/lgbtuk/ - BritLGBT

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Already prepared to hear the excuses on why this is all our fault.

>>8330965
You don't know who did it you peasant cretin.
It could be a white British Christian for all you know.

>>8331016
Be ready to eat your words very soon, ignorant fuckwit.

>>8331016
>>8331045
Take a look at the comments
https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/866783026218455042

>>8331045
I don't think you know the definition of the word ignorant.
Those of us who do, would call people who jump to conclusions instead of learning facts, ignorant.

I think ISIS would have taken credit by now if it was them.

Nobody at all has taken credit afaik which runs contrary to the goals of terrorism so I think it was just an edgelord murderer. Like Columbine, which would explain why they targeted teenage girls.

Either way so heartbreaking.

>>8331073
Smarted up. This is how it happens now. Individual attackers act on behalf of groups that radicalised them on youtube without being in direct contact.

>>8331064
Thinking there's even a 1% chance this is a Christian terrorist is ignorance. Thinking there's even a 1% chance this is white British non-Muslim is ignorance.

>>8330965
Millennial fans of a complete fucking nobody pop act?
NOTHING
OF
VALUE
WAS
LOST

Either way, we need a decent government to keep this shit at bay.

>>8331077

Even when individuals are radicalized, ISIS usually makes a statement. They took credit for the gay nightclub shooting and all the dumb mass-drivings. Doesn't ISIS want to look tough and such? Or is this crime so evil not even ISIS wants to touch it?

All it takes is one bitter edgelord to do this kind of crime and maybe even die in the blast. Its not unheard of. We are just conditioned to think big attack = terrorist = Muslim. But maybe not.

>>8331082
>Lol people died nothing of value was lost lol
Ironicly we would have probably gained value had you yourself been lost in the blast

>>8331082
suck out you edgy faggot

>>8331090
>We are just conditioned to think big attack = terrorist = Muslim.
Quoting so it's on the record that I told you so when it's confirmed Islamic.

>>8331108
Nice to see someone with some sense here.

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>>8331082
>Either way, we need a decent government to keep this shit at bay.
Good luck with that.

>>8331108

I'm not saying it is or it isn't. But ISIS never took so long before, Islamic terrorists are fast to take credit. What other terrorist attack did they not take credit for after they did it?

I do hope it isn't. Because I hate to see Islamaphobic bullies get so happy and powerful. Thats just me.

>>8331123
Everybody take note of the priorities of the Islamophiles.

>>8331123
>Because I hate to see Islamaphobic bullies
If you're posting on /lgbt/ and not scared of Islam, you're doing it wrong. Would post a clip of someone getting thrown off a roof but I'm not heartless enough for that and it won't change your mind, I'm sure.

>>8331136
Not all Muslims are bad people. Its BECAUSE I know how it feels to get discriminated. That I don't want to discriminate and act bigoted towards others.

Blaming all Muslims for assholes like ISIS etc. is like blaming all lgbt for Jeffrey Dahmer. But I know saying that won't change your mind either. I just really really hope the attacker is atheist/christian/hindu/buddhist/scientologist/wiccan/anything but a Muslim.

>>8331131
My priorities are to stop innocent people getting hurt. You got to admit Islamaphobes are getting powerful and they love stuff like this.

>>8331149
>Blaming all Muslims for assholes like ISIS etc. is like blaming all lgbt for Jeffrey Dahmer.

Most Muslims approve of ISIS. This is not true for LGBT people and Jeffrey Dahmer.

Only a straight person would think to say something as pedophilic as what you said.

>>8331149
>My priorities are to stop innocent people getting hurt.
How does smearing Islamorealists as irrationally fearful of the biggest threat to all of us save lives?

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Welp, this is now another "LGBT and Islamophobia" thread I guess.
>>8331149
No, they're not and it's why I said Islam, not Muslims. And no, "Not all Muslims" but please take a look at this chart and tell my I should believe it will be ANYTHING other than Muslim terrorism.

>>8331155
>Most Muslims approve of ISIS.
That's not true. ISIS kills Muslims and terrorizes Muslims.

>Only a straight person would think to say something as pedophilic as what you said.
What do you mean? Point is, its WRONG to judge all LGBT based on Jeffrey Dahmer. Just like its WRONG to judge all Muslim based on ISIS. I am trying to show you empathy.

>>8331156

Islamaphobes are in themselves hurtful towards innocent people.

1) Bully innocent Muslims. Sometimes using violence themselves, even murder. Google hate crimes against Muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobic_incidents

2) This bullying causes Muslims to feel isolated and hurt. Sometimes causing perhaps self-harm or suicide on top of deep emotional damage.
3) Some isolated and hurt Muslims join terrorist organizations to get back at the West.


Islamaphobes and ISIS are great friends.

>>8331165

The chart is way too tiny I can't see it. I am guessing it uses skewed figure to show Muslim terrorists as being #1 (by sorting via death toll instead of via individual incidents and by focusing on the world instead of just on the UK or Europe).

"Most violent incidents are Muslim" =/= "all".

POP QUIZ

What percentage of UK Muslims believe being gay should be against the law?

>>8331173

POP QUIZ
What percentage of islamaphobes think Islam should be aganist the law?

>>8331167
>That's not true. ISIS kills Muslims and terrorizes Muslims.

That in no way disproves what I said about most Muslims approving of ISIS. Straight people kill and terrorize LGBT people, but most LGBT worship and suck up to straight people. Most poorly conducted and fictious scientific studies are produced by scientists, and yet most scientists promote there being more scientific studies. None of these things you or I said are mutually exclusive.

>>8331174
Equating Muslims with "islamaphobes" doesn't do your case any favours.

>>8331186

You are right Islamaphobes are worse. Because some Muslims are assholes, not all. But ALL Islamaphobes are.

>>8331183
You compare straight people to ISIS?

>>8331193
I would never accuse ISIS of having tortured and killed innocent people for hundreds of thousands of years.

>>8331193
I'm sure you'll still proudly defend them if they were had you on the chopping block to be stoned, hung, thrown off a roof or beheaded. And I say that with no hint of irony at all.

>>8331174
There are actual surveys showing how homophobic Muslims in the UK are.

>>8331167
Germanophobes are in themselves hurtful towards innocent people.
1) Bully innocent Germans. Sometimes using violence themselves, even murder. Google hate crimes against Germans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanophobic_incidents
2) This bullying causes Germans to feel isolated and hurt. Sometimes causing perhaps self-harm or suicide on top of deep emotional damage.
3) Some isolated and hurt Nazis join terrorist organizations to get back at the Jews.
Germanaphobes and the Nazis are great friends.

>>8331008
If only you let in more refugees this could have been avoided!

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>>8331008
>>8331356

>>8331200
His roundabout thinking may be an example of pathological altruism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_Altruism

This is too far. Politicians have to do something. It can't be allowed to happen again.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-bombing-katie-hopkins-final-solution-muslims-arena-terror-attack-phillip-schofield-a7750656.html

Something has to change. She's already been investigated for hate crime in the past but has never been brought to trial. She can't keep getting away with it.

>>8331174
I think all religion needs to fuck off forever

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I thought this was a bit creepy. Talk about ominous timing. You just know this got his attention and hit close to home for him.

I admit being distracted by Ariana's hot mic saying she hated America.

>>8331174
All religions should be outlawed. The belief in a god shouldn't need cult like worship

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>people keep screeching at Katie Hopkins on twitter not realising they are just giving her free handouts from it
Social media should be banned

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>>8332109
Stop samefagging and go back.

don't forget ISIS also claimed that bus attack in Spain recently was them and then it turned out to be a rogue trader

my prediction is the dude might have been an Islamic fundamentalist, but acted alone / only with one or two pals, not part of an ISIS cell

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>>8332123
Nice one retard

>>8331016
Well what do you know, it was a muslim!
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/23/ariana-grande-manchester-bomber-named-as-salman-abedi-6656635/

>>8332130
So far, that only proves you have a phone.

>>8332286
False flag, interesting how this happens right after the Tories take a nosedive. And oh, to a bunch of cute white children too.

