
It's fucked up, but she meant well in her cis way

>we did this once and allowed it
>we spend ten times as much on the trans woman moving her from prison to prison because she gets attacked and death threats from other women and would get raped by men
>please let us just give them hrt and counciling so we don't have to protect her life constantly

I get her logic, even if it's cruel
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>>8463731
im too pure for that :^)
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>>8463716

ya men are shit a lot of the time when it comes to that kind of thing :-/ at least he was supportive of some of the things you want to do

>>8463732

yeaaahh, i mean it's reallllly not easy to do when you don't have a deeper voice or a lot of confidence.
like it's literally a scientific fact that human beings respond better and take deeper voices more seriously
and that men specifically almost "tune out" when a voice is above a certain frequency. it's complete shit so you have to overcompensate.
i'm sure you could be a boss ass bitch tho desu

>>8463736

i understand, of course you're gonna be upset about something that's bullshit because....well it's total bullshit
you can only really do so much. i can't imagine that it's always easy in male dominated environments to earn respect as a woman either
most powerful women i've met who work in fortune 500 companies had to be a fucking bitch half of the time to get where they are
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>>8463733
>>8463741
Yeah I am, I'm tired of being broke so ive been trying to get support to start a business in something, the drone is left-field but I also like cosmetics and I made a fragranced product which a few people liked so I've been working on it since 2015 but it got put on ice because I came out as trans in 2016 and that sucked away all my money. It was hard enough before because my credit is bad so getting loans is difficult meaning I was doing it from parental handouts.
>>8463735
?
>>8463760
My dad just openly laughs at me "how will you operate your 3D printer with long nails?" Fucking pig.
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>>8463760
yeah, it is p bullshit

>i'm sure you could be a boss ass bitch tho desu
c:
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Daily reminder that if you keep doing some thing, you may get decent at doing the thing.
https://clyp.it/qy5tpkpq
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is my boyvoice deep
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>convinced and happy about transition
>think about growing up as a man anyway for a bit
>maybe it wouldn't be so bad actually
so this is how it feels to be amy
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>>8463774
huh, this is surprisingly pretty nice to listen to

tu as vraiment fait du bon travail
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>>8463756
just think lewd thoughts about your gf or something
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>>8463766
>My dad just openly laughs at me "how will you operate your 3D printer with long nails?
sorry for your dad :/ mines awful too. lately he tells me all the time to go to the kitchen, clean up, cook and be a good woman. i don't even live there anymore. at least he calls me his daughter now so i guess i should be happy about it?
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>>8463795
Ayyy :D thanks
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i said, is my boyvoice deep

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ocTm9J5VcE
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>>8463794
I never feel good about being a man. I feel good about hiding from being trans.

Even in my Spartan days. I had to be around other males to reinforce it. I was avoidant of girls cause they caused dysphoria and made me uncomfortable
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>>8463811
I prefer your girlvoice, it sounds more nervous
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>>8463817
but is it deep
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>>8463820
No, I don't think so. But to be honest, I'm not exactly an expert on this subject
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Fuck what should I do. My sister is coming over and I haven't seen her since I got kicked out.
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>>8463843
say hi and talk to her? i mean if she comes over she obviously wants to see you so you don't need to worry.
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>>8463766
That's honestly pretty neat. How do you break into the fragrance industry and develop a scent?
If you aren't going to leave I hope you talk more about the interesting things in your life instead of being a cunt.
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>>8463811
not super deep, deeper than mine but i think im p high
https://clyp.it/0xgylbzd
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So if it burns when i get an erection thats atrophy right? If i start using it more will it burn less or is it always going to be like this.
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>>8463846
The thing is, she doesn't know that I live like this. She moved out before I got kicked out. I told her about it when I was 16 but after that I never spoke about it with her again after she laughed at me.

Once I got my own place, me and my sister pretty much haven't talked at all until today.
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>>8463875
stop touching chili powder before handling your junk
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>>8463875
that means ur dying
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>>8463875
It will stop burning if you start fapping more
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>>8463880
well, still she wants to get in contact with you again and probably get to know you closer, make up missed time. go there, be nice and see where it goes. if she laughs say that you don't appreciate that and that she needs to stop. if she doesn't care she can leave again because you don't need to take that kind of shit from nobody. sounds good?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13232362
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need a gf so badly
i want to love and be loved

i want someone to share life with
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>>8463895
I'd agree with you if I didn't hate her. Not because she laughed at me but because she's rather...mentally unstable to say the least. The only times we sort of got along were the times when we had to team up to survive my stepmom.

