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/femgen/ and /enbygen/ - Better Together Edition

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Femboy and nonbinary general thread.

FAQ
>What is a femboy?
An androgynous male with feminine and soft features. Most are gay.
>What is an enby?
"Nonbinary" is a term used to describe anyone whose gender identity is neither entirely male nor female. Dysphoria is not necessary to be nonbinary, but many nonbinary people do have dysphoria. Some common nonbinary genders include agender, androgyne, bigender, genderfluid and genderqueer.
>What form of dysphoria do enbys have?
While the physical dysphoria nonbinary people sometimes experience often resembles that of binary trans people, sometimes dysphoria can be different: some people feel dysphoria towards having any genitals or sex characteristics at all, and some (especially genderfluid & bigender people) have dysphoria that fluctuates, having dysphoria towards female traits at some points and towards male traits at others.
Some nonbinary people feel social dysphoria towards having gendered terms describe them, and some feel dysphoria towards having "she" or "he" pronouns used for them as well. Some nonbinary people who feel this dysphoria will keep their birth pronouns or switch to the other gendered pronoun instead, and only ask for neutral pronouns in circles where others will actually use them.
>Are femboys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
>Can I be a femboy?
It's possible. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
>Should I go on HRT?
You'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man. There's more info in the pastebin.
>Is liking femboys considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
>Spammers?
Begin cute anime boy dump.
>Pastebin?
http://pastebin.com/9Ab1SpRE
>Wiki?
https://madgenderscience.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
>Discord?
http://discord.gg/faBYaap
>Eurofem for European femboys
https://discord.gg/wAVZseQ

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>>8307445
operation_fear.thread
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>>8307457
What did they mean by this?
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>>8307463
Don't fall for cybernat propaganda.
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>>8307468
Repost cause the thread died.

Also is this a troll thread or what operation cute anime boy dump commence.
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>>8307489
Why would this be a troll thread?
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>>8307445
This is a worse idea than afpgen
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>>8307499
How so? We have similar interests, so it makes sense to merge.
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>>8307485
What did they mean by this?
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>>8307560
Why are we posting images of cute anime boys again?
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>>8307560
Why is she surrounded by dicks?
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>>8307588
*he
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>>8307572
Cause it's an obvious troll thread senpai.

>>8307588
They're sneks and they don't like when u tread on them
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>>8307617
>and they don't like when u tread on them
So much for femboys being hsts.
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>>8307588
And He is a boy silly.
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>>8307617
How is this an obvious troll thread?
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>>8307598
>>8307658
Okay, okay, jeez. 'He' can be a boy as long as 'he' wants before revealing 'he' was on mones the whole time.
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It's been awhile since I've been to zerochan evidently Len fucking a smaller version of himself is a thing.

>>8307638
>Wanting to be tread on.
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>>8307695
It's a good thing! An HSTS wouldn't care.
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>>8307680
It's not his fault
He just took to much estus :/

>>8307715
Okay well that's good that we don't get into arbitrary blandchardian categories.
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how do I get rid of my fetish for boys? I don't like manly men so I should be straight
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>>8307823
It is not possible, just accept it, you are gay or bi.
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>>8307850
I would say bi, but then someone very straight and very manly with a superior intellect will tell me I don't have any r e a l homosexual feelings and am actually straight unless I want bodybuilder bears to sit on my face etc

what then? do I just kill myself because I'm a fake bisexual?
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>>8308019
You are a real bisexual, you are simply into androgynous boys. It would be absurd to call someone a fake gay if they are into androgynous male and no females of any type, and so it similarly would be absurd to call you a fake bisexual.
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>>8308081
that makes sense... I will try to work with that, thank you anon
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>>8307445
>enby tumblr attention whore degeneracy
Well, here come all the ugly fucks.
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>>8308081
>you are simply into androgynous boys

protip: people who are into androgynous boys are called "pedophiles"
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>>8308430
no, anon, being into neotenous boys is pedophilic
being into androgynous boys is not
is being attracted to modelesque, pretransition Andreja Pejic pedophilic?
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>>8308436
>into neotenous boys

pedophile detected
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>>8307756
How did you know about Gwyndolin's estus habit?!
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>>8308478
end yourself edgy kid
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>>8308019
Honestly most gay guys I meet aren't down with me taking hormones so if your cool with that it's pretty awesome that being said like the other anon said there is no fake gay or fake bi. Like I might be pseudo bi cause I like watching straight porn and hentai but when I go to get with a girl I can't get hard unless I picture her as a cute guy I feel horrible about this brw and never date females because of it that being said if a female was a dom and topped I think I could make that work. I did experiment with a mtf but cut contact when I felt like I wasn't respecting her identity and she would be better off with someone who's truly straight.

>>8308498
I wish I could say it cause I played all the dark souls but it's caused I lurked /y/ threads desu my copy got crushed by my brother.
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>>8308620
Is it kosher to post Gwyndolin in y when he has boobs?
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>tfw femgen doesn't like you because they think you're a full on tranny, but in reality you are nb and just take the fem part of femboy a bit too far
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>>8308661
It sparked a ton of shit but really it was only one autist that had an issue with gywndolin posting the rest of the thread had fun and posted some really hot /y/ art I wished I had saved. Btw is a cleric hard to play in Ds? I've considered that build or pyromancer.
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>>8308430
No, they are femboyphiles.
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>>8308874
I think Loveisover archives /y/.
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>>8308891
Hey, that's not a word!
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>>8308923
Yes it is. Femboy- meaning relating to femboys, androgynous males, and -phile meaning loving/fetish.
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>>8308896
They do and /d/ archives are pretty great too.
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>know a femboy
>he is literally too dumb to date
ive become a meme
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>>8309284
>Think myself a regular guy
>Depending on who you ask I'm a Femboy
>I'm really stupid in a lot of ways
>Only saving grace is I'm bully-able and very nice
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>>8308874
Herald is much better in DS3, they're knight like, but with a dexterity emphasis and can cast miracles too. So it's a good balance between Armour, agility and miracles. Just switch out the spear for something better.
Plus their outfit kinda looks like griffith, especially if you mix with silver knight stuff. So maybe you can play along with an ultra buff greatsword warrior bff.
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hi femboys
enby here
:3
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>>8309975
u now a femboy
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Are all bigenders bisexual?
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I have my last final tomorrow on neurobiology! Then I can reply to the massive backlog of posts from the previous thread.
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>>8310010
Not all enbys are femboys, anon.
>>8310030
Not all bigenders are bisexual, anon. Gender is different from sexuality.
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>>8310038
Good luck!!
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>>8309715

im attracted to ditzyness desu

you just gotta be fun/humble/not a cunt
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So, femboy HRT is same as trans girl HRT except breast growth, right?

Just trying to understand.
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>>8310335
It is more complicated than just that.
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>>8310375

Sorry, bit confused here. I know both cause some degree of feminization. I know Raloxifene prevents breast growth while feminizing you.
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>>8307445
>/femgen/ and /enbygen/
This is not the femgen I knew from 2 years ago.
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>>8310388
It is uncertain how much feminization raloxifene causes though. We know that it avoids the adverse effects upon mood, cognition, bone mineral density, and lipid profile of (essentially) no sex hormones. We know it causes a female-typical fat distribution pattern, although the effect upon facial fat is uncertain. It likely would cause a female-typical skeletal structure, if you start early enough. Other than that, feminization from raloxifene, a SERM, is uncertain. Some of what is viewed as feminization is actually just the absence of masculinization, so the antiandrogen causes it. The antiandrogen bicalutamide is somewhat different than other antiandrogens, as it does not stop the production of testosterone, only it binding to the androgen receptor. It also has reduced blood-brain barrier penetration (it causes less loss of libido than other treatments, this is the only plausible mechanism), it should not effect muscle growth (as much) (testosterone has antiglucucorticoid activity, and research articles do discuss this as an important mechanism for the anabolic effects of testosterone, and a study found no decrease in muscle in patients given bicalutamide), and fertility is retained. Bicalutamide will do everything else than an antiandrogen does, though.
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>>8310398
Can you elaborate? And is there anything wrong with this?
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>>8309284
I'm a femboy but I'm sort smart. I'm secretly trans though.
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>>8310437
>sort smart
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>>8310436
It's fine, just... different. A lot different than it used to be.