>>8332304
>False flag
Kill yourself, children are ripped to pieces with a nail bomb and you can't do anything but think about how this is going to affect your precious Hamas fellating waste of skin

WELL IMAGUN MY SHAWK

in all seriousness though, who else is leaving as soon as they can? I'm going the next chance I get or, more realistically, when I finish uni. Easier said than done, I know, but my career is more profitable and more opportunities than in America than here anyway

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>>8332304
actually fucking kill yourself you disgusting muslim piece of shit I hope you and all your people get wiped out painfully and slowly. I don't even give a shit about some stupid kids I just hate your people so fucking much. How does it feel to have single-handedly ruined this country, and many others? You disgusting shitskins need to be wiped out.

>>8332333
I'll leave when I have the money to open a cafe in another country

>>8332317
>>8332342
u mad white bois?

>>8332304
Fuck off commie shit.

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>>8330965
When will it stop? Literally everyone knew why this happened the moment they heard about it, yet no one is doing anything to stop it.

>>8332351
That sounds like a lovely idea, anon. I've thought about a gay bar in Bangkok (because there's not enough as it is lol)

>>8332333
We won't miss your left-wing sympathising kind here. Gave fun being lynched or shot in the US!

>His parents were literally rapefugges from Libya.

>>8331016
>>8331064
>>8331090
>>8331123
>>8331149
>>8331193
ITT: delusional idiots and optimists
>>8332380
Scroll up and see because clearly not everyone knew.

>>8332397
>wants to leave because of pakis
>is left wing

how the fuck am I left-wing you stupid cunt? Is this because 'you're a traitor if u leave the country hur dur" sort of LARP that most stormfags do? Because yeah, please, keep on doing someone as more people are killed. I don't see any mosques being blown up. Far right are absolute pussies, all talk and no bite.

>>8332674
your post might be how you're left wing

If Hitler hadn't happened, every single sand nigger intruder would be hanging from a lamppost by now. Too bad the only genocide we'll be seeing is white genocide.

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>>8332681
Because I mocked PJW? Everyone does

I admit I was wrong. ISIS took credit the shooter was "Muslim." It doesn't mean we have to fall for hateful and joyful islamaphobic propaganda that is no better than ISIS in terms of hate and violence. And yes, Islamaphobes are happy and smug when they hear a Muslim did it.

I'm tired and disgusted. Why people can be so horrible

>>8332762
>pointing out that it's suicidal to bring in hordes of Africans and Middle-Easterners is just as bad blowing up children
Is this satire? If it's not, you're not morally superior to anyone, libtard.

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>tfw stuck in this cucked fucking country

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>>8332932
Come to NI lad, we're still OK

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>>8330965
Just nuke this fucking country.

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>>8332898

Islamaphobes have definitely used violence to further their own ends, including 2 murders and vandalism/assault in the UK alone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobic_incidents

Be honest--didn't you hope the bomber was a Muslim? So you can keep pushing your propaganda? Doesn't this propaganda cost lives and livelihoods?

>>8332701
Hitler loved muslims you tard.

>>8332971
>2 murders
As opposed to 137 in Paris and 87 in Nice. Great argument. Keep defending your Muslim friends, cause on average, they will not defend you.

>>8332991

He said if Hitler HADN'T happened. Blaming Hitler for Muslims would be bad enough, but I think he is saying Hitler was the one who made genocide un-pc.

>>8332971
if the human race turned against all religions there would be a lot less bloodshed

as long as it exists, this vicious cycle is just going to go on and on

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>>8332971
Truth-telling about that religion, or "Islamophobia", is just, proper and the only hope you have of saving yourselves. Plainly, your immigrants and Muslims are killing your country and changing it into something radically different from what it has been in the past. I understand that you're too indoctrinated to see it at the moment, but it'll probably be plain t you in a few years when even people like you won't be able handle the cognitive dissonance.

>>8332971
>see
>i was able to find 5 violent people from these religions
>that means they're all the same!
Idiot.

>>8333064
Remove everyone who died more than 300 years ago and see how much smaller it gets. Hell, how about just 100?

>>8333064
*from each of these + fedoras

>>8333028
Yeah bs....considering there has been violent atheists (see >>8332971) including you that think all they need to do is just get everyone to "turn against all religions".

Oh wait, "as long as everyone agrees with me, there is no bloodshed"? Is that what you are saying.

>>8332998
Want to go global? Islamaphobes killed hundreds in Chad, Sri Lanka and Myanmar, 25 in Germany, 33 in Israel/Palestine, 153 in India, 77 in Norway.
Don't pretend that Islamaphobes are better people than ISIS just because you kill slightly less.

>>8333074

I deliberately chose people from a variety of places, conflicts, gender, nations and times so you can't say "it is just then" or "it was just them".
Stopping people of a single religion is stupid, hurts innocent people, and makes you violent yourself.
If you really really want to target the demographic responsible for most violence....stop VIOLENT people. Period. The killer isn't bad because he is a Muslim, he is bad for murdering people. Just like many Islamaphobes are bad not because they are atheist or Christian or Hindu, but because they are violent and bigoted.

>>8333043
People in third world shitholes have shit beliefs, what else is new? You can find plenty of people in the US who think the Ten Commandments should be the basis of our legal system.

>>8333091
no it'd never 'end'
you'd still get psychopaths hurting people obviously
I'm just saying if you factored out all the people hurt or killed in the name of whatever god they're trying to appease there'd be a lot less at least

>>8333043

Also Sharia just means "Muslim law" it doesn't necessarily mean anything bad. Muslim law has traditionally (not always) been very very tolerant.
Plus, notice MINORITIES of Muslims in many of those nations, including Europe, Central Asia, Lebanon, Tanzania, Chad and Guinea-Bissau. Also notice NONE at 100%. Not even one.

So why generalize?

>>8333133

The only way to wipe out religion is via violence. Asshole psychopathic "religion is the root of all evil" atheist have already tried to enforce atheism at the state level and it was not good and it did not stop violence.
You are being an extremist bigot. Waving a magic wand and making everyone atheist might stop some violence, but then so would waving a magic wand and making everyone a subject of ISIS. Either way, its not a good world.

>>8332674
Well, then go to spain with all the other brit ex-pats who don't like all the foreign people. I'm sure you'll be in good company with the other old white racists down there living on caravan sites like pikeys.

>>8333136
>Also Sharia just means "Muslim law" it doesn't necessarily mean anything bad
The implication of 'all other faiths and gay people should be put to death', according to the people who want it...

>>8331408
I may not agree with everything Katie Hopkins says but fucking props to her for this given that she lives in a country that's regressing to an impressive shithole where pointing out the obvious is "hate speech"

>>8333223

Not necessarily. Ottoman empire was very open to gay sex etc. and religious tolerance too. It varies from place to place and from culture to culture. There are different branches and philosophies within Islam same as any other religion or atheism.

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idfk anymore
I just want everything to go smoothly and people not to hurt each other or anything

>>8333320
And yet, the current people pushing for it are crying for just those things.

As for the 'other religions aren't militant' crap, look at the IRA. Militant christian terrorists.
Or, hell, the Soviet Union. Not only communist, but atheist to boot, and killed millions.

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>>8333333
Nice get

>>8333333
world peace when?

Does anyone think another attack is gonna happen or nah

Going to try and stay away from the city centre for a while just in case

>>8333320
The Ottoman's adopted a lot of the former Roman's legislation when they took Constantinople. It was just easier to work with the established system. Because of this most Muslims today see the Ottoman's as illegitimate Caliphs.

Also the religious tolerance was just because the majority of their population for a few centuries wasn't Muslim but Christian and it was very profitable to just have them pay the poll tax that people "of the book" had to pay.

>>8333476
The Provisional IRA wouldn't consider themselves to be a "Militant Christian" group, they have no iconography or dogma on what religion should be. Their goal is purely a fully unified Ireland and have no interest in who's in it

>>8333537
eh I guess

>>8333545
soon as I get superpowers love

>>8333582
hope not, everyone's going to be on high alert now though

>>8332971
Shit people doing shit things who happen to follow a particular religion =/= shit people doing shit things BECAUSE of of that religion

The reason Muslims commit terrorism is because their religion tells them to do so, the reason a lot of people in that image did what they did was because of some other goal(money/power) and their religious affiliation either didn't factor in or they used it as a cover and to gain support from fellow believers.

