Is this poster from the so-called "Liberal Democrats"

>>8331256
Duh.
The Lib Dems hate LGBT people.
The leader of the party believes gay sex is a sin.

>>8331261
I thought they were liberals?!

>>8331268
You'd think so.
But their leadership clearly do not reflect these liberal views.
And you can't blame his Christianity on it, even Theresa May who's father was a vicar has said she doesn't think that gay sex is a sin.

>not voting Labour

>>8331333
Kys, im voting for mommy and you are getting OUT.

>>8331391
>im voting for mommy
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/674489/Home-Secretary-Theresa-May-says-Britain-benefits-Sharia-Law

>>8331391
>being a tranny
>voting to kill the NHS so the people in the house of lords can buy a ninth rolls royce
smdh

>>8331419
fan of gatekeeping?

>>8331256
>it's TRANSPHOBIC!
Look, I get it, concern-troll attacks like this from progressive protected classes are the most effective attacks, because they can't defend themselves against this without offending even more people.
I hate the tories, if you're just doing cynically to hurt them, because you know it'll work, fine.
But you have to be a god damn moron to think that ad is transphobic.
That ad's point is: "see! those Tories are ebil nazis!" and you manage to spin that into the LibDem being nazis. Literally virtue-signalling to attack virtue-signallers.

>>8331419
Whoops, found the brainwashed corbynite.

>>8331436
>That ad's point is: "see! those Tories are ebil tranny nazis in dresses!"
FTFY

Now maybe you see why it's transphobic?

>>8331450
The point is that Theresa May (a woman) is secretly the ebil Nigel Farage. It has nothing to do with trannies, retard.

>>8331459
>It has nothing to do with trannies, retard.
Trans members of the party that published it disagree.

Why are they all retards?

>>8331256
I don't get it, is that an ad?
Are they trying to say transsexualism is going out of hand, or what?

>>8331268
>>8331283

afaik their leader says he doesnt think its moral but thinks peoples right to make their own descisions should inform his policy more than his own beliefs, same with drug legalization.

I think its cool to see a politician whos actually liberal about this sort of stuff.

also theyre in favour of repealing the snoopers charter and for election reform. So I think im voting for them even if it feels like a wasted vote

>>8331465
yeah I dont get why good liberal policies always come bundled in with retarded, pandering, crybaby shitsteaks

>>8331476
Shopping a man as a woman is transphobic now or something

>>8331465
>Why are they all retards?
I just explained. Can you read? You realize the pic is a morph, right?

>>8331476
The picture is of Theresa May. You can tell by her necklace and hair. They photoshopped """far-right""" Nigel Farage's face onto her to imply that she's giving a moderate "face" to Nigel's policies.

>>8331476
are you dense?

theyre saying that the conservative party has co-opted a lot of ukip policies.

They woman is our PM and the guy is the ex-head of UKIP (if youre not british or something)

>>8331480
He's a dinosaur, he shouldn't be in political office.

>>8331489
>He's a dinosaur, he shouldn't be in political office.

What does he mean by this

>>8331489
>he shouldn't be in political office.
Give it three weeks.

>>8331488
Maybe you're retarded?
OP gives absolutely no information, just an image, no explanation.

>>8331436
>>8331459
>>8331488
>There’s all sorts of “a wolf in sheep’s clothing” lines you could be going for that aren’t ‘hahahahaha it’s a man in a dress’.

>>8331492
Hah, I support him more than the others but no chance is he getting in.

>>8331495
Honestly, my thinking is that if you're british and dont instantly recognise the two people being mashed together and then understand the point the libdems are trying to make. You're pretty dense.

and if you do recognise the people and still think of the image is transphobic then you need to grow up.

But its my bad for assuming that people from other countries would get it, so sorry about that.

>>8331498
>Thinking comparing a man to a woman is the same as ‘hahahahaha it’s a man in a dress’.

Grow up.

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>>8331498
Don't feed the fish.
sage

>>8331501
>Grow up.
You know you're talking to the trans members of the party you say you support?