I, for one, welcome our new enby overlords.
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>>8310425

I read the pastebin, and it seems that to become a femboy is to take low dose of AA and estrogen or SERM, and hope for the best that you look androgynous.

I want to have body like Japanese crossdressers and it does help that I am Asian. I am trying to look like them as much as possible, but I don't know how to.

Anyways, thank you.
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>>8310448
There has been some of us doing cross-sex HRT in /femgen/ since at least the beginning of Loveisover. But yes, we are different in some ways from the past.
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>>8310461
The femboys usually just take a normal dosage of the AA, of course there is some uncertainty as to what the usual dosage should be for femboy purposes for bicalutamide, although PSA levels have been proposed as a biomarker for androgen activity in patients without prostate cancer.
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>>8310476

Hm, so femboys usually take AA only? I know I might sound hypocritical, but I want to feminize myself, but only to being androgynous,
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>>8310485
I was meaning that they usually take a normal dosage of the AA, instead of taking a low dosage. Taking an AA by itself is a bad idea, as a status of (essentially) no sex hormones can have adverse effects upon mood, cognition, bone mineral density, and lipid profile. As you how much of the AA you would be taking to try to just be androgynous, I guess that would depend on what exactly you mean. It would not harm a person to try taking a low dosage first to see if it is enough, as long as one is taking a normal, full estrogen or a SERM.
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>>8307347
>You should just wait to ask the endocrinologist.
Issue is everytime I shower I see more and more hair being lost. I can't stand sitting here doing nothing.
I halved my bica the other day and this morning I finally had a bit of fluff back in my hair, but it could be coincidence. Literally 16 hours later my hair is flat and is showing my scalp even at the top of my head now which before it was just the front.

I can't stand to do nothing, but I'm conflicted since I'm going to likely need to be on these until I see the Endrino for me to get tested.
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>>8310988
Actually I have Progynova here (Which caused severe side effects; Maybe caused via the Ralox + Progy together so stopped them.), am I able to start taking them until my Endrino appointment and then have her issue me Tamoxifen?
I want off Ralox ASAP but I am unsure if you should 'ease off gently' from Ralox then introduce Progynova, or if since they're both estrogenic you can just jump from one to the other instantly.
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>>8310335
Basically yes.
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>>8309966
OMG yes I've heard of some of the grifith cis plays and they are super cool I'm actually going to be playing demon souls, Dark souls 1, Dark souls 2 and dark souls 3 mabye blood borne too tho the story line doesn't tie together well in the last one. Now my next question comes what is the best way to make a feminine boy character like if you die you lose your humanity and look all gross right so to keep a pretty boy character do you have to git gud? And I'd kinda like to see the prettiest dark souls boys is your character cute anon.

Also having a beefy bf that plays vidya would be a dream x3

>>8309715
>ex bf picks me up at the club completely hammered
>hasn't ever been to my house
>I give him directions that are wrong by accident.
>Even tho I've lived in my house for a full year I have no clue how to get here.
>He gets pretty frustrated leaves me in the middle of a gas station 20 miles away from my house.
>Gives me his number and speeds off
>my lesbian aunt picks me up after I call her crying cause I'm dressed like really flamerish in the middle of a redneck town.

He was the guy I lost my virginity too as well :/ that night before too. So yeah I fit the stereotype for common sense at least.

>>8310038
Good luck on your test anon tho I doubt you'll need it you know a ton about this stuff. I have a humble question I've been taking progesterone to get my libido back could that also be affecting my liver levels :/
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Where do I find a femboy bf? Where do you exist? I've never met one in the UK in my entire life
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>>8311445
there's a bunch in femgen discord.
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If I look at myself and hate my masculine traits does that mean I have dysphoria?

I know I'm not trans, I like my dick and like being a dude. I just really like to be feminine and cute ect.

I don't necessarily fully hate my masculinity, I like it to the point where I still look like a dude.

What do. I'm a switch but primarily top and dont want a ded dick from meds.
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>>8311445
Norwich tbqh
it is to trans shit and gender nonconformity what Brighton is to gay shit
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>>8311210
Oh wow I was the same way first time I played. Loved being human and felt disgusting when I went hollow. I usually just wanted to reverse it for looks.
Dark Souls 1 to get more humanity get ten levels in humanity (use 10 humanities back to back this'll bring up your item discovery)

Dark souls 2 there's a ring that'll make you look human without having to reverse following.

Dark Souls 3 you will never become hollowed unless you talk to the merchant next to the cliff in the area after you kill yordt. He has the option to,"draw out your inner strength". This will give you five free levels, but begin the following process. If you've already begun this and would like it reversed, purchase the tower key from the shrine handmade. Go up to the top of the tower, get the timekeeper soul and talk to the chick who levels you up. She'll offer to reverse the following permanently for five times your required souls to level up (assuming you have all five free levels from the merchant)
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>>8311529
Well it kinda sounds like remaining human in dark souls one is the hardest. I didn't play much but I died a lot when a first started which surprised me cause I can sss rank devil may cry and metal gear revengance plus nothing ever touched me in dantes inferno then again those games all have something in common they all have the ability to jump cancel and string combos together. So Should you focus on dodging more or put more stats into an offence or hp. Love that in dark souls two you have a ring that keeps you human in appearance lol I've also heard ds2 is the hardest to master as well and the boss fights are especially punishing. Really awesome they eliminated being hollow all together I'd start with this game but I feel I'd miss out on the storyline as well also is demon souls even part of the lord or a separate game.
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I tried a Braun Silk epilator. It works but it feels like Satan's claws digging into my skin.

Is there any way I can make this less awful? Would taking advil help?
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>>8311723
Does it feel like blood on Satan's claw?
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>>8311621
Ds2 is the easiest. Just use the agape ring to keep sm low and load up on legendary weapons from giving the crows stones

Most enemy's can be circle strafed. 3 is harder
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>>8311488
i need to get to norwich then
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>>8311031
Raloxifene has a longer half-life than estradiol, so it prevent having too much of estrogen activation from site where they are both proestrogenic, you would want to stop taking the raloxifene and then start taking the estradiol with a lower dosage such that estrogen activation at those tissues stays around the same, then increase to the desired dosage. This would be a simple calculation from the half-life of raloxifene. Also, what is the desired end dosage of the estradiol in this case?
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>>8311488
True, I see old fat white couples walking around with pink hair and harajuku-style accessories regularly.
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Please help /femgen/
I'm desperately trying to get rid of my acne but I ran out of medicine a while back. (It's going to be a while before I get more)
Now my face is starting to become covered in blackheads again and nothing I try is working (exfoliating, washing every night, etc). Do you guys have any advice? I can't get a cute bf like this
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>>8310398
i dont want us to be colonized by normies ;_;
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>>8313838
are you hrt? I've had like two pimples since starting ~6 months ago
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>will never be part of an elite, cybernetically enhanced blackbag operations squad eliminating threats to the femgen race
sad af rn
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>>8313421
I was just thinking of 2mg, but as much as I dread to think of it, I should probably not change to Progynova if even temporary just because it'll fuck with whatever the endrino wants me to do.

Plus when looking into it; Raloxifene, Progynova, Cypro, Bicalutamide and Tamoxifen can all cause hair loss.
Knowing my luck I'm not going to get any form of feminization and just lose hair no matter what one of these I'm on.