I mean I could try regardless but it will be very awkward.
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>>8463899
It means that you didn't pass at the time when you got clocked, but passability can change over time.
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>tfw the earliest therapy appointment is three weeks from now
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>>8463878
That's not fair ;-;
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>>8463878
Nice meme. dont make me break my voice again by posting mine
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>>8463906
No
Passing is either 100% or you don't
If someone can clock you, you don't pass
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>>8463914
>earliest is 3 months
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>>8463909
>>8463911
>>8463915
>>8463917
>>8463920
Kinda looks like my puppers
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>>8463930
Lesbians don't pass
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>>8463935
shave dogg
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Would it be wrong to catfish the most recent mtfg rapist with dsl's?
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>>8463923
>meme
https://clyp.it/eniqdd1p
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>>8463930
So if someone clocks you when you're 6 months on hrt, but you never get clocked again after that, then you don't pass?
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>>8463869
>I think I'm p high
Same
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>>8463937
Lipstick ones do
Bulldykes are just psudeo men
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>>8463941
Ok fine you win. Do you want a reward?
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>>8463944
Well I mean if you had been on hrt for a long time, say 3 years.
It's even worse if you had surgery
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> call father to wish father day late
> wish, talk blah blah blah
> he says something like "The more it goes the nicer and sociable you get that's super nice"
Intensely thinking about telling him lmao
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>>8463950
Yeah
W-what did you have in mind?
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Fuck it, if my sister wants to see what I am right now that's fine. It's not like we were that close anyway.

>>8463941
Your English is very cute

>tfw dutch dialect engrishkun
fug
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>>8463946
duude, weed, lmao
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>shootin inna woods
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>>8463851
Thanks. I use standard scents it's the shapes and themes that I design myself. A shop said they liked it but not the packaging so I'm on the right track I think.
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btb taking a shit lads
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>>8463960
I like her overpowering and extremely noticeable Canadian accent
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Man I miss (uwu)face, nim, cisgender mammaries, coffee, valq, faye, squishy amy, shakira
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>>8463959
How about a brojob to celebrate your masculinity
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>>8463976
I like barely have an accent at all

>>8463960
Thanks
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>>8463981
you're literally in nim's state right now though, you could just pop by and see what the dealio is
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>>8463981
Take your (you)
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>>8463986
i watched a documentary yesterday and some canadian guy actually said eh

they actually said it

and they wouldn't stop
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>>8463981
i dont miss u
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>>8463976
She doesn't really have an accent though but idk I like the way she speaks if that makes sense

>>8463981
I miss Faye too

>>8463986
yw
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>>8463981
hi
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>>8463968
It looks like it would be hard to keep the vial at the right height while also drawing into the syringe at the same time.
t. has only ever used ampoules
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Being clocked means I'll never pass.
I'm tired of trying so hard and not getting anywhere.
I guess transition wasn't meant for me
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>>8463996
god guides me
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>>8464000
GIVE ME YOUR INJECTIONS NOW
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>>8463986
>I like barely have an accent at all
Yours is more noticable than mine i think tbqh

>>8463981
why me? im literally the worst poster
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>>8463998
i will never pass im in full boy mode with a purse and pink nails. hrt makes me feel 100%. fuck a dress. why do u need confidence from others?
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>>8463994
>>8463981
Faye's dead it's only Jay now
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>>8464003
u hate me too buddy

i gave some random dude some aa pills when he asked me about tranz

^_~

>>8464005
your voice is tits
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>>8464009
Confirmation that you pass makes one feel better
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>>8463986
>I like barely have an accent at all
I noticed it within like 3 seconds of hearing you, way back before I even knew you were a Canadian.