Its really not that hard to understand.

We op temperer now

WE /POL/ NOW

>>8333636

>The reason Muslims commit terrorism is because their religion tells them to do so

1) Most muslims are not terrorist
2) Muslim leaders have condemned terrorism
3) Mainstream Islam absolutely forbids murder, "death of one innocent is the same as if you murder the whole world". Yes, we can talk about death penalties etc. But that's not what we are discussing, we are discussing terrorism. If even a single innocent person dies in a terrorist attack it goes against Islam.
4) Terrorists are known to drink alcohol, sex outside marriage, etc. They aren't particularly devout.

>>8333091
You really don't want him to go global with the numbers on Islamic terrorism, it'd make your islamophobic attacks look like a few random murders

>>8333664
Mate if you were to go to ANY middle Eastern country and say you're gay, you'd be thrown off a building, how can people defend this shit seriously.. their way of life is absolute barbaric.

>They aren't particularly devout. Yeah that's why so many female muslims can just take off their headscarfs and have relationships outside their religion.

>>8333672

So once again, you are saying Islamaphobia is okay as long as its numbers are lower than ISIS? Is Nazism okay as long as their numbers are lower than Communists?

>>8333582
Nah, I don't think so, it's just hysteria.

Out of all the boards why are the LGBT boards defending Islam here?

it's one thing not accepting people for their sexual orientation, but wanting them killed for it..

>>8333599
The Byzantine Empire was neither tolerant of homosexuals or religious minorities, though.

Also, the only Christian parts of the Empire were the Balkans, parts of the Armenian highland and Lebanon, the rest including Anatolia were Muslim.

>>8333687

The 9/11 bombers were going to strip clubs and drinking alcohol etc. The Nice truck driver drank alcohol, ate pork, and never went to mosque. The Paris attacker drank alcohol, took cocaine, etc. The one female suicide bomber in France slept around, drank and never read Qur'an. Many terrorists aren't seen as being all that religious at all.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1358665/Seedy-secrets-of-hijackers-who-broke-Muslim-laws.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3691895/He-drank-alcohol-ate-pork-took-drugs-NOT-Muslim-Truck-terrorist-Mohamed-Lahouaiej-Bouhlel-s-cousin-reveals-unlikely-jihadist-beat-wife-NEVER-went-mosque.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/18/paris-terrorist-smoked-alarming-amount-of-cannabis_n_8589508.html

They aren't fueled by religious devotion. But by hate. The same thing that drives Islamaphobes.

>>8333711
Anatolia was almost entirely Christianized prior to 1071. After Manzikert, it was a slow conversion process to Islam and many coastal/interior regions of Anatolia continued to be Christian until modern times like the Pontic/Cappadocian Greeks.

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>>8333698

1) There are LGBT Muslims
2) Many LGBT people believe in liberalism and tolerance. If bigotry wins, we all lose.

>>8333711
I think with Byzantines it depended. Anal sex between men was treated badly, but other types was more acceptable or only seen as mildly bad.

Either way, gay people have always existed in every society.

>>8333664
>most Muslims aren't terrorists
But most terrorists are Muslim

>Muslim leaders have condemned terrorism
That's neat, get back to me when their religion does, ya know, in its texts.

>mainstream Islam forbids murder
And I'm sure you'd find that most homophobic Christians in America would condemn it too but that doesn't matter if their ideology breeds mindsets that it isn't murder because your victims aren't human or that its justifiable because its in pursuit of a worthy cause. I'm sure most people in countries that are bombing civilians would also condemn murder in Syria but bomb them anyways because the end goal is worthwhile.

>terrorists are religious hypocrites
So are plenty of other religious zealots, that doesn't mean their motivations aren't motivated by religion, just that they're good at justifying it to themselves

>>8333741
They're fueled by the meaninglessness post-modernism of Western society just like the spree shooters and Kaczynski/McVeigh/Breivik. The constant drone of "NOTHING LE MATTERS" in all areas at all times by all people is driving a subset of the world population mad and tending toward radical ideals so they can "fix the problem". Thus, violence becomes the only acceptable solution for them.

After all, if nothing le matters, why would lives matter too? All a high score does in this day and age is give your special snowflake ideas a broader readership and eternal infamy. Hate is far more headline-grabbing than love. It cuts through the endless drone of the spectacle far better than anything else Man can summon in this era.

>>8333764
You're rabid commies. There's nothing "liberal" about you.

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>>8333783

>But most terrorists are Muslim
Maybe I don't know. In Europe? Not even close. They are a tiny tiny minority.

http://www.counterfire.org/news/17599-graphic-islamist-terror-accounts-for-only-0-7-of-attacks-in-europe

>That's neat, get back to me when their religion does, ya know, in its texts.
This is a shallow view of religion. Religion =/= "texts". That said, Muslim leaders have condemned religion in writing too.

>And I'm sure you'd find that most homophobic Christians in America would condemn it too but that doesn't matter if their ideology breeds mindsets that it isn't murder because your victims aren't human
What are you talking about? If you disagree with a mindset, then disagree with the mindset. Don't start lumping people together as terrorists. No more than you would enjoy being lumped in with Jeffrey Dahmer or the worst of your religion/atheism.

>>8333897
Nice pie chart, now post one by deaths.

>>8333870

I am not a commie. I am pretty centrist. I believe in:

1) Freedom of speech and religion and the press.
2) Programs to help the poor, sick, elderly etc.

In my personal life I am downright conservative.

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>>8333218
>disliking muslims is same as disliking all foreign people

Silly little liberal, just because I dislike one group of people I must dislike them all? I have nothing against blacks, asians (the good kind, of course) or latinos.

Oh, this is an LGBT board, by the way, I'd remind you that Homosexuality is a sin in Islamic countries, punishable by death. But I guess that doesn't bother you in the slightest, because at least being killed by a muslim doesn't make you racist!

Go fucking kill yourself

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>>8333897
>ends at 2013
Nice, now lets see a graph of US Muslim terrorism that conveniently ends at 2000.
It also doesn't consider that the gravity of Islamist attacks is several orders of magnitude worse than the other attacks listed such as "left-wing", "separatist", "single-issue" etc. It's 'quality' over quantity.

And it's not just about terrorism. It's EVERYTHING about Islam and Muslims.

An actual surveyed majority of Muslims in Britain openly and publicly admit to wanting homosexuality to be made illegal. Not 'gay marriage'. Homosexuality itself. *MOST* Muslims here in *Britain* (not just in Afghanistan or some far-away shithole) want LGBT people to be locked away behind bars, stuck in prison forever because of their sexual orientation. That's the relevant statistic for this board, isn't it? That's what Muslims think. Not terrorists. So-called "moderate" Muslims, those who live and maybe were even born in western countries.

With Muslims, we in Europe now have acid attacks, near constant terrorism, Muslim gangs, Muslim rape gangs (Rotherham), beheadings of soldiers in the street in broad daylight (Lee Rigby), mass-shootings, a pro-terror fifth column, mass-molestation and the Muslim phenomenon of taharrush (Cologne/Dusseldorf), female genital mutilation, trucks being driven into public areas, widespread animal cruelty as well as the cruel practice of halal, drug dealing, artists/cartoonists/politicians fearing for their lives, rampant inbreeding, sharia courts and sharia-controlled zones, tribal voting and electoral fraud.

That doesn't even include all of the generic crime that Muslims commit at a hugely disproportionate level. France's prisons are, somehow, overwhelmingly Muslim.

The fact is this - Muslims do not belong in Europe AND they are Europe's least civilised residents, and that's why Muslims are the issue and not say, Sikhs. Muslims can and should be removed.
Yanks often do not understand the situation.

>DUDE THEY'RE NOT ALL TERRORISTS THO

Fans of gay pop music got exactly what they deserved. :^)

>>8333599
>The Provisional IRA wouldn't consider themselves to be a "Militant Christian" group, they have no iconography or dogma on what religion should be. Their goal is purely a fully unified Ireland and have no interest in who's in it
Still lead by the bomb-planting assholes, aren't they?
They tried to kill my mother. They DID manage to kill one of my grandfather's friends. I have a chair he made that I keep my work gear on.