Unless this is part of the 'natural shedding cycle' I continue to hear about (Also taking Dutasteride) but still, I'm scared.
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>>8314204
Wait, please explain what info you found about Cypro causing hair loss
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When swimming should I cover my booblets? I have a-cup conetits and I am nonbinary, and I will be swimming in my apartment complex pool in a very visible courtyard with no children present in an ultraliberal city. Pool rules say "appropriate swimwear required".
Nonbinary btw.
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do you have to take hormones to be androgynous?
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>>8314335
Some do, some don't. Its honestly more genetics than anything.
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>>8314320
Ask in >>8277809
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>>8313838
iktf. some people just have bad skin and the only solution is medication. it sucks, but it's reality.
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>>8313939
Are you joking? Femgen was way more normie two years ago.

>>8314320
Depends on the rest of your body. If you're chubby, people aren't going to think much of it. If you're skinny, it would probably be considered indecent.

Post a picture of your chest and see if you get banned :^)
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>>8314320
i wouldnt care if you swam topless and had DDs, do whatever you want dude. If people are offended they will get over it


>>8311210
i have 125+ IQ and I have never known what my home address is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
your ex sounds like a cunt, you should let me lovingly bully you
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>>8314270
https://www.drugs.com/uk/cyproterone-acetate-50-mg-tablets-leaflet.html

I don't know whether the hair loss is just due to the 'bad DHT's hair shedding' aspect though. Since cypro lowers androgen, thus DHT and fuels the whole 'shedding hairs' cycle because literally every AA and estrogenic says hair loss.
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Hey /femgen/.
I've been told about the wonders of Magic depilatory powder in getting rid of nether region hair, but which version of the product is the best? There's red, gold, platinum... the list goes on.
Also, is there anything I should know before I use it? Thanks in advance.
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>>8315453
If you leave it on for too long it gives you chemical burns.
Also if you have sensitive skin, you'll get chemical burns either way.

Just get the brown one as shown in the pastebin thing. Gold I think it is.
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>anxiety on a hundred, thousand, TRILLION
>come to femgen to vent
>havent been here in months
>see thread title

I see things are still as cancerous as ever.
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>>8315471
How long is too long?
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>>8315497
I forgot, it's been a while.
It's on the "How to use" on the thing though.
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>>8314781
I've actually never had my IQ tested probably wasn't a reason to test it. I do remember reading Einstein with his high intellect didn't know his own phone number his entire life so I definitely wouldn't doubt even people with high IQs can have problems remembering important info.

>your ex sounds like a cunt, you should let me lovingly bully you

He was a jerk I worked really hard to fix him a really nice dinner even tho I'm not the best cook he told me after hours of slacking away to throw it out and that we are going out with his friends. He proceeded to only speak Spanish and French the whole time excluding me from the conversation.

He'd also laugh at me and said want to be a girl even cut my hair short and made me look even more faggy and sad cause I hate having short hair. God could he fuck tho.

Wait bullying eeep what kinda bullying? What is loving bullying btw?
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>>8315453
Gold and silver/platinum use calcium thioglycolate as the depilatory. The only difference between them is gold has an added scent whereas silver has added vitamin E and some oils.

Red and blue use barium sulfide as the depilatory. They only differ in concentrations of the ingredients.
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My pueraria mirifica and fenugreek came today and my sister got to it before me. Thank god the packaging doesn't reveal what's inside but she's suspicious because she could probably feel the powders. I know she doesn't really care, I've ordered general supplements before and was more anxious then than about this, but I feel like being anxious at all and not being open about it means I'm not a TrueFemboy®
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>>8311471
What about your masculine traits do you hate? How long have you felt this way? Why do you like looking like a dude?
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>>8314987
well that sucks, I had hoped it just meant bodyhair loss, I've been shedding scalp hair like crazy lately...
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what happened to regular femgen? i liked that a lot better. cant a boy talk about makeup and dicks in the courtesy of his own thread?
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>>8319293
This is regular /femgen/. You can still talk about that stuff.
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>>8313838
Patience. :^)
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>>8319293
It was somebody else's bad gag, it will go back to normal femgen soon
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>>8311210
Am I the only one who liked Griffith after he got all maimed and disfigured from the torture? I like broken, formerly perfect characters
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>>8321788
PUNISHED GRIFFITH
A GENERAL WITHOUT AN ARMY

daily reminder he did nothing wrong
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>>8321769
It is not a gag, it is the new norm. So you think this is an issue?
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>>8313838
STOP EATING COMPLETE FUCKING SHIT
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>>8321788
I'm pretty damaged anon jk
I dunno when his face was all messed up I wasn't fond of that form femto I think now I need to go rewatch beserk.

That being said juzzou from Tokyo ghoul is adorable to me and he is literally broken the self harm he does yo himself with the ribbons kind of looks really cool embarrassingly enough and kinda always love broken crazy guys in anime at least lol like alois, juzzou, kanato. Ashamed of liking alois and kanato cause they are legit batshit but cause the characters have a pretty face and fem appearance I think they look adorable. What other broken guys do you like anon?
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>>8323422
*to

sorry my autocorrect is shit
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i bet you faggots pee sitting down

https://www.strawpoll.me/13016457
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>>8322884
You cause controversy and that scares away our longtime posters. You're trying to cause us harm
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where do i find a qt femboy to date?
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>>8323886
But we can get some new people as well. And why is this controversial?
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>>8324021
It was already implied that this place would have people who identify with androgyny. If you like looking androgynous, then maybe you don't think of yourself as the same as normal men.
If you explicitly make it about trans stuff it will cause infighting. It's for the worse and this thread is slower than usual for that. Better to avoid labeled and leave it as femgen next time. Nonbinary are welcome but labels aren't needed.
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>>8311723
Wondering this as well.
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>>8324021
And I'm not saying that a lot of people here might not count as nonbinary or that nonbinary aren't welcome, they are.

But we're better off without labels. You're welcome to stay, I hope you and anyone else nb stay.
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>>8323422
He never really was perfect, that was just an act he kept for others and Irl he was possessive, spiteful and childish, in like the best possible way.
Getting abandoned by people precious to him and them being horrifically tortures broke him and turned him into a horrible demon monster though.
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>>8307572
Post more cm
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>>8315512
>God could he fuck tho.
this is what scares me about fems
i find infidelity and sluttiness absolutely disgusting
and most qt fems are whores

>What is loving bullying btw?
it means i bully you right to the point of frustration and then smother you with kisses so you cant retaliate, but if you know could make me stop if you really wanted to
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>>8325060
but you know you could make me stop if you really wanted to
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>>8323437
/femgen/, everyone.
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>>8325060
>i find infidelity and sluttiness absolutely disgusting

Well I was a pretty big whore at 18 I was also an alcoholic and druggie/general mess. I think I was lashing out cause I literally came out of the closet that year and my family started treating me like crap. So I'd hook up with guys and stay out all night making them worry. I never ever ever ever cheated on anyone I would feel horrible to break someone heart that way so I've never been unfaithful at least. I've also been without a bf for two years too so my slut days are over.