>>8331256
Well, so after an explanation was given (maybe you should do that in your next thread, in the OP, OP?)

No, that's not transphobic.
What it is however, is tasteless politics. Politics that attempt to gain popularity by making other political parties look bad is extremely childish and bad politics, that's running into US politics territory... Which is more like a kindergarten play on politics, or a reality tv series, with excessive scripts.

>>8331504
yeah, its shit.

But id vote for Hitler 2:Electric Boogaloo if he was the best chance forelection reform

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>>8331256
>Not voting for the labour party
It's like you WANT to be punished.

>>8331419
The NHS gatekeeper and turns countless trannies into hons by making them wait years till they're irreversibly masculinized then they ban ffs

The Obamacare would be far better than that

>>8333731
>Voting for Jeremy corbyn
>a staunch supporter of chavismo and the chavista government that left the country in ruins and on the brink of civil war

No thanks.

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>>8334519
Like it or not, the meme magic is with him this year. Best get used to him.

>>8334530
>the meme magic is with him this year
gl w/ tht

>>8331506
>LibDem supporter admits he would vote for Hitler
They both wanted a united Europe...

>>8331256
Obviously it's transphobic.

>>8331256
Without knowing any kind of context I can't even figure out what the point of the poster is supposed to be. Is it accusing some other party of being deceitful for having a trans candidate or something? Because if so, then yeah, I think it's pretty much undeniably transphobic.

>>8344674
It's trying to get voters to connect Theresa May (current British PM) with Nigel Farage (the former leader of the UK independence party)

It is about Brexit

It has nothing to do with trannies whatsoever

>>8344784
>It has nothing to do with trannies whatsoever
Trans members of the party that published it don't agree.

>>8344882
Ok, but its taking something and twisting its intended meaning to be angry about something.

I recognized who it was and what it was supposed to mean pretty much instantly, and I am from halfway accross the world in a country that speaks a different language entirely. If someone who is that far removed from the UK can spot it, it really shouldnt be that hard for other to.

>>8344882
Then they're idiots who need to stop thinking everything is about them.

This is like a black guy watching Star Wars and saying "dark side of the force is evil? DAS RAYCIS"

>>8344910
>Ok, but its taking something and twisting its intended meaning to be angry about something.
That would make sense if it was political opponents who were saying that, not supporters.

>I recognized who it was and what it was supposed to mean pretty much instantly,
The issue isn't getting the political message. It's the way it's being conveyed. As they put it, "There’s all sorts of “a wolf in sheep’s clothing” lines you could be going for that aren’t ‘hahahahaha it’s a man in a dress’."

>>8344952
The man in a dress is a staple of British humour. Didn't you ever watch Monty Python?

It is not transphobic any more than drag queen shows are transphobic.

>>8345028
Talk to the LibDem supporters who complain about their poster, not me. John Cleese used to back them. I wonder if he still does.

I've never seen a poster that made me want to vote for conservatives more.

>>8331422
No? The problem with the NHS Trans Healthcare is a mixture of things, outdated Blanchardian views on gender, and extreme underfunding which results in so little doctors and therapists in place.

>>8346404
>the NHS
>Blanchardian views on gender
[citation needed]

>>8346408
They literally ask questions like "How do you masturbate?" "What do you wear when you masturbate?" "Do you think of yourself as a woman in your fantasies?"

Shit like that, went through it myself, also they seem to hate on autistic trannies and gatekeep them to fuck because they seem to think that autists are incapable of deciding who they are, despite a huge chunk of trannies being spergs

I've had to go with folk to their appts to "advocate" for them, and watched the way in which gender therapists try to catch them out

>>8346416
That or the dude who asked me questions like that is a pure chaser, wouldn't be surprised, its kinda like how paedos lean towards being gym teachers careerwise

>>8346416
What defense do they use for gatekeeping you if you do answer wrong to the masturbation questions or are autistic?