>>8334229

1) I don't know about that survey but it sounds like a belief that can be changed, a belief that is not threatening unless Muslim become the majority, and not true of all Muslims. Some Muslims are LGBTQ themseles.
2) How does removing Muslims make you any better? You are complaining they want you "behind bars" and yet you are talking about genocide? Really?

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>>8334467
>talking about genocide
Repatriating Muslims from Europe isn't genocide. Immigration is a two-way process, Europe's borders were opened up by unrepresentative, myopic, left-learning cosmopolitan governments. Europe's nations and demographics have been flooded by Muslims, people who have no connection to Europe (ethnically, culturally, socially) beyond having ancestors who waged brutal wars with Europe for hundreds of years. These people do not belong in Europe, only recently mass-migrated to modern Europe, are making hell for Europeans while contributing absolutely nothing positive, and should be removed from Europe back to wherever their nation of origin is. It's mostly Pakistan.

Muslims have been fought out of Europe in the past, recent reckless governments allowed them back in without a democratic mandate to do so, and now they need to be removed again. It doesn't have to be genocidal or even violent, they just have to leave the way they came. To give some context, think of it more like an expulsion of the Jewry rather than like the Holocaust.

I don't even want us to be militarily involved in Muslim countries, I plainly just want them to stay out of the civilised European western world. That would be better for everybody. There are about 3-4 million Muslims in Britain, in comparison, there are upwards of 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

Repatriation of Muslims is morally and logistically sound, and it's a hell of a lot more straightforward and reasonable than your suggestion of trying to convert all of the Muslims in Europe into being non-Islamic progressives.
They both might not happen, but one of them is definitely never going to happen.

>>8333783
>>8334090
>>8334229
>>8334542
I want /pol/ to leave. /lgbt/ is a board of love, not hate.

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>>8334571
I can't tell if this is a joke, but sorry m8, I'm biscum.

>>8334581
You can't be both a racist and a part of our community. You need to choose.

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>>8334599
I choose racism

>>8334090
>>8334229
>implying your ultimate goal isn't to eliminate all non-whites
I'm brown and not Muslim and really if you kick them out it's only a matter of time before you move on to some other group.

>>8334542
Yeah, all the Muslim immigration totally happened under dictatorships.

Do you even hear yourself?

>>8334611
what kind of brown are you?

>>8334611
>Muslims have effectively invaded Europe and are fucking our shit up regularly and on a massive scale
>We're not allowed to get rid of them because the obvious logical next step to that would be murdering every brown person on the planet, obviously, because some Germans once tried to kill some Jews back in the 1940's.
Stay out of Europe in large numbers, that's all I'm asking. I have no particular interest in you brown people, let alone some secretive bloodthirsty obsession with you.

>>8334623
>unrepresentative, myopic, left-leaning cosmopolitan governments
>dictatorships
Must be fun trying to understand politics and history through the lens of a low-IQ retard who can barely grasp things even when they're reduced to the binary of left vs right.

>>8334599
You can't be both an Islamophile and pro-LGBT. Which do you chose?

>>8334665
They know very well you didn't say dictatorship. They are deliberately strawmanning.

>>8334229
>the yanks
Why blame us in America? We voted trump in, you guys missed your chance to vote la pen and wilders, so really you should be looking at your fellow islamophile Europeans.

>>8334542
>It doesn't have to be genocidal or even violent, they just have to leave the way they came.
And if they don't want to? How are you going to get them out without violence?

>Repatriation of Muslims is morally and logistically sound, and it's a hell of a lot more straightforward and reasonable than your suggestion of trying to convert all of the Muslims in Europe into being non-Islamic progressives.
Seeing as Muslims in Europe are already much more liberal than Muslims in the Middle East and Asia, yes, intergration of Muslims seems possible.

>>8336234
>Seeing as Muslims in Europe are already much more liberal
Yeah, they blow up concerts instead of bazaars. That's some real liberalism at work.

>>8336253

Less than 1% of Muslims do that. You are far far more likely to die of a car crash than a terrorist attack. Why don't you try to ban cars out of Europe?

>>8336258
I need cars to move around. Europe doesn't gain shit by letting in more muslims.

>>8336234
For fucks sake dude. Turkey abandons democracy as we speak. Iran used to be a western country few decades ago. Muslims aren't progressing, they are going back in motherfucking time.

>>8336234
>seeing as how diluted bleach is already much safer to drink that pure bleach, yes, drinking some seems possible.

>>8336260

Europe is dying and below replacement level isn't it? If you want to shut yourselves off and stagnate? Fine. Go ahead and vote for that I don't think most of Europe would agree with you.

But you are talking about genociding Muslims. People who are already there. Maybe children of immigrants or grandchildren of immigrants. Maybe converts with roots stretching back centuries. That's garbage.

>>8336263

1) "Progress" is not linear. It doesn't go along with time. Its completely arbitrary. They aren't "going back in time". They are going forward in time with different goals in mind. This could change in the future. Anything can.
2) They didn't say "progress" they said "integration". They aren't talking about Iran or Turkey, but about Europe and Muslims in Europe. People are shaped by their culture.

>>8336263
Randomly deposing leaders, destroying infrastructure, and then refusing to help rebuild didn't help, but Iran is the fucking problem. It got taken over by fundamentalists, and we did nothing.
Iraq started funding terrorists and we did nothing.
Israel was attacked by terrorists, and we condemned them for defending themselves.
Israel went to war on terrorist states, and got embargoed for it.
America is heading for fundamentalism, and we are doing nothing.

>>8336279
>seeing as how diluted bleach is already much safer to drink that pure bleach, yes, diluting it into safety seems possible.

>>8336287
>Europe is dying and below replacement level isn't it?
How the fuck is that an issue? Holy shit, we will have less people in Europe. It's almost like it was few decades ago. Oh, the humanity. How would we be able to live with less crowded cities and cheaper housing? Will someone think about the pentioners?

>>8336629
b-but muh economy mufugga! I need that infinite growth so I can make more shekels!

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>>8336287
The fact that we're below replacement level is WHY we shouldn't be importing Muslims, you stupid cunt. It's literally in the name. We're getting demographically replaced by the Muslims that we're importing.
It's going to make Europe an extension of the Middle East, the Muslims here aren't going to magically become Europeans when they cross that border. They're ethnically foreign, socially alienated, and culturally incompatible with actual Europeans.

>OH NO EUROPE IS AGEING. EUROPE NEEDS MUSLIMS
You fucking WHAT? I'd infinitely prefer for Europe be made a bit smaller and have a slightly older average population for a little bit until age demographics balance themselves out than literally replacing Europeans with Muslims in order to keep that population number of geographic "Europe" the same for no real reason beyond a reductive, short-sighted economic reasoning for it. Our population is below the replacement rate because of economic factors. Our economies and social attitudes, for better or for worse, do not call for the population that we have. That's not really a problem, the problem is a below replacement level indigenous birth rate combined with mass-immigration and above replacement level non-indigenous birth rates, which is the thing you're idiotically advocating for us.

>If you want to shut yourselves off and stagnate? Fine. Go ahead
Seriously you are so stupid. Not allowing Europeans to be replaced by Muslims isn't stagnation, it's self-preservation. River water isn't stagnant just because it hasn't been artificially altered, and it doesn't get enriched when you piss in it.
We're not improved by the importation of Muslims and you know it. We're disadvantaged, slaughtered, economically hindered, culturally suppressed, and demographically replaced.
Resisting demonstrably bad things isn't "stagnation". It's fundamental common sense, stop telling us your infantile brainwashed liberal American opinions on things which you know absolutely nothing about.

>>8334599
>our community

you don't deserve to be in our community if you favour fag killers over actual fags

>>8334599
why are you so set on supporting the people that want to kill us?

I WILL NOT LET YOU DIE BRIT

doing a poo

got phimosis lads

>>8336993
Holy shit, we got ourselves a based anon here.

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ennit hot?

>>8340588
Sexy.

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>>8341365
yeah

>>8341365
it's nice though, I want to get a tan

>>8341620
I got fucking sunburned. It's shit.