>it means i bully you right to the point of frustration and then smother you with kisses so you cant retaliate

That sounds so l-l-e-e-ewwwwd I'm really into that kinda bullying. Kisses all over are my kryptonite just don't ruffle my hair I hate that x3 or tickle me I'm horribly ticklish and some how my exs always found out :(

>>8325245
Anon please you know a large majority are trolls from mtfg or /ttt/
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I just did the hair removal 101 google docs thing and it worked wonders on my balls, ass and under area. My balls are smooth as fuck right now. It didn't really remove my pubes though.
But I just gotta say, it burned the absolute fuck out of my under area between my asshole and balls (forgot what it was called). Wasn't that bad but it really did sting. It's hairless and smooth now but holy shit did it sting for a while.
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>>8325925
It's the gooch anon did you leave it on too long it's only suppose to be on for like 7-10 minutes and even then if it start to tingle get that shit off you. I used it on my chest but I'm thinking lazer will be better and I'm buying an at home laser kit.
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>>8325953
> did you leave it on too long
I actually had it on for maybe 6 or so minutes. Wasn't that long because once my gooch(thanks) started burning pretty badly, I just washed it all off. I wonder if the fact I didn't leave it on for very long is the reason my pubes still have hair on them.
I think that's pretty weird though. My balls and ass and everywhere else I applied it were completely fine - just my gooch that burnt like fuck.
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>>8326054
I used veet on my legs once and it made skin red af and results were not better than shaving

and yeah its not very effective on thick hair like pubes or beard (if anyone was crazy enough to use acid on their face)
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>>8325925
link?
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>>8326222
I kinda used it on my face it didn't burn tho but man did the stubble get bad I'm thinking laser is the only option at this point.
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>>8325867
well then its settled, youll be my wife
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>>8328719
I kind of have a penis anon husband would be more appropriate. I can be the wife in the bedroom ;3
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>tfw my mom found my pantsu collection
I keep my own hamper and do my own laundry specifically so she doesn't see my crossdress stuff, but she thought she'd be nice and take the clothes from my hamper without me knowing to help me with laundry. She saw all of my panties and colourful socks inside but left them alone and just gave me my regular clothes.
She's not saying anything about it but I know she knows. This is very awkward.
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>>8329654
Just tell her it's your boyfriend's
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>>8323422
>kanato
Looked him up, he's like a meaner Juuzou if he were a ghoul and didn't have busted balls
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>>8329654
what is with mothers and this 'pretending i don't know even though you know i know' thing?

>>8329695
kek
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>>8329700
are you going by the anime or the visual novel cause he's a saint in the anime compared to the visual novels. The bad ends with him are brutal I think the creepiest is where he stores yui in a room full of wax corpses sent shivers up my spine. I mean the dude carries his moms ashes in a teddy bear he's clearly horribly deranged yet for some reason I ship him hard with Rei and I guess the concept artwork makes the relationship plausible at least.

Oddly he's the most romantic and loving when you get his good endings and the masochistic relationship he has with yui is pretty hot.

I wish I could read Japanese I've had to get my diabolik lovers fix on YouTube same with steins gate and fate series.

>tfw it's all girls who cosplay him
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>>8329754
i think its guilt/shame that they (unintentionally) invaded your privacy, so they just kinda panic and pretend it didnt happen
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>>8329316
sounds good to me.
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>>8329862
Why does it seem like he would be good at crossdressing?
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>>8329957
Cause he does ;3
Honestly I'm a bit upset that no fujoshi has made a yaoi with kanato being the cute uke butt slut before yui was captured and forced to live in the Sakamaki house.

I mean it's a house full of guys pretty guys at that and your telling me that after not having a girl over for ages they didn't need to relieve those urges, I'd draw it but I'm kinda a shit artist desu.
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I am moving into an apartment with no washer/dryer, which means I have to do all my laundry at a laundromat. Which means...
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>>8330037
>Which means...
you will meet people.
i met my first bf at a laundromat.
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>>8329946
They mellow out tho my mom was horrible for that shit even threatened to me out once when she found a wig and school girl outfit. I saved myself by saying it's just for cosplay. It kinda funny I'm pretty sure they know it's not especially when I'm ordering cat ears leather or latex and oblong boxes show up at my doorstep still they don't seem to care at this point. They know imma buttslutt.
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>>8330037
Okay where the fuck do you find cute shit like that.

Btw I used to was my laundry late at night and it seemed to work out okayish.

>>8330051
This sounds like a freaking adorable story incoming I wanna hear the details anon.
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>>8330074

Just look at cosplay outfits, anon.

>>8330051

Oh I'm not worried at all. I was wondering how to meet people without going to bars. It's perfect >:)
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I have to write a lab report that I was not told about until less than a week that it was due, covering the entire semester of work in the research lab. Then less than a week later, I am going back for the start of the analytical chemistry class, and more research.
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>>8329946
but they do it even if you were the one who left your panties out by accident
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>>8330094
>I was wondering how to meet people without going to bars.
You can meet people thanks to bars... or you can meet people thanks to bras.
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>>8330122
nice dubs
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>>8330228
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>>8325925

it's called a chode and don't forget it again or the internet police will come and rip yours off u lil bitch
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>>8329862
>he stores yui in a room full of wax corpses sent shivers up my spine. I mean the dude carries his moms ashes in a teddy bear he's clearly horribly deranged
Pretty much Juuzou if he'd instead become a Ghoul.

He could even snap and kill his "mama" and store her in a teddy bear
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>>8325925
Link to said doc?
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>>8333361
im guessing the manga explains juuzou's origin I should read it then does he actually become a ghoul at one point? The only thing I really know about him is the fragments given in the Tokyo Ghoul anime I do kind of remember the awfulness of him having to basically murder other for the entertainment of ghouls for his momma but you mentioned his balls what happened to those?
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>>8334513
He was raised by an abusive ghoul and ended up insane. His balls were crushed by her so he'd stay like a kid.

He doesn't become a ghoul I was just thinking they Kanato sounds like what he would have become if he'd stayed with ghouls and became one
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Are straight femboys a thing? I want to be myself but it feels like the more I do so the more girls are going to be repulsed by me.
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>>8334646
from the OP:
>An androgynous male with feminine and soft features. Most are gay.
>Most are gay
>Most
so, no, not all
and some girls like fem men
look in the right places and you shall receive
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what does /tttt/means?
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>>8334136
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YNGUSH6zutTcv_osPURNvH8K19mXiX730Y-JeDRMNbI/edit
>>8334646
Yes, there are straight femboys. Girls aren't going to be repulsed by you, but relatively few find (physically) feminine men attractive.
>>8334787
Trans trans trans trans. Some people refer to this board as /tttt/ because there are so many trans people here.
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what levels should I expect to rise or fall when beginning bicalumatide and raloxiflene? while T should be not affected, what else? Estradiol? TSH? Prolactin? else?
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>>8334646
I started off bi but hormones have made me much gayer and more attracted to men than I used to be
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>>8332576
chode is a dong (especially a wide and short one)

its spanish for sausage
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>>8334784
>look in the right places and you shall receive

W-where? How can I tell they're not just being friendly?
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>>8334941
Testosterone should increase to the upper end of the male range. Bicalutamide blocks the androgen receptor, so there's less negative feedback and your body makes more. Estradiol should increase, but I don't know how much. I think the increase in estradiol is caused by aromatase converting the excess testosterone, but I'm not certain. Prostate-specific antigen levels should be 90% lower than typical male levels.
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>take hormones for years to boost femboy aesthetics
>now have megamilks
What do I do?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l02yVxIKBSk
>fasletto
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>>8336091
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx5oYrMuc1M
>Is it okay to take estrogen?
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>>8334646
look for butch bi girls
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Can a tall body builder also be an effeminate bottom, or should I just resign myself to either being a top or being 4everalone?
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hrt has made my dick smell fishy, even right after a shower
i have thot smell on dick
help
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Just got my first laser treatment for my facial hair.

This isn't something I'm going to regret later, is it? Cause there's no turning back now.
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>>8338651
Very likely that when you're older the only thing that will make you not look hideous would be some sort of facial hair. Oh well.
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>>8338645
it's called girl pheromones
get ready for your masc friends to start thirsting once they catch your scent
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>>8338688
dude i saw a femboy once and could fucking sense the pheromones from a mile away

it was crazy

i wanted to fuck him.
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>>8337815
>body builder
>fem

wat
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>>8339499
I like to lift, it's fun, but I also want to be treated like a dirty little cockslut in bed.
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>>8324667
I am saying that non-binary people arent welcome

Luckily they dont exist so no one can get upset about that
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>>8339616
Nonbinary people are welcome here.
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>>8339997
Refugees not welcome. Crime rates have skyrocketed in every country that has let them in. Muslims are shit and should be crusaded, again.
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>>8307445
Alright, /mtfg/ was my first stop but this seems more like what I was wanting.
I'm naturally low test, but not so much that I'm able to get suppliments. I'm also fairly androgynous, and wanna do some crossplay.
I've been looking into ways to get boobs, and most people have said pueraria mirifica will not give me titties after 3 months, but HRT will and as a bonus, fuck me up for life.