>>8346425
"We don't think you're transitioning for the right reasons" or "We don't think we're quite ready to make a decision at this point"

This is why I always tell trannies to lie, like it sucks needing to lie about shit but if you're desperate for hormones like, do your research first on how to answer basic questions

It's not that hard, just be all "I've known since I was very young", "I feel like I'm trapped in the wrong body" "My dysphoria makes me suicidal and depressed" "I'm self medding" etc

Or if you're one ah they non binary folk just say you're a trans man or woman depending on what mones you want.

>>8346418
What are the chaser questions?

>>8346451
Blanchard didn't say AGPs shouldn't transition though.

>>8346461
The chaser questions are the ones about how do you masturbate and shit

>>8346451
>"We don't think you're transitioning for the right reasons" or "We don't think we're quite ready to make a decision at this point"
maybe they are right

>>8331256
>Their trans members
Trans members or transtrenders?

It wouldn't be the first time some cishet in unisex clothes who is "ZOMG QUEER" decides that she (it's always a she) speaks for everyone in the lgbt community when she deems something homophobic/transphobic/biphobic.

>>8334519
I'm >>8333731
I haven't been here for a while and I just saw this post. I am part of the Labour Party and Jeremy Corbyn is a fucking tool. I have him so much he needs to step down.

>>8350640
I hate him so much*

>>8350640
>he needs to step down.
Two weeks and he'll be gone.

What role do you think he'll have in McDonnell's shadow cabinet?

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>>8334530
Kek is so unpredictable, one day elects a orange old man with jewish family and that's for some reason empowers nazis and later elects a neoliberal and madres underperform the nationalist candidate, and now is gonna to elect a socialist.

Kek is not /Pol/, Kek just want salt, chaos, butthurt, /Pol/ committed a serious error when they believed Kek was in their side.

A chaos frog trap god never can be your allied, you just can use his momentum, magic and blessing to win some battles.

>>8353509
>and now is gonna to elect a socialist.
Your digit says otherwise.

>>8331333
>not voting for UKIP

It's like you want Brussels to fuck us over

>>8331283
Liberal =/= progressive

He's liberal enough that he doesn't want to prevent people from doing it. And it's literally just him who thinks it's a sin; the rest of the party isn't like that. He was a more charismatic potential leader than Norman Lamb.

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>>8331391
the.uniformed /Pol/ack voting for the former head of the Bank of England because she will have the people's interest at heart. After she came out in favour of ivory and fox hunting she is finished anyway. Enjoy losing.
We Corbyn now

>>8346416
>they seem to hate on autistic trannies and gatekeep them to fuck because they seem to think that autists are incapable of deciding who they are

I guess it depends on whether you having "being spergy" level autism or "pepperspraying people because Nintendo changed the colour of Sonic's arms" level autism

>>8358448
fuck off

>>8360643
Chris-chan is not trans.

>>8333731
>jerry "castro was chempion of social justice" corbyn

>>8333731
>>8358448
>>8368846
It honestly sickens me that LGBT people are so ignorant or self-hating that they would support someone who rounded up gays and had them shot.

It's the kind of person who would vote for a neo-Nazi while unironically wearing a pink triangle.

>>8358191
>the rest of the party isn't like that.
Not they just want to be led by him.

>>8376268
nothing wrong with supporting a guy who can put what he thinks is right for everyone ahead of what he thinks is right for himself, its a good trait to have for a politician

>>8376305
Fair enough but I believe in liberalism and democracy so he and his party weren't in the running for my vote anyway.

>>8376310
arent they the only party advocating election reform? afaik thats the biggest thumb up the arse of democracy at the moment

>>8376372
No, the Greens and UKIP are too, so I shan't vote for them either.

>>8376401
wait, are you saying election reform is bad?

>>8376433
Uh, yeah? We need to be able to vote prime ministers in or out and we need to have stable governments. Election "reform" screws up both of those.

>>8376441
ut the current system actively discourages people from voting for the people they want to lead by having a vote for any one other than one of the two main parties be essentially a vote for your least favourite of those two.