We need a UKLGBT discord /cuddle thread

>>8341671
this, some of us just spontaneously combust :(

>>8341712
I cycled 40 miles in the sun yesterday. It wasn't spontaneous. I just forgot that sunburn was a thing.

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Daily reminder not to let are Jezza down.

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>>8342348
Daily reminder that Jeremy Clarkson is the original and best Jezza.
And not a communist.

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>>8332960

>we may not be able or willing to remove known radical islamists from our own country but we will jail you if you dare to criticize Islam

Most Europeans are really sleepwalking into their own demise. I really wish I had a background in psychology because it must be fascinating to be able to truly understand how something like this can happen to an entire civilization.

>>8342529
please help us

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>>8342545

There's no outside force that can save Europe. It's demise has started in the minds of its people and it can only be fixed there.

Western civilization in its entirety is in a deep spiritual crisis. We've abandoned religion, we've abandoned tradition and we're in the process of dissolving the ethnic bonds that tied us together and can be traced back for generations.

People don't want to have children anymore, because they don't see any point in it. We've become so individualized that making the sacrifices that come with creating children seem foolish to people. They'd much rather live 'for the moment' than take a part in reproducing not just themselves but their entire culture in the process.

And that's where we are now. A childless, lifeless, stagnant society living off the glory of its past; disconnected from its roots and with no vision for the future.

Your replacements are flooding in right now, and in two or three generations they'll deliver the long-overdue coup de grâce to a languishing civilization.

>>8342639
>the ethnic bonds that tied us together and can be traced back for generations.
I'm sorry but that's just idiotic. Literally nothing but continuous wars for thousands of years, some still going on today in the heart of Europe.

>>8342639
>People don't want to have children anymore, because they don't see any point in it. We've become so individualized that making the sacrifices that come with creating children seem foolish to people.
In 20 years, you will be competing with your child for jobs and housing.
In 40 years, you will be competing with your grandchildren for jobs and housing.
Fuck having kids/

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>>8342655
>DUDE IF WE FLOOD EUROPE WITH BROWN PEOPLE AND ABOLISH DISTINCT ETHNICITIES THEN WAR WON'T BE A THING ANYMORE

Don't have children, there should really be laws stopping people as stupid as you from breeding.

>>8334229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8tFH5yIvsQ

where do i get a Hon gf in the UK?

>>8343431
Reading.
90% of the female population doesn't pass for female.

>>8342639
>It's demise has started in the minds of its people and it can only be fixed there.
but how

>>8343549
>Reading
i live in Manchester :/

>>8343281
I didn't say I wanted that, but to pretend that Europe is some rosey utopia where nothing bad ever happened is not good.
And I think you've forgotten that this is 'gaygen', unlikely to have children sweaty x

>>8345304
That's about as bad, desu. The accent isn't as grating and you're less likely to be randomly stabbed or beaten, though.

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If you think there's a problem with this country, make Jeremy Corbyn prime minister. Corbyn is legit, pro-lgbt and knows how to fix shit up

>>8345977
im gonna be voting for him desu, i've actually met him

>>8345977
Happy Birthday Mr Corbyn!
We can do this!

Any gays who vote Lib Dem need to get their heads sorted out.

>>8345977
Fuck off.
>>8345980
>>8345981
Samefags can fuck off too.

Want to be blown up, thrown off buildings, starved to death, or have all your stuff taken into 'collective ownership'? Vote Labour.

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Oh I was in gaygen about this already. Anyone at Birmingham Pride over Saturday or Sunday. I'll be down on both days. I'm not expecting to get culturally enriched, but it does make it a little bit more exciting I must admit.

>>8346019
No muslims.

>>8346004
>>>/pol/
and stay there

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>>8346043
>you're not allowed to be gay or bi if you're not a leftist
Maybe that's why the "LGBT community" is widely seen as an attention-whorey AIDS-ridden subversive freakshow as opposed to a reasonable collective of decent LGBT people fighting for fundamental LGBT interests against the most imminent threats to gay people in the West - those threats being Muslims, Islam, and mass-immigration.

>>>/tumblr/
And stay there.

Oh, and Corbyn's going to lose. It's not even a question outside of "how badly is Corbyn going to lose?".

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>>8346043
>>>/tumblr/ And take your communism with you.

recently got a green candidate where i live, so i'm leaning that way...

I was thinking of going to gay pride in birmingham but I found out it's £30 entry just for the one day entry just for the one day and do I get anything from it

>>8346215
>votes brexit
gets muh freedums back
>votes may
i dont need muh freedums haha

literally an IQ of 5. you inbreds need to be gassed.

>>8346268
Oh I'm not paying to get into any of that rubbish, see the parade and ride around a bit. I own the only (working) rickshaw in birmingham.

>>8346215
>>8346235
most likely a pathetic bunch of NEETs too.

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>>8346268
>>8346302
That should be I want to see the parade and ride around a bit*

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>>8346298
>>8346303
The only real options are May and Corbyn, and May is the preferable choice to anybody who has a non-hydrocephalitic brain, and that's why she's going to win this election. Blair was a cunt, but at least he was an electable cunt.

You're not even really saying anything, you're just inarticulately mad.
>FUCKIN PATHETIC INBRED DUMB NEETS WHY WON'T U VOTE LABOUR REEEEEEEE

>>8346316
>You're not even really saying anything, you're just inarticulately mad.
What did you expect from someone who thinks voting Lab is a smart move?

>>8346249
Why the hell?

>>8346520
Because glorious communism.

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>>8346316
>>8346380
Dude, like, free stuff tho
Tolerance and putting people before profits and stuff
Socialism dude it's so cool

>>8347198
But he was on Andrew Neil tonight and said he never met the IRA.

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>>8346316
dude dementia tax lmao
dude fox hunting lmao
dude education cut lmao
dude police cuts lmao
dude increased immigration lmao
dude disability cuts lmao
dude lack of housing lmao

WHAT, FREE SCHOOL MEALS? FUCKING COMMIE

>>8347797
Literally all but two of those things are good.

>>8346520
NHS stuff mostly.

>>8348678
The same NHS as >>8346416 >>8346451

>>8348702
Ideally with more funding they won't fuck up as bad, but yeah, same NHS. I'm not HRT anyways, but i need cheap meds for a different thing

>>8348707
>Ideally with more funding they won't fuck up as bad
Explain your thought process here.

>>8348733
research funding, better doctors, etc etc

>>8348747
If the NHS gets any given amount of extra funding, what percentage would you guess would go to research and doctors for trans issues? Just a rough guess at the ballpark.

>>8348759
what's this got to do with trans people?

>>8348759
I don't know which things get different amounts of money at the NHS, but I can't see why the % for each thing would go down if they got more money.

>>8348779
Nobody said anything about going down.

You said you think more funding would ideally mean better trans care. So it's reasonable to ask how much more funding for what kind of improvement.

It sounds to me like you'd happily throw billions into it while having no idea if that means so much as one single extra research project or better-paid doctor for trans issues, yet still defend that with your blanket wishful "more funding means better, I hope" logic.

>>8348787
>mean better trans care
I didn't say anything about trans people, except that I'm not HRT

>>8348790
You read >>8348747 correct?

And you replied "Ideally with more funding they won't fuck up as bad" correct?

And now this is nothing to do with trans people suddenly?

>>8348798
I pretty clearly stated it was for a different thing. You know doctors do things other than working with trans people, right?

>>8348807
My questions were all about trans care. Stop being so dishonest by deliberately avoiding the topic.

>>8348822
I don't give a shit about your questions, faggot. You asked why I'd vote green, I fucking told you. Go be autistic somewhere else.

>>8348825
My first question to you was if you were voting to toss money down the drain to reward screwing over trans people and your reply was more money would mean better care. Which was obviously a lie.

>>8348846
your first question was why vote green, no mention of trans people.

>>8348825
It's weird to see a self-professed Green party voter call someone a "faggot" and "autistic".

Aren’t you lot meant to be.... soft and pc?

>>8348868
Good argument.

I don't give a shit about soft/pc, I live in a strongly conservative area and I'm tired of getting fucked over by them, so I'm voting voting as left as possible to take a vote from them...