Is there something that'll give me a slightly more femmy chest, and not fuck me up for life? kind of worried it'll affect my face too, but if it's a cute-affecting way I'll take it.
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>>8338645
What the eff
I HAVE THAT
I'M NOT EVEN ON HRT WHAT THE FUCK
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>>8340123
This will depend on what exactly your mean when you say:
>fuck me up for life.
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>>8330122
Finished now.
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>>8338645
Clean it better.
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WHEnevry i is alone I

Let's.. try again.

Whenever I'm alone I ALWAYS have a finger by my nose to smell the moisturizer I'm constantly applying. I never do this in person and no one knows I do it! That is all
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>>8311471
I sorta know this feel, to an extent.
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>>8308019
You are "bi" by normal definitions if you're attracted to everyone who's not masculine
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>>8340123
Are you seriously considering HRT because you "wanna do some crossplay"? Are you retarded? If you want tits for your cosplay, go buy breast forms.
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>>8342049
Obviously it's more than that. Just like how femboys call themselves cis but still transition.
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>>8340740
ya ur right i get thouroughly rubbing at every corner and crevice of it with body wash isnt enough
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>>8342353
> Body wash
And there's your problem.
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>>8342068
kek
>>8342412
what did he meme by this
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>>8343415
Cleaning products and dicks don't mix. Just water.
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>>8343544
What about acetone?
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>>8345223
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>>8345293
>russian
tf???
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I will be starting hang gliding lessons soon. Any other femboys that are doing that?
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>>8345293
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>>8315512
I have an IQ of 145 (I'm part of mensa)

I don't know the alphabet... Literally, I got teased relentlessly about it today
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>people not understanding what IQ really means
>these same people think they're 'intelligent'
never change, femgen
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>>8346924
I have to go through the rhyme in my head in order to figure out what order the letters come in.
I'm currently trying to teach myself the phonetic alphabet, though.
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Question I'm starting biccalcumide again after Cypro fucked my liver it will be temporary til I can get some way to stop my liver from fucking up. My question is what dose should I start with and how long can you take it should I get regular blood tests done? I'm taking 25mgs of Cypro now one thing scares me I did get a rash last time but my doctor said it was unrelated that because I quit taking it and the rash continued it had nothing to do with bicca I feel dumb about that one desu.
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>>8347050
>people with high Intelligence Quotient aren't intelligent

seems like a legit argument
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>>8347136
>Cypro fucked my liver
"HRT is safe"
-bio anon
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>>8347175
I don't really know if my liver is fucked desu I was being over dramatic shocking right tho my levels are over 180. I'd say if your young and get your levels tested hrt is safe. That being said I don't feel like Cypro is safe at all for one anything that can nuke the t the way it can probably isn't great for longtime use of mabye my alcoholism caught up to me I'm also going with injections since well sublingual e probably will fuck me up like Cypro did.
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>>8347166
>misrepresentation of my post, pointing to a lack of understanding of my post
>"this wrong, me smart"
the irony, mmmm
it's delicious
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so it's okay for failed trannies to post here right?
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>>8347523
Here come dat boi
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Should femboys be doing progestogens?
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>>8348191
idk
this doc talks about rubbing progesterone gel on your face once a week and seeing positive results
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5GqH5rA-mckc1I2Zlh0X2VZX2s/view
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>>8348191
>>8348202
Won't that just cause massive tits.
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>>8347523
Literally every femboi by definition js a failed tranny.
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>>8346924
>(I'm part of mensa)
lmao
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>>8348211
Yes, massive tits on your face.
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>>8348198
>scroll til surgeries
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>>8347263
>implying that it dont be like it is but it do

then inform me

what does intelligence quotient mean and what does intelligent mean
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>>8348244
ahhhhhhhh boob eyes. Seriously tho as someone who took progesterone it increases bewbage.
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>>8348406
>intelligence quotient mean
100 ;)
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>>8348423
does progesterone makes bewbs rounder?
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>>8348231
um, no. I like my dick and gyno is gross.
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>>8348693
ayyyyyyy lmao
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>>8348695
Anecdotally people say it does I didn't notice any change besides they make them bigger and that's something I definitely don't want.
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>>8347136
I believe that even if you take a fuckhuge mega overdose of Bica there's actually no problem, you'll just waste it

It happened to some dude due to a clerical error for his prostate cancer treatment

Basically, assuming you're not allergic/etc, you can take Bica forever and be OK
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>>8340033
Tfw not femmy enough to get hatecrimed
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>>8352894
Remember to check your blood pressure before/after starting. Bica can cause high blood pressure.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msC51li0cCg

>more feminine facial structure in men is indicative of more intelligence

proof that femboys are truly the next stage of evolution

i know some HRT causes 'brainfog' but others (like raloxifene) have been shown to improve cognitive ability

so what about you femgen, have you noticed any boiboob powered intelligence boost?
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Not sure if this goes here or in one of the mtf gens but I'll start here since I'm more femboy right now
Could somebody help me with my diet? Is there some kind of /femgen/ approved diet plan that helps you stay slick and slim with a flat feminine stomach? I've recently gained about 6 pounds and all of it seems to have gone to my stomach, so now it's all pudgy and I'm pretty pissed about it. I'm 126lbs right now and want to get back down a few. I think it's because of eating a lot of carbs over the past 2-3 months that I introduced into my diet but now I don't know what to do.
Also, is it just a meme that some food has more T in it than others?
w-what do I eat that'll make me cute and fem and a girl? (that's also gluten free)
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>>8353464
just count your calories anon, altering your diet wont doo much
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>>8353464
A lil chub to be squishy is femmy too.
Spearmint tea is supposed to get a more female hormone household
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>>8353132
Raloxifene improves cognition in cases of (essentially) no sex hormones and patients with schizophrenia on antipsychotics, I am unaware of any research stating that raloxifene improves cognition in general.
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>>8353464
>is it just a meme that some food has more T in it than others?
yes

you can lower T production by severely restricting fat intake but its like taking the oil out of a car to make it more fuel efficient... technically you will get slightly better gas mileage but eventually your engine will seize and you are fucked

eat in a 10 hour window (ie only eat between 11 am and 7pm), dont eat any sugar (FDA recc. limit is 20g per day, eat less than that), watch calories/carbs, eat protein + fat with your carbs
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is harry styles a femboy
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>>8355172
People need to stop treating studies that find these loose connections as if they're scripture.
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>>8352894
Okay here's hoping my doctors right an I'm not allergic kinda shocked he's letting me continue using my body as a science experiment. Should I add raloxifine since taking progesterone for my libido gave me the boiboobs you've all seen.
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>>8357132
I have no idea who this person is, but he's pretty cute.
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Sorry for not posting, I have been sick the pass through days. Also:
>tfw you know you will never deep throat someone because you cannot even swallow a pill without using a banana to help.
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>>8307445
>http://discord.gg/faBYaap
I'd love to join but I hate sharing my picture and potentially revealing myself with strangers.
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>>8361557
We're all fwends
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>tfw i wont be able to get a femboy bf for another two+ years
>no cuddles or eskimo kisses or going for long hikes thru the woods
>no playing vidya together & making jabs at eachother when the other fails or fucks up on accident
>no playing with my pet ducks together
>tfw no femboy bf

is this how i die
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>>8361663
>being so desperate to fulfill one specific fetish that it literally aches
not trying to be mean, honest, but what's it like? what has led you to this spot in life?
is it the extreme romanticization of femboys on the internet (believe it or not, but femboys are people and have faults to them like everyone else)? is it an obsession with fulfilling a fantasy that you have? or maybe you're just looking for someone who's eager for a quikk dicc so you can trick them and put them in a snuff film?
i'm genuinely curious as to the motivation behind this feeling
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>>8361710
>none of the above

no i just have a huge fetish for long hair & i just want a bf. also im finally moving forward with my life again & plan to return to college in a few months so it's not like i don't have other things planned - i also don't feel confident enough in my appearance right now to ask anyone out for another year or so i'm just lonely & want to get into a relationship again lol, but i want to put effort forward first with myself & self - improvement before i do that. i just so happen to only really be attracted to long haired men - femboys particularly, but i also really like masculine long haired men, too. it doesn't really matter to me. i just like hair alot, i guess.