I understand if you dont agree with the particular way they want to reform it but you cant say our current system doesnt have glaring problems that need to be fixed.

also in our current system we dont vote prime ministers in or out, case in point:our current prime minister. i dont see how STV would be different than our current system in that way but Ive only looked into it a little.

what do you mean by stable governments btw

>>8376471
>but you cant say our current system doesnt have glaring problems that need to be fixed.
Well you're presuming tactical voting is a problem. It's not. It's fine. Do it if you want to, don't if you don't.

STV has tactical voting too and your vote can even make it less likely the candidate you vote for gets elected.

>what do you mean by stable governments btw
Parliament not being fragmented among a bunch of tiny parties and independent MPs.Ireland has STV and that's what happens there. They almost always have a coalition government.

>>8376487
Do it if you want to, don't if you don't is a bad argument. its basically saying take part in a fake democracy or pretend to take part in a real one.

can you explain this tactical voting works in stv, I dont get how it would in ranked voting but then again I havent read up or thought about it much.

Ive never thought about the fragmented governments stuff. whats wrong with it?

>>8376658
It's not fake democracy though.

>I dont get how it would in ranked voting
It happens because ranking a candidate high may be worse for them. Yes, you read that right, saying you prefer A to B may cause A to lose. You can tactically vote B above A to make A more likely to win.

If that sounds terrible, yes, it is. I don't support STV.

>Ive never thought about the fragmented governments stuff. whats wrong with it?
No party has to take responsibility for what they did. Partners in a coalition can blame each other when what they do together goes wrong. Plus you never get to see if one party's policies are bad, because they're never in power alone. If they were, and the country went to shit, then they could get voted out. But when it's a coalition you never get to see that party's policies,just a mess of whichever coalition you end up with. And a government could collapse any day if the parties in coalition stop getting along, causing instability. Plus it can turn third parties into kingmakers. If a third party is big enough, then whatever the larger parties votes, it's the third party that decided which one to coalition with and which one ends up in power. In other words, instead of choosing between Cameron and Miliband for PM, Clegg id deputy PM for life and gets to be the one to decide who becomes PM after every election, or even without elections.

>>8376441
>we need to have stable governments.
Yeah, because your current government is so strong and stable right?

>>8377289
It would be stabler if parliament were less fragmented. Don't make it more so.

'Your water is changing your sexuality' says Lib Dem candidate
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/02/water-changing-sexuality-says-lib-dem-candidate/

Tim Farron again refuses to say whether homosexuality is a sin
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/02/tim-farron-again-refuses-to-say-whether-homosexuality-is-a-sin-lgbt-rights

>>8377344
>if parliament were less fragmented
The Tories have a majority, maybe if you elected less fragmented parties...

>>8377378
>The Tories have a majority,
Just barely.

>>8377237
being unable to vote for someone you believe is right and being unable to effectively vote against a policy that the two big parties share seems pretty fake to me.

>It happens because ranking a candidate high may be worse for them
I know what tactical voting is, I was asking how it would work in other voting systems.

Can people not hold people responisble based on what policies they voted for or against? why does a party have to have a majority to be held responsible

>>8377344
>Your water is changing your sexuality' says Lib Dem candidate
I heard its also making the friggin frogs gay

>>8377237
how would ranking A higher cause A to lose?

>>8380139
Because STV is a very bad system.

>>8331256
>vote for may and get farage
I fucking wish.

>>8380232
if only....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXkoVVF59fc

>>8380139
It doesn't. I live in Ireland and I'd love it if that person could outline to me how such a scenario is possible.

>>8380182
It's not, it works extremely well and produces seat totals almost exactly proportional to which way people voted.

You know what is a bad system? Getting 36% of the vote but 51% of the seats.

>>8380232
>>8380243
Letters?

>>8380285
aparrently it is possible,
http://antiflux.org/%7Emiles/Comment_on_STV_Steininger.pdf
it might be rare but Id still say election reform is important even if stv isnt the way to go

>>8380314
like lgb or t? im just here cause im a femboy.