Canadians are always in denial about how strong their accents sound though.
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>>8463981
No you dont
-You-
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>>8464018
I DON'T NEED THE PILLS I NEED THE INJECTIONS
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>>8464017
Pic related
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>>8464005
My mom has a very strong Albertan accent I'm going to blame her.
Plus my extended family they all live out in the boonies

>>8463981
>when beep doesn't miss u

>>8463994
I speak with precision because autism :)

>>8464022
Canadians don't have very strong accents at all I probably just said 'about'
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>>8464030
Faye pls
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>>8464027
move to a real country. britbong cuck go beg your queen while i pray for god to kill her
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>>8464034
Elanna I miss you but I'm always under the impression you don't like me from how few (you)s you give me
>>8464027
Nim I'm at bluegreen rn come see me
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>>8463981
> Illegal (you) farming
https://clyp.it/uomgxwkp
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>>8464034
idk what that has to with autism but cool! Wish I could speak english with precision
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>>8464030
Kinda looks like a girl ...can I tease you about that?
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>>8464041
im not a britbong wtf

>>8464046
in orlando?

uh when are you leaving
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>>8464051
Absolutely haram
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>>8464046
I think we've had this talk before
Idk, I just don't give you many (You)s it's not because I don't like you. Some of the (You)s you give me are things I don't really know how to respond to.

>>8464050
It was joke I not autistic ;-;
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>>8464052
Saturday I think
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>>8464034
>My mom has a very strong Albertan accent
>Canadians don't have very strong accents
Hmmm

HMMM
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>>8464061
I understand and miss you
>>8464056
Ok you stud you
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alright so this is my MASTER PLAN to get an HRT letter from my therapist

step 1. print out my three lab results to prove that im on hormones

step 2. if that's not enough, bring in my HRT and show her pill identification sites to prove that they are indeed what im saying they are

step 3. if that's not enough, TAKE THE FUCKING PILLS IN FRONT OF HER SO SHE SEES WITH HER OWN EYES THAT IM TAKING HRT

step 4. show her in the dsm-5 the definition of gender dysphoria and that i meet the requirements

step 5. give her examples of HRT letters that other therapists have written that i got off reddit

i don't know what else i can do if she still refuses after that
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>>8464061
I know!!
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>>8464030
Nice to meet you Jaye
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>>8464064
hmmm

if you really wanna meet up i might be able to drive down there one day to go to like epcot or something

i don't wanna ruin your vacation tho, so it's okay either way
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W14-40omhWY
daddy
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How do I ween myself off of hrt?
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>tfw every man who would date a transwoman is an embarrassing dorky cucky man who's only open to it because they're either a submissive beta fuck who wants to take it up the ass or a because they're a hardcore neckbeardly sub-human who thinks only transwomen can understand their love of videogames and anime
>tfw settling for just dating a butch woman because a good portion of the women willing to date transwomen are somehow more man than most of the men willing to
>tfw everything's mostly okay and I love her and all but I still cry about how I'll never be a normal(not cis, cis is a bullshit made up word from egotistical trannies, "cis" people are just normal people) woman who gets to have a happy normal happy relationiship with a normal genuinely attractive man

Haha, hey hey, who else is drunk in the middle of the day contemplating suicide? Cuz I am lmao if there's any god out there he must have just really not wanted me to have anything resembling happiness in my life why do I deserve this hell I can't wait until I finally die lol
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>>8464073
You should ask her for some water because you forgot to take your estrogen and then play it off
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I want Varg to teach me how to play myfarog and tell me what I'm gonna find out today
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>>8464076
H....i
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>>8464090
>tfw every man who would date a transwoman is an embarrassing dorky cucky man who's only open to it because they're either a submissive beta fuck who wants to take it up the ass or a because they're a hardcore neckbeardly sub-human who thinks only transwomen can understand their love of videogames and anime
Those are just men who deliberately go after MTFs

What you have to do is trick a guy into thinking you're cis (I'm sorry, "normal"), then later revealing that you're trans, that's how you get them
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>>8464073
dude nim
1) find lgbt friendlt gender doc
2) lgbt focused therapist
da fuq? my endo gender and therapist are beaming when i say i want orchi/srs
i got liquid e after one month of seeing them.