it's not a fantasy, per say, i just have a preference for what i like. simple as that.
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>>8361758
you know who usually has the longest hair? [spoiler]women~[/spoiler]
but yeah, this is interesting...i've not heard of this fetish before; how do you think you got it? and by long hair, do you mean long hair by male standards (like, 6" is pretty long for a guy but short for a girl)? and what do you find appealing about relationships? just wondering
also good on you for moving forward with life!
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>>8361810
oh no i forgot my anime girl image! now my post is worthless! WORTHLESS!
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The World Anti-Doping Agency has raloxifene on their prohibited at all times list.
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>>8361810
i'm not attracted to women, though. i tried dating a girl about a year & a half ago & i felt zero (0) attraction to her. it's not the same at all. i've literally tried to force myself to try & be attracted to women at different points in my life & it always never felt as natural as it does for me to like guys. i feel really good about being gay & being able to be open about that with friends & whatnot - it's not forced, it doesn't feel like i have to call on some extra force of nature or embark on some fairytale quest to figure out my orientation, or some bullshit like that. i probably always knew i was only attracted to men, but kept telling myself that liking girls was the "norm" so i clung to that last shred of false bisexuality like nobody's business. anyway, i like it when the guys i'm attracted to are feminine, sure, but masculine enough that i can still tell they're men.

uh ... as for how i got it - i also have another fetish that has to do with grooming - people petting my hair, too, grooming it, mostly, or me doing the same for another person - it's just relaxing. i've had both fetishes since early middle school, maybe even earlier. it's definitely been for a while - i would be a sophomore in college right now if i hadn't left for medical leave after my first semester.

>continued next post.
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>>8361860
relationships ... lmao, okay.

>pretty much i just want someone to talk to, cuddle, play vidya with, have kinky cock jousting with, you know, cute, dumb stuff.

im really only interested in ltr & i sometimes feel romance repulsed if not only because i get so down on myself thinking abt how long it's going to take for me to finally actually get out there & be confident enough to talk to guys i find attractive again. my last relationship was 3 years long & was in highschool & i havent really bothered much with relationships ever since because ive been focusing on myself.

i guess my general consensus towards relationships is that im so fucking full of love for someone but have noone to give it to as of right now so ... im a little bitter about that. but not overtly so - i try not to think about it too much, but it can become overwhelming sometimes because i focus so much on myself & begin to feel selfish for doing so.

idk man, im just in a very weird spot in my life right now. but i'm at peace with it, i guess. somewhat, atleast.
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This is my first time on this specific board I'm so confused about my gender, can somebody just tell me what the fuck this means?

>born female
>all life way more comfortable in male clothes
>recent years shown like to occassionally wear cute girly clothes but always prefer guy clothes for comfort
>have short hair most of my life try to grow hair out but always went back to it being short feel more comfy with short hair
>sometimes want to look like cute grill with long hair and dress
>eventually go back to dressing like a dude
>would love to get chest flattened

I thought all up through hugh school that I was FtM but;

>realize do NOT want a dick
>don't want to go through all the hormonal changes (bro is currently going through all this tough shit that seems like a lot of work)
>sounds like a burden more so than ladyparts

I can't seem to pick a side but definitely lean more towards wanting a flat chested male looking body, with no dick, and occasionally wearing cute girly stuff

Thinking about it always gives me a headache, I always assumed because I was asexual it played with my head about not being able to pick a gender to like, so it was weird picking a gender to be

These feelings have been happeneing for longer than a decade the first couple years I thought this was a weird teen phase that would eventually pass and I'd just stick to being a cute grill as an adult but being and dressing like a boy is max comfy, however I don't want to go through any hornonal changes, just want a completely flat chest

I've always just called myself androgynous when meeting new people I'm comfortable telling, but wondered if maybe that's not the right word I'm using
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>>8361917
Congratulations, you're a tomboy.
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>>8361917
you could always go thru with top surgery + identify as genderfluid if that's what makes you comfortable. imho i think it's much easier to flop between male & female clothes while being dfab, especially if you plan to not go on hormones. low dose t is always an option though, if you decide somewhere down the line you'd like to do that. ftms also have the advantage of not having to worry so much about WHEN they transition, too, atleast from what i've gathered.

you could always just say you're masculine leaning genderfluid, too, if you prefer that. have you tried out masculine pronouns with your close friends to see how that makes you feel?
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>>8361924
If only. It'd save me $7000

>>8361931
Some of my friends refer to me as He and others as They- he definitely makes me feel more comfortable, but when I wear a dress it feels off when friends say 'he' since it gets questioning looks from people we don't know, and I don't want to go explaining a confusing unecessary conversation. It's also frustrating when some people say "pick a side!" I really wish I could just pick being a boy, but then people expect me to have a dickeven though I don't want one
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>>8361848
you know, i never thought about femboys trying to get into the olympics (or any major sport, really)
i think it makes sense though, considering hormones are important to your physical abilities
today i learned things, thanks anon

>>8361860
well i'm certainly glad you've come to accept yourself for who you are! i know a lot of people so far in the closet that it would take an excavation team to get them out
so grooming and long hair? how uncommon... what's your stance on headpats, if you have one?
>left for medical leave
oh gosh, i hope it wasn't too bad...or at least not so lasting
>>8361870
well, for being in such a weird spot, you seem to be pretty mature about it c:
do you have any creative outlets to help release stress? and using this time to better yourself doesn't seem so selfish to me, considering it will help build a richer relationships when you feel comfortable starting them, no?

>>8361917
sounds an awful lot like a tomboy story
boy clothes are super comfy desu, especially oversized sweatshirts
and they do have breast reduction surgery, though you may want to look more into yourself/seek guidance from some professional before doing anything permanent/expensive
androgynous just means having physical characteristics of both sexes, which you seem to exhibit
"boyish" could also work, if that's the look you're going for
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>>8361758
where do you live?
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>>8361848
hahaha what? is it because steroid users use it to prevent gyno? are they trying to make ultra-masc guys grow tits?
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>>8361971
oh yeah senpai, i have a shitton of kinks lol. here's my list in case you're interested. also, headpats are okay, i dont mind them at all, but they dont make me go crazy or anything. im into petplay though so for sure id be up for a potential partner incorporating that into a session if they feel like it.

ah, thanks. i try to keep my head up when it comes to the bad shit that ive gone thru - i try to shrug it off but yeah, it does sorta get to me from time to time. try to take it with a grain of salt, i guess.

ofcourse to the creative outlets - i was actually a creative writing major before i went on leave. i have a comic that i hope to release by 2K20; the plots done aswell as the majority of the main character designs & all i really have to do is get good enough at art to start drawing for it. writing is one of my favorite things to do, but i dont think i would try majoring in creative writing again, sadly. i only really get inspiration for my own works & i dont believe i could ever go into a field that requires me to sell my talent to a company that forces me to do something that would be nigh overly stressful to do everyday of my life. i just cant do it what with how much effort it takes to churn out high quality content nowadays.

also hell yeah, i really hope that in a few years time everything will just fall into place eventually. i'm getting there - it just takes time & patience, ha.
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>>8361996
near nyc. why do you ask?
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>>8362017
>tfw nobody lives by me
i want a bf to cuddle and go on hikes and play games with
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>>8361848
I wonder if they would grant a therapeutic use exemption for gender dysphoria for raloxifene.
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>>8361810
I've got longer hair than any woman in the room who isn't literally Rapunzel.

It's as much of a bitch to take care of as you can imagine.