P.s. don't actually want farage, just like that video

>>8380285
>>8380324
Interesting how that poster said it doesn't happen but an expert showed it does. Why was anon so sure of themself?

>>8380335
maybe because he'd lived under it and had never noticed or heard about it. either because its rare or because the ranked nature of the voting system makes these sort of things harder to notice.

>>8380324
They seem to have gone with one very specific implementation, BC-STV, because that is certainly not how things work here.

>>8380335
Because that can't happen in Ireland. The candidate with the least votes is always eliminated, always. We've been using this system for a century, show me an example of it failing.

>>8380352
Then why is he still in denial about it? >>8380373

His understanding on the system he is happy to claim truths about is so poor he literally isn't even comprehending what the problem is.

It makes you wonder how many other major misconceptions people have utterly convinced themselves of, doesn't it?

>>8380378
instead of just saying he's denying, adress him mentioning the different implementation to ireland

did you have another major misconception in mind or were you just thinking about it?

>>8380378
>Next, it is clear nobody has quota so the candidate with the lowest number of votes is eliminated. In this case Pear,
NB it is not Lemon because Lemon support is in classes C and D
This example literally doesn't apply to Ireland, Lemon would get eliminated because it has the least votes.

But like I said, feel free to show me an example of it failing here.

>>8380395
There is no different implementation in Ireland. He simply doesn't know what he's talking about. Read your own link and see how what he said is absolutely nothing to do with it.

He probably didn't even read the link and just pigheadedly stuck to his belief that whatever it could possibly say didn't apply to the system he knew because he knew it so well despite obviously having no idea how it actually works in practice. His understanding is that of someone who watch one three-minute youtube video about how great it is. Yet he is so sure of himself that when he hears that is a problem with it he without even seeing what the problem is just assumes with 100% certainty that it's about some other system, not the perfect one he knows.

>>8380400
In this guys defence does show a number of points against stv that arent tactical voting related (and still apply to ireland I assume)

>>8380373
>The candidate with the least votes is always eliminated, always.
>>8380400
>so the candidate with the lowest number of votes is eliminated.
?

>>8380314
B. It's either tories or fucking stalin sympathisers lead by delusional idiot who will slobber over merkel crusty snatch. And at least farage is a pretty fun guy.

After tonight I'm voting Tory, Nigel in drag or not.

>>8331391
>mommy
no you're not

you're not even british, you fuck

How anyone can vote for May is honestly beyond me. Atrocious politician that refuses to debate or even talk openly about her policies, she works in the fucking shadows. At least Corbyn is a genuine person and a good politician, but people won't vote for him because he doesn't want to blow up millions of people and they think he's somehow not going to leave the eu even though he'd be fucking murdered if he didn't

>>8386053
>At least Corbyn is a genuine person and a good politician
He's a terrorist-supporter and a liar.

>>8386053
She's the lesser evil.

>>8331256
You insecure fucks. No it's not transphobic it's about by keeping the current PM you would be backing policies that are shared with the xenophobic party UKIP

>>8331419
Where is labour getting all its money from?

I mean, it's ridding uni fees? Who's paying for all that + NHS etc??

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>>8391469
>xenophobic party UKIP

>"if you want a sovereign Britain where British people decide on British law, you are a xenophobe"

>>8391474
>Where is labour getting all its money from?
The unions.

>>8391469
You idiot, yes it is and even their own members who aren't quite so deluded as you can see it.

not voting liberal now

>>8360643
Plus, women are highly social creatures by nature (in before "bla bla social constructs bla bla patriarchy"). If you have poor social skills, you shouldn't transition.

>>8399737
>If you have poor social skills, you shouldn't transition.
If you have poor social skills you will fail as a man but can get away with it as a woman.

>>8403137
Wrong.
Clearly you don't hang around a lot of sexually successful women

>>8404163
???

If only! Nigel Farage ftw

>>8404243
QFT

>>8403137
false
autistic trannies are even creepier than autistic men
shy girls are cute but you're deluded if you think that's what you are

>>8331261

He looks like a trans-man. Is there a gay vs trans civil war in the offing?