move buddy
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>>8464066
I mean hers mostly just sounds rural
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>>8464115
tfw no strong rural accent
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>>8464098
but would he just put us out of our misery? let's find out
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flordia is basically like the bible belt

lol sorry
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>>8464111
my experience with gender therapists has not been positive

it'd also cost me more money to go a different therapist, my therapist is supportive but hesitant to give me a letter since im her first trans patient
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Help me get off hrt you damn trannies
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>>8464105
>trick a guy into thinking you're cis
I don't think I'm physically capable of that.
Also I already have a gf, and like I said she's more man than nearly every guy willing to date a trans"woman" such as myself. It's alright and I'm okay enough with settling like this, but I really wish I hadn't been born into this terrible nightmarish hell of an existence. I really wish some natural disaster or something would kill me so I didn't have to work up the guts to do it myself some day.
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>>8464127
northern florida is yeah

central florida is like just conservative, but my county is one of the only ones that went blue in florida during the election so maybe i have slightly more resources available here
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>>8464125
That would be amazing
Have his literally autistic wife or his aryan children throw me off one of the cliffs they hiked to
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>>8464129
wrong thread
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>>8464136
Fucking do it
Make me regret my transition
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>>8463981

me rn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUY-Iw0QK8I
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>>8464139
no, it was probably a good idea in the long term
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i don't think i'll be able to take my estrogen sublingually in las vegas.
i think i'll have to take it orally from now on.
i hope that administration method will make my body's changes a little more sparse
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>>8464151
how have you been alines

it's been a while
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>>8464150
It wasn't
This fucking transition has been a complete mistake
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>>8464177
go on
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>>8464172
i've been fine.
how about you?
i guess you didn't notice i came back a couple days ago?
i spent the whole week before in a psychiatrc hospital
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>>8464151
do you take estrofem?
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>>8464178
I started too late and no matter how hard I try, I'll never be a girl
I regret my ffs and srs
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>>8464183
idk, i take the greenish blue elliptical pills w/ the hexagonal 'b' on them
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>>8464182
oh, what happened?

i just came back from a trip to europe a couple weeks ago
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>>8464186
pics?
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>>8464105
Well I was in good shape and attractive and wanted to date a transwoman and protect her and make her happy

But then I turned out o be trans myself so...
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>>8464198
Why post pics when people irl tell me I don't pass.
It happened at my job today.
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>>8464195
last thursday i was feeling really depressed by losing a job b/c of low blood pressure a few days prior.
i was planning to jump off of a building, but fortunately, i called the police before doing anything.
i spent the next week in a psychiatric facility, & now i'm on prozac
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>>8464207
sorry that happened to you alines

hope you're feeling better now :(
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>>8464214
i am
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>>8464205
How are we supposed to give you advice on transition/detransition or tell you it was a mistake if we have no clue what you look like
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>>8464205
it's not just whether you pass, it's in what ways. if you don't know how you're fucking up then you can never improve.
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>>8464188
wierd, whats its name?
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>>8464224
it's just just generic estradiol, from teva pharmaceuticals usa
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>>8464218
Because opinions mean jack shit.
I've already posted in pass gen and got conflicted opinions

>>8464222
I can't fix my body
I have the unfortunate inverted triangle plus my face is just too masculine
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I hope my hormones have arrived by the time I get home from my dads
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Is angie having another meltdown?
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>>8464203
It's okay, most chasers eventualy become trans.
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>>8464230
Theres no such thing as generic estradiol but okay
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>>8464239
Don't think it's Angie.
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>>8464245
Literally like half of people here are on generic estradiol
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>>8464236
conflicted opinions means you're on the right track. gaining some weight would probably help with your body shape.
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>>8464258
I have gained weight and it all went to my stomach. I'm tipping into over weight for my 5'7 frame
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>>8464252
yup, no brand name.
the particular kind i'm on is 17β-estradiol
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>>8464273
yeah that's estrofem
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>>8464280
then it's a generic of estrofem
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>>8464283
im pretty sure estrofeme is a generic too but i could be wrong

it's the same thing tho
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>>8464252
Right... and it comes in different forms estradiol valerate or hemihydrate. Smarty pants.
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>>8464290
>>8464290
New
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>>8464273
>>8464280

Right thank you.
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>>8464288
well, it's also the most potent naturally occurring estrogen in mammals.
so all products containing it are generics of ovarian estrogen
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>>8464289
>valerate
An ester of valerate, and not even the same drug
>hemihydrate
Literally the same thing as estradiol, term is used interchangeably with estradiol
>>8464288
Estrofem is a trademark
Estrofem is to estradiol as Prozac is to fluoxetine
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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