>>8362017
>>8362022
>tfw nobody lives by me but bearded hipster filth
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>>8362022
id do ldr if i didnt know how much they sucked already lol

also >being wealthy has its perks & id probably end up visiting someone if i, hypothetically speaking, was in an ldr, but alas, i probably never will be hehe xd
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>>8362038
i dont have a beard but i have justin bieber hair (im growing it out from an undercut because im not sure if i want to cut it again or not) so pick your poison on that one
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do femboys like other femboys?
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>>8362066
maybe? nobody knows for sure. I find the idea interesting
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>>8362066
tfw no femboy to go out in girlmode together with
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>>8362081
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>>8362005
agonophilia? ngl i had to look this up
and goggles? that's just so...specific; what's the appeal of goggles specifically? how are they different from glasses or monocles in a fetishistic sense?
>breeding
y-you know that boys and other boys can't exactly...
>lycanthropy
like...werewolves?

c'est la vie, as they say~ and coping seems to get easier with age, i find

oh neat! i love comics! though i don't know any writers so i don't know much about that subject...come to think of it, i _only_ know artists...how odd
is there a secondary subject you're interested in? maybe as a fallback plan or new area of exploration for the future?
and if you're good enough at what you do, people will pay for you to do what you like to do (usually via patreon), but that's a pretty rare thing all things considered...still, there are other options like that out there if you look long enough

as long as you keep at it, it should be fine ^^

>>8362038
i have a hard time caring for my few inch hair already!
i think i would worry about my hair getting caught in stuff if i had, like, ankle-length hair...though i work with machines and stuff so maybe i'm not the typical case here
and how's portland, oregon this time of year? :3c

>>8362066
sometimes, though i haven't seen any lasting relationship sprout from it yet
that's not to say that it can't happen though
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>>8362095
"bearded hipster filth" makes it too obvious where I live by default.

Yeah, I can't really manage a job with industry. As is I have a fun time keeping hair out of food/the toilet/bike chains/other people/anything that closes shut.

Still worth it though.
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>>8362098
i was just guessing with a lil' jab, honestly
i'm a simple anon; i see "hipster", i think "portland, oregon"
>bike chains
pls, getting anything caught in a bike chain makes me cringe automatically
what makes it worth it? is having +5 to fabulousness really worth the time and effort?
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>>8362095
>goggles are just cute n i like the idea of emotive ones tbqh
>breeding - one of my biggest all time fetishes that i can trace back to about maybe ... early middle school around the time i started getting rlly into long haired boys would be the idea of myself as a herm? so put two & two together. im also a top leaning verse.
>lycanthropy - yeah, werewolves, but a little more alien than that. i base alot of my fantasies & play scenarios off of my persona, so when i finally do get with someone id probably end up disclosing that im big on roleplay

>mmm ... in terms of secondary stuff ...

vidya, animal caretaking, weeb shit, horror stuff, cooking.

i have issues with identity due to bpd + ocd though so it's very difficult for me to get into new interests because i organize everything about myself 24/7 as to not have to worry so much about the idea of losing parts of myself ... if that makes sense. it's to keep me stable, really - so alot of my interests like my comic, league of legends, etc, etc, have been interests for 6 years+ & onwards.

what about you?
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>>8362113
I'm a very tactile person, and physical sensation matters a lot to me. Hair has always been one of my most sensitive areas.

The truth is I just like the feeling. Driving yourself to the top of a hill to feel the wind rushing through every lock, or the touch of a setting sun as it casts its final rays upon your vast mane. No ASMR video can capture that feeling.

I don't braid or dye it. It's just my hair, and I love having as much as I can.
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>>8362126
emotive goggles...hmm... how do you feel about steampunk stuff?
man, everything you've said so far is just...not something i would expect! it's kinda nice, really
oh, also, what do you think the appeal of roleplay is? at least in your experience

seems like a nice mix of interests, though i don't often hear of animal caretaking or horror stuff
losing parts of yourself...that sounds familiar, but i don't think i exactly get it atm
i do understand the...fragility of the self though, unfortunately
what sorts of things do you organize about yourself? unless it makes you uncomfortable to talk about, i mean
and what sorts of roles do you like in league? i only recently got into it, but i think it's neat so far...though everyone i know who plays doesn't seem to like it too much

oh, i'm not too interesting, sorry
and if i were, i wouldn't really know what to share

>>8362134
is it like a sexual thing, or is it like a...non-sexual-good-feeling thing?
i was trying to think of a good word for that feeling but i don't think i know a word that would fit

this is neat though; i don't know of many people who care much for touch, or think about it in this way

head hair, yeah? or do you mean all body hair?
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>>8362186
Head hair, I shave or wax every other inch of my body.

It's not a kink. Just something that "feels right", for lack of a better term. Very tranquil. I've always had an obsession with touch... for better or worse. Certain sensations can be cataloged just like certain emotions, if you're paying attention while you experience them.

Bah, just my autismus.
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>>8361917
If you want a flat chest, you can get a mastectomy, but remember that there's no going back. Do you have a binder? Maybe try wearing one for a few weeks and see how it makes you feel.
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>>8362193
ah, gotcha

does this mean that you care about your fingers more than others would? or is it more of a whole-body sort of feeling sensation?
would you not be cataloguing these sensations because of their connection to your emotions?
brains are weird, but i like seeing how people make sense of them in their own heads and how different and wild it can get
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>>8361710
>is it the extreme romanticization of femboys on the internet
yes
the whole world around me seems so cruel and cold and judging, men are ugly, women are stacys, nobody gives a fuck about you

femboys have become the idealized antidote to all of that in my mind, just a cute bundle of happiness and love

like golden retrievers... that you can have sex with
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>>8362000
they pretty much just ban anything and everything
>>8362038
>tfw bearded hipster filth
rip
>>8362193
chimps primary way of socializing is grooming each other, i wouldnt be surprised if humans had a very similar affinity for that, probably releases opioids and oxytocin (the 'love chemical')
>>8362186
i think im falling in love with u through your posting , u have a qt personality
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>>8362640
>i wouldnt be surprised if humans had a very similar affinity for that
They do. Ever had someone wash your hair for you? Feels great.
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>>8362186
what do you mean by "not expected"? like rar eto hear, or?

roleplaying for me is escaping reality & being able to assume a role that i otherwise wouldn't be able to in the right mindset. it's supposed to be fun, alleviating stress, about the possibility of going about a scenario in which draws out my own fantasies with someone close to me - i like mild bdsm, too, so i'd be more than happy to incorporate bondage alongside some other kinkier shit for whatever my partners down to do. i dont think i have alot of hard turnoffs in terms of stuff i wouldnt atleast try. whats the point of living if you're not going to experience it all, eh?

yeah, i try to keep things balanced - simple, yet complex simultaneously. ive liked horror stuff for quite a while aswell - monsters, the occult, werewolves, you name it. it's all very interesting to me, but funnily enough ive gotten scared shitless by certain creepypastas lol. i still have nightmares about slenderman, actually. smile dog fucked me up for a while too.

uh, in terms of organization - pretty much everything. mainly my identity though. sometimes i wake up & can't for the life of me look at the people around me, my family, friends, because i don't feel like i belong here from time to time - like i don't exist. like i never had an identity to begin with. that's why im so hung up on organization & being mindful of myself & what goes into making me - well - me. interests, appearance, the way i walk, talk, go about my day - i break it down until it's built up again, block by block, until i have a routine set infront of me that isn't certain to crumble under pressure. im constantly on the lookout for underlying motives, or a slipup by myself, or anything short of perfection. it's really strange, & extremely stressful, sometimes, but i've been this way for so long that it's like second nature at this point.
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>>8362113
>what makes it worth it? is having +5 to fabulousness really worth the time and effort?