>>8408147
>thinks gay sex is a sin
>uses transphobic propaganda
>ftm
He's a TERF!

>>8331256
is that hon prime minister now?

>>8403137
>>8406710
>You can never train yourself social skills
>NO!!! It's either OMEGA MALE or GIRL, NO OTHER OPTIONS!

I feel sorry for the poor sucker who gets trolled into taking skittles by you ingrates.

>>8331256
>vote for may get farage instead
I fucking wish.

>>8413466
Farage didn't even stand...

>>8413514
pathetic

>>8350640
>I am part of the Labour Party and Jeremy Corbyn is a fucking tool.
Well now.

>>8377350
Wish Farron had lost his seat as well as Clegg.

anyone that is offended by this can just go ahead and go ahead and die.

>>8350640
Hey anon, you still around? You wanna tell me how Corbyn sucks again?

>>8331256
no, that poster is trying to make theresa may look better

>>8419995
>McDonnell Said Corbyn Would Have to Resign if Labour Lost
https://youtu.be/9nACseIhsq4

>>8419655
regardless of what he belives for himself as far as I know he puts other peoples freedoms above his own beliefs and votes accordingly.I can respect that. also they want to repeal the snoopers charter so I wish i'd've voted for them

>>8426577
>he puts other peoples freedoms above his own beliefs and votes accordingly
No he doesn't, he's a remoaner.

>>8425746
?

>>8430337
Labour lost. So...

>>8425746
Dear Leader will drive labour to the ground. You might as well expect stalin, mao or castro to resign.

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>>8331256
Transphobe-in-chief has resigned
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/875041452300042242

Does Britain have the same two party system issue as the US where there's like 3 things on each side you absolutely have to abide by or you're the enemy?

>>8437631
There's basically no single thing you have to sign up to for either party, plus there's smaller parties too.

>>8331256
You left out the bit where they talked to exactly 4 transgender members of the party, all of whom were from one of the most "progressive" parts of London

You know, the sort of people that think milk is racist

>>8434408
>Dear Leader will drive labour to the ground.
Like he did last week?

>>8442551
kek

>>8380400
>ireland
>the country with an electoral system that rewards duplicate candidates

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>>8442551
Fuck Corbyn, why can't you people have reasonable Hillary-like candidates?

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>>8451690
you can't stop us.

>>8451690
This literally happened because in 2015 the Labour party abolished their equivalent of superdelegates.

In every past Labour leadership election, a far left candidate wouldn't have made it.

>>8452408
Sad!

>>8451690
Educate yourself
https://youtu.be/xpI6Cpv8kUc

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>>8331256
>implying Nigel farage isn't the only one willing to keep Muslims out
>implying sharia may doesn't support Muslims throwing fags off buildings
When is nige coming back lads?

>>8455074
Waters is better.

>>8454813
>click video
>fagface with fagvoice springs up
Spilling your soy all over the place is rude, anon.

>>8458007
What did you expect from Labourshit?

>>8452408
i thought superdelegates were bad?

>>8466101
They aren't.

>>8452408
And Corbin won the highest labour vote in fifty years and humiliated may.

I'd rather a crazy old man than all of those intolerable and corrupt empty suits who ran labour.

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>>8455074
never.

the "alt-right" lost their war thanks to trump, now "identirarias" are losing everything in europe and trump is just a centrist republican witha harder immigration policy that thanks to memes /pol/ believed he was one of them when he is a turbo-kike.

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>>8331256
Weren't Lib Dems together with her in the Cameron government?

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This comes from the french equivalent of ADL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnYmV8WoTFg

>>8475267
She's adopted radical new policies since then, like enacting the people's will.

>>8331268
Wait you didn't know yet that liberals have become blood sucking vampires. Have you been living under a rock.

>>8475326
i always did think british people were arrogant, amoral, venal bootlickers, brutish, dimwitted and wholly ignorant and uncaring of everything outside of their individual spheres, so i guess you're right

>>8475326
being this dense

>>8483939
>>8484301
???