DESU the green candidate where I live is a bit of a cunt, but has no chance of winning anyway

>>8348847
That is entirely ignoring the point and wasn't me anyway.

>>8348896
I didn't say anyone was anyone. I don't know how many people I'm talking to and I don't care, my point remains that you(someone?) seems to think I should be voting green for the good of trans people, and that everything on this board must be about trans people.

>>8348881
>voting for a cunt so she never has to think of changing if she wants votes

>>8348921
yeah that's pretty much my reasoning...

>>8348881
>Good argument
I wasn't making an argument, just an observation.

It's weird to see somebody with your mindset and apparent social values vote for a party like the Green party.

Were there actually any lgbt victims?

>>8350576
that one guy Martyn Hett was I think
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40012738

>>8350635
Funny enough, he actually deserved to die.

>>8350635
>He also had just been saying goodbye to his boyfriend before he set off on his dream tour of the United States, due to last two months.
homo confirmed?

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>>8350576

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>>8350635
>>8350648
>>8350679

His Twitter is full of anti-white, anti-British, anti-Brexit, pro-immigration, pro-multiculturalism, pro-Muslim bullshit.

He spent his life shilling for Muslims and about how they're not responsible or to blame for Islamic terrorism, and then he got nail bombed right in his smug face by a Muslim terrorist.

There's an iota of poetic justice to all of this, and it's that.

>>8350687
>celebrating someones death because they don't believe in you fascist ideology

back to >>>/pol/, reactionary filth

>>8350679
>>8350687
I guess really nothing of value was lost then that fateful day.

Oh wait, property damage.

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>>8350714
Someone died because of the reality of their political beliefs.

It's a nice change from exclusively innocent people dying from the reality of his beliefs.

People are going to keep dying throughout Europe because of the reality of his beliefs, it's right to take comfort in the fact that he doesn't get to live his life free from the consequences of his own selfish, myopic, destructive, mentally ill retard ideology.

Go back to Tumblr, leftist filth. You're on the wrong website. This is literally 4chan.

Do you want me to cry that the person who shilled for Muslims got killed by a Muslim?
Fuck no. It makes me happy that justice is served.

Go join him.

>>8350723
>Oh wait, property damage.
kek

>>8350687
Screencaps of the best/worst tweets?

>>8350743
>it's right to take comfort in the fact that he doesn't get to live his life free from the consequences of his own selfish, myopic, destructive, mentally ill retard ideology.
Let's also remember than if it wasn't him it could have been someone else, someone innocent and who didn't want to die. We should be glad it wasn't.

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>>8350764

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>Don't worry Anon, if you vote for me Terrorism will end forever!

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>ARE YOU AWARE THAT MARTYN HETT WOULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT IMMIGRATION?

And now Martyn Hett does not exist because of immigration.

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>>8350805
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/arms-sales-saudi-arabia-theresa-may-staunch-defence-keep-people-streets-britain-safe-a7230836.html

true desu

>>8350805
I thought it was a vote for Remain that stopped terrorism? >>8331342

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He wouldn't blow Muslims, so a Muslim blew him up :'(

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>>8350837
So much for being propositioned being sexist against women then!

>>8350864
>My mum is a (muslim) Turkish immigrant.
discarded.

I guess I'll only light a candle now in solidarity with broken windows and material damage.

reminder, that interventionist and imperialistic policy in the middle east has allowed ISIS to flourish and spread their saudi backed ideology, while giving them a modus operandi to destroy the civilized world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tuQOOzPfxo

vote labour 8/6/17

Just broke my fast. feelsgoodman

>>8350924
>The blame is with the terrorists, but…
t. Jeremy Corbyn

>>8350993
us and uk intervention has propagated the problem?

>>8350998
actually, letting these people in propagated the problem.

>>8351017
wew lad, the only reason they are coming in is because us and uk intervention has destabilized their countries allowing ISIS to gain a foothold and war to break out in their country.

they are not going to stop flooding into europe until you retarded reactionaries and neolibs realize this problem and stop interfering in the middle east and stop funding the saudi terrorists who are spreading the ideology that fuels ISIS.

>>8351055
>the only reason they are coming in is because us and uk intervention
No, the only reason they are coming in is because self-destructive people like you let them in.

Closing the European border and saying NEIN to rapefugees would have saved us a ot of trouble.
But you had to do the whole Coudenhove-Kalergi thing and now Europe is overrun with violent and barbaric savages.

And for what?

>>8351086
>No, the only reason they are coming in is because self-destructive people like you let them in.

why do you think they are coming in the first place?
who is responsible for the wars in their countries?

this has been going on long before the migrant crisis and before the ""war"" on ""terror"" in iraq

>>8351055
wew lad, the only reason they are coming in is because we held open the door and the EU didn't let us deport them.

>>8351111
They are coming here because free gibsmedats and Miele washing machines that the EU promised them.

>>8351119
>>8351136
that isn't the cause of the problem. it's a symptom.

they are going to keep coming in and demanding asylum, until neocon and neolib leaders stop:

a: meddling in middle eastern politics and overthrowing the dictators who run those countries

b: funding and doing deals with the saudi islamo-fascists that are spreading wahhabism like a cancer throughout the globe

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>>8330965
Cry moar, little bitches!

You fuckers deserved it. Go back to masturbating at pictures of Yemenis dying in a ridiculously protracted manner from their country being pummelled to smithereens by YOUR eagerly sold EUROFIGHTERS!

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>>8350924
Labour is the party that opened Britain's borders up to the third-world. Twice. Mass-immigration has been deliberate Labour policy on two different occasions in the last 65~ years, the Conservatives have simply inherited it. Jeremy Corbyn is expressly anti-border and pro-immigration, Theresa May is just someone who's been rather inactive on the issue. May is also liable to change her positioning on immigration, Corbyn and Labour never ever will and his supporters really don't want him to.

Labour is also the party that truly started "interventionist and imperialistic policy in the middle east".

You're asking people to vote for Labour to ineffectively address the issues that Labour is entirely and deliberately responsible for.

>>8351162
You do realise that they are ALWAYS going to be coming, right?
We live in a significantly nicer country than they do. They will always want to immigrate here, regardless of muh interventionism. The thing is, it's up to us to let them in, and they're only coming in because Labour wanted them to come and set the precedent for demographic-changing mass-immigration.

We can simply stop allowing people to immigrate here, but that's totally against the Labour mindset. Labour does not want to stop immigration, Labour loves immigration. Immigration is a guaranteed infinite supply of poor, non-white, left-wing voters, and being against immigration (according to the Labour mindset) is racist. Being against the Islamification of Europe, and being against the ethnic marginalisation of British people (ethnic Brits are a minority in London now), is rayciss. Labour will never ever want to stop immigration, and never ever will.

Immigration won't stop if we stop bombing their countries, it'll stop if we stop giving them citizenship. And Labour does not want to do that. Labour wants to make anybody a British citizen should they wish to become one.

If you're going to shill for Labour, at least have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

>>8351162
I agree that the West's foreign policy towards the Middle East is wrong. We didn't treat Germany this way and now they are a NATO ally.

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>>8351416
>pic related

blair is a war criminal btw

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>>8351451
Literally everything stated there is a well-known and completely open fact.

I honestly don't even know what part of that is meant to be 'tinfoil'. I'm just going to assume that you don't have a response.

You know you're wrong, your basis for trying to convince people to vote for Labour is pathetically weak, and you cave under the first sign of pressure. If all you've got is DUMB CONSPIRACY THEORY LOL then no wonder Labour is going to lose this election.
If this is the intellectual calibre of the party, it's no wonder you lot are so fucked. You're all in so much denial in so many ways.

Maybe you'd convince more people to join your side if you weren't such an unintelligent disingenuous cunt.

Try intellectual honesty sometime. Or failing that, bleach.

>>8351451
This is textbook "I can't prove you wrong so here's a wacky image making fun of you instead".

>>8351086
>close our borders, we don't want savages
>proceed to bomb schools, hospitals, mosuqes and then give money to terrorists to rape and murder innocents

Who's the barbarians?

>>8352262
The sand people.