Yes it fucking is.
It swishes, you can flick it, and it flies behind you in the wind when you're moving at speed. On top of that, cared-for hair is shiny and glossy and soft and smells nice. Total charm point.
Yes, it gets caught in stuff. Yes, it needs untangling and washing and conditioning and combing. Yes, it goes in your face if the wind is wrong, or fluffs up if too much air gets into it. Yes, it takes literal hours to dry, and can freeze solid in winter.
But it's worth it

.>>8362038
>bearded hipster filth
I hate hipsters. I eat them for fun.
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>>8363320
date me desu

>tfw you hate hipsters

if i wear hipster glasses does that count
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>>8362610
i could see this being the case, though i'm not sure how common it may be
i do worry about what happens when the idealized image doesn't live up to the reality though... man, the future looks like it's setting up to be a really intriguing place

>>8362640
aww, well thank you, but i'm honestly nothing special

>>8363234
things i rarely/never hear seem to be common so far, which i find to be really interesting
i've not really met a person like you yet, so this has been fun c:

ooooooh, i see! i got the escaping reality part, but i didn't even think of the living out fantasies part...which seems silly in hindsight, but you live and learn i suppose
and so rp is a more personal thing to you, rather than something you would do with a group of people in d&d or something like that? i haven't heard much about non-group rping before
and yeah! trying out new things is great for broadening your horizons, and figuring out what you do and don't like in a general sense

what do you like most about horror stuff if not for the scaring yourself aspect of it? personally i'm too big of a scaredy-cat to get much into horror things ^^; though i really like the art styles and concepts presented in what little of horror i have seen

oh gosh... that does sound stressful, though at least it's made you think about yourself and your actions, no? that's something some people never really learn to do, and i feel they miss out because of it; critical, honest self-reflection can be a powerful tool in building a person and all...but that's just how i see it
i do have some questions on this, but i'm not really sure how to word them atm
have you seen anyone about this ocd stuff?

>>8363320
well, as long as you're happy with the trade-off~
if you didn't get such strong sensations from touch, do you think you would keep your hair long?
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>>8363329
I already have a sort-of boyfriend, but I might let you play with my hair. UK?
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>>8363864
>if you didn't get such strong sensations from touch, do you think you would keep your hair long?
Yeah, but that's because I'm a metalhead. Long hair is a way of signalling that.
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>>8363320
wanna brush each other's hair out anon ;_;
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>>8363972
Depends on how okay you are with ringlets. They're not really negotiable, since they just sort of happen.
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Someone teach me how to take care of my hair
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>>8364239
>tfw long but not curly hair

can I braid your princess curls anon :3
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>>8364279
Just wash is like a normal person. Plus coconut oil for some extra shine.
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>>8364310
Of course you can. Having my hair played with is awesome.
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>>8364279
It's not that difficult.

>avoid excessive shampoo use
>brush every single day
>blow dryers are of the devil, use a towel instead
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>>8364387
>>8364427
What if my hair is curly
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>>8364432
Then only comb it out when wet and use products meant to keep your hair moist, but make sure those products don't weigh your hair down because you probably want the volume. I use Aussie mega moist shampoo and conditioner. I have tit-length, loose curls.
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>>8364635
I don't really want the volume right now, it's still barely shoulder length and it looks poofy and ridiculous at this length
I'll have to look into better products for it
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>>8364650
My hair used to look poofy and ridiculous when I combed it out all the time, but whatever floats your boat. I really love the volume so Idk what to recommend other than moistening products. Good luck anon!
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>>8364650
Herbal Essences curls and waves. Keeps mine under control, and keeps the curls tight and bouncy.
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>>8363962
no im in nj, right outside nyc sadly.
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>>8363864
>aww, well thank you, but i'm honestly nothing special
You're failing to prove that because humbleness is absolutely adorable.
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>>8364779
Eyyyy
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What are some /femgen/ haircuts?
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>>8364418
where are you from?
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I want a femboy, where do i find femboys?
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>>8366361
Seconding this.
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>>8363969
oh, nice! are you into the culture and the music, or just one of the two?

>>8365730
anon pls
flattery sounds too much like battery for me to accept; i might get zapped!

>>8366361
it really depends on your face and style, but pixie cuts seem to be popular and encouraged
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>talking to a cute guy who ghosts after you have to explain that you're a guy
y'all have felt this pain before right
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>>8366366
South-east england, near London.

>>8366435
>oh, nice! are you into the culture and the music, or just one of the two?
Culture, music, and fashion. Heavy metal is fucking awesome and I love it.

>>8366884
Dang. I'd love to meet a femboy that I can almost mistake for female. What an idiot that guy was.
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>>8366884
irl? if so, i'm impressed!..but i am sorry that you have felt these feels
this used to happen to me a lot online, though i'm not really one to come onto people often so i personally find it more...curious than harmful

>>8366992
oooo, even better! what do you like about heavy metal in particular, as opposed to the other metal flavors? and do you go to concerts and things or are you more of an at-home fan?
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>>8367072
>what do you like about heavy metal in particular, as opposed to the other metal flavours?
I tend to prefer power metal, folk metal, and industrial metal.
> Power metal
Wankery, soaring/shredding guitar solos, ambitious vocals, and vikings are awesome.
> Folk metal
Folk music with metal added. Or it's bands like Alestorm yarrr-ing their way through tales about pirates and so forth.
> Industrial metal
Heavy, grinding, aggressive stuff, often with sci-fi/cyberpunk themes Fucking love it.

>and do you go to concerts and things or are you more of an at-home fan?
I go to gigs during the season for smaller bands in the winter, and I do festivals. Download the last two years, Bloodstock this year because Download have forgotten what metal is this year, and gotten a bunch of dinosaur rock bands to headline, supported by metalcore and nu-metal.
A few bands I like shoved into crappy daytime slots doesn't compensate.
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>>8367096
>adding that cheeky 'u' to my americanized 'flavor' text
i see your game, mister add-extra-vowels-to-perfectly-good-words :3
but, anyway, i didn't know that folk metal was considered heavy metal...this is new information!
what do you think of thrash metal and melodic metal, then? also, sorry if i get my terms wrong; i'm a lil' rusty at metal naming conventions and genre groupings

oh wow, so you go to things pretty often, then! and i'm glad you have more than one choice of festivals to go to, especially if one of them is lame for a bit
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>>8367216
> Thrash
Meh. Not a huge fan of it, because it's either boring or long-winded and tedious.
> Melodic
Not sure what you mean by this. Amon Amarth are melodic death metal and I'm a huge fan of them, otherwise you've got Nightwish who are symphonic metal and I fucking love their old stuff.

> Festivals
Lineups vary. I think Download just spent the majority of their 'book awesome bands' budget on very un-metal things like drainage and roadways and more toilets and replacing all the topsoil that turned to mud and washed off-site last year.
And, frankly, they had Rammstein, Sabbath, and Iron Maiden headlining last year. Couldn't top that.
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>always falling for girls
>never feelings for guys ever
>mens bodies do not attract you sexually
>want to get fucked in the ass
>almost no sexual interest in girls anymore
>still dream about girls

what the fuck am I
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>>8367712
probably bisexual with a preference for men, but

>do you still have romantic attraction to girls?

im not a fan of the split attraction model myself but who knows if it stands for you or not, & if so, then id say

>heteromantic bisexual with a preference for men
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D I C C
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>>8364418
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>>8367712
WHAT HAVE IIII BEECOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMEEE
AAA GIIAANNTT FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG
AAAND EEEVEERYYYOOONE III KNOOOOOOOOW
WAAANTS TO DREEEESS IIIN TRAAP DRAAAAAAAAAAAG
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>>8366435
Any pictures of cute boys with pixie cuts google just gives me lesbians.
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That is to be expected. There aren't a lot of femboy models out there, certainly not as many as normie guys and girls, so expecting to see femboys coming up in a web search (powered by money, I may add) is fruitless. If you want cute haircut ideas on non-femmy guys, there are tons of resources online for that since there's much, much more demand for them. I don't know much about what normie guys do for fashion, other than backwards baseball caps and wifebeaters.
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