>>8352266
I think we both know who is in the wrong mr.neocon

I'm not saying they're angels, but they're not brainless savages, there's a reason for everything that happens.

>>8351504
'imperialism is good, killing the irish is good, destroying their culture is good, colonizing ireland was good, reminding them of it yearly is good'
*british clapping*
*Irish bomb Britain*
'oh my god this is so unfair those subhuman Paddies are so racist im sad

>>8352270
Let's see, we have a western democracy with rights and social progress.

Against sexist, homophobic, tribe people who could literally be living a millennium ago if they hadn't been given suits and guns.

>>8352273
>Corbynistas actually believe this
Take note, anyone still unsure how to vote but against terrorism.

>>8352277
>this is a just reason to invade a sovereign nation who hasn't attacked you.

I hope you're just doing this for le memes xd and you don't actually believe that nonsense.

>>8352284
im irish you fucking geebag. voting tory is voting pro-terror which in interesting stance to take. voting labour is voting anti-imperialism (brit shits should learn this and maybe get your snaggle tooth out of scotland you mediocre gobshites) and trying to be an imperial power is like drawing a huge target on your back saying 'im a cunt please attack me, i am a bully'

the IRA won, dude, they forced a peace process and a soft border, if it weren't for them, there would still be checkpoints and Lord Tebbit's wife would still be walking. i mean don't be a complete monster you prick

>>8352284
>may
>2 terror attacks in 2 months
ill take my chances with Corbyn Ty

>>8352305
There should have been a population transfer to end the conflict.

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>>8333688
Shut your whore mouth. Hitler did nothing wrong!!!

>>8352384
Funny thing is I could report you for that comment, since saying that in the uk under this Govt. is hate speech.

>>8333688
>>8352384
Calm down. Islam, Communism and Nazism, like every other such ideology, should be annihilated by any government that wishes to protect its people.

>>8352403
Islam isn't an ideology, only a specific branch of it is. And the branch that controls Mecca atm is wahabism, which is an idoelogy. Shia'ism, Sufism and mutazilim are not bad desu. Not great, but not bad.

>>8334599
Fuck that, i'm a faggot and i fucking hate muslims. They contribute nothing worthwile to any country that emigrate to here in Europe. They are a drain on our health services, benefits and lord know what else they manage to get into.
They sure know how to fill our prisons but that's about it.

>>8332960
>big brother is watching you

>>8352418
Be honest, it's a hatred of brown people/MENA. Not just Muslims right?

>>8352417
>Shia'ism
>not bad desu
Have you heard of a country called Iran?

>>8352424
>MENA
That includes Israel, so no.

>>8352475
Iran isn't as bad as it's made out to be, it's not a utopia, sure, but it's not Saudi Arabia. Iran doesn't do terror attacks or finance terrorism in Europe.

>>8352490
Excluding Israel

>>8352510
>Excluding Israel
Israel counts as Europe then?

Asking because
>Iran doesn't do terror attacks or finance terrorism in Europe.

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>>8352548
Israel counts as 'Murica!!!

>>8352424
Not him - I dislike Muslims like any rational honest person should (the moderate Muslim meme is a joke, most Muslims are rabidly homophobic, inbred, unnecessarily violent, and generally have brutal values rooted in desert superstition - 'muh religion' isn't a respectable fallback) , but I don't 'dislike' brown people, I simply think they shouldn't be in Europe in large numbers. In a universalisable way that is, I don't particularly think white people should be in Africa in large numbers either.
I think a respect for national sovereignty, national homogeneity, and national self-determination is important for all peoples regardless of their skin colour.

I'm also not in favour of bombing their countries. Bombing them and then allowing them to mass-migrate here is probably the worst combination of domestic and foreign policy thinkable.
We should just leave them alone, and keep them at a reasonable distance. Everybody benefits from this decent arrangement apart from warhungry neocons, 'diversity' obsessed liberals, and psychotic subversives who blindly seek the death of nations.

>>8352392
I'm not in the uk silly goose.

>>8352564
This was reasonable but someone will find a way to be offended and cry that you're an evil nazi or some shit

>>8352548
Yeah Iran doesn't finance terror in Israel. They do openly finance hezbollah, but they have never done an attack on civilians to the best of my knowledge.

Meanwhile the UK and the US are responsible for the Iraq war. 500,000 people died in that war, 500,000 civilians, innocent people that just wanted to live their lives in Iraq.

>>8352564
Agreed to an extent, I believe in migration, but not mass migration.

>>8352668
>The UK
Tony Blair did not have a democratic mandate for most of the things that he did. Blaming British people for his actions is silly and reductive.

>>8352725
Yet he got re-elected!

>>8352731
Arguably the consequences of his ideology were not immediately clear to the public. He was extremely duplicitous.

Besides, if you insist on blaming the people who voted for him, blame Labour voters, not British people in general.

>>8352725
I'm surprised he was re-elected and not put into jail. Murdering half a million civilians over oil isn't exactly ethical.

And it's always so surprising that people from there dislike the west.
22 people in Manchester got /pol/ up riled up, but what of the 500,000 in Iraq? Not a peep. The Internet has become the mouthpiece of the establishment, and what I find sad is people actually go along with the media narratives.

>>8352749
The trick with democracy is that its results represent the joint decision of everyone. That's why three quarters of people support Brexit.

>>8352756
Our unwanted, unrepresentative leaders murdering foreign people far away is less outrageous that our unwanted, unrepresentative leaders being responsible for our own people, young children, little girls, being publicly slaughtered by the immigrants that we didn't want in the first place.

I'd say that most people now want Tony Blair dead or in jail. The only faction that still supports him nowadays are the arch Remainers.

>>8352780
>Our unwanted, unrepresentative leaders
Because elections don't count. I bet you think Trump wasn't fairly elected either.

>I'd say that most people now want Tony Blair dead or in jail.
Go have a referendum on it.

>>8352786
>I bet you think Trump wasn't fairly elected either.
No? I hugely supported Trump over Hillary
>Go have a referendum on it.
I'd love nothing more.

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>>8352795
I asked about fairness and you replied with who you supported. Revealing.

>>8352804
Yes, to demonstrate that I inherently must think that he was elected fairly, having supported him myself. If I didn't think he was elected fairly, I wouldn't support him. It would be wrong, unsatisfying, and disingenuous to do so.
There's hardly a conflict of interest there.

The only thing "revealed" is who I supported. Hardly some dark revelation considering it was essentially a binary choice.

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>>8334599
Not him but yes I can, I live in a third world country, I'm white, I get targeted by niggers BECAUSE I'm white, the shitholes of my country are STILL are made of black people, they STILL act like animals, they have no excuse because they aren't even the minority, they successfully brought down my country by demanding social welfare and not working, they are absolutely retarded and I have to live with this scum every single day.

I AM RACIST BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE MADE ME RACIST, AND I AM GAY NOW
FUCK
OFF
ISLAM IS NOT A RACE
AND YOUR TYPE IS RUINING THE ONLY CHANCE I HAVE OF LIVING A PEACEFUL LIFE
CONSIDER KILLING YOURSELF IN THE WORST MOST PAINFUL WAY POSSIBLE

>>8353377
>Islam is not a race

But anon you just don't like brown people, just admit it, admit you're a racist and move on.

>>8353384
I admitted you retarded motherfucker, but Islam is not a race, it's an ideology for the stupid that teaches violence. Either way that stupid fuck is wrong.

>>8353377
>t. RSA

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>>8348798
haha

>>8353387
How did the Zanj make you racist? Did one of them give you a 12 inch dicking and tear your arsehole or something?

>>8353389
Yes I live somewhere like South Africa, I have to deal with at least one shooting per week, normally more, yes I've seen cars being burned on my street, yes I know how is the sound of a grenade or a bomb, and I know how it is to not know if someone you care about is going to come back home alive whenever they have to go out.

>>8353405
No, they force me to hear to public orgies where even kids fuck each other almost every night for 4 years in addition to everything I already listed.

>>8353412
I don't understand, why hate brown people then? What did they do? You're describing blacks

>>8352780
Bullshit, you elected those fucks, it's not the same as puck limeys here weaseling around in the shadows to fuck this continent up for everyone, and bringing in fucking pajeets to maintain a strong contingent of proud commonwealth people. You murderers would be well served if there were many attacks on anglican churches, and I'm talking proper attacks like they had in france, not that dainty little knife shit that you had to grasp for for the news story before this one.

>>8353422
I hate everyone that's dumb enough to do the same shit they do, and I hate people who are disconnected with reality to the point of defending niggers even more. That being said the original guy I replied to equaled a logical aversion to Islam to racism, as if either of those were negative things.

>>8353422
They dive through a master playbook for driving you up the wall! They clutch whatever company they're associated with for all the gratification they can milk from it, and persecute you for not being as tight with the company as they love being, and they get liberal fucks rallying behind them for this shit. And they just incessantly nag everyone around them for more opportunities to milk society for whatever. And they just plain expect to be your buddies - and not only do they do something so vile, but with that they set the wheels in motion to have every lovemongering fuck in the vicinity be out to lynch you for desecrating the buddy paradigm that they "work so hard to build up".

>>8353436
Brown people typically don't do that stuff, they're like white people, only known for being a little, cunning I suppose. They're like Jews in that regard. Basically nigger versions of Jews.
You don't hate Jews do you?

>>8353442
As a brown person, I don't know what you mean anon, I've never milked society, only did my best to contribute to it. I create jobs, not take them away, I own a small business and employ a work force of 8 people.

>>8353422
>>8353453
Btw I wasn't the one that brought "brown people" into this, I was like you said describing niggers because that other faggot cited racism, some types of brown people are smart enough to not be into that category.

Which reminds me, allowing Islam to enter europe ALSO removes one of the few possibilities of escape for many people that were born into this vile culture and have been trying to escape their whole life.

I do not hate jews, the problem with them is that they tend to be smart, but many don't have what I consider good morals, so they use that "tool" they have to deceive and and use other people as tools.

>>8353462
Exactly, so typical for a poo, styling oneself like that, being above all else hellbent on shoving at others, exploiting all the disgusting supports, while being determined to vilify and destroy anyone who is "less social" and capable of doing anything where you don't have someone patting you on the back every couple of minutes.

>>8353477
If he doesn't steal, takes a shower every day, follow the laws and fights to keep what's the corruption of society at bay he's fine, worry about the ones wanting to destroy your country fuckhead.

>>8353477
I don't vilify anyone dude, I hired people who were NEETs, not some college grads or experienced people.
Also I'm
Not a pajeet, I'm Zoroastrian Iranian.

>>8353468
I agree with you. I fled persecution in Iran, only to be surrounded by my oppressors here, there is no escape, so I accepted my fate and learned to work with them.

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>>8353490
Awww, so typical, daddyarthur always swooping in to coddle pajeet! That's exactly what I hate so fucking much, you deserve torturous death.

PS. Pajeet-of-peace says thanks for the teenage fuckmeat offerings!

>>8353500
Bullshit if you are into europe somehow, work your way into a less islamic country and use the fact that you came from a muslim shithole to change some minds, maybe you won't save europe or even a country but you can save someone who's unaware of the danger.

Mind you white people can still be ruthless, nowadays the ones with balls have their hands tied because of the laws, let's see how long this will last once shit starts to go down. A lot of people I know who were undecided 2 years ago are starting to turn "right" because of how things are being handled.

>>8353504
>Awww, so typical, daddyarthur always swooping in to coddle pajeet!
Then do this, you go live in a muslim neighborhood and I go live in a pajeet neighborhood. One less retard like you would do this world good.

>comparing pajeets to mudslimes
How new are you?

>>8353514
Hah, our muslim neighbourhoods are world renowned. And how fucking dumb are you, you want me in with the Muslims for the sake of one less of me, lovely that you're happy with "one less Libyan" after this incident with all the dead little girls! But I've hardly even made progress reading the Koran.

I actually get along fairly well with chinks, if Britbongs empowering Pajeets somehow obligates me to reciprocate, I know I can teach chincks to screw people better.

>>8353500
Ohhhhhhh, a protochristcuck kebab, Ughhhh! Your damn fault you feel the need to wave some annoying "BROWN" flag. At least Mongoloids let themselves be sorted into Yellow and Red.

Uugggh. Fucking uggggh. A sarmatian lanklet or whatnot. I'm still reeling from the last sarmatian lanklet I've had to encounter, and a white one at that. God, that faith-addled shit needs to be taught a lesson.

>>8353531
>Hah, our muslim neighbourhoods are world renowned.
Sure they are, not for good reasons tho.

>lovely that you're happy with "one less Libyan" after this incident with all the dead little girls!
I'm fine with one less retarded in the world, you fit the category so the best I could wish you is absolutely nothing good, but since you are pestering less of you is what I wish right now.

And I doubt you could teach someone something. Not enough grey mass.

>>8353547
Haha where do you come up with these insults dude

>>8353563
How*

>>8353563
Maybe he's high so he can't think of anything and ends up smashing words together, maybe he's just clinically retarded all the time.

>>8353574
Is he the Irish guy? Could be a bit tipsy

>>8353594
I don't know, don't really care that's some grade C shitposting so we know he ain't australian.

just woke up and non of the reactionaries have a problem with the west colluding with saudi arabia.

terrorist sympathisers the lot of you. you all have the blood of the yemenis on your hands. as well as the blood of the manchester victims

saudi arabia is literally funding and supporting ISIS and when some noble politician (corbyn) comes to call them out, no one listens and rushes to the defense of cameron/may/clinton/drumpf (who has showed his true colours, btw, as a lousy backstabbing neocon) saying it's necessary for the security of the western world, bollocks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuCyczEqtPk

>>8353700
Conservacucks are just partisan hacks that don't look into policy specifics.

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>>8353714
>complains about one issue politics
>by talking about one issue.

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Look at the state of the Labour supporters itt.

>>8352273
>>8352305
Go be a bitter little Irishman somewhere else.
We're fundamentally better than you and so we've treated you like a stress ball for hundreds of years. Try to find some dignity in your situation m8, drunkenly venting about it to us online isn't the way to go.
This is Brit/lgbt/, if you seethe so hard at Britain and British people, why did you deliberately seek out a Brit thread full of British people? Fucking retard.

The way you're so smug about the fact that your subhuman Marxist terrorist mates nail-bombed horses and crippled Tebbit's wife shows we should have absolutely no sympathy for you or your victimy position. You can't cry about how mean we've been to you and then go on to celebrate the terrorism you've committed against us.

And like it or not, Scotland is British. We're not "in" Scotland. Scotland is literally a major part of the island of Great Britain, and was an equal partner to England (if not more so, due to King James himself being Scottish) in merging the two countries into the Kingdom of Britain. Does the funding for the Irish education system get entirely diverted into alcohol, papal levies, and bomb-making or something?

>>8353700
>non of the reactionaries have a problem with the west colluding with saudi arabia
Anybody who uses "reactionary" as a pejorative can't be taken seriously.
You're just making shit up. It's not that we don't have a problem with Saudi, we do, but we acknowledge that Saudi's influence and actions has only exacerbated the issues we have, not caused them. Muslim immigration is the fundamental problem. What could Saudi do if Labour hadn't welcomed millions of Muslims into the country without mandate from the people? Fucking nothing.
You're making a hero out of Corbyn, a man who supports Muslims, immigration and terrorism, because you think he'll try to do something about Muslim terrorism just because he hates our foreign policy - which was started by Labour.

>>8354019
>What could Saudi do if Labour hadn't welcomed millions of Muslims into the country without mandate from the people?
Collude with the US and Merkel's EU, pour waves of immigrants into France, set sights on reclaiming -An-analducia, proceed with setting up Pakistan to nuke Iran.

>>8353563
Just from knowing my shit, and being willing to use appropriate ones not resorting to habits.

>>8353563
and Kebab is in no way made up, it's common terminology for Turks, Albanians and similar types.

>>8353553
Ahhh, so you can't hide that you are happy for this incident, if not for the sake of seeing the Algerian dead, then for seeing his kind look bad.

Can't wait until a based muslim genetically engineers a new STD to cleanse away faggots.

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>>8358046